Topre Realforce R2 Keyboard Review
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- Опубликовано: 27 янв 2019
- An In depth look at the Topre Realforce R2 keyboard. I also explore the Topre Capacitive switch to see what all the fuss is about.
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Update:
This guy is 100% right, there's no key wobble at all. In the video, it looks like there's wobble, but there's not. Keys are always firmly in your hands. I ordered this thing just out of curiosity, and it's amazing. My hands went from constant keyboard panic to feeling like they're at home on a keyboard again. If you write for a living - or type - this keyboard does help with fatigue, and your hands feel welcome on the keys. None of the panic feeling you get with some the large, wobbly keys on mechanical gaming keyboards where it feels like you're wrestling just to type. I'm sold on this one, will order from Realforce again for backup boards. If I had to compare Cherry MX red, black, and speed silver switches to this, I'd say that all three of those are like off-roading, and this keyboard is like a Sunday drive. If you want to be comfortable while you type, topre switches are perfect.
Also you cannot feel any friction. Try to push one of its key very slowly and do the same with any other keyboard, the difference is stunning. I bought dozens of keyboards in the past, all sorts of keyboards, my realforce with Topre switches is the best so far… and the most expensive too except for the optimus maximus that I shouldn’t have bought.
@@thomast7748 I loved mine, it's to keyboards what real down pillows are for pillows, just very comfortable and no friction like you said fighting against the typist.
I haven't heard of the optimus maximus, was it any good? The only other keyboard I've wanted to try just to experience it again is the old Model F buckling spring keyboards. I don't think I could use one for work though.
Hoping to get one of these one day, been excited for the R2 line since they announced it but It'll be some time before I can justify dropping 250 on one.
2:50 here's what you came for :D
thanks!
I'm guessing this is how it sounds like after it is lubed? Or is this how it sounds like out of the box?
This keyboard is available in ivory white for better visibility if the black is not your thing. I am ordering the limited edition tenkeyless tomorrow with the 45g silent switches and will be Ivory. I had one of the original Realforce boards in black with the numpad but actually gave it to a buddy who was getting into keyboards. Topre is amazing.
The quality of this video 🤤
A few features aside, is there any real difference between then Fujitsu version and the PFU Limited version?
Man, I just spilled beer on mine and it scared me sober. Thankfully, I was able to limit the damage to the . and 0 on the numlock portion of the board. I guess I could stop drinking around it, but then am I really truly *enjoying* it? The price is too damn high for this keyboard, but god is it worth it once you start typing on it. Topre represent!
Sup, Topre bro
Don't want to buy one without trying one. And I reaaaallly want to try one! :) I am a tactile switch enjoyer so this might be right up my alley! The sound is not all that great (at least how I've heard it in many videos) but I am mostly interested in the typing feel anyway.
I've been using my Leopold FC660C over a year now, and I really can't get enough of it. I always come back to it, MX switches just don't feel as good somehow, I'm pretty sure it's due to the superior electrostatic sensing mechanism, and the hysteresis which definitely helps with accuracy.
Done a fair bit of modifications to it; the excellent Hasu controller, 3204 lube, sorbothane for the plate and lower case as well as some acoustic foam in there. Did try BKE Lights and Ultra Lights which were really nice, but i think ultimately I prefer the stock 45g domes. Really got used to the feel and weighting now, does take a few weeks at least to really get into the flow if you are only used to using the common styles of mechanical keyboards.
Is the Hasu controller for programability? How useful do you find it, and what effect does the lube have on the switches?
@@sarfaraz.hosseini Yes, the Hasu controller is for programmability. You can use a pretty user-friendly program called QMK to program it. You can use QMK to move the layout around. You can put any key anywhere, so you could change to a Colmak or Dvorak layout, for example, or any layout you want. You could change the position of backspace. You could add layers or media keys. Lots of other stuff, too.
This keyboard makes you grow up.
Typing with R2 here, I think it's great!
brainbean whats your favorite keyboard(s) of all time?
