I use SGC and PSA both, and I really like SGC although they 100% are unfairly tough on certain vintage cards right now. I have sent them really valuable near-mint to mint vintage stuff and I have gotten a lot of 5.5 and 6 grades on near perfect 1950s cards. It's extremely annoying from a company I want to be able to send cards to. I sent them a near-mint 1956 Harmon Killebrew 30 days ago, the card was marked near mint by Greg Morris, and when I got the card it looked at least that good to me. Just got it back from SGC and they gave it a 3. It's laughable. I wish grading companies had to answer for some of their ridiculous outlier grades once in a while. No recourse at all for that in this hobby.
Bro I had the same EXACT thing happen to me. I sent in 10 T206 cards and EVERY SINGLE ONE got graded 2 numbers LOWER than what they really were. Bummed me out cause I was really excited to start using them, but now I'm scared to ever send them anything again lol
Great video, for me since I am a Vintage collector I have decided to use SGC. I think Vintage looks great in their slabs and that they grade vintage extremely well. I also think they will continue to close the resale gap but since I am collecting for my own PC it is all about the look for me.
I have really come around on SGC in the last couple years since re-entering the hobby. As mainly a vintage guy myself, I like the tux look, EXCEPT for black border cards like '71 Topps.
The new bulk turnaround time now is 45 days for CSG. I just did an economy and got it back in 17 days. I like what’s going on there and all the changes they made.
Same here, my last 50 with CSG was Jimmy John's fast lol. I've been using them since they started as they aren't new to the grading world. They are leaders in coins comic's RPG cards, and much more. So makes sense for then to start doing sports cards. They flopped allittle with sub grades n then quick label change but they are honest, customer support is top notch, card grade prices are still great, and from experience with there other departments I know they will work to become better and better without scamming or skeeming us collectors. CSG for me from here on.
Same here…I also like the low grade vintage and CSG’s original slab was gorgeous to me. Something about a 3 or 4 well centered that I really like. Happy Hunting.
@@BringingTheHeat-VBC Sounds like Mike has got all his money in SGC nice slab's 😂 Why do you care what I buy Mike? Now you get all the SGC and oc PSA 10s that I don't buy dude you win!!!
Another great and informative video! You are the best! I am a long time Vintage collector over 50 years. Even though I will buy PSA cards, SGC is the only company I submit to after horrible experiences with both CSG and HGA.
Great video! I’ve only used SGC and HGA. I’ve had no issues with either company. Resell was higher for me with HGA, but could be the cards I sold. HGA slabs are very solid and sturdy. Thicker than Beckett. I’ve yet to use PSA as I don’t have a card I deem worthy to send to them and get a good grade. If and when I can get a higher end Burrow type card, then I’ll use them. Thanks for input.
CSG backlog is low so its pretty fast, like 45 days bulk order. Love their new slab look on image, waiting for 50 reholdered cards i sent in. Good stuff as always chris!
At moment I have ZERO interest to grade my cards. Between high prices and pop report manipulation by PSA, I'd rather just use my funds to buy quality raw cards and sealed boxes for long term investment. Thanks for the update Chris. I do like the look of the SGC tux slabs, especially on vintage.
I've used psa, hga & sgc in the last year. I have had a good experience with each. One of the fastest turnarounds I had was the psa $50 events which is funny given they have two old orders of mine more than a year old.
I collect vintage only. SGC is my choice. Resale value improving. I believe in the future, the gap will narrow further, as vintage collectors are happy with SGC mid-range cards, particularly star cards. I have a "ran over by a truck" 56T Jackie Robinson, which I submitted and, not surprisingly, got a 1. While I have no intention of selling it, rather keeping it for my PC, the $30 I spent on getting it slabbed, even at a 1, immediately increased its value by a few hundred.
I sent cards to HGA back in September for the 60 day turn around and finally got them in March. They had some issues with a Covid outbreak, staff turn around, and all the other stuff that comes with the territory of being a new company but what bothered me most was their lack of communication throughout the process. When I did reach out to their customer service team they're response was rather rude and made me feel like I was the bad guy for even asking for an update. Otherwise I think the slabs are great! The custom labels are awesome, especially for a PC cards. HGA was recently bought out and will no longer be accepting new submissions until they can get caught up. Hopefully the new guys will come in, streamline the process, and make HGA more competitive in the field.
For PC ill give you-i do like the look and feel of the slabs and the labels are fine. However theyve made a mistake with 9.5 being their gem mint. No one likes that, just ask beckett.
SGC's $30 price also includes a cool feature - high-resolution .JPG files for the front and back of your cards that you can download immediately after grading is complete.
I like HGA there the best looking slab in the market & they continue to change the game on how we collect like offer horizontal slabs & custom labels. I hope there new partners come together & revive this company.
