The Problem with Time Travel - ASOIAF Theories
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
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Precipice. The word you were looking for is precipice.
I thought brink.
I wonder if Bran the more he goes back in time the more he becomes like doctor Manhattan seeing him trying as futile
Tom says at the start the video will be 40 minutes of analysis and hour of bits. The video is 1 hour and 40 minutes. Tom is a time traveler.
I’ll fight you in the comments! Bill and Ted’s Bogus Journey is the best of the trilogy. The first was groundbreaking in a lot of ways and the third was a rare thing in this day and age, a well done ending. That said, B&TBG had it all. Betrayal, death, redemption, Death, time travel, and aliens to boot.
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This take on Matrix 4 has me questioning all your takes. 2 and 3 were amazing in comparison. Definitely watch Donnie Darko.
Time travel in the terminator is f’d mostly because of that one with Emilia Clarke and unhinged Jon Connor
If I had a nickel for every time INC told me to pause the video and watch a John Mulaney clip, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
I’m curious what you guys think about whether Alys Rivers betting on Grover being dead in 3 days. Was it a “I saw the future and he’ll be dead in 3 days” or “in the 3 days I’m gonna kill him”?
She was there when he died, doesn’t take a fucking detective. Edit: The real question is about the Tully Maesters purposefully keeping Grover dangling on the edge of mortality. In effect maintaining a status quo over the RiverLands, while allowing large lapses in power structures amongst their bannermen.
@@fletcherw32 yes but I’m saying did she personally kill the man or did she just go there to confirm his death so she could get word to Harrenhal asap? Her being able to predict his death day from natural causes is equally as interesting as her getting her hands dirty and killing him herself.
Imagine doing warging in time for the lols, pan to Aegon the conquerer just as he looks back at Rhaenys holding their newborn son and Bran whispers back in time *anus*...
Please read all Dune! You will be amazed at how many stories you already know that have taken from it.
The end of Children of Dune is my favorite! God Emperor is beyond what you could expect.
Paul and his son Leto are bad guys. Paul knows what will happen and does NOT prevent it. He seems a genocide in his father’s name, so what does he do? Name his son after his father. That son died. What does he’s do? Names his next son the same name.
He could have chosen to die but he instead makes a play for the empire. Leto 2 is another level of f’d up. Bringing Duncan back so many times is f’d!
“It’s so much easier to sink than it is to fly. I guess that’s why there’s more planes at the bottom of the ocean than submarines in the sky”
2:30 Hodor
25:00 Bran the save scummer
48:00 Donnie sleepwalks and meets Frank the rabbit one night, who tells Donnie the world ends 28 days later. Shenanigans ensue
1:20:10 no, but is just as valid as yes, and.
1:37:15 I’m fond of the time travel in Chrono Trigger
I've never been the first view before.....how exciting
The irony of talking about Bran time traveling to fix things while George is struggling to write because he ended a character he still needed. 🤣
Donnie darko is an edgy teenager with the power to project a black balloon hand from his chest, & gets bullied by a man in a rabbit fur suit named franky. Also they discuss smurf sex for no discernable reason.
(Have not watched since like 2012 so my memory is a bit fuzzy)
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o7 you could have Rick Rolled. You didn't.
[Thumbnail showing bloodraven wearing shades with intertwined fingers covering his mouth]
"Get in the hodor, bran"
The best theory its the AOT one..... BRAN=EREN YEAGER
Isayama did first what GRRM take to long to write and portrait, Time travel through memories (also... represented by a tree in both, and north mythology)
Oh no, I really, really hate the way AoT uses time travel.
Functionally, Eren is manipulating all the events of the series from that moment at the end of the arc, forcing characters to do nonsensical things just to fix the paradox and completely removing his own agency to implant... His own agency again?...
It's weird, gives Eren zero agency but too much agency at the same time because he's forcing himself to do things that he was already forced by himself to do, and also every single attack titan user in history, so everything that happens in history is of his design...
Just for him to start a nonsensical and unnecessary genocide that will accomplish nothing, will make the world a worse place and give a justifiable reason to the world to hate his people.
@@wumbojet well... eren is just influencing "attack titan users" to go the place were everything happens... but its the same concept, time travel with memories. (i did not like the ending of AOT, but i dont know what i wanted as a ending of that story either....)
