Flatwork exercises for horses - The green horse.
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- Flatwork exercises for horses - The green horse. In this video, I show you a complete training session for my young/green horse. This is the beginning of how to get your horse on the bit. It begins by getting your horse forward and he then takes the contact. There are many exercises to get your horse on the bit but if your horse won't go forward you have no hope of working out how to get your horse on the bit without pulling on his mouth. It's not about keeping the horses head down instead, it is about getting your horse forward and accepting the contact he offers. Then you can start to ask him to "round" his frame. If you pull on his mouth you are going to have a horse that sits "behind" the contact and you never have a true connection.
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Thank you for watching. I hope this helps you to understand how a green horse learns to find his balance and then the contact/connection in the early days of his training.
Not sure if this is a fair tip, but giving it a shot. I see you seem to be struggling with concentrating on the horse + talking to the camera at the same time. I think that it would make a big difference if you could maybe just record yourself doing the work (without talking) and, later on, watch that video and voice record yourself explaining what you were doing in it. Then you just edit the explaining audio over the video.
You wouldn't be getting out of breath, would be a lot more focused in the horse you're working with, the audio probably wouldn't crackle as you go here or there in the paddock...
The video is great, though! This is just an idea for if you ever consider trying on future ones, to improve your content's quality :)
You are a very open honest and humbled teacher. It helps me bc when I’m working our green horses, my mind sometimes focuses on what I’ve done wrong. You make it easy to accept it and continue
I think everyone does Karen. Just keep reminding yourself that we are all doing the best we can in the moment including our horses 💕
I’m so glad I found your channel. You ride real horses. I appreciate that you present it real. It’s very helpful to see you ride and deal with the bucks and helping him through it without giving into it. Bravo .
You are so welcome!
What a wonderful video! I recently started my young horse under saddle and I’ve found it really hard to find good training content for those first few weeks/months of riding. This makes me excited for my next ride!
Thank you Jen. 😊
Amazing rider
Love how your giving him trust and confidence
He’s such a good boy, he’s trying. Beautiful
He is a beautiful boy 🥰
Loved seeing you ride a green Horse! Definitely helps me to try and fix problems at home!!
Thank you! So helpful to see actual green horses doing actual green horse things. And how to work through them, and how long the rider has to stick with it to see actual results.
I'm glad you found it helpful 🙂
Oh lord how wonderful to watch a traning video of the "non-perfect" part of the leraning process. I do not learn from the "perfect picture" since that is not my experience at home traning my horse. Thank you for a honest and humble way of teaching!
I too hate watching perfect videos because my training sessions never go like that either.
I love that you recorded all this footage that we can all enjoy & reflect on.
What a good boy!💛
I actually have his entire journey being started under saddle on video. He was such a good boy 💗
@@BasicHorseTraining That’s awesome!
You put out some really great horses 😊
You’re an amazing rider,Josie,and so gentle and considerate with your horses it’s lovely to watch
Thank you so much, you are very kind 🙂
What a beautiful Rebell! Even after 5 weeks of training he has been so generous to show his potential to you! Love from Germany, C.
Best video I,ve seen of how to work through
Thank you 🙏
You are a phenomenal rider!! Thank you so much!
That is very kind of you to say Talia. Thank you 😊
Thank you for showing an actually green horse that is far from perfect. Really useful!
I’m glad it helped Elise 😊
Beautiful horse he moves so nicely!
Beautiful!!! Thank you!!!!
Glad you like it!
I love this!
Thank you
Your vids are wonderful🙏thanks so much
Excellent video. Thank you.
I’m glad you liked it 😊
I am so glad I found this video. Fantastically explained and has really helped ❤
Fantastic to watch him as a green horse. Luv luv luv your videos. So informative. Thankyou Josie
Thank you 🙂
Excellent. You must be very fit!!
Love your videos. I like that you're showing this on a not so perfectly going horse, as our horses often are, so it's very instructive to see how you/we can ride through those moments. Thank you!
Your horse is a nice mover love the floating trot when he goes forward. I am retraining my new 3 yo OTTB and he is able to curl his neck and lean on the bit so I know to push him forward which is everything. I like how light you are in the hands as they need to seek the contact.
