My issue with the idea anabolics/androgens causing cancer is there should be far far more bodybuilders coming down with cancer. I dont see that among bodybuilders and ive followed the sport since the late 60s. That would mean cancer should be present in greater percentage among football and rugby players. Those studies sound like bought and paid for results by people in high places are femminizing males here in the US. There has been an assault on strong males and steroids going on 4 decades now.
As a 76 y.o. Natural-for-life competitive bodybuilder, I know that what you have published is the absolute truth. And if we erase or ignore this history, we will continue to suffer the very dire consequences. Very early on I chose not to do the drugs because we knew all along the dangers yet they were mostly hidden or unpublished, but only recently do we (in the fitness field) know the extent. That is why we need substantiated reports like this. Thank you Golder era.
Professor alan klein in his book" little big men" said it best “the appearance of strength is more important than the application of strength. . . . How perfectly postmodern, where surface is substance and larger-than-life is life.” with social media, appearance is everything so damn the consequences. I wish bodybuilding competition would bring back the athletic points that the AAU Mr America used to have.
Bill Pearl called it "sheer madness." And FYI, guys - most women don't give a crap about big muscles.....gym bros do, but are you risking your health to impress other dudes? Stay natural and your family and friends will thank you.
They were on testosterone from the late 40s early 50s. You can just see the water retention. Had he not died early and from such rare cancer form, people like Carlos would have defended him, lol.
Even natural bodybuilding now a days is completely unhealthy with the ridiculous low body fat requirements, is like stevee reeves said , bodybuilding is not health oriented sport anymore unlike in his time, is also sad to think that if Steve reeves was born in modern times he wouldn't fit modern natural bodybuilding ridiculous criteria, even when he mogs all natural athletes to this day and has one of the best physiques of all time
@@dariusdarden9670 No, majority of the silver era bodybuilders were purely and completely natural. Steroids started to exist in the late 50s and were rarely known.
Diurnal variance (rhythmic fluctuations in testosterone throughout the day) allows the body to adjust immune and metabolic processes based on circadian needs. Roiders lack this natural variation and it leads to many of them developing immune dysregulation.
This jibes almost 100% with what I heard at the time, with one exception. Contemporaneously the rumor was that Tom had resumed hard training with a goal of guest posing at Dan Lurie’s big annual show. When he wasn’t getting the response he wanted was when steroids were introduced.
They tried to blame Lyle Alzado’s cancer on roids as well. Dan Duchaine, “The Steroid Guru”, used to push the idea that most steroids were safer than OTC drugs that people bought but he passed away at 48 from polycystic kidney disease. Anyone using this stuff needs to do it very carefully with a doctor overseeing usage and testing. I personally don’t mess with it.
@ He was his own research subject as he used to say. I didn’t know agent Orange was his. That stuff used to fly off the shelves as soon as it was stocked when it first came out. Wonder why they stopped making it. Heard the formula changed and sales dropped.
Great documentary! It’s definitely not worth it. Someone may win bodybuilding titles, trophies and money, but if they lose their health, or life as the result, then it’s not worth it. My advice is, if you can’t build muscle without drugs, then find something else to do.
I think that the first order of business in addressing this issue is to admit that steroids and other body building drugs WORK. The notion that is if you work hard enough in the gym, eat right, and live a healthy lifestyle; eventually you can acquire a magazine cover physique naturally is simply wishful thinking. If drugs were completely eliminated from bodybuilding, the result would be smaller and smoother physiques....period!
if steroids caused his cancer then why isnt everyone else dying of cancer? not enough info in this case, what was he taking and how much? turns out he was a smoker, and that it was a childhood cancer. just more alarmism. steriods can give great effects if done right, espeically with older guys. it just depends on the exact case and the exact compound ans dosage... a greater correlation is weight, the more a guy weight the greater the risk of death, we didnt evolve to bs 300lbs + of pure lean muscle, the heart cant take it.
Yeah, it reminds me of all those crackpot diet gurus out there claiming that food x, y, or z can cause cancer, and that eating foods a, b, or c can cure cancer. Sheesh.
