Great discussion of the two specialization choices at 7:00. People get too wrapped up in the idea of only one way to do things and forget that equipment and field mods allow us to tailor the tank to our play style.
Yeah, but field mods are one-dimensional, with the added catch of making some aspects worse, so someone wants to have their tank as flexible as they can with two different sets of equipment field mods might kinda counter that.
I like having a second build but sometimes it takes forever to unlock the field mods and a lot of credits to build it out. I don't often have millions of credits to stockpile extra equipment or to buy it as I unlock new tanks. I think it is very valuable though.
That is clearly the case where poverty causes poverty. Literally. When you spare the credits and buy all your consumables and equipment for half a price, you have more credits left for buying tanks and modules.
QB, I actually have to thank you in regards to the second equipment builds. After Equipment 2.0 and the modifications came out, I never used them. I just didn't see the need, because I tried to set up my tanks with a "one build fits all" kind of style. However, I believe it was maybe a year or two ago now, you released a video stating the importance of the second build and switching it between maps to fit your playstyle and help the team. After that, I tried unlocking the field mods on as many of my tanks as I can. I still have a loooooong way to go, but your advice has helped me improve in the game. I'm just a casual player, but by showing me how to set up certain vehicles and explaining the importance of a second build, I have a lot more fun now than I did before.
I feel like I must go optics because I do not use a premium consumable. For me it's not about spotting my enemies at decent distances (like QB often says) but to spot them before they spot me. Obviously the other two slots will always be vents and a gun rammer (if applicable). But in the end anyone can take whatever they want, it's a game and it's about fun!
exactly. P2w players can make much more use of the second equipment build, because they don't need to use Coated Optics in the first place and are therefore much less pressured when it comes to choosing what equipment to use.
@@robinkhn2547I have 2 accounts - "p2w" 😂 and a "f2p" and there is not much difference in performance in any tank, unless you run into super heavies, then you have to aim better and have a bit of luck for your penetration rolls... 3.2k recent on "p2w" account and around 2.8k on "f2p" just because I don't play much lately
@@nicoladegani2257 Have you actually played WoT? Of course there is p2w. Agreed, it is not huge, but p2w is still there. If you are a p2w player (as in you have a premium account), then you can afford to use rations which gives you a boost of 10% to all crew perks, meaning you have better dpm, accuracy, camo, etc. Plus you can afford to shoot a lot more gold rounds. Plus the strongest tanks in the game are mostly premium tanks, such as the BZ-176. And don't even get me started on WoT Plus, where you can passively train your crew without even being logged into the game. So yes, WoT is p2w, and to say otherwise is blatant ignorance.
@@robinkhn2547 lately im not buying the premium and i still use food, directive and shoot gold (and when i ran out of credits i just farm them). I somewhat agree with u about the bz, but still, put a bad player in it and he will still achieve below 50% win rate, so its not that pay to win
On my heavy tanks I rarely use an alternate build, though I typically have one ammo loadout with low and one with high premium ammo amount that I choose depending on how much heavy armor the enemy team has. The tank class where I use different builds by far the most is light tanks, followed by medium tanks. Typically I have a fighter build and a vision build for each tank, though with some tanks I have an optional speed build (featuring a turbo) instead.
12:40 there's still a lot of people with barely enough credits to fully equip their tanks with one full set of equipment, how would they be able to use a second set in that case. Anyway thanks for the cool video, I am using this medium tank as scout trick for a long time now and I really enjoy it.
running a full spotting/camo build on the second slot is so much fun on the borrasque, have essentially an extra light tank on your team can do so much. especially if there are no lights to begin with in the match
you are not wrong sir - even without the exhaust system you can get the bourrasque to nearly 43% camo/34% moving while running improved vents, bounty optics and CVS. Even in tier 10 battles you become a very powerful light tank. I have had some of my best games in the bourrasque as a bottom tier tank when there are no light tanks in the battle. Base view range in this setup is 490 so you have vision control all over the scouting favorable maps. The biggest challenge is staying alive because any mistake at tier 9 or 10 often leaves you dead in less than 10 seconds
I run Camo/Binos on my American turreted TDs as a secondary. There's no point in not having them and sometimes the map and team makeup point to that being the optimal setup. Super Hellcat, Hellcat, T25/2, Jackson, etc all benefit from having the extra camo and view range for themselves.
The bit you didn't say. Is that the CVS has to go in the scouting slot and there is no second scouting slot for the exhaust so.... you HAVE to have a bounty exhaust to be worth it..
Taking this "terrible equipment" on something like the UDES 15/16 is actually nuts on certain maps. That tank can hold up to some LTs in regards to camo and spotting.
I dont use the 2nd equipment slot because I dont have an extra million credits per tank to waste. As a below average player without a premium account it is basically impossible for me to have 2 slots on a few tanks.
I use CVS, Vert stabs, Vents on my STA-2, since I started to use it my spotting improved, a lot and because of that I started to have even better games.
my favourite set up is turbo, vert stabs, and rammer for 80% of all tanks but in the end it's just a game so every once in a while I switch things up a little :)
The problem with your reasoning is that your "setup" is working in spite of the setup. If you play a good position for any given matchup, it's going to work whether you have the right setup, the wrong setup, or no setup at all. There are people who 3 mark LTs with no ammo. Does that mean it's better to play with no ammo? Hardening/rammer/vstab has become the new vents/rammer/vstab. The only variations you'll see on this are: 1. Tanks with < .1 on their traverse that gain more benefit dropping vstab for IAU. 2. Superheavies/ram meme builds that double up hardening and turbo. 3. Autoloaders that can't use rammers. 4. Light tanks and arty. 5. Pseudo lights like Bourrasque that can use full LT setup. 6. TDs that cannot vstab. The equipment rework, despite its best intentions, has really done nothing to break the cookie cutter builds this game suffers from. It just shuffled the deck and created additional p2w monetization opportunities and another dual pay/playwall for new players via bounty, bond and experimental.
Most of the casual players who do have 2 set ups will often only have 1 different equipment spot - because of cost. Half a million credits is not a small amount for players who play with a surplus of less than a couple of million if not researching a line. The usual difference in two set ups is which equipment goes in the first slot; which replaces vents? Sometimes vents is first on both, and then it is a case of which specialist equipment do you take instead of a generic piece. Few players could justify changing out 2 slots for certain situations.
or because other things are useless... I play Bourrasque with Vents, Stabs and IRM or Vents, Stabs and CVS (other than CVS everything is bond/bounty) so it's not that I don't want to spend credits, but there aren't many other usable options that would benefit for most of the tanks...
