ABKO K935P V2 keyboard review (Topre clones)
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Skip to 6:47 for a typing demonstration.
Today we finally get to take a look at Topre clones! More specifically, the ABKO K935P V2 with what appears to be NiZ switches. I had to do a detailed feel comparison with a Realforce and a Type Heaven to really get to grips with what the differences are here. Hope you enjoy the video! :)
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I'm Thomas and I do videos and reviews on mechanical keyboards ranging from the most sickening modern RGB gaming keyboards to vintage hardware relics, or sometimes keycaps or keyswitches ranging from Cherry MX to Alps SKCM to IBM buckling springs and anything in between.
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The practice sentence was: "Hello my name is Thomas and I'm typing on an ABKO keyboard right now. This was actually a really nice keyboard to use, I'm surprised at how well these Topre clones stack up!"
Great review video. I really like it. I see a lot of questions talked about the switches compare with the NIZ, and we want to say the ABKO does use the same switches as NIZ.
And ABKO is manufactured by NIZ. And the v2 version in the video is a waterproof version, so the workmanship of the case is very high, and it will be very difficult for users to disassemble, but it also shows that the quality is good. I hope everyone likes ABKO and NIZ.
It's a good board, definitely! Thanks for the clarification! :)
Hi, I have a question about NiZ EC switches, did NiZ bought over the right to Noppoo EC switches at some point? I've done some searching online and I found there is a very apparent cut off point between the introduction of two brand's EC switches (i.e: NiZ EC appears after Noppoo EC, both switches never appear on keyboard in the same time period, & that Noppoo EC no longer exist nowadays AFAIK), which lead me to speculate that this is the case, is this true?
@@GlennL42 Haha, you are very careful. In fact, when PLUM was making mechanical keyboard, it was already developing EC switch. Just in time, noppoo needed to make a static capacitance keyboard, so in fact, the static capacitance version and switch of noppoo are all made by NIZ. Although noppoo is no longer available, it's still a great keyboard.
@@leoguo4762 Oh ok, that's new to me, thanks for clarifying :)
Do you know if this keyboard have the 2019 switches or old version?
I was once told that typing on topre clones sounds like boiling water
3:22 This is what I exactly would expect to hear here.
Finally! Thanks for reviewing this, Thomas. To clarity a little bit, the top "aluminium"-like plate is painted plastic. I broke mine when I opened the keyboard for lubricating the switch.
Korean here. The commercial mech market in Korea is really interesting. Instead of the western keyboard market where manufacturers seem to focus more on making sub $100 keyboards with minimal build, cherry switches and decent caps, the korean mech industry seems to focus more on innovative switches and gimmicks or premium build quality and slap the lowest price they could.
This abko was one of the best commercial boards I have tried period. I have used countless boards and for a stock board, this is outstanding. There is another korean board that has optical switches called the "CJ Entus" that come with clickbar switches. Unlike Kailh clickbar switches, these switches come in a medium tactility which is comparable to NOS Pine Alps SKCM White. I highly recommend you try them out.
Would you still recommend that CJ Entus keyboard in 2022? The optoelectric clickbar switches seem interesting.
Are there new Korean prebuilts that you'd recommend in 2022?
I purchased this keyboard thanks to your review. I like it very much. Great typing feel and sound, much better experience than my Cherry MX Blues. It's not just some knockoff keyboard, you can tell they put some real engineering into it. If you're interested, just buy it from Amazon and return it if you don't like it. The main downside for keyboard is that it's Korean-focused - I can't find the configuration software on their website since it's all in Korean and I don't have a disc drive so I can't install it from the included disc. Anyways I would probably stick with Cherry profile if I were to replace the keycaps, since there is some wobble.
9 months late, but 3rd party software could be used if its just for personal computer. Auto hotkey is nice for remapping keys and apparently macros. For example, my keyboard has no dedicated volume buttons so i just remapped some keys i didn’t use to that.
Did you ever figure out the software for this keyboard?
I never figured out the software, I’m afraid. I’m still using it as my main keyboard 3 years later
Yee finally. I luv my topre clones
Thanks for featuring the Shopee MY page. Now to PM if the co. still wants to import one.
As a Malaysian, I took to PM the seller about availability. I won't put my hopes up, since the seller is an overseas one and might struggle to understand.
At that listed price, its only just RM112 cheaper than buying a FC980C board with local warranty and what not.
@@Seatux did u purchase and was it worth it?