Thanks.for the great explanation. Best video yet
Glad it was helpful!
I love your videos so much I think I’ve binged watched all of them in one night. Looking forward to more content. Thank you!
😂😂. I’m glad you are enjoying them Natalie ☺️
Awesome video shows what can be aceived with time, empathy and a goal
Thank you Tanya 🙂
Hi Josie, great video, very helpful and in language I can understand. I love also that you point out where you make mistakes and how this affects the horses way of going. It helps to see that you don’t need to be perfect to achieve your goals. A very honest video, thanks very much
an
bsolutely gorgeous horse
Thank you 😊
Great video. Very useful to retrain horses that avoid the bit too.
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Awesome work! Learned a lot and I really liked to hear when you think you did a mistake, which means I can watch for that as well when I ride a youngster!
I’m glad it helped you Emily 🙂.
I am learning a lot from your videos and like your teaching style. I am a ridgeback mom and love your pup too!
Ridgies are the best 💗
This video is so good to see! My mare is 12 but only backed last year, very sensitive and so like Rebel in this video… hoping she eventually becomes as good!
You got this Faye. 👏👏
Love what U achieved with Rebel by the competition part of the video Josie. And great to see the progress from the earlier training. Trying to emulate some of your strategies to progress my own mare. Quite difficult to introduce dressage concepts to a mature horse who has always been a pleasure riding horse without contact!! Thankyou for sharing yr tips, skills & techniques. 🐴🙏
You are very welcome Benita. Let me know if you have any questions.🙂
This is such a great video. I've got a green horse and he is very sensitive so it was really good to see how you train your boy. Thankyou. I have learnt so much. Great channel.
Thank you so much 😊
Thanks so much for the insight into a young, green horse. I have a 3 1/2 yr old OTTB who is sweet but knows nothing. It has given me the confidence to keep on with her training.
I am glad it helped Sharon. 😊
Thank you so much for this! I’m at this stage with my greenie and I tend to want to slow him down when he moves “too” forward. This was a good reminder for myself, and helpful for bringing my horse along further!
You're so welcome!
this was great thanks for sharing the sausage making
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Wow, that's exactly what I wanted to see. I have 3yo gelding and we are just starting to work under the saddle and I see here similar behaviour and issues I have with him. Thank you
You are welcome. I have two new videos out featuring a green horse.
ruclips.net/video/twhB7DnN02Q/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/BzUyEu6xw-8/видео.html
😂😂😂 The dogs in heaven eating dog poop out there😂😂😂 Reminds me of something I would say and think about while riding !! Love your videos !! Very informative !!
So beautiful, even though he is green his gait is lovely
Thank you 😊
Great video for working with a green horse. He has a lot of talent and potential! What's with the tack straps hanging down slapping at his legs?
Loving your explanations, I showed this bid to a friend and they thought I was showing them one of my tests 🤣🤣, she said you and I ride exactly the same , she said she really thought it was me , I felt brilliant too , to be compared to such an excellent rider 🥰🥰🥰
Thank you lulee 🤗
Thank you. Awesome video. Gives me hope that I can get my young OTTB going well.
You can do it I have no doubt 😀 . If you have any questions please ask and I will do my best to help you. You might like to download my free guide - the link is in the video description. It will help you with thinking about how you train your horse. Thank you for taking the time to comment I really appreciate it.
How is your horse going rhonda0173?
@@BasicHorseTraining He is going good. But unfortunately I haven’t been able to be consistent with his training. He is smart though so I have no doubt that he will continue to improve. I’m the one holding him back. Just need more time and a bit more motivation. Thank you for asking.
You’re not holding him back your are taking the time it takes. Sometimes we need to do life as well and working with horses from a stressed place is no enjoyment for them. Take it from me I’ve been there. Enjoy your time with him do what you can when you can 😊
Excellent - loved this! I'm pretty sure i've said so before as well!
After how many rides did you begin to compete on him? The progress from ride 20 to comp #3 is fabulous. You're obviously a very accomplished trainer & rider. Lovely to see & provides some inspiration for me! Tanks Josie ❤️🐎👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🙏
Thank you for this. I have green horses that are all over the place
You are welcome!