@@denistvarog4053I play bourrasque with optics, IRM in mobility slot and bond vstab. Alternative is optics, exhaust, cvs, but with this setup, it turns worse and gun is awful, long aim with large dispersion on the move and after the first shot are horror. Despite that I played passive scout against tanks going down from malinovka hill and occasionally fired. In 14 minutes game I managed to have 4 kills, nearly 4k spot and 3.5k damage and it was 1750xp game
@@denistvarog4053I agree that on most tanks you need rammer and vstab and then it's hit points , optics or mobility. Some people are choosing vents. On TDs IA and IRM can be viable to boost accuracy and target acquisition time.
I feel like people don't use the equipment loadouts because you pay double the credits. I don't play WoT. So I don't know. But I do know that I would only put double equipment on a few of my ships in WoWs, if I have to pay the credits for two loadouts.
That's the beauty of having different setup options, if you can make a setup work for you then it's not bad. Though I personally would never use vents on many of the tanks qb uses
why not, though? I think it is often a valid argument to improve your tank in all aspects a little bit instead of boosting only statistic. All-round performance means better adaptation to multiple scenarios.
@@robinkhn2547with so many tanks in the game, most tanks I play only because they are the best in a certain area. I want to min max those aspects to have the most fun, not just be a jack of all trades in every tank I play.
Statistically, vent is the best, only "your feeling" can feel it, because it only effect in long run, not a certain situation. You regret sometime that if you have rammer, you can do 1 more shot, but you cannot feel the better when you have 3% more accurate + 3% reload speed + 3% aim speed + 3% rotation speed + 3% accelerate + 3% view range + 3% camo from skill. After crew skill update all the crew skill effect by vent too. That is huge improve.
Like I said already, that's the beauty of having different setup options. Some prefer improving only one aspect of the tank more, other prefer improving all aspects but less. There is no right or wrong answer, depends on playstyle and preference. I've experimented for myself with vents and with a gun rammer, turbo or other piece of equipment instead of vents and found out it works better for my average results even if statistically vents is supposed to be better
Great argument, in the end what someone does with his tank is a highly personal matter and if a tank has decent camo it would be a shame not to take advantage of it. On top of that being a spotter is some of the most rewarding yet difficult things to do in the game and doing it in a medium is all the more exciting
bro, his Lion deals less damage than what a unicum playing Bourrasque would, there's no world where you can justify having sub 3k dpg with a tier 10. One single equipment choice can be a personal matter, an entire setup is not.
@@mathiassalgado4683 it would be pointless having optics without CVS as it would be pointless having CVS without optics, a full setup is needed as the camo without exaust is trash
because this setup is just bad, I'm talking about choosing vents/IA/IRM/etc for certain vehicles. If he wants to boycott his own tanks, cool, just don't sell it as some sort of alternative high performance setup, bcz it is not.
I'm glad I'm not the only person who does this, I've been doing it for atleast over the last year or two. Mostly on my tier 8-10 mediums that are either auto(re)loaders or just all-rounders for the same situation. but whilst these builds are more commonly viable, I'll admit there's one for tanks with 20km speeds and less that turns tanks for easily flanked into rotating machines, but the slower, the better. it's rotation device, grousers and turbo with fuel and it's revolutionary to my t95
If wargaming wants people to use the field mods more then let a player grind the field mods once they have researched all the modules for a tank and before they have grinded for the next tier tank(s) connected to that tank. Field mods are only useful for prem tanks and tier ten for most people.
The thing is qb (if you see that comment), people say that your equipment setups are shit but trust my words, we're all happy to see you enrolling limited people with your "special" setups to be polite because it makes the farming of bots even easier so we salute you, ty for your service PS: and this comment wasn't even sarcastic, it's the reality
Main reason for no dual builds is the cost, yeah. Even trading one equipment for the second build is 15000 on sale, and that's 150 not spent on consumables, new tanks, etc. Unless Wargaming makes it easier to gain credits, or gave us more ways to grind specifically credits like a PVE wave defense mode that only gives credits and no XP, it will remain this way forever.
As F2P player I spent some bonds to get the Lorr.40t and M41/90/GF to have some T8 premiums; they're also fun to play, cheap to repair and make decent credits.
I know this is a T10 discussion mostly, but mid tiers love the option. I tend to run my "keeper" T6s with two sets of equipment. One for bottom tier and one for top tier. At top tier you set up to absolutely bully your opponents, for bottom tier you set up to support/survive as best as possible. There's nothing worse than a T6 heavy in a T8 game, so set it up to spot, survive, or just be useful support.
As the second setup was introduced in game , I immadietly started to use spotting second builds for meds. After that sooo many ppl just was sending me hatemails because "I cheat" in game to hit them without spotting them , they doesn't realize most of the times they were continously spptted.
For me, this game is about vision control... spotting and remaining unspotted. I take CVS and exhaust on many of my mediums, initially as a secondary loadout, but increasingly, it's my default loadout. There seem to be so many battles deficient of light tanks these days, and it's so easy to step up to that role if required. Even if your team has a light tank, it's not unusual for them to be dead within the first few minutes, again offering up the opportunity to take over. I've become used to living without V.Stabs on most mediums, although I have them for maps where CVS and exhaust simply don't make sense. My only problem with this video is that you're giving away our secrets...!!! ;)
I would love to use the 2nd set but well, I am waaaay to poor to do it. I barely have enough credits to have equipment on all my tanks to begin with, not to mention two.
Great explanation of your thought process. Gives me some things to think about. I’m an average player - I think about the second load out when I’m low tier. Appreciate thinking about being a scout when there are no lights.
QB, I actually try to use second build, but it's very expansive for casual player like me. I'm not always here when there are discount on equipments. The other reason I don't use it on each vehicule, is when I play I have only 2 or 3 seconds to decide which build to choose, my connection and computer are not as good as it should be, in that way the first build is construted like a one build, but the second is made for moments I have time to choose and a map where the second build is better. I don't know if it can explain why many people don't use the second build, but it's mine.
It's too expensive. Unless you are a sweaty nerd and/or affluent, it's way too resource demanding to have have an extra set of equipment. I would have used the extra setup if I could.
You say people should use their second build, but personally, one of the main reasons I don't is simple because I never looked further into it🤔 I'm not even sure weither I want to use kit that compensate for my tank weaknesses or kit that enhances its strength. I have a basic understanding of most systems in the game, but it's one gigantic mess. There's too much going on and good information is always buried under a lot of useless carp. You probably no longer notice, because you basically live inside WoT's garage, but the learning curve is deceptively harsh. Now if a youtuber, long time Wot player [wink wink], were to make a series of tutorial videos [nudge nudge] covering all the things newcomers have to learn [hint hint], that would be a great help.
