Why are UK authorities ignoring honour killings?
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- Опубликовано: 8 дек 2013
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There are 8 to 10 thousand forced marriages in the UK every year. As authorities are accused of taking 'honour' crimes too lightly, girls who resist or refuse a marriage can face abuse, torture, even death.
"We have kidnappings, abductions, sexual offences. Anything that you can imagine could happen does happen in the name of honour", Nazir Afzal, the Chief Prosecutor for Northwest England, tells us. Shafilia Ahmed simply wanted to be a lawyer and to make her own relationship choices. But her parents judged the 17-year-old's aspirations to be shameful to the family, so they killed her and made their other children watch the consequences of perceived dishonour. In the multi-cultural corners of the United Kingdom law enforcement authorities are struggling to address the problem. Police, in particular, have been accused of not taking honour crime seriously, ignoring clear warning signs and pleas for help. Detective Constable Palbinder Singh says part of the problem is being too culturally sensitive. "It's a ruse. We won't interfere with that family, it's their culture. Well hang on a minute, crimes are being committed, people's lives are being destroyed, people's freedoms are being suppressed."
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Don't call it honour it's just cold blooded murder
It's based on the families honour. Hence why it's called honour killings and violence.
Queen of King queenofking The same thing goes in your society only you have parents who kill thier own children for insurance money . Criminal behavior has nothing to do with religion or faith period
Denise G- Hill exactly!!!
Hasna Mullins I think it’s fair to say that people of all faiths/religions, cultures, races, and or genders do some pretty fucked up shit! Evil knows nothing of racism!
Hasna Mullins I’m not even from the UK and I’d like to apologize for what Kris Jones Jones said to you.. that was uncalled for and disgusting!
So refusing to marry & become a lawyer brings dishonor to your family but ordering rape & murder on your own daughter restores it WTF on what planet does that make any sort of sense.
I'd be proud my child was doing so well to become a lawyer.
Laws need to be sorted for this to be stopped.
No.. to not do as they like. To not abey your parents then their honor in the society is at stake.
Once you set foot in USA rules don't apply. The US will have your back
Right wtf is that. So sad.
My thoughts exactly. I can't believe people would do this.
@@619gyal lol, no Karen. That's not true AT ALL. these women were killed in the U.K. and there are honour killings in Canada and the USA as well. No country has your back if you're black or brown, because we are the minority in these countries.
Fathers from certain cultures really don’t even think their daughters are human beings
Not only father's even women! One of my mom's cousin was tired of spending on her daughter and was like " Oh god i wish i can marry her away, so that i dont have to spend so much on her"
Yup all they have is a kids to spread their name and so she can marry a guy with a good reputation really stupid
I Asian I married nobody asked me about my will nether her ,I have two children older one 9 year younger one is 6 ,
Now u tell me what should I do
Option
Leave her
Stay with her
Kill my parents why they did to me this
Kill my self or wife
Or final option kill them all no one spear include me
It should be a condition of entry to UK that these immigrants don’t practice their medieval ways against women! If so they will be sent back to country of origin!
@@margarethall4559 or simply not letting them in, much easier not to deal with the problem at all.
I was one of those women for over 17yrs. Married at 17. I was beaten and strangled to death twice. My babies breaking through the door and jumping on and hitting their father. I had mere seconds. It was documented by my Doctor- everyone knew but many feared that man. I stood up to him, suffering a spinal fracture at one point.. I am also an ethnic woman. I now suffer from RMS, and Osteoarthritis of my spine. I even have tearing in the cushions between the discs.. I have been discriminated against for more than half my life. As a result, I suffer immensely due to poor medical care. We need to change as a society in so many ways .. It changes you forever.
I'm so sorry love
Bitch how can you be strangled to death twice , you only die once and how were you able to comment on this video if you are dead ? You do not look like a Muslim woman , so stop acting satanist .
If you have such parents, you don´t need enemies.
Exactly, who needs enemies when you have such a family.
schnee78
I know right! U blood and flesh!
schnee78 Raheem don’t look happy.
EXACTLY
You made kids and you do not make their minds,,, and please Live and let them live....life is short guys please enjoy it
Dude, it's a good thing the guy is asking her if she really wants to get married, but he should ask her ALONE, without her parents sitting next to her!!
Roxy Woodward cute comment lovely
Roxy Woodward very good comment i appreciate it
Roxy Woodward yes that’s the point
She looked like she didn't want to marry him!!
Roxy Woodward doubt the parents would want to leave her alone with... a man... especially when she’s not even married... the gender diversity is real
as a 23 year old pakistani woman who grew up in scotland, i could never imagine my parents doing something so horrific. My parents have always stressed the importance of education, my parent are supporting my dreams of become a lawyer, and are so proud. I feel so sad for all the girls with evil parents like these
You are lucky dear that your parents are good to you.
But you married your cousin .
And have two children which are disabled.
@@garyjaguar8066 since when did you know anything about me? Thanks for letting me know I’m married Ig! Wasn’t planning on getting married but since you said I am I must be!
Oh and ladies and gentlemen here’s a perfect example of the “disabled kids’ that have been mentioned, stay safe and use protection people or you’ll end up with a man child like @garyjaguar8066
@@roserusso8477 your father sent you to Pakistan in 2022 .
Stop lying
@@garyjaguar8066 what the hell are you talking about?
