I love how he had the optimism to say, "that's still a 24 year career". Yes! It's never too late to start pursuing a career in aviation. As a 28 year old who just began training, I fell into the trap of thinking "I'll never be able to make this work". This is motivating and very valuable!
Just turned 50 have wanted to be a pilot my entire life. Found out I was colorblind but they now have different tests which I could pass. Just retired from a 27 year career as a firefighter retiring as a Lieutenant. This story is inspiring hopefully I can make it happen.
Congrats on retiring. I've got another 8 years before I retire from the fire department myself and plan on getting on Cargo or Charter for the following 15 years. 2 best jobs in the world. Best of luck to you.
Way to go, Garret! Making it happen! I was a Northwest FA, years ago, and decided to chase the dream also! I took a big pay cut and huge qol cut for several years but it was worth it, many times over! I made captain on the 737 a few months ago. We all have different paths to get there but the common variable is determination and perseverance! Hang in there and enjoy the ride!
Went from IR thru CSEL, CFI, II and MEL in last 12 months...while working full time. It's been a load of work, study time and sacrifice. Way to chase your dream too!
@@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 thank you..just got notified last night that I have an interview for a corporate flying gig on the citation v...pretty crazy how things go!
Just wanted to say thanks! It was inspirational to hear your story. Two years ago I had a workplace accident that crushed both my feet, after 18 months, I'm walking again and was unemployed, and couldn't go back to my previous work. 3 months ago I started studying through tertiary education for a commercial pilot licence. Being 40, it's been a huge change to my life, but hearing your story gave me confidence that it's 'not too late' in life to undertake such a huge career and lifestyle change. Thanks again.
Beards make guys look like scruffy bums or Taliban. The latter would get taken out if in my yard. Not the look to have plus makes guys look like old farts at age 30.
Make sure your "real ID" drivers license picture is the same. If that pic is clean shaven and you have even a small goatee or mustache, you will get turned away at tsa in airports or any other events that are now using tsa.
Oh and the real ID license is not required unless you choose to fly commercially via regular airlines. People with regular driver license will be fine as long as they do not fly commercially> big airports. Small charter commercial flights won't require it. Oh and the other bad thing about Real ID, if you regular driver license, your considered a illegal immigrant even though your really not.
This is so motivating.... im 34 been a commercial diver military police officer factory worker welder..... among other things and I want to be a pilot and when he said he started at 38 it made me feel so good i still have time to make my parents proud and actually have a career and stick with it .....
Agree, some will say you're not ready to solo just so they can continue to log hours, and some can't speak English that well. It's disappointing to learn people just aren't as nice and honest as you thought growing up.
I’ve got about $10K saved up but my medical got deferred. By the time I get my medical, it’ll be spring and that’s when I’ll start my journey to becoming a commercial pilot. Should have about $20K saved up by the time I start and will have a nice enough buffer to keep throwing at my flight time. I’m 28 years old. Can’t wait.
@@anthonybenavides720 you will go from PPL to the equivalent of multi engine turbine commercial qualifed within 2 years, all while being paid to do it. You will be in a training pipeline for 2.5 years, after that, you'll return to your squadron and you can fly for them part time. You'll also get all the benefits of basically being a reservist, so dental, medical, retirement. Jobs are on bogidope.com. I'm not in, but I know several who are.
This is the best video I have seen about aviation!! I was afraid of being too late at 23 yo with no money yet considering I have to work for like 3 or 4 years to save 70k €. There is always hope and a way. Thanks for the inspiration and wish Garret the best of luck in his journey!
My name is also Garrett, haha. I'm 20, and about to start training through a pathway program at Aero guard in Phoenix, AZ in October, or sooner if I decide to. The total I was quoted to get a deferred payment loan for is 96k (having a 10k cushion) and should get all my ratings in about 10 to 11 months. I know I can do it but that cost is intimidating. I really like Alaska also. I'm hoping to get a job with room and board in Denali or Seward this summer before training, and am still trying. Thanks for hosting this interview! Please let me know if you have any pointers, 8ma.
Cost me $4,500 for my PPL SEL back in 1989. To get all ratings up to an ATP was $25,000 to $30,000 going full time. You would be looking at over $100,000 today without any jet time. That why going the CFI route is so common.
@@kirbylee57 Dawn Aeronautics at ILG, New Castle County, Delaware. The full-time students were mostly from out of the Country. The cost may of included some hotel housing discounts on the airport. I believe they closed decades ago.
I'm building an ultralight for the same reason. Well, for several, but that one as well. I did most of my ground school through a part 141 school's online course and got about 5 hours of dual before I realized just how hard it was going to be to retain info from lesson to lesson with the budget to only fly maybe 2-4 hours a month. Dual inst. here where I live is $225+/hr wet with instructor. Long story not so long, my background in R/C crossed paths with the EAB community, and piece by piece and paycheck to paycheck I'm building a Hummel Ultracruiser. None of the ultralight hours can be used towards ratings, but what I can do is take a lesson, and in the couple weeks or so until my next lesson, practice what I've learned in the Ultracruiser at 1.5-2 gph and no rental fee. This way we can drastically cut down on the "recapping last lesson's points" time for each successive lesson. I'm hoping that I can get as close to that 40 hour mark as possible. Actually I think part 141 is 35 minimum for PPL if I remember correctly, so even better. Might not be the most intuitive or cost-effective approach towards a commercial over the long run, but I get to scratch my aviation itch daily, and right now as opposed to bi-weekly or whenever I can afford it, and for me that seems to be working.
