Iconic High End Wax Comparison | Do you need to spend lots of money on car wax?
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I get a sense of satisfaction using paste wax on my cars. I think it stems from using them in my youth when the world was less hurried and we had fewer distractions.
Never tried these particular high end waxes but I do experiment with the 30ml pots of Angelwax products. Based on experience, the smaller pot will last me a lifetime! Then again, I’m 80!!
If I had a barn full of Packards and Ferraris I believe the price and necessities of these waxes are warranted. For everyday drivers perhaps not so much. The point and theme as John discusses here and humbly from my viewpoint is how these waxes make the paint look. Yes, in that regard, paste wax still rules. Good vid here - proper perspective 👌.
I think being old school, waxes used to sell themselves on durability and the warm glow and depth of colour. In the summer, like you, I'll apply a wax and have tried many, although it's funny how my wife who is disinterested in the car notices the difference and will comment I've done something different than usual.
At the moment I'm using Garage therapy 3cs and sigma for ease of use and it just works giving a great shine and gloss.
The wax however has just got that something or edge but doesn't give the longevity, maybe it's me being an old fool but still have a foot planted in both camps
It is a very good point you make on detergent resistance element of newer chemistry product vs purely organic waxes and that there is still a place for pH neutral products as a result, so as not to undo all the hard work put in waxing (and potentially cost if using an expensive wax). As with everything, it is about choosing the right product for the situation. Mark
Jon, I just applied the product on your shirt yesterday afternoon because it's unseasonably warm so I took advantage of it. I've used it before and I'm amazed at how it looks! I applied it in high noon sun and went a panel at a time and had ZERO issues removing it, very easy😎
Agreed! The 75 paste leaves an unbelievable shine. Of all the waxes and applications I've used on my flat red GTI, NOTHING has made it look better.
It's a good wax
Yeah, I really like the TW Ceramic/Graphene paste wax too. However, I find the lustre to be a colder, icy gloss shine, rather than the warm candy gloss of other waxes. What do you guys think?
love your channel.i have always had ceramic coatings.just started to use wax and i love them.dont care that they dont last,because the whole wax on,wax off procedure every few weeks is so enjoyable and meditative.
Best of Show is my favourite wax. It’s a joy to use and the finish is fantastic. I usually use two layers and then top up with Garage Therapy Sigma.
If I had £1 for every time you say "product" in this video, I'd be able to afford these waxes. Joking aside, great video as usual!
You always end answering the questions I ponder. Thank you for the constant great content! 👏 👊
I have one wax I'll always keep in the collection and in my arsenal; Wolfgang Concours Series Fuzion Wax.
There simply isn't anything that comes close to the natural glow that wax produces. It's easier to use than any spray detailer on the market and it's usually something I reserve for my more particular customers, a special thank you, or for myself.
From the business side of it, I always like products that stand out from the rest. Detailers in South Florida are a dime a dozen now and if you have that one show stopper of a product to give you that special finish only you can achieve, that sets you apart from the group.
I'm in Sarasota and I completely agree with you oversaturated! I'm always using something different and finding products that stand out.
I love that you explain the science behind products.
Thank you for this fun video. I grew up using Zamora Concours in the 80’s and 90’s and the results were amazing on old school paint. A lot of other companies tried but no one could match the depth of Concours. With modern paint Concours did not do well which is what got me back into detailing. Recently Indid use Gyeon fluorine wax on my daily driver which sits outside 24/7. I did enjoy the product and water spots were not an issue compared to modern day spray sealants which are sio2 based.
These waxes are meant for old school single stage paint and not modern day clear coat. Just for kicks it would have been interesting to see Meguiars #26 in the test and having an old school single stage test panel would be cool too.
I've used quite a few waxes in years past and I've never gotten more compliments on my car's gloss than when I was using P21S Concours Look wax, not even close. Now my cars are ceramic coated and people rarely comment on the gloss.
I didn't think it'd be there, but the Concours is available on Amazon for £220.00. You can even get the applicator towels, John refers to - for £36.00 for two! Gotta run and grab me a stash at that price.
Best of Show is phenomenal. One does have to prepare the paintwork with Swissvax Cleaner Fluid first. I have a classic car and am delighted with the results. I apply by bare hand. The process is enjoyable.
