More Engineered Events Analysed
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- In this episode, I look at three clips. Two are clearly engineered situations by content creators looking for trouble and one is an honest mistake.
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"Be careful" he says after forcing himself between a car and another bike.
And failing to leave 1.5mtrs. 😂
Another entitled cyclist. They want all 'their rights' but no responsibility😊
Yes a "Jeremy Vine" is now a synonym for an "complete entitled tossser on a bike".
@@regbarnard2866
You'll be getting wrong off the cyclist mob x
In Belgium, cyclists have way when they join the road when the cycling path they're on merges onto the highway. It's not an explicit rule, but it's because you have to give way to the right on junctions. So legally, they would be in the wrong.
And I myself do quite agree with this ruling. Cars should preferably give way to joining cycle paths. But I'm not saying you shouldn't watch out for cars as a cyclist in that instance either.
Right, I've said my thing. You all have a great day!!!
I hit a long tailback on the motorway pretty much every morning and have done for years. My strategy if you can call it that is to relax, hang back from the car in front perhaps 20 or 30 feet and travel at the average slow speed of the traffic in second gear just to ease stress and strain on my brake lights, clutch and overall sanity. I like to sip on my nice cup of tea while I am at it. This overall behaviour seems to absolutely infuriate some drivers (quite often lorry drivers) who will tailgate me trying to push me closer to the traffic in front even though they are not getting anywhere any more quickly. Some drivers also don't like the idea of me "letting the occasional driver pull in in front of me" either. They don't seem to understand that the 3rd driver is either going to pull in where he/she just has or is otherwise going to drive on and pull in somewhere ahead anyway thus making very little difference to the overall equation of time and stress. Also, it's quite strange how fast tailbacks actually travel if you slow down and let the traffic evaporate in front. People need to learn to relax in the morning not get unnecessarily wound up.
Regarding the Silvio clip, I'm not sure how else I would have approached the roundabout differently as a cyclist except being a bit slower and more cautious. In general, I find roundabouts are especially tricky for cyclists due to cyclists having a thin profile making them hard to see as you mentioned due to A-pillar blindspots. I think it would be a great topic to cover in a video to learn how to safely approach and navigate a roundabout as a cyclist.
Tom Scott did an excellent video about a cyclist killed at a New Forest junction layout which induced 'A' pillar blindness in an oncoming driver. The oblique angle of the junction meant the cyclist and the car approached the same point without the driver ever being able to see him. A tragic.accident, resulting in a re-configuring of the junction.
Get off... and walk around it pushing the bike as a pedestrian on the pavement....?
@@chrisl1797 and why should they do that?
The main point on roundabout as a drive and as a cyclist is to take them carefully and be constantly watching for entering /exiting traffic and adjusting as appropriate
Almost every issue I see or encounter at roundabout is due to impatience and/or taking the roundabout too fast.
Plus sometimes a dash of unwillingness to accommodate for people who have found themselves in wrong position
@@TheHitcher30 Why not if it is sketchy to ride round it. There is a roundabout near me that I won't turn right at (in my car). On the odd occasion I have used it I have made three left turns. Much safer.
Cycles right into a small gap between a cyclist and a car... "oooh you're a bit close"
Yep.....a complete prat. Want all of their "rights" but will accept NO responsibility
Just catching up with your latest clips Ash. Totally agree with your analysis of the first clip here re the order the three road users should have gone in. And how ironic that the interaction occurred right opposite where a police car was parked. I was almost expecting an officer to get out of the patrol csr to see what was going on.
I suspect Silvio has yet to discover the perils of wet roads and the manhole cover.
Really? Because the wet road was probably why he straight lined the roundabout.
@@maskofsan1ty There are no manhole covers on the roundabout.
@@veritasaequitas9875 correct
@@maskofsan1ty So I don't understand your point.
Why is the roundabout relevant to my original comment.
@veritasaequitas9875 roads are slippery in the wet.
