@@rucianapollard4057 Me too. I hate Ross. Did you hear Ross's sister in the video if only there was something that could have been done so what happened to Flo didn't happen?
@@freddie3206 Where does the "hate" for Diana Ross come from? And, were you born during The Supremes' era? Florence Ballard was never "unsung" or "underrated." She was one-third of one of the greatest girl groups. Miss Ballard's complaint was "creative differences." This happened not just in The Supremes, but in other groups as well. It was HER response that created her hardship. She and the late Mary Wilson could certainly have asked what The Supremes role would be after Ross' exit. Miss Ballard could have fulfilled the groups' remaining bookings, she could have talked with industry people. There was no reason for her not to get a record deal. Other artists did. Unfortunately, Florence Ballard is being celebrated as a VICTIM. There is no reason why she couldn't be with us, possibly still singing, like Diana Ross. It's a shame that the wrong message is being sent; some 47 years later. There are books on the subject; the late Mary Wilson's 1986 book, and Diana Ross' 1993 book. They worked with Miss Ballard. Stop relying on gossip. Research Ballard's story, YOURSELF.
I had it on VHS also....when I was in high school....but I think when my family and I moved to a different location...we put it in storage and ended up loosing it....but 💯💯💯💯💥💥💥💥💥💥
all the girls agreed to the name change. the same offer was put to all motown group, only the four tops declined the change. it was more money, they could charge for two acts so all agreed. it was not Diana's decision alone it was not Berry Gordy's decision alone
It's quite eerie how the song "Reflections" seems to coincide with the dismissal of Florence Ballard and what was happening with all the backstage tension.
@Ryan DeJuan: Everyone wants to find songs that bring attention to Florence Ballard's victimization. There was no reason she couldn't have made changes. She could have looked for other record deals. She decided to lock horns. She wasted time doing so, and was removed. Let's not celebrate being victimized. She had so much to offer.
I agree with your sentiments. No "Florence was a victim" stories here. I love all of the fabulous Supremes dearly but I refuse to absolve any accountability away from Florence Ballard and her role in her removal from the group she founded. However, being that she has since passed on and has been deceased for years, I choose not to rehash those things out of respect for her, the surviving members of her family, and the legacy of The Supremes. I just simply stated that many of the group's docu-series coincides the melodramatic melodies of "Reflections" with the termination of Ballard and the thematic changes that came along when they became "Diana Ross and The Supremes".
@@rucianapollard4057 Absolutely. That fall I would be starting freshman year in high school; September, 1967. Florence Ballard was fired in July, 1967.
@@rucianapollard4057 -- Reflections was the last major hit she sang on but I believe the last single she recorded was "In And Out Of Love" recorded June 12, 1967 just before they began that stretch of night club performances that led to her unfortunate termination from the group.
The return to love tour in 2000 was a train wreck from the start. The Supremes Mary Wilson & Cindy Birdsong was just as prevalent as Diana and should have equally been paid there fair share. What resulted was getting Mary's supremes from the Seventies. That made the Supremes fan's livid. Stopped in the name of 3/4th's percentages. Mary's gone now. I guess I'll settle for the 7 minutes from the Motown 25 special.
@Keith Merscheim: It was foolish for the late Mary Wilson to refuse the four-million dollar offer. Ticket sales would have been bolstered had Wilson been in agreement. She let Supremes' fans down; taking a swipe at her group member, Diana Ross. Ross didn't set the terms.
Mary was very Jelous of her. She wasted decades being bitter & Negative with a smile plastered across her face bad-mouthing Diana during many interviews and in her Book. Diana still gave Mary & her Husband Money when they were Broke. It was finally when it was Not Lucrative$$ anymore to talk about Diana that she stopped.
I was a Supreme fan from beginning to end I believe that those three girls had genuine love for each other and it was Berry Gordy who drove a wedge in between them. I will always love the original Supreme but to me Jean Terrell, Mary Wilson and Cindy Birdsong together could have been as Big as Diana.Ross had Berry Gordy's Motown would have given them the promotion that they gave Diana Ross. Had he done that, he may not have been so heartbroken when Diana left for RCA. Once Ross left the Supremes I followed both until the end of the Supremes and continued to follow Ross until the end of the 70's I did nit care for her from the 80' s onward I was always a Msry Wilson fan until her death. She was also my favorite supreme.
@jeromehopson5404: Heartbroken? Don't fool yourself. When Florence Ballard was fired from The Supremes in 1967, she, Mary and Diana's contracts were worth $164,000.00 for nine years of work with their group. By the time Diana Ross decided to go to RCA, after twenty years of work at Motown Records, her contract was worth only $250,000.00. Don't think she didn't do what Ray Charles did, when he was offered a better deal at ABC....."Berry, can you match it"? His answer was "no I can't."His "big star" wasn't making the money you thought she made. She went to RCA in a hurry. Berry Gordy literally was getting over. She didn't fail to mention that she had three kids (at that time she had only her three girls) and she needed that 20 million RCA offered. Heartbroken? Berry dodged a bullet for years....when Florence was fired, her general release gave her $164,000.00 for nine years of work.
And, The NEW Supremes did very well. They had a hit BEFORE the new Diana Ross, solo star. "Up The Ladder To The Roof" was #1 in 1970; before "Ain't No Mountain High Enough" for Ross. The new group didn't start over, they performed at the same venues, did the same television shows, etc. They weren't downtrodden. They did very well from 1970 to 1977.
Old comment, but many sources state that Berry was rather hurt by Ross’ departure. Including Berry himself. But yeah, I don’t disagree with your overall statement. The other Supremes are unnecessarily victimized when they generally did fine on their own.
It is so weird. If Diana Ross were a man, you would applaud her efforts, but because Ross is a woman, we try to denigrate her. Beyonce, Patti, and Smokey Robinson have all created a solo career that has surpassed their career as a group. Yet, for 60 years, we are still talking about Diana Ross career and painting her as some type of fraud. You can't reach the status Ross has achieved if you have no talent. Let's celebrate her tenacity and stop trying to destroy the woman who gave women like Oprah, Beyonce, and Gayle King hope
@@sufundasamuels2313😂😂😂😂😂😂 even though she became a star and her records were hits LONG before she had a relationship with BG?😂 If ur a dummy, just say that
Ms. Ross definitely has excellent enunciation & pitch control. Her meticulous wording within songs & her tone of voice is probably why she is so successful as a artiste. Had her voice been any different as a solo vocalist or with the Supremes she & the Supremes may not have been as successful. On a positive note she is my favourite female vocalist, her voice & tone is amongst the best...
A TOTAL DISAPPOINTMENT! This is yet another Diana Ross story, and not a "SUPREMES" STORY. A Supremes story must center around the group, not around Ross. Further, it must strongly include the spectacular JEAN TERRELL YEARS!
