@@t1rnrnyuk I think his point is the punishment is meaningless or unenforceable, so there is no deterrent to cheating. If they can get away with it or just a slap on the wrist, why stop?
The last guy that QB exposed 3 months ago got 2 weeks ban and was back playing like nothing ever happened . Those cheaters should have their accounts deleted for good .
@@scoutboy776 and what's stopping you? don't you lose even more potential revenue from all others who just don't come due to these ones which you just refuse to get the fck out? :) believe or not...dignity and the right attitude is a thing...even when profit is involved...
@@scoutboy776 You should see the state of cheating in war thunder... W.T.C.S -channel has good coverage of the state of cheaters. Accounts get banned, and new accounts pop up with premiums to just cheat again till the next ban wave... Banning the accounts doesn't remove the players, they just change their HWID, use a VPN and play on a new account and buy a premium using regional pricing. And that's in a game with server replays and an anti-cheat.
WG simply dont care about bots,riggers, etc. Send them report showcasing clear bot acount with over 150 games a day with 1 average dpg and the response was "stop sending us reports"
Sad part is they want to claim the griefers as “part of the active community” numbers so they can claim the game is not in decline. Otherwise they would be canned for lack of revenue and their position being made redundant.
@Terrorbrot "You are receiving this email because you were found to be engaging in a Minor Chat Violation. Specifically, you were observed Insults and provocations You were given a ban, and your Relapses rating has increased. Ban lengths will continue to get longer each time your rating increases." I never insult anyone in the game or the chat more than the unninstall the game please.
I'm not sure if you guys are aware but there is Full Business with full crews of people who are getting paid salaries and making a living out of it.... Its nothing new. Wargaming is aware of this and does nothing about it. In fact I dare to say WG lets the do that.
@@AlexaMG35 this was my best explanation for why WG left the Obj. 279 (e) and Chieftain in a broken OP state for so long. They were getting a cut from those grinding services...
@@scoutboy776 hence I have rigged battles myself on the EU4 server (around 600+- with 5k average) and havent been banned since, I mean I do have morals but even myself I question how wg couldnt ban me or others but could ban innocent people before who got into games with riggers.
@@jlangerrr6240Ugh, mate, that is rough. Personally, if I drop under under 40 in the first 10 matches of a session, I accept that this is not the day for me to play and move on to do something else. It is just not worth it to bang my head against that wall
There is absolutely no chance they accidentally stumbled across a bunch of inactive tanks. They were usually the first to get to the spawn, didn't deviate from going to the spawn, and even passed active enemies to go to the spawns. WG needs to check replays on blatant rig players like this and issue permanent bans rather than temp bans from auto-detection.
All those players cheat and that's how they get their high statistics. It is certain that the regular player will find it increasingly difficult to improve if you get such cheaters in your game! I've been playing since 2018 and I can tell you that I see enough of what's going on in this goddamn shitty game!
They can get the sign in information from wot replay which is very corrupt. Then they can sign in with those stolen ID's and have them afk. This is not a small business it is an actual business of cheaters.
Russian WG programmers do Orc things, they don’t really care unless it makes them poorer, it’s in their blood, just look at what their compatriots are doing in Ukraine. This game is rotten to the core, that’s why ppl leave the game, dumbass spotting, RNG and MM mechanics piss people off too.
As a player who played thousands of battles in late night/early morning hours due to my working hours, this matchmaking is clearly rigged. This does not happen on any of the EU servers, even between 2-6am -_- Of course there will be situations with one, two, even three afks in the middle of the night, but never majority of the team. WG should just permaban every account that was involved in those games. There are literally dozens of 3rd party boosting websites that provides rigging games like this so they can sell easy 3 marks, campaign missions and stuff. I wouldn't be surprised if it was involving some sort of illegal mods to abuse the matchmaker to get so many botted accounts into one game with their "customer". I don't understand one thing. This game is SO old, and WG still didin't figured out a system to simply check all 10k+ damage games that happen if they are legit or not, just by filtering them by movements of the tanks. Nowadays majority of 10k games happen during rigged games, because thats the easiest way to boost someone to 3rd mark quickly.
I have some epic games here and there. Usually it's luck. I get the right amount of stupid on my team to let me shine more and the right amount of stupid on the enemy team to make my pushes and aggression easier. What I really love is when someone decides to knock down trees, while I'm watching, and then try to scream at me about how I'm hacking. Had it happen the other day last week. Even told the guy to watch the replay himself because he refused to believe he knocked down trees, despite it happening. It amazes me how people still can't grasp the simple fact that when you knock down trees people can see it, and it doesn't have to be in the communication range either. You can see a good bit away outside of that too.
