Putin sacks Shoigu after military mistakes - Russia experts react
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- Опубликовано: 28 май 2024
- Putin’s sacking of Russian defence minister Sergei Shoigu a reflection of his military mistakes in Ukraine, explain Mark Galeotti, Natia Seskuria and more…
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He's been promoted
👍👍. You're paying attention! 👃✌️🇨🇦
Thats not true. It looks like as if he is being promoted, but in reality its just a seat far behind. As the russian military defense minister he had direct access to all the financial ressources that went through the military, which by the way is a very corrupt section within the russian regime.
Shoigu was moved to the seat of security council. In that seat of security council shoigu only drafts and pushes policy proposals around. Shoigu lost the direct control of the military with all the financials involved.
@@RuLeZ1988 And this vast expert knowledge of Russia you have comes from your years living and studying with the Russian people? or does it comes from western media and politicians?
@@throughput6674 Konstantin at Inside Russia will explain it to your kind.
Ice cream salesman would be a promotion 🍨
In Russia, the buck stops ...... somewhere else.
Ironic how Shoigu takes the blame when Putin has been making all the military decisions.
Shoigu wasn't just sidelined, he was cast down to the very bottom. If you knew how Russian society worked, the MoD IS as high in power structure you can go at the top, besides the prestigious ex-KGB (FSB) and the home internal spy division - which is where the real transfer of power has shifted to. Shoigu's 2nd in command not just in any jail, but a specialized KGB prison far away from any potential military access.
In a country where coup's are not far fetched, and where our ideas of budget accountability don't exist at all, where great power is given to the heads of these depts (far more than a western minister), it's no wonder greed and temptation take root amongst the greedy. Ivanov, Shoigu's 2nd in command of the MoD, was blatant in his theft, literal millions upon millions were pilfered purchasing big ticket items his salary as a deputy minister could never achieve.
In my opinion, it's to prevent Shoigu from further theft, keeping him within (coup) power structure reach (he did command the the most powerful structure in the country and many will obey as conditioned), and at last to correlate the allegations against him and Ivanov as with today's senior LG's arrest on the same type of theft, I have no doubt Shoigu was also watched as the Ivanov investigation took root a year+ ago.
There will be a shift in that balance of power now - as the spy agencies take up the slack with appointments showing Putin taking old friends, ex-intelligence officers within his inner circle, and perhaps a more controlled economy and control (Soviet like) exerted over the populace is going to take place. If anything, this is worse for Ukraine as it cleans up the deadwood in Moscow and sharper focus brought to bear.
Shoigu got a new job with a window seat. Ha ha 😂 🤣 😆 😄 😅 😀
Mabe he'll trip and fall out of the window. ....
@@colinskelding8959 Times Radio = Deep State "Mouthpiece"
The head of the security council is only given to the most trusted people. 😂
Putin: "Sergei, care for some tea I prepared?"
Shoigu: "I'll pass, Vlade."
@@rouz0 With a big window in the office? Ha ha 😂 🤣 😆 😄 😅 😀
Pretty sure Shoigus going to fall to his death. Out of a Basement window.
The Western Media sure does a good job of indoctrinating a large proportion of it's masses.----
Nope. He was promoted. That's how bureaucracies work.
Just look at David Patreaus.
Should promote Shoigu to Marshal of the Russian Federation to keep the joke going.
They should give him a new fake uniform. Something like the one designed by Captain K in Jojo Rabbit would be perfect.
@@AndyM_323YYY A Superman kit?
@@AndyM_323YYY Or Charles 3 Military Costume.
Andrew & William ALSO!
The Elites should fight this War, WHY?
They started War & They Profit from It.
Soigu ESTE MARESAL AL FEDERATIEI RUSE!!!
Times radio stop telling lies - The Ukrainians are losing and our Western governments should be trying to bring peace instead of sending more and more ( some estimate 600,000 !!! )young Ukrainian men to their deaths in the meat grinder by supplying endless weapons and money to a corrupt Ukrainian Government., not to mention the Russian young men who have died. We need peace in that region not Brits, Yanks etc involving themselves in this tragedy other than trying to encourage an end to this madness. Who is benefiting apart from the parasite arms dealers and Globalist psychopaths?
shoigu,has really been promoted,not sacked at all,
Yeah only RUclips 'experts' in the comments seem to tell us this which seems slightly suspect to me.
@@davidk7262
For his position it is a promotion.
