If were talking faceless men hit on Jon. I think the number one contender would be Littlefinger. He has the Bravos connections, the buckets of money, and Jon is a threat to Sansa's claim to the north (especially if he somehow knows about robbs will or stannis's offer)
You know this actually is a great pitch. Satin writing Pink Letter would not be the first time a world altering message has been written on the orders of Littlefinger.
Can’t believe it’s been almost a year and a half since I discovered your guys’ channel. Just want you guys to know if you ever stopped doing what you guys do I’d have a rather large hole to fill
I can't help but notice certain similarities of Satin with Jon. Dark hair and eyes. Ned's eye turn black sometimes. Pretty with curly hair. Also, his age is not truely known. He is believed to be 18. Perhapd Satin the child Ned fathered on the fisherman's daughter. Ned was in that area when the war broke out. Perhaps Satin is the real Jon Snow.
Listen. Listen to me for a sec. I GENUINELY believe that they cut Satin from the show not only because they're assholes but ALSO because he looks EXACTLY like Kit Harington and it would be EXTREMELY confusing to the audience
Great video. Could it be that Satin is at the wall (just) for information? Especially the library comes to mind where knowledge is hidden. He could be one of two or more information-gatherers who are send out by the Faceless Men to collect knowledge.
THANK YOU. I think that's a good take, and maybe more likely. We do know Satin is in a place where he will be reading and hearing a lot of Jon's letters and meetings. Maybe he's a full on spy.
For this Satin is a Faceless man sent to kill Jon theory to make sense. the client has to be someone who has reason to kill Jon very early in the story. So it can't have to do with him being Lord Commander.
Idk if it’s been mentioned at all…. But Satin’s only a year older than Jon and he’s only 14,15 in ACOK mayyyybe 16, since Robb is 15 and there’s the whole “Jon was born right before Robb” theory I’ve heard about, cause of the like weather descriptions or something surrounding their birth(it’s been awhile since I’ve thought about it). So he’s oldest 19, youngest 17. Supposing Jon is 16 in his first chapter of ACOK. Idk if it makes much of a difference but to me? 17 and 19 were reaaaalllly different in experience and other bs that goes on in that age frame.. 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️ so idk if it means anything to yall.
@@eric2500 I got the vibe that they were more of a Repertory theater and wouldn’t travel from city to city but rather they have a single theater that they perform in ind change play rather then changing theater and keeping the same play
Yall seem nice, very interesting topic, but ngl the tangents made this a bit hard to follow and overall kinda made me not want to finish. Not saying you can’t have fun but I’m 20 min into the video and I still have no idea what this guys theory is and that’s kinda why I clicked on the video, I def could see your channel grow but I think a bit of formatting would help, or time stamps
Silas from the discord. love the video, but I did see one potential problem. it goes like this. kindly man: one of our guys was going to the wall, change of plan, we need you to go & swap faces with a male horse. faceless man: can I not swap faces with a brigand or a barber, a beggar or two orphan boys. kindly man: no, but there might be some beggary involved (lol). faceless man: that little girl from the north didn't have to play a same sex, sex worker, will I have to take one for the team? kindly man: only if Jon Snow asks nicely.
I like the faceless men swapping missions but dislike the speculation at the end. Jaqen heading to the Night's Watch is usually linked to Bloodraven and replacing that gets rid of the reason he would be headed there in the first place. The only mission that could fit the speculation and him already heading there would be 'kill the lord commander/ destabilize the Night's Watch' which... why? It's ship of theseusing away the original idea.
Unless he figured or was told by Littlefinger, who most likely got him to kill Ned because he's Ned, that Ned would be sent to the wall. He gets himself set to go to the wall but Joffrey kills Ned. Now he doesn't have a mission which is why he could dick around with Arya before he just bounces back to Bravos. His mission was done so he grabbed a new trainee as they are prob hard to find. Otherwise, he would have escaped right away if he didn't see how obvious it was Arya trying to hide her identity as a boy, and do it poorly like a faceless man does and would obviously notice right away.
Maybe Satin's mission is indeed to kill Bloodraven, and he's just hanging around at the wall trying to get close to Jon to acquire information about Bloodraven's possible whereabouts, and any involvement he had with the assassination of Jon was just to create chaos so nobody will notice him when he slips away beyond the wall?
If were talking faceless men hit on Jon. I think the number one contender would be Littlefinger. He has the Bravos connections, the buckets of money, and Jon is a threat to Sansa's claim to the north (especially if he somehow knows about robbs will or stannis's offer)
You know this actually is a great pitch. Satin writing Pink Letter would not be the first time a world altering message has been written on the orders of Littlefinger.
Can’t believe it’s been almost a year and a half since I discovered your guys’ channel. Just want you guys to know if you ever stopped doing what you guys do I’d have a rather large hole to fill
I can't help but notice certain similarities of Satin with Jon. Dark hair and eyes. Ned's eye turn black sometimes. Pretty with curly hair. Also, his age is not truely known. He is believed to be 18. Perhapd Satin the child Ned fathered on the fisherman's daughter. Ned was in that area when the war broke out. Perhaps Satin is the real Jon Snow.
OH MY GOD MAYBE SATIN IS THE BABY SWAP.
@@InterestingNerdClub That's what I thought.