This video is a favourite, im working an OTT at the moment, ridden mostly by kids and green in the arena. Forward focus will be our aim in our next sessions. Watching the process and progress in this video was very handy! Thank you! Rebel comes along so nicely
I have just added two new videos riding green horses. I think you might like to watch them too
ruclips.net/video/X6tGTDWwc34/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/BzUyEu6xw-8/видео.html
@@BasicHorseTraining thank you!! I appreciate you letting me know as well, that’s great!!
Love your videos Josie! Your very kind to your horse and patient in his learning, I love that! You’ve demystified knowledge in working horses & what’s good for them. Is the dressage test is at Strathalbyn? Lovely relaxed test! 🥰
You are obviously a South Australian 😆. Yes that it Strath Polo Grounds. Thank you for your kind comments.
Thanks for this. It explains so much. I started a half friesian brood mare who had never been ridden etc. She was 10 when I started her. 12 this year and I still consider her quite green. She’s so quiet though. I’m actually glad to have started an older horse. She has been lovely. This is very helpful. My mare bucks into canter. I think she feels she needs to leap into it as she isn’t sure she can transition easily with the weight of me.
Hello 🙂, If one of my green horses was doing that I would do some lunge work with the trot to canter transition so that they can work through it without me on their back and then when that was good I would transition to under saddle. You have obviously done a wonderful job starting an older horse ... well done. It is so rewarding starting horses isn't it!
@@BasicHorseTraining Thanks so much. I’m loving your videos. I will go back to the lunge and refine the transition 👍🏻👍🏻❤️
So this is the EXACT situation I have with my 11 yr old arab mare. She learned things extremely quickly and the smallest pressure change from saddle, and she responds. I feel she would be wonderful at dressage! However, I would like to see a step by step process more often of green horses such as rebel that are shown from the ground and then saddle. Many of your videos have been my guide in this department. BUT, could you please indicate the cue you are giving from the saddle when you ask for each yield, move, ect? Yes, we must look inline with the horse and not show the cues we give with out legs and feet but could you please exaggerate them so I can see better? This would be the icing on the cake!
That was AWESOME!! You're so brave... Lol
Not brave Jess ... I just have a plan and I stick with it 🙂
What an amazing video! So helpful. What was the time difference between the training ride in the beginning and the show at the end? He improved so much
To be honest Anna I’m not 100% sure but I would think somewhere around 18 months. I don’t compete often as I live a long way from anywhere that holds competitions. 🙂. Thank you for taking the time to comment.
Thanks so much for the great instruction - Rebel is amazing ( due to you’re good riding ) and very pretty :)
Thank you Lizzie that's very kind of you.
Such a beautiful horse! Fantastic video, i love that you talk to him all the time I do this and thought that maybe i talk to much, but now i think i could talk more :) Quick question how many rides were you at when you showed him? He looks fantastic.
This was quite a few years ago now and I'm sorry but I don't remember
oooh I can relate to this 😅
So, I’m learning to ride English on a 15 yr. old Appaloosa. I was told that he was trained in English riding. (He is trained in Western, & shows in competition) After watching this video, I just realized that he is as green as Rebel was, in your early training days. No wonder we’re having a rough go of it. I’m asking him things that he has no idea about. (Which I assumed he knew…) Thank you for this video, /training session, it really shed some light on the status of the horse I’m on. He canNOT do circles….lol. I can reverse direction, but I have to swing him w-i-d-e to get there. He’s great in a straight line, the second we have to turn a corner, he loses rhythm, or he just stops. Or, he’ll ignore the corner, & cut through the center of the ring. Now, I understand where he is in his learning, & where I need to make corrections, so we can make the best of it. Thank you for this video, my situation makes sense now. LoL….👍🏼🌺😊
I am so glad that it helps you and your horse. 😊x
Nice artwork too! I just wanted to ask what is hanging down past your stirrups?
I took notes while watching! Thank you for the lovely explanations with visuals. My Ridgies want to play with your Ridgie.
Oh ... my boys love to play! They would love to meet your Ridgies! Thank you for taking the time to comment. :)
Question, when he was leaning in on the left shoulder what exactly are you doing to ask him to shift his weight? I recently discovered your videos and I'm so happy I did!! There are so great and informative. Thanks so much !!