I would use any of the top 4, I would only send my top dollar cards to bgs or psa though. I never had hga so I wouldn’t know. It’s good to use the combination of top graders instead of one. Sometimes I would crack my bgs 9.5 and send it to psa to try to get a 10. If you have majority 9.5 grades and no 9s, you would most likely get a 10 from my experience.
PSA is clearly #1, but nothing would be more healthy for the hobby than for them to be challenged from a resale value standpoint. I really don't care for SGC's slabs, but am open to using them for vintage. I would love to see BGS get their house in order and for them and CSG to match PSA's resale values in more modern cards.
Beckett needs you as an employee to make improvements and regain a sustainable competitive advantage or at least keep a strong 2nd position behind PSA.
I used HGA once. I changed credit cards and called to tell them. They never updated it and sent me my cards without charging me.... A rare mistake in my favor.
PSA recently just screw up my auto authentication submission.......not only they let the card sat at wrong department for almost 5 months(2021 Oct to 2022 Jan) and when I finally able to get in touch with them. Instead do what I paid for it(authenticated and slab the card), they put a PSA authenticated stick on the back of the Card and they refuse to take responsibility for their mistake(zero compensation). Very Disappointing.
I'm a fan of CSG and they have been great so far. I don't like the new labels as much and why the no sub-grades now??? I also have an order in at HGA, but they are taking a very long time to even start looking at the cards I sent them.
for the actual plastic slab CSG is the best. its crystal clear but overall SGC is doing great right now, very consistent grading, cheap to grade and fast turn around times. you know what to expect when u send a card to them. sgc is doing great
Yeah, I'm pretty sure with this company's track record HGA is only temporarily shutting down. HGA would have been on it's way to bankruptcy court. It's not an investment worth breaking apart. So obviously the new owners have big plans.
I own a card shop and I move way more SGC modern than I do HGA and at a higher price point, if HGA is not Gem Mint grade, there's no bump in price over raw.
"Beginning on April 20th, 2022, we are placing a temporary suspension on ALL submissions. Submissions will reopen when we are sure that we are able to hit our delivery promises, starting with 60-day submissions, and opening 30-day, 10-day, and 2-day services shortly after."--per HGA's website. I sent a card into them, just to see how service was...and this happened.
Just a word of advice for people that claim to not worry about resale value and only collect for personal collection. I sold my collection about 16 years ago to pay lawyers to get custody of my son which I did get. If I only worried about Orioles cards (which I do have an awesome collection of) I wouldn't have been able to sell them really fast. Unfortunately there was a Michael Jordan Rookie, a yellow babe Ruth card and ton of other iconic cards. The thing is you never what life will bring but having iconic cards in your PC collection allows for quick liquidation if the time arises when needed. I also used my collection as collateral on a loan to buy a Chesapeake bay front home when I was 25 years old. Without the cards I would have lost the deal on the house.
I totally agree with your final evaluation except for value with ultra modern going to hga over sgc. Sgc has come a very long way with the value of ultra modern, especially in baseball.
I would not recommend HGA for speed right now. I put in a standard order in October and as of today it has not been worked on. I’m having PSA flashbacks!
I haven't sent anything in to get graded in several years. I can't believe how much it costs for grading these days. I paid like $12/card for PSA grading the last time I sent something in. They have basically taken grading cards worth less then a few hundred bucks out of the question. How is this a good thing and why did they do this?
GREED. They don't care about the health of the hobby or the true collectors. They only seem to cater towards the big money submitters. Those guys get 10s.
I’ll say for me psa and sgc are the top 2. I love Beckett slabs but they have been terrible with price and turnaround time. I’ve sent two different orders to hga. The current “60 day submission” I sent in November is still on step 1.
SGC grades so hard though and inconsistently, I sent 5 cards in, most I thought were a 10 or 9.5 All i got back were 10s and 9s which was odd and I couldn't tell a difference between the 9s and 10s
Again Chris your research and knowledge are second to none. I liked the CSG cases with subs I was confused as to why they changed. SGC especially with T206 cards are closing the gap massively and like you said look so good with the black borders. Red and green portraits look better in a SGC case, then PSA in my opinion. Great job maybe see you at the national this year!
You are right about csg in resale but it is good for budget investors to get cheap cards in slabs cheaper. I ha e never sent cards in because of un certainty. But I like to get graded cards for 7 or 10 dollars on ebay because of grade.