Congrats 🎉🎊 Half a million is here ... and counting. Thank you Jake, thank you everyone💙💛
... would appear that Putin has actually promoted Shoigu to a role as Head of the National Security Council and have responsibilities for the military-industrial complex .. which is the second most important position in the Russian government ..
Promoted to a looming fall from a window while smoking.
Totalitarian regimes don’t promote failure. They reassign them while going after their underlings to gut their power base to eliminate threats by those who back the removed high ranking official.
Erm... no. Going from heading the war and having responsibility for spending 25% of Russian GDP - to what is effectively sitting round a table with no budget and no power listening to those who do have budget and power...
The Russian National Security Council is where Putin's loyal but inept underlings are sent out to pasture.
It must be nice, and I mean this is a positive light, to be a Times Radio studio host where a hot delicious cup of coffee can relatively be easily found and the subject matter of interviews is so important for the purpose of bringing news to the world. Thank you for your work and the platform you use. Thank you to the guest speakers on the new about Ukraine.
I remember when the msm was describing the last secretary of national security was the second most important/powerful person in Russia, now Shoigou has been appointed it’s a demotion 🤷♂️
It’s all well and good throwing billions in weapons to Ukraine but they haven’t got the manpower to use it. No doubt it will disappear with no audit trail.
Ukraine used up the $110 billion in munitions we sent, but they can't use up the next $60 billion in munitions.
Genius, pure genius.
They dont actually get that much mind. A lot of it is poured into things that are hard to quantify. Also, they have e.g10 billion for say 100 assets. These assets will be obsolete equipment. But the 10 billion is for replacing the obsolete equipment with new items. So the obsolete kit sent to ukraine has a value of say 1 billion and the remaing 9 gets spread out under the guise of buying 100 new assets for NATO. Another layer is added to this when it goes through say poland. The US gets the funding, poland hands over its obsolete kit and some polish officials get some big favours/holidays etc. Its really nefarious/bent stuff.
Good to see some people are actually looking deeper than mainstream Media.. Do.
All there good for is spreading propaganda.. And Google.. Ect now.
It's all about controlling what the people see and hear..
Have you not noticed how everywhere is going mad-on censorship... Big Media done but there's other things to bring up to date. Look into who funded Google first look right back into there start.. No guessing what controls them.. Lol.
Military failures don't matter to Putin, loyalty and managing rivals is what matters.
well if we are going to trust you we need to know some things first.
Was that food you brought at the store grown with Russian ammonium nitrate?
Was it transported on a ship or truck using fuel from Ural oil?
Was the electricity you consume generated with Russian refined uranium?
He does seem to elevate failure to an art form.
Dummies. 😂
Promotion: to give someone a higher position or rank; 'Sergei Shoigu was promoted to general secretary'
He was promoted to wingless airman.
@onetrickponey
And you shouldn't be allowed to vote you oblivious adolescent.
Many of your videos seem to suggest that Putin is failing, he's looking for a way out, etc. But this video indicates that Putin is gearing up to continue the war for years. It's confusing. It feels very hard to get a clear picture of the status of the war in Ukraine.
Shoigu gets a party with Novichok cake.
Rest in peace Shoigu your incompetence is only exceeded by your corruption and both will be greatly missed. SLAVA UKRAINI from the United States
😂😂😂➡️➡️➡️👋🏻👋🏻👋🏻🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🔥🔥🔥💀💀💀
How much greater is the corruption and incompetence in Ukraine as opposed to Russia?
Haha your so delusional, this war ending us global hegemony and going to collapse nato and push Europe into russia’s economic influence
Slava Russia
Ucraine lost. Putin won. Thats the reality .
The rumors are irrelevant. As Zelensky correctly pointed out: Poo-tin does not honor agreements. Just ask Prigoshyn.
The Minsk agreements 2014? The deal negotiated in Ankara in 2022? The Kiev regime reneged on both of these under the diktats of their foreign sponsors. Now they're paying the price (or rather Ukraine's population is, with the notable exception of the Zelensky billionaire clique). Russia has no choice but to destroy the Ukraine's military.
If memory serves me correctly Zelensky ran for President of Ukraine campaigning on........Peace with Russia and the breakaway Oblasts.
But you already knew that didn't you Mr. Self Awareness.
@@patricklosi3358 rashist propaganda
The worst Tsar in history was better than putin or any of the other communists.
russia has a very poor track record in wars.what happens is the government falls because of war .just like in 1990.
what wars they lost in the last century
lol. is this a result of your western education?
