@@skapslaghonestly that's not surprising at all. If ever I see someone raging in chat about their team being bad, it's almost always one of the first people to die. And then I make a point to check their post-game stats, and what a surprise, more often than not they did sub-500 damage lol
It's a lot easier to win the vision battle when the enemy team doesn't get a scout. Czech lights don't get nearly enough camo to do the job on Prokh or Mali.
@@vvav imo, they should be mediums rather than lights. In a match where there's only one scout per team on a map that relies heavily on scouting, a team with Czech light tanks is at a significant disadvantage.
@@BajGer12331 I've been saying this since 2017 when they first got introduced. Sheridan is, unfortunately, a useless scout, because (suprise, suprise) it gets matched up against actual scouts, and on any open map, you are at a disadvantage. That "incredible" DPM will do you no good when your team is left without an actual scout.
“Oppressive” is probably the best way to describe a Manticore/ELC Even 90. If the player knows what they’re doing, it’s almost impossible to counter: you can try to flush them out with proxy spotting but 90% of the time you die before you even get in proxy spotting range, it’s such a terrifying tank in the hands of the right player
@@corsafreak what a blanc statement just because of one game....are you aware of all the lost games with the same manticore/elc?.....just because the team doesn't shoot at spots/doesn't hit - bad positioning?
@@Jonas-sg9uq True. In 2019 when they were first introduced, people stopped playing tier X lights altogether. It was simply EBR vs EBR, because you had no way of competing with that level of active spotting. They are the reason I gave up on tier 10 lights lol. Even today, it's so easy for them to do a hero run driving straight towards your bush while you are sweating and trying to leave that position as soon as possible. Your team won't hit sh*t but their team will eat you alive. An EBR driven by a good player is STILL a scary thing.
That FV4005 player epitomizes the Dunning-Kruger effect perfectly. Also, near the end of the first replay I was thinking "I had 14k spotting games at tier 8 and I have a replay to prove it"... Was I humbled afterward...
i dont think there is any need to refer wot players with psychological illness while some players are great at the game and know what they are doing but the majority i would say doesn't and i dont think it's their fault wot is a complicated game with many mechanics but still seems to be simple on the surface so in our current time where every other action game is just about rushing and that instant dopamine i think that players like the fv aren't even that bad
I looked up the Fv4005 chatter in the first game. 48.84% win percentage over 12,225 battles. It's ALWAYS the bad or below average players who say stuff like that. The mental jail they lock themselves in is always so sad to see. They think they're a field marshal when they can't hit the broadside of a barn from the inside.
not always the `bad` players who give you shit. I`m @ 49% and like to play Lt`s. been pushed into fire, off a cliff Tk etc all because off my stats. I`m in the top 98% for spot dmg.
@@anthonyhowrard526 Just FYI: Top 98% means, that 97% would be above you. What you maybe wanted to say is "better than 98% of players". Its a subtle but important difference as it changes the meaning entirely.
7:35 for some players who would like to know small tricks, yeah those type 4h shots and arty shot were intentional even if ru wasn't spotted. If your allies die in the area where selma and char died, and you see that the fence is broken you're 99% sure where enemy light tank is. definitely worth to put few blind shots there
My highest spotting iirc is around 15k? but that was back when tier 5 lights could meet tier 10 and people didnt understand mechanics like they do now...
I used to be a fantastic scout in the French lights, once upon a time I was in the top 30 on EU for assistance in the AMX 13 57 (pre-equipment 2.0), but I put it down to knowing the game mechanics and how spotting & camo worked rather than my actual ability. Can't remember what my record was but by WN8, 5 of my top 7 tanks >100 battles were French lights. Edit: Found the WoT player stats website but my assistance record is apparently 0 after 11.4k games 😂
Those websites don't always track certain stats accurately; hell even WoT does not, on your in game Player Rating. The sites do miss things. And XVM doesn't give a crap about spotting damage at all. What a joke.
I've turned off team chat exactly to negate the behaviour of this FV4005. Even if you ignore negative chat it still plays on your mind and affects your strategy. Theres enough communication tools to bypass chat these days, and chat still works with platoon mates.
