PSA, BGS, Or SGC? What Grading Company Should You Send Your Cards To?
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- Опубликовано: 2 июл 2024
- Sports card grading can be confusing. There are seemingly dozens of grading companies out there that are lined up to take your money and encapsulate your cards. Grading with the right company is critical for your sports card success as the right company with the right grade can make or break the value of your cards. In this video I look at the top grading companies (PSA, BGS, SGC, CSG, and more) and explain the pros and cons of each.
With SGC, I feel like I'm getting the grade the card is supposed to be, where PSA and BGS cards seem like it could just be however the grader is feeling on a specific day and how many cards are in their quota for the week because of back-ups. Much rather have something consistent down the road with this batch of modern, and I think in 5 years many others will feel the same.
Totally agree that SGC seems to be the most consistent. For a "true" collector, I want the best card and not the most popular encapsulation.
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Nuh....I'm going with CSG, the slabs look nice and you can't beat the price
Man, you better go with CSG, you can't go wrong!!!
There was a time I’d agree with this 100% as they are starting to crank out more cards their consistency has waned. I understand why but a lot of this sentiment is them living off of past performance. People get an impression about something and often stick with it longer than they should and I think that is clearly the case with sgc over the lst year or so.
Thank you! I watched a few videos on this topic but this was the most helpful. Everyone talks about price, slab, speed, value, etc., but the extra info you discussed like SGC being tough in centering and Beckett being nice on thick cards was really the type of info I was looking for!
I love the CSG stuff. Coming into the hobby from comics it was pretty easy to do since i already had a membership with them. I really want to give SGC a try though. Watching your videos has been really helpful for getting into the sport cards market.
This breakdown is great and is a perfect resource to those who grade infrequently or are new to grading. Would love to see this updated each year as the grading landscape changes. Would also love if you could include a section for which grading companies are ideal for specific sets. For example, I recently heard bgs is preferred over psa for bowman chrome cards. This would've been good to know before I sent two bowman chrome cards to psa that I was sure were 10s but came back 9s.
Anyway, love the channel, keep it up!
Great analysis of the major grading companies! Thanks Scottie!
Great video. I’ve only subbed to SGC and HGA. Love both. Only will submit to PSA if I have a card I deem worthy to send there.
I hope HGA can get it going. Love the slabs the best.
Thanks for sharing!
GREATEST VIDEO explaining the difference between grading companies. Thank you posting.
Great assessment. Appreciate your objectivity and thoroughness.
I love the idea of grading the graders, this adds to value of each card that is graded by the top graders.
If I want to keep it, SGC. If I want to sell it, PSA.
Also. Pre war baseball guys LOVE SGC. If you are in that niche, SGC carries more weight in many ways to the old timers.
You’re break down is super helpful. Crazy how a popular company can be deemed the “premium” trading company yet have the worst stats with actually grading, protecting, and shipping time. That is unfortunate for us in the hobby..
Because they have guys like this honking for them, despite all the blatant flaws.
Appreciate the video! Thanks for sharing!
Excellent video as usual. Only distinction I would make is the customers reason for grading. For sale or collection. Its a no brainer for PSA if you are selling, but as a collector, the PSA grading scale you mentioned is sketchy to me. As a seller, who cares if card isn't a perfect 10, as collector this bugs me. As somebody who cames into this 4 yrs ago and only started grading last year(200+ with CSG at $7.20 bulk), imho I want the best card regardless of the slab. There are alot of people who are new to this and we might see a shift in thinking eventually.
Awesome content as usual!
I love how you talked about what kind of cards work best with each company. You should do a video with examples of that.
That would be an interesting video. Maybe I will make one. Thanks for the recommendation!
Very helpful, thanks, Scottie!
Outstanding video, well done.
Thanks for the advice this really helped me
Rewatched and your views are still right on!
As someone new to the hobby that is interested in subbing for investment and PC this video was great and I appreciate the info !
great analysis....for selling cards probably need to send to PSA......but the wait is sunstantial...thanks for your thoughts on this
Submitted to PSA earlier this month (11/22) and in just under three weeks they've already notified me the grading process is complete and already shipped the cards back out....also a special for members for $15 bulk submissions until the end of the month, safe to say no more back log!
@@thefishhobbyist5478 lol...keep in mind my comment was 9 months ago...what have you experienced lately?
Awesome video! Thx for the info
Like number 250! Another awesome video Scottie!
