Kin | Doctor Reacts to The Last of Us | Season 1 Episode 6
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Tommy's face when Maria said, "that's exactly what it is, we're communists," was so hilarious.
Maria is absolute heaven!
Ordinarily you'd want to leave the impaling object in, yes. However that getaway high-speed horseride would have turned that shiv into a chainsaw and Joel would have ended up with far more internal damage. Love these reactions!
Always try to shine a light on this topic. If you can call 911 or have access to a functioning hospital, leave that thing in. Are you about to gallop away from attackers? That splintered stick of wood might chew you up.
Totally agreed! I think I paused before they made their getaway. Someone else mentioned an option could have been to "get rid of" the raiders and then manage the stab in a more controlled fashion... But... split second decisions!!!! 😊
Thank you! I’ve watched a lot of reactions to that scene, and the reaction is always the same. While it’s great that it’s become common knowledge to leave intrusive objects in in most cases, you have to stop and ask yourself if required movement in a given situation will make the wound worse.
At keast they changed it from rusty steel rebar. As bad as the infection risk from that shiv / piece of baseball bat / whatever is, the infection risk from rebar would've been even worse.
Joel has a well earned reputation as being completely ruthless. He did a lot of horrific things. He isn't aware of his reputation, but many are, both Marlene and Tommy even feared him. I don't recall it ever being revealed what he had exactly done, but his reputation is well known.
Totally agree. Marlene says to Joel and Tess “I both know what you’re capable of-for better or worse.” Tess: “Joel and I aren’t good people” and “All the shit we did… .” And Tommy and Maria here discuss Joel’s past: from the get go, we know he was dangerous back then, and still has that in him.
I think he's pretty aware of it in Boston. I think he may be taken aback at the idea that Tommy would have bad-mouthed him to Maria. The shifting family definitions of that scene! The "us" and the "them". Joel's "them" was, post-Tess, just him and Tommy but he was letting Ellie in. When he wanted a family talk he didn't ask Ellie to leave with Maria. Then he saw that he may no longer be in Tommy's "them" but his defensive mechanisms are desperately trying to suppress acknowledging Ellie.
@Laurel Ellenstreet I look at it like Commander Shepard's reputation in Mass Effect 3 when she was talking to Admiral Hackett and even in the open sequence of Mass Effect 1. She knows she has a reputation, but it's something she doesn't think about, she's just trying to survive, moment to moment. But much of the settled galaxy knew her reputation, and many knew it was well earned and those that didn't ended poorly.
Joel is just trying to survive in a world gone to shit, he doesn't have time to think about it. When he and Tess took on Ellie, neither he and Tess even considered their reputation, it was just the next thing they had to do to survive.
My reputation is a mixed bag as well. To some I'm a hero, to other's a villain, to some a coward, to others fearless, to some a pathetic shell of a human being, to others a decent human being, to others a leg breaking mofo, to some one who helped them through their dark times when everyone else had tucked tail or refused to lift a finger. They're all right, at one time or another in my life. I know of my reputation, I just don't think about it in any given moment, got too much else on my mind.
I love how they chose to show how vulnerable Joel is-it’s refreshing to see! It’s easy to fall in love with Pedro Pascal! 😉🥰
I totally agree!!! So many emotions!
The director noted he cried every take, to help Gabriel Luna react, whether the cameras were on him or not. And the dream thing was his idea.
@@Laurel_Ellenstreet god-he’s such an amazing actor! They both are-I hope both of them get their so-deserved Emmy noms!
@@kaleyrose47 The entertainment news that crosses my feed thinks Pedro is either the frontrunner or 2nd to the Succession guy to win lead actor, drama. Gabriel Luna is mentioned as a nomination threat for guest actor, drama along with Lamar Johnson (Henry) with Nick Offerman (Bill) the inevitable winner and Murray Bartlett (Frank) an inevitable nominee. That category is crowded. Bella is considered an inevitable nominee, but not frontrunner, in the lead actress category (they're actually nonbinary). Melanie Lynskey (Kathleen) is supposed to be nominated as guest actress here and lead actress for Yellowjackets. Anna Torv (Tess), Storm Reid (Riley) and Christine Hakim (Indonesian scientist Dr. Ratna) are mentioned as nomination threats. There are apparently no supporting players - not sure what makes a guest vs. supporting performance. Bill and Frank's episode was submitted for writing,
That's real family getting together... Hugs and kisses then next minute fighting and arguing! 😂😂❤ In the end they Luv each other!💛
The cave scenes are so subtly brilliant! Joel has a pattern (both versions of him) of pushing back when his defenses are triggered ("So it's WE?") and then later, especially seeing the emotional impact, quietly changing his behavior ("sheep farm on the moon", uniting their future visions) without openly acknowledging that he was being distancing. Foreshadowing his later, bigger changing of his mind. The cave scene also shows that the more the bond grows, the more they are misaligned (Ellie wants to make Joel proud, he wants to protect).
