Gale GOD Ending (Patch #5) | Baldur's Gate 3
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Gale ascends Tav:
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"I give them nothing, I inspire..."
Another divine slacker
it depends on activity...a god that sits up high and and only interacts through dreams and divine massagers or a god that walks among mortals while doing little but simply being. what inspires mortals more?
He just wants to brag without telling about Ao holding a big stick with "NO FUN ALLOWED" written on it.
@@TrenchCoatDingo The latter sounds like Buddha. Guatama Buddha. Which, that mother fugger was INSPIRING.
You peoples are so funny. When gods acts, you complain, when they don't, you complain.
Maybe it's a good thing they stay aloof, don't you think ? That way, it minimise the damages they could cause and leave mortals the freedom to do their own things by themselves and find their own worth.
@@efaristi9737 I don't think that anyone complains about divine blessings and magic of clerics
........... so basically, Gale became a motivational speaker
He's a Coach!😂
Oh no, it's Gale Vee...
Now he only needs his own music theme and a buggati!
He lives in a celestial van down by the river!
He became an online influencer.
Dang, I felt the whole point of him wanting to get godhood was because he thought all gods suck and do nothing for humans, and he just wanted to do better. It looks like he’s become what he hated. “I offer them nothing”.
Wait. You thought Larian knew how to write a good story? Their previous titles + the disaster that was the last act of this dumpster fire should have told you this.
@@corporateturtle6005 This is a good story. Power corrupts, no matter the reason for obtaining it. That was the entire point of Gale's arc in the whole game.
@@corporateturtle6005 I am not complaining, I think it is a fitting end.
@@lozpopo I agree with what you said. The whole Gale companion quest yelled at you that if you let him use the crown of Karsus he'd be corrupted by power just like Karsus was, just like if you ascend Astarion he'll become like Cazador. Some people really will go through with these "evil" paths and then act surprised and betrayed that the character fundamentally changed because of their choices lol
@@lozpopo Power does not corrupt. It only brings out what is already there, but hidden.
Gale: becomes a god*
My Kratos inspired Tav: “I’m sorry, little one”
Kratos inspired DUrge: "Divine hand is even tastier"
Instead of getting healing word and cure wounds, his clerics **believe in themselves.**
Believe in the gale that believes in you!
Healing mockery
THE SPELL IS CALLED AMBITIOUS INSPIRATION
I mean, Shadowheart puts it very well in the beginning of the game that she doesn’t trust wizards, because they only care about power. The whole point of Gale’s questline is him realizing that he doesn’t need all of this power to be a capable wizard. He’s a very insecure person deep down, and he thinks the only way to fix his insecurity is by becoming more powerful instead of accepting himself the way he is.
I mean, it's not the only way to fix his insecurity, but it certainly is *a* way, right?
Ascended Astarion to Tav: So, Gale became the God of Ambition. Then chose to do abslutely nothing with it. I'm not surprised really.
Tav: You know, if you ever struggle with any of your ambitions-
Ascended Astarion *A look of disgust on his face* : I'm not praying to Gale...I've spent enough time listening to him prattle on. I'd rather not have to hear him do it with that Godsdamned awful echo.
Is this real dialogue?
@@wizzydq1 It'd better be.
@@wizzydq1 I Wish it was...it was just something I thought of while hearing the echo of Gale's voice. 🤣
@@nova_supreme8390 Trust me ...I wish was...It just sounded so fitting in my head.
This made me laugh hysterically.
"i am the god of ambition, not the god of consequences." So you're basically just another crappy god. got it, thanks.
"Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power."
A perfect example of how power doesn't corrupt, it reveals.
All his talk about how the gods are arseholes who use mortals for their own ends wasn't altruism or hate at how unfair the world is for humanity. It was *jealousy*
Not neccesarily at the power, but at the freedom to do whatever you wanted and to look down on humanity knowing for a *fact* that you and your own ambitions are above them
I mean... Mystra did use and discard a lot of mortals before.