If you run binos and optics (not a common loadout for obvious reasons) the bonus for using optics directive is also applied to binocs when they're engaged.
One also needs a good enough team of players who know how to shoot and not to be spotted. I had a lot of battles, where I was spotting, but the team members were also easily spotted by enemy tanks, just because they didn't stay far enough away behind their bushes to stay hidden after shooting
Big fan of scouts, 3 marked all 8 tier 10 lights... Tesak was the most painful, thankfully the gun was fun enough to get it, but as a scout, it is awful. Felt like a heavy on some maps with my cammo. At least the Sheridan had the high base view range as compensation for the cammo value, as a scout, the tesak just sucks in every department.
Just popped in to say thanks for all the content over the years QB . I have uninstalled the game, after almost 11 years. Wishing you all the best...maybe time to try to go variety again...POE 2 might be something you would enjoy and I would enjoy seeing you min/max it . Thanks again...
I pulled of a 19k spotting game few years back. But this was before the updated Service Record update and this record was not transfered over but started as zero. I'm very sad about this. My record since is 'only' 13k so I know how many starts must align to pull something like 20k off. Great stuff. :)
I have these games all the time. I'm not the scout with the great numbers, but the bad player who dies early and thus allowing my great teammate to rack up assist. I'm clearly the real hero.
About the best scout game I ever had was ticking off LT-15 for the T 55A with honors sometime in the last 12 months; maybe middle of last year at the latest. I was in a Manticore and I sort of teamed up with a Rhm. Pzw. in a grand battle. I did the spotting and they did most of the shooting.
Really great games. Only game I ever had worth sharing is now outdated and on WoTreplays. It was a Primo Victoria Centurion, 5 kills and a confederate badge.
Got one in Churchill VII two weeks ago, I can understand it's a bizarre feeling. Could be a funny video concept : best scouting games from unexpected tanks:p
The internet breeds behaviours where people with poor levels of knowledge and skill take it upon themselves to belittle those with masses of both. What a time to be alive.
Could Malinovka have a little nerf for lights? Putting up more hills and undulations. High points should be barren and lower areas have vegetation. Currently the map feels too planer so extreme vision works.
My most insane spotting game ever was around 11k on prokorovka. It was only a first class though, which was INCREDIBLY frustrating. Interestingly enough, I think there were 3 lights tanks on my team, and they were all alive at the end of the battle (I think). Oh yeah, I got most (I can't remember how much) of that spotting on 1 hit point. Should I upload this replay? :)
Win8, back when lights topped at tier 8, I had the tier 7 French light (I forget). I spotted for 14.5 on Prokhorovka on a very close tier 10 game. I had one shot for 120 damage. My win8 (was it Win7 then?) was 214. Sigh....
14:53 I got my highest spotting game earlier this month actually. Nowhere near what these guys got, but 8.1k in not fully upgraded WZ-132 and as F2P is pretty good result for me. Don't have any tier 9-10 light tanks yet.
my 6k spotting record still comes from my centurion 7/1 played in the middle of phrokhorovka, im not enjoying lights so much with the awful maps and matchups u can get
I like to use the AMX 13 57. With the big burst it's possible to do decently even in a tier 9 matchup on a city map. The biggest disadvantage is that at tier 7 it can't mount a vision system. It basically auto-loses against a tier 8 light at scouting.
The spawn locations on Proko for taking that bush are unbalanced from the beginning of the game. North spawn's light will ALWAYS arrive there first, by a HUGE margin. Your only chance as a South spawn light there is to take the lower ground, in the bush line, and HOPE the enemy light makes a mistake and gets spotted or that his team becomes impatient and starts driving towards you and gets spotted.
Got nothing to do with this video, but whenever I see really high scouting matches I remember how I didn’t record my 19,8k scouting game in a kunze panzer last year and I get mad at myself…
That FV really wanted him to go back to garage in the 1st minute, like enemy Tesak... wtf... Dude makes sure enemy has no scout from the start, but still gets shit on.. Sometimes WoT players really make me doubt average IQ ratings.