GRRM i think has a better chance to pull that off, TIME TRAVEL THROUGH MEMORIES, bran pretty much its gonna warg with trees and at some point its gonna be revealed that he has influenced stuff through time.
The hodor moment was just his first error, but will be revealed that he is talking through fire with melisandre, probably give dreams to jaime when he rested on a tree or things like that.
When its revelaled we will go back and see "oh, that dream was bran, so that person move in that direction"
An entire video analyzing various sci-fi/fantasy time travel tropes, and how the concepts might connect to ASOIAF, and *NOT ONE* mention of Bran going back in time to give Aegon the Unworthy that Sports Almanac.
The magical creatures living normal lives in the human world isn't a Dresden Files or American Gods thing. That's just the urban fantasy subgenre as a whole.
What exactly is Tom's problem with Undertale? I don't understand what he's talking about.
I don't think you understood Dune very well. Dune is the factual blueprint for ASOIAF
Slaughterhouse Five isn't about a time loop. Billy Pilgrim has become unstuck in time, he's popping in and out of his own timeline, as well as living in a human zoo on the planet Tralfamadore. And while no cause is attributed to his being "unstuck," Slaughterhouse Five is, ultimately, a war novel, and both Billy Pilgrim, the character, and Kurt Vonnegut, the author, were in Dresden during the firebombing and experience PTSD.
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In the main timeline of Marvel comics (line 616) all time travel is derived from two sources. Dr Dooms time platform and and Kangs tech. Each machine is works differently, Dooms machine works in "pen" in issue five Dr Doom sends back Mr. Fantastic, jonny, and the thing to find Merlins stones and get them from Blackbeard. Trouble is the thing is Blackbeard. There in fact never was a blackbeard until the thing traveled back in time and needed a disguise. I think Kangs machine writes in pencil and that his changes create new timelines because he observes the changes from the end of time. Yet there are also hints that Kang and Doom are more closely related. For instance in issue ten when Doom is floating into the void of space he wills his future self to come back and save him. And Rama Tut shows up and they dont know if they arent the same person.
Did Tom really just say that about undertale! Yay I agree, premise wasn’t unique and very little value beyond core philosophical gimmick. That’s a hot take though Tom, if you like your knees you keep that shit to yoself!
14:22 Daemon is just being pranked by the Old Gods.
At the end you asked for some other instances of time travel in media and I had to make myself pick just one so that I wouldn't be here forever and in that case I'm gonna talk about zero escape/999 now (spoilers obviously)
So 999 is a puzzle game with branching paths, and the plot is that the 9 characters are trapped on a boat that will sink in 9 hours and they have to get through these 9 numbered puzzle rooms to escape,
and over the course of the game you realize that, this puzzle game was done 9 years ago by someone else, and in that puzzle game that took place 9 years ago there was a girl who died-
and at the end of the game you find out that the girl who died 9 years ago is the one who set up this game in the present because due to time travel shenanigans, it's required to solve a puzzle in the present in order to save her in the past, and she knew how to orchestrate the whole game in the present because she was having a future vision of it in the timeline from 9 years ago
Basically what I find very compelling about it is the contrast of the fact the younger version of herself obviously didn't deserve to die, but in order to save herself she had to orchestrate this very terrible future
The initial time travelling Bran theory really reminded me of that because (I might be wrong cause I haven't seen it in a while) in the original theory the idea is that Bran is trying repeatedly to escape Bloodravens cave alive and he keeps going back and altering details to make it happen, including destroying Hodor's mind. So it's a very similar scenario where normal Bran does not deserve to die, but time travelling Bran has had to do terrible things to make sure he lives
Okay that's where I'm done rambling for now, awesome video, I love thinking about time travel
Yall ever seen the Netflix show "Dark". The whole playing the time chess match against yourself thing is a big part of that show.
Tom I watched 10 hours of Game of Thrones and didn't like it. I tried again a year later and became obsessed with it to the point that I watch this channel.
You should try Undertale again.