Gr8 video Chris.. Love your thoughts on the different grading company's.. PSA will stay on top for the foreseeable future but I'm digging the new CSG label's.. Stay safe all..👍💕🔥⚾🤗🤙
I've only sent PC stuff to HGA and I have to say the quality of the slabs are solid. The custom labels look great. I haven't had any ,"Huh??? Grades" like I've had with PSA. Only issue with HGA is the 60 business day order took 153 business days and overall 7 months from received to shipped. I haven't submitted anything to PSA since my last quarterly specials took 16 months to get back and I got a bunch of mislabeled, ungraded, bizarre grades back on 2020 MLB, NFL, NBA. SGC has been getting me orders back in 17-25 business days on my 1960s-1990s MLB/NFL cards. Four submissions so far and everything has been fast and fair matching what I graded the cards myself before I send any card off for grading. Have never used CSG/BGS however I have picked some slabs up for the PC. New CSG labels finally got me to pick one up since the old green labels just kept me away. In the meantime I'm just staying away from grading until all these companies can control the backlogs. Would really like some fair prices & turnaround times again.
When I started collecting graded cards in 2013-14, I liked BGS for the familiarity to the name, and the subgrades. It wasn't much time before I switched over to PSA. I liked the uniform slabs that looked pretty nice with evey card. I also liked the fact they tended to be worth more. I kept rolling with PSA for about 6 or 7 years before I decided to purchase both an HGA slab and an SGC slab. I was impressed with HGA's slab but not so much the label. Their grading scale is a little weird too compared to the BGS subgrade total. The SGC slab I was really impressed with in hand. I love SGC for vintage. Some newer cards look nice in the tuxedo as well. But things like the Jordan RC, not so much. I currently rank them PSA, with SGC in a very close second and maybe even 1st for vintage, BGS in a solid 3rd, and HGA and CSG, are my outliers.
@@collectorinvestordealer I appreciate the videos and your insight. Been watching these since the beginning. You remind me of myself in a lot of ways with the things you say. Had we grown up in the same neighborhood as kids, I'm sure we would have been card traders. 😆
I only use SGC at this point and most of the already graded cards I buy are also SGC. I love the look of their slabs and their customer service is great. The only modern I collect is Topps Heritage. I have been sending in Red Ink Autos and other high end cards to them and they grade them fairly and they look great. These cards are long term holds for me, and I really think over time they will catch up with PSA. PSA is making improvements, but they have. left a sour taste in my mouth from their complete mishandling of things for a couple of years there.
I have an 83 Topps Sandberg and a 83 Topps gwynn, I'm debating in weather to send them off to psa or Beckett, the Sandberg to my eyes is almost flawless. Any suggestions would help
I think long term CSG will be a real competitor to PSA. The slabs are just nicer and clearer. The plastic on the SGC slabs just suck otherwise I’d be more supportive of them.
I've sold HGA Marvel cards for more than PSA is going for in the same grades. As well as sports for close to PSA prices in the same grades. If you're able to be patient you can do that with any company I would think. Not to mention, PSA is losing ground to everyone else it seems with all the scandals and ridiculous backlog that will probably be another couple years before they are caught up
Psa is out because of inconsistent grading especially older slabs. Psa has been caught grading fake and modified trimmed cards. Psa also has proven more and more they are trying to control the pop report based on the cons I have mentioned. BSG has been caught grading fake cards that's it's only con. SCG is to kind to collectors and often give high grades that's it's only con. CSG (CGC) although new has the most strictest graders and is very consistent across the board. Again CSG is new and will definitely be on top just needs more time. CSG although new has ties to CGC which has been grading collectibles for some time now.
Unfortunately grading has become too costly but because of the trend toward trimming cards it has become necessary. I focus primarily on vintage and prefer SCG and PSA. Hopefully in time SCG will close the gap on resale value with PSA.
I’ve never submitted cards for grading, but I’ll certainly buy one already graded. I like the SGC look especially for vintage cards. However, I buy a card I want and can afford regardless of the slab it is in. I have cards in less desired slabs because I wanted the card. I don’t think I have any HGA graded slabs yet. They do stand out.
Chris, your research team is doing ok, but your editing department needs a stern talking to: Grading Standards: PSA - "consitency" is ok. No soup for them! 🤣
SGC is a solid company with consistent grades…but I like having a uniform collection (PSA) and completely recognize I’m paying too much for that uniformity.
Just got a look at my new order from CSG with their ALL NEW black labels and they are far superior than their old green labels. One little remark I have though, being a graphic artist, is the spacing on their 1/2 grades, i.e. 8.5, 9.5 etc, seems like they should be closer together however that could just be me as well as simply being used to seeing SGC's 1/2 grades. But, looking at PSA 1/2 grades, their spacing isn't spectacular either and ever notice how their spacing on their labels isn't exactly centered. Just some thoughts.