I like the video. Thank you.
I have used Zymol products for at list 20 years and with my hd cleanse first follow zymol Quadra and finally Zymol royale wax, until now I didn't see any wax or Ceramic coat close to my process Zymol tecnologies is the best. Good video.
Great video, Jon. I like all my paste waxes and the therapeutic process of applying them.👍 I have Poorboy's Nattys Blue, Vic Concours, Blackfire Ivory, Collinite 476s, Dodo Juice Purple Haze and Hard Candy and the original Fusso Coat.😎😎😎
Nice job John and nice presentation as you always do!!! I love the VINTAGE one and I have to say that thesse are special products for special cars, special owners and special needs. So we can't discuss about costs or durability or longetivity . In my opinion they represent the (luxury - high society) in their kind, as happens with cars or watches or clothing ect .... Thanks again for your nice video!!!!!!
Personal preference for me is to want a wax that protects the car. But also something that goes on and buffs off easily. I like to get the gloss with polishes and various gloss enhancing sprays, then wax over the top. (Probably doing it wrong), but some durability is a must. And as I work on a rail yard, the car gets covered in ballast dust and fallout from the locomotives so need that tougher protection to stop that contaminating the paintwork.
Cracking review. I will treat myself sometime in the near future
I tapped out at over 200 quid for a pot of wax!
These are for the specialist detailer, or enthusiast with surplus cash 💸 to wax their vintage ferrari!
The average motorists won't tell the difference between these, or some canuba wax from Maguires.
Love Swissvax and miss that look (still have mine on my shelf). What do you think about applaying a layer of swissvax, on top of a ceramic coating (Koch Chemie 1K nano) ?
a high asking price does not mean "high end" product ,just means it has a high price tag, be that wax / beauty products / Vape hardware
Results Are what define the product not the price tag
i DO wish people would Stop assuming price is a reflection of anything OTHER than price.
as you say in the video there Are waxes out there which perform better in various aspects Without the "high price tag", Autoglym UHD wax isnt a "cheap" or "expensive" neither are the BH offerings.
The thing that is the value? I think this question can be asked about pretty much everything in life. Why buy Gucci when you can buy primark, why buy a 150k Patek Phillppe when you can buy a 20quid casio. I have bought a couple ofhe Zymöl waxes, Zymöl Volvo and Zymöl Glasur because I can. I even spent £30on HD cleanse. Zymöl is absolutely amazing to use as is their QD. I have a huge range of waxes from durable to out n out show waxes. Each has a personality to put it one way. Zymöl, Swissvax are pure indulgence but I was blown away with the first use. It's not durable no but who cares, it's that much of an experience, quick a d easy to use I'll just rewax! Also an event wax that makes you feel good.
High end is a state of mind isn't it you either celebrate it or resent it
are any of them all that much better of a wax than say any of the 100%(or mostly) pure carnuba wax like the one from Meguiar's? I love Meguair's gold was, goes for about 20USD per can here in the states, it goes on fast and is easy off with a buffing wheel and the shine on a high gloss black car just looks soo deep. and the water beading action is epic.
Interesting video. I’m wondering with that extra carnauba content if you see a warmer glow on a black panel?
Would be nice to see your review of Infinity Synergy Ceramic Wax. I replaced AG UHD with it and it's has super gloss and durability. Yet to find a better wax that tick all the boxes.
What's great about this channel is even when I don't know what he's saying or what it means exactly the way he explains it he makes me feel like I do. I genuinely feel like I walk away from these videos with a little more know how.
Jon, why didnt you compare Bilt Hamber waxes? Fusso 99 old formula? Or King of Gloss Fusso?
Fusso coat for me gives a great shine and bling on my grey MX5. The durability is what does it for me. Sadly I didn't get the old batch of Fusso and had to settle for the new version but I have heard that it will last just as long as the old one in the real world.
Great video buddy.
For everyday use it’s about protection and durability, if it shines well great. But price has to be foremost in mind.
Never used any of these due to cost, I still use wax and my favourite is P21S or R222 Concours wax as it is now, a little bit more expensive than B H wax, would love to know how it would compare to the test waxes?
Yep - I use R222 concours and love it. Doesn’t last very long but when it’s done right looks fab.