@@TheMasterofComment no reply. I guess it's an abandoned listing
@@Seatux can buy from gmarket if you still want try
Just ordered a Niz keyboard for night time use! It cost me quite a pretty penny but I’m really excited!
I've heard that Hansung (another Korean manufacturer) topre clones are a bit better than ABKO ones, but i think they use the same NiZ switches. They differ in their style of case build.
It wouldn't be bad to look out for a Hansung topre if you plan on revisiting topre clones
55g Hansung domes feel identical other than a bit more snap than the 35g NiZ. Probably due to the weighting tbh.
I switched mine out because of the low weighting of the stock NiZ.
Can we get these boards overseas?
콕스제가 젤 좋지 않나요 노뿌중에선?
I don't speak Korean so I can't perform further research.. but should I even consider than Hansung? I am deciding on Abko now
@@TheMasterofComment Hansung GK898B, COX ENDEAVOUR i prefer this two guys.
ABKO is ABsolutley SHIT. I've been using it for about a year, but the Rubber Dome is fast-paced and has a lot of pebbles.
If you come to Korea, I hope you buy these two products. Never buy ABKO!
Decided to get a 2019 NIZ TKL version. Unfortunately it comes with 35g domes, so I'll probably switch those out for the 45 or 55 gram version, but I'm very much looking forward to giving this a try. Now the wait has begun... will probably take quite a while, especially if they decide to throw the Netherlands into lockdown ;p Also: I too believe this keyboard uses NIZ switches. They even sound pretty much identical to 45g NIZ boards. Thanks for the great video! :D
45 is so light XD so 35 is funny
Maybe you can check this, we have the 45g version in stock.
www.nizkeyboard.com/products/niz-2019-new-x87-electro-capacitive-bluetooth-keyboard-non-rgb-white-black?variant=30347148066887
Where did you get yours from? I fancy having one myself (I have the older 87 version from Massdrop) because I was told the newer switches were smoother than the older ones. Anyways, I love mine so much I will probably never go back to MX switches again.
@@tomaskusnir2374 I'd personally only order from nizkeyboard.com or their aliexpress store (or perhaps local options, but we've got none in Europe that I know of) ;p Shipping might take a while this time for me, but I've heard good stories about their shipping times in general. Do keep in mind that they have different stock, despite having the same e-mail adress etc ;p The one I ordered was out of stock on nizkeyboard, yet in stock on their aliexpress store. Currently awaiting DHL tracking haha
@@KindOldRaven yeah I was looking at aliexpress and found one pretty cheap which was nice, I am afraid I might get the old scratchier switches so I am a bit cautious
I would like to see more custom keyboards, and especially properly lubed switches, which i think is the biggest thing you miss out on with stock keyboards.
If we lose Thomas to the lubed pandelios crowd, then all hope is lost. There is enough variety in stock keyboards to keep us entertained.
I'm just absolutely not interested in lubing everything xD .
@@Chyrosran22 lol yea i get that. I definitely enjoy your focus on older keyboards, and i think it is valuable to document older designs.
Would be cool tho to see you collab with someone like taeha types or a lubing service, and review like a 500€ TKL with nice lubed switches.
Typing 6:46
한글이 보임
I'm korean
그뭔;;
translated to: "I can't see Korean!"
@@Forest2TS incorrect translation tho lol
@@permafrost8894 I used google translate, thanks
I am too
I was just checking them out too, how convenient!
They do feel nice without being too noisy, but this keyboard doesn't have real switches.
It's a membrane keyboard with a spring behind each membrane covered key.
I took it apart because one of my keys stopped working consistently.
That's one of reasons why they're so quiet.
The plastic shell is also brittle-there were signs of cracks on mine (and will have more if you try to take apart as the top and bottom are held by just friction and frame clips).
While ABKO does sell membrane keyboards, this one in particular is NOT a membrane keyboard as the internals are similar to Topre. It uses a capacitive PCB and uses a spring under the switches as the capacitive element. The only significant difference between NIZ/ABKO EC switches and Topre is the keycap mount.
@@ethur10nthe domes they use have different characteristics too.
I hope you can make in the future more Korean keyboard reviews, like the cheap AF Qsenn DT-35 (actually using it right now). Thanks for all your videos. I'm planning on upgrading my keyboard for this one!
I’ve used this board at office for a year. Not bad for a budget NIZ board. As I remember, I’ve got this board for KRW 79,000 (about USD 70) when there’s warehouse clearance.