My spotting record is 14,886 with LT-432. I was so happy after the result that I checked my replay documents, but it wasn't there. Unfortunately, the replay record was somehow disabled. Jagemonda_Sl6 EU
One of the best scouts ever = Still has someone in chat shitting on their skill.
Classic. When I did 6k in my stock tier IX WZ, I was shamed by two guys in my team who died in first two minutes with 2 shots of damage.
And the one shitting on them in chat got 500 damage 💀
@@skapslaghonestly that's not surprising at all. If ever I see someone raging in chat about their team being bad, it's almost always one of the first people to die. And then I make a point to check their post-game stats, and what a surprise, more often than not they did sub-500 damage lol
noob LT go scout = im spotting but hello 0 damage and get lit by enemy LT instant DEAD , " is it to ehm blame the team " 😂
There's always a mouth breather spitting on their Mic issuing commands from their dead tank.
One common feature between the two games is that in both cases, the enemy scout is a Czech light tank...
It's a lot easier to win the vision battle when the enemy team doesn't get a scout. Czech lights don't get nearly enough camo to do the job on Prokh or Mali.
@@vvav imo, they should be mediums rather than lights. In a match where there's only one scout per team on a map that relies heavily on scouting, a team with Czech light tanks is at a significant disadvantage.
That's why you don't see Sheridans anymore
@@BajGer12331 I've been saying this since 2017 when they first got introduced. Sheridan is, unfortunately, a useless scout, because (suprise, suprise) it gets matched up against actual scouts, and on any open map, you are at a disadvantage. That "incredible" DPM will do you no good when your team is left without an actual scout.
"Spotting - is when you die in the first 30 seconds of battle"
Some FV4005
fv just wanted to hit highrolls at the beginning of the game
"late spot" 1:31 --some embarrassed FV4005
What an absolute turd of a human being.
He litteraly started spotting in the first few secounds of the game xD
Common LT experience is your own team either telling you you're terrible or to go suicide in so they can get 1 shot before you die.
yeah fv's are the tanks you need the most patience to really get things done usually
“Oppressive” is probably the best way to describe a Manticore/ELC Even 90. If the player knows what they’re doing, it’s almost impossible to counter: you can try to flush them out with proxy spotting but 90% of the time you die before you even get in proxy spotting range, it’s such a terrifying tank in the hands of the right player
Perfect examples how 1 Tank can destroy the complete game!
They are o.p and need nerf
@@corsafreak what a blanc statement just because of one game....are you aware of all the lost games with the same manticore/elc?.....just because the team doesn't shoot at spots/doesn't hit - bad positioning?
They can be countered quite well when enemy has a wheelie played by a similar good player....
@@Jonas-sg9uq True. In 2019 when they were first introduced, people stopped playing tier X lights altogether. It was simply EBR vs EBR, because you had no way of competing with that level of active spotting. They are the reason I gave up on tier 10 lights lol. Even today, it's so easy for them to do a hero run driving straight towards your bush while you are sweating and trying to leave that position as soon as possible. Your team won't hit sh*t but their team will eat you alive. An EBR driven by a good player is STILL a scary thing.
Regardless of how well scouts do there will always be some idiot in a heavy calling the scouts trash.
Or a TD in that case
That FV4005 player epitomizes the Dunning-Kruger effect perfectly. Also, near the end of the first replay I was thinking "I had 14k spotting games at tier 8 and I have a replay to prove it"... Was I humbled afterward...
i dont think there is any need to refer wot players with psychological illness while some players are great at the game and know what they are doing but the majority i would say doesn't and i dont think it's their fault wot is a complicated game with many mechanics but still seems to be simple on the surface so in our current time where every other action game is just about rushing and that instant dopamine i think that players like the fv aren't even that bad
@@ayushman42069 Please google Dunning-Kruger effect.
Downing-Kruger effect is a logical fallacy, not a psychological illness. You can google it it's actually pretty interesting.