Not everyone's roadmap is going to be the same, or even take the same amount of time... as long as you're going for what you want! Your commercial will be well worth it eventually
You will learn a lot of things just building a plane, more than just learning how to fly. Even if it's only a few minutes, get something done every day, and you will finish building your airplane.
If you're spending 18k on a private, you must not care too much about what you're spending. Garret did it right. Finish your written exams before getting in the plane. (I did self-study and didn't need much ground school, but if you do, Fly8MA is only $1.5k for lifetime access to everything.) If you commit to flying at least 10 hours a week, you can have your commercial in 6 months. You could buy something like an old ~1970 IFR capable C-150 or PA-28 for ~$30k. You can probably sell it when you're done for just about what you paid for it if you've only added 200-250 hrs of flight time over say 6 months. But let's say you end up selling it for $4k less than you paid for it. You can finance it for less than $300/month with $4,500 down. Do make sure you get a trustworthy mechanic who doesn't have a vested interest in the plane to do a thorough pre-purchase inspection. For a C-152, fuel is about @25/hr Oil changes and extra oil for top-ups can cost up to $5/hr Tie-down spot up to $100/month Insurance might cost you $800-1000/year as a student pilot Let's say you fly the plane for 220 hours over 6 months, so the use of the plane will cost you about $12k including the $4k depreciation. You'll need to rent higher performance planes to finish up your commercial/multi. Let's say 30 hours @ an average of $170/hr = ~$5k. Add on maybe 60 hours of instructor time: $45/hr * 60 hrs = $2,700 And maybe $1,500 total for test fees. And $1k for supplies. So zero to commercial (SE/ME/Instrument) would add up to about $24k if you did it this way. Budget another few grand for extra maintenance, more dual time, more expensive rentals, or whatever, and you're up to near $30k. For a private only, figure $6-10k.
Henrik Nylund 6 to 10k for a private? Have you priced this in today’s pilot shortage climate? 45/hr for an instructor? No way. Instructors here in CA start at 60/hr. Cheap and old cherokees/cessnas are 145/hr. Throw in a glime syllabus that most part 61 flight schools use and you’re starting at 15k. Want to go ifr? Get out another big loan.
@@friedclutch97 These numbers are real. Some of the costs are somewhat location dependent. But there are lots of places where instructors charge $45/hr. A quick check online shows instructors in Oakland for $45/hr. Probably more of them at that rate in the central valley. If your goal is to become a commercial pilot in 6 months and you currently live somewhere like Palo Alto, CA, you may wish to go somewhere more affordable for your flight training. The main point is that if you're going to be flying a lot, it'll be a whole lot cheaper if you buy an older plane rather than rent.
I've had four planes over the years. They dont depreciate one dime. Shop around and learn all you can. You have just as good of a chance of making $4000, maybe $8000. I found planes needing cosmetic work that I could do myself. I flew one over two years, one I sold in a couple of months without doing anything but painting the top of the tail cone with spray paint and made a little over $5000 on it. Never made less than $4000 on any of them. And that was in the nineties. I'm looking for another one to fly and resell now. They sure have went up though, more than doubled.
So thrilled to hear this story! Really shows that it’s never too late to evolve/nurture (new) dreams. I myself is 24 and currently finishing my bachelors degree in marketing before headed off to flight school. I will be doing the 2 year integrated ATPL program.
I’m 36, burnt out from corporate sales...recently divorced, only 20k in savings. Flight school with ATP is 85k...got denied a loan, in need of a cosignor...it’s a long shot but I’m making the biggest sales pitch of my life to family members who might be able to help and cosign on that loan. wish me luck and pray for me 🙏🏽
@@picksellpaint I am but instrument training is going slow for me in terms of online ground school. Not too easy. In the mean time I'm building up cross country time. Florida weather isn't so great right now.
FLY8MA.com Flight Training I’m going to do it. This video right here really solidifies the decision. His path was smart and cheaper. I’ll be based out of Orlando.
@@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 Yes, I have just started with your ground school training. Great service, I must say. I am a prospective immigrant expecting to come to Canada this year. I have already started ground school, but will begin my practicals late this year. Thanks!!
Well done for going for your dream Garret!!! And thanks for inspiring me even more, so refreshing to see someone go for their dreams regardless of age or financial circumstances 😀
Needed to see that this morning; I'm 33 and was thinking just that--am I too late? I started my private pilot ground school online in April, working full time, started flying dual 2-3x/week in June (summer weather being the factor). I'm out of ORL, which was an expensive choice, but I know that for me, proximity to the airport was important in getting this done. Just passed my first progress checks; most importantly, it's something I love. I'm aiming for CFI/CFII/MEI--I love to teach, I just hate classrooms!