I'm so glad I was born into a south asian family with a strong mother figure. My mom grew up on a farm with no electricity in rural India, but managed to put herself college, move to America and complete medical school here. She has a very domineering personality and would NEVER take any sh*t from my dad or anyone else😂 I'm just glad my little sister has a strong woman to look up too, it's so sad that many people look at woman as property rather than people.
Your mom sounds like a boss! Love that for you
Man,you are lucky...your mom is based 😎
Say namaste to maa ji from my behalf 🙏
Respect to your mother✨
That’s an incredible achievement. Actually in the UK the mothers are often the lead person in forced marriage and honour based violence. Sad but true.
Since the beg. of time, 10,000 yrs ago when the first man was created in the image of God, Satan has worked his evil in order to destroy what God has made. The entire Old Testament is filled with pagan religions that worship things of the world instead of God...it is filled with man murdering innocent human beings to pagan gods...it is filled with pagan religions that murder without punishment. God said there is ONLY ONE God, ONE religion and that is the Heavenly teachings sent through Christ to re-teach a pagan world that which was lost in the Garden of Eden through choosing to worship the world instead of God. In this case, England is already a country of idle worshipers of flesh, thus, the centuries old belief in worshiping humans re: queen Liz etc. These are pagan religions that enchant millions of idle worshipers who worship in Satan's kingdom instead of obeying God and worshiping Him alone. "Honour killing" is nothing more than one more pagan religion that worships the teachings of Satan instead of God. God commanded, "You shall not kill". Any man-made religion that ignores, rejects, or contradicts God IS a pagan religion, one that worships the teachings of Satan, in his kingdom, which is the world. All these commenters are stupid fools for not recognizing that the root of all evil is Satan.
I don’t understand why people force their daughters to marry boys the parents like. It’s not the parents who are spending the rest of their life with the boy. It’s their daughter.
Typical indian and Pakistan thinking ... Not coming out out it
They see their daughters as objects to use and abuse, not actual people with feelings and rights.
I can understand the use of a parents' blessing - a *good* parent knows what is best for their child, and sometimes when you're in love, you don't notice that your significant other may actually be a monster. That's why it's so important for a parent to be onboard with a marriage, to make sure the child will be safe. But to force a child to marry is another thing entirely... It's terrible, and it shouldn't be happening in a developed society.
The parents assume that they know better than their daughters simple as that. Many parents of every culture think they know what's best for their children and will lead them in certain directions. These are examples of that taken to the extreme and of course they are wrong and thankfully in this country these killings are recognised as the crimes that they are.
@@fructosecornsyrup5759 2:00 song name *"Tum hi ho by Arijit singh from Aashiqi 2"*
Imagine being so evil to kill your own child.
Bilal Al Rashid huh
Bilal Al Rashid looool Arabic
Bilal Al Rashid what are you saying I don’t understand you
Amin Ali it’s not good
@Amin Ali are you ok
Sorry about my rant below but I was a teacher in an inner city school and lost five girls from my class to forced marriages abroad and honour killings were known as being held over the girls even at such an age as the primary school children I taught. It’s so scary. I had a lot of trouble when dealing with the male family members on parents evenings or if I needed to talk to them about the child in my class. I even had a father come into my class whilst they were all gathered around and beat his daughter with a large stick, when I intervened he hit me too but I wasn’t having anyone beaten in my care!! It was a major eye opener and the things these children told me in confidence is horrific!!
These things happen in India at all States.
That is horrible!!
Barbaric!!!!
What was the heads responce ? Or the police ?
not all states@@menaceman42069
I've read Jaswinder Singhara's book and that woman suffered so to say that she's made a career out of what happened to her is ignorant, disgusting individual. She's made a successful life, using her own difficult situation to empower herself and others and for that she should be very proud
Haven't read the book, but thought exactly the same. To present no argument or statistics and outrightly insulting her, how disgusting. The man is afraid of being disowned by the community and knows how to lie through his teeth like a politician. Exactly what the detective said when asked about his engagement with the community, that this is being driven by the community's leaders
Would you prefer her not say anything about what happened to her and her sister Robina? It's because of her and other campaigners that the public now know about honor-based violence, and can better spot the signs, and hopefully stop tragedies from occurring.
I find JS such an inspirational woman.
Well, what have 'you' done for the cause in the last 12 months? What changes have 'you' done in order to make a difference? How have 'you' been working on your own life in order to get rid of all the evil that 'you' practice and accept doing against God?
@@beantrader4723 wtf are you talking about?
As the father of a grown up daughter I can’t imagine causing her harm , it’s unimaginable
I can only imagine this sick behaviour shown in the documentary if you see your daughters as burdens that need to be married off asap. Really sad, indeed
Ikr
@Amb Dar No
Still the likes of Corbyn kiss their ass
@@dmethil True.
Don't ever underestimate the value of freedom
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All self-inflicted on the UK by successive governments.
Amen to that
Irvin Sahni Agreed... however even freedom has a price!
great words!
How do you stuff a plastic bag down your own child's throat and then dump her body in the river. I have brought shame to my family many times over and my mother loves me none the less she says I am her rose
How could you do that to anyone especially your own kin is beyond me.
Sociopathy is rampant in these cultures. They uphold something as fickle and superficial as family reputation, and so much to the extent that they would kill, to maintain it. Nasty stuff.
Until I saw this video I didn't know about this even though I'm British. It makes me sad to remember those popular Asian girls disappearing from my secondary school and everyone thought they just moved somewhere else.😞
I'm not sure whether they moved or got married off. I don't think it happens now tho. I miss those girls
I knew Muslim friends who's sisters at a certain age would get sent back home where they are children but can marry very very old men then they come back here when they are considered adults and it's all legally good.