What is the 'expected' value of the card based on? -a grade of 10? seems very objective. I have a could cards which if at 10 could be over $1k, if a 8, then much much less. Thanks
For me it's, PSA, SGC, BGS, SGC, CGC Not a fan a HGA, some people like the different labels that match...I don't. I love 1 basic simple label for every card
Sgc people I have seen so many psa slabs with 10 that should have been 8 or 9 they just put grad on them sgc is so on I got at lest 300 cards graded cards and no complaints
I’m not a fan of HGA anymore. Never see a bad grade from these guys. So I don’t buy HGA. CSG is the toughest and most consistent of the graders IMHO. LOVE the look of SGC slabs. Great video Chris!
So please explain to me why I paid $150 for PSA express for 1 card, no autograph just normal grading, and they received my order in February, and it is still in "assembly" stage as of April 21st. There was a 1 business day hold which was quickly resolved back in early March. I'm hearing a lot of people saying quick turnaround times. Called customer service 3 times and told everything is normal for my service time with express tier. The last express CTD was updated April 11th as 3/2/2022. Any insight into what is taking them so long to grade 1 card?
@@collectorinvestordealer Order Type: PSA Express (direct submission to PSA) # of cards: 1 (regular card, no autograph) Order received per PSA: 2/28/2022 Order Entered by PSA: 3/4/2022 Research & ID: ? Grading: ? Assembly: 4/7/2022 QA1: morning of 4/21/2022 QA2: morning of 4/22/2022 Grades/Shipped: Not yet graded/shipped. I'll let you know if they ship me the wrong card, a fake card, or if they never ship the order.
Always a great thing to see 9s lined-up across the board to compare the companies on an apples-to-apples basis! 89 UD Griffeys from your earlier vid: ruclips.net/video/ZiT9eprnGYU/видео.html; 87 Topps McGwires: ruclips.net/video/-YIXpEmH2yE/видео.html
SGC never fails, I’m getting cards back in like 3 weeks
SGC is my favorite! The all black just looks amazing.
Resale value is still inferior on a 10 grade vs PSA
@@playmaker88x51 That’s true, but for my PC I want my cards slabbed in a SGC case. I personally think PSA slabs looked old and boring.
Good video. I've ONLY used SGC and with things the way they are lately I have no plans to change.
Does SGC charge more based on declared value? Thanks.
@@tommayrant2279 no, if your cards qualify for a particular service level that is the price you pay
I use SGC and PSA both, and I really like SGC although they 100% are unfairly tough on certain vintage cards right now. I have sent them really valuable near-mint to mint vintage stuff and I have gotten a lot of 5.5 and 6 grades on near perfect 1950s cards. It's extremely annoying from a company I want to be able to send cards to. I sent them a near-mint 1956 Harmon Killebrew 30 days ago, the card was marked near mint by Greg Morris, and when I got the card it looked at least that good to me. Just got it back from SGC and they gave it a 3. It's laughable. I wish grading companies had to answer for some of their ridiculous outlier grades once in a while. No recourse at all for that in this hobby.
Bro I had the same EXACT thing happen to me. I sent in 10 T206 cards and EVERY SINGLE ONE got graded 2 numbers LOWER than what they really were. Bummed me out cause I was really excited to start using them, but now I'm scared to ever send them anything again lol
@@billybats4745 Absolutely, I think they should be careful. CSG had an issue where a lot of vintage people thought they were just being way too tough
I think it would be great for the hobby if SGC was more embraced for modern cards. They are run really well and great at what they do.
Great video, for me since I am a Vintage collector I have decided to use SGC. I think Vintage looks great in their slabs and that they grade vintage extremely well. I also think they will continue to close the resale gap but since I am collecting for my own PC it is all about the look for me.
Total trust of SGC grading and does look good(new slabs), but hate that the open market resale value just hardly if ever matches PSA results.
SGC is definitely the best choice from cost to consistent grading and turnaround times.
I have really come around on SGC in the last couple years since re-entering the hobby. As mainly a vintage guy myself, I like the tux look, EXCEPT for black border cards like '71 Topps.
SGC all day long! Love the look, quality of holder, and trust their grading. My entire collection is almost all SGC.
I love the thickness and sturdiness of the BGS slab it really feels like my card is safe.
SGC has impressed me the last 2 years. Lots of my pc going to them and my set building to PSA.
Great insight to those of us who are getting back into the hobby!
The new bulk turnaround time now is 45 days for CSG. I just did an economy and got it back in 17 days. I like what’s going on there and all the changes they made.
45 days with CSG for bulk. However, I have had a bulk order back in my hands 10 days from when I shipped it to them. I'm impressed with CSG.
Same here, my last 50 with CSG was Jimmy John's fast lol. I've been using them since they started as they aren't new to the grading world. They are leaders in coins comic's RPG cards, and much more. So makes sense for then to start doing sports cards. They flopped allittle with sub grades n then quick label change but they are honest, customer support is top notch, card grade prices are still great, and from experience with there other departments I know they will work to become better and better without scamming or skeeming us collectors. CSG for me from here on.
The new CSG slabs are super nice.