@@throughput6674 What is the only democratic country that GB has declared war against and why great educated westerner or easterner?
They did get 'whooped' up on in the first Chechyan war in 94-96. Very simular to the quagmire they are in now. But of course, they didn't have the military genius Pooter back then either. LOL!!
@@philipmain5701 what? this isn't 20 questions buddy. jog on big L
Shoigu was promoted not sacked.
Push them out? Are you serious?
Gives him a promotion too. Wow he must have made soo many mistakes 🤦♀️
Shocked he didn’t say P Diddy
Expert...not propagandist. I trust these guys, don't you? ☠️🤡☠️
Yeah they mentioned that within 2 minutes. Never heard of a news organisation using colourful language to drive engagement? Do better Orc lover 😘
So ironic that Russians don't understand what "embellishing" is given you guys have habitually done it for 80 years
name one, I mean a real one, not one made up by western media
So who's going to sack Putin ? 🙄😷
Soon or later Russian they give up like Afghanistan don't forget Russian they have more soldiers that time or Russian callups
Joseph you are not Stalin to make such predictions about Russia. And Churchill also will curse you. They've been Allies by the way, at least for a time.
... thought it was the US that fled from Afghanistan in 2021 .. leaving $85_Billion worth of military equipment ..
Ofc, demographics bad, additional attritional loss, soviet stache used up over 50%, economy inflating through artificial non economic spendings, dutch disease due to export high, now loss for the first time in decades. Russia is on multiple bypasses and the long er war effort gets promoted, the harder they will crash. 3 years tops.
puttin's survival depends on whether russia wins or loses
so Russia will never surrender
the only way to get russia to give up is if ukraine succeeds in winning on the battlefield and for that to happen the west and the usa must have a strategy, which they don't have
so if ukraine is going to win then the west and the usa have to do what they say in nice words but in practice don't do and i'm afraid they won't do it
@@6XCcustom If,if,if so many if's.
Shoigu was seen sitting next to Putin in China so it doesn't look like a demotion of any sort.
You're wrong, Putin did not sack Shoigu but he in fact promoted Shoigu . Putin needs a bolder, more vicious and tenacious head of defence.
No idea
Probably
Macrons Initiative is necessary to send troops to Ukraine ❤❤❤❤❤
He should send you to the frontline then 😂
@@DrojanaleTorvic 😀😂🤣😆
Shoigu is now head of paper clips and staples.
Mistakes. That's putting it kindly. Also, the "mistakes" are ongoing.
... the Russians will 'mistakenly' walk into Kiev in the near future ..
Yes yes they are retreating forwards the idiots. Whilst the Ukrainians bravely advance backwards.
Compared to who/whom?
This man was trying to retire before the war started but stayed on because putin asked him
Sir-gay is sacked
Corruption and incompetence are the reasons but Shoighu is 68 years old and should be retired anyway.
He hasn't sacked Shoigu!! He's promoted him!! Bloody mainstream propaganda.
No he sacked him he gave him a job with no power he can't fire or hire anyone or make any decisions, he is a secretary. That's a demotion in everything but name.
Never seen a guy get printed from being in charge of a million man military to being paper pusher in Moscow with no authority, Log off 🤡.
Yeah he really hasn't.
LOL. Dictator calls removal from office and targeting underlings of the ex official a “promotion”.
And Wagner plane suffered a catastrophic failure unrelated to a being blown out of the sky.😂
@@williamnunley3493 go educate your self buddy!
When you bring in the money people. Your looking at the cost of the War. And what is the Next move. No money no return. They will dig in and play the wait game.
Should never had started a war!, In which you cannot win😂
It's the dude from Pixars UP! 1:07
Defense minister is for times of peace, it doesn’t work in offensive operations, I guess that’s what Putin realized lol
In order to balance the Russian economy, an economist is installed. A good one who knows his job and the Russian military as being deputy prime minister. Shoigu has stabilised and reformed the Russian defence forces. He has been promted. This is a strategic move for the progression of the Russian economy and state.
Shoigu has been promoted to the Russian Security Council and his main responsibility is to oversee the entire Russian MIC.
thats alotta "uhm"
Shoigu was promoted guys, now besides the security council he controls also the defense industrial complex being one of the most powerful persons in Russia.
Right, Ivan. Putin is shuffling the dorkoviki.
@@jim2376 Учи русский, придурок, скоро пригодится.