Fantastic trivia! We're lucky that this was documented In that time frame. Makes me wonder if there were a few others just like him that had a similar path but vanished into the ether without any reports. All the more reasons to keep it as natural as possible. If one is not planning to compete on a real competitive elite level, I just don't see the justification in dabbling with any form of PEDs. Train for health and longevity 👊
British weightlifter Ronald Walker died at 40 from cancer. No steroids back then (1940s) but he was a heavy smoker. I read that Tom Sansone was a smoker too. Smoking is the most unhealthy thing a person can do.
No doubt that Sansone was abusing steroids but one cannot become "addicted" to steroids as they are not physically addictive. People can often become psychologically dependent on PED's because of the faster and superior results that they will produce but no one goes into steroid withdrawal when they stop the drug use.
It's sort of like being "addicted" to cars. Car lovers keep wanting to buy the latest and best cars. It's not an addiction but it can become an obsession.
Using steroids is a bad unhealthy practice but we must remember that it comes from some mental issues, psychological or psychiatric, and there's not much to do in these situations. Bill Pearl looked impressive without steroids, so it's sad that he decided to take them. I have a motivational sentence to try to take the people far from steroids: many naturals are stronger than steroid users. This happens because tendons tend to become fragile according to some research on steroid users. In naturals, hypertrophy and strength go parallel (excluding multi factorial situations).
Not condoning the use of steroids at all or minimise the risks, but a number of bodybuilder deaths, especially in the 90’s, were due to diuretic use not steroids (e.g. Momo). That’s why the only ‘drug tested’ Mr Olympia in 1990, only tested for diuretics, not anabolics. Also, no one is forcing anyone to take anything and I don’t believe they do it ‘due to wanting to entertain the fans’. That’s a massive oversimplification of individual multi factorial motivations. If we want to be simplistic we should, if anything, point the fingers at the judging panels/criteria that continue to reward and drive the changing standards of size and conditioning. Sadly, things never go backwards though and humans will continue to push the envelope despite very well known risks. Such is the nature of us as a species and of personal choice.
@@Claudio-Martini Yeah and the worst part is that some bodybuilder influencers like Togi are promoting the drugs to many young audiences which scares me to my bones.
It's incredibly unfortunate that test has mental effects that strongly reinforce steroid use. Most bodybuilders will tell you that test makes them feel amazing, giving them more reason to keep taking it (and by extension other drugs) and making it that much harder to stop knowing they will return to "normal".
He was good a good friend and training partner of Joe Abenda.They were both in multiple articles in Muscular Development.Brooklyn New York Gumbas (Friends).
"You're" version of bodybuilding has not existed in a very long time, It can't exist, it's not a viable sport. You can spend trillions of dollars on it, very few will go watch a show when you can see better physiques in your local gym. It's like saying "too many formula one drivers die so I will start a sport where you can only drive 20km/h", I mean it's a nice though, but it's not realistic. Have a nice day, and sorry if I came of to harshly. Bye from Sweden
It depends on your life compromises. If that's your desire and have no one to leave behind, that's on you. These "competitive" bodybuilders have a mental issue. They know the risk but go ahead anyways. Some would take snake venom if it would make them bigger or stronger. Nowadays TRT is considered being "natty" when is not but in descent doses it does a body good.
The use of steroids should not be rewarded with titles and money. All sports should be clean. If you want to destroy your body and health, fine, but we don´t need to applaud or encourage this practice. Respect for all the natural bodybuilder.
@@pietroanania Two things: 1. Don't be rude to our host. We are guests in his home and need to act accordingly. 2. Please communicate in your native tongue, since you are clearly incapable of communicating in English.
Natural bodybuilding YES but not the way it exists today at a competitive level. Enhanced bodybuilding is setting the tone in terms of BF% etc and this is a problem
As long as there is huge money to make in sports and bodybuilding contest, steroids will be used. The prize to win Mr. Olympia was more then half a million dollars!!
Hadi Chopan took a half million dollar loan in his home country Iran in order to fund his bodybuilding career / journey. He supposedly did this as an amateur shortly after he started working out. Imagine not winning the Olympia or placing top five, and being unable to pay it back. He would be in deep financial trouble. It is crazy but some people are willing to go lengths to achieve their dreams.