Actually, you are just in time .... for F-15s. 33 is the max cut off age for Air National Guard and air Force reserve. Go to bogidope.com and rush the squadrons like your life depends on it!
great inspiring story. Although I think luck has a good element in this, the entire game changes if the plane suddenly needs a 5000$ repair. or if he next annual costs you a few thousands, or if the CFI ditches (all of these happened to me). I'm not saying it's impossible just that it's a dice roll.
What if your terrible at at math? I can do basic math but I can’t sit down and work out algebra problems by hand. I’m a good judge of distance and angles but I can’t even remember how to work out algebra on paper
With owning your own plane how much do you spend on fuel. I was thinking about buying my own plane and using it to reach my 1500 hours but wouldn’t that cost a lot? Thanks!
Love the video. I have 270tt right now and cannot get a job to kickstart this career, everyere saying get more hours. At $16 an hr in upstate NY it's even harder. If I buy a cheap plane to build flight hours and something goes wrong I would not be able to fix it for a long time plus the Bill's would still have to be paid. I'm also not too keen on the cfi thing as what if I do get the rating and cannot get a job. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Learn to tow, either gliders or banners.. Most glider clubs /operations are always looking for tow pilots and they usually supply the plane and some will train. Great way to build time with lots of flight cycles (takeoffs and landings). Go to the Soaring Society of America website and to the "Where to Fly" link to find operations around the US.
If you're making $16 per hour as a flight attendant (flying 100 hours a month if you are REALLY hustling), you make $19,000 per year. I don't know how he could make $30K. Some of these numbers aren't adding up.
I see many posts of people going for commercial aviation jobs, but what scares me if "rolling the dice" on the HOPE people will not be loose their medical certifcate.
Hi brother very nice and good job thanks but I want to know about what about job after completed C P L .job easily available or your department helped out for finding a job?thanks
Again I did not mean to I hope I did not offend anyone I'm old fashioned old school and I don't do social media occasionally pop on RUclips every now and then but thanks in advance
What’s the fastest or cheapest I should say way to reach 1500hrs before you can apply for atpl?? I don’t really wanna do the CPI thing cuz I dont really wanna teach and paying $200 for each hour to reach 1500 is an enormous amount of money and I don’t really wanna buy a plane. Any way I can maybe just do my CPL and build hours by working for some regional charter or be a corporate pilot? 🤔 any advice is appreciated!
This is giving me hope although I'm older than Garrick 44. By FAA regulating the age you need to retire 67 atleast I won't commit suicide because I did not try
I just turned 50 and was wondering if it was too late to start from zero. How are you doing and do you have anything that might help me decide whether to jump in or not?
I'm 28, living in British Columbia and looking into school that takes 16 months to get your commercial pilots certification. Dors this seek too good to be true?
What companies in Alaska or elsewhere do you know who are hiring pilots with low flight hours? I currently have about 360 hrs with an Instrument and Commercial Rating.
There are occasionally Alaskan regional airlines that post recruitment ads in Flying or Plane and Pilot for low time pilots to apprentice as first officers. I'm looking around at a magazine right now and it's the first issue in forever that doesn't have an ad, but I've seen them in the past. Might try googling Alaskan airline hiring or just check out one of those magazines' websites to find them.
Bryan Austyn Downing yes private pilot liscence, tough instructor, expects perfection from me but mostly my fault for being slow on theory and textbook work
Grad school is about 45k. You can work it off in some programs which kind of makes it free, but they take 2 years and doesn't guarantee a very high salary. Physical therapy is about 150k takes 3 years, eventually you can make 100k. The median income for commercial pilots is higher then a lot of other degrees, and costs less. Pfft I'm thinking the cost is worth it, also buying a plane doesn't sound unreasonable.
@@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 I want to pretty bad, but I don't have the means for paying for it. I am a father of 4 kids and working a full time job, just to put food on the table. Just not sure how I am going to make it happen. I'll keep dreaming... and living vicariously through all the RUclips pilots!
@@flyingclint589 I’m 45 and started private pilot ground school in 2019 and dropped then came back in 2021 and thinking about dropping again. I’m not sure if I’m being realistic with all this considering my age, zero hours, cost, experience and ultimate goal of becoming a cargo pilot. :-(
The title seems a bit misleading since not everyone is going to have access to funds to buy into a plane partnership, qualify for a huge 9k dollar grant to offset a cert or a hookup on a CFI to be available to you on demand and (from I gathered) zero cost. Don't get me wrong, super inspiring story and good on this dude for everything he's accomplished so far. But the title of the video makes it sound like this is something anyone can do with no experience and as I just stated, this isn't true at all without a huge amount of fortune.
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I'm 64 years old and 11 months. Next month I'll be 65. I've decided to become a commercial airline pilot. Never too old to follow your dreams.