Perfectly understandable stance considering he was groomed from a young age to be little more than a sexual conquest for a goddess.
i also believe that the orb was slowly corrupting him and leading him to that path of jealousy instead of altruism, which is why our tav intervention is important to him staying human
tbf to him, gods tend to change to suit their domains, and ambition is kind of. Well. for context he stole it from BANE. so i wouldnt say gale, as a human, would be of the same ideas here
I wouldn't say it 'reveals'- Gale made it pretty clear that he was ambitious even as a regular human. Godhood more likely just enhances a specific aspect of someone's personality or changes their mind to only focus on their own domain (I don't believe gods' minds are as complex or inclined to emotions the same way mortals are). The fact that Gale chose to only focus on 'Ambition' and is no longer the grounded, complex mortal he once was, due to immortality, he has an elevated position and higher standard for himself. Naturally, this makes him more egotistical and aloof when thinking about his origins, accomplishments, and new abilities compared to how his mortal companions knew him to once be. Thus, he essentially gets a little too lost in the sauce, forgetting all the promises he made to 'be better' than the other gods and instead becomes just like them.
Gale’s comment about Savras and his little derisive chuckle is such GREAT writing and characterisation. Gale is very likely going to end up usurped by one of his followers enacting out the tenets of his own creed. If he’s not careful (which he won’t be) he’s going to be challenged and defeated and then stuffed into a sceptre to be wielded as a weapon by some random high-level adventurer. I think this was foreshadowed by the warning letter you can find in the vault next to The Annals of Karsus. As awful as Savras’ fate was, he’s one of the older gods, and has lasted longer than many of his peers.
To be fair it's implied he let himself be sealed. The goddess of magic had to do the heavy lifting anyway he's just fortune teller. And being lost within a magical scepter is preferable to the attempted deicide. 😅
Gale became a motivation coach lmao he really is one the dark side now 😂😅
IKR goddamn he's insufferable I want my mortal Gale of Waterdeep back 😭
God of Multilevel Marketing and his temples shall be - Pyramids.
I mean, this doesnt sound as bad as Id imagine
He isn't evil nor good, he literally just became a god of ambition, and rather wants to be an idol for those to pursue their ambitions and achieve their goals/dreams.
Doesnt matter to him if theyre good or bad, he just wants to let people know that its possible to achieve the impossible.
In a way, godhood has also made him wiser, but less human....
some domains really work really well as good or evil others not so much, limiting himself to only "good ambition" not only pigeon holes him but also any potential followers forcing them to either find another god or change themself to suit Gale which isn't very likely given the nature of ambitious people
Being neutral inheritly just helps evil
The Divine beings of Zakhara also have domains like Knowledge, Bravery, Wisdom, Beauty, Prosperity/Craftsmanship, all domains that represent a virtue to strive for. Their Gods don't concern themselves with evil, neutral or good, because it is their belief that these aspects don't prohibit one from chasing those virtues.
Ambition fits in well with this
he is a neutral god
@@mecchido And he is a pretty neutral character during the game too. So it suits him.
The God of Wasting Valuable Loot 💀
This one uncle, who just came back from his 14 days trip to America and already forgotten how to speak your peasant (mother) language.
If you could chose him as a deity you worship on a new playthrough that'd be funny
I don’t know if I like this. Yes, he stuck it to Mystra, we all wanted that, but at what cost? He’s more arrogant than ever and clearly views mortals as lesser. So, we know the power has already gone to his head. While ambition is not a bad thing to “inspire”, the very real possibility that Gale, as a god, likely already has his sights on attaining more power and prestige amongst the pantheon is beyond worrying. It’s even worse if you romanced him, months with no word? That’s sketchy as hell. I fear history is gonna repeat itself, with Gale filling the role of Mystra and “Tav” filling Gale’s former position.
I get what you mean, but this fully makes sense. Gale is a different being now, much like if Asterion ascends. Minds are the same but humanity is gone and primal aspects of their personality get enhanced.
The fact that Gale did come back to share this with "Tav" is a good sign, that he at least wants to be better than Mystra, but it's not a guarantee. Hopefully "Tav" can keep him on a good path and not lose too much if they ascend to godhood as well.
Edit: Also, if you noticed, when "Tav" asked about "evil ambitions" none of those options were "good" this shows that "Tav" isn't too hapy with Gale's decisions. True to BG3 fasion it's up to "Tav" to help shape Gale from here.
Not disagreeing that he's more arrogant than before in this route, but he explained he hasn't contacted Tav because time in Elysium works differently than the material plane. He also offers you to become ascend and become a god with him and there's a scene of the you and him hugging somewhere heavenly (I assume in his domain in Elysium) if you take that offer.
@@gagapandega1668 I see. Well that proves he’s a better lover than Mystra at least.