I really like Sgc for vintage and Csg for more modern cards. I feel like both are on the way up.
I liked the green label CSG and now I like them even more! There won't be much out there down the road I'm grabbing all the 9 and higher I can!
Same here…I also like the low grade vintage and CSG’s original slab was gorgeous to me. Something about a 3 or 4 well centered that I really like. Happy Hunting.
I liked the old label as well, I think they just needed to tweak the fonts and design a bit.
@@BringingTheHeat-VBC Sounds like Mike has got all his money in SGC nice slab's 😂
Why do you care what I buy Mike? Now you get all the SGC and oc PSA 10s that I don't buy dude you win!!!
CSG has been killing it with their turnaround times. I'm getting my 2 month order back in 1 month.
Man, I am so glad you are not forcing me to eat my vegetables anymore! I was getting pretty sick of all that broccoli!
You are still required to eat your vegetables!
@@collectorinvestordealer Ah, man!!!!
100% SGC for baseball ... looks so Classy!
Another great and informative video! You are the best! I am a long time Vintage collector over 50 years. Even though I will buy PSA cards, SGC is the only company I submit to after horrible experiences with both CSG and HGA.
CSG is awesome and very underrated
Amazing breakdown as always! Thanks Chris!
Great video! I’ve only used SGC and HGA. I’ve had no issues with either company. Resell was higher for me with HGA, but could be the cards I sold. HGA slabs are very solid and sturdy. Thicker than Beckett. I’ve yet to use PSA as I don’t have a card I deem worthy to send to them and get a good grade. If and when I can get a higher end Burrow type card, then I’ll use them.
Thanks for input.
Great update Chris on the current landscape of the biz!
I sent 84 cards to PSA when it was $10 a card in February 21 and I'm still waiting.
CSG backlog is low so its pretty fast, like 45 days bulk order. Love their new slab look on image, waiting for 50 reholdered cards i sent in. Good stuff as always chris!
Woohoo 50k!! Super grats man!! You deserve your stadium now :)
Great content Chris! Keep up the good work 👍
I'm definitely going to go with sgc for my first grading experience. I don't have the card value to pay 50-100 for a grade. Glad these companies exist
Great Video thank you for sharing
At moment I have ZERO interest to grade my cards. Between high prices and pop report manipulation by PSA, I'd rather just use my funds to buy quality raw cards and sealed boxes for long term investment. Thanks for the update Chris. I do like the look of the SGC tux slabs, especially on vintage.
I've used psa, hga & sgc in the last year. I have had a good experience with each. One of the fastest turnarounds I had was the psa $50 events which is funny given they have two old orders of mine more than a year old.
Same here with the PSA turnaround time. Super fast but meanwhile I have orders from a year ago still sitting there
I collect vintage only. SGC is my choice. Resale value improving. I believe in the future, the gap will narrow further, as vintage collectors are happy with SGC mid-range cards, particularly star cards. I have a "ran over by a truck" 56T Jackie Robinson, which I submitted and, not surprisingly, got a 1. While I have no intention of selling it, rather keeping it for my PC, the $30 I spent on getting it slabbed, even at a 1, immediately increased its value by a few hundred.
I sent cards to HGA back in September for the 60 day turn around and finally got them in March. They had some issues with a Covid outbreak, staff turn around, and all the other stuff that comes with the territory of being a new company but what bothered me most was their lack of communication throughout the process. When I did reach out to their customer service team they're response was rather rude and made me feel like I was the bad guy for even asking for an update. Otherwise I think the slabs are great! The custom labels are awesome, especially for a PC cards. HGA was recently bought out and will no longer be accepting new submissions until they can get caught up. Hopefully the new guys will come in, streamline the process, and make HGA more competitive in the field.
Covid outbreak whatever!
I used to not take HGA very seriously, but decided to give them a chance. I sent a 10 card order in Jan. and I'm still waiting!
@@danielginsburg9558 over hyped over Priced! That why I love the little guys!
Newest HGA update "We know we haven't been easy to deal with in the past". New Owners saying they sucked, we'll make it better. Let's see what happens
For PC ill give you-i do like the look and feel of the slabs and the labels are fine. However theyve made a mistake with 9.5 being their gem mint. No one likes that, just ask beckett.
SGC's $30 price also includes a cool feature - high-resolution .JPG files for the front and back of your cards that you can download immediately after grading is complete.
made it really easy for me to sell cards after i get them back
Great point
I like HGA there the best looking slab in the market & they continue to change the game on how we collect like offer horizontal slabs & custom labels. I hope there new partners come together & revive this company.
"But the Beckett slab takes up more space" it's the little things like this comment that make Chris the GOAT, always has the details!
Ha!
Csg, with their new grading scale and relationship with ebay will be the clear number 2 soon.