I thought you had to retire at 65?
@@regulus6773 you do 😂😂😂
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@@regulus6773 yea that’s the joke😭
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I love how he had the optimism to say, "that's still a 24 year career". Yes!
It's never too late to start pursuing a career in aviation. As a 28 year old who just began training, I fell into the trap of thinking "I'll never be able to make this work". This is motivating and very valuable!
I'm 29 and just beginning my PL! Long road ahead but excited.
how much is it going to cost you?
For how long before you can start making money?
I am 35. I have my CPL license but thanks to covid aviation is dead here, and I am unemployed for 2 years.
phantom plane 2:16 😊👻. Or a wormhole 👽
Alaska man....weird stuff happens
I need one of those planes.
Wtf
As a 33 year old looking into being a commercial pilot this video helped me a LOT. Thanks!!!
As a fellow 33 year old, I hope you were able to achieve your goal! If not, keep chasing your dreams! I hope life is treating you well, friend!
Hey Austin! Can you update us on your status please? I am really interested in the path you chose
Austin how is flight school
Just turned 50 have wanted to be a pilot my entire life. Found out I was colorblind but they now have different tests which I could pass. Just retired from a 27 year career as a firefighter retiring as a Lieutenant. This story is inspiring hopefully I can make it happen.
I'm about to retire with 27years career firefighter. Options are another department or pilot.
Looking into this direction. Any advice?
Congrats on retiring. I've got another 8 years before I retire from the fire department myself and plan on getting on Cargo or Charter for the following 15 years. 2 best jobs in the world. Best of luck to you.
Hell yes!
Are u a pilot yet?
Way to go, Garret! Making it happen! I was a Northwest FA, years ago, and decided to chase the dream also! I took a big pay cut and huge qol cut for several years but it was worth it, many times over! I made captain on the 737 a few months ago. We all have different paths to get there but the common variable is determination and perseverance! Hang in there and enjoy the ride!
Exactly it... not everyone's roadmap will be the same, but it's always achievable! Cheers!!
Great motivation. I’m turning 20 years old this year and videos like these keep motivating me to chase my dream job of becoming an airline pilot.
Best of luck to ya!
So, you're going to college and joining the military hoping to get accepted in flight school?
As someone who's about to turn 38, I must thank you both for the inspiration.
It's never too late to start your dream!
Just turned 37, and just got a 93% on my written PPL thanks to Jon!
Same. Ill be 38 in December. Im starting ground school in June. Hopefully gonna finish my PPL by end of the year.
40 here and making the leap. Life is short, and there's a lot to do!
@@IROCZSPEED congratulations what flight school are you going???
Earned my instrument rating yesterday at age 43. Never too late.
After 4 years, what are you into today ?
Went from IR thru CSEL, CFI, II and MEL in last 12 months...while working full time. It's been a load of work, study time and sacrifice. Way to chase your dream too!
That's a ton of work... congrats Frank!!
@@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 thank you..just got notified last night that I have an interview for a corporate flying gig on the citation v...pretty crazy how things go!
That's amazing!! Good luck to you!
What happened with the interview
@@camronjohn3315 I've been flying the citation v for the last two years full time and actually just got my 2nd type rating in a Falcon 50.
Just wanted to say thanks! It was inspirational to hear your story. Two years ago I had a workplace accident that crushed both my feet, after 18 months, I'm walking again and was unemployed, and couldn't go back to my previous work. 3 months ago I started studying through tertiary education for a commercial pilot licence. Being 40, it's been a huge change to my life, but hearing your story gave me confidence that it's 'not too late' in life to undertake such a huge career and lifestyle change.
Thanks again.
Hey man, sorry to hear about your work accident but I’m glad your heading in the right direction brother!
The beard makes you look like a Disney villain. That is all.
Beards make guys look like scruffy bums or Taliban. The latter would get taken out if in my yard. Not the look to have plus makes guys look like old farts at age 30.
Make sure your "real ID" drivers license picture is the same. If that pic is clean shaven and you have even a small goatee or mustache, you will get turned away at tsa in airports or any other events that are now using tsa.
Oh and the real ID license is not required unless you choose to fly commercially via regular airlines. People with regular driver license will be fine as long as they do not fly commercially> big airports. Small charter commercial flights won't require it. Oh and the other bad thing about Real ID, if you regular driver license, your considered a illegal immigrant even though your really not.
@@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq -- Deported to Afghanistan? LOL. He is a great CFI.. Taliban Airlines will hire him on arrival. LOL..
@@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq I have a full beard now, and my Real ID does not have me with a beard. I just returned from London with no issues at all.
I'm 35 been on my first flight 3 days ago. And now I want to be a pilot. These testimonies are giving more hope
Which flight school did you choose?
This is so motivating.... im 34 been a commercial diver military police officer factory worker welder..... among other things and I want to be a pilot and when he said he started at 38 it made me feel so good i still have time to make my parents proud and actually have a career and stick with it .....