I would think that a God solely focused on ambition would never be satisfied with whatever they currently have, which means he can NEVER get along with the other gods (no matter how strong he is here, there's always AT LEAST one God above him... wouldn't a God of Ambition keep pushing upwards until they're trying to 1v1 Ao?)
@@JB-xl2jcNo, he literally laid out the framework of his godhood. Tiamat doesn't need to be a God of Ambition to have ambitions. The Dead Three never needed ambition as part of their domain.
Yeah, this ending is a bit of a mixed bag for me. I absolutely don’t think this is a “bad ending” for Gale. But I also can’t see this being a completely good ending either. So it’s a “neutral” ending, which is fitting.
I also don’t think this is the same as Astarions ascension. I can see the parallels, but they ultimately don’t match up. Gale doesn’t sacrifice thousands of victims lives to become a greater being. That is an inherently evil act. Gale just does powerful magic thanks to his specific situation. At worst, what he does is reckless, selfish, and irresponsible considering the potential consequences (though we also don’t know any precautions he may have used). But he can succeed.
Ambition isn’t an evil thing, nor is it a good thing. The chosen of the dead three needed to be ambitious to try to pull off their plan. You and your companions needed to be ambitious to stop them.
I think you're right in that it is neutral, though I'd argue bad for Gale in terms of his growth and understanding. Gale basically became an Icarus that didn't fall from the sky. He was lucky the netherese orb didn't have widespread effect and that the ascension went to plan. In becoming a god he traded his mortality to become an ideal regardless of consequence. So not a true bad ending but one where Gale will live at the threat of his own ambition
"If that's the criteria for choosing a domain, you should be the God of Wasting Valuable Loot." Hoooooooooly shit! Damn! BURN! LOL!
God of Coaching...
I'd like to see Withers opinion on that regard
Damn. Now I want to be a conquest paladin of Gale in Baldur’s Gate 4.
He really hit us with that "be not afraid" 💀
So, throughout the game, he says he wants to be able to make humanity not need gods anymore, because he sees that gods are just using us and toying with us while they could share their powers. Then, he becomes a god that does nothing for his devotees. Sounds about right. Power got to him like it gets to Astarion. I never thought I would say this but Astarion ascended ending is less heartbreaking than this. If you dont romance him, I think its a good end for him, since you have no right to judge what he does. And what does another god matter to you anyway, at least this one is a friend. But if you romance him, I would be pissed about how degrading he seems towards "mortals". Though, if you romance him, then by the end of act 3 he doesnt even want to do anything with the crown after the astral sea/ ship scene where you can tell him that you love him just as he is and he doesnt need to always try to be something bigger to impress.
He says there are details beyond mortal comprehension. Who knows what kind of divine contracts there are in how you have to associate with mortals. We didnt see Lathander personally come down and beat Githyanki ass for taking his massive temple.
@@loserinasuit7880 there is one detail pretty much in line of mortal comprehension.
AO forbids direct intervention unless it is actually nessesary. Also, i doubt that Lathander is that willing to intervene large-scale after certain Dawn Cataclysm.
Am i the only one that doesnt see any problems with the way he acts after he becomes a god? everyone's talking about him changing for the worse but i really dont see it
@@alexhb7949 Gale is always been neutral, he doesnt have any evil ending
Ive always thought Ascended Astarion was best if you weren't romanced. I agree with this
Gale wants us to buy his online courses...
I had Ascended Astarion, and I still feel like I fucked up more with Gale when I saw what he became.
Arrogant, not evil but not good either. Up his own ass with alot of Gale's charm and empathy replaced by the draw of power that godhood gives. I felt sombre. The entire time I was too supportive of his cause, and too blind to see what would be lost if he achieved what he desired.
Their ascensions are pretty similar. They both thought they were not good enough, which led them to become the thing they hated.
I'm happy for gale honestly. I didn't do this route in my playthrough because I saw his origin ending where he gets killed my mystra if he takes the crown, so I assumed doing the same in a Tav playthrough would result in the same thing. Him actually becoming a god though is sick
Maybe this happen later after this ending if he choose this way.
Even if Gale could grant people their ambitions, he’s only allowed to do so much in the interplay of mortals, if he oversteps his bounds even as a god Lord Ao (Overgod of Dnd) would surely smite him, or remove his godhood entirely.
so while it might seem dickish helping mortals help themselves is all he can really do; that’s mostly what other gods do for people so in Gale’s case he’s a better god in that Endeavour.