Daughter kisses boy, "disgraces" family.
Daughter killed.
Society "We good now. Honor restored. Kiss never happened.
🙄🙄🙄
In Asian culture kissing an opposite sex before marriage is considered as a sin.
@@kripitamody2543
Which is understandable but it does not give grounds to have a girl killed.
@@kripitamody2543 my sister was kissing me whole the time as a kid
@@kripitamody2543 more like southeast Asian
@@sasasadsfgasd9576 lol that is your sibling.
Its not the police that are failing these girls it is their families, their culture, their religious leaders. Their parents are the worst offenders.
Suzy T And the police.
@@flogriffin291 And just what would you have the police do? Patrol every airport, and stop every family travelling to Pakistan to ask if they are forcing their daughter to marry, to which the parents will reply, No we are not. Perhaps you would have them attend every muslim wedding and ask if the marriage is forced. Until the "honour culture "is stamped out these dreadful things will continue to happen to these girls.
Suzy T No, but when someone comes forward and says that their parents have just attempted to murder them they should not be told they're being melodramatic, only to be murdered the following week. The same thing happens every week to victims of domestic violence who have gone to the police for help. The sad thing is that most people presume these events are one off failures by the authorities, but they are pretty much routine, especially if there's a cultural element.
@@flogriffin291 My heart bleeds for these poor girls, it is unimaginable that their own family would hurt them in the name of "honour", but you cannot blame the police, As a past victim of domestic violence, I have nothing but praise the police in my personal experience.
Suzy T I'm glad that you had a good outcome.
If people say I'm racist with this kind of people, I don't care.
Same
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@@seshukumar9002 ????
@@afsananehath689 You wont understand. Nobody understood neither before nor after death of my children.
@@seshukumar9002 what your children
Why do we have to import foreign criminal practices that were never known in Britain before?
This is the only wedding I've ever seen where nobody seems happy.
Poorbanazoverlookedbybritishpigsrestinpeacelovelybanaz
Welcome to south asia and middle east
@@JohnWilliams-ke3sb Can you translate this crap?
What are you talking about? They all are happy
Mitra Mazumder why do all four of you have purple pfp? XD also im sure every single arab and south asian isnt miserable, i mean look at me :D People who have that ideology in their heads should just stay in the 3rd world countries they came from tbf
why immigrante to another country to keep your rural caveman traditions? mind you im a Muslim female and also an immigrant.
*immigrate
I completely agree! If arranged marriages and "family honor" (in the MEN'S eyes) is so important, why not stay and LIVE in a country where IT IS practiced and important?
On another note, I see why the men can be so posessive (not that it makes it right) but the women are GORGEOUS! And this is coming from a heterosexual Latina woman!
b3st3stwifey I agree, my family moved awya from this so we as girls could have a better life and do what we want. As a muslim i get it, but my family said we used to do it back in the day because we had no choice or opportunity, whereas now we do have choices and that includes marrying the person when you want and whoever you want.
I feel so bad for the women in other countries who have no support !
So sad, but you made up a very good point that I was thinking while watching this video, why you have come in western in the first time? My neighbors are from somali, and their culture is to not CUT, REMOVE theirs daughters clits, it’s very painful 😖 some bleeds to death 💀 these kind of things need be stopped 😡
Imagine coming to a Western country, raising children there and being offended that said children adopt western views and ambitions.
Honor killings should never be allowed!!!
Europens permit this
They say weddings are usually a woman's day...... can any body see any smiles of joy on those women faces? I saw a mix between sadness and fear.
I saw the same. This is happening worldwide, especially muslims. It seems as if No government, or, local officials will do anything, because they don't want to upset Muslim people, they just leave them to be as they are, not as the society they live amoung. They want to stay Politically Correct.......... SHAME, TO ALLOW
The Critical Thinking Channel it is a cultural thing that the women must be sad on their wedding day, because they are leaving the parents home.
Saifullah Al Afghani ,😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂!How can you say a lie like this?You think we are blind?Stoopid?Uneducated?No,no,no,our eyes its wide shut...
Bollywood you are full of bullshit!
I'm not condoning it. It's another societal expectation that the bride should be sullen because. I joked with my mom and said, "Of course I'll cry at my wedding...because it'll be a freaking miracle if I even get married." 😂😂😂 But if you're talking specifically about Nagina's wedding and how the women were caught on camera, then that's not fear. It was just bad timing. We have dedicated memes and jokes about how wedding cameramen always catches us at the wrong time 😂😂😂
I wouldn't marry those monsters if they offered me a billion dollars
As someone who comes from a traditional Arabic background I say same. If I ever get forced into a marriage, the man will get his dick ripped off and he'll be my victim of honor killing. Better than wasting my entire life as an abused slave.
Its more the stick then the carrot. Either you marry them, or you get kicked out of your home or worse.
Tabitha Brennan
We’re pretty good in the sack
Sinjin Smythe
Good for them. They are on to something
Randolph Ross
😂🤣🤪
Imagine this is common practice back in their country. Sad.
imagine the amount of girls that just kept quiet and took the abuse. it's safe to assume that more than 1000 in England have been apart of this
Lol at them acting like she had ANY consent or choice in that marriage 🙄
Religiously, she does have a choice. Chapter 4 verse 19 makes that clear. But unfortunately, most of that community would either be shocked or extremely disappointed
I am from India and my family is not like this but I've relatives who think like this.This is so sick!