Great story. Fly8MA... still hoping to pull a trigger at age 55 next year
I'm just now reading your comment in 2024. Did you ever decide to pull the trigger? Did you stop at private or decide to go to commercial?
So inspiring! I’m also 37 and am taking the jump to get my cpl. Thanks for making this video!!
Best of luck to you!!
2 years later , how’d it go ? Please give update
The amount of training cost is depends on a flight instructor too, if you lucky to get the good one you reduce the cost significantly.
Kasra Razavi yep, it varies globally. Typically regarded as an expensive career path, though in some places you can get some pretty good deals.
Agree, some will say you're not ready to solo just so they can continue to log hours, and some can't speak English that well. It's disappointing to learn people just aren't as nice and honest as you thought growing up.
@@kirbylee57 agree.
I’ve got about $10K saved up but my medical got deferred. By the time I get my medical, it’ll be spring and that’s when I’ll start my journey to becoming a commercial pilot. Should have about $20K saved up by the time I start and will have a nice enough buffer to keep throwing at my flight time.
I’m 28 years old. Can’t wait.
How many hours will you have when you apply for a job?
Kirby I’m going all the way to airline minimums for my ATP so 1500. When it’s all said and done I’m looking at around $60K.
At your age, you may want to consider the air national guard as well.
Jonathan Schmidt Didn’t consider that, what kind of opportunities or benefits come from the Air National Guard
@@anthonybenavides720 you will go from PPL to the equivalent of multi engine turbine commercial qualifed within 2 years, all while being paid to do it. You will be in a training pipeline for 2.5 years, after that, you'll return to your squadron and you can fly for them part time. You'll also get all the benefits of basically being a reservist, so dental, medical, retirement. Jobs are on bogidope.com. I'm not in, but I know several who are.
This is the best video I have seen about aviation!! I was afraid of being too late at 23 yo with no money yet considering I have to work for like 3 or 4 years to save 70k €. There is always hope and a way. Thanks for the inspiration and wish Garret the best of luck in his journey!
My name is also Garrett, haha. I'm 20, and about to start training through a pathway program at Aero guard in Phoenix, AZ in October, or sooner if I decide to. The total I was quoted to get a deferred payment loan for is 96k (having a 10k cushion) and should get all my ratings in about 10 to 11 months. I know I can do it but that cost is intimidating. I really like Alaska also. I'm hoping to get a job with room and board in Denali or Seward this summer before training, and am still trying. Thanks for hosting this interview! Please let me know if you have any pointers, 8ma.
Awesome he’s older and it still didn’t stop hem now he’s set the bar higher!
him
Cost me $4,500 for my PPL SEL back in 1989. To get all ratings up to an ATP was $25,000 to $30,000 going full time. You would be looking at over $100,000 today without any jet time. That why going the CFI route is so common.
Going full time where?
@@kirbylee57 Dawn Aeronautics at ILG, New Castle County, Delaware. The full-time students were mostly from out of the Country. The cost may of included some hotel housing discounts on the airport. I believe they closed decades ago.
@@timwildey7974 are u a pilot now ?
I'm building an ultralight for the same reason. Well, for several, but that one as well. I did most of my ground school through a part 141 school's online course and got about 5 hours of dual before I realized just how hard it was going to be to retain info from lesson to lesson with the budget to only fly maybe 2-4 hours a month. Dual inst. here where I live is $225+/hr wet with instructor.
Long story not so long, my background in R/C crossed paths with the EAB community, and piece by piece and paycheck to paycheck I'm building a Hummel Ultracruiser. None of the ultralight hours can be used towards ratings, but what I can do is take a lesson, and in the couple weeks or so until my next lesson, practice what I've learned in the Ultracruiser at 1.5-2 gph and no rental fee. This way we can drastically cut down on the "recapping last lesson's points" time for each successive lesson. I'm hoping that I can get as close to that 40 hour mark as possible. Actually I think part 141 is 35 minimum for PPL if I remember correctly, so even better.
Might not be the most intuitive or cost-effective approach towards a commercial over the long run, but I get to scratch my aviation itch daily, and right now as opposed to bi-weekly or whenever I can afford it, and for me that seems to be working.
Not everyone's roadmap is going to be the same, or even take the same amount of time... as long as you're going for what you want! Your commercial will be well worth it eventually
You will learn a lot of things just building a plane, more than just learning how to fly. Even if it's only a few minutes, get something done every day, and you will finish building your airplane.
I’m leaving a law Enforcement career at 37 to start flight training next month in Florida, never too old. Please post an Updated on him in the future.
We definitely will, and good luck to you!! That's awesome
Brandon Ryan how are paying
Brandon, I am currently a police officer in Northern VA and taking the same route as yourself.
How’s it going for you Brandon? I’m 22 leaving LE and am hopefully starting training in January
How did it work out?
If you're spending 18k on a private, you must not care too much about what you're spending.
Garret did it right.
Finish your written exams before getting in the plane. (I did self-study and didn't need much ground school, but if you do, Fly8MA is only $1.5k for lifetime access to everything.)