SGC 💯 - Most Consistent graders and grades for the $$$.
I would use any of the top 4, I would only send my top dollar cards to bgs or psa though. I never had hga so I wouldn’t know. It’s good to use the combination of top graders instead of one. Sometimes I would crack my bgs 9.5 and send it to psa to try to get a 10. If you have majority 9.5 grades and no 9s, you would most likely get a 10 from my experience.
I predict SGC and CSG will merge, with SGC focused on vintage and CSG for modern. Its the only way to compete with PSA
PSA is clearly #1, but nothing would be more healthy for the hobby than for them to be challenged from a resale value standpoint. I really don't care for SGC's slabs, but am open to using them for vintage. I would love to see BGS get their house in order and for them and CSG to match PSA's resale values in more modern cards.
Beckett needs you as an employee to make improvements and regain a sustainable competitive advantage or at least keep a strong 2nd position behind PSA.
I used HGA once. I changed credit cards and called to tell them. They never updated it and sent me my cards without charging me.... A rare mistake in my favor.
HGA today just announced a 5-7 week suspension on all submissions while they try to get caught up. :O
PSA recently just screw up my auto authentication submission.......not only they let the card sat at wrong department for almost 5 months(2021 Oct to 2022 Jan) and when I finally able to get in touch with them. Instead do what I paid for it(authenticated and slab the card), they put a PSA authenticated stick on the back of the Card and they refuse to take responsibility for their mistake(zero compensation). Very Disappointing.
I really like sgc, just got an order back of modern.
Thank you for another informative video.
Iʻm SGC, I am going to try a submission of 90s cards to CSG and see how that goes
I'm a fan of CSG and they have been great so far. I don't like the new labels as much and why the no sub-grades now??? I also have an order in at HGA, but they are taking a very long time to even start looking at the cards I sent them.
Awesome video
for the actual plastic slab CSG is the best. its crystal clear but overall SGC is doing great right now, very consistent grading, cheap to grade and fast turn around times. you know what to expect when u send a card to them. sgc is doing great
Now that HGA is shut down its safe to say they are out. Csg grading is absolutely brutal, psa is king and SGC is a close 2nd.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure with this company's track record HGA is only temporarily shutting down. HGA would have been on it's way to bankruptcy court. It's not an investment worth breaking apart. So obviously the new owners have big plans.
I own a card shop and I move way more SGC modern than I do HGA and at a higher price point, if HGA is not Gem Mint grade, there's no bump in price over raw.
Appreciate the insight
There is also ISA in Michigan. Very fast turn around.
"Beginning on April 20th, 2022, we are placing a temporary suspension on ALL submissions. Submissions will reopen when we are sure that we are able to hit our delivery promises, starting with 60-day submissions, and opening 30-day, 10-day, and 2-day services shortly after."--per HGA's website. I sent a card into them, just to see how service was...and this happened.
I’ve only been using FCG lately. 2 week turnaround on every order I’ve sent them and I love their slabs.
Nice one! I’m putting together a SGC vintage order. I am also going to PSA a couple of super clean Clementes that DCI raw graded a 9 at Dulles.
They said they have plans to slab soon, so I look forward to seeing their products.
Just a word of advice for people that claim to not worry about resale value and only collect for personal collection. I sold my collection about 16 years ago to pay lawyers to get custody of my son which I did get. If I only worried about Orioles cards (which I do have an awesome collection of) I wouldn't have been able to sell them really fast. Unfortunately there was a Michael Jordan Rookie, a yellow babe Ruth card and ton of other iconic cards. The thing is you never what life will bring but having iconic cards in your PC collection allows for quick liquidation if the time arises when needed. I also used my collection as collateral on a loan to buy a Chesapeake bay front home when I was 25 years old. Without the cards I would have lost the deal on the house.
I totally agree with your final evaluation except for value with ultra modern going to hga over sgc. Sgc has come a very long way with the value of ultra modern, especially in baseball.
Thats probably fair
I would not recommend HGA for speed right now. I put in a standard order in October and as of today it has not been worked on. I’m having PSA flashbacks!
GMA is the fastest and the cheapest around, I've tried ALL of the other ones and they take forever not to mention the prices . . .
Cracking all my HGA. Been subbing to SGC & flipping. Now will sub to PSA @ $50 a card.
I haven't sent anything in to get graded in several years. I can't believe how much it costs for grading these days. I paid like $12/card for PSA grading the last time I sent something in. They have basically taken grading cards worth less then a few hundred bucks out of the question. How is this a good thing and why did they do this?
GREED. They don't care about the health of the hobby or the true collectors. They only seem to cater towards the big money submitters. Those guys get 10s.
I’ll say for me psa and sgc are the top 2. I love Beckett slabs but they have been terrible with price and turnaround time. I’ve sent two different orders to hga. The current “60 day submission” I sent in November is still on step 1.