Dunning-Krueger is exactly what it is, some people are just insufferable as well as profoundly ignorant
@@1000yeardragon 100%
8:02 - there were good players on the enemy team, they knew that in that bush there must be a spotter so they started blind-shooting the bushes
I love how both replays had Czech lights on the enemy team getting outspotted. That's how it felt to play them
Seeing the FV (of the first replay) reminds me of that one guy in Resident Evil: Village.
,,You're stupid, you talk too much" 😂😂
I looked up the Fv4005 chatter in the first game.
48.84% win percentage over 12,225 battles.
It's ALWAYS the bad or below average players who say stuff like that. The mental jail they lock themselves in is always so sad to see. They think they're a field marshal when they can't hit the broadside of a barn from the inside.
not always the `bad` players who give you shit.
I`m @ 49% and like to play Lt`s. been pushed into fire, off a cliff Tk etc all because off my stats.
I`m in the top 98% for spot dmg.
@@anthonyhowrard526 Just FYI: Top 98% means, that 97% would be above you. What you maybe wanted to say is "better than 98% of players". Its a subtle but important difference as it changes the meaning entirely.
7:35 for some players who would like to know small tricks, yeah those type 4h shots and arty shot were intentional even if ru wasn't spotted. If your allies die in the area where selma and char died, and you see that the fence is broken you're 99% sure where enemy light tank is. definitely worth to put few blind shots there
My highest spotting iirc is around 15k? but that was back when tier 5 lights could meet tier 10 and people didnt understand mechanics like they do now...
Loved bombing around in the chaffee in t10, esp when it had the nice gold rounds
So, pardon for asking, but he was invisible to the enemy because he was not shooting and thus, not exposing himself?
This, and staying inside the bushes for the most part
Not being fooled by chat is one of the most important skills required of the best scout.
I used to be a fantastic scout in the French lights, once upon a time I was in the top 30 on EU for assistance in the AMX 13 57 (pre-equipment 2.0), but I put it down to knowing the game mechanics and how spotting & camo worked rather than my actual ability. Can't remember what my record was but by WN8, 5 of my top 7 tanks >100 battles were French lights.
Edit: Found the WoT player stats website but my assistance record is apparently 0 after 11.4k games 😂
Those websites don't always track certain stats accurately; hell even WoT does not, on your in game Player Rating. The sites do miss things. And XVM doesn't give a crap about spotting damage at all. What a joke.
I've turned off team chat exactly to negate the behaviour of this FV4005. Even if you ignore negative chat it still plays on your mind and affects your strategy. Theres enough communication tools to bypass chat these days, and chat still works with platoon mates.
Was thinking to myself what a complete wally that fv is 60 seconds into the match, then Qb points out the same thing, good job Will :)
Don't drive in a bush, became the bush! 🤣😂🤣
If you run binos and optics (not a common loadout for obvious reasons) the bonus for using optics directive is also applied to binocs when they're engaged.
I love that the first game 4005, neither one really did anything
One also needs a good enough team of players who know how to shoot and not to be spotted. I had a lot of battles, where I was spotting, but the team members were also easily spotted by enemy tanks, just because they didn't stay far enough away behind their bushes to stay hidden after shooting
Man that fv is such a piece of work
remember the old days before they completely nerfed ELC bis into the ground, used to be amazing to play
Thank you for doing what you do, QB
This wasn't just the enemy light not knowing what to do - this was the entire enemy team not knowing what to do
Average triangle player
Big fan of scouts, 3 marked all 8 tier 10 lights... Tesak was the most painful, thankfully the gun was fun enough to get it, but as a scout, it is awful. Felt like a heavy on some maps with my cammo. At least the Sheridan had the high base view range as compensation for the cammo value, as a scout, the tesak just sucks in every department.
Just popped in to say thanks for all the content over the years QB . I have uninstalled the game, after almost 11 years. Wishing you all the best...maybe time to try to go variety again...POE 2 might be something you would enjoy and I would enjoy seeing you min/max it . Thanks again...