If you want some interesting keyboards to review that have that have clone switches, Redragon has a few ones with Cherry MX Blue and Brown clones. While some are advertised as having replaceable switches (they even include four spare switches in some of them), they have very specific circuitry that doesn't work with normal Cherry MX switches or even the clone switches that they use!
ABKO(=COX)'s recent niz switch keyboards are called endeavour (tkl) & empress, and they are highly recommended. Many people have been satisfied with those keyboards.
Plum is the OEM for Noppoo. Niz is Plum's brand for electro-capacitive keyboards.
5:35 The sublegends are indeed Korean; its script, Hangeul, is what's known as a “syllabic alphabet”, where each syllable is a block composed of individual letters. Everything from TGB left is consonants, while everything from YHN right is vowels.
Thank you for leaving a review video.
I also want to take a video about this keyboard.
*NOTE: I have one and i found that the switches are NOT smooth.*
Theyre smoother than MX Brown but rougher than Vintage MX Black. Theyre rough, but not scratchy, but if youre looking for Ultra-Smoothness than youre in the wrong place. Everything else about them feels awesome though, and they sound even better in person than in this video, especially if you get the full-size keyboard.
I agree with this that they're not insanely smooth out of the box (though I'm sure lubing would help). However I don't notice it at all when typing at speed or while gaming like I can with scratchy linears. The feeling is overall great though and it's nice to type on such a soft keyboard.
The body design reminds me of my Durgod K320. Definitely a budget Chinese build, but surprisingly good for the price.
Can you try a couple more from this brand? They seem very interesting.
Another nice Saturday morning Video with a nice coffe, noice
2:00 He said doo-doo.
Great video. Noob qs to ask... Is it difficult to convert these keyboards to a UK layout (or is it just easier to leave as US?).
They only come in ANSI layout, no ISO version. So you'll be missing a key (like I am, I use ISO-DE), but it can be a key you don't use anyway. (^° in my case).
I want something other than all these mx clones.. but this seems like it’s not that different than a good rubber dome switch.
How do these compare in terms of roundedness to topre?
How does it compare against BTC dome with slider?
topre clone & topre were epic... i love them ~
we actually call it "can metal" in imperial units
Was looking for non contact switches keyboard and your voice is similar to Guy from the game Postal 2 😅
In the Korean alphabet, Hangul, the symbols for consonants and vowels are combined in groups of 2-6 to form syllabic characters. Basically what you're looking at there are the "building blocks" for Hangul script.
Also my goodness typing on this thing is _sooooo_ much nicer than that old Corsair piece of shit I just threw out. I never thought a keyboard could be _comfy._
Thanks, you just made another keyboard explode in price :(
These keyboards are well known among Topre enthusiasts. I don't see why the prices should change at all.
To anyone who has this keyboard, should I get the 45 g or 55 gram? I want the numpad ye I am not sure which one feels better in the common consenceus
It's personal preference. I have the 45g board, and have no issues with accidentally pressing keys. I will say, however, if you are used to Cherry MX or Gateron reds or browns, these switches will feel a bit heavier than those even at 45g because they don't depress at all until you push them past 45 grams.
@@enerjiCS I am used to ibm buckling springs because my freind lended me a unicomp model m lol
Cheery profile 😎
ABKO AR87 is a monster tank model. I think you will like it personally.
Looks pretty small to be to be honest xD .
@@Chyrosran22 haha yes, its size is compact, but it's ridiculously solid and heavy. I put it on my glass desk, and sometimes I worry if the desk surface will be broken suddenly. worth trying still.
@@yannhk Oh jesus I looked it up on Amazon. 8 pounds (3.6 kilos)?! Impressive for a modern TKL I gotta say XD
@@Spearra That's...... not bad xD .
Currently typing this on my Novatouch... don't say bad things about Novatouch ok? Ok!
Btw interesting keyboard and I love the sound, I really do! Might look into this one.
I've tried 65g and 45g NIZ, both being the older version, and they do feel nice, but I much prefer the HHKB. Sadly I don't like the HHKB layout and real topre boards are too overpriced for what they are. Nowadays I don't use either but the release of KBDfans hipro keycaps and the new HHKB might put another dent in my wallet :D
“release of KBDfans hipro keycaps”
Tell me more.
sad you cant open it, a cheaper topre board with those replacements domes could of been the best topre board for less then a HHKBS
are there any topre clones for mac?