SGC grades so hard though and inconsistently, I sent 5 cards in, most I thought were a 10 or 9.5
All i got back were 10s and 9s which was odd and I couldn't tell a difference between the 9s and 10s
Again Chris your research and knowledge are second to none. I liked the CSG cases with subs I was confused as to why they changed. SGC especially with T206 cards are closing the gap massively and like you said look so good with the black borders. Red and green portraits look better in a SGC case, then PSA in my opinion. Great job maybe see you at the national this year!
You are right about csg in resale but it is good for budget investors to get cheap cards in slabs cheaper. I ha e never sent cards in because of un certainty. But I like to get graded cards for 7 or 10 dollars on ebay because of grade.
For me the cost is too high, the grading often costs more than the card is actually worth. Shame as I have a ton I would like to get slabbed
Gr8 video Chris.. Love your thoughts on the different grading company's.. PSA will stay on top for the foreseeable future but I'm digging the new CSG label's.. Stay safe all..👍💕🔥⚾🤗🤙
PSA clearly has forgotten how to grade vintage. If a card from the 50s or 60s doesn’t refract, it’s clearly a PSA 3. 😒
Hga was just sold and another team takes over the leadership. So probably stuff gets better now
I've only sent PC stuff to HGA and I have to say the quality of the slabs are solid. The custom labels look great. I haven't had any ,"Huh??? Grades" like I've had with PSA. Only issue with HGA is the 60 business day order took 153 business days and overall 7 months from received to shipped.
I haven't submitted anything to PSA since my last quarterly specials took 16 months to get back and I got a bunch of mislabeled, ungraded, bizarre grades back on 2020 MLB, NFL, NBA.
SGC has been getting me orders back in 17-25 business days on my 1960s-1990s MLB/NFL cards. Four submissions so far and everything has been fast and fair matching what I graded the cards myself before I send any card off for grading.
Have never used CSG/BGS however I have picked some slabs up for the PC. New CSG labels finally got me to pick one up since the old green labels just kept me away.
In the meantime I'm just staying away from grading until all these companies can control the backlogs. Would really like some fair prices & turnaround times again.
I appreciate the insight
You know, I’m starting to like the HGA colorized slab, at least for lower to moderate priced cards. They tend to show well.
I agree.
When I started collecting graded cards in 2013-14, I liked BGS for the familiarity to the name, and the subgrades. It wasn't much time before I switched over to PSA. I liked the uniform slabs that looked pretty nice with evey card. I also liked the fact they tended to be worth more. I kept rolling with PSA for about 6 or 7 years before I decided to purchase both an HGA slab and an SGC slab. I was impressed with HGA's slab but not so much the label. Their grading scale is a little weird too compared to the BGS subgrade total. The SGC slab I was really impressed with in hand. I love SGC for vintage. Some newer cards look nice in the tuxedo as well. But things like the Jordan RC, not so much. I currently rank them PSA, with SGC in a very close second and maybe even 1st for vintage, BGS in a solid 3rd, and HGA and CSG, are my outliers.
I appreciate the insight
@@collectorinvestordealer I appreciate the videos and your insight. Been watching these since the beginning. You remind me of myself in a lot of ways with the things you say. Had we grown up in the same neighborhood as kids, I'm sure we would have been card traders. 😆
Great ranking. HGA also just shut down for 5-7 weeks and there are questions about their future.
The only card company that had to be taken over in the greatest. And boom of all time.
I should open my own grading company.
Exactly! Don't use slabs and write the grade in black crayon over the face of the player, directly on the card!
Huge resale potential!
I only use SGC at this point and most of the already graded cards I buy are also SGC. I love the look of their slabs and their customer service is great.
The only modern I collect is Topps Heritage. I have been sending in Red Ink Autos and other high end cards to them and they grade them fairly and they look great. These cards are long term holds for me, and I really think over time they will catch up with PSA. PSA is making improvements, but they have. left a sour taste in my mouth from their complete mishandling of things for a couple of years there.
Morning Chris!
Morning!
I have an 83 Topps Sandberg and a 83 Topps gwynn, I'm debating in weather to send them off to psa or Beckett, the Sandberg to my eyes is almost flawless. Any suggestions would help
I think long term CSG will be a real competitor to PSA. The slabs are just nicer and clearer. The plastic on the SGC slabs just suck otherwise I’d be more supportive of them.