@@DG-nb6fe They were on testosterone from the late 40s early 50s. You can just see the water retention. Had he not died early and from such rare cancer form, people like Carlos would have defended him, lol.
It's a personal choice to take any PEDs. I only took the minimal effective dosages and managed to build a healthy aesthetic physique. My name is Dave Palumboism...
@VernCrisler it's true..😟 it's all in the history of life after this. I'm doing regular exercises. No art of bodybuilding for me. Something has to be done..if not careful.🧐
@@What-he5pr like seriously. The worst part is that when you take them and you don't train for a long time within a week or so, you'll lose all that muscle unlike natural ones.
we are not doing anything these people have a destructive way of living if they dont do bodybuilding they wlill do someothing else we need help in our world people need to be happy with normal things we are always told more is better that is the main issue
It might not be worth it for you and I but I disagree with it being idiotic. Not a lack of intelligence that drives this kind of sacrifice. It's the kids (getting into sarms and 'trt'; thinking that it's ok or even healthy)who we should be concerned about. Great content bro, I never miss a video of yours👍
@Shuck-Shick-Blam lol, blood work doesn't show everything about your health...it simply allows doctors to see certain designated parameters...and if those parameters are not affected but something else that was not in the panel is affected...then you are screwed. I know this because I am a laboratory doctor!
@@GoldenEraBookworm I never said that your bloods are the be all end all, but that you can monitor them & they can tell you if you're healthy or not due what they measure. Seeing those markers are what any good doctor should be looking at. They're easy to get & they look at a plethora of different parts to human health. Most of the things that a bodybuilder is worried about IS COVERED through looking at your bloods.
For people who want to become mass monsters it's merely an ego thing, and has nothing to do with fulfilling expectations or entertainment. Don't blame anyone but themselves.
This sounds like fear-mongering. Yes, there are a lot of YT videos on bodybuilder deaths, but this is anecdotal data. There are no YT videos on all the non--bodybuilders who died of the same causes, because that doesn't support the narrative. In fact, the rate of death among bodybuilders is the same as the rate of death among the general population. As you admit, Sansone died of cancer, not steroids. There is no real evidence that steroids cause cancer. The report you cite first is from a Japanese publication from 1993, around 33 years ago. Many of the other articles are also very old studies. In addition, because most of these articles are behind a paywall, we can't determine how many case studies were involved to back up a "positive" correlation between steroids and cancer. If you look at the 2019 report, you'll find that it focuses on modes or mechanisms of action rather than on the gold standard -- randomized human trials. One study you cited only had one (1) patient! The only large-scale studies of testosterone were in men ages 70-88 and men and women in Denmark, and both studies showed NO association with increased or decreased risk of colon cancer. There are also a lot of confounding factors, such as smoking, obesity, etc., and the report admits this.. The report even admits that with respect to CRC, there is "currently no data available." After all, cancer is the second leading cause of death in the world, right after cardiovascular disease, so it's not surprising that bodybuilders, like everyone else, often die from these causes. I do think growth hormones or GH secretagogues (MK677) may be associated with cancer, but again there haven't been any large-scale randomized human trials to move this outside the realm of speculation or guess or hunch, which is too bad. It's all just small sample sizes and anecdotal reports. I hope your paper adopts a proper methodology and doesn't just cherrypick the data to reach the conclusion you want it to be. Unfortunately, it sounds like you've already reached your conclusion, so how unbiased can your paper be?
Looking healthy doesn’t necessarily mean you’re healthy on the inside. Physically and mentally. This is an important story to tell. Thanks for sharing
You're welcome 😊
My issue with the idea anabolics/androgens causing cancer is there should be far far more bodybuilders coming down with cancer. I dont see that among bodybuilders and ive followed the sport since the late 60s. That would mean cancer should be present in greater percentage among football and rugby players. Those studies sound like bought and paid for results by people in high places are femminizing males here in the US. There has been an assault on strong males and steroids going on 4 decades now.