He probably does both subconsciously. His dad instincts are just too strong, but the closer he gets to her the more his PTSD gets in the way.
@@Dark__Thoughts Agree, it's just automatic response. With maybe some plausible deniability as trash talk, which is part of their love language. But then she gets emotionally vulnerable and he needs to reassure her.
Mixed feelings about Tommy, but intrigued by what must being going on in his head when Joel a) shows up out of nowhere b) with a unknown girl Sarah's age c) in full-blown dad mode in every way but admitting it. The smile he gave Joel at "mind our manners" was familiar from the kitchen in Austin. I think he may have seen that and overestimated Joel's readiness for a new child in the family.
The ending song is a cover (by Jessica Mazin, daughter of the showrunner Craid Mazin) of Depeche Mode's "Never Let Me Down Again" - the same song that plays (in its original 1987 version) on Tess/Joel's apartment radio at the end of the pilot, and turns out to be Bill and Frank's death notice. On the podcast Mazin talked about shifting to an Ellie-centric narrative so this cover in a very different style.
One of the worst parts of a panic attack is the feedback loop that can happen. You are having a panic attack but then you begin to panic that it might be a heart attack, and it makes the panic attack worse.
A great reaction/breakdown of the episode. Wanted to mention I love the touch of having Ellie obsessed with space, that was put into the show by the showrunners because Ashley Johnson (voice/mocap of Ellie in the game) is a huge space nerd.
The confrontation in the bedroom was one of the most important scenes they had to recreate from the game, and they nailed it perfectly. Almost completely 1-for-1 copy, while still feeling natural for Bella and Pedro.
The song at the end was a cover of the Depeche Mode song from the end of episode 1 (Never Let me Down Again), sung by show runner Craig Maizin's daughter.
Jackson was filmed in the town of Canmore here, and is an excellent place to visit. Only problem is that it was already busy with tourists and now even more so with the influx of Last of Us fans.
The hair is awesome, you are totally rocking it!
Thank you so much!! ❤️ Love these tidbits!!!
In the game Joel actually falls off a balcony and gets impaled on a piece of rebar. Ellie had to pull him off it. Can't exactly leave that in, lol.
The movie they were watching was The Goodbye Girl, which also deals with abandonment issues.
Joel: attempting to pull out dagger
Jess: nonononononono
Lovely reaction as usual. OK Let's cover what Ellie misses about The Goodbye Girl. The mother and daughter assume the boyfriend is ditching them because he got the Bertolucci movie. But then he calls from a payphone to ask that his guitar (a hobby he shares with Joel) be restrung for when he comes home. I remember back in the day, Quinn Cummings running to verify that he left the guitar and jubilantly screaming "He IS coming back!!!"
Thank you!! ❤️ I'm loving all the tidbits!!
Love Joel looking back at Ellie while hugging Tommy, like checking in that they found him (and not noticing her concerns).
I was riding horses back in the day and I can tell you, abdominal movements while riding a horse are huge. So if he'd ride that horse implaled by that wooden stick, he would die of pain and much more internal trauma than he received just by the impaling itself.
Definitely the internal trauma from the splintery stick - bad!! In a more controlled situation - definitely don't pull out the stick. But in this field situation, it does make sense, I'll agree with that 😊
1. As the youngest of siblings i like to point out that noone, including tommy, asked joel to go look for him. It was a very over bearing big brother move.
2. Ellie finds a box of tampons in the basement with the infected dude in ep 3.
Pedro and Bella both had some fantastic scenes there. The directors daughter did the Depeche Mode remix there at the end. She's really good.