Gale even says so himself that Lord Ao wishes for the cosmic dust to settle for a millennia before he can intervene on the level of older gods with greater seniority and even then most greater gods are limited in how they can interact with the material plane.
Portfolios are also Key, while Gale is a god and powerful in his own right, his power comes from the concept of Ambition: The will to increase one’s power and/or further one’s goals.
Again Gale even states that ambition doesn’t just stem from heights but the depths that proceeded them.
By being Ambitious you’re actively drawing on Gale’s domain, you may pray to the god of ambition to reach the peak of a mountain, Gale Literally can’t and won’t transport you to the peak of that mountain because that isn’t ambition; to truly climb the mountain, follow your journey through hardships and time to reach the destination is to understand the true significance of being on the peak of the mountain.
Ambition isn’t the destination itself but the long and arduous Journey towards that inevitable destination.
If everyone prayed to the God Of ambition and gale fulfilled the wish of every worshippers ambition, he’d be gaining more followers sure but he’s taken the significance out of his Domain, if everyone can just wish for their greatest desires than there would be no Ambition as you could just pray to the God Of ambition for it.
Despite being able to gain more followers and in effect more power by granting wishes, he’d be undermining his portfolio and it’s significance in the material plane; kind of Counterproductive if you ask me.
If and Whenever Ao deems the cosmic dust settled on the matter of Gale’s ascension only then would he be permitted to extend greater blessings and powers on his followers; even if that time ever Comes Ambition is a unique portfolio and Gale would have to maintain a delicate balance of blessing his followers in fulfilling their Ambitions while keeping a neutral/inpartial role in allowing his followers to pursue their ambitions themselves.
Go to far in the direction of granting mortals their ambitions and ambition ceases to matter, too far in the direction of letting mortals toil for their ambitions without anything in return and you have individuals who cease to worship Ambition and its Lord.
It seems like Gale isn’t doing enough (Like most other Gods) but at this point he’s a divine Infant encouraged to not interfere even further by his God GrandFather Ao until he says otherwise.
It Also makes Rapheal’s ending more interesting considering how complex and potentially egotistical the portfolio of Ambition is, Gale might be a new born God but with something as powerful and volatile as ambition, I could see how Gale could cause Celestia to Quake; only thing is he has to be careful or he might make Ao consider to write Gale’s Folly into the Epitaphs Of Fate.
sounds like he's become the god of hubris and ego
Given that we have goddes of tourture and pain, god of murder, god of tyranny and one of the greater goddesses that wants to strip people of all hope, light and love - that is nowhere near as bad.
Not bad for us but bad for him for sure. He's become corrupted by his own ego. He will just be as selfish as the other gods and not share his power, he just "inspires". In the same way as ascended astarion he crumbled and became the worst version of himself
This feels wrong. Ambition was Gale’s fall. Mystra sacrificed part of the Weave to make sure the Karsite Weave didn’t devour him.
Tav, the party, the mindflayer tadpole, and a repentant Gale worked together to get him to where he is. It wasn’t ambition that saved him.
Mystra and Elminster believed in Gale. He seemed capable of ascension even without Karsus’ Netherese magic. Mystra said he only needed to be more patient, he already had it in him….He could’ve had dominion over more than ambition. It’s like he settled for something…lesser?
Mystra groomed Gale. She never saw him as his equal, nor did she ever plan to ascend him to godhood. She was simply using him.
No, Gale was never going to have any sort of dominion unless he finally became a god. Mystra said all that as a way to diminish her exploitation and basically blame him for wanting equal power in their power-imbalanced relationship. In reality, she was never going to relinquish her control over his access to magic & how much he could use. Mystra preys on wizards like him and Elminster all the time who are skilled at using the Weave and makes them her 'Chosen'- but since she limits mortals' access to magic, the most he and Elminster could ever be is an archmage. And she'd never allow a mortal to reach anywhere near godhood or else it would threaten her domain the same way Karsus threatened it.
You can read on Elminister letter that he failed Gale. And will try to no do it again. Even his cat misshim. Saying that the only thing left that remains is that, Ambition.
I’m glad that my suspicions of Gale being an absolute, pretentious douche bag are confirmed. Him and the vamp stay in the camp.
So he fixed the spell Karsus's avatar and didn't cause another spell plague, im impressed and scared.