@ain't nothing like the old skool🤎 More Of A Florence Ballard Story ..Because Folks Would Be Like Who's Them Other Girls..They Make A Huge impact So Nobody Don't Want A Story About Scherrie Or Susaye or Jean Terrell 🤔
@@aintnothingliketheoldskoolHandiwork of Dr. Heckle and Mr. Liar, LLC? Everything I said is positive. You, included, (if you're for real) know nothing about the company. All you know is, "you don't like Diana Ross or Berry Gordy, Jr." Big deal. Then, there may be some phony white boys "pretending" to see what black people respond to. But if you're real, you know nothing about Motown Records. I already told you. Why have you come back?
❤ yes I can remember it just like it was yesterday I was 10 years old and everybody in my house was moved to the television and that's when they introduced at Donald Ross was going out on your own she was leaving The Supremes I said wow Mom she's going to do it it's like this everytime I hear this Supremes Diana Ross voice was so smooth she was just fantastic I've been a fan of her since I've been five years old 1965 I was at the swimming pool when I heard her music Supreme every every woman of color went out to get their hair done like The Supremes and my mom's wishy-washy wardwell she would always say this is what Miss Ross said set me free I would just smile the bottom line Miss Raw always will then and now all the ingredients to become the legend that she is mrs. Diana Ross
In Flos taped interview she said Gordy's feelings towards her changed after he mentioned her acting, her reply was she didn't know anything about acting, he lost interest, Flo's song "Ain't That Good News" from the "Sam Cooke" LP was outstanding, why she wasn't allowed to sing it😢 during the Live Sam Cooke medley was wrong, then her two Christmas song were selved never to be heard of for another 20 years, had she been given those opportunities they could have kept peace in the group, on some albums i actually found the boring,one was the Supremes sing HDH, some songs just weren't right for Ross, having at least one sing each for Flo and Mary would have broken the monotony
I’m a big Ross fan but I agree with you. I think the magical part of singing groups is they all bring something unique. They could’ve taken greater advantage of that, and it would’ve assuaged some tension.
This is why I love her 18:23. Diana was attentive. Notice she looks in the monitors and raises her cane to the level Mary’s is at. Assuming Mary had it at the correct level to begin with.
I love ALL of the SUPREMES and ALL of the PRIMETTES!, however, Miss Ballard is my favorite. I would just love, respect and trust her without trying to romance her. I made her an immortal time traveler in an upcoming bestseller where I alter and reconstruct her life and memory in a creatively positive manner. Long live the legacy, life and memory of Florence Ballard! @@@*** Sembene Nathanyahu, author and creator of the future bestseller, "Whisper's Getting Louder", in Chicago. ***@@@
Poor Flo she got the raw end of the deal. There was so much going on at the time a lot of confusion .I think this caused Flo to sporrow. I remember the day Flo died that was a sad day.
Diana looked like a cartoon character in the early days with the wigs, big eyelashes and the way her head dangled on her neck. But she had that X factor the others did not.
…and she was on the swim team in High School. Now, how many black girl can say that? And in the yearbook she was named best dressed…she made her own clothing!!!
No, she didn't have that "X" factor, she just slept her way to the top and she did that part very well by screwing around with her married lover, Berry Gordy....
If this RUclips is supposed to be a Supremes story through 2000 (as noted in the title), the Jean years MUST be considerably featured. She served magnificently as lead for nearly four years, had hits, and kept the group's unique sound and presence alive. Gordy's fear that the initial great success of the Jean-led Supremes would outshine Ross resulted in his negligence in promoting the Jean-led group, and that should be part of this story as well. Instead this video ceases to discuss the group after Ross leaves and focuses only on her. Typical!
Mary and Diana standing in front of the Flo's casket, to me, was the sad ultimate farewell to the original Supremes moment, alluded to in Someday We'll be Together. . . . Maybe there is a brief moment here, even in a brief passing moment, that transpired between both Mary and Diana, and they were authentically grief stricken and real.
Read the updated books on the "Boss". I love Diana, but she and Berry treated the other ladies wrong. Now Smoky talking about sleeping with her. He could have taken that so call news to the grave ♥
It's just "Business ", destroyed a lot of people. It killed other's dreams to build someone else's dreams dreams. Diana and Berry were friends with benefits. ♥
And she made sure to have a baby with the CEO, you can call it selfish and others may say business savvy, but she always, always gave you Glam and Diva, Mrs Ross was/is the Boss. If Marilyn Monroe can sleep with very wealthy and powerful men so can Mrs. Ross. Mrs. Ross knew her worth and knew she didn't have to split the pie 3 ways when she can have the whole pie. She left the group starred in movies and music and became an international superstar. I respect and love her she is the epitome of a Diva, her status is legendary, and I'm just surprised it took them so long to award her that!
@Denise Henry: Many artists have "creative differences." The Supremes are no exception. It's what you DO ABOUT IT that counts. You look for record deals, you don't start getting drunk, missing rehearsals, not showing up for certain dates. Take care of your gift; because gifted she was.....she never should have wound up in poverty, being depressed and becoming an alcoholic.
@@marcchesley3731 Not judging Ms. Ross's choices in life. She did what was best for her. ♥ We must realize that for every action there is a reaction, unfortunately it did affect others lives. Whatever the outcome. ♥
I Don't Know Why Mary Wilson Didn't Get The Microphone 🎤 From Diana Ross When They Both Was Standing In Front Of Florence Ballard Casket.. Marry Wilson.. Should've Spoken Up!! For Florence Ballard And Said Something To Diana Ross ... Inside Aretha Franklin Father Church!! That The Funeral Was Held. R.I.P. Florence Ballard & Marry Wilson 🕊️🙏🕊️🙏.
I remember meeting Maxine Powell before my modern dance class Columbia college alumni. Surprisily when was 3 and 6, I met jean Terrell. She replaced Diana Ross in the Supremes. More my bio later
Yes Diana May Have Paved The Way For Many Artist And Got The Supremes To The Fame That They Have Today But It Never Would’ve Been A Supremes Or She Probably Would’ve Never Been In The Group If It Wasn’t For Florence Ballard Starting The Damn Group That’s What People Forget It’s Crazy
I feel so sorry! For flo cause she is very powerful church goer and jazzy music just like althea franklin and others. Diana ross take the leader of the singer and begin to performance on stage. Cause of berry gordy told to put flo left direction as the back up! The late singer mary Wilson. But it's business and that would makes to led over flo. Diana ross was the boss since the 65! Nobody knows in the audience about this one. I love you! Diana ross . Thank you!
@clbernier2: In THOSE DAYS? What? The 1960's weren't "wagon train" days? How could a great, black owned, independent record company have operated? Psychiatry and mental therapy began in the 1800's. Mental health treatment didn't start TODAY. How do you have a shrink TODAY without having one THEN? I said 1800's. Mental health was an issue as long as the Earth has been here! No, I think she chose belligerence instead of looking out for her interests. A therapist may have been able to assist.