Can you please give me a suggestion which of these two keyboards I should get either the logitech g513 with the gx blue switches or the bw elite with the new razer green switches? From my point of view I think the gx blue switches sound better but the stability of the new razer green switches is better. The razer's cable is also much more stable than that of the logitech keyboard. But for that logitech WASD has extra gaming buttons. So I wanted to ask you which one you would recommend to me.
If you want hyper stability, buy a Bloody keyboard with LK Libra Oranges.
They're smoother then a lot of switches and that's without lube. They're stabilized and smooth enough to the point that lube is irellivent for them.
Everything fine except the software, which works randomly. Many claims it doesn't start. I personally tried on 3 different Win pro platforms, 7 or 10, eng or localised no matter, it doesn't work. Topre support doesn't exist. Would expect more for the price.
And little more. Using swapped ctrl and caps lock, I notice, that ctrl (originally caps lock) is wobbling. This key should have additional support like other longer keys
If someone does break into your house and this is the only thing you can use to defend yourself and your property, a sharp strike from the thinner side of the board, directed at the side of the neck should do the trick, might require multiple strikes if the perp is of a bigger body size. Good luck defending yourself though, you might need it.
if topre made their stuff cheaper it would be a really good buy, but since they have big shoes to fill with the dumb price tag i dont think its a good idea unless you have **thicc** monies
3:10 LEGO
Background music is very distracting. Might want to use different music and tone it down a bit.
White lettering is impossible on these caps, because they're dye sublimed.
your spacebar is ABS? - I have the TKL 55g Silenced version and my spacebar is PBT.
Yep, same keyboard (R2 TKL 55g silenced), PBT spacebar here too. I'm typing this comment more for the pleasure of typing on it though haha
And for having tried the non silenced version and returning it, I'm pretty sure the spacebar was PBT too.
*Glares at screen with hands on 87U 55g thonky boi*
Just bought one for 160 bucks, barely used from a online store in Japan. Looking forward to finally switching from a heavily used, shitty DELL membrane keyboard.
link??
2:25 F*ck yeah! I want some damn stable keys! My corsair k70 speeds is my second mechanical keyboard and I ended up disliking how sensitive it is and how unstable the keys were which lead to a bad typing experience for me personally.
Although this is a pricey keyboard though , Idk if there are other stable keyboards that don't cost as much
I am late I know but what is that mouse please? 2:51
It's a Razer Atheris
Love the sound of the Topre switches, but not the price tag of the boards.
The price can be attributed to the Topre Electro Capacitive switches (which has a reconfigurable actuation point) that is extremely reliable than a Cherry cross-point switch and the quality rubber dome sheet that provides the tactility. If you get top quality BKE domes, that price will be multiplied by as much as 4-5x, but you'll have a better keyfeel. EC switch board are quite the investment and should be an endgame for mech board connoisseurs.
@@firmament1325 I've wanted to get one of the RK, Plum, or Noppo boards from Massdrop but i always seem to just miss them.
buy once, cry once
@@firmament1325 I have one of these NiZ keyboards. It's nice, but it really doesn't feel or sound like topre at all. If you want the topre experience I wouldn't recommend you get it but if you're looking for something quiet, decent, and relatively cheap then go for it.
What computer case is that?
Splitty thermaltake view 71
Brainbean Thanks. It looks amazing
They kinda sound like romer-G linears
ok
Space bar should be PBT...
Topre uses ABS spacebars because larger PBT caps have a tendency to warp. Saves them the headache of increased QC time.
@@InvidiousIgnoramus I got my R2 TKL 55g silenced from Tokyo and spacebar is PBT...
@@jackwong3626 oh? Did they change to pbt on the R2?
@@InvidiousIgnoramus Yes, all R2s are PBTs... :)
$400 though....
That's the cost of that chonky THONK.
A ultrasonic cleaning, tune-up with some hand crafted upgrades (none of which is "needed" is $100~200)
Replacement OEM keysets (that you also don't need) are anothe $100~300.
Custom cases are like $300-800.
It gets insane.
The lowest entry point is either the Type Heaven or something.