As a 76 y.o. Natural-for-life competitive bodybuilder, I know that what you have published is the absolute truth. And if we erase or ignore this history, we will continue to suffer the very dire consequences. Very early on I chose not to do the drugs because we knew all along the dangers yet they were mostly hidden or unpublished, but only recently do we (in the fitness field) know the extent. That is why we need substantiated reports like this. Thank you Golder era.
You're welcome 🙏
Professor alan klein in his book" little big men" said it best “the appearance of strength is more important than the application of strength. . . . How perfectly postmodern, where surface is substance and larger-than-life is life.” with social media, appearance is everything so damn the consequences. I wish bodybuilding competition would bring back the athletic points that the AAU Mr America used to have.
I haven't read that book, but that is one to add to my list
His cancer was not brought on by steroid use
steroid use probably accelerated the growth of the dormant cancer cells.
Fkin hell finally someone talking sense 😊thanks
@@dancorken5227 heart disease or kidney failure would be more likely from steroid abuse. Cancer was probably genetics or smoking.
Bill Pearl called it "sheer madness." And FYI, guys - most women don't give a crap about big muscles.....gym bros do, but are you risking your health to impress other dudes? Stay natural and your family and friends will thank you.
Truth....though Bill also took steroids
Great video Carlos!
LOL @ the Bill Pearl pics when he was allegedly Natty, and then on gear.
007
They were on testosterone from the late 40s early 50s. You can just see the water retention. Had he not died early and from such rare cancer form, people like Carlos would have defended him, lol.
Even natural bodybuilding now a days is completely unhealthy with the ridiculous low body fat requirements, is like stevee reeves said , bodybuilding is not health oriented sport anymore unlike in his time, is also sad to think that if Steve reeves was born in modern times he wouldn't fit modern natural bodybuilding ridiculous criteria, even when he mogs all natural athletes to this day and has one of the best physiques of all time
Steve reeves was on the juice like all the other bodybuilding greats in his time
@dariusdarden9670 steroids weren't a thing during Steve reeves bodybuilding time and also he was lifetime natural.
@@dariusdarden9670 No, majority of the silver era bodybuilders were purely and completely natural. Steroids started to exist in the late 50s and were rarely known.
@@LexiOni-n2fthey existed pre 50s but weren't all that available
@@gur262 Yes, something like that.
Diurnal variance (rhythmic fluctuations in testosterone throughout the day) allows the body to adjust immune and metabolic processes based on circadian needs. Roiders lack this natural variation and it leads to many of them developing immune dysregulation.
This jibes almost 100% with what I heard at the time, with one exception. Contemporaneously the rumor was that Tom had resumed hard training with a goal of guest posing at Dan Lurie’s big annual show. When he wasn’t getting the response he wanted was when steroids were introduced.
Wow, thank you for corroborating the story and the extra insight.
Excellent upload sir
Many many thanks...i enjoyed this one
They tried to blame Lyle Alzado’s cancer on roids as well. Dan Duchaine, “The Steroid Guru”, used to push the idea that most steroids were safer than OTC drugs that people bought but he passed away at 48 from polycystic kidney disease. Anyone using this stuff needs to do it very carefully with a doctor overseeing usage and testing. I personally don’t mess with it.
I remember Dan he use to have that agent orange pre workout. I didn't know he died from kidney disease. The guy must of taken too many and too much.
@ He was his own research subject as he used to say. I didn’t know agent Orange was his. That stuff used to fly off the shelves as soon as it was stocked when it first came out. Wonder why they stopped making it. Heard the formula changed and sales dropped.
Wasn't he a close friend of Leroy Colbert? He mentioned one of his friends dying early from steroid use.
They all were fake natties
@@dariusdarden9670🤔🙄🤫🤥STFU trolling clown, you haven’t a clue. Less still evidence.
Great documentary! It’s definitely not worth it. Someone may win bodybuilding titles, trophies and money, but if they lose their health, or life as the result, then it’s not worth it. My advice is, if you can’t build muscle without drugs, then find something else to do.
Probably from the original just trt crew
I think that the first order of business in addressing this issue is to admit that steroids and other body building drugs WORK. The notion that is if you work hard enough in the gym, eat right, and live a healthy lifestyle; eventually you can acquire a magazine cover physique naturally is simply wishful thinking. If drugs were completely eliminated from bodybuilding, the result would be smaller and smoother physiques....period!