2:39 also looking at the shadows the sun is quite low down and directly behind the cyclist so likely couldn't see the cyclist there either
Good extra point this!
The behaviours of the biker and the driver from the third clip were funny.
Why is the cyclist in the opposing lane at 3:42 with oncoming traffic but not overtaking? Looks like the driver had to take evasive action to make it safe for everyone
When two egos get into a tarmac war there are no winners, only danger and the lack of seeing it
I think criticism of the 1st rider is correct, he just pulled out to do a poor overtake giving the overtaking driver no chance to adjust.
Additionally the criticism of the 2nd Rider and his behavior "after" the car pulled out on him was wrong... However, I don't think the rider was in the wrong to be on the right of the roundabout as it said straight ahead both lanes, additionally you cannot assume he didn't provide a hand signal.. the pulling out of that car was dreadful and dangerous. I don't think you can blame the cyclist for that.
There is no excuse for pulling out there if there is swiftly approaching oncoming traffic regardless of the lane. The cyclist could have been in the left hand lane but the fault and initial poor driving was from the Mercedes driver....
signalling straight on a bike tends to make people think you are from 1940's germany, tend to avoid that one
Second clip..... I have a suspicion here that they are BOTH riding in tandem to create content.
car drivers being triggered by cyclists overtaking (or taking/having their right of way for that matter) are well within the worst 10-20% of drivers
It's alot harder to find a gap and it's like overtaking a long vehical with 1.5m clearance
In the Silvio clip, the Mercedes might have slowed dpwn for the speed camera.
I have to admit that I used to ride like Silvio when I was younger. Just had a massive chip on my shoulder. Most people grow out of it, sadly many who don't grow out of it choose to become dash cam drivers or cyclists.
I do find it odd how your comments on this video are all people complaining about 'cyclists' but your clips with drivers never cause people to complain about 'drivers', even though 'drivers' kill about 1000 times more people each year in the UK....
On the second clip, the Mercedes could be slowing as that's where the fixed speed camera zone is and the satnav may have chimed. It's only a 20 zone, within a cyclist's speed window, and it's just by the camera that Silvio overtakes (into oncoming traffic...). Once past the camera (and the zebra crossing's zigzags) the Mercedes increases speed and overtakes. Then they both catch up with the van maintaining 20.
Spoiler Alert: Silvio gets himself doored by a car parked on the opposite side of the road.
The first clip needs some review. You said when you stopped the clip, that is how you should look at the situation, or keep the situation. But the white car is on the middle of the (small) roundabout. There are white markings there. Is that allowed? To me it seems the white car is cutting of the road, then realising the bus is a bit in the way. How would the situation be if the car stayed on the correct lane / part of the road? This would have taken more time, space. Also he wouldn’t have been so close to the cyclist due to better cornering. Maybe then also the cyclist would have ended up behind the car ?
I'm familiar with all locations. On the first clip, the discussion happened in front of Kingston Police station. On the second one, the car might have slowed down because of a speed camera, albeit only for the opposite direction of travel.
Chaponabike will be the usual ex uni lanky bearded drip who works in Architecture, Software development or Legal. They all do. Single is also common trait. Halitosis a bonus.
Clip 1, this is why cyclists get so much hate
No it isn't. Of course cyclists get hate partly because the overall standard of cycling on the roads is poor. But there's so much irrational hatred of cyclists it's unreal. Cycling should be seen as a net positive for society. Divisive bs like this comment is just making the conversation more and more toxic.
The first guy in the car was still a classic 'must get in front' type as well. Take the idiot with the cycle cam and he still put the cyclist in front in unnecessary danger to overtake, only to then turn left anyway.
I'd have certainly done a better job as a driver of that
5:12 This is the A206 in Woolwich.
chap on a bike. How can someone complain about a car being 'a bit close', when he is the one closing down the space. Sylvio, (on S. Croxted road). I didn't think did much wrong at the roundabout. But his antics afterwards were, well, stupid really. I'm guessing the car put the brakes on because his sat nav (or car), told him there was a speed camera further down, so braked to get down to 20 MPH. Which would mean Sylvio was speeding, the car then sped up again after the speed camera, (like many car drivers do). I don't think the can specifically wanted to get in front, they probably just thought 20 was too slow, so put the foot down after the camera. Sylvio just has a bad attitude.