In this early green stage, I think I would have been perhaps using the whip on his shoulder just to tap it and remind him not to fall out through it. I haven't watched this video for a long time so I'm not entirely sure but I do know that is how I help a green horse transfer some weight when he is falling through the shoulder.
Very awesome! I am training a baby at the moment and he is doing everything Rebel does in the video… so funny when you put leg on and they stop! But your videos are fabulous.
Do you use trot or canter poles?
Yes I do Laura but not as often as I would like! I find them great to engage the youngsters brain. Often the first outing my youngsters get is to a “poles” clinic.
Old video :). Yet please do more videos on green ottbs. I have a lovely ottb that I’ve restarted. So I’d like to see more info :)
I don't have any OTTB's but I'm soon to start a brumby so I will be sure and film what I do with him 🙂
This is lovely to watch, thank you so much for uploading this video. I have a quick question if it's alright, I have a five year old stock project whose conformation has her naturally stiff at the poll and neck. I have begun to do something similar to your style, work them in a forward manner at the trot, however I loosened my reins whenever the pony reached forward for contact because I'm interested in lowered her neck position. If my hands or arms are stiff or locked on, no matter how hard or how long I work her, she struggles to reach forward into the bit and relax/lower her neck. I am just curious, I noticed in your style Rebel starts stretching down while staying on the bit, you make a reference of hitting the wall and tightening your core. Would you say you're making the wall will your core or your arms/hands, or a combination of both? Or can you perhaps think of a way to teach a green horse balance/contact without having locked arms and hands? I am hoping to turn her into a nice western dressage pony.
Hi Joie, thanks for your question. If you keep "giving the reins away' when your horse reaches for them you will never get the connection required to get the horse on the bit. The first step is acceptance of the bit and that is what I am doing with Rebel in this video. You have a feel on the bit as light as you possibly can (like your reins were a cotton thread) and follow the horse wherever they got (with their head) You never want to have locked arms/hands as that will not be elastic to the horses mouth. When I talk about "hitting the wall" it would be when Rebel went to lean heavily on the reins and I just became a wall so I didn't pull and he would "give". I use my core for that and perhaps put my elbows in by my sides (so I don't accidentally pull) but my hands and wrists are not locked. Only once you have the horse accepting the bit can you start to ask them to stretch in a longer outline and/or go on the bit. In this video Rebel was stretching of his own accord and I was following him to keep the soft feel on the rein. I hope that helps you 🙂
Thank you so much for this video, it has come at a perfect time as I have just got a OTT that hasn’t done much work. I would love to know what the half breed saddle is as I would like to purchase something similar for my boy. Many thanks for your channel Josie..
Oh, that's exciting Jillian! I would love to hear how you go with your new horse so please keep in touch. I use a Steve Jefferys Ammo. It's an Australian brand (not sure where you are located) - it's synthetic so doesn't need much maintenance and it's really lightweight. I found the leather ones really heavy to put on and off horses all day when I was starting lots of young horses.
@@BasicHorseTraining Hi Josie, thanks for your reply.. I’m in Australia too 💕 in between the Gold Coast and Brisbane but formerly from Victoria. Being of a height challenged person and in my early 60’s lol, and my boy is approx 16.2 and only 4, I too, didn’t want a heavy saddle so a synthetic stock saddle would be good to start with.
I know I can relate to you and your videos so they are now my go to learning aid at home, 😃
@@jilliansharp1127 Oh ... you will need a ladder lol. You should be able to get 2nd hand Ammo if you wanted. If you have any questions please don't hesitate to ask and I will do my best to help you :)
lovely video! what are you using to record yourself (thought i heard you say Pivo?), or do you have a person taping all of your sessions?
I use a Pixio not a Pivo @hoofgirl31
Awesome video! I have a question, my horse is understanding forwardness, but when i tighten my reins to get a soft feel of his mouth he puts his head up. What would you do in this situation? I want to have long reins where he follows the contact down
It's hard to answer specific situations when I can't see what is going on, but I will hazard a guess - it sounds a little like he doesn't accept the contact, which I am trying to teach Rebel in this video. You have to be able to "touch the bit". You have a contact with the bit, you can feel it, but the pressure on the bit is only enough, so if the rein was a cotton thread, it would break if the pressure/weight on the bit was too much. YOU then have to follow his mouth everywhere without decreasing or increasing the pressure/weight. This requires you to be a balanced rider with a good core. It is such a hard concept to relay in words but I hope that helps a little.