I have to be honest. I saw Diana Ross in concert at Radio City Music Hall and honestly thought it was a waste of my money and time. During the show I looked at my friend, who I also paid for his ticket and said to him, this show was a complete waste of money and he pretty much agreed. When I go see a singer perform, I expect them to sing the songs. Not sing half of each song and then start talking, then bring your whole family on stage and start introducing each one to the audience, then spend so much time off stage cause she wants to change costumes. I'm like girl Tina Turner has wardrobe changes, but she sings her songs from beginning to end. I know Diana ain't Tina, but I didn't pay money to meet her family or hear her talk through her songs. It felt more like one of those Las Vegas lounge acts. But I was not in Vegas. I was at Radio City in New York City. I know artists get older, and they might not have the same energy, but that show was ridiculous. I saw Tina Turner. I believe that same year in Radio City. Tina was doing 5 or 6 shows back to back, which surprised me because I know artists do 2 or 3 shows, then take a day or two off, but Tina was doing all the shows together. I bought tickets to her last show at Radio City. I was expecting Tina's voice might be a little soar because she did perform 5 to 6 shows in a row. Tina Turner came on that stage and sang every song from beginning to end, and her voice sounded amazing. It was as if I was at the first of 6 shows. Now that was a ticket and time well spent. I never went to any of Diana Ross shows after that, not even for free. I'm glad the Supremes Reunion tour was canceled. They only performed 15 shows out of 30 they were scheduled to do because ticket sales were so bad. Not performing with Mary & Cindy ruined that whole reunion tour because of Diana shenanigans. When Diana gets to the gates of heaven, Diana has a lot of explaining to do!!!
Here that song. I can’t help but to think of the Cosby show. 🎤 you know the right time baby🎤lol. But I wondered how the woman the left the group felt after. Just think. There was almost four supremes
@Gina hi Gayle: No. Berry Gordy. Did. Not. People, this is NOT the "Dreamgirls" movie? Berry Gordy, Jr, was not Curtis and Florence Ballard was not Effie, okay? If you are NOT BORN in The Supremes' era, please read the books on the subject. There is too much gossip based on other people's commentary. Do your own research. This woman is being portrayed as strong, when she actually was weak- minded. Go back, learn a little more, and then comment.
@@rucianapollard4057 I am quite sure by the time he said this to her, she was missing rehearsals, not making appearances, and staying in her hotel, drunk.
I song in gospel from childhood to adulthood til they stole the name of a friend of ours group name and the grouo itself and thats the moment i resigned from the group i could not bare the shame of what the guys i was singing with from childhood. Then i parted ways with the guys who had taught me quartet style singing.
Don;t know why people think of Diana Ross as the main lead on the Supremes she is not such a good person .. She completely screwed all of them over including poor Florence who was cast aside .. think documentary is biased if anything the true lead singer was Florence .. but Diana got busy and wanted to take over .. before Diana it was a family and soon after not so much .. I strongly dislike one sided documentaries like this one.. Tell the Truth !
Okay I have held my tongue for way too long., I have been a Supremes fan since 1986. When I was 16 years old. I heard Baby love playing on the radio one day. And I was hooked. Okay Diana did have a beautiful voice and she was also the IT girl. But Florence and Mary were just as equally beautiful as could also sing. The only reason why Diana stole the spotlight, is because , berry g. Had the hots for her. He showed Diana favoritism from the beginning. And then in 1965 Diana and berry became lovers. Gordy then didn't care about Mary and Florence. So he pushed flo and Mary into the background. And promoted Diana to the top. This is how it happened. This is the truth. If berry hadn't been sleeping with Diana. She never would have made it like she did . So stop saying that Florence and Mary were not talented singers because they both were. Like it or lump it . I don't care. The truth has to be told.
On one hand I agree. On the other end: Florence, Mary and Diana were perfection together. Neither Mary or Florence could have brought the sublime quality to the leads the way Diana did, it's that simple.
Even Mary is quoted as saying Berry Gordy didn't take any notice of Diana Ross until the Supreme's third number 1 hit. The romance began after the public responded favorably to Ross' voice. By then he knew he had a winner. The Supremes were the first black group to sell a million records three years in a row (the fourth year went to Barbara Streisand). To this day they remain the most commercially successful Motown group ever. So of course Gordy went with the money, with Ross as lead, just as any record producer would. It wasn't personal. Flo and Mary were already in the background. Why mess with the magic? Could Berry Gordy have been more thoughtful, more caring, more involved in the feelings of these young girls, yeah. But he was a business man first and last, and he probably couldn't believe his luck. People talk about Ross destroying Flo's career, but until Flo left, the girls split 5 cents on the dollar for each record sold. Five cents split three ways, think about that. If that's not exhibit A of money over love I don't know what is.
You spew this tripe as if we haven't heard the same hate filled rants about Diana for years. It sounds like a personal problem cause Diana living her best life selling out arenas at 79 yrs old
That is wrong. It was Betty McGowan who was the last to join the group. Also it was Flo and Paul Williams who first got Mary then Diana and finally Betty.
Flo had that ghetto-black girl attitude where she did not even show up for performances. That is why Berry had Cindy Birdsong in the wings. Berry was ol' skool and did what he had to do because Flo would have ruined the group, the same way Flo destroyed her life after she left the group due to her bad behavior and her drinking problems.
@@mahoganyflame2000 You are correct! These people are Ghetto like Flo. What would Gordy benefit by destroying Florence. Florence tried to destroy the Supremes and that is why Berry got Cindy Birdsong as a backup and had to use Cindy, for Flo thought that she was going to continue to sabotage the group and act out those Ghetto-troublesome episodes. Flo's husband, a no-good Black man, dogged her out, beat her, used up her money, and pumped her up with babies that he did not, and she could not barely take care of. Diana or Berry had nothing to do with that. Then the alcohol and drugs caused her body to give.
@@franklincarter9189 Another one NOT BORN in The Supremes' era. At one point, it was thought that Ross and Gordy would marry. There's more to The Supremes' story than Diana Ross opening her legs. The late Mary Wilson wrote a book in 1986; Diana Ross wrote her memoirs in 1993. There are other documentary-style books available. Let these ladies books give you some insight into their relationship to Florence "Blondie" Ballard.
Aha! Everything Diana did inspired me! Lady Sings the Blues, then Mahogany and after that? Diana could sell cheese, 'I hate cheese except on a pizza put outside of that I hated cheese,' but if Diana's face appeared on the packaging? I'm buying me some dammed Cheese! I loved the WIZ because Diana Ross was the movie! Her concert's shows and I'll never forget when seeing Diana Ross at a concert in Chicago I had a 3rd row seat near the stage right and did I not get a hug from her,' I wanted to tell her how much I loved her etc., but I was like frozen.' I knew there was a god then! Her fashion sense, her style her love of razzle/dazzle was snuck into my out fits as much as I could afford! I was never an abrasive person and it's sad for today's impressionable lady's and fem/gay/gals because they have nothing worth emulating in a classic sense! Watching BET/VH1 scares the hell out of me and the stuff I see all over the interest gives me such a sigh of relieve for a lot of reason but now? Now I'm retired and really getting ready to do the dammed thing! Watch out world! I'm coming! I've always been out!