Drug bodybuilding often looks like just a celebration of drug addicts who live a bad, selfish life, worshipping their physiques.
Once athletes get on gear, for some, addiction becomes a problem. That is a sure fact
Wot? I have taken anabolics and they are very low risk, I stopped using them and might if I can be bothered.
@@TreasurentreatsI've been drinking beer I am sober.
@@gur262 Bruh..
if steroids caused his cancer then why isnt everyone else dying of cancer? not enough info in this case, what was he taking and how much? turns out he was a smoker, and that it was a childhood cancer. just more alarmism. steriods can give great effects if done right, espeically with older guys. it just depends on the exact case and the exact compound ans dosage... a greater correlation is weight, the more a guy weight the greater the risk of death, we didnt evolve to bs 300lbs + of pure lean muscle, the heart cant take it.
Agreed Bro
@@Gloomshadow100 No matter what little amount you take them even for the older ones, they're still dangerous to the health.
Yeah, it reminds me of all those crackpot diet gurus out there claiming that food x, y, or z can cause cancer, and that eating foods a, b, or c can cure cancer. Sheesh.
cope
Fantastic trivia! We're lucky that this was documented In that time frame. Makes me wonder if there were a few others just like him that had a similar path but vanished into the ether without any reports.
All the more reasons to keep it as natural as possible.
If one is not planning to compete on a real competitive elite level, I just don't see the justification in dabbling with any form of PEDs.
Train for health and longevity 👊
British weightlifter Ronald Walker died at 40 from cancer. No steroids back then (1940s) but he was a heavy smoker. I read that Tom Sansone was a smoker too. Smoking is the most unhealthy thing a person can do.
No doubt that Sansone was abusing steroids but one cannot become "addicted" to steroids as they are not physically addictive. People can often become psychologically dependent on PED's because of the faster and superior results that they will produce but no one goes into steroid withdrawal when they stop the drug use.
It's sort of like being "addicted" to cars. Car lovers keep wanting to buy the latest and best cars. It's not an addiction but it can become an obsession.
Using steroids is a bad unhealthy practice but we must remember that it comes from some mental issues, psychological or psychiatric, and there's not much to do in these situations.
Bill Pearl looked impressive without steroids, so it's sad that he decided to take them.
I have a motivational sentence to try to take the people far from steroids: many naturals are stronger than steroid users. This happens because tendons tend to become fragile according to some research on steroid users. In naturals, hypertrophy and strength go parallel (excluding multi factorial situations).
Not condoning the use of steroids at all or minimise the risks, but a number of bodybuilder deaths, especially in the 90’s, were due to diuretic use not steroids (e.g. Momo). That’s why the only ‘drug tested’ Mr Olympia in 1990, only tested for diuretics, not anabolics. Also, no one is forcing anyone to take anything and I don’t believe they do it ‘due to wanting to entertain the fans’. That’s a massive oversimplification of individual multi factorial motivations. If we want to be simplistic we should, if anything, point the fingers at the judging panels/criteria that continue to reward and drive the changing standards of size and conditioning. Sadly, things never go backwards though and humans will continue to push the envelope despite very well known risks. Such is the nature of us as a species and of personal choice.
Yes, I think dehydration is a serious issue in bodybuilding pageants and it's why Jay Cutler says he hated all that stuff when he was competing.
This information needs to put out, so sad these young kids are so heavily influenced by these bodybuilders, then end up taking these drugs.
@@Claudio-Martini Yeah and the worst part is that some bodybuilder influencers like Togi are promoting the drugs to many young audiences which scares me to my bones.
Very true,
To be honest, it seems to me that the evolution of competitive body building is dictated by the athletes, and the judges just respond accordingly.
I’ve heard it said the opposite as well but in the end I think it’s about what makes money ultimately.
It's incredibly unfortunate that test has mental effects that strongly reinforce steroid use. Most bodybuilders will tell you that test makes them feel amazing, giving them more reason to keep taking it (and by extension other drugs) and making it that much harder to stop knowing they will return to "normal".