Watch Inside Russia by Konstantin. The "Head of the Security Council" isn't controlling anything that matters - neither money nor industry nor the authority to fire people.
This is a demotion in all but name, to a position where he's kept around as a scapegoat for the future but cannot do any further harm to other factions in the Russian government.
@@anonymouse8124 "This is a demotion in all but name" Yep. Posidaon might be a Russian troll.
... as you say ..
bs
He's been promoted..get more information before talking..lazy
Still pedalling the lies... he was promoted
Corruption is the norm there Putun needs someone to blame for the body count now he has someone to point his finger at its that simple.
I have a few questions:
When was the last war Britain or the United States won?
Why was Tommy Franks never fired? Or General Stanley MacChrystal or Ray Odierno or David Patreaus?
Why was David Patreaus promoted from CENTCOM to ISAF Command and finally to Director of Central Intelligence? He didn't "solve" or "achieve" any victory at any point in his career.
What is it like working in a Russian troll farm?
If Shoigu wasn't Tuvan, he would have been fired long ago. Putin needs him to show that Russian state power still extends a little to these distant Siberian regions.
This guy absolutely doesn't know what he's talking about
The losses and defeats must not exceed the maximum size of deniability... that, is an essential precondition, everyone in the Chain of Command must be able to lie about it.....
The Russians are coming, The Russians are coming 😮..😂 hope they don’t have dinghies 😂
Maybe this accountant can reduce the cost of the war for Russia 😁.
It is past time for the free people's of yalta to step up and demand their Ukrainian Citizenship.
it's the guy from up!
I think you need some new journalists. Shoigu has been promoted to Secretary of the Security Council of Russia, so he will be the new Defence Minister's Boss
Well he previously reported directly to Putin, so that sounds like a Russian 'promotion'. All well and good as long as his desk isn't next to a window.
@@oeokosko Now he has to sit with Putin every week in their weekly meeting 😂
Natia Seskuria is almost impossible to listen as she speaks in a monotone and drones on and on.
Tw0 Timmes strowling to prononce the name of the guy...
Secretary of Security Council is a very high position. Second in hierarchy, just after the President.
What the new defense minister has spoken to is minimizing casualties. His expertise is economy, but here economizing will be on the meat-grinder or at least give that impression. It could be a fake purpose just to cover Putin's a.
Much work for a 14 day war.
Anything coming from Times Radio regarding Russia must be taken with a huge bag of salt.
Why are you here then? Go back into RT's cave and hide yourself over there; do not forget to get your tail and horns too inside the cavity... 😂😂😂
@sot11cat i agree with Thomas. Does that make me a Russian apologist? Rather than insulting others try to exercise a degree of professional respect for other opinions. In a democracy we have free speech..
Who is the new head of FSB?
Repeat please.
He knows whats coming and protecting his closest mate from the repercussions . .au
What exactly is coming?
I look and read and I can't shake the impression of an absolute lack of competence and reason. simple imposition of a trend and burying with tendentially interpreted facts by the media and then the expected and of course identically disastrous comments from the audience. By the casual audience but also by the professional audience, of course.
Shoigu will have to stay away from high windows and staircases if putin has sacked him
Shoigo is nothing more than a lazy chap
EVIL 😈 WILL ALWAYS BE WITH US ALL. UNTIL THE ALMIGHTY SAID ONCE BE GONE FROM ME.AND IT WILL BE INSTANTANIIOUS ❤❤❤❤
This Ruzzian offensive was made possible thanks to the likes of Marjorie Taylor Greene.
Headless chickens
Not sacked , mooved sideways, if you think he was sacked ( Moved to another position ) due to the war effort I think your mistakedn, sad to see but Ukrainian front lines are collapsing, they are out of men.
Imagine one day Russia becomes a democracy live in hope people
... you mean 'democracies' like in the West? .. where all the 'leaders' (Macron, Sunak, Trudeau, Meloni etc.) are appointed by the WEF/NWO globalist ..
LOST YOU LOST IT
SHOIGU IS THE KEY
STOP BS
Expertsay Ucraine going in history and you can take a seat too or keep change gender.
The The rumble stops here.
Si inca o intrebare peste doua-trei luni cu ce trupe va ramine bufonul ca sa faca "marea ofensiva din vara"????
Maga's favorite general
Putin tells Shoigu what to do and it fails. Putin blames him for the failure? Hmmm. Maybe Putie is the issue.