If you commit to flying at least 10 hours a week, you can have your commercial in 6 months.
You could buy something like an old ~1970 IFR capable C-150 or PA-28 for ~$30k. You can probably sell it when you're done for just about what you paid for it if you've only added 200-250 hrs of flight time over say 6 months. But let's say you end up selling it for $4k less than you paid for it. You can finance it for less than $300/month with $4,500 down. Do make sure you get a trustworthy mechanic who doesn't have a vested interest in the plane to do a thorough pre-purchase inspection.
For a C-152, fuel is about @25/hr
Oil changes and extra oil for top-ups can cost up to $5/hr
Tie-down spot up to $100/month
Insurance might cost you $800-1000/year as a student pilot
Let's say you fly the plane for 220 hours over 6 months, so the use of the plane will cost you about $12k including the $4k depreciation.
You'll need to rent higher performance planes to finish up your commercial/multi. Let's say 30 hours @ an average of $170/hr = ~$5k.
Add on maybe 60 hours of instructor time: $45/hr * 60 hrs = $2,700
And maybe $1,500 total for test fees.
And $1k for supplies.
So zero to commercial (SE/ME/Instrument) would add up to about $24k if you did it this way. Budget another few grand for extra maintenance, more dual time, more expensive rentals, or whatever, and you're up to near $30k.
For a private only, figure $6-10k.
Henrik Nylund 6 to 10k for a private? Have you priced this in today’s pilot shortage climate? 45/hr for an instructor? No way. Instructors here in CA start at 60/hr. Cheap and old cherokees/cessnas are 145/hr. Throw in a glime syllabus that most part 61 flight schools use and you’re starting at 15k. Want to go ifr? Get out another big loan.
@@friedclutch97 These numbers are real.
Some of the costs are somewhat location dependent. But there are lots of places where instructors charge $45/hr. A quick check online shows instructors in Oakland for $45/hr. Probably more of them at that rate in the central valley.
If your goal is to become a commercial pilot in 6 months and you currently live somewhere like Palo Alto, CA, you may wish to go somewhere more affordable for your flight training.
The main point is that if you're going to be flying a lot, it'll be a whole lot cheaper if you buy an older plane rather than rent.
Glad someone did the math on this lol thanks for that!
I've had four planes over the years. They dont depreciate one dime. Shop around and learn all you can. You have just as good of a chance of making $4000, maybe $8000. I found planes needing cosmetic work that I could do myself. I flew one over two years, one I sold in a couple of months without doing anything but painting the top of the tail cone with spray paint and made a little over $5000 on it. Never made less than $4000 on any of them. And that was in the nineties. I'm looking for another one to fly and resell now. They sure have went up though, more than doubled.
I kept getting distracted by the phantom shadow left behind by the microphone on the table that was edited out in post in all but one shot.
So thrilled to hear this story! Really shows that it’s never too late to evolve/nurture (new) dreams. I myself is 24 and currently finishing my bachelors degree in marketing before headed off to flight school. I will be doing the 2 year integrated ATPL program.
Best of luck to you!!
Military flight school?
Kirby civil :)
i’m just 14 but i have a love for aviation. i’m starting now so i’m ahead. i’m ready to become a pilot!
YOUR GONNA NEED TO SAVE ALOOOT OF MONEY. 👍
@@erickholguin8206 indeed
@@accuk you can join the military for 4 years get out and have the gi bill. Flight school will be 100% paid for.
I’m 36, burnt out from corporate sales...recently divorced, only 20k in savings. Flight school with ATP is 85k...got denied a loan, in need of a cosignor...it’s a long shot but I’m making the biggest sales pitch of my life to family members who might be able to help and cosign on that loan. wish me luck and pray for me 🙏🏽
How did it turn ?
How did it turn ?
Did you make it??
What happened?
What’s a good online school to start ground school? And how much is that usually?
I'm 35 and watching this video. Over last 3 years I managed to collect 25k and have a dream to fly. I think it worth to try.
Went to a mom and pop shop and spent 9k for my private pilot. Took 8 months taking my time with a full time job and part time college.
That's pretty awesome!!
thats awesome. Are you still flying?
@@picksellpaint I am but instrument training is going slow for me in terms of online ground school. Not too easy. In the mean time I'm building up cross country time. Florida weather isn't so great right now.
being a commercial pilot and getting to sit in the thumbnail United 737 is completely different...years for US mainline.
Yep.
You have to start somewhere
Well, I'm going to make this decision at 45. Yay or nay?
Honestly, yes. Go do you. you still have like 20 years to fly so go ahead
@@kenantheaviator8665 thanks for the honesty.
@PrePeyMad Flight Heard that, get after your dreams!!
FLY8MA.com Flight Training I’m going to do it. This video right here really solidifies the decision. His path was smart and cheaper. I’ll be based out of Orlando.
I’m 47 and just getting started - plenty of time, and I’m highly motivated to become a professional.
Thanks so much for making this video. Inspiring, and revealed some unique advises to keep training cost to a minimum.