Saginaw bola
@@himaniaswal4876 Huh?
Good grief! It must be hard for you seeing their attitude.
Yet the Indians carry themselves as a sacred people.
@@marilyncoyne4034 we are
The clip of only the men dancing at the wedding said it all ...
That is dhole, men dance to it. Though marriage of Muslim but the people playing the instrument are sikh. Women will dance to songs and "gidha" .
Sinjin Smythe
Your knowledge of Pakistanis is unmatched
Are. They gay?....sure looks that way...how strange these people are.
@@protectork9831 Exactly. It is a completely different culture.
Brenda Natale omg crazy you see a different culture and think of them as strange. sorry not everyone is caucasian sis😗 people with cultures have different dances, seems like you know nothing of it.
it doesnt help when she is being asked if she is marrying of her own free will with her parents right next to her, the imam should ask them to leave the room
The guy who marries the couple I love how he says if they don’t want it it ain’t happening. This stuff should not happen and still does it is so heartbreaking to hear these stories
It is MURDER and has nothing to do with honour. Stop calling it honour!
It is the expression. Like revenge killings
An honour killing is in IN the own family. Father, with coran in his hand telling his son to kill his. daughter. If you drive a car and drive somebody dead does not mean you are a murderer.
@@tropicalstrings Whosoever killed a person ... it shall be as if he had killed all mankind" (5:32).
There are evil in every country and every religion.
Religion is most peaceful and best way of life.
People do evil kills them self and kills others. That's not the way of God. Peace.
@@nhazin4389 If I may ask, if indeed Islam opposes forced marriages and honor killings, what would be the proper way to handle a Muslim girl/woman falling in love with a non-Muslim boy/man? Since men are allowed to marry non-Muslims while women are forbidden to do so, because the kids automatically (and must) follow their father's religion. No offense, but if Islam truly is about peace and love why should any of that even matter anyway?
@@tropicalstrings it says if you killed a person
It doesn't mention religion. Look it up it's in the Quran
All the ladies at that wedding looked completely miserable
Notice how they segregate the sexes? Even in dancing the men dance together. The women sit together. They are conditioned to marry. Many also marry relatives causing a high proportion of disabled kids or kids with health issues. That in turn causes a high cost to the NHS/taxpayers. The culture is completely different to what Europeans are used to. I don't know why they want to live here. They could do all their strange behaviours in countries used to the backward cultures
@@kathleen5237 They are having twice as many children. In twenty years or so....
@@harolddburke4726 I see it in my community. The women marry and don't go to work, even young ones. To put it crudely they are just baby machines. 6 children in a family, no problem. More, more, more. Then they brag Islam is growing fast - through sheer birth numbers though. Many leave or pretend to follow it. Otherwise they can be at the least shunned and at the worst murdered
Kate
You are being overwhelmed by brownies
@@kathleen5237 mean abit Like the Irish baby making machines lol pot kettle black .
It’s very simple; ANYONE LIVING IN BRITAIN HAS TO FOLLOW BRITISH LAW AND BE PROTECTED BY BRITISH LAW!!!!!!
exactly
I find it funny that this is about honor. Because their action of killing a family member they couldn't supress shows they had no honor in the first place. I find so many of their practises dishonorable and obviously dispicable that I don't understand how they think that murder is permissable or even hororable. How skewered and disregarding the value of human life must that culture be. That community is so hateful, ungrateful and toxic.
What honour ? To kill your own daughter?? Is that u call honour? So crazy doing..insane beliefs
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Jes Wanita
If parents did that in the U.S.A. the parents would get the death penalty
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I am from India and its almost funny. These clowns from south Asian countries like India, Pakistan and Bangladesh fantasize about living in western countries. They think of it as a status symbol. But when it comes to accepting their host countries’ value, they fail miserably. They have no fucking honour. Some of these fuckwits would literally suck dicks to go to western counties. Sorry for my language but this makes me really angry. These people are the reason why third world countries stay the way they are
They have no honour nor morality. They have their tribal cult. That's all
My best friend works in the police and he’s always telling me about the frustration of trying to stop honour killings. There’s usually lots of calls about domestic abuse but even after a woman gives a statement or tries to leave, the family hunt her down and force her to drop charges. Sometimes even extended family are involved and if she has no money the woman has nowhere to go. My best friend tells me it’s the most frustratingly sad cases he deals with.
That's so sad..😢😭😭😭
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Same crap i every religious communities. Disgusting.
In most places in the U.S. it’s enough that someone has marks. The DA presses charges on the perpetrator
It is in Islamic culture and not in hindu cultures...
Pakistan is the root cause. Your bastard leader Winston created it and put it on south asia...
Omg I couldn't imagine a plastic bag forced down my throat...wow unbelievable...I have asthma and I know how that feels not being able to breathe... just imagine how terrifying that must have been for that 17 year old child cause she was still a child...any parent/parents that can murder their child/children should get the death penalty no matter the circumstances...rest in peace young ladies 🙏🙏🙏
The British authorities claiming they do not know what a joke 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Much respect to that Sikh police officer. Speaking the truth and representing his community in an "honourable" manner.
I guess you haven't heard of aarushi talwar then
Or of gagandip or of jassi
@@zaynohara4203 Aarushi Talwar case is India's problem not UK
@@zaynohara4203 Jassi's case is fake it's even proof
@@Srankillerttt when did I say that it's UK's or India's problem the discussion was about Sikhs being involved in honour killings not about India or Uk
That old Sikh man in parliament needs to be ashamed, it does happen in the Sikh community! My school mate was forced to marry when she was 15, we were all so scared for her, her younger sister ran away afterwards. She was British born Sikh it’s not an exception it happens all the time!!!!