HGA - "Beginning on April 20th, 2022, we are placing a 5-7 week suspension on ALL submissions when we are sure we are able to hit our delivery promises, starting with 60-day submissions, and opening 30-day, 10-day, and 2-day services shortly after."
So, I feel like HGA shouldn't have made it to top 5 if, technically, no one can use them until further notice.
BTW- Love this channel Scottie B- I come to you and only a few others before I pull the trigger on anything. Keep doing it
CSG gets a bit slighted in this video. They have a $12 bulk (50 cards+) submission with a 45 day turn. No one comes close to that in the hobby right now. They also have the inside track with Fanatics and eBay. Yes, the resale value isn't on par with PSA, but it's close to SGC and costs half as much for a slab that presents better. It's run by hobby lifers with a ton on experience. I am not saying they should be ranked higher, but the strict grading is in contrast to PSA and my belief is that your card is graded most accurately from them. If they land Fanatics and eBay, they've got the market cornered. Maybe not today, but soon, CSG may be much higher on this list.
@Ozsportscard 2 yeah, I said it wasnt on par with PSA on resell value. But check comps with SGC. I'm kind of saying SGC is the overrated company here. No one was questioning PSA being number one.
100% agreed
I agree. There has been a huge bump in CSG since the new labels were announced. Cards under 9.5s have been moving more for me lately too. Wait till they start grading Ebay🤑
Yes very true they will even top sgc soon
I just sent 100 cards to CSG and I got my fingers crossed
Well done, Scottie B. I would be interested to get your take on TAG, who I have used for about 40 cards and have found the experience to be superior for modern cards.
The transparency is fantastic, the holder is made better than any other, and the M2M - AI aspects create greater consistency.
I would also put SGC ahead of Beckett since you did the video...
Using PSA for mid to high end cards and CSG for low to low-mid. One big pro for CSG that wasn’t mentioned is the low grading fee - $12 for members and $10.20 for dealers. Another is the slab dimensions are the same as PSA. Both PSA and CSG slabs fit in the same PerfectFit sleeves.
I use to do that but now screw it im all in on csg for the price and turnaround times they arent getting the roi today but csg values are increasing substantially, been seeing bigger cards in csg slabs im good with them
Exactly
@@mickey-eq5vw me too
They also are reslabbing the 9.5s to 10s. They have a pop report and registry up and running in their 1st year. The ebay deal is absolutely huge, screw the authentication side, if they start grading ebays cards, boom.
I recently used DGS ( Dynamic Grading Services ) I was very happy with the turnaround time, the slab, the grades, and customer support. I urge you to give them a submission. Great pricing too, a definite value.
I agree with everything you just said. In my opinion, SGC is the best to send because you can get 10’s easily,grading is cheap,and you can flip. Example: Raw=$40 SGC 10 =$125 Cost=$28.89 $125-68.89=$56.11 You can get a lot of profit
Thanks for the very informative, and helpful, video on the grading companies. Why did you skip #3, ISA?
SGC is just overall the best right now with value and resell value imo....I hope they keep trending upward
Whats their turn around you know?
@@ziggyc4474 i sent last month and it was 20 days and they were back in my hand
@@ziggyc4474 I send them cards every 3 weeks and every order has been door to door in under 20 days
Yeah they are always about that fast. It’s nice.
@@ryanra44 same…last order was 18 so even happier lol
I like the FCG Black and Gold Writing ✍️ label.
Had around 20 cards Already Graded by FCG
Beckett is my go to for grading. But until they re-open, they'll be in the back burner for now. I mainly sub with SGC and HGA.
Last time I used PSA, they returned the grade over a year later. I have been investing in sports cards for quite some time and I suggest you use AGS. They specialize in grading modern cards without bias. Furthermore, they have fast return times when you need the grade quickly and AGS offers logical and legitimate prices. AGS is one of the best new grading companies and they should be tried out!
5:29 the flip is the same size
I have cards with both labels it just looks slimmer the way it is designed
I did a submission with HGA for a Bichette RC auto, and I did the 60 day submission. I contacted them after 70 days, and they told me it would be another 60-90 days. I just had them send it back to me and they did, so I'll give them a little credit for that. Gonna just send it to PSA I think.
I have a couple HGA cards that I had graded myself and what I have found through watching videos and my own personal experience is that they tend to grade down so anything you get that is HGA usually will grade higher than the other companies. Take that for what you will but I would consider that more of a good thing.
I use BGS myself. Plus, they're accepting cards! Thanks.