QUEEN DIVE 🙌🏽❤ I remember the CP concert like it was yesterday, my mom acted like she was rt there when it started pouring rain, although we were in the comfort of our home
I noticed ina interview with flos "CHILDREN SAID THAT DIANA ROSS GABE MONEY TO HER CHILDREN WHEN SHE PASSED BUT I REMEMBER MARY SAYING SHE WAS GOING TO GIVE MONEY TO HER KIDS WHENSHEWROTE HE RBOOK SO I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT?
@Chris M: Not a good observation on your part. There is a moral to the story, and Dorothy:s AGE has nothing to do with it. In "The Wiz," a schoolteacher is encouraged to date, to venture out (by her mother). She gets caught in a blizzard, and her whole life changes. Let me give another example. The "Cowardly Lion" goes to the Wizard to get "courage." He learns that he ALREADY HAS courage, and all he has to do is ACT LIKE HE HAS IT. Because, truthfully, you cannot get it from anyone. So, the Dorothy character is timeless and ageless. So, don't get into the Diana Ross "hating" when you don't know about this story.
That Movie 🎥 Role Should've Went To Stephanie Mills!! Because That Broadway Show That She Did ( The Wiz ⭐.). That Was For... Mrs. Stephanie Mills 1975.
@@donalddavis6689 Motown Industries, having made their Los Angeles move in 1972, were making films. Stephanie Mills had already done her thing mightily on Broadway. She needed the financial backing to bring her version to the screen. She would have had to do the work to get the ball rolling. I don't think anyone stopped her from pursuing the idea.
@@theoneandonlykyle9800 It wasn't intended to be like the 1939 film. It was updated, using the same message. Any one can be Dorothy. That's probably what you're having a problem with. And, you don't have a full understanding of what all the other characters represent either. Does anyone go to school these days? Damn.
Ahahah! When you ask someone like J Randy Taraborrelli for interview it really says it all🤣the master of (not so exquisite) FICTION, the man of great imagination…so sad this package doesn’t include any talent🤦🏼♂️
Strange. Hardly a mention she became a gay icon who no doubt contributed to her solo career. And virtually no mention of her special relationship with Michael Jackson, other than being in the 'Wiz."
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She certainly has star quality and longevity, haters gonna hate but look at her now still going strong 64+ years later - amazing
Strange that interest in Mary and Florence keeps growing while people try their best to look away from Ross's teeth and the rest of her garishness.
@@johnkrieger185nobody is worried neither one of them. Only one supreme is alive and well today
Rita is gorgeous 💃🏾
I think it’s so BEAUTIFUL when Ms. Rita speaks about her sister❤. It made me tear up.
I’m already a fool over Miss Ross, but this was just beautiful
Thanks for sharing this.
you're welcome.
i feel Mary's pain when they are standing in front of Flo's casket
That is the only reason why I clicked on this video.
@@rucianapollard4057 Me too. I hate Ross. Did you hear Ross's sister in the video if only there was something that could have been done so what happened to Flo didn't happen?
@@freddie3206 Where does the "hate" for Diana Ross come from? And, were you born during The Supremes' era? Florence Ballard was never "unsung" or "underrated." She was one-third of one of the greatest girl groups. Miss Ballard's complaint was "creative differences." This happened not just in The Supremes, but in other groups as well. It was HER response that created her hardship. She and the late Mary Wilson could certainly have asked what The Supremes role would be after Ross' exit. Miss Ballard could have fulfilled the groups' remaining bookings, she could have talked with industry people. There was no reason for her not to get a record deal. Other artists did. Unfortunately, Florence Ballard is being celebrated as a VICTIM. There is no reason why she couldn't be with us, possibly still singing, like Diana Ross. It's a shame that the wrong message is being sent; some 47 years later. There are books on the subject; the late Mary Wilson's 1986 book, and Diana Ross' 1993 book. They worked with Miss Ballard. Stop relying on gossip. Research Ballard's story, YOURSELF.
And I can feel Diana's always having to do Ali the work.
@@andrerodman-un2cq ALWAYS! And for the same
amount of money then have the bad attitudes and laziness of the other 2 heaped on her
Some rare shots in here. Quality stuff
Omg I had this on vhs years ago. I watched it religiously.
I always liked her.
Thanks for this never seen it before
you're welcome.
Omg! I still have this on VHS😉
I had it on VHS also....when I was in high school....but I think when my family and I moved to a different location...we put it in storage and ended up loosing it....but 💯💯💯💯💥💥💥💥💥💥
Thanks for posting this. I've been looking for this for a very long time
you're welcome.
They became Diana Ross and the supremes that was the problem right there.
Seemed to work out for the best.
Never hurt glady knight or smokey. Also let's face it only she had star quality. You just have to see her perform life to appreciate that
@@gracegreen1859so true
all the girls agreed to the name change. the same offer was put to all motown group, only the four tops declined the change. it was more money, they could charge for two acts so all agreed. it was not Diana's decision alone it was not Berry Gordy's decision alone
@@gracegreen1859 Best for whom? Certainly not Mary! Certainly not Florence! Certainly not Cindy!
It's quite eerie how the song "Reflections" seems to coincide with the dismissal of Florence Ballard and what was happening with all the backstage tension.
@Ryan DeJuan: Everyone wants to find songs that bring attention to Florence Ballard's victimization. There was no reason she couldn't have made changes. She could have looked for other record deals. She decided to lock horns. She wasted time doing so, and was removed. Let's not celebrate being victimized. She had so much to offer.
I agree with your sentiments. No "Florence was a victim" stories here. I love all of the fabulous Supremes dearly but I refuse to absolve any accountability away from Florence Ballard and her role in her removal from the group she founded. However, being that she has since passed on and has been deceased for years, I choose not to rehash those things out of respect for her, the surviving members of her family, and the legacy of The Supremes. I just simply stated that many of the group's docu-series coincides the melodramatic melodies of "Reflections" with the termination of Ballard and the thematic changes that came along when they became "Diana Ross and The Supremes".
"Reflections" is the last single that Florence Ballard sings on.
@@rucianapollard4057 Absolutely. That fall I would be starting freshman year in high school; September, 1967. Florence Ballard was fired in July, 1967.
@@rucianapollard4057 -- Reflections was the last major hit she sang on but I believe the last single she recorded was "In And Out Of Love" recorded June 12, 1967 just before they began that stretch of night club performances that led to her unfortunate termination from the group.
Fred Ross was handsome!!!
U better be posting more cuz i just subscribed
ok lol
The return to love tour in 2000 was a train wreck from the start. The Supremes Mary Wilson & Cindy Birdsong was just as prevalent as Diana and should have equally been paid there fair share. What resulted was getting Mary's supremes from the Seventies. That made the Supremes fan's livid. Stopped in the name of 3/4th's percentages. Mary's gone now. I guess I'll settle for the 7 minutes from the Motown 25 special.