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God, is she alright? Is she safe now?
I went to school with a Sikh lad who married his wife on their second meeting. Him and all 3 of his siblings had arranged marriage’s. one of the marriage’s nearly ended in tragedy and his brother was stabbed in his sleep off his wife. He was so lucky not to of been killed as the stab wound was only an inch from a main artery.
@@howey935 To be honest I really can't blame the wife. Probably she really didn't want to be married and resented her husband to the point she preferred jail over the marriage she was forced.
Shame on England giving this Sikh such a position
Sikh u mean sick?
I’m Arab and part south Asian too and I come from a Muslim household, and I always feel thankful my mum (who although is a muslim was raised mainly in the west) let’s me have boyfriends and wear shorter clothes and live my life. I go to a Pakistani majority high school in The uk and so many girls I know went to Pakistan and never came back and I fear the worst for them. Never stop feeling grateful for your freedom, so many people especially girls don’t have it.
They're not dead, they're in Pakistan living their life as their husband's 4th wife.
I've got a great idea on how to stop honour killings... Pass a law in which whomever commits honour killings lose all their property plus a life sentence, believe me this wouldn't occur anymore.
TheLandOfTears s It would but which politician will enforce this!
They want the vote of this community!
So the law and order of England takes a backseat.
How about a death sentence instead
Do you think the government couldn't stop these bullshits if wanted!!!?
The troubled Britain and America they don't come up against these people. they let them have Sharia law and the whole business.
The trouble with these people in Britain and America will not come up against Sharia law. Cowards
raped by her uncle and father? WTF?! thats sick.
+britters220 "ordered by"
oh thanks. XD hurr durr.
I double took and had to check lol!
+britters220 This happened in 2006 she was 20... In fact her uncle and father decided to kill her but they send some of her cousins to do the job... rape her and then kill her... Some months prior she already survive to a murder attent by his father... she went to the police...but the police do nothing serious...
Even previously she was married at 17 with somebody that she did not choose from his community (Iraqui Kurds)...
This ended in divorce 2 years later because her husband was violent and repeatedly raped her...
Now last thing... this girl found the time to find a boyfriend a few months before she died... her true love boyfriend was an Irani Kurd... that means both were Kurds... but this never happy family do not supported it...
What is strange is that her boyfriend and her were Kurds and her family was angry anyway !
What about if is she was with a black african?... or white christian brit ? they are beyond haterz...
The father the oncle and two cousins took around 20 years of prison
well hope they get sodomized in prison complete with painful anal fissures that never completely heal on their own.
In an idealistic world Deadpool would castrate them. #Deadpool
Lmao that man talking about consent. “Would you like to get married or get murder?”
Wow that was a good piece. These people are amazing for standing strong in their identity, and also for what is right.
If these people want to live in western culture, then they must live in our culture, under our laws, or go back.
But see, you offered two choices, A, follow our law, B, go back--but see, they chose option C, to stay here and NOT follow our law; I would change your comment from "must" to "should". By the way, this is true for most everyone, we all want to at time "do it our own way" in spite of laws; they are no different, but sometimes just far more radical. What I never know, is the percentages, to 80 percent, or 8 percent stay radical, I really don't know.
BRETT D i think u need a reality check... They contribute after working hard and you guys sit at home claiming benefits lmao. why dont you compare your success with any other foreigner? i bet you will have only £30 to spend for your next week and driving a astra or focus🤣🤣. conclusion is Respect humanity and freedom forget about forcing anyone’s culture on anyone. i have said what i wanted to.. “dont expect my reply as u dont have anything better to do and i have lots to do..🤣🤣 ✌🏻
@BRETT D I agree with you 100% , but that idiot thinks we drive astra's is the one in his family that would do this shit for honour, but Brett what you should of said was if you don't follow our law's then fuck off .
@TheDeathflows Culture is ok but killing in the name of culture is not justified!!!
Fuck off
I come from a conservativeish Indian family, and I live in the US, but no. Don't use culture as an excuse for abuse. Abuse is abuse no matter who is doing it or who is its victim.
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Thank you for shedding light on this issue.
Whatever culture or traditions; killing to others or to their own members of their family is terrible crimes..it is so wrong and please stop of this.and put to ground "0".Justice must be served and laws must be obeyed...
The only woman smiling at that wedding was the bride and it looked more like a grimace of fear than a smile. Of course all the men smirked.
Honour my arse. It's about money marrying money or keeping money in the family. It's a disgrace
Trisha Hopkins Your comment seems to be on point.
@@texasgun2731 Then work for it and Stfu
Trisha Hopkins Sadly, that’s the same thing my mom said about money over love. She wants to put me in an arranged marriage like she did.
I told her that I want to spend my life with someone who I could love than money. She then used the “What about the kids?” Or “Being rich can make your life easier” excuse.
But I can clearly see that she’s not happy with my dad. He’s not abusive in anyway but she and him doesn’t have much in common and their differences in personality would clashed a lot. And she cannot get a divorce because it’s considered to be an embarrassment to the family to have a divorce in my country.
@@narararamammily5386have courage and follow YOUR dreams.
U on cuckoo land love
" Perhaps we need to speak out more about them" !!