Always happy to help! If just starting training, feel free to start with our free online ground school at fly8ma.com
@@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 Yes, I have just started with your ground school training. Great service, I must say. I am a prospective immigrant expecting to come to Canada this year. I have already started ground school, but will begin my practicals late this year. Thanks!!
@@jerrinjose142 Awesome, best of luck to you!!
@@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 Thank you!!
Well done for going for your dream Garret!!! And thanks for inspiring me even more, so refreshing to see someone go for their dreams regardless of age or financial circumstances 😀
We all deserve to reach for our dreams!
I thought I was too old to start, because I'm 24... I thought wrong.
2:06 time-traveling seaplane!
Gotta keep everyone guessing sometimes!
2 minutes 6 seconds the plane in the back...............wow!
i already spend 18k I still on my private pilot training :((((
Woah that's crazy How is that what plane are you flying and where
I also spent around 18k on my private pilot license at a private flight school. Flying a cessna 172.
@@brockisarcfan pfd mfd equipped aircraft?
@@alexfrancis3603 Nope just an old 1972 cessna with the mechanical instruments.
@@brockisarcfan Woah :( Are you going for your ifr rating?
Needed to see that this morning; I'm 33 and was thinking just that--am I too late? I started my private pilot ground school online in April, working full time, started flying dual 2-3x/week in June (summer weather being the factor). I'm out of ORL, which was an expensive choice, but I know that for me, proximity to the airport was important in getting this done. Just passed my first progress checks; most importantly, it's something I love. I'm aiming for CFI/CFII/MEI--I love to teach, I just hate classrooms!
Never too late if it's what you're passionate about! Best of luck to you!!
Actually, you are just in time .... for F-15s. 33 is the max cut off age for Air National Guard and air Force reserve. Go to bogidope.com and rush the squadrons like your life depends on it!
great inspiring story. Although I think luck has a good element in this, the entire game changes if the plane suddenly needs a 5000$ repair. or if he next annual costs you a few thousands, or if the CFI ditches (all of these happened to me). I'm not saying it's impossible just that it's a dice roll.
Can someone explain the magic disappearing and re-appearing sea plane at 2:07? XD
Killin’ it, dude!
Much appreciated!
how about that red plane that disappears the re-appears out of nowhere?
At 2:07 , where did that plane go? What?
I have no idea where it went...
this is the video I needed
What if your terrible at at math? I can do basic math but I can’t sit down and work out algebra problems by hand. I’m a good judge of distance and angles but I can’t even remember how to work out algebra on paper
With owning your own plane how much do you spend on fuel. I was thinking about buying my own plane and using it to reach my 1500 hours but wouldn’t that cost a lot? Thanks!
Love the video. I have 270tt right now and cannot get a job to kickstart this career, everyere saying get more hours. At $16 an hr in upstate NY it's even harder. If I buy a cheap plane to build flight hours and something goes wrong I would not be able to fix it for a long time plus the Bill's would still have to be paid. I'm also not too keen on the cfi thing as what if I do get the rating and cannot get a job. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Should be no trouble getting a CFI job these days.
Apply to the military and the reserve forces!
Jerome S
The other route AG flying course if you have good skills.
Learn to tow, either gliders or banners.. Most glider clubs /operations are always looking for tow pilots and they usually supply the plane and some will train. Great way to build time with lots of flight cycles (takeoffs and landings). Go to the Soaring Society of America website and to the "Where to Fly" link to find operations around the US.
Good interview John
Thanks Rob!!
If you're making $16 per hour as a flight attendant (flying 100 hours a month if you are REALLY hustling), you make $19,000 per year. I don't know how he could make $30K. Some of these numbers aren't adding up.
I believe it was $16 when he started not while he’s training
I see many posts of people going for commercial aviation jobs, but what scares me if "rolling the dice" on the HOPE people will not be loose their medical certifcate.
Great story and very encouraging.
Could u teach us in you tube how you fly commercial pilot and what requirement
We have many commercial courses on our website: learn.fly8ma.com/courses/commercial-pilot-asel-checkride-prep-cram-course/
2:07 what happened with that red plane tho???
You can be a dreamer , an optimistic, and an ambitious all you want but the real world is a whole different story.
Hi brother very nice and good job thanks but I want to know about what about job after completed C P L .job easily available or your department helped out for finding a job?thanks
No one noticed the plane disappearing at 2:07 ?
This is inspiring, I am 37 now..
Never too late!
Again I did not mean to I hope I did not offend anyone I'm old fashioned old school and I don't do social media occasionally pop on RUclips every now and then but thanks in advance
Congratulations man.
Why did you censor the handshake at 12:30
If you guys have an established life or a relationship,also consider a pilot schedule and wages
stealhty1 This is for those who want to restart their life. Divorce does that to you.
I didn't get. In which school did he take the pilot course?
fly8ma, other resources and instructors.
Do you have to have a high school diploma or ged to become a pilot??
I loved this... I am an Indian and I aspire to become a pilot, was looking for to write to you'll personally. Please let me know how that works
Hi Zina, we sent you an email with a course recommendation. Have a great day!