WG can stop cheating in World of Tanks but they don't want to. As I have explained earlier, I used to report a lot of bots, I sent replays to WG's customer support, I used the in-game reporting system and nothing happened. I reported 44% WR tomato driving Obj.279e with 46% WR and WG didn't see anything wrong with that. Sure, the most difficult missions can be done by someone with 44% average wins, although with the Obj.279e they couldn't even find the left mouse button to fire. WG does not care and anyone playing the game with these bots and cheaters is a fool.
this is shame of Wargaming, who did nothing against this kind of players - this isn't new - this battle rigging is happening from years ago. Also this is against normal players as these rigged battles increase the MoE limits + if you are one of the player who want to play in fair and you find yousefl in these battles you are f:ck:d. Expecting some open communication from Wargaming but they are silent. Expecting to perma ban these accounts and delete server data from these - but nothing happens. Good Job Wargaming!
I play late nights on the N.A. server because thats where my account is and im living in the Philippines.....and I still SUCK LOL no clan or rewards tanks here......just 62 years old trying to have fun and not a sweaty player.
@@Shack11 yes there are, they just go to South american servers cuz the amount of people there is lower, so its easier to rig battles, either for dpg, marks of excellemce, or campaign missions, they get it all done on nights at SA server
Someone should raise the issue with the Digital Services - European Commission and it like the vendor knows there is a problem with a game rigged and not doing something about it, thats a Fine waiting to Hit WG.
I will occasionally blind shot likely locations and bushes. I've blind killed TDs before, no cheating necessary. You can see if your shot hit a tank by it disappearing instead of impacting the ground.
Back in the days, blind shooting was expensive and you had to manage your amount of ammo kind of... but we did it. Even with arty. To counter arti was (is still) fun. I admit I blindshoot now much MUCH more often, there is a point in the game you don't care anymore about credits and ammo cost. Every (blind) shot not taken is possible less damage. It is more common now to check positons with a left click and on top you know positions, so you expect there someone.
Haven't been on there for 3+ years, but I do remember it being full of people chanting "it's not a failure but a feature of the game". Often times they were moderators. Granted there were a lot of moaners as well, but I think the first group contributed a lot more for the bad direction in which the game went.
the ones that shut down because WG didnt want to hire moderators for it, and went to the ses pool called discord. were people get banned for using brain power and having logical conversations
1 thing i learned from my years of playing online games. If there is a hard online event with unique rewards, people WILL cheat. The only way to prevent such a thing is to not have hard online events with unique rewards. But hey, those people probally bribe wargaming!
No the right way is to use REAL IDs to register for a game and if caught cheating ban that player not only on that game but on all GAMES forever or at least make them play on chaeters only servers. This has been done effectively....just look at South Korea.
Banned forever by their IP address, all their stats removed from the game. But it won't happen, WG does not want to stop it. Maybe Steel Aces will be a good game...
They are not even trying to stop cheating... After the last manuevers event they havent banned any single person. we even reported many players and nothing happened. 6 of my clan mates including myself alligned in between 9200-9400 and missed the tank by 100-300 players... We were ranked under 8000 till last day. Last day of the event we won 15 games and 8 game lost, which was even better performance then our avarage day, but still we lost over 1000 rank!!! PPL WERE riging in the manuevers event tooo I m sure!!! me and my mates literaly scammed. WG riped 2 weeks of hard work. 2 of my mates decided to quit the game and 4 of use decided not to pay a single peny to this game from now on...
Because of your videos about this situation now everyone knows, that it is possible to farm afk tanks in eu4, 2-4am utc+2 on weekends without hosting bots. After noticing which tanks are being farmed, pick correct one to be let in 40 player queue and rig marks, campaigns. Im still amazed WG is not banning obvious bots.
There is another cheat mod floating around regarding your "spotted" light bulb. It appears that someone has adapted some code that holds the bulb up whilst ever you are spotted rather than the short duration. So, if you are spotted for a few minutes the bulb is active all that time. Appears to be adaption of code from the console version of WoT. I've seen this many times on European posters vids, bloody cheats.
There are tons of sites where you pay someone to grind for you. I guess they have multiple stolen accounts (there is also a market for that) and either multiple pc's or people who join at the same time. Hm, and maybe if they do not get paid they post the replays in order to get the customer banned. Even though it would mean that the payment system they use can be exploited in this way. And people in the comments say WG doesn't even ban the accounts. So it must be other reason for why they post the replays.
I get reported on the regular for not driving into the middle of a field that a random TD is pinging me constantly to do. Almost every match I see someone in chat that someone is reporting someone as a bot for not playing the way they feel they should. With all these crybabies putting in tickets for bogus complaints, how can anyone expect a team of people to decipher the legitimate complaints of cheating vs the crybabies?
Yup. A few weeks ago, I shot a tank twice ammo racking it both times. The player sent me a message calling me a hacker, and he reported me for cheating.
@@crevette_faroucheif you don't have a system that can detect player with thousands of games having 0 dmg, just not doing nothing and getting farmed then you are part of the cheating yourself.