Something to consider when Joel pulls out the part of the baseball bat that stabbed him is that in the GAME he actually falls onto a piece of rebar that skewers him. The reason I believe they made him pull it out in the show is because in the game they have to pull him off of the rebar rubble and there is no choice to leave it in as they have to escape.
Oof! Ouch!! I feel like I should play the game too lol!
@@JessTheMD Oh you said it out loud... now all of us are going to want to see you play the game on your channel and yes I am one of those :)
OK last comment. I NEED MORE MARLON AND FLORENCE! They need to trade with the people of Jackson in a future season. What I really want is whatever this universe's version of a podcast of YT reaction series is. Or an audio commentary track by Graham Greene and Elaine Miles, in character.
Would not pulling the splinter out matter anyway since Joel's not able to get any immediate medical treatment? I'm no doctor but I thought in cases like these, you were supposed to be laying down still and wait for an ambulance, which wasn't at all possible for Joel. The raiders were after them and he needed to get on a horse. Not to mention how bumpy the ride would be which would make the splinter damage other organs if Joel didn't pull it out.
Definitely true! I think I paused before they had to get on the horse... Certainly in more controlled situations - leave the big spiky thing in and don't move much! 😉
It's hard to open up when you don't feel safe. Joel hasn't had a place to feel safe for decades, and he gets to Jackson, and he starts to feel safe, and doesn't know how to handle it. That's still a terrifying prospect. You don't feel safe to be vulnerable, then you find a safe place and you don't feel safe being vulnerable. It's a terrifying irony.
Yes, Sarah' didn't had that potty mouth but she and Ellie are quite similar in that they're pretty smart and cheeky, but also kind. Ellie reminds Joel a lot about Sarah, and the closer he grows to her, the more his PTSD & fear of losing her flares up. He bottled it all up for 20 years and secluded himself from everyone, and now he's forced to actually process his trauma, which is something he blames more himself for, rather than whoever ordered the soldier to do what he then had to do.
It was the bat that broke on the tree. Joel rammed it kinda into him by himself when he tackled the guy. And not to berate a doctor, but I don't think it's that good to leave a splintered or sharp object inside of you when you're riding wildly on a horse & living in a post apocalyptic world in the middle of nowhere. At that point I think the risk of damaging internal organs is worse than the bleeding. If you're lucky and didn't require internal stitching then you really want to make sure it stays that way when there's no way to operate you.
In the game this scene is way worse and more unrealistic btw, as Joel gets tackled by a raider on the inside balcony of the science building and ends up falling onto a pile of rubble, which has a piece of rebar sticking out, which completely impales him. (YT ID: /watch?v=CwYZdSUtMDM)
Next episode's "Left Behind". :(
Sarah and Ellie have in common a refusal to let Joel get away with anything. Love them both, as does Joel.
Definitely a difficult situation in the field! Agreed. Riding the horse means he should get rid of the splintery thing so it doesn't chew up his insides. Totally agreed and a really rough situation!
Remember the dog Mercy from episode 1. He could feel infections. The same thing happens here with Ellie, but the dog doesn't attack her. Ellie was diagnosed with a detector as infected by the red light in episode 1. The little boy from episode 2 was also tested with red and killed instantly. Now imagine how many potential immune people were killed because of this detector because there was no dog. A combination of both would therefore be better and might have led to the discovery of immunes. Instead, everyone was killed. If you think about that, everything becomes much darker.
In an apocalypse you pull out the stick and hope for the best, because there are no doctors and no help, only people who want to kill you and your stuff. If Joel leaves the stick stuck, he can't even get up on his horse and he can't ride it at all. Besides, the longer it gets stuck, the more likely it is to get infected with something, right?
In our world, of course, you have to leave everything in, but there are also doctors and hospitals.
You make an excellent point! Makes me wonder! Dogs *should* have been used for truly infected diagnosis. That would have been cool, but maybe made for a less intense story line. Though they might’ve found a cure/vaccine sooner 😉
Someone else had mentioned the idea of “getting rid of” those raiders (well, David’s hunter party) entirely, and then managing Joel in a bit more of a controlled environment. Though I don’t think Ellie was capable of offing 3 big dudes at that point, and Joel was (obviously) injured. The spike would totally have macerated his insides while they rode the horse; but at the same time, I’m shocked he didn’t totally bleed out from that wound. Sucky sucky situation… but he did survive (miraculously lol) so that’s great 😝
I don't know if anyone answered this for you, but they did address the issue of Ellie's feminine products one of the early episodes when she found some pads or tampons a convenience store they were looting
There's some debate about the benefits of removing the splintered bat handle in this scenario. In normal circumstances you'd be absolutely right about leaving it in there, but climbing on to a horse and then needing to gallop away changes things.
