glad you said minor power issue. I was out of power for about 60 hours. I consider this as 0.000000000000000000000000000000001 % of my life as a power user.
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 excellent video. Great quality video, lighting and close ups, explained really well and great side by side comparisons between the two carbs, 👍👍👍👍 well done !
Very nice! I have a whole house backup generator with an automatic transfer switch. I am very sure this generator and mod is much less expensive than mine. Although, I only have about $2500 in my back up generator. Great Video.
We used several of these on job sites and they hold up very well so I bought one for myself. Our house is a pain to do a permanent standby generator so it wasn't on the table for us. What i would like is a large backup battery and inverter.
As far as towing your generator is concerned, you might consider pulling your wheel kit altogether and buying a 24 inch wide yard cart. For $139 I got one at Harbor Freight rated for 1,000 lbs. The handle converts for towing, and by dropping the sides, there's easy access for services. There's also room enough for 4 2.5 gallon fuel jugs up front, and stowage for the power cable aft.
I would estimate you would loose around 2500 watts when running off propane and a little more off of natural gas. But just a guess going by other brands that have numbers on it. That said I don't know if the numbers anyone lists for output on any fuel can be trusted. Kind of like air output of air compressors. Who knows ...
I like your conversion video and would like to do this on my generator. I have the exact generator as you, however, when I search Amazon for carburetors it's overwhelming how many there are. Could you supply the brand and number of the carb you bought please?
This is the one I used. It goes in and out of stock and there are others on amazon that are the same one. Ignore the wattage listing. It has the same diameter venturi as the original gas one. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07ZP3H1N9/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title The Predator engines are very similar to the Hondas so many parts that fit one fit the other.
I like the way that kit fits. One question, the Amazon listing is for a kit for a 4.5 to 5.5 kw generator. Does that make a difference? Yours is a 8750 w.
The listings are as usual odd and misleading on Amazon. Go by the engine and the HP. The predator engine is basically a Honda 13hp clone. So go by engine for your final choice but if you are browsing for one that will fit an application you can use the approximate KWH output to help narrow your search.
It's dual fuel and technically tri fuel if you have a way to supply it natural gas. For me gasoline is a fuel of last resort in generators. No issues with bad fuel or gummed up carbs etc with propane. And during a power outage you most likely won't have access to gasoline as the pumps will be down.
HI Matt, I have the same setup, where did you get the "easy connector and what is the size". I have a bbq connector. Not Sure how to connect without cutting and hooking up to the inlet.
The regulator I am using is an off the shelf replacement one from Mr Heater which has a threaded 3/8 flare connection. For the quick disconnects you can use any propane/nat gas ones. As far as I know they are all the same here in the US. For the hose going from the connector to the carb I use 3/8 standard fuel hose.
Me again, so I am having a hard time with the fittings. If you use 3/8 fuel hose to carb. What fitting do you use from the3/8 hose to connect to a disconnect? I went to plumbing shop. They were no help.
@@dancheatham5106 These are the proper style of quick disconnects used for Propane and Natrual gas. www.amazon.com/EXCELFU-Natural-Connect-Fittings-Disconnect/dp/B07XYQ35GV/ref=asc_df_B07XYQ35GV/ To connect from the 3/8 fuel hose to the disconnect you need this. www.amazon.com/SUNGATOR-Brass-Fitting-Adapter-2-Pack/dp/B07MTQLFQC/ref=pd_lpo_2 From the regulator to the disconnect you need this. www.amazon.com/LASCO-17-4831-8-Inch-Thread-Adapter/dp/B008E5CIO4 You can usually get these locally for less than Amazon at an ace hardware or other hardware store. Most quick disconnects have pipe threads but a few do not. So what you need for your application may vary but this will get you in the ball park.
@@theinfernalcraftsman You should do a video of just these parts installed. Figuring out how to adapt the propane regulator is more time consuming and frustrating than installing the carb...This was the first good video with links to the parts I need. Otherwise I was going to cut off the end of the reg hose and fasten that straight to the carb ferrule.
The high pressure regulator is on the hose assembly and mounts directly to the propane tank. The low pressure one is on the carb itself. It is the lower part of the carb. I think you are used to seeing the retrofit kits which use a forklift regulator which is a really big 6" diameter thing. The factory style tri fuel carbs use a far smaller and more compact assembly.
It will run around 6 hours at half load off of a typical BBQ tank. They are typically only filled with 15 pounds of propane which is 3.5 gallons of propane and typically costs $14-$20 to exchange. Here propane is running just over $3 a gallon from a real propane seller not an exchange kiosk. It's much cheaper to run off of natural gas. If you have larger propane tanks that you can have a propane company fill it's quite a bit cheaper. The nice thing about these carbs is that it allows you to run any of the 3 fuels so you have alternatives and aren't stuck to just one fuel.
You can reuse the original. My only issue is with the possibility of warpage of the old one. Well that and the new one didn't need gasket material scraped off of it...
glad you said minor power issue. I was out of power for about 60 hours. I consider this as 0.000000000000000000000000000000001 % of my life as a power user.
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 excellent video. Great quality video, lighting and close ups, explained really well and great side by side comparisons between the two carbs, 👍👍👍👍 well done !
Very nice! I have a whole house backup generator with an automatic transfer switch. I am very sure this generator and mod is much less expensive than mine. Although, I only have about $2500 in my back up generator. Great Video.
We used several of these on job sites and they hold up very well so I bought one for myself. Our house is a pain to do a permanent standby generator so it wasn't on the table for us. What i would like is a large backup battery and inverter.