@Keith Merscheim: It was foolish for the late Mary Wilson to refuse the four-million dollar offer. Ticket sales would have been bolstered had Wilson been in agreement. She let Supremes' fans down; taking a swipe at her group member, Diana Ross. Ross didn't set the terms.
@@michellekirkendall818
Thank you!
This point is what many who are making ignorant comments do not know.
@@michellekirkendall818 I disagree
@@TheDarkDresser No one loves Diana Ross like I do but she was wrong on this one
@@tarawalker1394 That's your opinion. The late Mary Wilson let her fans down. I explained my point, that's it.
Diana Ross didnt push Mary Wilson's hand away OFF CAMERA. It was on camera but they cut it out before the show aired on TV.
Mary was very Jelous of her. She wasted decades being bitter & Negative with a smile plastered across her face bad-mouthing Diana during many interviews and in her Book. Diana still gave Mary & her Husband Money when they were Broke. It was finally when it was Not Lucrative$$ anymore to talk about Diana that she stopped.
I was a Supreme fan from beginning to end I believe that those three girls had genuine love for each other and it was Berry Gordy who drove a wedge in between them. I will always love the original Supreme but to me Jean Terrell, Mary Wilson and Cindy Birdsong together could have been as Big as Diana.Ross had Berry Gordy's Motown would have given them the promotion that they gave Diana Ross. Had he done that, he may not have been so heartbroken when Diana left for RCA. Once Ross left the Supremes I followed both until the end of the Supremes and continued to follow Ross until the end of the 70's I did nit care for her from the 80' s onward I was always a Msry Wilson fan until her death. She was also my favorite supreme.
@jeromehopson5404: Heartbroken? Don't fool yourself. When Florence Ballard was fired from The Supremes in 1967, she, Mary and Diana's contracts were worth $164,000.00 for nine years of work with their group. By the time Diana Ross decided to go to RCA, after twenty years of work at Motown Records, her contract was worth only $250,000.00. Don't think she didn't do what Ray Charles did, when he was offered a better deal at ABC....."Berry, can you match it"? His answer was "no I can't."His "big star" wasn't making the money you thought she made. She went to RCA in a hurry. Berry Gordy literally was getting over. She didn't fail to mention that she had three kids (at that time she had only her three girls) and she needed that 20 million RCA offered. Heartbroken? Berry dodged a bullet for years....when Florence was fired, her general release gave her $164,000.00 for nine years of work.
And, The NEW Supremes did very well. They had a hit BEFORE the new Diana Ross, solo star. "Up The Ladder To The Roof" was #1 in 1970; before "Ain't No Mountain High Enough" for Ross. The new group didn't start over, they performed at the same venues, did the same television shows, etc. They weren't downtrodden. They did very well from 1970 to 1977.
@@michellekirkendall818yes I don’t know why folks like to at like that group were victims it’s delusional
Old comment, but many sources state that Berry was rather hurt by Ross’ departure. Including Berry himself. But yeah, I don’t disagree with your overall statement. The other Supremes are unnecessarily victimized when they generally did fine on their own.
Legend
Rita is very likeable.
Great story
Diana’s voice is magical. I especially love her doing standards.
It is so weird. If Diana Ross were a man, you would applaud her efforts, but because Ross is a woman, we try to denigrate her. Beyonce, Patti, and Smokey Robinson have all created a solo career that has surpassed their career as a group. Yet, for 60 years, we are still talking about Diana Ross career and painting her as some type of fraud. You can't reach the status Ross has achieved if you have no talent. Let's celebrate her tenacity and stop trying to destroy the woman who gave women like Oprah, Beyonce, and Gayle King hope
Diana Ross really didn't have any talent; her talent was sleeping with Berry Gordy....please, let's keep it real.
Well this aged perfectly. Did you see her and Beyoncé?! She is a living legend and no one can say otherwise.
Amen ... you called it
@@sufundasamuels2313😂😂😂😂😂😂 even though she became a star and her records were hits LONG before she had a relationship with BG?😂
If ur a dummy, just say that
and you slept with people@@sufundasamuels2313and you're talentless and a nobody 😂that's why you're jealous of Diana Ross
Her voice isn't very strong and is thin but she has excellent enunciation and pitch control. It's unique.
Don't forget her jazzy/doowop-like phrasing.
Ms. Ross definitely has excellent enunciation & pitch control. Her meticulous wording within songs & her tone of voice is probably why she is so successful as a artiste. Had her voice been any different as a solo vocalist or with the Supremes she & the Supremes may not have been as successful. On a positive note she is my favourite female vocalist, her voice & tone is amongst the best...
But that voice made the other girls money and Motown. Love Ross she will always be Supreme never forget that.
She sings flat a lot now.
A TOTAL DISAPPOINTMENT! This is yet another Diana Ross story, and not a "SUPREMES" STORY. A Supremes story must center around the group, not around Ross. Further, it must strongly include the spectacular JEAN TERRELL YEARS!
i agree, but you can't tell a Diana Ross story, without telling a Supreme story.
And this overall is not even her fault
I agree I think Mary and Florence and Cindy jean Lynda and Scherrie and susaye their own story
And Jean Terrell Didn't Make That Strong Impact For A Story About Her
@ain't nothing like the old skool🤎 More Of A Florence Ballard Story ..Because Folks Would Be Like Who's Them Other Girls..They Make A Huge impact So Nobody Don't Want A Story About Scherrie Or Susaye or Jean Terrell 🤔
My. Favorite. Supreme. Will. Always. Be. F. L. O. Rip. Queen💋💄💜👠💙🌷🌷
Who?
@Gina hi Gayle: Do you actually know why? Have you heard her sing lead?
@@michellekirkendall818 here you go with your hate and negativity and toxic stan behavior and that other person included Dddd Dada dad
@@aintnothingliketheoldskoolHandiwork of Dr. Heckle and Mr. Liar, LLC? Everything I said is positive. You, included, (if you're for real) know nothing about the company. All you know is, "you don't like Diana Ross or Berry Gordy, Jr." Big deal. Then, there may be some phony white boys "pretending" to see what black people respond to. But if you're real, you know nothing about Motown Records. I already told you. Why have you come back?
@@aintnothingliketheoldskool Your channel name is fake, as is the channel name picture.
❤ yes I can remember it just like it was yesterday I was 10 years old and everybody in my house was moved to the television and that's when they introduced at Donald Ross was going out on your own she was leaving The Supremes I said wow Mom she's going to do it it's like this everytime I hear this Supremes Diana Ross voice was so smooth she was just fantastic I've been a fan of her since I've been five years old 1965 I was at the swimming pool when I heard her music Supreme every every woman of color went out to get their hair done like The Supremes and my mom's wishy-washy wardwell she would always say this is what Miss Ross said set me free I would just smile the bottom line Miss Raw always will then and now all the ingredients to become the legend that she is mrs. Diana Ross
18:56 Diana Ross has the best profile and her speaking voice is just as amazing as sing. The evolution of her voice in general is unmatched.