Years ago, I submitted a few cards to Beckett but they have a BCCG on the label vice BGS. They both graded as 10, 1978 Topps 70T Maddux and 1989 Donruss #635 Schilling. Are these slabs an issue with resale, not that I am interested in selling them. I got back into cards last year and now thinking of submitting a few cards for the PC.
I like SGC. And RCG is pretty good at keeping their return time, plus their slabs are nice with the color
Just sent in my first bgs submission, don’t want to wait crazy long
I've now sent Electric Slabs 5 orders
I love these slabs and very happy with their slabs
They don't fluff the grading
Thank you for the video
You left out the best one Csg
Sold prices for BGS 9.5’s can vary drastically depending on the sub grades! BGS gem mints with 2-10’s and 2-9.5’s will sell for a ton more than the ones with 3-9.5’s and 9. I only buy BGS gem mints if all subs are 9.5 or higher. 🍻🇨🇦
Can you do a video on "what is a TRUE RPA" please? I heard a few different explanations, but I really appreciate your brain.
So is a sgc 9.5 worth more or the same as a psa 9? That's the only thing that confuses me with the sgc grades. Like what is mint+
You forgot the part about the PSA up charge thing they do which is ridiculous!
Exactly
Furthermore, PSA has sometimes unfair prices and selection of what cards should be graded first. As a sports card investor, I recommend those who are in investing to use AGS. I have been annoyed with PSA’s extremely long return times. I have since switched to AGS and they are much faster. Their AI robot grades the cards in a much shorter time than human grading. Besides, their robots are unbiased and grade without human emotion and unlike PSA, they have fair and legitimate prices. Try their service once and you’ll never go back to human card grading companies!
On the subject of weird things that happen in a factory or wherever. I pulled a Ken Griffey Jr rookie 89 upper Deck out of the pack at the counter in a card shop. In about 92...ish. and it had a Pen Mark on the card.That card has never been out of the hard protector that I bought as soon as I open the pack. How do you authenticate that?
agree on all your points. I prefer PSA because I have always valued centering least and corners most since I was a kid. Also a 10 is a 10, 9.5 is not only not a 10, but it has cards in the registry graded higher than it, which devalues it. I cant stress that enough, having cards graded higher than it devalues the card, so no matter how perfect BGS claims a 9.5 is, it has cards graded higher than it which devalues it. Its a shame too since no one visually can tell the difference without a magnifying glass.
This is something that maybe only effects me but is really important is the registry. PSA not only has a restful registry (you can use a specific URL to go directly to your card), but it requires no captua or logins. I keep all my cards in a spreadsheet, and a link to the PSA registry. I can click on it and get immediate changes in pop reports, etc. Not only can't I do that with any other grading company, BGS requires a login AND A CAPTUA EVERY TIME I LOOK UP A f'NG CARD! EVERY TIME. I am so over clicking images of boats just to look up a pop report of a card I own or am interested in.
Also I would never purchase an HGA Card. Did you see how they missed the Wayne Gretzky Rooky counterfeit? It has all the basic hall marks of a counterfeit card (no orange dot on opeechee). If you can't get one of the most iconic cards in the hobby correct, I have serious doubts they are even authenticating cards. I know almost less than 0 about finding counterfeits, but I know how to spot the basics of a gretzky rc fake.
Great points thank you
PSA has had my 10 card order for the last 10 months and counting. I tried HGA and like them but they took 6 months for a 60 day order. SGC has been able to deliver on their deadlines each and every time with me. SGC wins
Haha, PSA has had my order since March 2021 and still in "grading". It's impressive what SGC has been able to do to turn cards around and maintain their reputation of being the most accurate graders.
Very impressive. Csg also delivers fast. I’m getting my hga’s all regraded with other companies.
@@pete5691 I am currently prepping my first order with CSG. They have new labels and grading system. Price is great
I go with CSG and you can't beat the price
@Ozsportscard 2 You will be holding your cards for a while then my friend. People have been saying “when psa becomes available again I’ll…” for like 2 years now.
You could add the upcharge as a con for PSA vs. SGC
What feedback review can you give on ECG grading, compared to these companies?
I agree with everything you said, but for better or worse It's all about majority opinion. I trade far more than I sell but grade for grade PSA gets me more value..... but I do hear "yeah, but it's an SGC 10" less these days than I used to.
The problem i have with PSA is the up charge and BGS doesn’t. Thats why I like BGS and the subgrades are awesome.