I've seen a lot of csg for pokemon and they are really nice and consistent
I've sold HGA Marvel cards for more than PSA is going for in the same grades. As well as sports for close to PSA prices in the same grades. If you're able to be patient you can do that with any company I would think. Not to mention, PSA is losing ground to everyone else it seems with all the scandals and ridiculous backlog that will probably be another couple years before they are caught up
Psa is out because of inconsistent grading especially older slabs. Psa has been caught grading fake and modified trimmed cards. Psa also has proven more and more they are trying to control the pop report based on the cons I have mentioned. BSG has been caught grading fake cards that's it's only con. SCG is to kind to collectors and often give high grades that's it's only con. CSG (CGC) although new has the most strictest graders and is very consistent across the board. Again CSG is new and will definitely be on top just needs more time. CSG although new has ties to CGC which has been grading collectibles for some time now.
Unfortunately grading has become too costly but because of the trend toward trimming cards it has become necessary. I focus primarily on vintage and prefer SCG and PSA. Hopefully in time SCG will close the gap on resale value with PSA.
I’ve never submitted cards for grading, but I’ll certainly buy one already graded. I like the SGC look especially for vintage cards. However, I buy a card I want and can afford regardless of the slab it is in. I have cards in less desired slabs because I wanted the card. I don’t think I have any HGA graded slabs yet. They do stand out.
Thanks. Good job. Do you advise a certain company for me to use? I currently use BGS.
Csg sales are even with sgc and now with the changes ,in the next year or 2 they will be coming for psa
Chris, your research team is doing ok, but your editing department needs a stern talking to: Grading Standards: PSA - "consitency" is ok. No soup for them! 🤣
Haha! My editing department will be reprimanded accordingly.
What’s your thoughts on golden grading
SGC is a solid company with consistent grades…but I like having a uniform collection (PSA) and completely recognize I’m paying too much for that uniformity.
Thats a very common feeling and also plays into PSAs long term advantage
what about RARE EDITION??
Just got a look at my new order from CSG with their ALL NEW black labels and they are far superior than their old green labels. One little remark I have though, being a graphic artist, is the spacing on their 1/2 grades, i.e. 8.5, 9.5 etc, seems like they should be closer together however that could just be me as well as simply being used to seeing SGC's 1/2 grades. But, looking at PSA 1/2 grades, their spacing isn't spectacular either and ever notice how their spacing on their labels isn't exactly centered.
Just some thoughts.
I totally agree that the spacing on PSA labels is suspect at times
What is the 'expected' value of the card based on? -a grade of 10? seems very objective. I have a could cards which if at 10 could be over $1k, if a 8, then much much less. Thanks
For me it's, PSA, SGC, BGS, SGC, CGC
Not a fan a HGA, some people like the different labels that match...I don't. I love 1 basic simple label for every card
Can you do "THE GOOD STUFF "/ AKA Post war baseball?
PRETTY PLEASE ???
Love your work, Ron.
An upcoming high rollers will be recent heritage auctions which are 80% vintage. The good stuff!
@@collectorinvestordealer THANK you, have a happy Easter 🐣.
It's been awhile since....."THE GOOD STUFF ".(haha)
You as well! It has been a while since the good stuff!
Is it $100 at psa for the all around shipping price etc? Last time I checked it was $20 per card
I recently saw my first hga. The label looked cool but the printing and quality was cheap. The grade seemed about 1 to 1.5 too high.
Sgc people I have seen so many psa slabs with 10 that should have been 8 or 9 they just put grad on them sgc is so on I got at lest 300 cards graded cards and no complaints
I've heard of this grading company called AGS that claims to use AI to grade cards with more consistency and less bias than PSA.
I’m not a fan of HGA anymore. Never see a bad grade from these guys. So I don’t buy HGA. CSG is the toughest and most consistent of the graders IMHO. LOVE the look of SGC slabs. Great video Chris!
So please explain to me why I paid $150 for PSA express for 1 card, no autograph just normal grading, and they received my order in February, and it is still in "assembly" stage as of April 21st. There was a 1 business day hold which was quickly resolved back in early March. I'm hearing a lot of people saying quick turnaround times. Called customer service 3 times and told everything is normal for my service time with express tier. The last express CTD was updated April 11th as 3/2/2022. Any insight into what is taking them so long to grade 1 card?
I really dont know why that would be
@@collectorinvestordealer Order Type: PSA Express (direct submission to PSA)
# of cards: 1 (regular card, no autograph)
Order received per PSA: 2/28/2022
Order Entered by PSA: 3/4/2022
Research & ID: ?
Grading: ?
Assembly: 4/7/2022
QA1: morning of 4/21/2022
QA2: morning of 4/22/2022
Grades/Shipped: Not yet graded/shipped.
I'll let you know if they ship me the wrong card, a fake card, or if they never ship the order.
Always a great thing to see 9s lined-up across the board to compare the companies on an apples-to-apples basis! 89 UD Griffeys from your earlier vid: ruclips.net/video/ZiT9eprnGYU/видео.html; 87 Topps McGwires: ruclips.net/video/-YIXpEmH2yE/видео.html