I found a battle where over half of my and the enemy team was afk on EU3, glacier, in my t54 mod-1. It was at like 5am but I didnt farm it I died to a t-103 defending them all.
Hello QB! I am AvenSzergej from the T-62A and Object 140, and to be honest, I'm down to a podcast type talking, where I can explain that evening and getting to know that 2 player by names, who did this bot lobby thingy. I don't want to defend myself mainly, cause I was getting some casual EU4 gaming that night, and the cliff match you explained was thought to be the same random game, without any bots or theese random things. I'm surely dowm for a talk, I'll wait for your response. Cheers.
Quick edit by watching more into the video, yes, you are goddamn right that I shouldnt make those decisions when doing theese 10k basically free matches, but as you said players try marking things for weeks, months and I genuely got bored of jumping between 90-94% all the time.
@@mrmeepsyt5917 Yeah you are right aside from "cheater", mabye I should play better than 2.6k recent lmao, but what if I told you I ain't knew nothing about this in the first hour, who the literal fuck would think a random eu4 session end up in theese. But as a normal human, I wasnt really caring about that MAYBE I shouldnt had to be greedy that time. Nevermind, learned my lesson to not go on eu4 again :D
Cheaters tend to have "Fat wallets" and credit cards linked to WG premium shop. WG says they ban cheaters, but do they really? Or are they banning old inactive accounts? Nobody know because no one has ever known a person who got banned 🤔. So with NO consequences for cheating, why stop. Rock on Tankers. 🤘😎
The afk tanks are hacked accounts. It happened to me and I got banned from wargaming. When I sent a ticket and they gave my account back, this was their explanation.
WG doesn't give much sh*ts about cheats. One of their side income stream is a cheat engine, after all. Probably a good chunk of their income, considering they can charge whatever they want and people will pay.
Wargaming is undoubtedly aware of all these incidents and simply aims to maintain the game server with a high number of players. Just imagine if the oversight or algorithms used for major events like campaigns were applied to random battles how many cheaters they would lose😂. Therefore, it is in Wargaming’s interest to leave them unchecked.😉
This is interesting because a ton were removed from NAs standings as I understand it. I went from I believe 2000 or 1965 ish up to 1657 from players being removed
WG isn't doing anything from my perspective, in fact they make things worse for the community by focusing only what new premiums they release to wreck the game with. There are mods currently being used that allow one to spot the enemy team from the start (I've tested this theory and when you remain unspotted one tank or 2 will routinely direct hit you even if you've waited then relocated. Soon as you go to take a shot you are instantly hit by the same players(s) yet never spotted. I tested this in game by being in a weird location rather than the obvious ones. Soon as you try to do anything that same player hits you while remaining cloaked.
I had a game where most of the teams didn't fire a single shell, everyone was platooned and in clans, (same on each side but mixed) It was a tier 8 game.. i got 6 kills and 7k demage, tm8 rammed me out infront of the one guy on the other team who fired and i picked him appart during fight with team, then when he died everyone started playing normal.. (played tvp100) I felt sick and cheatef after that.
My clan(TBW) initially qualified for the M60 in the first CW event. Unfortunately when WG changed how the points were allocated(something to do with making players in a clan who hadn't participated suddenly eligible) my clan lost out. Then one week before the next CW event started almost everyone in TBW bailed to higher ranked clans to have a better chance to get tanks. Not one of those guys ever communicated with those of us who stayed again.
WG has other things to worry about like loot boxes and made up tanks, This game has become WG's money making machine and all the new content they add is just old stuff they slightly adjust, like 3D skins and the upcoming 3d stuff you can add onto your tank, If you look at other way more ambitious projects like War Thunder, that game actually evolves and has a lot more variety, Sadly WOT is at the end of its lifetime and will soon lose the last few dedicated players. As for the rest of us, we're struggling to get our 3rd mark of excellence when these bots shoot stationary tanks left right and center, i mad one 11650 damage game in the +60k battles i played since i started playing in 2013 and for that game to happen, stars had to aligne, this is pathetic
I had a number of games recently where I've been curb stomped, nothing new for me, but in them I was being blind fired while undetected and not even hiding in a bush. Not just once or twice but deliberately until destroyed and nobody was near me and no enemy light tanks, like an ELC, was camping close by. I watched at least 7 other tanks killed this way by the same two players. reported it to WG but I saw the same two players on my team the next day where they did it again to the other side. Again, reported it, but doubt anything came of it.
Most of the previous week I've had loss after loss. My team just camped at the back, kept getting hit without taken evasive actions, resulting in some not even causing any damage. They weren't bots and by the end of each game, their team had most of their players still in the game. I'm getting so frustrated that this continues to happen. As for Marks Of Excellence, it should be individual player based, not grouped. I'm an average player but new players just won't even get one mark.