👌love way to try enything. Can you believe fusso stays for 3 years on black j. Renegade? I bought a new one in December 2017, after a year I did fusso all over, no on the roof because I'm too lazy🤣. And yesterday I went back to the topic of wax. It holds 3 years and 30k kilometers. It was enough to touch it with the applicator and wipe it with microfiber. Just can't believe
Been using a tin of colinite for the last 10 yrs....that's right 10 years paid about £30 then. Best bang for buck in my opinion. Want to try the Fusso as I now have a white TT, but waiting to finish the Collys first.
would be curious if these have Ghosting issues
I gotta send you pictures of my zymol on my Mini. I also used Zymol HD - Cleanse to prep the paintwork
Still love wax, loads of sealants and coatings but prefer wax in the summer. For the record I own or have owned, swissvax best of show, migilore primo v1, various low end zymol waxes eventually leading me to purchase a full size zymol vintage (yes at £2.3k) and glasur, i prefer vintage by a long way imo. It is my absolute favourite and it feels far more of an event than other protection products. (waxing in general).
Are coatings and even sealants technically superior yes, but having coated cars I got bored lost the love and went back to wax because I love cleaning. I don't think expensive wax should be limited to classics either, my 640d and previous mx5 both got vintage....
I use Swissvax Shield and Swissvax Crystal Rock. The later one costs a fortune but the shine is intense. So is the longevity.
I'm 51, so of course I've had many experiences with paste waxes. Turtle Wax, Meguiar's, Zymol(Carbon, Crème, Japon, Destiny, Conclurs). Waxes are ok. I still have Collinite 845/476s along with Fusso coat. I'm a ceramic fan. Options are nice! There are plenty of choices for all of us!
Disappointed not to see a wax from BMD, hands down a major player in the wax market. Please feature the range in an upcoming video, I'm sure a lot of viewers will be pleasantly blown away. 👍🏻
Jon do you have ghosting issues with Bilt Hamber waxes? In the extreme humidity of south florida some waxes will ghost and bloom the next morning and you cant rebuff.
Once with double speed 2 years ago. I would not use it 8n high humidity Dave.
If you’re a real head, you’ve been waiting for this
What's your experience or opinion on Angelwax Enigma as a higher end wax?
He had the shirt on for TW 75 Paste Wax, wish he had thrown it in there for scale.
Last time I applied best of show I remember it lasted 5 months with using there car bath shampoo then I stripped it to apply a different wax.
I believe it can hold up to 6months
I still prefer wax over coatings and I still believe that waxes gives u a different kind of finish that is not all ways about the gloss.
While some coating gives us a glassy mirror glossy shine to me it feels cheap plasticky dulled in my eyes and no depth in color or wetness like some waxes do
Super happy i managed to get Scholl. It is waiting for the summer though.
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These are for car shows, if you want the best in the summer months when the shows are on. What can compare to BoS in the newer tech waxes/si?
I think r222 compares but it's not new
I've got a few paste waxes, autoglym HD, SOFT99 KYWAMI, and Swisswax BOS to name a few swisswax do a smaller pot that is £85 or was when I got it. For gloss I'd have to say it's between the Kywami and the BOS I've never put them against each other but you can get some similar results or at least by eye, I lack a gloss meter.
I use meguiers tech wax maybe oldin days but works for me
I will stick with my Bilt Hamber, bought a 200ml pot in 2020 and polish every 2 months and still have half of it left; how can they justify charging these prices???
Polish every 2 months? DSW can last at least 3/4, up to 6 if it's topped up with a spray on sealant like Touch on.
What about long term lasting, no washing like a show car or museum piece????
Thanks Jon, never seen a proper reviews of Swissvax, I guess too expensive for most, good job you are absolutely minted matey hey :-)))))))
Surprised you haven't got a 5litre tub of it !!
Seriously though, some great advice coupled with a proper review, and you really do get that slight 'extra' quality with any of these.
I'll stick with my Bilt Hamber double speed wax, it's almost as good I'm sure, and about a 20th of the price.