I have an '88 Jordan that is off centre, not too bad....but could be a 60/40. Where would you suggest it get graded?
Which company is best/worst for edges, specifically on black borders or shiny foil?
I have a trout rookie that I’ve been looking to get graded. The corners are not too hot. Which company do u guys think I could get the best grade with?
What do you guys think about AGS? They apparently use AI which is more consistent and transparent than normal grading.
I have a 2020 Panini National Treasures #159 Holo Gold Jordan Love JSY AU 2023 Black Label 1/1 that I am considering grading. It looks incredible and stands a good chance at getting a PSA 10 or a BGS 9.5 to 10. I am considering putting it up for auction at Goldin. Should I keep it as a Panini Encased raw card, grade it through PSA or grade it through BGS?
At least now I see sgc 10 creeping up to psa 10 sometimes within 25-30%, but sgc 9.5 sells for more than psa 9. Good sign for Sgc
I want to start getting my cards graded, but I’m on a budget right now. What would you suggest? Thanks
I only collect sgc ,cgs, bgs and psa. Anything other than that don’t get into my collection, or I’m cracking and regrading if I like the card.
I love SGC but it's so hard to sell SGC cards. Collectors are very picky and they'd rather get PSA.
Hey Scott great video! Unfortunately Bgs is 3 and SGC is 2
Agreed, but we all know Scottie is a BGS nut! Hard to concede that #2 spot even though SGC deserves it.
Watch csg. I’m a big sgc fan but I do think csg is positioning themselves well
In the long run, CSG will be the number one
@@germanrottweiler2811 You and I are in the minority but I sorta think so too
Never. BGS still easily commands better prices/value over SGC
CSG has passed Beckett a while back. They passed them on the shoulder about 200 miles ago
I just got my first CSG batch back and I really like the new label and the turn around time and price 👌also the grades I got back are exactly what I’d thought they be so…
That is good to know. Thank you for sharing! Hopefully you got some big cards in the submission 🤞
Outstanding
For someone looking just to send in 15 cards that are apart of my PC would you go with SGC or BGS ?
I also like bgs most cause they high on centering. Do you go to art museum and see the paintings hanging crooked?
100% on point with your comment..
If I have a set of old yugioh cards I’m wanting to sell. What’s the best way to evaluate my collection and figure out if some are worth getting graded? Used TCGplayer to determine what the value is.
Sgc is the best right now overall but will use csg for bulk. Love csg slab. Sgc is overall really consistent when it comes to grading and turn around times and it’s cheap to use sgc
I agree with both points! I need to send some cards to CSG at some point here to really get a feel for them. I just think SGc is the easiest to use at times since the cards come back so fast and the grades are consistent. Thanks for watching and the thoughts!
@@scottiebcards2354 SGC ,how long is their turnaround on average?
@@scottiebcards2354 CSG’s standard service is $30 retail and only $22.50 for dealers. Turnarounds have been running 20 days at this service level. Bulk is $10.20 60 days and Economy is $17 40 days.
Ive been buying 9.5 csg’s to get reholdered to a 10.
@@pete5691 I’ve been buying 1-3 CSG 9.5’s every day.
Where are you seeing the price chart you showed at the end? Is that on eBay?
i'm new to grading and i already heard alot of bad things unfortunately .... right now i like bgs the most, because of the iconic look and the cards are stored with sleeves and this seems like the safest option for storing them ...also i don't understand why other grading services, besides beckett and psa, use so cheap looking slaps and fonts
Got some CSG cards for cheap and man the clearer/more transparent plastic is night and day vs others. I wish others would copy this
BRILLIANT, ThX
Where do you get that chart you pulled up at the very end
What app are using at the end to track pricing and trends?
I'll be honest I purchased a SGC 10 ramirez and it had a slight bit of color on one of the corners. So I'm a bit worried about buying a card thats been graded by SGC. That being said Beckett used to be the top, but I've been out of collecting for a while. I was surprised to see PSA has taken over. Not sure why but that seems to be the norm today
Its because of how their slabs look, honestly its smaller and thinner and with the sticket being red and white and the case clear it makes it the whole thing look cleaner.
Guys I need some help do you grade a one of one? I pulled a decent Bowman u football 1st bowman superfractor auto 1/1 Cj Stroud should I grade or just keep in a one touch never graded anything before .
Cards that are flawless to me go to BGS... slightly O/C or bad autos go PSA...raw stuff I want to cheap flip go to SGC
Thank you
I would grade with csg but their list for the cards they dont grade is longer than the cards they do grade and they dont grade autographs u get in the mail or in person. They only grade auto that came from the factory that way.