If this is all about Diana Ross, then why isn't she there?
What?
Did you see Lady Sings the Blues, she played a kid!!!!
Ross overacted in Lady Sings the Blues. That's why she did not win the award.
In Flos taped interview she said Gordy's feelings towards her changed after he mentioned her acting, her reply was she didn't know anything about acting, he lost interest, Flo's song "Ain't That Good News" from the "Sam Cooke" LP was outstanding, why she wasn't
allowed to sing it😢 during the Live Sam Cooke medley was wrong, then her two Christmas song were selved never to be heard of for another 20 years, had she been given those opportunities they could have kept peace in the group, on some albums i actually found the boring,one was the Supremes sing HDH, some songs just weren't right for Ross, having at least one sing each for Flo and Mary would have broken the monotony
I’m a big Ross fan but I agree with you. I think the magical part of singing groups is they all bring something unique. They could’ve taken greater advantage of that, and it would’ve assuaged some tension.
This is why I love her 18:23. Diana was attentive. Notice she looks in the monitors and raises her cane to the level Mary’s is at. Assuming Mary had it at the correct level to begin with.
Yes this is what the people notice,Florence was not in sync with them on that part,Barry probably noticed that too! 😮
R N Mary was usually on point with choreography; Diana and Florence would often take cues from her about when to do what.
I love ALL of the SUPREMES and ALL of the PRIMETTES!, however, Miss Ballard is my favorite. I would just love, respect and trust her without trying to romance her. I made her an immortal time traveler in an upcoming bestseller where I alter and reconstruct her life and memory in a creatively positive manner. Long live the legacy, life and memory of Florence Ballard! @@@*** Sembene Nathanyahu, author and creator of the future bestseller, "Whisper's Getting Louder", in Chicago. ***@@@
Poor Flo she got the raw end of the deal. There was so much going on at the time a lot of confusion .I think this caused Flo to sporrow. I remember the day Flo died that was a sad day.
Diana looked like a cartoon character in the early days with the wigs, big eyelashes and the way her head dangled on her neck. But she had that X factor the others did not.
The Supremes were glamorous black girl magic!
…the ugly ducking was also a tomboy, and then Diana turned out to be one of the most beautiful women in the world!!!
…and she was on the swim team in High School. Now, how many black girl can say that? And in the yearbook she was named best dressed…she made her own clothing!!!
@clbernier2
Florence was beautiful in my humble opinion 🙏🔥🔥💯
No, she didn't have that "X" factor, she just slept her way to the top and she did that part very well by screwing around with her married lover, Berry Gordy....
If this RUclips is supposed to be a Supremes story through 2000 (as noted in the title), the Jean years MUST be considerably featured. She served magnificently as lead for nearly four years, had hits, and kept the group's unique sound and presence alive. Gordy's fear that the initial great success of the Jean-led Supremes would outshine Ross resulted in his negligence in promoting the Jean-led group, and that should be part of this story as well. Instead this video ceases to discuss the group after Ross leaves and focuses only on her. Typical!
Mary and Diana standing in front of the Flo's casket, to me, was the sad ultimate farewell to the original Supremes moment, alluded to in Someday We'll be Together. . . . Maybe there is a brief moment here, even in a brief passing moment, that transpired between both Mary and Diana, and they were authentically grief stricken and real.
They glossed over how poorly Florence was treated. Berry constantly called her fat.
People also treated Diana poorly as well. Calling her skinny to that she’ll never make it or can’t sing. Peers at Motown. But she kept it going
of course
Nobody glossed over anything. The fact that there was tension between Florence Ballard and Berry Gordy is mentioned
Read the updated books on the "Boss". I love Diana, but she and Berry treated the other ladies wrong. Now Smoky talking about sleeping with her. He could have taken that so call news to the grave ♥
they always gloss over how florence was treated
It's just "Business ", destroyed a lot of people. It killed other's dreams to build someone else's dreams dreams. Diana and Berry were friends with benefits. ♥
And she made sure to have a baby with the CEO, you can call it selfish and others may say business savvy, but she always, always gave you Glam and Diva, Mrs Ross was/is the Boss. If Marilyn Monroe can sleep with very wealthy and powerful men so can Mrs. Ross. Mrs. Ross knew her worth and knew she didn't have to split the pie 3 ways when she can have the whole pie. She left the group starred in movies and music and became an international superstar. I respect and love her she is the epitome of a Diva, her status is legendary, and I'm just surprised it took them so long to award her that!
@Denise Henry: Many artists have "creative differences." The Supremes are no exception. It's what you DO ABOUT IT that counts. You look for record deals, you don't start getting drunk, missing rehearsals, not showing up for certain dates. Take care of your gift; because gifted she was.....she never should have wound up in poverty, being depressed and becoming an alcoholic.
@@marcchesley3731 Not judging Ms. Ross's choices in life. She did what was best for her. ♥ We must realize that for every action there is a reaction, unfortunately it did affect others lives. Whatever the outcome. ♥
That “Take Me Higher” was the last CD that was released in the U.S.in 1995! Although she did release a CD in the U.K.!
I Don't Know Why Mary Wilson Didn't Get The Microphone 🎤 From Diana Ross When They Both Was Standing In Front Of Florence Ballard Casket.. Marry Wilson.. Should've Spoken Up!! For Florence Ballard And Said Something To Diana Ross ... Inside Aretha Franklin Father Church!! That The Funeral Was Held. R.I.P. Florence Ballard & Marry Wilson 🕊️🙏🕊️🙏.
There wasn't a microphone at Flo's casket. Fool
I've never seen footage from Flo's funeral. 👀
Edit: I've never seen Diana's sister in an interview before.
They make Diana appear to be an angel they don’t talk bout how she crapped on people to get there
Exactly they don't even talk about how she and Berry did Florence dirty in Motown
@@isaiahhenderson3447 true and her stans can't handle that either
@@aintnothingliketheoldskool that's why Mary Wilson was the only true person that stood in Flo's corner
@@isaiahhenderson3447 I know that 🤎
@@aintnothingliketheoldskool I can imagine what it would've been if the name was Florence Ballard and the Supremes
Where is the rest of the documentary?
I remember meeting Maxine Powell before my modern dance class Columbia college alumni. Surprisily when was 3 and 6, I met jean Terrell. She replaced Diana Ross in the Supremes. More my bio later
She was truly an amazing woman!
Now where's the "Headliners & Legends" episode about Matt Lauer??
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I will post it soon.
@tonyrossbackinthedaymusicv3107
- the uncensored version I hope . . .