QB: People don't use the 2nd set of equipment because you need 1.8 MILLION CREDITS PER TANK!!!!! Besides my ALL TIME FAVORITE tier 8's and the LION, I have like 3 million credits as I SCRAPE up the tech trees. For average players, it's just a waste of credits
@@Duckman1616Did you watch it? WG sais barely anyone is using it. Qb is wondering why. 90% of players are average. Most just cant afford it. Or dont have field mods because they use their time to grind Techtree Tanks.
@@SieNennenMichTeufel Of the top 10 most played tanks in the last 60 days, 5 were premium and two more were reward vehicles. So either a tiny number of people who own premiums are playing thousands of games a month and inflating the numbers or the average player is out there grinding premiums.
I mean isn't that the point of having multiple Loadout slots, so you CAN have different builds depending on the Map in question. Plus its always fun to try "different" ways to play besides "THE META!". Everyone in world of Warships LOVES doing Secondary Builds on their ships.
My criticism of your equipment selection is solely based on your insistence on using vents, because their effect is negligible (particularly considering how they're typically half as effective as stated due to the skill system) and they're usually not one of the top 3 best equipment choices for any setup (even under the old equipment system, but especially now that there are even more viable choices for every tank.)
I'd completely zoned on these and just went back an turned off Accelerated Crew Training on everything to get the field mods and second set of equipment. I definitely noticed the lack of a camo net on the alternate setup for my Rheinmetal Borsig (something I changed immediately after the battle on that setup 😄)
I'm fully F2P and cannot afford too many alternate builds, but on my high tier tanks I typically have a 'pay2win' loadout with food and a directive, and usually more gold ammo than I would normally carry. When hitting a suitable map for that tank I can indulge, it does really help to win more games and thus the credit loss is not too bad.
I'm using the new Experimental Turbo (mobility improvement system) upgraded to tier 3 (8% engine pwer, 6% turret traverse, 5km/h top speed, 3km/h reverse) and the Commanders Vision System on my Progetto 65 for open maps like this, I don't remember my third one. For city maps, I use Improved Hardening and Vents I think, I don't remember my third, for the Progetto 65, just to have 2 different builds for that maps I am playing on and it's nice.
There is no point to argue wich equipment is the most usefull. Every player plays differently and thus every piece of equipment has different value to different players. For example on most tanks i dont use gunrammer, because of my passive and defencive playstyle i dont see the point of reducing the reload of a gun buy 0.6 seconds or less. I will rather improve accuracy.
@@le_pera9582no. He just realized the obvious: to profit from a rammer u need to shot the gun constantly on cooldown. If u dont so this the rammer ist completely useless and a wasted slot. If u improve aiming instead it affects ANY shot u take.
On some of my meds I started to use commander’s vision for maps like fisherman’s bay or Westfield, it clearly is a game changer but I always find the exhaust too extreme and doesn’t fit my playstyle.
You wanna know why some people don't use the 2 equipment options... credits. I am a slightly better than trash player who only plays 3-4 hrs a week. I have 3 T10 tanks researched that I can't afford and 600k credits. I just can't afford to put 2 sets of equipment on my tanks. Even the ones I love.
QB - I don't know where you said it because I was listening to this particular upload on my TV behind me while playing Master of Orion on my Computer in front of me and I'm not going to waste time trying to find the time stamp; but you said Wargaming stated that most players don't use the second setup for equipment configuration. THAT'S THE RUB!!! I hadn't played WOT in years and am now just getting back into it because of your Quickybaby Commander gift drop for watching your Anniversary Stream (thank you very much!). I (probably like many) DON'T KNOW HOW TO EVEN CREATE A SECOND EQUIPMENT CONFIGURATION FOR A TANK!!! The only configuration option I have at the beginning of any battle is which tank to pick for the battle! There is NO Equipment configuration option because for me, it still doesn't exist! PLEASE HELP, and stop presuming everybody knows how to do it already. Every time you mention it in a video, you never provide a link to where you might have already discussed it and that just adds to the frustration. Love ya, love ya, love ya! You provide so much information already! Thank you!
My highest scouting game was in a medium, the Kunze Panzer, on Prokhorovka. There were no light tanks so I took a set up like this. Just above 19K spotting So yeah it’s worth having a load out like this
25,000 games in and i only have second equipment builds on about 10 tanks. I have 43 tier 10 tanks, 22 left to buy. Even if i can save up for a sale, thats 40 million credits on equipment i could use on buying a third of the tanks ive had unlocked for a year now but haven't got round to grinding the credits for. In reality by the time i buy consumables on sale and set up the t8 premiums i grind credits on and my favourite tier 9s with a second set its probably going to be another years and 5k games before i can kit everything out the way id like. WOT plus and building up a stockpile of bounty and experimental equipment has at least let me swap out one bit of equipment on a lot of tanks - like having either a turbo or hardening on many heavies, but at the end of the day, the credit grind is the real problem for me.
These " Elite Players" says the average player is the problem in the game but they are the real problem, they only blame people for no reason they think they are always right and everyone else is wrong fr if you are one of these type of players just shut up no one wants to hear you blaming people for no reason
Why are not more players using the alternative equipment slot. Because most players cant afford it. I have loads of tanks I play, some with only one or two equipments. Couldnt possibly afford to put two builds on my tanks.
no EQ is terrible/useless if you can make it work to your advantage and you get good result in it. the only area ppl can complain about you is if you play like s*** or not. play terribly and playing using terrible EQ/loadout is 2 completely different things.
People don't use the second equipment slot because they can't afford the credits, simple. If You an average or below player without premium account, but You do use some premium ammo and maybe consumable to stay relevant ish in battle, well then You are starved of credits.
Reason people don't really use it is because only a few tanks people "enjoy" don't benefit from a 2nd equipment setup to play their tank when it doesn't do much of a benefit as you express in this video.
The only mistake I see in this video is you not using the designated target directive which gets buffed by vents, BIA and food. If you also have the perk it adds up to a total of 5,5 seconds extra spotting time.
who cares what people say about tha bad equipment, "If it's stupid but it's works, it ain't stupid " you an TheMightyJingles have made me a decently good WOT player. Keep going QBaby ❤
I nearly never use the second equipment, because I'm not playing that much at the moment and am not using my premium time, I get from BP etc very efficiently... So I'm pretty much down on credits and want to get the tanks I'm missing first 😅 so not enough credits for rly thinking about equipment... I know, it's not the best idea, but I still have fun 😂
That is why I cringe each time when QB says "you don't need to use optics on this tank". The vision is so important in this game, I max it out on pretty much every tank I am playing. And between view range and gun handling I do prefer view range.