There's an argument it would splinter and shred his insides, so it's possible he might have actually done less damage to himself by taking it out before hand. He's pretty much screwed either way in this environment though.
You have an excellent point! Definitely I made that comment about not taking it out BEFORE they got on the horse! 😉 field medicine is definitely different than if he were to be loaded up in an ambulance quickly! 😉
@@JessTheMD Having fishing line and hook to stitch wounds would be a good thing to have and sheet of plastic act as a water proof seal (boil them in water or soak in booze)
Aka a fighting chance.....
@@JessTheMD Slight tangent....In that world I would be looking at making that Uni into a town...
Also looking for abandoned buses to get running again(on animal fat, old oil, hydrogen, methane ) to use as a power source(electricity/heat) for the new town but those buses would have rotten tires, to solve that problem I would get a black smith to create some wheels to get said buses mobile and use 8 horses to pull it back to town...
Thanks for keeping these going! Love the reaction videos! 👍👍👍
Thank you!! Next one coming up on Monday! ❤️
I LITERALLY went to the er 4 summers ago after thinking I had a heart attack at 43. Two hours later I was getting a sertraline scrip from my gen doc and starting the process of cutting caffeine from my diet. Anxiety man....
Anxiety is no joke!!! I hope you’re feeling better now ❤️🙏
I had an esophageal spasm that scared the hell out of me, thought it was a heart attack at first. Was alone, in the truck, in an empty lot. The fear faded fast though, when I started assessing the situation. No arm pain, though my chest hurt, my breathing was fine and everything else felt fine.
I don't remember if they show this in the prologue of the show, but anti-anxiety meds are shown in Game Joel's house in Austin.
I love your analysis! kiss from Brazil!
Thank you!!
Ok! So, first I want to congradulate you on the sheer quality of editing you have for such a small channel that started less than a year ago. I found your videos through a reaction video to House M.D. Second, I'm so happy someone took on this show and dissect it on a more mental health level as well as the realism, or lack-there-of in this show. I love your work and you have gained a new subscriber. I look forward to seeing the rest of the show, and if you take requests, anything else horror related would be fun to see you tackle, but I'd love to see your take on a show like Dexter.
Thirdly, (almost forgot) I love the new haircut. You pull it off remarkably. Right makeup and right face shape for it to look perfect. 10/10 hair.
Omg you're so sweet!! ❤️ Thank you so very much!!! I do all of my own video editing these days (on the long form content), so I really appreciate that feedback! Thank you! I'm continuing to work through the next episodes. We've been in the process of a move, so I've gotten a bit behind. Haven't been able to get the studio set up yet, so I'm unfortunately not going to have a video up next week, but I'm working hard to get things moving and back on track 😊
@@JessTheMD Thanks for the reply. I look forward to seeing your studio setup and hearing you speak more on zombies and the like. Keep it up, and again, great good work.
Thank you so much! And Dexter is a great idea 😊 I’ll add it to my list!
Another great reaction. One small counterpoint to the advice about Joel's stab wound, it there was no way to stabilize it before trying to escape on horseback. Given the jaggedness of the broken bat, could there be more damage caused from riding on a horse with that still in the wound? Just asking for a friend... 🙂(Joel)
Yeah, that's a tough call. Always leave it in ...providing you can immobilise the cas and get em to hospital in a stable state, but that isn't happening here. There are no hospitals and no doctors, Joel aint going nowhere and that stick has to come out one way or the other. Bouncing around on a horse with a lump of jagged wood inside you, might well do more harm that pulling it. Certainly if you just leave it there, he will die. So circumstances here suggest pulling it and hoping for the best, with an understanding that he's probably gonna die, versus definitely gonna die if you leave it in. Not a good choice.