It should be incredibly easy to spot cheaters in WG - diligence, forensics, cheat triggers etc. If people know that a consequence of cheating is losing EVERYTHING and there is a not small chance of being caught then they would be far less likely to do it.
Considering that some use Delay Pedals where you can warp on demand with the push of a foot. It's totally invisible to hardware checkers. So... Online you will have cheaters.
This has spread to SA server at all hours even in low tiers. I have played many tier 3 to 6 battles in several days now and 75% + have had at least 1 rigger per side. They don't move unless they are called out in chat or pushed away from their spawn and/or fired upon by me. I am thoroughly disgusted with WG!
Remember when WG punished people for rigging to get the T-22? I wonder if they stopped doing that because their population is much lower now and they just want to keep people in the game.
Not only 'concerning' WOT does nothing but really 'sad' these people have nothing better to do with there time then to cheat in a game that means absolutely nothing in real life.
If WG wanted to do something about this. They could. Sure one or two tanks dont connect and dont play. But any more, and those results shouldnt count towards marks of excellence, bonds, or events
1 10k game? ok... just good luck... 2 10k games? uh...well... its their lucky day I guess? 3+ 10k games in a session? okay..WG needs to investigate it...
...why would they stop if there aren't any consequences?
clearly a cheater why even give them the benefit of the doubt
Sad people with no life
They wont, no1 fkin cares from wargamin to actually do somethin
Wild theory: WG developers are part of the rigging bs
@@t1rnrnyuk I think his point is the punishment is meaningless or unenforceable, so there is no deterrent to cheating. If they can get away with it or just a slap on the wrist, why stop?
The last guy that QB exposed 3 months ago got 2 weeks ban and was back playing like nothing ever happened . Those cheaters should have their accounts deleted for good .
smart comment buddy i would like to ban people from my store and lose potential revenue from buying my product / service
@@scoutboy776 and what's stopping you?
don't you lose even more potential revenue from all others who just don't come due to these ones which you just refuse to get the fck out? :)
believe or not...dignity and the right attitude is a thing...even when profit is involved...
@@Splina. but that isnt the attitude that WG is taking is it?
@@scoutboy776 You should see the state of cheating in war thunder...
W.T.C.S -channel has good coverage of the state of cheaters.
Accounts get banned, and new accounts pop up with premiums to just cheat again till the next ban wave...
Banning the accounts doesn't remove the players, they just change their HWID, use a VPN and play on a new account and buy a premium using regional pricing. And that's in a game with server replays and an anti-cheat.
Yeah i got perma ban for swearing but they dont for cheating hmm
WG simply dont care about bots,riggers, etc. Send them report showcasing clear bot acount with over 150 games a day with 1 average dpg and the response was "stop sending us reports"
They don't even care about getting the perma griefers out of this game, why would they care about rigging
Sad part is they want to claim the griefers as “part of the active community” numbers so they can claim the game is not in decline. Otherwise they would be canned for lack of revenue and their position being made redundant.
Ohh, but i got banned 1 week for just saying "please kv2 unninstall the game" lol
@joaquinfo460 that's absolutely impossible
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I never insult anyone in the game or the chat more than the unninstall the game please.
I'm not sure if you guys are aware but there is Full Business with full crews of people who are getting paid salaries and making a living out of it.... Its nothing new. Wargaming is aware of this and does nothing about it. In fact I dare to say WG lets the do that.
Why would they stop them? WG are greedy cunts, if ppl are willing to pay to be better it means more players will play the game which is good for wg.
Wouldnt surprise me if there's some under-the-table dealings where WG get a cut of the business 'fees', hence why they allow it
i know one of those people and they grind a second account for me, so if my account gets banned or whatever i have a second to fall back on
@@AlexaMG35 this was my best explanation for why WG left the Obj. 279 (e) and Chieftain in a broken OP state for so long.
They were getting a cut from those grinding services...
@@scoutboy776 hence I have rigged battles myself on the EU4 server (around 600+- with 5k average) and havent been banned since, I mean I do have morals but even myself I question how wg couldnt ban me or others but could ban innocent people before who got into games with riggers.
Well this explains the 40% WNR I had last night
I had 8% last night
@@jlangerrr6240 Jesus… how many games did you play?
@@rizzmo8451 1 win 12 lose
@@rizzmo8451 funny RUclips eat my reply, 1-12 win-lose
@@jlangerrr6240Ugh, mate, that is rough. Personally, if I drop under under 40 in the first 10 matches of a session, I accept that this is not the day for me to play and move on to do something else. It is just not worth it to bang my head against that wall
There is absolutely no chance they accidentally stumbled across a bunch of inactive tanks. They were usually the first to get to the spawn, didn't deviate from going to the spawn, and even passed active enemies to go to the spawns. WG needs to check replays on blatant rig players like this and issue permanent bans rather than temp bans from auto-detection.
nothing has changed in 10 years
It got worse. Much, much worse....But not only cheating and griefing. Other than graphics, everything went downhill in this game.