I was a little confused because I remember the same tank and map, but you were south pushing north instead. I thought the video was flipped for some reason!
I think it's a shame the 2nd equipment setup is locked behind field mods which require elite tanks. I'd love to have a 2nd equip set on my light tanks as I move up the tree.
In my case I don't use a lot 2nd equip because I play a lot of tanks to grind the tree, and so neither I have unlock field mods or neither I own so many equipments to have more than one set on every tank
i have more fun watching this channel than any other wot cc. keep it up qb you may not be the one of the so called best out there, but you are the most entertaining in regards to content and commentary.
We can't thank you enough for tricking below average players into playing questionable gear sets. It's always fun for us (me as well) to destroy an entire team of paid actors.
Alot of good players actually adapted to a CVS/CVS + Low Noise on squishy glass cannon mediums! Recently 100% marked my Leopard 1 and CVS + Low Noise helped me carry games on open maps very much being able to spot on your own, not having to rely on your scouts! HOWEVER I very much disagree with BS like E-50M/AMX 50B HP, Spallliner, Turbo thats just straight up trolling but i guess QB knows himself... 😂
They are not terrible equipments, I wouldnt be using them on a Lion though. I would take hp as alternative for big and soft med like Prog, TVP, Leo, etc; and vision build for sneakier med like bc, udes, etc.
Ive used your "weird" setups on many of my tanks, and they work, so i always say people can just piss off when they start being hyper critical of it lol.
Just cause they "work" doesnt mean theyre good, u can play a tank without eq and it can work, just use normal eq and stop roleplaying a light tank every game u get the chance
The fieldmods are useless on non-tier 10 and non-premiums since I am just grinding to get the next tank, and I don't have credits to buy equipment for all my tanks if I also want to buy new tanks I grinded for...
If you can't stand -13 reverse speed on a MT, if you can't stand that moon-sized bloom on a MT, and you don't want to have a huge chance of getting a free garage ticket in the 1st minute of the battle for playing super aggressively while your tank is not capable of doing so, then just don't put an Exhaust on your Lion, don't use that +3% camo from Lv5 Field Mod, and don't try to play in LT positions. This tank is neither sneaky nor fast enough for that. The chance of getting actual spotting map without LTs is small. The chance of getting actual spotting map without LTs & MTs that can outspot the Lion is even smaller. You can have a 2nd set with V.Stab + CVS + Vents for Fisherman's Bay where you can spot through the bush safely. But other than that, just do what the tank does best, hulldown when the situation allows and snipe when you can't be aggressive. Nothing too crazy, nothing too extraordinary, but it's consistent and it doesn't make you smash your keyboard while screaming.
This again proves how obsolete light tanks have become at high tiers, especially tier X. Sure, light tanks still might be best for maps like Prokhorovka, but on most other maps a medium tank set up with a scouting build can basically take over the role of a light tank without sacrificing the massive damage dealing potential a medium tank has over a light tank. High tier light tanks really need a buff, or better yet, every other class needs to get their view range nerfed massively. Like how come that even heavy tanks get better view range than light tanks? It's ridiculous. Furthermore, CVS should be an equipment, which only light tanks are able to use, to make them more relevant. And regarding to 12:36, for f2p-players the second set of equipment is less usable, because unlike p2w players we need to use coated optics. So that means we have much less room for variation of equipment, because basically coated optics is always a must.
Because the saturated of view range and camo, there are more and more things help MT get that saturate state now that LT cannot have any advantage except the moving camo.
When you have over 250 tanks, having 2 builds on each is insane. That's why, in the WG stats, people don't use the second build. I play 30 different tanks in 2 daqys, and they are allways other tanks then the previous 2-3 days, so for me, I would have to grind 2 months on daily bassis, at least 4 hours/day, just tio farm the credits for that second build, on all the tanks, and WITH THE WARGAMING NERF OF CREDITS INCOME IN THE LAST 2 YEARS, that would not be easy or fun, and I AM REALLY BURNED OUT BY THE FVCKING MARATHON, to have fun grinding so much any more.
Wargaming says that most players aren't even using second sets of equipment? I'm guessing that's because a lot of casual players simply don't have field mods ground out on the majority of their tanks.
Great discussion of the two specialization choices at 7:00. People get too wrapped up in the idea of only one way to do things and forget that equipment and field mods allow us to tailor the tank to our play style.
Yeah, but field mods are one-dimensional, with the added catch of making some aspects worse, so someone wants to have their tank as flexible as they can with two different sets of equipment field mods might kinda counter that.
Not only that, But you can tailor the aspects of thee tank you enjoy to use. Not necessarily the best for the match.
As Jingles would say, if it’s stupid but it works, it’s not stupid. Some of these builds may not be for everyone, but can work for someone
I don't say that mate
I can't even tell the difference if I have equipment or not. You think the majority of the playerbase can?
Dam you just call QB stupid... 🤣
@@wherearemytesticlesI make try T34-3 with and without imroved aiming and vert stabs
I like having a second build but sometimes it takes forever to unlock the field mods and a lot of credits to build it out. I don't often have millions of credits to stockpile extra equipment or to buy it as I unlock new tanks. I think it is very valuable though.
That is clearly the case where poverty causes poverty. Literally.
When you spare the credits and buy all your consumables and equipment for half a price, you have more credits left for buying tanks and modules.
QB, I actually have to thank you in regards to the second equipment builds. After Equipment 2.0 and the modifications came out, I never used them. I just didn't see the need, because I tried to set up my tanks with a "one build fits all" kind of style. However, I believe it was maybe a year or two ago now, you released a video stating the importance of the second build and switching it between maps to fit your playstyle and help the team. After that, I tried unlocking the field mods on as many of my tanks as I can. I still have a loooooong way to go, but your advice has helped me improve in the game. I'm just a casual player, but by showing me how to set up certain vehicles and explaining the importance of a second build, I have a lot more fun now than I did before.
I feel like I must go optics because I do not use a premium consumable. For me it's not about spotting my enemies at decent distances (like QB often says) but to spot them before they spot me. Obviously the other two slots will always be vents and a gun rammer (if applicable). But in the end anyone can take whatever they want, it's a game and it's about fun!
exactly. P2w players can make much more use of the second equipment build, because they don't need to use Coated Optics in the first place and are therefore much less pressured when it comes to choosing what equipment to use.