The Niz keyboards have a mac mode
In the past you've winced at the price of some of the older/rarer keyboards. You've also said you didn't feel you needed a patreon account. But have you thought of using a patreon without all the perks and gizmos to have to manage just so a few people could help fund the purchase of the older, more expensive keyboards?
Yes, I have considered it, but I don't want to be tethered to something like that. I'd rather just remain some guy who makes keyboard videos as a hobby, rather than it turning into a profession :) .
@@Chyrosran22 Ok, I seem to remember you saying that you had enough to do this for a couple of years. But now there has been 5 years. Concerned you'd be running short. You do really well at your hobby.
@@lucidmoses Thanks :) . At the moment I've got enough material to last me into October or something. But I'll probably get enough donations to last me a bit longer than that :) .
topre clones actually exist? shit, this is really cool! although, a TKL topre board sounds kind of nonsensical, since topre keyboards aren't really meant for gaming.
not to mention, those kinds of keycaps on a TKL look like an identity crisis and a half. still neat though
The weird polygon above the arrow key is kind of ugly. If not for that I would probably buy this.
Yeah, I don't like that thing either xD .
if you still havent found out what switches they are, they're probably "NOPPOO EC" switches
No, they are NIZ.
ACtually sounds good
Ayeeee. More Topre-ish.
I feel like the dude is the cr1tikal of keyboard reviews
not enough phallic terminology to describe things
The irony of a "Hacker"-keyboard, that you can't open. :)
Compulsory insult to imperial system @ 3:31
(let's face it, it wouldn't be a Chyrosran video without it!)
Trying to improve the world, one insult at a time! ;D
March 28
@ 0:10 I wonder if the name of this keyboard was intentionally put together to sound exactly like up-cocaine. :) (There are less subtle attempts at that in marketing, like a fragrance that is actually called Cocaine)
next time please do a microphone review
Be sure to wipe all your keyboards down with Lysol wipes to protect yourself from Coronavirus
♥Chyrosran22
Stabs sound a bit rattly, though. Not as good as on Realforce R2 PFU Silenced
Costar stabs tend to sound rattly but it's mostly or entirely fixed by lubing them heavily
Where is the shitty keyboard at tho?
Next week is the 28th ;) .
yes, that is Korean
0:12 cocaine
No views 2 likes i feel so happy to be one of the first to see this video
Yeah, those look like Korean characters.
Never liked these switches and dont really understand how people find these so different from rubber domes, they just feel like a more tactile rubber domes and with a better sound. Also that wobble is quite bad with stock cherry profile keycaps but go any higher like OEM or SA and i becomes borderline unusable, perhaps 100% unusable with SA.
The secondary characters that are below the alphabets on the keycaps are all Korean alphabet characters.
The right alt (한영) key toggles between the Korean and QWERTY layers and most keyboards in Korea use right alt to toggle.
한 is for 한글 which is Korean
영 is for 영어 which is English in Korean
I don't know much about Korean, but it appears that all the vowels are on the right and all the consonants are on the left. I wonder how that affects usability/ergonomics?
@@Yobleck That divide between the vowels and consonants works really well. A combination of 2 to 4 vowels and consonants are used to make one letter and one vowel MUST be used with the consonants in this combination (a letter consisting of only vowels or only consonants does not exist). So it results in constant left - right alternation keystrokes and, at least IMO, it's quite efficient.
As for ergonomics, from my experience, I don't think it is too different from typing English since Korean pretty much uses the same keys on the keyboard but in a different order. Other than the fact that Korean typing never calls for the use of Caps lock, pretty much identical. (I'm using a 60% board with keycaps that only have English legends and I don't notice any ergonomic benefit/gain from switching between the two languages)
Hope this answers your question.
@@cravasity Not the person you were replying to, but just wanted to say thanks for the interesting insight; I really enjoyed reading your comment!
The rightmost modifier 한자 is alteration between chinese characters(traditional) and Korean. Windows default ANSI 101 setting for Korean keyboard input is RAlt as 한영 and RCtrl as 한자. Sometimes they can be used as seperated kecodes(Windows support it). So full keysets for Korean is actually ANSI-106(101+3+한영,한자).
Although Korean letters are completely phonogram, but there are several instances to use Chinese characters. E.G. Korean word 정의 has 14 different homonographs, so sometimes Koreans write down its original chinese character to clarify which meaning they intend to use.