My horse is great with stop and turning, my issues is that I never lunge unless the horse hasn't had turnout which they always do or they're just starting. My green horses are quick learners tho I need to have a crop to support my leg.
I often use a crop to support my legs too Katie. 🙂
Hello! I wanted to ask you how I can teach my horse to trot in place. From the ground to the saddle. I do not want to confuse her but curing her to trot is one thing but in place is another.
I like your videos that on your horse and I like your video that you do win you horse Nannette
Thank you
@@BasicHorseTraining You are welcome
did you do the pastel painting behind you?
Also what bit have you got him in?
I'm surprised at how much trotting you do without a break and a stretch on a young green horse, certainly not a criticism just an observation. I enjoy your channel
Hi Chell, thanks for your comment and I think it is a valuable one 🙏. I don't feel the 10 minutes of trotting was too much for Rebel at that point in his training. If I thought that he was tiring I certainly would have walked but I was after a specific "feeling" and I find it much easier to get (for me and the horse) at the trot. There was no stretch because without a proper connection there could be no stretch and getting a connection was the aim of this training session. Rebel was free to put his head wherever he wanted and it was my job just to follow him with a very light contact to the bit. I would have been ecstatic if he stretched as the aim to getting a correct connection with the bit is to be able to get the horse to connect correctly and then you can get them to stretch correctly over their backs.
Thanks for the video.How often do you ride in a week?
It depends on the age and fitness of the horse. I don’t start my horses until they are 4 (Rebel was 5) and they only do 4 days a week. The most they work is 5 days and I try to break the training up to ground work, riding out, arena work and some very low gymnastic jumping when I can.
@@BasicHorseTraining I just discovered your videos and this comment made me feel so much better about waiting until 4 almost 5 to start my horse under saddle. I’ve handled him since he was born and he’s always been a super sweet horse but he lost an eye at 2 and a half and I felt like it was too soon, I also was in college and didn’t feel like I could dedicate enough time to starting him. I feel like waiting was SUCH a good decision because he hasn’t given me any major issues in training so far and is a sweet boy. Just trying to find ways to build trust with him because he is very nervous about going around with his blind side towards the inside of the area.
Shelby you are being the BEST owner a horses could ask for 💝. Trust you instincts. Give him the time he needs and I have no doubt he will trust you and do whatever you ask of him. 😊.
Thank you for the video! Question for you: when I ask my young horse to go forward, he just gets quick and tense. What would you recommend?
Heather can you tell me what you mean by forward? I am just trying to understand your question so I can give you the best answer I can.
I am asking because I'm not sure in what situation you are asking your horse to go more forward - that may help me with the answer.
@@BasicHorseTraining Yes, of course! At the trot, he is relatively happy to shuffle along with no impulsion. When I put my leg on to ask for forward, I want to maintain the rhythm while getting more impulsion. Instead, he resists contact, gets tense in the neck and back, and takes quick steps.
Ok got it. If you are looking for a little more impulsion/energy I would do walk trot transitions and get him to respond promptly because the he needs to push a little more off his hind leg. He may not be snappy to start with and that is ok. It’s your job to explain to him what you want. Walk four steps now trot. Walk three steps now trot. Shorten the number of steps and then as you go to walk and you feel him start to come back to walk just gently go ... or changed my mind now let’s keep trotting. It can take a while but he will work it out. I hope that helps 🙂
@@BasicHorseTraining Thank you so much! I hadn't thought of doing that before. I will definitely try.
i love you
came here for help with my horse rebel 😂
Yeah okay but this didn't actually help. Can people use more difficult breeds for this rather than ones that are pretty naturally inclined to carry themselves at least close to correct. Like show me wirh an Arab or something
The principals remain exactly the same KA. Doesn’t matter what breed of horse you ride.
Fantastic to watch him as a green horse. Luv luv luv your videos. So informative. Thankyou Josie
You are welcome 🙂