Well the main Issue with that Spell was how it was originally cast. It targeted the God of Magic so it Killed her to make Karsus the new God of Magic. But since he killed the God of magic, magic stopped working and so did the spell he just cast...
Worse ending than him just apologizing and giving back the crown honestly. He becomes a bit of an egomaniacal asshole like this.
gods are all ego-maniacal assholes even in real world religions. Not a good ending, but well written nonetheless.
Yeah human ego Gale was annoying, god Gale has such a big ego he is a twat 🙄
I agree, but I like that it's probably just as hot a debate from now on as Spwanstarion vs Lordstarion is. I'll have to try claiming Godhood on my Gale-Origin and see if that changes the party dialogue drastically - I am a little scared though, because my party after returning the crown was so very sweet and happy and it feels like tainting the bliss.
Not sure of egomaniacal? This does not seem like the Ascended Astarion, he just has different views and stuff. I do agree him giving nothing is a bit mid, but he does not seem evil or good for that matter. Simply neutral.
@@howsad2397He sounds like a twisted version of his unascended reality, in both he wishes to inspire others to become more, but the God of Ambition might be the God of Dissatisfaction. He seems to have lost all the joy in the small things he had before.
i don't understand people complaining that he's an asshole now though like what did you expect? did you want ascended astarion to be niceys too? cmon
I hope there's somehow an interaction with God Gale and Lorroakan and it sounds like a petty child's fight.
Lorroakan: "Haha, I'm immortal and will go on to do grat things!"
Gale: "Oh yeah? Well I became a god, 'god' beats 'immortal' Lorroaloser!"
Lorroaloser: *"NUH UH!"*
Considering Lorroakan's ambitions, Gale could even tell him "I am YOUR god, bitch!"
And now I have even less of a problem chopping his hand off.
1:25 But how is his magic different than the weave ?
2:36 Then i hope he'll remember that he did not accomplish his ambition on his own and was largely helped by unforsees circonstances and his party.
I think Gale lost a part of his humanity in achieving godhood. Didn't Mystra explained once to a guy that gods perspectives on the world and life is actually limited by the domaines they rule over ?
Motherfucker dropping some Cyric vibes, in my opinion. I’m also not sure how I feel about people actually being able to utilize the Crown of Karsus to attain divinity, feels like it cheapens Karsus’ folly. Though I suppose he didn’t literally try to steal the weave like Karsus did so it’s not too much of a lore break.
I hate this entire storyline. It completely cheapens the whole Karsus deal. Gale is not Karsus he's nowhere near what Karsus was.
Karsus' avatar was a difficult spell to cast with some ridiculous material components and it only gave Karsus the access to a god's power it didn't turn him into one, but now Gale a lvl 12 wizard who wasn't anywhere near a real Netherese Wizard even in his chosen of mystra days can suddenly become a gad with some hocus pocus from a silly MacGuffin Larian created?
@@ToveriJuri Gale was hampered by the netherese orb. Him being as powerful and knowledgeable as he was as an archmage was the only reason he survived the orb at all. Gale's whole story is that he had achieved all that a wizard could do under Mystra and still sought more. And remember: Gale achieved divinity by controlling the netherese weave via the crown. The components and power already existed because of Karsus's fall.
@@damienmcgirl3577
Gale was still nowhere near the level of the original Netherese Wizards.
Karsite Weave and the crown macguffin are weird ass retcons that Larian came up on their own, to setup the nonsense they did with gale and some of the game's plotline.
@@ToveriJuri Is it really that bad? Before bg3 no one knew what the material components were for. Now we know why the material components were so specific and hard to obtain. Karsus was trying to forge the most powerful artifact in existence. That would explain why gale doesn't need to be at the level of karsus. Karsus succeeded and made an artifact stronger than almost any other.
@@damienmcgirl3577
The material components were for the spell itself, Karsus's Avatar.
Material components for spells is an actual mechanic in DnD, but most video game adaptations choose to ignore it entirely because it's just extra busy work and not particularly fun mechanic, but it is a thing.
The crown in BG3 cheapens the achievement of Karsus and it sidelines the pretty cool lore of just how ridiculously powerful spellcasting used to be before Mystra put significant limitations to it after Karus's folly.
It's not that massive of a deal in the end. Larian has some creative freedom to fit things for their story. I'm just a bit bummed out by it because I enjoyed the original Netherese lore.