Holy shit! I’m a lapfox fan too! I’ve never seen another in the wild before!
silenced "topre" has got to be on the best sounds for me i just love it. while normally clips are a bad thing i have the realforce RGB and the top plate is all clipped in. the top is easily undone with fingers and the bottom you just slide a spudger across. super easy and the few time ive had the board apart its been a dream. also the varioable actuation point is amazing, super alpha block and modifiers set low so there is no accidental random caps lock.
Top quality video as always :)
yes silenced topre is the best
I just recently lubed and silenced my realforce R2 and my god it's amazing.
@@shadow0416 i think he mentioned silenced verison domes, but silencing mods are also nice. I will probably lube my just bought topre fc660c after a year or so, because I want to keep the warranty a bit longer
Unpopular opinion but I hate silenced Topre but love unsilenced Topre. The 'tick' on the upstroke makes the thock sounds more thocky and overall the typing sounds better to me. Silenced sounds more scratchy and dull.
God bless that sound. I am buying one of these today good lord
Is there a link to where you can buy one?
Man I love my Plum Nano. The Niz switches make sounds from a whole other planet.
My roommates described it as "boiling water".
Yep, and some version on certain desks basically sound like raindrops on a window from a distance. It's pretty bizarre. It's a also pretty bizarre I'm so fascinated by keyboard sound... but n the other hand I constantly hear my own typing sound so it kind of makes sense ;p
this is just accurate
Love my NiZ 75% 45g, can't see myself going back to a more traditional switch after having this.
Agreed no amount of lubing mx switches has gotten even remotely close to the smoothness my niz has after only lubing the sliders
It's like typing on clouds
After experimenting with Cherry MX switches and Romer-Gs I can't go back to mechanicals. I find that traditional switches fatigue my fingers and wrists whereas with these I can type for much longer periods of time without issues.
I just got one of these today and this was so worth the money. I am selling all my mx keyboards!
r/mechmarket
Saying you prefer these over Topre, man you really want the Topre guys to hate you. Topre are good but BTCs are better. Topre are good but the tactility is lacking. Topre is good but the clones are better. I'm glad though because if these are cheaper and better than Topre then I could buy one without feeling ripped off.
I have 2 of these topre clone keyboards in both colors and I love them but saying that it's better than topre has to just be Chyosran being a contrarian. Topre clones are really bad and feel super cheap compared to the real thing. After using these NiZ keyboards for a few days and then switching back to topre, you will literally be in heaven. I'm not saying the NiZ keyboards are bad, they are just nowhere near the experience of topre and if you want to get an opinion on topre, don't try these. I'm not sure about the variable weight topre realforce keyboard that chyosran has though. I have a realforce 87U 55g and a leopold fc980c 45G and I way prefer the sound and feel of the FC980C. The FC980C sounds more deep and less clacky like realforce topre boards. I also think it's a bit stupid how Chyosran does his comparisons to topre on the variable switch realforce of all things, and the type heaven which is pretty bad as well.
@@vcxz4009 My problem is even if I want to just try them out I can't justify the hefty price tags. There is no Best Buy or other big electronics store to try such a keyboard out. I understand some people like Thomas are contrarians but there are those who are on the other side of the spectrum, those who claim what they have is so special when it really isn't. I sometimes think the Topre people claim it's so good because they are so expensive and have to justify it like Apple users.
@@vcxz4009 what boards would you have me use then? (Spoiler, whatever you're gonna answer, I don't have one :p)
It's just the way I feel xD . I don't give a shit what anyone thinks about that, it's just my opinion :p . If Topre users want to take offence to that, then go ahead I guess xD .
I have a 55g Royal Kludge full-size variant I picked up a couple years ago for $45 that has destroyed my adventurous nature with trying new boards and switches because it just feels too damned good.
3:30 I died
Oh man, that sound is GREAT.
Will you do a review of Niz Plum keyboard? They seem to have a good reputation and many people think that they are great alternatives of Topre.
This one was pretty close wasn't it? XD
@@Chyrosran22 I guess the board wasn't that similar? 😹 Although they may use same switches.
@@ku-1500 The switches and keycaps are apparently the same. The boards are also mad by the same manufacturer. So it's close in many respects I'd say :) .
@@Chyrosran22 it's strange in how they use the same caps and switches but many people swear they feel different..
Wish i could try out Topre or other switches i've never got to use on a keyboard before thinking about buying one, but i don't think there's a test switch set!
Just buy a board and return it if you don't like it! That may be a good way to get a feel for Topre
@ 6:45 Quite a break, a great sounding keyboard for once! :)
As I'm Korean, it feels really weird to watch a keyboard to write mother language in English RUclips channel.