10:01 damn he has got the dopest mustache I have ever scene.
*seen* I think it's brilliant
Wow, watching this makes me really appreciate the freedom I have as a woman.
Ur so lucky:(
Realmatic 35 why do you utter garbage about Islam? this is a disgusting culture that needs to end not islam. nowhere in the quran it says kill women. This is about men and their sick & filthy minds. This has happened in europe too but the womens fight for their freedom has shaped the men. This reform will come to middle east too one day.
Mynx Mellon you don't have the brain to understand anything let alone islam. If islam was bad your women wouldn't turn to islam on a daily basis. everyday I see new white muslim women. search the real islam you'll find the truth, don't follow things blindly. I bet you haven't even read one page of the quran.
Enjoy it while it lasts.
Not much longer darling.
Not if you keep voting for people who bing more in and ignore the rate they are breeding at.
Sweden is just about to fall and Germany and France are not far behind.
We in the UK will be Islamic by 2050.
Just keep on voting for people who will hide all the symptoms from you.
We have had such a chain of gruesome murders hidden from the public here.
It's got quite a pace to it by now and people convert if they live near muslims and can't afford to move house.
We have no choice.
Wake the hell up!
John Morley, so is that why after they convert to islam they also try to spread the truth and call other people to islam? Your obviuos lies make me laugh😅
Honor killing is a crime that should be punished full stop.
Farhana Ahmad: Oh wait.... Honor Killing not crime in UK? No wonder that’s why so many girls in Pakistan Bangladesh and India getting killed. Now wait again, isn’t laws in these countries are still as is as British left? No wonder that’s why Honor Killing is not criminalized in UK. I hope those who kill their daughters were in USA. Trust me, those parents would be in prison long time back. Or should I say in less than a week they will in prison to ROT like a RAT.
It never will be get over it
Yes, it's murder. Why do they want to have kids only to murder them if they want a free, happy life instead of miserable obedience?
@@gneshvdev what's the difference between Canada, USA and Europe these days?
Do not mistreat girls
Do not murder girls
Do not call it honour when you dishonour a human being who is a young girl
They get honour and shame so backwards it is mind-bending to try and imagine people actually thinking this way.
"Are you getting married under your own free will? Are you are under no force no pressure to get married? "
Oh suuure, like hell shed say no mid calibration literally sandwiched between her parents. I cant help but think this is more for show to give the illusion of choice. If she said no I'd wager it would not end well for her.
As a Muslim I can confirm that, of course she'll say yes in the middle of the fucking wedding.
Except for the eyes to eyes smile between that particular couple
Tbf she looked pretty happy
Thank goodness I can do as I please.
Miriam Israel you are lucky
@@hhhihicsfjb9638 all you gotta do is come to America and you can live free to
@@bunniebuns300 how is that possible?
I’ve watched Jaswinder’s TED talk. It’s a must-watch. I’m glad her daughter married for love. I pray more people who want to marry will marry for true love and compassion and everyone lives the lives they want.
Jaswinder is a amazing woman.
If you live in country that has different laws, then you abide by those laws. Culture be damned.
They should be fucking kicked out or sentenced to harsh punishments to set an example.
Better not to go in that land. The MOST STUPID ACTION of these muslim men.
muslims are seem to be untouchable. Shame Britain
@Virginia i can tell you that indian constitution also doesn't allow for any such bullshit. It gives equal rights to people, it is just the uneducated, conservative people who do such things because other uneducated people of their tribe/village talk ill about them, thus the need to save the honor.
Educated and broad minded people in India or of indian origin don't do any such things.
But ofcourse the narrow-minded are probably more in numbers.
@paul castle Which is why President Trump does not permit Muslims to enter, same as China and Japan.
All of the women in this were so beautiful. I feel sad for any one forced into marriage, regardless of their culture.
Don't mind me saying but you're cuter than them.
@@thetruthhere8606 |You seem like a bad role model tbh
Except if they are white.
They should grow mustaches and shave their heads, buy leather bike wear and slap around their nasty murderous relatives. Death to Islam.
So if they are ugly it's okay?
HONOR KILLING...2 words that dont go together !!!!!!!!
Yes i agree its straight up murder
I'm half Turkish Cypriot and from England. My dad was very strict and married my mum who was Caucasian. I wasn't allowed to do what I wanted. Im free now after being divorced when I was younger. Makes me so mad that these parents move to England and have the ordasity to force they're loved one's into arranged marriages. You can't live in the western world and expect this when mixing with other cultures.
Tell them.
These people are hipocrits. If they want the children to follow rules of their home land, they should have stayed in their country. Expose them to u.k /u.s values n expect them to follow their country 's values is wrong.
A politician that says it’s not a problem 😂🙄 surprise surprise 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
typical labour party
That old goat from the house of lords should be stripped of his position as he's a disgrace! He's either naïve or complicit, either way he needs removing from his position of prominence. 😡😡😡
The Sikh community in general is very conservative; my cousin married a girl from that community and a majority of the Sikh temples would not wed them because my cousin wasn't the same kind of Indian. They had to find a more modern and accepting temple to conduct a Sikh wedding for them. I find it very sad that culture and religion divide humans more than they unite them.
Your cousin is a hindu?
What kind of parents would kill their own daughter?
Pakistani parents.
Parents who do it in the name of religion, God, and male domination. As he said, they are crimes committed in "the name of the father, the son, and the blessed males of the family".