As long as the $ is rolling in WG will not do anything
Why are there 10 afk players in the first place wtf
All those players cheat and that's how they get their high statistics. It is certain that the regular player will find it increasingly difficult to improve if you get such cheaters in your game! I've been playing since 2018 and I can tell you that I see enough of what's going on in this goddamn shitty game!
They can get the sign in information from wot replay which is very corrupt. Then they can sign in with those stolen ID's and have them afk. This is not a small business it is an actual business of cheaters.
@@rycor9117 They get it form wot-replay?!?
ruzzian bot farms working overnight
@@jo-fe9mb YEs wot-replay is very corrupt. they can use hacked accounts
Imagine if Wargaming actually looked into this and banned the cheaters.
One can always dream...
And WGs indifference is why I quit WoT.
As long as the $ is rolling in WG will not do anything
Russian WG programmers do Orc things, they don’t really care unless it makes them poorer, it’s in their blood, just look at what their compatriots are doing in Ukraine. This game is rotten to the core, that’s why ppl leave the game, dumbass spotting, RNG and MM mechanics piss people off too.
As a player who played thousands of battles in late night/early morning hours due to my working hours, this matchmaking is clearly rigged. This does not happen on any of the EU servers, even between 2-6am -_-
Of course there will be situations with one, two, even three afks in the middle of the night, but never majority of the team.
WG should just permaban every account that was involved in those games.
There are literally dozens of 3rd party boosting websites that provides rigging games like this so they can sell easy 3 marks, campaign missions and stuff.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was involving some sort of illegal mods to abuse the matchmaker to get so many botted accounts into one game with their "customer".
I don't understand one thing. This game is SO old, and WG still didin't figured out a system to simply check all 10k+ damage games that happen if they are legit or not, just by filtering them by movements of the tanks. Nowadays majority of 10k games happen during rigged games, because thats the easiest way to boost someone to 3rd mark quickly.
I have some epic games here and there. Usually it's luck. I get the right amount of stupid on my team to let me shine more and the right amount of stupid on the enemy team to make my pushes and aggression easier. What I really love is when someone decides to knock down trees, while I'm watching, and then try to scream at me about how I'm hacking. Had it happen the other day last week. Even told the guy to watch the replay himself because he refused to believe he knocked down trees, despite it happening. It amazes me how people still can't grasp the simple fact that when you knock down trees people can see it, and it doesn't have to be in the communication range either. You can see a good bit away outside of that too.
WG can stop cheating in World of Tanks but they don't want to. As I have explained earlier, I used to report a lot of bots, I sent replays to WG's customer support, I used the in-game reporting system and nothing happened. I reported 44% WR tomato driving Obj.279e with 46% WR and WG didn't see anything wrong with that. Sure, the most difficult missions can be done by someone with 44% average wins, although with the Obj.279e they couldn't even find the left mouse button to fire. WG does not care and anyone playing the game with these bots and cheaters is a fool.
this is shame of Wargaming, who did nothing against this kind of players - this isn't new - this battle rigging is happening from years ago.
Also this is against normal players as these rigged battles increase the MoE limits + if you are one of the player who want to play in fair and you find yousefl in these battles you are f:ck:d.
Expecting some open communication from Wargaming but they are silent.
Expecting to perma ban these accounts and delete server data from these - but nothing happens.
Good Job Wargaming!
I play late nights on the N.A. server because thats where my account is and im living in the Philippines.....and I still SUCK LOL no clan or rewards tanks here......just 62 years old trying to have fun and not a sweaty player.
I’m leaving tomorrow for Manila to get married. How bad is the ping for the NA server? Have a great day
There aren't as many cheaters like this in the NA server.
@@Shack11 yes there are, they just go to South american servers cuz the amount of people there is lower, so its easier to rig battles, either for dpg, marks of excellemce, or campaign missions, they get it all done on nights at SA server
@ 230 to 240 sometimes higher but it’s stable bad but playable
Someone should raise the issue with the Digital Services - European Commission and it like the vendor knows there is a problem with a game rigged and not doing something about it, thats a Fine waiting to Hit WG.
@@mossaddk ruzzian troll farms should be sanctioned
Strange when there are sometimes inexplicable blind shots.
Maybe you're just being way too obvious, or do you really think someone hacks the game you're in just to blind shoot you once?
I will occasionally blind shot likely locations and bushes. I've blind killed TDs before, no cheating necessary. You can see if your shot hit a tank by it disappearing instead of impacting the ground.
Back in the days, blind shooting was expensive and you had to manage your amount of ammo kind of... but we did it. Even with arty. To counter arti was (is still) fun.
I admit I blindshoot now much MUCH more often, there is a point in the game you don't care anymore about credits and ammo cost. Every (blind) shot not taken is possible less damage.
It is more common now to check positons with a left click and on top you know positions, so you expect there someone.