He was good a good friend and training partner of Joe Abenda.They were both in multiple articles in Muscular Development.Brooklyn New York Gumbas (Friends).
Ive always found mma and body building absurd cause they are supposed to be the pinnacle of health but are destroyed by 35.
Togi not making it to 40 harder than last time
Modern day bodybuilding needs to change. Get rid of the juice
I'm absolutely sure that if shoqs were properly tested, the athletes would think twice. It wouldn't stop some from trying to cheat the system though
There are economic forces at play that make this not possible
Yep..🙄
Bodybuilding is drugs, natural bodybuilding ( true drug tested ) is severely depressing, they look like skinned rabbits
"You're" version of bodybuilding has not existed in a very long time, It can't exist, it's not a viable sport. You can spend trillions of dollars on it, very few will go watch a show when you can see better physiques in your local gym.
It's like saying "too many formula one drivers die so I will start a sport where you can only drive 20km/h", I mean it's a nice though, but it's not realistic.
Have a nice day, and sorry if I came of to harshly.
Bye from Sweden
Sir I agree with your assessment, sadly many will turn def ear. It is hope wiser men will prevail.
Competition is performance so if you go to sport not for life quality, health is physical activity so is another thing !
Gran vídeo! Espero pueda llegar a la comunidad hispanohablante.
It depends on your life compromises. If that's your desire and have no one to leave behind, that's on you. These "competitive" bodybuilders have a mental issue. They know the risk but go ahead anyways. Some would take snake venom if it would make them bigger or stronger. Nowadays TRT is considered being "natty" when is not but in descent doses it does a body good.
The use of steroids should not be rewarded with titles and money. All sports should be clean. If you want to destroy your body and health, fine, but we don´t need to applaud or encourage this practice. Respect for all the natural bodybuilder.
So you're blaming the audience for adults taking PEDs?
We're all gonna make it brahs
💪
great tragic story unknown
That's why I thought I would highlight this story. It's more relevant than ever
@@GoldenEraBookworm sure but I read time ago about another bodybuilder first of him death for steroids.Try to search better
@@pietroanania Two things: 1. Don't be rude to our host. We are guests in his home and need to act accordingly. 2. Please communicate in your native tongue, since you are clearly incapable of communicating in English.
Warning to all!!!
Natural bodybuilding YES but not the way it exists today at a competitive level. Enhanced bodybuilding is setting the tone in terms of BF% etc and this is a problem
peds increase muscular growth as well as cancer growth
As long as there is huge money to make in sports and bodybuilding contest, steroids will be used.
The prize to win Mr. Olympia was more then half a million dollars!!
Hadi Chopan took a half million dollar loan in his home country Iran in order to fund his bodybuilding career / journey. He supposedly did this as an amateur shortly after he started working out. Imagine not winning the Olympia or placing top five, and being unable to pay it back. He would be in deep financial trouble. It is crazy but some people are willing to go lengths to achieve their dreams.
I don't think that is the whole story, lot of teenagers and young adults abuse drugs without any desire to compete
Interesting!!!!
He was natural like the others there were no steroids in the 50s.
All bodybuilders were on dianabol minimum by 1963.
Look at the physiques from 1958-1961 to 1963-1966 it’s obvious.
@@DG-nb6fe He's being sarcastic /fascetious 😂
@@DG-nb6fe They were on testosterone from the late 40s early 50s. You can just see the water retention. Had he not died early and from such rare cancer form, people like Carlos would have defended him, lol.
Professional bodybuilders are in the pursuit of size. Health? Not really. EDIT and sometimes maybe proportion.
It's a personal choice to take any PEDs. I only took the minimal effective dosages and managed to build a healthy aesthetic physique. My name is Dave Palumboism...
😅😅😅😅
As far as I can tell, Dave Palumbo is still alive.
He smoked cigarettes too that's how much he didn't understand healthy living.
That's bad!😒
It spread to the kidneys,lungs, and heart!😨
That's the devil's juice.👿💀😥
Yep, that's a pretty big confounding factor.
@VernCrisler it's true..😟 it's all in the history of life after this.
I'm doing regular exercises.
No art of bodybuilding for me.