I just watched bran the time god video. You gotta be insane that you literally jjst uploaded this. That's insane
I'm at the start, Also you don't mention attack on titan I will flip the fuck out
Also, Red Door is the best theory you've ever done, bran the time god is good, but the final point of (there are two Branns affecting world, a younger and Older - that's bad. I don't think that makes sense. And nobody in comments did either
I disagree. Screwing up and trying to undo your alteration is a reasonably common component of time travel stories. Bran doing so (whether his change of heart is correct or not) is just the same concept on a larger scale.
Isn’t hades the only god you fight in that game? Is the shop keeper a god? Did you fight Hermes’?
Time travel is the dumbest, most lazy thing a writer can do..
Oh man, I should write some stuff in the discord...
Honestly TT Bran just is Leto II Atreides
27:36 kinda like Rika in Higurashi
Time travel is 7-vector travel. That means you have to match time, three values of location, and three directions of inertia. Otherwise you appear in deep space, or worse moving at orbital speed in the opposite direction from everything and impact with enough energy to make an asteroid like crater.
An interesting sci-fi idea would be to make time speed a vector too, so you run the risk of reentering the time stream moving too fast or too slow through time.
Cant wait for Back to the Future 5 where Zac is tormented by the ghosts Michael J Fox past, present and future
Bran is mutha fkn Garth the Green! Who woulda guessed!
And the gray king
For the algo :)
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You should get Quinn’s Ideas on here to talk about Dune/GoT similarities!!!
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I agree that Zach’s take on Time Traveling Bran is the best take on it
Donnie darko in twenty words, by someone who hasn't watched the movie in like seven years i think
Nightmares. Rabbit. angst. Suck-a-fuck, time travel. teenage love. smurfette. The beauty of being alive. Time loop. Donnies a good kid.
You forgot the most important one, 2000's
@@wumbojet VERY true, throw Smurftte out the plane and replace her XP
What an incredible steam
Oh shit I was mentioned.
Also yes the Bran story is just like trying to 100% Hades. Bran is a speedrunner. He's gonna find the most optimal strate you ever seen.
THANK you
But the biggest problem with time travel is that Bran wasn’t born yet when show Hodor was a child so it created a paradox
What if Bran is trapped in a time loop and George is trapped writing the chapter in which this is revealed, every time he ends the chapter, he has to start writing it again
My first time being early! I get to live react ;)
Yeah I wish you went with the full-Hodor title and horse
PLEASE talk about Stephen King
Slaughterhouse really drove me mad. I couldn’t get all the way through it because the plot wouldn’t must move…. Forward
I really hope you two bring up Unsound Variations during this “let’s name time travel stories” section
19:53 you were looking for the word “precipice”
Paul steering into the war doesn't make him a villain, because he can see far into the future and the war is required to save humanity
It in fact still makes him a villain. Messiah is dedicated to Paul's monologues about the multitude of reasons each one of his atrocities are unjustifiable, including the fact that he manipulated the Fremen and turned them into a deeply bloodthirsty and ruthless cult to the point of destroying everything else about them.
The fact that Herbert decided to skip the explicit telling of Paul's Jihad and just wrote about the consequences and casualties is a clear sign that they are not good regardless of their larger purpose.
Paul does nothing to thwart the plans against him because he believes what he did to be wrong.
I have no idea what this ones about but it looked interesting 🤔
HODOOOOOOOOOOR
Time traveling Bran ruined the show. Why did he allow Jaime to push him? Why didn’t he save Ned? Why didn’t he stop the red wedding? Bran must be evil to allow all this to happen
I think Haelaena is Paul Atreides. The difference being that in Dune future is a web of possibilities. Whereas in ASOIAF universe time is a line, which you can sometimes see along one, forward or backwards, but no one until Bran could look at that time line (get it, timeline? I`ll see myself out.) and re-write it. So Haelaena sees things to come, knows things to come, but also knows that this line cannot be changed or altered in any way.
That, or she is in some way in contact with Bran. And Bran makes a point to tell her "don`t change anything, it is already very difficult without your intervention, if you change something, then I will have to do another run through".
But in general I think Haelaena is another Bran. And seemingly there were many people throughout history who had similar powers to Bran. Its just that for some reason it had to be Bran specifically who gets to use these powers to their fullest extent.
Nobody is watching an audio podcast on youtube with a black screen…made it one minute in and dipped out. Good topic though.