Ich schieße im jedem Gefecht blind, solange ich keine Feinde sehe. Das bringt mir fast jedes Mal mehr Schaden am ende der Runde.
Bushes often get blindshotted by better players, but there is a mod making blindshooting easy...
Why I stopped seeking for 3rd marks. It’s almost impossible now and it means nothing
These are the videos that the game NEEDS and BRAVO for making them ….
Remember the forums where corrupt moderators would give a ban if you claimed that there were cheaters and asked WG to do something about it?
Haven't been on there for 3+ years, but I do remember it being full of people chanting "it's not a failure but a feature of the game". Often times they were moderators. Granted there were a lot of moaners as well, but I think the first group contributed a lot more for the bad direction in which the game went.
the ones that shut down because WG didnt want to hire moderators for it, and went to the ses pool called discord. were people get banned for using brain power and having logical conversations
This is how this game is going to die, because WG don't stop these bots
While I am having a 8% win rate night(my overall win rate is 55%), cheaters does enjoy the game differently.
Cool story bro
1 thing i learned from my years of playing online games.
If there is a hard online event with unique rewards, people WILL cheat.
The only way to prevent such a thing is to not have hard online events with unique rewards.
But hey, those people probally bribe wargaming!
No the right way is to use REAL IDs to register for a game and if caught cheating ban that player not only on that game but on all GAMES forever or at least make them play on chaeters only servers.
This has been done effectively....just look at South Korea.
Banned forever by their IP address, all their stats removed from the game. But it won't happen, WG does not want to stop it. Maybe Steel Aces will be a good game...
if ip bans were to come out every one of these players would just turn on vpn and not be bothered just rig on one of the 20 accounts
@@lightning794 true, I guess they can't be stopped
seems like WG only cares about the money these days so they dont bother with cheaters
They are not even trying to stop cheating... After the last manuevers event they havent banned any single person. we even reported many players and nothing happened. 6 of my clan mates including myself alligned in between 9200-9400 and missed the tank by 100-300 players... We were ranked under 8000 till last day. Last day of the event we won 15 games and 8 game lost, which was even better performance then our avarage day, but still we lost over 1000 rank!!! PPL WERE riging in the manuevers event tooo I m sure!!! me and my mates literaly scammed. WG riped 2 weeks of hard work. 2 of my mates decided to quit the game and 4 of use decided not to pay a single peny to this game from now on...
By the way, very good investigation, impressed :)
Because of your videos about this situation now everyone knows, that it is possible to farm afk tanks in eu4, 2-4am utc+2 on weekends without hosting bots. After noticing which tanks are being farmed, pick correct one to be let in 40 player queue and rig marks, campaigns. Im still amazed WG is not banning obvious bots.
There is another cheat mod floating around regarding your "spotted" light bulb. It appears that someone has adapted some code that holds the bulb up whilst ever you are spotted rather than the short duration. So, if you are spotted for a few minutes the bulb is active all that time. Appears to be adaption of code from the console version of WoT. I've seen this many times on European posters vids, bloody cheats.
Wee Gee ain't gonna do a thing about this.
There are tons of sites where you pay someone to grind for you. I guess they have multiple stolen accounts (there is also a market for that) and either multiple pc's or people who join at the same time.
Hm, and maybe if they do not get paid they post the replays in order to get the customer banned. Even though it would mean that the payment system they use can be exploited in this way. And people in the comments say WG doesn't even ban the accounts. So it must be other reason for why they post the replays.
The whole point of playing the game is to test yourself, that includes losing and accepting defeat and learning.
What does that have to do with cheating?
Do you like to accept rigged defeats or even rigged, unfair victories? That makes no sense.
Bravo Quicky, but I sincerely doubt that the hardened WG system will do anything. Maybe if we all report cheaters.
I get reported on the regular for not driving into the middle of a field that a random TD is pinging me constantly to do. Almost every match I see someone in chat that someone is reporting someone as a bot for not playing the way they feel they should. With all these crybabies putting in tickets for bogus complaints, how can anyone expect a team of people to decipher the legitimate complaints of cheating vs the crybabies?
That is what you have automatic detection systems for.
Right now QB is saygin "integrity" and "wargaming" in the same sentence, joke of the day.
I never get treatened to be reported. Why are you bad?
Yup. A few weeks ago, I shot a tank twice ammo racking it both times. The player sent me a message calling me a hacker, and he reported me for cheating.
Simple SQL query
@@crevette_faroucheif you don't have a system that can detect player with thousands of games having 0 dmg, just not doing nothing and getting farmed then you are part of the cheating yourself.