How do you prep thicker relic cards for grading?
The fact SGC grades any off centering strict as it should vs PSA who gives out 10's for off center cards is a STRENGTH of SGC, not a weakness. PSA give out far too many unworthy 10's
Agreed. I personally use AGS though, they use AI grading which is also pretty strict on centering compared to PSA.
PSA grades have been inaccurate and is based on what the graders feel. As a sports card investor, I recommend those who are in investing to use AGS. AGS uses robots to grade the cards very quickly. Moreover, their robots are unbiased and grade without human emotion and they have logical and rational prices. Try their service once and you’ll never go back to human card grading companies!
Lol. This is hysterical. Some really shitty advice imho
A few years ago I found a curious quirk in SGC cards. I suggest you try it. I accidentally left a couple of SGC cards sitting out on my car front seat and apparently it got exposed to direct sunlight for at least a couple of hours. The sunlight actually wound up turning the SGC flip / label completely black. Meaning that the label material had some sort of reaction to direct sunlight that caused it to turn black. Not sure if this will still happen nor if anybody has brought it to SGC's and or if it's been fixed or not. This didn't happen to only one card it happened to four cards at least that were sitting in the sunlight. So you got to be careful if you're working out cards at your desk or on your kitchen table don't accidentally leave them in the sunlight for any period of time.
Has this happened to anybody else?😮
SGC 💯. Consistent Graders. PSA has under-Trained graders handling cards & they Pop. Control.
I gotta say KSA and MNT in Canada offered better grading than PSA, quick turnaround and reasonable prices. Not sure about timelines to the states.
BGS is best in every way. Slabs look so much classier than PSA. Most importantly BGS protects the cards perfectly.
@@thefishhobbyist5478 in PSA slabs the cards move around. PSA is cheesy and for dumb kids.
I collect SGC, BGS and PSA...I much prefer SGC because I think they grade the most accurately and I like their slabs/flips the best. I do like BGS because of the subgrades but most importantly I like the slab and protection it affords (I've never seen a BGS card move in the case). Overall, I like PSA the least because the grading scale is too simplistic, their slabs are flimsy and cards rattle around way too much, and the flips are kinda ugly.
All that being said, I probably have the most PSA cards in my collection for three reasons:
1) By far the most cards graded and therefore available
2) The market has made it clear they are the most popular for resale, which does matter even for a collector
3) Set registry
Right now I'm buying SGC and BGS because they are cheap versions of the same cards, but if I had to pick one for my collection I would go with SGC. Especially if they can put together a set registry!
The SGC slab is so clean. Love the way the black borders make the cards pop in the slab.
PSA takes way too long and too many people have been disappointed by their service. Investing in sports cards myself, I think AGS is the new wave of card grading. I have been annoyed with PSA’s extremely long return times. I have since switched to AGS and they are much faster. Their AI robot grades the cards in a much shorter time than human grading. Moreover, AGS has AI that grades the cards without bias and AGS offers rational and reasonable prices. I really suggest you try them out as they are the new wave of the future!
CSG has a huge veriety of cards, which is a great marketing idea.
Wonder how much things will change with PSA acquiring SGC
What is the criteria of a great grader?
From an investing standpoint, do you think grading base, even RCs, are worth it? Or does it just depend on who? With the increase in people grading cards, it seems diluted.
10s will always have value if the player is in demand, grade them over time if price is an issue
I wanted to grade Star basketball cards who’s the best.
I HAVE A TOPPS 52 MICKEY MANTLE CARD IN GOOD CONDITION WHAT GRADING CARD COMPANY SHOULD I SEND IT TO FOR THE BEST PRICE
A question since I'm fairly new to this. On the video he says SGC is fantastic for vintage cards, but have low value on modern cards compared to PSA. How new or old is considered modern or vintage? Are cards from around the mid-80's to mid-90's considered vintage?
Yes, 1980's and 90's cards are considered vintage.
I prefer Bgs #1. I like how the card is in the sleeve and fully secure in the slab. I luv the subgrades and hope to get a Black Label one day.
Time for e new ranking in 2023!!! SGC above BGS now??? TAG in the top 5? We NEED answers!
So it really does come down to PSA is #1 because a flawed card will score a 10 easier with them. Kinda defeats the whole purpose of graded doesn’t it?
Forgot to mention CSG has a registry now. It’s amazing