Sick evil heartless parents who shouldn’t be allowed to have kids
Parents from.very regressive mindsets
And indians
The girl who suffocated on a plastic bag by the hands of her parents, look how beautiful she was how can her parents kill her and not give a damn heartbreaking they had no right to do what they did to their daughter how dare they think they have the right they are nothing but cowards
Goodness gracious me. Parents must protect their children, not kill them. What s...t is that.
Paul Wilson
But that's how they learn init?
BUT THESE ARE PEOPLE OF PEACE
They did it because the have no love in their hearts...
hugh graeme It’s related to ethnocultural beliefs. If you listened, the connecting thought between the parents of this ethnic group (not genetically related) is the “paramount” consideration of family honor. By not marrying, they were all potentially ruining their family honor in the eyes of those of the same ethnocultural background. Connection to one’s ethnicity is on a spectrum from fully participating to unknowingly participating. This thought process of family honor finds itself between the two. Similar to the way some other groups do things “just because it’s how you do things.”
You need laws: People travelling abroad with children under age 18 will not be accepted back to the country without their children
Innocent girls being killed because of honour, it's heartbreaking barbaric and infringement on their human rights, #say no honour killing
A stone age ideology brings stone age actions.
This is not an “ideology” it is a cultural problem
The imam even explains this
@@oneman80840 you keep telling yourself that, who knows you might even end up believing it yourself
Danny Kirton
Idk mate your acting irrational try to think things through if you have the brains
@@oneman80840 If you had brains you'd know it's "you're" rather than your.
Danny Kirton how is that a counter? Your comment is so pathetic, the religion has nothing to do with it. In fact it discourages it immensely, it’s their culture
It is men's world, as you see only men are happy at the wedding ,they are the one who are dancing and having great time .all the rules are written by men for men .woman has no say so.but it can be changed.
Yep... they reach the age where they can finally possess a wife...
sakinehbs
suckers r happy to get laid every time they feel like it from that day on
sakinehbs but woman are dragged by woman not by man....
I agree..I've noticed it too and thought the same thing...sad and corrupt world rulled by men..
@@sonny8395 afghans marry between afghans we love our culture too much to go with germans..
How absolutely disgusting 😡😡😡
Isn’t it weird how a lot of the ‘honor’ killings involve the victim being r*ped in ‘honor’ 😑 that’s how you know it all about the male pleasure and ego
What gives parents and male family members the right to OWN the female members of their family? These so called honour killings HAVE to stop. My heart goes out to these poor girls.Thank God there are people they can turn to now for help like Jasminda..Keep up the good work
Kathy Marik what gives this parents right? They think just because they raise this children and gave birth to them, they have the right and the reputation of the families in front of other peoples instead of thinking how they children feels.
@@lovelyblossoms6699 the children are not something parents own or can in future decide on. Those children are humans with their own choices and life
Maria Bahaoui that’s what I just said tf
I want to know the 2 other girls name , one was shafilia I do know the story about her , but the 2 girls I want their names ?
The men is these communities are also trapped. The story of Itikhar Ahmed is very telling. He of course, went on to kill his daughter. But as a young man who visited his dying mother he was forced into an arranged marriage in Pakistan. So the men are also under cultural pressure.
Made me thankful that I have freedom even though im just a waitress
money, status can not define a person only happiness can!!
Such a backwards community, killing in the name of honour, absolutely no honour in killing your own family. RIP Beautiful ladies ❤
Which specific community you're referring to? Pakistani one?
You’re absolutely right, Shirley. There is no such thing as honor killing. Such gibberish like that never existed.
"Why are UK authorities ignoring honor killings?"
Because the UK deems that harassing dissidents is more important than protecting the innocent, _especially_ when the dissidents criticize honor killings and other customs of the "religion of peace".
Because it's not worth the grief or the shit people in power like Dianne Abbott & Muslim councillor's in towns& cities that out number non Muslim councillor's cause them!
@@sarah5893 LoL heard that a Muslim in house of lords was taken in for 2 counts of child rape.
@Faffy1819 G What's your fucking problem?
You have set up your own courts, why are you blaming UK, you do not want to integrate, what do you want Uk to do, you get on with it. You cannot eat your cake and still have it. Why should UK interfere with your mess. I am truly sorry for the individual but you insist on your tradition???? Change it if its a cause of crime and pain.
@@sarah5893 I was born in England over 70 years ago - it's not the same country any more - it's garbage and the people in charge are idiots - I'm so glad my parents brought my brother and me to Canada when I was 5. Now the problem is to keep Canada from degenerating into chaos like the U.K......
If I didn’t run away from my arranged marriage , my mother would have murdered me. I did ask for help from the person who gave me a heads up but they said they couldn’t go against the family. I didn’t tell or ask anyone else for help as if my own family wouldn’t protect or help me , no one would.I was turning 16 & he was 30
I am so sorry this happened to you
@@jubileej1629 Thank you .I'm very lucky I ran away as I have a lovely life now.
Dang I’m sorry this happened to u
@@chileanzombie42 good decision... God bless you. Stay happy.
You are an inspiration. So brave. God bless you!!
The detectives said it really perfectly
Imagine that. A plastic bag forced down her throat because she wanted to be a lawyer. Dear God how cruel. They need educating. Its up to the elders or whatever to change this monstrosity of belief. Sickening
You’re safe in the UK now... oops, no you’re not!
The way the government handling this pandemic is an utter joke.
It's the worst in the UK
@White Revolt Not what I was aiming for mate but okay
I was forced to go overseas to get married. But my family listened after awhile. I am one of the lucky ones.