So it still ends just with "a promise". I guess its to complicated and would take more interaction with seeing you ascending into something too.
But this isn't honestly too bad. The only question is if he stays like this or will change over time.
you actually do get to see your character ascend if you choose that path! it just happens after the party
@@byuones It's so nice to see that he actually keeps his promise
Gale: Fear not. I may be a god, but shall not forget the hand that feeds.
I knew he would become a god but didn’t think he’d be the god of ambition! Thats like AMAZING and very surprising to me. I really hope he doesn’t get corrupted by power. I doubt it as Gale is usually good though that was mortal Gale and this is god Gale
Well in his origin ending if you chose to become a god and moy surrender crown, you chose to be god of ambition
I'd worry about a god of ambition. Feels like they would always aspire to be more powerful by definition, which would align with some less savory gods (Cyric)
@@heyfamiHe's fine
@@loserinasuit7880He? Yeah Gale will be fine. But his divotees... I am not so sure of.
@lisdraconis2212 Doesn't matter if they are, he said it himself there is no good or evil in his domain. That's not his realm of control.
Indeed. Ambition isn't necessarily a bad quality. Ambitious men like renowned inventors persisted with their work regardless of many setbacks with their Innovations. History's most notable people that have done good and evil things, required ambition to dare to achieve their goals.
It's just that some people have the bad habit of confusing ambition with greed.
Ambition is a double-edged sword. Not enough of it and you end up wasting your life away. Too much of it and you end up hurting yourself and/or others in pursuit of your goals. It's a delicate balance.
Of course, the same can be said for plenty of other things. Except dice. You can never have too many dice.
Ambition to seize vs Envy of those who are 'above you' on the ladder. @@StrigoiVampire
It's a fair ending for Gale after having his love so rejected by Mystra. Gale is my favorite character.
He should have claimed the domain of arrogance
Honestly? I'm happy for him.
On the one hand, becoming even a lesser God is such a colossal jump in power that its hard to quantify (not the least of which is that he's now functionally immortal, even if he's killed by another higher level God his essence will go to the Astral Plane), plus about a thousand other perks.
On the other hand, it seems like a Lesser God focusing on ambition would NEVER be able to meaningfully get along with the rest of the gods. You'd think they'd constantly be ambitiously pushing to achieve that next tier of divinity. All the way up until they're knocking on Ao's door.
This is Gale's bad path, the one where he seeks out his power fantasy. This is the same "bad" path for his character as Astarion Ascending, or Shadowheart becoming a Dark Justicar, or Karlach using the Soul Coins, or Wyll keeping his pact with Mizora. He wanted to uplift mortals to a place where they didn't need to rely on Gods, because he realized first hand that the Gods offer little to nothing when they have SO much power to share and help everyone. If you let Gale go mad with power and ascend to godhood, he becomes the very thing his entire character arc was opposing: an all-powerful God who sits idly by and does nothing; he became everything he rightfully opposed, letting the allure of power get to him. Keep in mind too, the player influences this. These are your companions in-game, your friends and allies. Be a good friend and don't lead them down the wrong path (if you're playing the "generally a good person canon playthrough"). Regardless of how someone is playing the game, this is obviously the oppositional path for Gale: as said before, for his character, this is the antithetical path, the WORST one. Well, worst one besides like death of course lol. Eh, you get the point.
Gale doesn't do nothing for his followers, nor is it really in the best interest for him to do so. Being empowered to achieve you own goals by following Gale in his domain is not nothing. He is innately neutral, and doesn't content to judging wrong from right. He also doesn't claim to give more than he can. He isn't as powerful as other deities, and really doesn't even have the power to influence large scale events. Although he is certainly up his own ass a bit here it's just as reasonable to think he could level out and become wiser as it is to think that he could become more corrupt. The neutrality of his domain, the potential for his future to go multiple ways in this ending, and the humility up to this point of not overstepping his bounds I think decidedly makes this a neutral ending. He solved the problem he found with other deities by not overpromising, instead being a force that allowed people to solve their own problems. His followers would know they weren't guaranteed to win, but now they have the power to try. In that way he achieved his goals. Either way he could become horribly corrupt or be tempered by the responsibility of his position and this is not innately a bad ending. Though I do think getting disconnected with him on a personal level makes it feel that way to some.
I have an inkling that he and ascended Astarion will get along swimmingly - and that there will be fanfiction.