I have been using ceramics for a bit now but I still love my zymol and there is definitely something that a good wax does to paint that ceramics don't.... Like if I were going to a car show I would go wax all the way... when I apply zymol... I would fully clay the car then polish/hd-cleanse then you can feel pretty safe about applying the zymol by with your bare hands... one you can really quickly tell if you missed a spot on the paint if you feel anything rough which you shouldn't at that point... but also using your hands the wax spreads longer and thinner so you use less... if you rub your hands together really quick it will reheat the wax and you can get a little bit longer application time... zymol is still one of my favorites... the other thing I miss about using waxes... is that as long as the paint is really clean and well maintained you can usually just reapply another coat whenever.... where ceramics its like you really should go through the whole process. ZYMOL's newest version of hd-cleanse added si02 to the mix as well... which is applied before the wax....
I am old enough to have gone through all the LSP products. Wax, polymer sealants, now coatings. And to be honest I think on a daily driver, a coating makes a lot of sense. On a toy I drive on the weekend and it sits in the garage? I really enjoy he act of waxing or sealing and I am just not that concerned about ultimate protection provided I keep a good sealant and a layer of wax over it.
I would love you to do a review in the naviwax products and waxes.
I use and rate them very highly.
I’m probably stuck in the past, but I’ll take a high quality wax over a ceramic coating every time. Namely UHD. It’s just so easy for the resulting outcome.
I used simoniz wax afew years back and thought it was brilliant at repelling water lasted about 3-4 months with a regular weekly wash. it was abit hard to get off but at the end my car looked amazing at £7 a tub not bad. Would be good to see how cheap Waxs stand up to the top brands.
Thank you. Nooo one ever mentions good old-school Simoniz. STLL a very good wax.
To be honest it's a good wax but people just don't want to spend the time and effort anymore and I did feel like I spent the day at the gym after tho 🤣
@@carlwilkinson3683 ya that can be a downside although...I still use it semi-regularly as I love the look and finish it gives the flat red paint on my GTI. I found that using a damp microfiber applicator and just applying a very thin coat on a (at most) panal at a time and removing immediately works pretty well. I also will follow that up with a 10' orbital buffer to finish - killer look!
Absolutely agree. Simoniz gold tin is an excellent all round wax. Glorious warm glow to black paintwork, superb water repellence and 3 month plus longevity. Last time I applied it with a DA polisher using a black finishing pad that had been lightly spritzed with TAC Systems Shinee spray wax as a primer and it looked beautiful. Water repellence was like a ceramic coating on the first few washes until it settle in to a good bead/sheet combination. I took it off after 8 weeks because I wanted to tinker with some other products but it was still going strong. These products are more about giving yourself some kind of 'feel good' moment rather than about the wax characteristics. Maybe I'll try one and be hooked, who knows?
@@mikestrong719 nice to hear Mike. Can hardly believe there's a stream here talking about Simoniz. If worked right is not difficult to apply and remove and - oh man - the finish!
Jon can I ask what you did with these after this video?
What if any Wax can you use in this damp climate as waiting for it to cure is a nightmare
I don't have a garage so need a wax that cures in damp weather conditions any suggestions 👍👍
they will all cure in damp weather but you dont really want the car to get rained on. something like double speed wax from BH for 14 quid cures fast and dries quicker and has no oil in it.
Use to use these waxs but they just sit there now as I like to use ceramics & even gyeons new wax as you can apply it over ceramics safely 👌
The happiness of going into the garage and just adding another layer of wax onto one of the hobby cars.
Totally agree about the icon status of BoS and it is a kind of rip off, but see how much we all spend on cars and classics and it is a bit of a rip off from A to Z.
Have you ever seen the paint under the clear coat having very fine lines? This is on my 99 tahoe and she still shines very nicely but I see all these fine lines under it now. Can I save her?
Sounds like sanding marks
school- longer it sits, better to remove. I left it for two days straight and removal was a brisk. Just do the whole car and get back the next morning. Or the next one.
So I understand the whole effort that goes in to them and the high grade materials, however what do we all want from protection? Longevity , if a £14.99 wax protects and last as long if not longer then I know which one id go for , however if I was minted then I'd love to have a pot of them , I am still a paste wax guy still can't beat it
Also I'm starting the rumor that this man is really Bilt Hamber ......
What about angelwax enigma ?