@@robinkhn2547I have 2 accounts - "p2w" 😂 and a "f2p" and there is not much difference in performance in any tank, unless you run into super heavies, then you have to aim better and have a bit of luck for your penetration rolls... 3.2k recent on "p2w" account and around 2.8k on "f2p" just because I don't play much lately
@@robinkhn2547 why u choose to say "pay to win" players when in wot there is no such as thing as "pay to win" as other games; its pay to progress.
@@nicoladegani2257 Have you actually played WoT? Of course there is p2w. Agreed, it is not huge, but p2w is still there. If you are a p2w player (as in you have a premium account), then you can afford to use rations which gives you a boost of 10% to all crew perks, meaning you have better dpm, accuracy, camo, etc. Plus you can afford to shoot a lot more gold rounds.
Plus the strongest tanks in the game are mostly premium tanks, such as the BZ-176.
And don't even get me started on WoT Plus, where you can passively train your crew without even being logged into the game.
So yes, WoT is p2w, and to say otherwise is blatant ignorance.
@@robinkhn2547 lately im not buying the premium and i still use food, directive and shoot gold (and when i ran out of credits i just farm them). I somewhat agree with u about the bz, but still, put a bad player in it and he will still achieve below 50% win rate, so its not that pay to win
On my heavy tanks I rarely use an alternate build, though I typically have one ammo loadout with low and one with high premium ammo amount that I choose depending on how much heavy armor the enemy team has.
The tank class where I use different builds by far the most is light tanks, followed by medium tanks. Typically I have a fighter build and a vision build for each tank, though with some tanks I have an optional speed build (featuring a turbo) instead.
12:40 there's still a lot of people with barely enough credits to fully equip their tanks with one full set of equipment, how would they be able to use a second set in that case. Anyway thanks for the cool video, I am using this medium tank as scout trick for a long time now and I really enjoy it.
And Xp.
I like your argument at 9:00 because after all, this is a TEAM GAME, and a lot of people forget that.
running a full spotting/camo build on the second slot is so much fun on the borrasque, have essentially an extra light tank on your team can do so much. especially if there are no lights to begin with in the match
you are not wrong sir - even without the exhaust system you can get the bourrasque to nearly 43% camo/34% moving while running improved vents, bounty optics and CVS. Even in tier 10 battles you become a very powerful light tank. I have had some of my best games in the bourrasque as a bottom tier tank when there are no light tanks in the battle. Base view range in this setup is 490 so you have vision control all over the scouting favorable maps. The biggest challenge is staying alive because any mistake at tier 9 or 10 often leaves you dead in less than 10 seconds
I run Camo/Binos on my American turreted TDs as a secondary. There's no point in not having them and sometimes the map and team makeup point to that being the optimal setup. Super Hellcat, Hellcat, T25/2, Jackson, etc all benefit from having the extra camo and view range for themselves.
The bit you didn't say. Is that the CVS has to go in the scouting slot and there is no second scouting slot for the exhaust so.... you HAVE to have a bounty exhaust to be worth it..
Does it have to go into the scouting slot? Sure you lose some ‘power’ but you don’t have to?
Taking this "terrible equipment" on something like the UDES 15/16 is actually nuts on certain maps. That tank can hold up to some LTs in regards to camo and spotting.
I think QB has good ideas on what equipment to take because he said that a type 5 should use a turbo and now my type 5 is fast
I saw the title and I thought he was going to explain his vents obsession 😅
If only, man. If only.
I dont use the 2nd equipment slot because I dont have an extra million credits per tank to waste. As a below average player without a premium account it is basically impossible for me to have 2 slots on a few tanks.
I love to use the second set of equipment. I get more spotting in my mediums with cvs and exhaust than in my lights
I use CVS, Vert stabs, Vents on my STA-2, since I started to use it my spotting improved, a lot and because of that I started to have even better games.
A verified channel on QB's Channel? And not even WoT content? I must be dreaming!
@@bonehunter9766 u never know, maybe next time u see Post Malone streaming WOT
my favourite set up is turbo, vert stabs, and rammer for 80% of all tanks but in the end it's just a game so every once in a while I switch things up a little :)
The problem with your reasoning is that your "setup" is working in spite of the setup. If you play a good position for any given matchup, it's going to work whether you have the right setup, the wrong setup, or no setup at all. There are people who 3 mark LTs with no ammo. Does that mean it's better to play with no ammo?
Hardening/rammer/vstab has become the new vents/rammer/vstab. The only variations you'll see on this are:
1. Tanks with < .1 on their traverse that gain more benefit dropping vstab for IAU.
2. Superheavies/ram meme builds that double up hardening and turbo.
3. Autoloaders that can't use rammers.
4. Light tanks and arty.
5. Pseudo lights like Bourrasque that can use full LT setup.
6. TDs that cannot vstab.
The equipment rework, despite its best intentions, has really done nothing to break the cookie cutter builds this game suffers from. It just shuffled the deck and created additional p2w monetization opportunities and another dual pay/playwall for new players via bounty, bond and experimental.
Most of the casual players who do have 2 set ups will often only have 1 different equipment spot - because of cost. Half a million credits is not a small amount for players who play with a surplus of less than a couple of million if not researching a line. The usual difference in two set ups is which equipment goes in the first slot; which replaces vents? Sometimes vents is first on both, and then it is a case of which specialist equipment do you take instead of a generic piece. Few players could justify changing out 2 slots for certain situations.
or because other things are useless... I play Bourrasque with Vents, Stabs and IRM or Vents, Stabs and CVS (other than CVS everything is bond/bounty) so it's not that I don't want to spend credits, but there aren't many other usable options that would benefit for most of the tanks...
@@denistvarog4053I play bourrasque with optics, IRM in mobility slot and bond vstab. Alternative is optics, exhaust, cvs, but with this setup, it turns worse and gun is awful, long aim with large dispersion on the move and after the first shot are horror. Despite that I played passive scout against tanks going down from malinovka hill and occasionally fired. In 14 minutes game I managed to have 4 kills, nearly 4k spot and 3.5k damage and it was 1750xp game
@@denistvarog4053I agree that on most tanks you need rammer and vstab and then it's hit points , optics or mobility. Some people are choosing vents. On TDs IA and IRM can be viable to boost accuracy and target acquisition time.
I feel like people don't use the equipment loadouts because you pay double the credits. I don't play WoT. So I don't know. But I do know that I would only put double equipment on a few of my ships in WoWs, if I have to pay the credits for two loadouts.
That's the beauty of having different setup options, if you can make a setup work for you then it's not bad. Though I personally would never use vents on many of the tanks qb uses
why not, though? I think it is often a valid argument to improve your tank in all aspects a little bit instead of boosting only statistic. All-round performance means better adaptation to multiple scenarios.