As far as towing your generator is concerned, you might consider pulling your wheel kit altogether and buying a 24 inch wide yard cart. For $139 I got one at Harbor Freight rated for 1,000 lbs. The handle converts for towing, and by dropping the sides, there's easy access for services. There's also room enough for 4 2.5 gallon fuel jugs up front, and stowage for the power cable aft.
That sounds like what I have mine mounted to. The handle is also removable so it can be pulled by the mower
How do you find what the new output rate is dont you need to know the new efficiency or how do you estimate it ? Thanks
I would estimate you would loose around 2500 watts when running off propane and a little more off of natural gas. But just a guess going by other brands that have numbers on it. That said I don't know if the numbers anyone lists for output on any fuel can be trusted. Kind of like air output of air compressors. Who knows ...
Hipi makes very good kits and fit great
Having both is smart and it will sale better to
Definitely having 3 sources of fuel is very nice to have. Solar is in the future at some point.
You didn’t plug the phone fume hose back on. Did you cut the nipple behind the air intake to make it for around the gas regulator?
I didn't have to cut any of the hoses. It was a direct drop in replacement for everything on the original gasoline side.
I like your conversion video and would like to do this on my generator. I have the exact generator as you, however, when I search Amazon for carburetors it's overwhelming how many there are. Could you supply the brand and number of the carb you bought please?
This is the one I used. It goes in and out of stock and there are others on amazon that are the same one. Ignore the wattage listing. It has the same diameter venturi as the original gas one. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07ZP3H1N9/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title
The Predator engines are very similar to the Hondas so many parts that fit one fit the other.
If your still looking check out Hipi store
I like the way that kit fits. One question, the Amazon listing is for a kit for a 4.5 to 5.5 kw generator. Does that make a difference? Yours is a 8750 w.
The listings are as usual odd and misleading on Amazon. Go by the engine and the HP. The predator engine is basically a Honda 13hp clone. So go by engine for your final choice but if you are browsing for one that will fit an application you can use the approximate KWH output to help narrow your search.
You may have to drill out jet a tad but it’s no big deal at all
High hp engine requires more fuel
Nicely done. You can do mine next....
Just to be clear, does this result in a conversion from gasoline to propane, or do you end up with a dual fuel generator?
It's dual fuel and technically tri fuel if you have a way to supply it natural gas. For me gasoline is a fuel of last resort in generators. No issues with bad fuel or gummed up carbs etc with propane. And during a power outage you most likely won't have access to gasoline as the pumps will be down.
Awsome. Great idea.
HI Matt, I have the same setup, where did you get the "easy connector and what is the size". I have a bbq connector. Not Sure how to connect without cutting and hooking up to the inlet.
The regulator I am using is an off the shelf replacement one from Mr Heater which has a threaded 3/8 flare connection. For the quick disconnects you can use any propane/nat gas ones. As far as I know they are all the same here in the US. For the hose going from the connector to the carb I use 3/8 standard fuel hose.
Me again, so I am having a hard time with the fittings. If you use 3/8 fuel hose to carb. What fitting do you use from the3/8 hose to connect to a disconnect? I went to plumbing shop. They were no help.
@@dancheatham5106 These are the proper style of quick disconnects used for Propane and Natrual gas. www.amazon.com/EXCELFU-Natural-Connect-Fittings-Disconnect/dp/B07XYQ35GV/ref=asc_df_B07XYQ35GV/
To connect from the 3/8 fuel hose to the disconnect you need this. www.amazon.com/SUNGATOR-Brass-Fitting-Adapter-2-Pack/dp/B07MTQLFQC/ref=pd_lpo_2
From the regulator to the disconnect you need this. www.amazon.com/LASCO-17-4831-8-Inch-Thread-Adapter/dp/B008E5CIO4
You can usually get these locally for less than Amazon at an ace hardware or other hardware store. Most quick disconnects have pipe threads but a few do not. So what you need for your application may vary but this will get you in the ball park.
@@theinfernalcraftsman You should do a video of just these parts installed. Figuring out how to adapt the propane regulator is more time consuming and frustrating than installing the carb...This was the first good video with links to the parts I need. Otherwise I was going to cut off the end of the reg hose and fasten that straight to the carb ferrule.
where did you hook up the regulator is this video? I don't see it. Thanks.
The high pressure regulator is on the hose assembly and mounts directly to the propane tank. The low pressure one is on the carb itself. It is the lower part of the carb. I think you are used to seeing the retrofit kits which use a forklift regulator which is a really big 6" diameter thing. The factory style tri fuel carbs use a far smaller and more compact assembly.
Actually the plate with the vacuum port is used for an automatic choke actuator
These carbs don't have automatic chokes but the California models have a charcoal canister like they have on riding mowers to capture the vapors.
How long does it run on a tank of propane?.
It will run around 6 hours at half load off of a typical BBQ tank. They are typically only filled with 15 pounds of propane which is 3.5 gallons of propane and typically costs $14-$20 to exchange. Here propane is running just over $3 a gallon from a real propane seller not an exchange kiosk. It's much cheaper to run off of natural gas. If you have larger propane tanks that you can have a propane company fill it's quite a bit cheaper.
The nice thing about these carbs is that it allows you to run any of the 3 fuels so you have alternatives and aren't stuck to just one fuel.
Why not just use the original black carb motor insulator piece?
You can reuse the original. My only issue is with the possibility of warpage of the old one. Well that and the new one didn't need gasket material scraped off of it...