A better choice would have been to shoot the other 3 men, then stay at the university and try fixing Joel up there where there is equipment, resources and maybe even antibiotics and you could pull the bat out under reasonably controlled conditions.
@@Martyntd5 I honestly had never thought about that 3rd option. It also seems that the raiders were also only armed with hand to hand weapons, so shooting them all would have been a much easier task. Good call.
Completely agreed! In a field medicine situation with them having to be on the move on a horse after, yes it totally makes sense to take it out because of the damage it can do with it moving around in there. Ideally - you don’t take it out, you stabilize it and then get emergency medical care…. But these circumstances are certainly different! I like your third idea of leaving it in, getting rid of the guys coming to kill them and then figure out plans for next steps! 😊
@@JessTheMD There are no perfect solutions here, but that seems to offer the best chances. In the game the raider are far greater in number and armed. Joel wrestles with one of them and falls off a balcony and gets impaled on a piece of rebar. As the rebar is fixed to a big lump of concrete and they are outnumbered, Joel has no choice but to pull himself off the steel bar and get on the horse.
BTW, where you been girl?
😘😘😘😘 Lookin great Jess! The most beautiful doctor I've ever seen!
Haha thank you!! ❤️
cliffhanger with a sad song,
Love the hair, it gives me Alex Chem from Life is Strange: True Colors vibs.
Haha thank you!! I've grown to love it now! Took a little bit because I was so not expecting to have such short hair then 😝
I really liked Tommy in this episode. It'll be nice to see more of him in season 2.
7:59 The Brothers Miller. I want so badly to see a show/game about Joel & Tommy from after Sarah's Murder until Tommy leaves the Fireflies. 8:44 Blink and you might miss it, In episode 4 Joel tells Ellie "no your Cargo". Here Joel is at least subconsciously including Ellie into the Family Umbrella of him and Tommy. 12:43 Not in this clip but the memorial is telling Kevin was only 3 years old and was killed 2 days after Sarah's Murder.
8:44 - TOTALLY! I do love that ❤️
The memorial also confirms Sarah was 14 when she died, Ellie's current age. By the end of KC day 1, Ellie's at least "precious cargo" and on the way out of KC she's "you're not cargo but I'm going to suppress this realization." The two Joel actors have different comments on when Joel first cares personally about Ellie. We see TV Joel show concern for her well-being early but, this could be just the automatic in loco parentis mode of an experienced parent around other people's kids. Pedro says the personal bond starts when Ellie calls Joel out at the start of episode 3, saying he and Tess chose to get involved for their own reasons, and he doesn't get to blame her. Joel then realizes, she's right, I'm being an AH and I don't have to be that guy. Troy Baker says his Joel cares from the minute he sees her but of course must suppress the frightening realization that he's still a dad, those instincts aren't gone.
Looking forward to the next episode. You will need to explain where and how much penicillin ought to be given if we find ourselves in Ellie's predicament of a world without doctors.
At least in our non apocalyptic time it's usually printed on the bottle.
Excited to see the next episode! ❤️
Everyone always says Joel shouldn't have removed the object from his wound. Of course that would be true in a normal situation, but it's not as if Ellie could call 911 and wait for Joel to be transported to the local trauma center for a CT scan and surgery. They had no medical care available and no way of removing it in a controlled environment. If it was such that he was going to die from it being removed, he was going to die anyway..
You make an excellent point! Someone else commented that another option would have been *getting rid of* the guys that were coming after them, and then having a bit more of a controlled environment and no getting on the horse immediately. So hard to make those split second decisions though!!!
@@JessTheMD If Joel left it in, and went back towards Tommys, a 3ish day ride, how much more damage would it do moving around
During a time like this, Women would be in the greatest danger, predators like The Infected can smell blood, and women on their periods would be targets if they didn't have access to the proper supplies.
Ellie found some tampons or pads back in ep 3, but they probably are long gone by this episode
Oh good point! I forgot about that! Thanks 😊
Probably. I'm not sure how much time has passed. She's only 14, so she could still be having irregular periods. Chronic stress can make them irregular too. If she has light flow, a short period, and doesn't have one every month, a single bix could last a long time.
@@deeanna8448 3 months and a couple of days have passed since that trip to Cumberland Farms on the way to Bill and Frank's house.