❤
I pulled of a 19k spotting game few years back. But this was before the updated Service Record update and this record was not transfered over but started as zero. I'm very sad about this. My record since is 'only' 13k so I know how many starts must align to pull something like 20k off. Great stuff. :)
That FV trash talking ending with one shot worth of damage... what a zero thinking he's a hero.
I have these games all the time. I'm not the scout with the great numbers, but the bad player who dies early and thus allowing my great teammate to rack up assist.
I'm clearly the real hero.
Definetly my favorite time of the year for WoT content!🔥
About the best scout game I ever had was ticking off LT-15 for the T 55A with honors sometime in the last 12 months; maybe middle of last year at the latest. I was in a Manticore and I sort of teamed up with a Rhm. Pzw. in a grand battle. I did the spotting and they did most of the shooting.
Really great games. Only game I ever had worth sharing is now outdated and on WoTreplays. It was a Primo Victoria Centurion, 5 kills and a confederate badge.
I'll be honest, I return to this game every xmas. But everytime I come back you're still putting out tt content 👏
HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO YOU ALL .Y DEARS
Why is it usually the worst skilled players are the ones who are the loudest in the chat berating others.
I have mostly played lights. I can't get good enough teams for spotting damage like this.
Fun fact : both these results were achieved by "outplaying" a Czech light at the start of the battle ^_^
Boosteroid's reliability and game selection are top-tier
I can't get over the fact that 10K dmg with the Strv103B did not even get him 1.000 XP.
Got a patrol duty with a Mauschen, can't remember the overall spotting. Was both laughing and questionning my life choices after that battle
Got one in Churchill VII two weeks ago, I can understand it's a bizarre feeling.
Could be a funny video concept : best scouting games from unexpected tanks:p
It's impossible to play Czech lights without the low noise exhaust system. You get spotted from the Moon.
The internet breeds behaviours where people with poor levels of knowledge and skill take it upon themselves to belittle those with masses of both. What a time to be alive.
Could Malinovka have a little nerf for lights? Putting up more hills and undulations. High points should be barren and lower areas have vegetation. Currently the map feels too planer so extreme vision works.
Why tho? One of the few maps where light tanks are still kings. Don't need more maps to just cater to hulldown meta.
ive literally been trying to do lt15 for the t55a for years. even with maxing out my even 90 i just still cant get 7k assistance.
My most insane spotting game ever was around 11k on prokorovka. It was only a first class though, which was INCREDIBLY frustrating. Interestingly enough, I think there were 3 lights tanks on my team, and they were all alive at the end of the battle (I think). Oh yeah, I got most (I can't remember how much) of that spotting on 1 hit point. Should I upload this replay? :)
Both games highlight why WN8 is such a crap metric to judge a players ability on.
Only if your team has 100% accuracy and never miss... Most of the time my team can't even shoot off radio range and use their brains.
what an honor
Win8, back when lights topped at tier 8, I had the tier 7 French light (I forget). I spotted for 14.5 on Prokhorovka on a very close tier 10 game. I had one shot for 120 damage. My win8 (was it Win7 then?) was 214. Sigh....
14:53 I got my highest spotting game earlier this month actually. Nowhere near what these guys got, but 8.1k in not fully upgraded WZ-132 and as F2P is pretty good result for me. Don't have any tier 9-10 light tanks yet.
my 6k spotting record still comes from my centurion 7/1 played in the middle of phrokhorovka, im not enjoying lights so much with the awful maps and matchups u can get
I like to use the AMX 13 57. With the big burst it's possible to do decently even in a tier 9 matchup on a city map. The biggest disadvantage is that at tier 7 it can't mount a vision system. It basically auto-loses against a tier 8 light at scouting.
The spawn locations on Proko for taking that bush are unbalanced from the beginning of the game. North spawn's light will ALWAYS arrive there first, by a HUGE margin. Your only chance as a South spawn light there is to take the lower ground, in the bush line, and HOPE the enemy light makes a mistake and gets spotted or that his team becomes impatient and starts driving towards you and gets spotted.
what about 2 set ups, one with optics and one with binocs for maps like this?