I've had the smaller pot of BOS and I've put it on one of my cars , left overnight then buffed next day , wasn't that hard to buff 👍
Yep,, I'm so glad I have my 20 year old tub of Collinite 476s, in the garage,, I use it regularly,, (once every couple of years,) whether the car needs it or not,,,, rofl...
How does the autoglym ultra high definition wax compare to these three?
its just as good
Thanks for this question and answer. I was just considering a high end wax to go with the car I’m having delivered tomorrow. Now I reckon I’ll stick with AG UHD as I know exactly how it performs.
Name of the chemical car wax please
Durability key for me. I'm not sure I would notice these small improvements in gloss levels. I wouldn't use one of these on my Honda Jazz for example. That said, it's a bit like cameras, to get marginal improvements you have to spend many times the price of a merely "good" camera. If I had a Ferrari I might think differently!
Having zymol concourse, school vintage, and some more waxes like fireball, carchem. I tend to say BH Finis is the best wax in the world. Still I keep and even collect some other waxes. But for the all around do it all including looks product - damn Finis rocks hard. I'd love to see Bilthamber doing the next step and introducing a finis quadruple hi-end version with some improvements. Id buy instantly :D So having the best wax in the world name Finis, perfect show wax named Vintage, having zymol concourse at my shelf as the other show wax.. I have also zymol carbon and pinacle souveran in delivery and aiming for some other :D
Fini is nice
Would love to hear your thoughts on Absolute Wax
Jon I am sure I've seen were zymol sell for 5k 6k and you get it refilled for life but not if your a business user
That doesnt make sense at all
Id love to have a pot of any of them on my shelf, but if I paid £250 for a pot of wax, I think my wife would divorce me . I do love applying wax though, I gave my Dads car a good decon wash last weekend. Its a fairly new car so wasnt to bad, I finished it off with Fusso coat (the old one) and he was well impressed. Reason I used it ? I know it will last him through the winter months, so piece of mind for him. The three waxes on review, for me are dedicated show waxes and not one you would use regular, even if you could afford to. They are the best of the best, so you take your car to a show, you are not gonna apply Fusso coat are you ??
I got told a story expensive wines once......basically they say in the wine world "anything under £10 and your paying for the bottle and the shipping" which basically leaves the wine shite......."anything between £10 -£50 and your getting serious wine" and "anything over £50 your paying for the advertising"
Can't remember the exact figures but u get the point. Wine is just grapes......carunba wax, is just carnauba at the end of the day, u can package it up as much as u want but it's still carunba......just a little insight, I will definitely buy the Scholl, the gloss that I see in Ur other video from that wax blew me away and definitely justify a premium price.
End of the day, these waxes will probably do 10 cars, so your still getting value
Unicorn tears are expensive!😁
Used Best in Show many years ago when I had a 57 reg VW R32 in black. Wonderful wax but hated the car. Bought brand new and sold after 9 months at a huge loss.
What was wrong with it, just curious🤔
@@klasseact6663 I think they were trying to make a more grown up car than the previous model and had just taken all the fun out of it. Previous model was a proper hooligan and mine wasn't sure what it was. Well made, comfortable, fast and sounded great but souless and not really any fun to drive. Swapped it for a Suzuki Swift Sport and drove the wheels off it. Great fun car.
@@antonychesters9803 thanks for the response Anthony, glad you found something you liked😇
Idk i still love wax not the liquid version altho a liquid wax on a da is easy to apply and its faster. Apply a paste wax may be tired but the satisfaction especially the meguiar red can/tin paste wax has this fruitty smell which i love!
I'd never py that much money for a wax
Fusso 99 would club these products, plus it clears your sinus
Duragloss 501+601 is king hands down.
Too expensive for what you get, I could buy 3 CK Quartz 3.0 (30 mil container $90.00 each) for the price of 1 swissvax in Canada (the price for the smallest container is $275.00 pre tax!!!) Also for the protection you get for me it's not worth the effort of all of the work you must do.
No paste wax is really worth the money, but they are fun. Plus some people want a product that is very expensive so they can feel like they have the very best. It's not a rip-off because it satisfies those people.
yes Im like this Joe, I sort of want these high end waxes. Im going to buy the swissvax one.
oo I've been waiting for this for a while! will watch soon just gotta shower lol
I'd love to hear your opinion on dodo juice, I've been "detailing" as a hobby for a long time now and tend to use supernatural and always believed it was a great wax but I don't have the extensive knowledge of waxes like yourself.