@@robinkhn2547with so many tanks in the game, most tanks I play only because they are the best in a certain area. I want to min max those aspects to have the most fun, not just be a jack of all trades in every tank I play.
Statistically, vent is the best, only "your feeling" can feel it, because it only effect in long run, not a certain situation.
You regret sometime that if you have rammer, you can do 1 more shot, but you cannot feel the better when you have 3% more accurate + 3% reload speed + 3% aim speed + 3% rotation speed + 3% accelerate + 3% view range + 3% camo from skill. After crew skill update all the crew skill effect by vent too. That is huge improve.
Like I said already, that's the beauty of having different setup options. Some prefer improving only one aspect of the tank more, other prefer improving all aspects but less. There is no right or wrong answer, depends on playstyle and preference. I've experimented for myself with vents and with a gun rammer, turbo or other piece of equipment instead of vents and found out it works better for my average results even if statistically vents is supposed to be better
@@robinkhn2547 because the effect of vents is minor and it's usually not one of the top 3 best equipment choices for any setup.
Great argument, in the end what someone does with his tank is a highly personal matter and if a tank has decent camo it would be a shame not to take advantage of it. On top of that being a spotter is some of the most rewarding yet difficult things to do in the game and doing it in a medium is all the more exciting
complete copium
bro, his Lion deals less damage than what a unicum playing Bourrasque would, there's no world where you can justify having sub 3k dpg with a tier 10. One single equipment choice can be a personal matter, an entire setup is not.
@@mathiassalgado4683 it would be pointless having optics without CVS as it would be pointless having CVS without optics, a full setup is needed as the camo without exaust is trash
@@mathiassalgado4683 3k dpg is not the whole game, he did 10k combined, that's a great match for any tank in the game
because this setup is just bad, I'm talking about choosing vents/IA/IRM/etc for certain vehicles. If he wants to boycott his own tanks, cool, just don't sell it as some sort of alternative high performance setup, bcz it is not.
I'm glad I'm not the only person who does this, I've been doing it for atleast over the last year or two. Mostly on my tier 8-10 mediums that are either auto(re)loaders or just all-rounders for the same situation. but whilst these builds are more commonly viable, I'll admit there's one for tanks with 20km speeds and less that turns tanks for easily flanked into rotating machines, but the slower, the better. it's rotation device, grousers and turbo with fuel and it's revolutionary to my t95
If wargaming wants people to use the field mods more then let a player grind the field mods once they have researched all the modules for a tank and before they have grinded for the next tier tank(s) connected to that tank. Field mods are only useful for prem tanks and tier ten for most people.
The thing is qb (if you see that comment), people say that your equipment setups are shit but trust my words, we're all happy to see you enrolling limited people with your "special" setups to be polite because it makes the farming of bots even easier so we salute you, ty for your service
PS: and this comment wasn't even sarcastic, it's the reality
Main reason for no dual builds is the cost, yeah. Even trading one equipment for the second build is 15000 on sale, and that's 150 not spent on consumables, new tanks, etc. Unless Wargaming makes it easier to gain credits, or gave us more ways to grind specifically credits like a PVE wave defense mode that only gives credits and no XP, it will remain this way forever.
As F2P player I spent some bonds to get the Lorr.40t and M41/90/GF to have some T8 premiums; they're also fun to play, cheap to repair and make decent credits.
I mean, they want you to buy credits with real money. Thats the whole point
@@SieNennenMichTeufel QB said he had a chat with WG and.. was told to make this video so people spend more credits and pay for premium
I know this is a T10 discussion mostly, but mid tiers love the option. I tend to run my "keeper" T6s with two sets of equipment. One for bottom tier and one for top tier. At top tier you set up to absolutely bully your opponents, for bottom tier you set up to support/survive as best as possible. There's nothing worse than a T6 heavy in a T8 game, so set it up to spot, survive, or just be useful support.
As the second setup was introduced in game , I immadietly started to use spotting second builds for meds. After that sooo many ppl just was sending me hatemails because "I cheat" in game to hit them without spotting them , they doesn't realize most of the times they were continously spptted.
For me, this game is about vision control... spotting and remaining unspotted. I take CVS and exhaust on many of my mediums, initially as a secondary loadout, but increasingly, it's my default loadout. There seem to be so many battles deficient of light tanks these days, and it's so easy to step up to that role if required. Even if your team has a light tank, it's not unusual for them to be dead within the first few minutes, again offering up the opportunity to take over. I've become used to living without V.Stabs on most mediums, although I have them for maps where CVS and exhaust simply don't make sense. My only problem with this video is that you're giving away our secrets...!!! ;)
yes, qb is giving away the secrets to sub 50 wr
I have a similar setup for my UDES. It's hilarious how confused players get when there's no light tanks but they're being spotted by a phantom menace.
I would love to use the 2nd set but well, I am waaaay to poor to do it. I barely have enough credits to have equipment on all my tanks to begin with, not to mention two.
Great explanation of your thought process. Gives me some things to think about. I’m an average player - I think about the second load out when I’m low tier. Appreciate thinking about being a scout when there are no lights.
Ever since watch you play, I've always used the 2nd setup. one for the regular setup and another for the full cheese / fun /min-max setup.
QB, I actually try to use second build, but it's very expansive for casual player like me. I'm not always here when there are discount on equipments. The other reason I don't use it on each vehicule, is when I play I have only 2 or 3 seconds to decide which build to choose, my connection and computer are not as good as it should be, in that way the first build is construted like a one build, but the second is made for moments I have time to choose and a map where the second build is better. I don't know if it can explain why many people don't use the second build, but it's mine.
You not affording it is pure copium, how many creds you got, 20k? 30k?
It's too expensive. Unless you are a sweaty nerd and/or affluent, it's way too resource demanding to have have an extra set of equipment. I would have used the extra setup if I could.
You say people should use their second build, but personally, one of the main reasons I don't is simple because I never looked further into it🤔 I'm not even sure weither I want to use kit that compensate for my tank weaknesses or kit that enhances its strength.
I have a basic understanding of most systems in the game, but it's one gigantic mess. There's too much going on and good information is always buried under a lot of useless carp. You probably no longer notice, because you basically live inside WoT's garage, but the learning curve is deceptively harsh.
Now if a youtuber, long time Wot player [wink wink], were to make a series of tutorial videos [nudge nudge] covering all the things newcomers have to learn [hint hint], that would be a great help.
QB: People don't use the 2nd set of equipment because you need 1.8 MILLION CREDITS PER TANK!!!!!
Besides my ALL TIME FAVORITE tier 8's and the LION, I have like 3 million credits as I SCRAPE up the tech trees.