Two setups with exhaust and vision system? I guess that is an option, but then you have nothing for city maps.
When that FV started talking smack, the Manti was already at 6K spotting. What a douche.
I had a 15xxx spotting game in my lt-432 this year.
when i scout, no one shoots who i light up
You may not have that one genius player for to play a monster game. But 29 noobs are required.
Got nothing to do with this video, but whenever I see really high scouting matches I remember how I didn’t record my 19,8k scouting game in a kunze panzer last year and I get mad at myself…
to me this is witchcraft cause i can spot a maus who is sitting flat side to my team in the open for 5 minutes and no one is gonna shoot him
The most spotting I’ve ever done was 9K in my ELC even 90
The FV4005 crying in the chat was making my blood boil....gotta love bots in their triangles shitting on LT players who know what they are doing...
I wonder if there will be no "WDR" this year...
I thought the e25 had one of the best moving camo ratings
does the bino is good on manti ?
i was in this game as FV cant believe it (the second one that did 500 i sucked this game)
u not even smart to relocate... another camp TD player that does 3 shots per round and need a light tank to do all the job for you
@@ForestGump101 ur wrong look at my overall stats before spewing some random bullshit.
@@Whirenyou’re only 54%, lots of room to improve
@@theisfnatic5551 everyone has room to improve.
11:05 anyone notice how he got spotting on the type 4 about 5 seconds after it died ??
look closely, there are 2 Type 4 on the enemy team, his team kill the Type 4s within +/- 5 secs, hence your observation. duh.
Happy turkey day quicky
That fv in first game is a complete window licker
QB this got to be the most awkward I have seen you in a video try to beat around the bush on world politics 😂😂😂
Spot 5 tanks get no spotting damage
My friend did 17600 if i remember right in his manticore on also on prokarovka but his wg rating are also like 4600? so y huge for him :D
highest spotting ever in the manticore? I never could've seen it coming. Regardless, splendidly played
i mean when you put a manticore vs a tesak game was lost from the match makeing .
There should be an explicit language warning on this video; 'Wally' is extremely offensive to the lost/hiding community
What is a "wally"??? Wally Daddy My Pew Pew?
QB what abt the EVEN 90? :C its smaller
I like how the crying fv4005 managed to get only 500dmg
wot need to change up that wn8 calculation algorithm in the next patch
That FV really wanted him to go back to garage in the 1st minute, like enemy Tesak... wtf...
Dude makes sure enemy has no scout from the start, but still gets shit on..
Sometimes WoT players really make me doubt average IQ ratings.
My spotting record is 14,886 with LT-432. I was so happy after the result that I checked my replay documents, but it wasn't there. Unfortunately, the replay record was somehow disabled.
Jagemonda_Sl6
EU
Do people think that pinging an enemy helps deal extra damage to them or something? I’ve noticed everyone likes to ping tanks like crazy
good set up and did everything righ+enemy got troll LT what is not actualy LT.
That's a lot of spotting
The problem with cvr is doing such dommage assist it’s not even impressive anymore
Risky doing this a month before the year ends😳
And I was proud of my 14810 in my ELC.....😢
~10,000 while sitting in a single bush on redshire in LHMTV
I spotted you at the xmas movie from wg. ❤😂🎉
7:55 I've seen champion players with a WN8 of 450. This means nothing.
13750 on fisherman's bay in amx 13 105
How you get "blind" unrecorded spotting damage.
shots doing damage after the enemy tank disappeared / went stealth; only applies for a couple of seconds after you're no longer spotting them
@ oh ok I did not know
second one, never ever had i a game where i could go up there and NOT be spotted xD lucker^^
How can I upload a replay?
When video in 4k??
Yeah had an enemy Tesak do +20k spotting a month ago in Proko
That was me lol
@@ralleandersen4365 lol did u send replay link to me when I asked after game? :P
@@LateDude96 hahah, yea, and you were in a Vickers
@@ralleandersen4365 haha yeah 😁
I did 17k spotting with Amx 13 90
My highest spotting is in the Udes 15/16 with 8,5 k spotting