Supernatural is a cracking wax, just finished a tub last week, lasted several years. I've recently been using In2detailing's ceramic infused wax and that is excellent, because it is so easy to apply (need a bit more elbow grease for the Supernatural). I prefer it over Bilt Hamber's Double Speed wax for the same reason.
@@SteveLBMK yeah I'd really like to see how it does against some new waxes in these tests tho I still have a near full tub of it and unless I start Ceramic coating my car then I'll keep it for mine at least, but I might start using soft 99 on any other cars I do
@@Vdubkid616 I'm sure it would do very well, although some of the newer waxes are probably a bit easier to apply. I've always loved Dodo Juice's products but they seem to have fallen off most people's radar (in the UK, anyway) in recent years.
I like sn hybrid for a winter wax, it is easy to use and lasts 4-5 months, hard candy is nice to use and smells so mmm, the sn nano wax is so hard it makes it difficult to use imo, my experience with ceramic waxes is that they bead well and last ages but they have all been a pain to buff off making them not something I don't want to use, there are some amazing waxes that are easy to use. Dodo Juice make their waxes in small tubs too so you can experiment and not spend too much, there are loads of collectors out there so you can sell unwanted waxes if you want.
Surely these are show car waxes rather than real world products. They need to look good once and should never really need to be driven. So surely the value comes from the wax that gives the ultimate finish. If more modern waxes can get an equal finish quality, these waxes are unjustified. If, however they can achieve a better finish, then the premium may be justified. So the question really is: why are there no "control" waxes?
Yes they're nice to work with but still, how much nicer than modern enthusiast alternatives, or even Halford's favourite Auto Glym UHD?
Nice Video! 👍🏻
Expensive for sure but classics to be I assume.
What do you think about the Soft99 The King Of Gloss Wax?
Is not king on gloss but boy... king of durability imo
👍 Are you referring to the Soft99 Fusso coat ? Or Soft99 The King of Gloss, thats actually 2 different products, but for durability definitely the Soft99 Fusso coat by far...
@@rxdetailer1424 my bad... was referring to fusso coat
@@Carlos.Rivera , all good then and I agree yes durability is tops
Angelwax enigma is my choice of wax from your previous review and it's absolutely fantastic. Seriously glossy, hydrophobic and really durable. It's expensive but it's really worth it 👌🤙👌🤙
Same here....... i have been using Enigma and Fifth element for quite a while now and they are great.
@@K2edg what's the fifth element like? Much of a different between enigma?
Enigma is great that should be in this comparison really
I hope Angelwax release their graphene wax
@@geirnaert I don't think they need to release a graphene wax personally as I genuinely can't see anything beating enigma, it's amazing stuff 👌
Hi Jon, can you give me a bit of advice regarding storing waxes such as these. I got my first paste wax (wowos) for Christmas (last year) which is about £40-50 so not super expensive like these but its by far the most expensive that I've ever had. But, I haven't managed to use it yet while I use up my Collinite 845. Last thing I want is for the paste wax to go off or become ruined before I get round to using it. What would you do for storing it in terms of location and anything else i need to be wary about?
I have read on forums that people store them in their fridges, can't say I've ever heard of that before, sounds strange to me but wanted to get your thoughts on that too. Currently its in my garage so in summer will get hot and winter freezing, thinking about putting it in the fridge based on those few posts.
Many thanks.
In the UK just store in garage. 8n really hot climate you could store in a cooler just to stop it melting if it gets day north of 40 am
Top brand on wax 👍
What is the point of having an expensive wax if it’s not durable. I thought that was the point. Place a wax on the car that lasts at least 12 months. Maybe another look I like is a wet look and or deep look but it must be durable. Anyway, thanks again Jon for a great review.
for gloss and price cant go wrong with gyeon and if work up a sweat use on arm pits!
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Jon would you apply Fusso by hand LOL, you’d be all hydrophobic!
If money was no object good luck to you. I'll stick with poorboys nattys blue, excellent value for money and lasts a good 3 months
Jesus how much Dave if it's 30 quid or more may I start crying
BoS is an epic wax