Yes Diana May Have Paved The Way For Many Artist And Got The Supremes To The Fame That They Have Today But It Never Would’ve Been A Supremes Or She Probably Would’ve Never Been In The Group If It Wasn’t For Florence Ballard Starting The Damn Group That’s What People Forget It’s Crazy
10:18 this looks just like the scene in Dreamgirls lol…
I feel so sorry! For flo cause she is very powerful church goer and jazzy music just like althea franklin and others. Diana ross take the leader of the singer and begin to performance on stage. Cause of berry gordy told to put flo left direction as the back up! The late singer mary Wilson. But it's business and that would makes to led over flo. Diana ross was the boss since the 65! Nobody knows in the audience about this one. I love you! Diana ross . Thank you!
Florence was rapped at a party very early, and back in those days there was no shrinks or help.
@clbernier2: In THOSE DAYS? What? The 1960's weren't "wagon train" days? How could a great, black owned, independent record company have operated? Psychiatry and mental therapy began in the 1800's. Mental health treatment didn't start TODAY. How do you have a shrink TODAY without having one THEN? I said 1800's. Mental health was an issue as long as the Earth has been here! No, I think she chose belligerence instead of looking out for her interests. A therapist may have been able to assist.
Do you happen to have the episode with John Walsh?
I have to be honest. I saw Diana Ross in concert at Radio City Music Hall and honestly thought it was a waste of my money and time. During the show I looked at my friend, who I also paid for his ticket and said to him, this show was a complete waste of money and he pretty much agreed.
When I go see a singer perform, I expect them to sing the songs. Not sing half of each song and then start talking, then bring your whole family on stage and start introducing each one to the audience, then spend so much time off stage cause she wants to change costumes. I'm like girl Tina Turner has wardrobe changes, but she sings her songs from beginning to end. I know Diana ain't Tina, but I didn't pay money to meet her family or hear her talk through her songs. It felt more like one of those Las Vegas lounge acts. But I was not in Vegas. I was at Radio City in New York City. I know artists get older, and they might not have the same energy, but that show was ridiculous.
I saw Tina Turner. I believe that same year in Radio City. Tina was doing 5 or 6 shows back to back, which surprised me because I know artists do 2 or 3 shows, then take a day or two off, but Tina was doing all the shows together. I bought tickets to her last show at Radio City. I was expecting Tina's voice might be a little soar because she did perform 5 to 6 shows in a row. Tina Turner came on that stage and sang every song from beginning to end, and her voice sounded amazing. It was as if I was at the first of 6 shows. Now that was a ticket and time well spent. I never went to any of Diana Ross shows after that, not even for free. I'm glad the Supremes Reunion tour was canceled. They only performed 15 shows out of 30 they were scheduled to do because ticket sales were so bad. Not performing with Mary & Cindy ruined that whole reunion tour because of Diana shenanigans. When Diana gets to the gates of heaven, Diana has a lot of explaining to do!!!
Are you finished? That was a pointless diatribe. 😢
Here that song. I can’t help but to think of the Cosby show. 🎤 you know the right time baby🎤lol. But I wondered how the woman the left the group felt after. Just think. There was almost four supremes
What about Mary Willson
this is from 20 something years ago.
Stop the Hate ! She doesn't know you exist !! 👏👏
a lot of mistakes said in this, starting with she was the 7th of 6 children!!
"Berry saw something else...? Hm, I wonder what that was. Also, I thought this documentary was about the Surpremes.
Berry. Went. After. Flo. First. But. She. Wasn't. Having. It. He. Was. Married
@Gina hi Gayle: No. Berry Gordy. Did. Not. People, this is NOT the "Dreamgirls" movie? Berry Gordy, Jr, was not Curtis and Florence Ballard was not Effie, okay? If you are NOT BORN in The Supremes' era, please read the books on the subject. There is too much gossip based on other people's commentary. Do your own research. This woman is being portrayed as strong, when she actually was weak- minded. Go back, learn a little more, and then comment.
That's the word! Florence said Berry Gordy told her that he wanted to control her and if he couldn't, he didn't want her around!
@@rucianapollard4057 I am quite sure by the time he said this to her, she was missing rehearsals, not making appearances, and staying in her hotel, drunk.
@@rucianapollard4057 That IS NOT THE WORD.
@@michellekirkendall818 yes it is the Word. Early, Early on, BG hit on Florence and she said no.
I song in gospel from childhood to adulthood til they stole the name of a friend of ours group name and the grouo itself and thats the moment i resigned from the group i could not bare the shame of what the guys i was singing with from childhood. Then i parted ways with the guys who had taught me quartet style singing.
She volunteered to pay!!!!!
Diana's voice sounded quite different in 1962. She must have worked her tail off to change it.
Cancelled national tour ? That translates into widespread disinterest.. not a mile marker you can overlook.
Don;t know why people think of Diana Ross as the main lead on the Supremes she is not such a good person .. She completely screwed all of them over including poor Florence who was cast aside .. think documentary is biased if anything the true lead singer was Florence .. but Diana got busy and wanted to take over .. before Diana it was a family and soon after not so much .. I strongly dislike one sided documentaries like this one.. Tell the Truth !
Diana Is Not A Soulful Singer.. A Pop Singer
Okay I have held my tongue for way too long., I have been a Supremes fan since 1986. When I was 16 years old. I heard Baby love playing on the radio one day. And I was hooked. Okay Diana did have a beautiful voice and she was also the IT girl. But Florence and Mary were just as equally beautiful as could also sing. The only reason why Diana stole the spotlight, is because , berry g. Had the hots for her. He showed Diana favoritism from the beginning. And then in 1965 Diana and berry became lovers. Gordy then didn't care about Mary and Florence. So he pushed flo and Mary into the background. And promoted Diana to the top. This is how it happened. This is the truth. If berry hadn't been sleeping with Diana. She never would have made it like she did . So stop saying that Florence and Mary were not talented singers because they both were. Like it or lump it . I don't care. The truth has to be told.
On one hand I agree. On the other end: Florence, Mary and Diana were perfection together. Neither Mary or Florence could have brought the sublime quality to the leads the way Diana did, it's that simple.
Even Mary is quoted as saying Berry Gordy didn't take any notice of Diana Ross until the Supreme's third number 1 hit. The romance began after the public responded favorably to Ross' voice. By then he knew he had a winner. The Supremes were the first black group to sell a million records three years in a row (the fourth year went to Barbara Streisand). To this day they remain the most commercially successful Motown group ever. So of course Gordy went with the money, with Ross as lead, just as any record producer would. It wasn't personal. Flo and Mary were already in the background. Why mess with the magic? Could Berry Gordy have been more thoughtful, more caring, more involved in the feelings of these young girls, yeah. But he was a business man first and last, and he probably couldn't believe his luck. People talk about Ross destroying Flo's career, but until Flo left, the girls split 5 cents on the dollar for each record sold. Five cents split three ways, think about that. If that's not exhibit A of money over love I don't know what is.