I found a battle where over half of my and the enemy team was afk on EU3, glacier, in my t54 mod-1. It was at like 5am but I didnt farm it I died to a t-103 defending them all.
in a little while only the rerollers the ''golden boys'' and the Bots will be playing by their own
Hello QB! I am AvenSzergej from the T-62A and Object 140, and to be honest, I'm down to a podcast type talking, where I can explain that evening and getting to know that 2 player by names, who did this bot lobby thingy. I don't want to defend myself mainly, cause I was getting some casual EU4 gaming that night, and the cliff match you explained was thought to be the same random game, without any bots or theese random things. I'm surely dowm for a talk, I'll wait for your response. Cheers.
Quick edit by watching more into the video, yes, you are goddamn right that I shouldnt make those decisions when doing theese 10k basically free matches, but as you said players try marking things for weeks, months and I genuely got bored of jumping between 90-94% all the time.
Get good cheater.@staryysiarhiej
@@mrmeepsyt5917 Yeah you are right aside from "cheater", mabye I should play better than 2.6k recent lmao, but what if I told you I ain't knew nothing about this in the first hour, who the literal fuck would think a random eu4 session end up in theese. But as a normal human, I wasnt really caring about that MAYBE I shouldnt had to be greedy that time. Nevermind, learned my lesson to not go on eu4 again :D
Let's hope QB actually sees this so you can explain your view to them too, so they ain't blind (yk who iam :D)
Second player he displayed changed nickname, you can find him by personal fame points in maneuvers, he is still in that clan
Cheaters tend to have "Fat wallets" and credit cards linked to WG premium shop. WG says they ban cheaters, but do they really? Or are they banning old inactive accounts? Nobody know because no one has ever known a person who got banned 🤔. So with NO consequences for cheating, why stop. Rock on Tankers. 🤘😎
The afk tanks are hacked accounts. It happened to me and I got banned from wargaming. When I sent a ticket and they gave my account back, this was their explanation.
WG doesn't care. Shocking. :O
Players were banned but not removed from the leaderboard.
Report cheaters on our homepage. WG might remove their ban after one or two weeks, bur they will be displayed on the wall of shame forever.
Thanks for shining a light into this darkness. Hopefully WG takes some action...
where is the Emotional Damage part 2 thumbnail?
WG doesn't give much sh*ts about cheats.
One of their side income stream is a cheat engine, after all. Probably a good chunk of their income, considering they can charge whatever they want and people will pay.
Wargaming is undoubtedly aware of all these incidents and simply aims to maintain the game server with a high number of players. Just imagine if the oversight or algorithms used for major events like campaigns were applied to random battles how many cheaters they would lose😂.
Therefore, it is in Wargaming’s interest to leave them unchecked.😉
Ohne unsere Aufregung würde WG gar nichts gegen die Cheater unternehmen. Fairplay ist für WG ein Fremdwort :)
Cheating and oportunist mindset only demonstrates how small and petty those players are. Take care QB and have fun around, good hunting mate !
wargaming is gonna make a premium matchmaking for cash so u dont get cheaters, honestly what a joke
Maybe it's because wargaming doesn't care cause the people that dont get those tanks will always give them more money for more tanks lol
WG is in on it !
Cheaters are the cancer of this game for all other players. Great research, analysis and conclusions as always QB
His nickname means “return my panties” 😂
Why i don’t play this game much anymore, it’s been going downhill for years. Kudos calling them out.
Makes me even more proud of marking some tanks fair and square, even without gold ammo. 🤘
Hm.. and what should we call "players" of those inactive tanks?
It’s very very worries for me as I spent more than 10 years on this game and now cheaters are getting rewards for cheating
This is interesting because a ton were removed from NAs standings as I understand it. I went from I believe 2000 or 1965 ish up to 1657 from players being removed
WG isn't doing anything from my perspective, in fact they make things worse for the community by focusing only what new premiums they release to wreck the game with.
There are mods currently being used that allow one to spot the enemy team from the start (I've tested this theory and when you remain unspotted one tank or 2 will routinely direct hit you even if you've waited then relocated. Soon as you go to take a shot you are instantly hit by the same players(s) yet never spotted. I tested this in game by being in a weird location rather than the obvious ones. Soon as you try to do anything that same player hits you while remaining cloaked.
I had a game where most of the teams didn't fire a single shell, everyone was platooned and in clans, (same on each side but mixed)
It was a tier 8 game.. i got 6 kills and 7k demage, tm8 rammed me out infront of the one guy on the other team who fired and i picked him appart during fight with team, then when he died everyone started playing normal.. (played tvp100)
I felt sick and cheatef after that.
Yeah, my account was used this weekend on rigged battles ! Hopefully support from WG was efficient
ivan from omsk happily uses your account if you are not careful
How? You just giveaway you passwords?
My clan(TBW) initially qualified for the M60 in the first CW event. Unfortunately when WG changed how the points were allocated(something to do with making players in a clan who hadn't participated suddenly eligible) my clan lost out. Then one week before the next CW event started almost everyone in TBW bailed to higher ranked clans to have a better chance to get tanks. Not one of those guys ever communicated with those of us who stayed again.