@@deeanna8448 They also experience food scarcity from time to time, likely in the QZ and for sure on a road trip for months. This combined with a pretty strenuous daily routine may keep it at bay for awhile. But I would have loved for her to use some tampons to stop Joel's bleeding.
Actually, the part of the bat that Joel was stabbed with, would have been pretty clean, considering it was broken off only a second before and was from the inside of the bat.
I would argue that although it’s not necessarily visibly soiled, it’s still not *clean* in the sterile/surgical sense of the word. It’s still not clean enough to not cause an intraabdominal infection 😉
@@JessTheMD ... The inside of a solid piece of wood should be sterile, at least more sterile than a cleaned knife in a sheath cover, though you could argue that it might have been contaminated when it broke off, and the handle is not sterile of cause.
Well Ellie did find a box of tampons or something in the third episode.
Great point! Forgot about that 😊 Thanks for the reminder!!
As per yer question about tampons review episode 3
Yeah dont push that sarah button
Seriously… it’s a VERY touchy spot for him 😓
Vlove your hair🥰
Thank you!! 😍😍😍
Three episodes left.
Good God you cut your hair short .. that is a bold move 😳
Ha! It was not my plan. I got a haircut and the person who did it royally screwed it up, so I had to get it fixed, and getting it fixed meant shorter. 🤷🏻♀️ My hair is now at the length I WANTED it last May, and I’m still a little salty about it 😅😅😅
@@JessTheMD Well you look mighty fine now so I was wrong to worry ☺️
Joel removed that thing from his body because he had to ride a horse
Agreed. I think I paused before they had to get on the horse. Definitely it would be a bad idea to ride a horse with that jagged splintery thing in his abdomen 😉 Totally agree 😊
I wonder if she can still infect others. I wouldn't be sharing a drink
Haha solid point. I don’t think she can do the infected fungal kiss thing? Though I guess I don’t know that for sure. It apparently still is growing in her brain?? (According to the explanation in Ep9 lol)
I think Joel removed it because it is risky riding a horse with that inside of you 🙂
Yes totally! There are some other comments about another option being to "get rid of" the raiders and then manage the stab wound in a more controlled manner/environment. But these are split second decisions in a really high stakes environment, so it make sense 😊
13:52 Maybe I am being cynical but her telling Ellie "The only people who can betray us are the ones we trust" is along the line of Smeagle telling Frodo that Sam wants the ring. This one has been on the attack of Joel stating "There are clearly things your don't know about him". She has been intent on planting seeds of distrust in Ellie about Joel.
Yet she is ultimately right. Joel betrays Ellie's trust by lying to her. Lying to her is a betrayal. Maria is absolutely correct, unfortunately.
@@Dave3Dguy no she wasn't correct at all.
Tommy has probably processed some stuff with Maria and may be an unreliable narrator to her. But she first makes the pointed comment about reputation before the relationship is known. And it makes sense to try to get a feel for Ellie's safety by checking in with Eliie. But she could have done it a lot more diplomatically, and probably gotten a better dialogue going instead of Ellie immediately seeing her as antagonistic. Even saying "I'd check in with anyone in your situation to make sure they feel safe, and know they have options. it's nothing personal."
I want so bad for you to react to some Red Dead Redemption 2 Gameplay or even just play the game yourself and give your doctor insight to the accuracy of certain things lol
I’ll have to check this out!! 😊 thanks!!
Your English is good 😮
Thank you 😊
Hello, how's it going?
Hi! Great! How are you? 😊
18:27. I think you give him too much a pass in this situation, because of his trauma from twenty and a half years ago. He was in the wrong. Plain and simple!🌼☘️
Just one addition to what others have said. Tommy exaggerates aka lies to make himself look better to Maria and others such as when he says he can shoot and kill infected at a ridiculous range with his rifle. From what we have also seen of the brothers so far - Tommy killed first (the soldier who shot Sarah without any warning) and he was in Desert Storm. He also convinced Joel to join the group that quite definitely sounds like raiders going up to Boston from Austin.
Tommy is not a good guy in contrast to Joel at all.
My comments are based on the series not the video game that apparently frames Joel as a much more ruthless man. For example I doubt game Joel would offer an option to the sniper in Kansas City to just put down his gun and leave.
This dichotomy is a source of many disagreements in the comments.