For average players, it's just a waste of credits
Average players aren't trying to get marks or worrying about maximising their performance. Did you even watch the video?
@@Duckman1616Did you watch it? WG sais barely anyone is using it. Qb is wondering why. 90% of players are average. Most just cant afford it. Or dont have field mods because they use their time to grind Techtree Tanks.
@@SieNennenMichTeufel Of the top 10 most played tanks in the last 60 days, 5 were premium and two more were reward vehicles. So either a tiny number of people who own premiums are playing thousands of games a month and inflating the numbers or the average player is out there grinding premiums.
Haha, I play nearly all my meds with those setups, even before QB did this video. I thought it’s a logic thing to do but apparently not.
I mean isn't that the point of having multiple Loadout slots, so you CAN have different builds depending on the Map in question. Plus its always fun to try "different" ways to play besides "THE META!". Everyone in world of Warships LOVES doing Secondary Builds on their ships.
My criticism of your equipment selection is solely based on your insistence on using vents, because their effect is negligible (particularly considering how they're typically half as effective as stated due to the skill system) and they're usually not one of the top 3 best equipment choices for any setup (even under the old equipment system, but especially now that there are even more viable choices for every tank.)
The only 2 tanks I have a separate spotting/camo build on are the k91 and the stg guard cuz they both already are very sneaky
I'd completely zoned on these and just went back an turned off Accelerated Crew Training on everything to get the field mods and second set of equipment.
I definitely noticed the lack of a camo net on the alternate setup for my Rheinmetal Borsig (something I changed immediately after the battle on that setup 😄)
I'm fully F2P and cannot afford too many alternate builds, but on my high tier tanks I typically have a 'pay2win' loadout with food and a directive, and usually more gold ammo than I would normally carry. When hitting a suitable map for that tank I can indulge, it does really help to win more games and thus the credit loss is not too bad.
The Lion is no house pussycat with a meow, it is the King with a mighty Roar. 🦁🤘
I'm using the new Experimental Turbo (mobility improvement system) upgraded to tier 3 (8% engine pwer, 6% turret traverse, 5km/h top speed, 3km/h reverse) and the Commanders Vision System on my Progetto 65 for open maps like this, I don't remember my third one. For city maps, I use Improved Hardening and Vents I think, I don't remember my third, for the Progetto 65, just to have 2 different builds for that maps I am playing on and it's nice.
There is no point to argue wich equipment is the most usefull. Every player plays differently and thus every piece of equipment has different value to different players. For example on most tanks i dont use gunrammer, because of my passive and defencive playstyle i dont see the point of reducing the reload of a gun buy 0.6 seconds or less. I will rather improve accuracy.
Camper playstyle
@@le_pera9582no. He just realized the obvious: to profit from a rammer u need to shot the gun constantly on cooldown. If u dont so this the rammer ist completely useless and a wasted slot. If u improve aiming instead it affects ANY shot u take.
This is why youre bad :)
On some of my meds I started to use commander’s vision for maps like fisherman’s bay or Westfield, it clearly is a game changer but I always find the exhaust too extreme and doesn’t fit my playstyle.
You wanna know why some people don't use the 2 equipment options... credits. I am a slightly better than trash player who only plays 3-4 hrs a week. I have 3 T10 tanks researched that I can't afford and 600k credits. I just can't afford to put 2 sets of equipment on my tanks. Even the ones I love.
QB - I don't know where you said it because I was listening to this particular upload on my TV behind me while playing Master of Orion on my Computer in front of me and I'm not going to waste time trying to find the time stamp; but you said Wargaming stated that most players don't use the second setup for equipment configuration. THAT'S THE RUB!!! I hadn't played WOT in years and am now just getting back into it because of your Quickybaby Commander gift drop for watching your Anniversary Stream (thank you very much!).
I (probably like many) DON'T KNOW HOW TO EVEN CREATE A SECOND EQUIPMENT CONFIGURATION FOR A TANK!!! The only configuration option I have at the beginning of any battle is which tank to pick for the battle! There is NO Equipment configuration option because for me, it still doesn't exist! PLEASE HELP, and stop presuming everybody knows how to do it already. Every time you mention it in a video, you never provide a link to where you might have already discussed it and that just adds to the frustration. Love ya, love ya, love ya! You provide so much information already! Thank you!
My highest scouting game was in a medium, the Kunze Panzer, on Prokhorovka. There were no light tanks so I took a set up like this.
Just above 19K spotting
So yeah it’s worth having a load out like this
I absolutely use those kind of setups for glass-cannon mediums. ESPECIALLY the ones in the tech tree that are utter dogs when stock.
25,000 games in and i only have second equipment builds on about 10 tanks. I have 43 tier 10 tanks, 22 left to buy. Even if i can save up for a sale, thats 40 million credits on equipment i could use on buying a third of the tanks ive had unlocked for a year now but haven't got round to grinding the credits for.
In reality by the time i buy consumables on sale and set up the t8 premiums i grind credits on and my favourite tier 9s with a second set its probably going to be another years and 5k games before i can kit everything out the way id like.
WOT plus and building up a stockpile of bounty and experimental equipment has at least let me swap out one bit of equipment on a lot of tanks - like having either a turbo or hardening on many heavies, but at the end of the day, the credit grind is the real problem for me.
These " Elite Players" says the average player is the problem in the game but they are the real problem, they only blame people for no reason they think they are always right and everyone else is wrong fr if you are one of these type of players just shut up no one wants to hear you blaming people for no reason
Why are not more players using the alternative equipment slot. Because most players cant afford it. I have loads of tanks I play, some with only one or two equipments. Couldnt possibly afford to put two builds on my tanks.
no EQ is terrible/useless if you can make it work to your advantage and you get good result in it. the only area ppl can complain about you is if you play like s*** or not.
play terribly and playing using terrible EQ/loadout is 2 completely different things.
People don't use the second equipment slot because they can't afford the credits, simple. If You an average or below player without premium account, but You do use some premium ammo and maybe consumable to stay relevant ish in battle, well then You are starved of credits.
Reason people don't really use it is because only a few tanks people "enjoy" don't benefit from a 2nd equipment setup to play their tank when it doesn't do much of a benefit as you express in this video.
The only mistake I see in this video is you not using the designated target directive which gets buffed by vents, BIA and food. If you also have the perk it adds up to a total of 5,5 seconds extra spotting time.
who cares what people say about tha bad equipment,
"If it's stupid but it's works, it ain't stupid "
you an TheMightyJingles have made me a decently good WOT player. Keep going QBaby ❤
glass canon medium tank "like the lion" xD ya sure, is that why its turret eats premium shells like nothing. example: 50B in second game.