TKL is a superior layout!!!
triggered by no mousepad
If only you weren't paying upwards of $200 for what's essentially an upgraded rubber dome
Type on one and then tell me if they feel like a rubber dome, broke boy
i have smart ass, same verdict
they're nice but not worth the price at all
@@Poopiedoopiedoop882 Topre is quite literally a rubber dome. It might not be dome over membrane, but it's still absolutely rubber dome.
Zane Rickert Well actually the key feel is pretty different. Its smooth and consistent, and if you look at the force curves, u can really see the difference
@@enderbrine3000 You know how the keyboard community is fam. No matter how many graphs and facts ya throw at them, it won't register through their biased assumptions.
This keyboard costs more than Corsair K95 and Razer Huntsman Elite D: at $200+
Yeah and those are overpriced and gimmicky
Corsair and Razer are overpriced as fuck. Even though topre is also overpriced, at least they make quality boards. Can't say the same for razer and corsair.
@@ianv3180 and topre is made in japan, like you don't see that often
I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Keyboards last literally forever. I had used a K95 for around 10 years without a single issue, no cracks, no scratches, no circuit board issues whatsoever. I switched to realforce r2, and it is good, but, if anything, it feels LESS durable. (The K95 had an alluminium board which felt significantly more rigid and longer-lasting.) @@ianv3180
>Realforce
>Very Heavy
Ehhhhhhh, no.
Give 'em a set of BKE Extremes. Now THAT's heavy. Stock 55g on the other hand, as ya said, big nope.
(Do people just have weak fingers nowadays or something?)
@@Spearra they certainly seem to. BKE extremes are pretty amusing to type on, but I would put them just outside of practicality for general use. Considering 55g topre has a bottom out around 65g, I'd call that decidedly middle weight. I personally prefer a bottom out around 70-75g, so stock domes don't do it for me.
@@InvidiousIgnoramus Personally, I use them to basically turn my Topre Clone keyboard into a "scissor switch feeling" type of deal. Except obviously WAY more tactile.
That's feeling being "binary". Either I'm bottoming out or I'm not. I like scissor switches a lot but not many switch designs feel the same.
After eventually lining up the BKE Extremes properly, oh ya, it is just what I wanted.
My minimum is 70g flat so around Unicomp Buckling Springs. Anything lower and I start messing up epically. But like all things keyboard related, its all preference at the end of the day. What is unusable for me (IE most Cherry MX) might be right up someone else's alley.
Btw what's your opinion on BKE Heavies? I definitely understand Extremes are incredible niche, but any thoughts on Heavies, or really the other BKE weightings in general?
@@Spearra Heavies are the only ones I haven't had the opportunity to type on, so I can't speak for them, actually. lights are around stock topre, and ultra lights are somewhat like 35g topre, maybe a bit heavier.
Interesting keyboard, but for the looks i wont buy it
There's a guy who periodically sells nicer aluminum cases for them (currently designing an R2 compatible version) with a "jailbreak" PCB so it can be used with a detachable USB-C cable, but the case costs even more than the keyboard lol
@@Aforgamon yeah money is a thing
RUBBER DOMEH.....
Yeah ima throw my k70 away to buy this one, said no1 ever
@@firmament1325 yeah, no
@@ramirez9567 I would as well. Much better overall quality.
@@firmament1325 no im saying i would never do that cause i dont see how this keyboard has better features and build quality than a k70
@@ramirez9567 You will know when you have a decent keyboard in your hands at some point and no corsair is not a respectable brand 😂 Varmilo or ducky pre lubed stabilizers with nice thick pbt keycaps, damn son
It's how the keys feel in the hands and the soothing thocc that you get when typing that would make you want to switch. But sure, keep your scratchy Cherry MX based Corsair K70 with fancy lighting and shitty software, you have that choice.
how can you be a tech reviewer without a mousepad?
you obv dont care about the functionality of things, otherwise you would get one
iHX not sure if you are serious... that’s just a filming desk. Not my actual desk lol.
Chill out dude