Listen. Listen to me for a sec. I GENUINELY believe that they cut Satin from the show not only because they're assholes but ALSO because he looks EXACTLY like Kit Harington and it would be EXTREMELY confusing to the audience
@@deffdeff9520 More confusing than the 10 Robs and 20Jons in the book. LOL I think you're probably right.
Everyones on the Old Town road.
Great video. Could it be that Satin is at the wall (just) for information? Especially the library comes to mind where knowledge is hidden. He could be one of two or more information-gatherers who are send out by the Faceless Men to collect knowledge.
THANK YOU. I think that's a good take, and maybe more likely. We do know Satin is in a place where he will be reading and hearing a lot of Jon's letters and meetings. Maybe he's a full on spy.
In parallel to Sam going to Oldtown to find information on the Horns, dragonglass, the Others ?
More in parallel to "the Alchemist" who took Pates identity to get to rare books.
For this Satin is a Faceless man sent to kill Jon theory to make sense. the client has to be someone who has reason to kill Jon very early in the story. So it can't have to do with him being Lord Commander.
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It's amazing the lineups you can make happen when you try hard enough
We need to fully explore Mr. Ed’s holes
Satin knows how to sew and decorate, and in our world satin is a material etcetera etcetera.
Idk if it’s been mentioned at all…. But Satin’s only a year older than Jon and he’s only 14,15 in ACOK mayyyybe 16, since Robb is 15 and there’s the whole “Jon was born right before Robb” theory I’ve heard about, cause of the like weather descriptions or something surrounding their birth(it’s been awhile since I’ve thought about it). So he’s oldest 19, youngest 17. Supposing Jon is 16 in his first chapter of ACOK. Idk if it makes much of a difference but to me? 17 and 19 were reaaaalllly different in experience and other bs that goes on in that age frame.. 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️ so idk if it means anything to yall.
'I'll take Roose Bolton for 500, the answer is "what are leeches?"
Tom's right death doesn't discriminate.
Between the sinners and the saints
Satin is Faceless Ayra. So Ayra x Jon is confirmed.
A Satin episode!
ITS A SATIN EPISOOOOOODE
50:46 two things the faceless men make a point not to kill those they know and I am pretty sure after mercy Arya is booking
I think she's going WITH the troupe to play KL with that Tyrion - resembling character as the villain in it.
@@eric2500 I got the vibe that they were more of a Repertory theater and wouldn’t travel from city to city but rather they have a single theater that they perform in ind change play rather then changing theater and keeping the same play
Satin is a faceless man sent to take out the great other and is thus Azor Ahai
6:46 Wait, I thought one of y’all was GRRM?
Yall seem nice, very interesting topic, but ngl the tangents made this a bit hard to follow and overall kinda made me not want to finish. Not saying you can’t have fun but I’m 20 min into the video and I still have no idea what this guys theory is and that’s kinda why I clicked on the video, I def could see your channel grow but I think a bit of formatting would help, or time stamps
The Bond Burger video is not in the description.
I fixed I'm sorry I'm a disaster.
Satin as the Handsome Man from the Arya chapters? Or the Youth?
Silas from the discord. love the video, but I did see one potential problem. it goes like this. kindly man: one of our guys was going to the wall, change of plan, we need you to go & swap faces with a male horse. faceless man: can I not swap faces with a brigand or a barber, a beggar or two orphan boys. kindly man: no, but there might be some beggary involved (lol). faceless man: that little girl from the north didn't have to play a same sex, sex worker, will I have to take one for the team? kindly man: only if Jon Snow asks nicely.
This is fantastic and I hope during the Bran flashbacks we get to see this conversation on screen lol
@@InterestingNerdClub thanx, love you guys. hope you like my things in the woods comment, & the invitation is genuine.
Take the bait, Zach, take the bait!
Broooother i would 100% watch a starcraft story vid
Algormancy!
ALGORMANCY
Arya knows Jon, she can't kill Jon. FM rules.
I like the faceless men swapping missions but dislike the speculation at the end. Jaqen heading to the Night's Watch is usually linked to Bloodraven and replacing that gets rid of the reason he would be headed there in the first place. The only mission that could fit the speculation and him already heading there would be 'kill the lord commander/ destabilize the Night's Watch' which... why? It's ship of theseusing away the original idea.
Unless he figured or was told by Littlefinger, who most likely got him to kill Ned because he's Ned, that Ned would be sent to the wall. He gets himself set to go to the wall but Joffrey kills Ned. Now he doesn't have a mission which is why he could dick around with Arya before he just bounces back to Bravos. His mission was done so he grabbed a new trainee as they are prob hard to find. Otherwise, he would have escaped right away if he didn't see how obvious it was Arya trying to hide her identity as a boy, and do it poorly like a faceless man does and would obviously notice right away.
Maybe Satin's mission is indeed to kill Bloodraven, and he's just hanging around at the wall trying to get close to Jon to acquire information about Bloodraven's possible whereabouts, and any involvement he had with the assassination of Jon was just to create chaos so nobody will notice him when he slips away beyond the wall?
I thought the Death of Dragons was at the Wall not Oldtown?
I believe Tyrion thinks it's under the Citadel, but he could be wrong and so could I lol
You guys are so slap happy!
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