Ive been told vents isnt that good anymore with the more specialized equipment, is this accurate?
I nearly never use the second equipment, because I'm not playing that much at the moment and am not using my premium time, I get from BP etc very efficiently... So I'm pretty much down on credits and want to get the tanks I'm missing first 😅 so not enough credits for rly thinking about equipment...
I know, it's not the best idea, but I still have fun 😂
To be fair some tank dont need second set of equipement .
I feel a big part of why most people don't use two equipment loadouts is that they simply don't have the credits or bonds to do so
You are the only ELITE WOT player IMO!
That is why I cringe each time when QB says "you don't need to use optics on this tank".
The vision is so important in this game, I max it out on pretty much every tank I am playing.
And between view range and gun handling I do prefer view range.
About time this is being elaborate
I was a little confused because I remember the same tank and map, but you were south pushing north instead. I thought the video was flipped for some reason!
QB, genuinely genius bro W
I think it's a shame the 2nd equipment setup is locked behind field mods which require elite tanks. I'd love to have a 2nd equip set on my light tanks as I move up the tree.
In my case I don't use a lot 2nd equip because I play a lot of tanks to grind the tree, and so neither I have unlock field mods or neither I own so many equipments to have more than one set on every tank
i myself use a cvs and exhaust on my char and udes 15/16 because those tanks have good base camo. only on campy maps though.
We believe in you qb good players like Iyouxin talks alot about you in positive way even about what ur talking about today
Is this new silhouette (edge line)of tanks that show which part of tanks is hidden in game or in your mode QB?
i have more fun watching this channel than any other wot cc. keep it up qb you may not be the one of the so called best out there, but you are the most entertaining in regards to content and commentary.
At the begining of the 2nd game, when he was firing first 3 shells, what was that triangle signal?
I havent played in like 6 yrs so I am curious ❤
I tend to not use the second set, becUse i don't have all the tanks, and am saving for several tier 10s.
We can't thank you enough for tricking below average players into playing questionable gear sets. It's always fun for us (me as well) to destroy an entire team of paid actors.
hahah yea are we the only ones who see it?
Alot of good players actually adapted to a CVS/CVS + Low Noise on squishy glass cannon mediums! Recently 100% marked my Leopard 1 and CVS + Low Noise helped me carry games on open maps very much being able to spot on your own, not having to rely on your scouts! HOWEVER I very much disagree with BS like E-50M/AMX 50B HP, Spallliner, Turbo thats just straight up trolling but i guess QB knows himself... 😂
"I get a Radley Walters about over a month"
Me over here having never got over 7 kills ever 😭
I like th3c2nd set of equipment. I don't use them on every tank, but the ones I do I really enjoy it.
They are not terrible equipments, I wouldnt be using them on a Lion though. I would take hp as alternative for big and soft med like Prog, TVP, Leo, etc; and vision build for sneakier med like bc, udes, etc.
@QB i think you personaly should love Crossout as you taking to account all the statistics and are good at stategy :)
I actually would bet that players don't use two slots of equipment because they are slow to unlock field mods
Thank you for this good analysis and smooth way to deal with critics.
After reading up on the OF40 that is basically what this is.
Ive used your "weird" setups on many of my tanks, and they work, so i always say people can just piss off when they start being hyper critical of it lol.
Just cause they "work" doesnt mean theyre good, u can play a tank without eq and it can work, just use normal eq and stop roleplaying a light tank every game u get the chance
This guy, just... "XD"
The fieldmods are useless on non-tier 10 and non-premiums since I am just grinding to get the next tank, and I don't have credits to buy equipment for all my tanks if I also want to buy new tanks I grinded for...
And on top of that I dont even have enough credits during a sale to buy enough equipment and consumables to last to the next sale...
If you can't stand -13 reverse speed on a MT, if you can't stand that moon-sized bloom on a MT, and you don't want to have a huge chance of getting a free garage ticket in the 1st minute of the battle for playing super aggressively while your tank is not capable of doing so, then just don't put an Exhaust on your Lion, don't use that +3% camo from Lv5 Field Mod, and don't try to play in LT positions.
This tank is neither sneaky nor fast enough for that.
The chance of getting actual spotting map without LTs is small.
The chance of getting actual spotting map without LTs & MTs that can outspot the Lion is even smaller.
You can have a 2nd set with V.Stab + CVS + Vents for Fisherman's Bay where you can spot through the bush safely.
But other than that, just do what the tank does best, hulldown when the situation allows and snipe when you can't be aggressive.
Nothing too crazy, nothing too extraordinary, but it's consistent and it doesn't make you smash your keyboard while screaming.
This is exactly what I do with my 430U when there are no LT's
WG said that 50% of players never uses the settings menu :O
This again proves how obsolete light tanks have become at high tiers, especially tier X. Sure, light tanks still might be best for maps like Prokhorovka, but on most other maps a medium tank set up with a scouting build can basically take over the role of a light tank without sacrificing the massive damage dealing potential a medium tank has over a light tank. High tier light tanks really need a buff, or better yet, every other class needs to get their view range nerfed massively. Like how come that even heavy tanks get better view range than light tanks? It's ridiculous. Furthermore, CVS should be an equipment, which only light tanks are able to use, to make them more relevant.
And regarding to 12:36, for f2p-players the second set of equipment is less usable, because unlike p2w players we need to use coated optics. So that means we have much less room for variation of equipment, because basically coated optics is always a must.
Because the saturated of view range and camo, there are more and more things help MT get that saturate state now that LT cannot have any advantage except the moving camo.
Agree. I think all non-LT's need to have a stat-nerf of their view range by about 15% at least.
very interesting
thanks
When you have over 250 tanks, having 2 builds on each is insane. That's why, in the WG stats, people don't use the second build. I play 30 different tanks in 2 daqys, and they are allways other tanks then the previous 2-3 days, so for me, I would have to grind 2 months on daily bassis, at least 4 hours/day, just tio farm the credits for that second build, on all the tanks, and WITH THE WARGAMING NERF OF CREDITS INCOME IN THE LAST 2 YEARS, that would not be easy or fun, and I AM REALLY BURNED OUT BY THE FVCKING MARATHON, to have fun grinding so much any more.
Third specialization choice for a medium: mobility.
Wargaming says that most players aren't even using second sets of equipment? I'm guessing that's because a lot of casual players simply don't have field mods ground out on the majority of their tanks.
"Not many people are even using the 2nd set of equipment"
I mean, to be fair, not many people are using their brain when they play this game either...
Good game Quickie baby Oh by the way say hi to Tanya
i would def use second build for my tanks, but i dont have the credits for it