@G Singh all of those child rapist and murderers should honor suicided them selves..
Poor standards of policing and justice in Britain. 😮
This is barbaric and sick. There's no honor in committing cold-blooded, premeditated murder, especially murdering their own flesh and blood. Their sense of "honor" is fucked up.
My gosh how an they live with killing there daughter. Sad
they don't feel apathy at all .. i can vouch for it as i m indian and there are honour killings happening everywhere in our country .. the parents feel that society and their culture is more important than other things . Even the general population is so against the idea of marrying someone out of their culture and as soon as you turn 20 they start looking for potential grooms . I have been facing this situation though my parents are not at this level of radicalism still i think they would hate me if i marry outside of my caste but i guess i am lucky i have found someone who is from my caste still i can't tell my parents about him because he is still studying and doesnt have a job .. and my parents are kind of pushing me to marry older guy who has jobs and properties . I have rejected 2 of them till date and father is so furious and said to me that " it would have been better if i would have kept you uneducated and married off earlier" .. this statement hurt me so much that i am convinced this it's deep rooted in our society. Only future generations who will not accept these absurd ideas will help remove these crimes.
Poonam Shinde young lady, best wishes for your future. Find work and make yourself independent. Your children will be proud of you.
Beverly Ann
You can make another one and tell the new one what an idiot the first one was
Bob Singh parents can fill a chug with about manner of superstitious nonsense.
Stuart Hastie
Indeed
The fact that the woman's or wife's rights are even being discussed at the wedding just proves how few "rights" the woman actually has.
All that bullshit about consent is all something that should go unsaid. It should already be known. This is just a way to cover their tracks.
If that woman in fact did say she had a problem with the marriage she would be killed for bringing dishonor to her family...
The whole concept of "Honor" is ancient and antiquated to me.
The Japanese may have a very strange culture regarding honor as well but at least the dishonorable one kills his/herself instead of getting MURDERED by your own FAMILY.
Junger Flaanger still wrong
Yet here we stand in 2019 where movements like the #metoo are being disregarded - women actively trying to speak out about basic rights yet we still struggle so no I don't think talking about women's rights at a wedding that proves anything -.-. Also what shitty point were you trying to convey?
@N GUY 26:27? She seems quite happy. But ofcourse it's also sad because she'll be leaving her family...
@N GUY it's the same wedding...
It is to brain wash their women to believe that islam brought more rights for women and honour than any other religion, sadly their women believe it.
I feel sad for all those beautiful souls still living under these conditions
This is the outlook of societies, where it is obligatory to respect your parents, no matter how bad they are.
hey where the heck are these feminist? WOMEN'S RIGHT, WOMEN'S FREEDOM ask them to do something now
They are busy demonstrating in favour of burkas, niqabs etc and accusing the rest of us of islamophobia. Go figure.
John Narayan who are you to assume all of this? don’t generalize such a large community. You are literally sexist and don’t tell me i’m twisting your words, because you’ve just said that women are ‘typical females, ie cowards’ which is bringing down a whole gender. Maybe you should take a step back and gain view of the full image, not this cloudy view you’ve been appointed with. True feminists are trying to help females out globally, the ‘feminists’ you’re speaking about are not inclusive.
@John Narayan Who do you think is running the charities where women at risk can turn to? Do you think they are conservative women? These are feminists who are fighting against forced marriage.
You're probably one of those incels who have been rejected by women and so hate them as much as these men in the video.
Most of them are pseudo feminists. They are worried about whether their dresses should have pockets or not yet don't even bat an eye to this matter.
It shows modern feminists don’t really care about women’s rights. All they care about is abortion. I would never call myself a feminist!
These people are disgusting
Right now, in Montreal, Québec, Canada, we have an ongoing court case related to honour violence. It’s about a 16 year old muslim teenager girl. Her two older brothers and a third man abducted her from the restaurant she was working. Those men are now being charged with abduction, forcible confinement, death threat and mischiefs. One of the brothers thinks he is a « good, good, brother ». I read that in the past he hit her in the face so hard she had to go to the hospital. I see her as a victim of family abuse. Poor girl. I hope the judge will make the right decision. But I don’t know, she is a minor and from a different cultural background, it might play against her 😫, but it shouldn’t. A good society should always protect the vulnerable. I hope the poor young girl will at least get some kind of help and protection against the controlling members of her family.
I had a Indian guy who was of the Sikh religion who told me he loved, and I had never spoken to him before. I worked with him and he was from India. At first I thought he was kidding, but He was dead serious. He kept calling me a good girl and I was not like the other girls... I had to get 2 of my other friends involved because it was so wierd to hear I love you, yet not ever speaking to the guy... He even said He could look after me and give me whatever I wanted... it was one of the most awkward moments of my life, knowing this and having to work with him. And yes I was from a western country.
How do they call it 'honor' killings when it is obvious those committing the crime have no honor, and neither do those willfully concealing, and thereby becoming complicit in, the crime.
It's just an excuse to commit the crime. That's all it is
Myles Mylo it’s not an excuse at all. these people- as disgusting as they are- are not using this as a justification to just fulfil something theyv always wanted to do or tick something off their bucket list. There is so much pride within the asian community, they constantly think of what other family members will think and therefore do anything they can to create this perfect, ideal life. It’s disgusting because theyr looking at what other people think over their own children’s happiness but no, its just an excuse.
@@myahmajid okay google
Myles Mylo welcome hun xxx
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