You spew this tripe as if we haven't heard the same hate filled rants about Diana for years. It sounds like a personal problem cause Diana living her best life selling out arenas at 79 yrs old
Look at how modestly Diana is dressed at the funeral..Mary dressed like she on the red carpet
Дайана встречалась с Майклом Джексоном для пиара , или они всё таки выбрали друг друга , как 2 равнозначные звезды ?
Randy Taborillie is a jerk and his book is unauthorized
That’s a BS, because my aunt was on Motown. All those evil rumors are just plain jealousy!!!
Billie Rae Calvin of the Undisputed Truth
That is wrong. It was Betty McGowan who was the last to join the group. Also it was Flo and Paul Williams who first got Mary then Diana and finally Betty.
Betty McGlown was never a Supreme, her replacement Barbara Martin was.
Lightning striking against the stage on account the Lord doesn’t like ugly; and not too proud on pretty, either!
Who can forget how Ross an Gordy help destroy Flo's life.
Flo had that ghetto-black girl attitude where she did not even show up for performances. That is why Berry had Cindy Birdsong in the wings. Berry was ol' skool and did what he had to do because Flo would have ruined the group, the same way Flo destroyed her life after she left the group due to her bad behavior and her drinking problems.
You say "helped" destroy her career as if they wanted to on purpose which was not true. It was business and Flo brought alot of it on herself.
@@mahoganyflame2000 You are correct! These people are Ghetto like Flo. What would Gordy benefit by destroying Florence. Florence tried to destroy the Supremes and that is why Berry got Cindy Birdsong as a backup and had to use Cindy, for Flo thought that she was going to continue to sabotage the group and act out those Ghetto-troublesome episodes. Flo's husband, a no-good Black man, dogged her out, beat her, used up her money, and pumped her up with babies that he did not, and she could not barely take care of. Diana or Berry had nothing to do with that. Then the alcohol and drugs caused her body to give.
@@mahoganyflame2000 BS, FLO HAD THE " VOICE" , ROSS JUST OPENED HER LEGS FOR GORDY. PLEASE, EVERYONE KNOWS THAT!!!!
@@franklincarter9189 Another one NOT BORN in The Supremes' era. At one point, it was thought that Ross and Gordy would marry. There's more to The Supremes' story than Diana Ross opening her legs. The late Mary Wilson wrote a book in 1986; Diana Ross wrote her memoirs in 1993. There are other documentary-style books available. Let these ladies books give you some insight into their relationship to Florence "Blondie" Ballard.
I loved her as a Supreme, but when she went solo, something was lost, and I can't pinpoint it.
Not a thing was lost, and she is still the most amazing jewel of celebrity that we have ever experienced!!!!!
Maybe you simply just liked The Supremes, and not only Diana Ross
Yeah the something was 2 dead weights behind her.
@@dddddadadad1796That’s non-sensical!
@@jduwayne1 no. It’s truthful
Aha! Everything Diana did inspired me! Lady Sings the Blues, then Mahogany and after that? Diana could sell cheese, 'I hate cheese except on a pizza put outside of that I hated cheese,' but if Diana's face appeared on the packaging? I'm buying me some dammed Cheese! I loved the WIZ because Diana Ross was the movie! Her concert's shows and I'll never forget when seeing Diana Ross at a concert in Chicago I had a 3rd row seat near the stage right and did I not get a hug from her,' I wanted to tell her how much I loved her etc., but I was like frozen.' I knew there was a god then! Her fashion sense, her style her love of razzle/dazzle was snuck into my out fits as much as I could afford! I was never an abrasive person and it's sad for today's impressionable lady's and fem/gay/gals because they have nothing worth emulating in a classic sense! Watching BET/VH1 scares the hell out of me and the stuff I see all over the interest gives me such a sigh of relieve for a lot of reason but now? Now I'm retired and really getting ready to do the dammed thing! Watch out world! I'm coming! I've always been out!
If you like "Mahogany", you would probably pay to see a home video of Ross sleeping.
They is making this bs up f her way up there
??????
QUEEN DIVE 🙌🏽❤ I remember the CP concert like it was yesterday, my mom acted like she was rt there when it started pouring rain, although we were in the comfort of our home
I noticed ina interview with flos "CHILDREN SAID THAT DIANA ROSS GABE MONEY TO HER CHILDREN WHEN SHE PASSED BUT I REMEMBER MARY SAYING SHE WAS GOING TO GIVE MONEY TO HER KIDS WHENSHEWROTE HE RBOOK SO I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT?
I don't know anyone who likes Diana Ross any more.
Ohh the look on the baby girls face staring at Diana's stomach. Beetch you having another child.
😅😅😅😅😅😅
she was too damn old for Dorothy
@Chris M: Not a good observation on your part. There is a moral to the story, and Dorothy:s AGE has nothing to do with it. In "The Wiz," a schoolteacher is encouraged to date, to venture out (by her mother). She gets caught in a blizzard, and her whole life changes. Let me give another example. The "Cowardly Lion" goes to the Wizard to get "courage." He learns that he ALREADY HAS courage, and all he has to do is ACT LIKE HE HAS IT. Because, truthfully, you cannot get it from anyone. So, the Dorothy character is timeless and ageless. So, don't get into the Diana Ross "hating" when you don't know about this story.
That Movie 🎥 Role Should've Went To Stephanie Mills!! Because That Broadway Show That She Did ( The Wiz ⭐.). That Was For... Mrs. Stephanie Mills 1975.
@@donalddavis6689 But, it didn't. Stephanie Mills did a masterfully, wonderful job on stage. The past cannot be changed.
@@donalddavis6689 Motown Industries, having made their Los Angeles move in 1972, were making films. Stephanie Mills had already done her thing mightily on Broadway. She needed the financial backing to bring her version to the screen. She would have had to do the work to get the ball rolling. I don't think anyone stopped her from pursuing the idea.
@@donalddavis6689 Diana Ross didn't cheat Stephanie Mills out of pursuing the role on the silver screen.
That’s ugly!!!
The wiz was horrible
So is your Mama. When she had u horrible..
ABSOLUTELY!!
The wiz was horrible but that what made it great lol it was so bad it's good
@@rucianapollard4057 From someone who knows NOTHING about any subject?
@@theoneandonlykyle9800 It wasn't intended to be like the 1939 film. It was updated, using the same message. Any one can be Dorothy. That's probably what you're having a problem with. And, you don't have a full understanding of what all the other characters represent either. Does anyone go to school these days? Damn.
Ahahah! When you ask someone like J Randy Taraborrelli for interview it really says it all🤣the master of (not so exquisite) FICTION, the man of great imagination…so sad this package doesn’t include any talent🤦🏼♂️
She has evil on her soul, leading to temptations will send her right to Hell for what she did
I could read you for filth right now but honestly your not worth my time. Thank god for the report button
Strange. Hardly a mention she became a gay icon who no doubt contributed to her solo career. And virtually no mention of her special relationship with Michael Jackson, other than being in the 'Wiz."