Nooo, more like ascended Astarion would have an ambition to kill Gale for his power.
@@klefleee If you actually listened to his Ascended dialogue and how views power, you would know that he directly says that any fool can rule and sit on a throne - as Ascendant he is much more interested in gaining allies and influencing them to pressure them when needed. "Spin the web" to be "the puppet master" so he could have important allies.
But we definitely need to demonize AAstation even more, because the world is so much simpler when you divide everyone by "good" and "evil".
"Gale, I am not praying to you. I just REALLY like your shoes."
An idea for an interesting ending if you romance Gale and he becomes a god, because in the epilogue for that he still genuinely loves you, is that you become his chosen, making an interesting parallel to how he was Mystra's chosen once
Did anyone else catch Astarion in the background behind that big rock? He did some kind of twisting movement with his body and then walked away. 😂😂
For some reason I thought he was eavesdropping and then suddenly decided to dip lmao
@@beccazach Probably. 😂
All praise be the God of Wasting Valuable Loot!
"I offer nothing, I inspire them"
"It's not about the heights, but about the lows"
"Look at my humble beginnings, I'm their proof"
Gale used the Crown of Karsus to become the first Redpill Coach of the Sword Coast 💀
At least he had the common sense not to challenge the literal goddess of magic. 😂
grounded ambition, to look at the paths of the past and know the way forward IS worth it!
Ultimate mary sue character
nice guy became the god of amibtion, no way, its over💀💀💀
Sounds like Talos with more steps
This is a whole new level of cringe, Gale. Your power is to inspire people to have ambition? Gods, Gale, that's useless 😂😂😂
*flashbacks to goblin camp with the cleric of Loviatar*
Nah, he's fine, there are gods who induce masochism.
The only good ending for him is chopping his hand of and leave him to die
Bane had the portfolio of ambition before he was reduced to a demi-god. I don't think he'll be happy that someone else took his portfolio.
And Lathander has the portfolio of self-perfection. Even though Lathander is a neutral good god, he can be underhanded. He tried to reshape Faerun's whole pantheon in an event called the Dawn Cataclysm, which led to the deaths of several gods. He probably won't be happy about an upstart god who might try to move in on his followers.
So Ao basically just made him a joke god
how do you get this scene? when i went down the "making gale a god" route, the crown of karsus just went down into the chionthar and the narrator was like "...he'll go find it" and then the game ended.
What were the dialogue options with the sorcerer? What did those lead to?
So basically he becomes Jordan Belfort
My name is tony robbin- i mean gale of waterderp
Sigma gale's final form.
No way Gale became god of inspirational speeches
Damn now I wanna play as Gale
He wqsnt bothing thi, man was literally a gifted child.
I’m wondering now how an ascension for Gale would work without the Full Regalia Of Karsus,
There was the Crown, The Orb & the Sceptre which is never accounted for and a vital artifact for the triumvirate to work;
Perhaps though the Crown (Enhance Mental powers & maintain independence from weave) and the Orb (Battery that powers the entire ordeal) are the only Vital parts,
perhaps there was a substitute artifact or power in it’s place or perhaps Gale found a way to bypass the need for the Sceptre.
In the end Gale can still achieve Godhood but I’m just wondering how this could be possible as the sceptre work’s basically directs the currents of power and articulates its purpose to raise someone to Godhood.
There was a video about his discussion with Mystra and how everyone thought doing this would end poorly for him. I say watch this video and tell me he was wrong.
He knew what he was doing and did it well. I'm actually happy for him here. Ambition is not a bad thing.
Your friend was right, Gale just becomes a crappy, lazy god in this ending. He becomes what he hated. Lazy and hypocritical.
Your friend was right, Gale just becomes a crappy, lazy god in this ending. He becomes what he hated. Lazy and hypocritical.
@@SeventhheavenDK You can tell that just from a 5 minute dialogue, eh?
@@Adanu191??? Are we not supposed to make assessments on anything in the epilogue then. Them thinking this is a negative outcome based on the “5 minutes” is not less substantial than you thinking it was positive.
The issue is that if all you have is Ambition you'll never truly be happy without something new to conquer. I give it a year at most before Gale abandons Tav entirely for something new.
So can you become a literal God if you play Gale as your character? I always wanted to become mad with power. The default gale might be neutral but ironically the god of ambition here lacks ambition himself, I want to sucker punch that AO dude (spelling?) and become THE God. Not for villanous purposes. I just want absolute power.