😂😂😂😂 Russian experts? 😂😂😂😂
Well - Russia is at full war economy …. But England is staying calm and carries on …. It was the UK that gave security guarantees to Ukraine to give up its nuclear arms. Wonder if you feel just a little bit embarrassed towards the Ukrainian people or if you play the US long game, let Europe sink once again into total chaos, to come to the rescue at the very end, when the damage is already long done.
😂😂😂😂😂
What took Poohtin so long 😂!
What took USA so long in Iraq? 😂
RUSSIA is coming RUSSIA is coming now RUSSIANS are here😀😆😂🤣
NATO should be sending 500k troops to Ukraine
Free Yewkraine
😂😂😂 this analyst doesn’t know anything….the Russian army is failing…no soviet economist is going to save it….
Why is it a blunder…nonsense propaganda channel.
Russian experts,hilarious 😂
why do english people struggle to pronounce Sergei? it's supposed to sound Sir-gay if that helps
What a moronic clickbait title. Shoigu was not sacked because of military mistakes. He was stripped of power and placed in a holding position because he was engaged in political maneuvering against Putin. Turns out that Prighozhin was spot on with his accusations and games were being played by Shoigu and Gerasimov in a grab for Prighozhin's massive wealth. Putin was being fed false information, and sensitive nuclear asset information was sold. Military mistakes had nothing to do with it. Russia runs like an uneasy collaboration of mafia families and the power balance is in flux. Your headline sounds like you have it confused with British Parliamentary scandals.
Liar ..
He held the post for 16 years
Reshuffle is normal practice in any government....
Putin is making Russia overall weaker in the long run, it's economy is turning into a wartime economy but can the rest of the economy support the costs, with its energy revenue going down considerably most probably not in the long term!?!
Tell us all please.
Was that food you brought at the store grown with Russian ammonium nitrate?
Was it transported on a ship or truck using fuel from Ural oil?
Was the electricity you consume generated with Russian refined uranium?
Weaker ? You seen how they did last year compared to the western economies?
These repeats posted as new videos are getting so annoying. On brink of unsubscribing.
Bye
They should make the narrative sit to their supporter' mind and start believing their nonsense😅
@@0nFoot Good evening footy.
Not sacked. Promoted to head of Russian national security. A promotion.
Are you his wife?
Joe Blogs' RUclips channel has a lot on the Russian economy, its move to a wartime setting and its continued failing.
According to cranks like joe blogs , didn’t he say Russia and China would collapse under sanctions two years ago ? Yeah and they grossed better profits than any other country .
Ask Joe blogs.
Was that food you brought at the store grown with Russian ammonium nitrate?
Was it transported on a ship or truck using fuel from Ural oil?
Was the electricity you consume generated with Russian refined uranium?
Literally go down to a year ago in joe blogs report and see how credible he is... All his predictions are wrong
@@throughput6674 The answer to all those is maybe in the past, not now, and never in the future. Prepare yourself for the fall of Russia my friend.
@@oeokosko You are delusional.
ALL western countries made Russian ammonium nitrate exempt from sanctions.
60% of the worlds diesel comes from Ural oil.
And the US imports Russian refined uranium, as do other western countries. Because Russia if the world biggest refiner of Uranium.
You have zero clue buddy. you are a virtue signalling hypocritical westerner at best.
Pretty sure he actually got a promotion and much more in responsibilities.
Dream on ❤❤.
TR, 🍄🙈
Pootin empire cannot even win a tactical war with a smaller country like Ukraine how much more a EU country? He tried to show his manhood threatening to use nuclear weapon, but basically he use his nukes as crying game.
He attack Ukraine indiscriminately while he cries if Ukraine fight back?🎉
Entire western world lost in Afghanistan 🇦🇫
Putin is Hitting ukraine and US led collective west so HARD
@@uzopaul871 exactly these other guys don’t know but the way China, Iran and Russia are defying the west and not towing the line with socioeconomic issues is admirable.
@@uzopaul871 Ouch. the West is hurting...
oh no - we're not are we?
If you were here you would know that we really wouldn't know the Ukraine war was happening the effects are so tiny on our economies.
The UK decided to increase military spending from 2% to 2.5% of its GDP by 2030.
Meanwhile Russia is spending 25% of its GDP on its military, with its infrastructure and economy collapsing - and still only making enough weapons in a year to replace 2 months of its losses at the front line. I wonder how long those Soviet-era stockpiles will last?
Oh dear.
Oye. Mira que ustedes hablan mierda caballero jajajaja. No saben nada de nada. 😅.