What’s the fastest or cheapest I should say way to reach 1500hrs before you can apply for atpl?? I don’t really wanna do the CPI thing cuz I dont really wanna teach and paying $200 for each hour to reach 1500 is an enormous amount of money and I don’t really wanna buy a plane. Any way I can maybe just do my CPL and build hours by working for some regional charter or be a corporate pilot? 🤔 any advice is appreciated!
Did you ever find out
Awesome story
Yeah because people have $50,000 laying around to go buy a C172
Exactly
The views on this speak volumes.
So I inherited a kitfox, any chance of pulling the same trick on an experimental?
im 25 and trying to decide bewteen attending UCLA during covid or investing in a commercial pilots license.... and im torn..
This is giving me hope although I'm older than Garrick 44. By FAA regulating the age you need to retire 67 atleast I won't commit suicide because I did not try
Sir, im only 17 and this video makes me feel way better
I just turned 50, and am starting now. Wish I'd of started at 39.
Never too late! Best of luck to ya
I just turned 50 and was wondering if it was too late to start from zero. How are you doing and do you have anything that might help me decide whether to jump in or not?
I'm 28, living in British Columbia and looking into school that takes 16 months to get your commercial pilots certification. Dors this seek too good to be true?
I m 38 . Thinking the same thing. Sharing ownership on a plane is interesting
Very interesting story.
Could you make the music any louder? My ears only bled a little bit.
Damn......that moment when the float-plane disappears into the ether and then reappears....shit don't get more real than that.
What companies in Alaska or elsewhere do you know who are hiring pilots with low flight hours? I currently have about 360 hrs with an Instrument and Commercial Rating.
There are occasionally Alaskan regional airlines that post recruitment ads in Flying or Plane and Pilot for low time pilots to apprentice as first officers. I'm looking around at a magazine right now and it's the first issue in forever that doesn't have an ad, but I've seen them in the past. Might try googling Alaskan airline hiring or just check out one of those magazines' websites to find them.
@@robertspeer6872 Thanks for the advice! I'll look into that.
I’ve already spent 15k on my private and I’m half way done
Half way done with your private?
David ouch!
Bryan Austyn Downing yes private pilot liscence, tough instructor, expects perfection from me but mostly my fault for being slow on theory and textbook work
@@David-qw2iv welp at least all the hours you have count no matter what. Total time is total time. Just need 100hrs PIC if you are pushing for a CPL.
Bryan Austyn Downing yeah your right, thank you and I have around 50 hours
Respect to Garret ☺️🙌
I will be 44 next month, I’ve been wondering if I’m to old
I'm 40 and I'm starting this year :)
Nice!!
Grad school is about 45k. You can work it off in some programs which kind of makes it free, but they take 2 years and doesn't guarantee a very high salary. Physical therapy is about 150k takes 3 years, eventually you can make 100k. The median income for commercial pilots is higher then a lot of other degrees, and costs less. Pfft I'm thinking the cost is worth it, also buying a plane doesn't sound unreasonable.
I’m 46 zero hours and still feel discouraged to become an airline pilot. What do you guys think?
If you can pass the exams (medical included), you’re golden bro
Iam 28. Just started learning private lic. Want to become commercial, like a b737 or 777.
When interviewing someone. Let them talk. I wanted to hear his story. Not yours.
Hold on this guy started at 38? He prob 41 now. He looks great for that age! Looks like he's 25
I am 27 right now
If I start at the age of 28
Can I become a commercial pilot in an airline at the age of 30?
i too wanna get cpl, can you help me out
What are the odds of getting a job as a commercial pilot though?
11:39 wait, wait, wait........six figure job with only being two years into commercial flying?
It's not much though. You can be a software engineer with no degree in 6 months and make 6 figure working from home.
Hi Jon,
Can a low time 65 yr old get a commercial pilot job?
This me I want to be pilot so bad
We need an update!!
Crazy pilot shortage in the United States !! It’s our time to make this happen 😮
SICK! This is my dream!
Go get after it!!
@@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 I want to pretty bad, but I don't have the means for paying for it. I am a father of 4 kids and working a full time job, just to put food on the table. Just not sure how I am going to make it happen. I'll keep dreaming... and living vicariously through all the RUclips pilots!
@@flyingclint589 I’m 45 and started private pilot ground school in 2019 and dropped then came back in 2021 and thinking about dropping again. I’m not sure if I’m being realistic with all this considering my age, zero hours, cost, experience and ultimate goal of becoming a cargo pilot. :-(
The title seems a bit misleading since not everyone is going to have access to funds to buy into a plane partnership, qualify for a huge 9k dollar grant to offset a cert or a hookup on a CFI to be available to you on demand and (from I gathered) zero cost. Don't get me wrong, super inspiring story and good on this dude for everything he's accomplished so far. But the title of the video makes it sound like this is something anyone can do with no experience and as I just stated, this isn't true at all without a huge amount of fortune.