How is life in north korea?
@@user-yk1cw8im4h Life in south korea is harsh enough to be equal by comparison lmao
@@arabiansummer haha life must be hard without the internet for ten months
"Aluminum in imperial units" was funny
Btw these keyboards generally come with a small plastic bag with external springs in them. Apply them to the slider how you would a rubber o ring onto a traditional mechanical keyboard. It makes the weighting "slightly" heavier. Unfortunately mine only came with 52 so choose those 52 keys carefully if its the same with yours XD
Ooooh I miss that thock of topre. I still pine for a programmable HHKB.
Don't they have KCs for the HHKB that make it programmable
"Although NiZ At least doodoo 45 and 55 gram versions"
Ah I am so immature..
poop lol
보글보글....
This goes to show that just because a keyboard or a switch is a clone doesn't automatically make it worse.
Doesn’t the AKKO come with springs for the switches? I thought that was their response to people that wanted the switch to have more resistance
Aluminum. In imperial.
typedef He's not wrong.
good candidate for redux of top x silent switches
Would these switches have made it onto the *_Tactile Switches_* or *_Most Silent Switches_* lists if you could have a do-over?
such a nice deep relaxing voice, felt asleep three times trying to end the video to know about this keeb tho xd
2:00 hihi, he said "doodoo"
You should review a NiZ Plum topre-clone sometime, Thomas. I'm typing on one right now.
I honestly don't really see where the extra amount of money is going. I mean, I get that the companies need to make money and all, but I feel like this is still a bit too much for what is essentially a rubber dome board - albeit, a special one with much-better-than-average build quality. I don't think it's realistically worth more than $80 in my opinion, though some may disagree.
I completely agree. Anything modern over the $100 mark I expect to back up with some features beyond good switches and build quality. This one admittedly is pretty well designed, but feels a bit overpriced for just being a really good rubber dome board.
Well there's no rubber dome keyboards like this out there, besides the twice as expensive Topres or the almost identical (bit slightly more stylish imho) NIZ keyboards, so unless you've tried one it's probably not easy to compare. EC keyboards vs membrane keyboards (the 'standard' rubber dome boards) are quite different. So while I agree I'd rather have these things cost around 80 bucks, there's also really no reason besides lacking RGB while many MX TKL boards are just as expensive or even more expensive than this one.
I like my 87u in its cheap glory
I think the price comes from obscurity, absence of a wide market for that sort of stuff, and the fact, that those who bought their product would not buy it again any time soon because it is made to last. At least nothing can substitute some of the unique, arguably priceless, features of new wireless HHKB, for instance its layout and easely replacable batteries, and, as I believe, appliance of premium material and leading technologies. Can not see what I can by instead of it, but would like to spend less money, of caurse. It would be great to see perfect chinese clone of HHKB, and see how it would stand against its original.
@@АлексейМельников-д9з I agree with almost everything you said right there. But some p art of me is actually pleased that some of the clones (like NiZ) started out as 'poor man's' Topre imitations but have somewhat changed into their own thing. If they keep improving they're simply going to be a 'different' EC-keyboard supplier instead of 'just clones' and I think that's a good thing in the end. Most people will still prefer Topre over NiZ for instance, but there's a small group that genuinely prefer NiZ due to standard programmability, different layouts and the different switch feel. I don't think there's anything truly like HHKB though. At least I've not seen any quality clones yet.
Most importantly, you can customize keycaps!! which you can't do with Topre switches
It's 2am, I don't need sleep...
Mr. Mixy you live in the East coast of the US?
hey it's also 2 am here
@@rapterranger771 Yup, That's the only time zone I'm aware of that was 2 am when the video was published.
Those keycaps. My god. I need them.
Still looking for a Novatouch. I think I'll get this instead :)
I have one and it's great, but it's not factory silenced like this one. I would just buy this instead for sure. That sound is amazing!
My Novaotuch when silenced (with des keys #3) is great, but its underwhelming for the price, though i havent tried the board in this review, Id recommend it since thr build quality of novatouches are worse than realforces out of the box
The secondary keys are Korean
I keep forgetting about American Daylight saving and waiting for your video at the wrong time lol
FarhanAxiq In one more week, Europe will change to daylight savings time too. Then whatever time you're expecting in North America will be right again.
The box drawing keys are in fact just Korean characters 한국 재미있어요 🇰🇷
I wonder how these would sound with thick SA caps!
Amazing