Something has to be done..if not careful.🧐
This channel rules. #StayNatty
Thanks
That's why, folks, don't take steroids unless you want to die early.
The association is definitely there
The heart enlargement and lipids effects are scary.
@@What-he5pr like seriously. The worst part is that when you take them and you don't train for a long time within a week or so, you'll lose all that muscle unlike natural ones.
@@LexiOni-n2fjust not factual
@@LexiOni-n2fthats why people are taking it 365 days a year …
I’m not buying this story
no regret...
we are not doing anything these people have a destructive way of living if they dont do bodybuilding they wlill do someothing else we need help in our world people need to be happy with normal things we are always told more is better that is the main issue
Let's go !!
What’s hip today, might become passé.
Every one is accountable for ones own actions. Stop with the victim-hustling
Is he related to the bronze bodybuilder Tony Sansone?
Not that I know of
Such sad that bodybuilding has been corrupted my the roids. 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
Try going natural…
Yes all these kids today say its safe 😂
It might not be worth it for you and I but I disagree with it being idiotic. Not a lack of intelligence that drives this kind of sacrifice.
It's the kids (getting into sarms and 'trt'; thinking that it's ok or even healthy)who we should be concerned about. Great content bro, I never miss a video of yours👍
Perhaps I was being to blunt, but what else would you call doing something that harms you, or could kill you? It definitely isn't smart
@@GoldenEraBookwormYou can monitor your blood work in today's world.
Your blood work can tell you if you're healthy or not.
@Shuck-Shick-Blam lol, blood work doesn't show everything about your health...it simply allows doctors to see certain designated parameters...and if those parameters are not affected but something else that was not in the panel is affected...then you are screwed. I know this because I am a laboratory doctor!
@@GoldenEraBookworm I never said that your bloods are the be all end all, but that you can monitor them & they can tell you if you're healthy or not due what they measure.
Seeing those markers are what any good doctor should be looking at. They're easy to get & they look at a plethora of different parts to human health.
Most of the things that a bodybuilder is worried about IS COVERED through looking at your bloods.
😊@@Shuck-Shick-Blam
For people who want to become mass monsters it's merely an ego thing, and has nothing to do with fulfilling expectations or entertainment. Don't blame anyone but themselves.
He used too much steroids
Bodybuilders are dropping likes 🪰 …
Who isn't?
@ i dont know other sports Im fan of bodybuilding
lol he was a chain smoker and you blame roids..that sounds disingenious
This sounds like fear-mongering. Yes, there are a lot of YT videos on bodybuilder deaths, but this is anecdotal data. There are no YT videos on all the non--bodybuilders who died of the same causes, because that doesn't support the narrative. In fact, the rate of death among bodybuilders is the same as the rate of death among the general population. As you admit, Sansone died of cancer, not steroids. There is no real evidence that steroids cause cancer. The report you cite first is from a Japanese publication from 1993, around 33 years ago. Many of the other articles are also very old studies. In addition, because most of these articles are behind a paywall, we can't determine how many case studies were involved to back up a "positive" correlation between steroids and cancer.
If you look at the 2019 report, you'll find that it focuses on modes or mechanisms of action rather than on the gold standard -- randomized human trials. One study you cited only had one (1) patient! The only large-scale studies of testosterone were in men ages 70-88 and men and women in Denmark, and both studies showed NO association with increased or decreased risk of colon cancer. There are also a lot of confounding factors, such as smoking, obesity, etc., and the report admits this.. The report even admits that with respect to CRC, there is "currently no data available." After all, cancer is the second leading cause of death in the world, right after cardiovascular disease, so it's not surprising that bodybuilders, like everyone else, often die from these causes.
I do think growth hormones or GH secretagogues (MK677) may be associated with cancer, but again there haven't been any large-scale randomized human trials to move this outside the realm of speculation or guess or hunch, which is too bad. It's all just small sample sizes and anecdotal reports. I hope your paper adopts a proper methodology and doesn't just cherrypick the data to reach the conclusion you want it to be. Unfortunately, it sounds like you've already reached your conclusion, so how unbiased can your paper be?
sure roids aint helped but i dont think they can be only one blame for his death. guy smoked bad and it might have been hereditary