Cheating has always been an issue in World of Tanks, you're just a good enough player to overcome it often enough as to not really need to notice it.
Lmao nah
bro doesnt play on NA, all the good players cheat anyways because the baddies cant do anything to stop it reguardless
WG has other things to worry about like loot boxes and made up tanks, This game has become WG's money making machine and all the new content they add is just old stuff they slightly adjust, like 3D skins and the upcoming 3d stuff you can add onto your tank, If you look at other way more ambitious projects like War Thunder, that game actually evolves and has a lot more variety, Sadly WOT is at the end of its lifetime and will soon lose the last few dedicated players.
As for the rest of us, we're struggling to get our 3rd mark of excellence when these bots shoot stationary tanks left right and center, i mad one 11650 damage game in the +60k battles i played since i started playing in 2013 and for that game to happen, stars had to aligne, this is pathetic
Banning cheaters doesn't bring WG money, they rather try to sell them their Warpack in-house cheat mod
I had a number of games recently where I've been curb stomped, nothing new for me, but in them I was being blind fired while undetected and not even hiding in a bush. Not just once or twice but deliberately until destroyed and nobody was near me and no enemy light tanks, like an ELC, was camping close by. I watched at least 7 other tanks killed this way by the same two players. reported it to WG but I saw the same two players on my team the next day where they did it again to the other side. Again, reported it, but doubt anything came of it.
Not spending a penny on this game seems like the best decision ever
Most of the previous week I've had loss after loss. My team just camped at the back, kept getting hit without taken evasive actions, resulting in some not even causing any damage. They weren't bots and by the end of each game, their team had most of their players still in the game. I'm getting so frustrated that this continues to happen. As for Marks Of Excellence, it should be individual player based, not grouped. I'm an average player but new players just won't even get one mark.
Massive cheating.
Bug little boy
Average Day in WOT.
Wargaming - wake up
不正を行ったプレイヤーによって優等の基準が正しくなくなるのはとても悲しいことです😢😢
I play often late at night, but I have never seen this.
It should be incredibly easy to spot cheaters in WG - diligence, forensics, cheat triggers etc. If people know that a consequence of cheating is losing EVERYTHING and there is a not small chance of being caught then they would be far less likely to do it.
I really hope you send all this information to WG. Maybe they wont do anything about it, but they should at least know what is happening in the game.
So people make mark hard for players to get. So players spam more gold rounds, but more premium time, and buy more gold tanks. Why would WG stop this.
Very nice to find the video's - Could you please find out if anything done by WG in these matters?
i have never seen 10+ afk players in my 10 years of playing.
We should promote the idea of stop spending any money here.
Its pointless to even point this out, WG doesnt care.
Speechles how this is your second video and they didn't take any actions yet, its not that they don't know about it
It's why you shouldn't take the game too seriously. If you change your life to win a pixel tank, you should check yourself.
This game start to be famous for most discusting cheats on the customers.
Considering that some use Delay Pedals where you can warp on demand with the push of a foot. It's totally invisible to hardware checkers. So... Online you will have cheaters.
This has spread to SA server at all hours even in low tiers. I have played many tier 3 to 6 battles in several days now and 75% + have had at least 1 rigger per side. They don't move unless they are called out in chat or pushed away from their spawn and/or fired upon by me. I am thoroughly disgusted with WG!
the reason NA has the SA server option is for riggers and so you can convert your account over to their currency to buy more while spending less
I might be wrong but this is just the people that recorded their replays, there may be more people that didn’t!
Remember when WG punished people for rigging to get the T-22?
I wonder if they stopped doing that because their population is much lower now and they just want to keep people in the game.
yep, exactly why, they need to keep the money coming in to keep the servers up
One of the reasons I quit this game 2 years ago after 10 years of playing it.
Remember when riggers who got T-22 Medium from the Onslaught mode got banned en masse? Seems WG doesn't.
probably because they see how all but EU has low pop servers and they cant ban 1/3 of 10,000 players
How would they know in 4 different games that most were afk?
Not only 'concerning' WOT does nothing but really 'sad' these people have nothing better to do with there time then to cheat in a game that means absolutely nothing in real life.
I think I'm going to log on tonight at 3Am and try yoloing my way in and see if it works for me.... why not
People paying $100/200 for one tank
I am so glad I stopped playing WG titles half a decade ago.
If WG wanted to do something about this. They could.
Sure one or two tanks dont connect and dont play. But any more, and those results shouldnt count towards marks of excellence, bonds, or events
how is that cheating?
WG need to remove MODS folder forever and will be done with any cheating...
I wonder if the person who posted the replay didn't do so out stupidity, but just wanted to see if he /she would get banned.
I guess the thing that I wonder most is why people would still play this game.
1 10k game? ok... just good luck... 2 10k games? uh...well... its their lucky day I guess? 3+ 10k games in a session? okay..WG needs to investigate it...