That's not how it works. Your power is in relation to those who worship you and numerous other factors.
@@loserinasuit7880 Also Ao can within a blink make you no longer a god if you give him reason to. Time of Troubles round two here we come.
3:46 Sneaky Astarion
i would not be bragging about temples outside of thay
I love thumbnail spoilers
I feel like becoming the God of Ambition is gonna be pretty detrimental to him when a group of his followers decide that they want to be Gods of Ambition too :D
How??? I saved humanity in him and get crown to Mystra but I don't understand what I need to do for this new ending.... somebody help please....
i really did hope hed be even more corrupted (if this even worked) when i was encouraging him to go get the crown. i wanted to make him even worse. ah well
Oh no, he is the God of Cringe.
L take.
Is it possible to kill him at the camp here using mods
Wait if we play as him does he have the chance to become a god or does Mystra still kill him?
He's unsuferably arrogant
So this means there's an option where he doesn't fight Mystra and is destroyed in the process?
But I thought Mystra kills him if we choose godhood? Am i missing something or is there away for him to live as a god
I still find his ego a bit unsettling here. I haven’t see all romance epilogues yet.
But during my play throughs, I felt his idea to become a god was born out of some complex he developed due to his ex relationship with Mystra. It seemed like he was just afraid to be not good enough as he is, and that is not healthy.
So my character convinced him of the opposite. Here’s hope for a more wholesome ending. She still got a proposal in the end, so outlook good ❤
I like this ending for gale
Oh so there is a good ending.
At least Tav becomes the god of fulfillment. HOPEFULLY through godhood they'll turn out normal ☠
How can this ending be avoided without romancing or blowing up Gale?
I thought if Gale tried to become a god, he would die. Even Mystra said, "You should have stayed Mortal; you would have lived longer, Gale of Waterdeep," Or something like that. So that didn't happen?
That was Gale's original ending for that route, but they changed it
In the original ending gale tried to usurp mystra, which would've failed like karsus. This is because mystra can simply end herself and unravel the weave, so when gale casts a spell to take over the weave it fails and kills him. They've now changed it so instead of becoming the god of magic he becomes the new god of ambition.
is similar to karsus , the karsus became the first god of ambition when he casted the karsus folly spell . @@sanguinespirit2397
No, Origin-Gale dies since he directly plans to usurp Mystra of her domain, leading her to kill him because he threatens her existence. In this Companion-Gale ending, he doesn't try to do that and instead wants his own domain of 'Ambition', which doesn't threaten Mystra and thus allows him to survive and successfully remain a god.
@@beccazach Wait.. What? What do you mean he doesn't try to do that, Origin-Gale is us as Gale, does that mean we can't have the option to play out the God of Ambition ending AS him? That seems odd if that's true, restricting it to only him as a companion to return like this...
As much as I'd love to give Gale his past dream of becoming a god, it is unfortunately the OLD Gale. Going backwards would defeat all his growing as a character throughout the story for me. As a god, he's nothing like the Gale I fell in love with; just another slacking god that thinks far too highly of himself. And what about what he will inspire in others? Ambition is not always a good thing. I see this version of Gale as the evil version, as evil as he could manage to be. I'm definitely letting him become what his new self would like to become and give him a peaceful life
And Mystra has to be destroyed - she in incompetent for a godess of magic. And once she was judjed for this accusation...
"I can dumb it down" blah
Dr. Manhattan Gale does not exists…
*Dr Manhattan Gale:*
I feel like Gale is the king of god who'd kill you for taking too long to die because he wants to be with you
*Me* Wait till your mother hears about this.
the graphics look better now?
Which ending is this? I thought you have to give up the crown or mystra destroys you.
New ending, mystra only destroys you in the original endings because gale is trying to take her place as the god of magic. They've now changed it so gale realises this is a stupid idea and becomes a new god instead
Honestly, once you have your first dialogue with him where the game reveals the karsite weave can turn him into a god, it shows that he was becoming arrogant and would degrade himself as a person if you support him into doing it. Don't get me wrong, I don't give 2 f*s about Mystra, she should get the Weave and shove it, but while Gale says in some scenes that the Crown would give him an opportunity to better the gods, which is a noble goal, he quickly changes his mind after the scene above.
Good for him
How do you get gale to become a god?