Silvio's clip needs to be forwarded to the police. he's telling on himself for his own illegal riding.
Idiot on a bike needs to remember the rule " Do NOT overtake when you , yourself , are being overtaken" , had he hit the white van , he would have been at fault and held responsible for any damage he did .
I'm rarely angry at videos or other drivers. But even as a regular cyclist (who hardly drives much) his patronising talk (ChapOnABike) winds me up a touch. Never mind the car drivers.
And also if you are chasing a car going 20mph and catching them you are breaking the mandated speed limit for the area.
no speed limit for bikes, but bad practice anyhow
Speed limits in the UK only apply to motor vehicles so they don't apply to pedal cycles, horse drawn vehicles, etc. There are other offences which DO apply for poor conduct on the roads, just not "speeding", unfortunately "riding like an idiot" isn't one of them!
Ashley's suspect judgement as usual, clearly forgetting the white car would have been violation of the 1.5 metre rule if it tried to get past @ChaponaBike cyclist at that point. Rule H3?
Silvio cleaning camera which means not both hands were on the handlebars which is illegal the only time you are allowed to do this by law is when you are indicating to turn.
If only he could afford a car. 😀
How far are these cycling incident channels willing go for views of their posts? No doubt they provoke situations, but whats next, actually employing a car driver and staging incidents completely.
1:04, cammer does not give the other cyclist much room and overtakes when they themselves are being overtaken, cammer is a twat. 2:45, did the cammer signal right? 2:58 If the cyclist had been signalling right, should, as Ashely suggests, the Merc have waited for the cyclist to pass? Was the Merc braking due to 20 mph area? The cammer also puts themselves in a number of dangerous positions. What sometimes appears to be a must get in front overtake, could in fact be good planning for further down the road, that is not instantly obvious at the overtake and it can also turn out not be be an overtake, that does not lead to someone making ground and it appears as a must get in front overtake.
Typical bike rider arrogance, each and every one wants it all their own way.
Dangerously passes another bike, because he has to get in front. No thought about the safety of the other bike, or any willingness to slow a little and tuck in behind the bike.
Same in the congested traffic, squeezes between a bus & car. What would have happened if the car started to move as he tried to squeeze through?
Bike happily rides right to the front of the queue then holds everyone up. No consideration for the road users in front. He could have slowed down when approaching the lights, so as they changed, cars in front could safely move away.
First clip. What a numpty. To be honest Ashley it is good you calling them out but you are giving them what they want ... airtime, attention and notoriety.
But they don't want airtime, attention and notoriety from anyone outside their own circles.
@@AshleyNeal-JustCycling Not sure I catch your exact meaning here...
@@AshleyNeal-JustCycling they absolutely do. Attention is attention, doesn't matter if it's negative or positive.
@@chrisl1797 The cammers want their own social circles and hangout groups to see their videos because they are all like-minded and just support whatever the cammer does. They're all yes-people, and they encourage this dangrous behaviour without thinking critically whatsoever. They don't want people like Ashley to see their videos, because he keeps it real and calls them out on their dangerous behaviour.
@@InfinFox Yes. Thinking about it for a bit (I process things slowly sometimes) I realised what was meant. Glad you've confirmed it. Thank you. My opinion is increasingly in favour of banning such material from SM unless it is from professional instructors or a successful Operation Snap prosecution.
Another thing to mention in the first clip is the pov cyclist made a poor overtake on the other. He had no space but decided to do a close pass on that uninvolved cyclist, putting him in danger. The irony is he's complaining about being closely passed whilst closely passing the other cyclists himself.
Yep. It's the hitting the ground bit that usually hurts the most so it doesn't much matter what knocks you off your bike.
The bloke's a complete tool and I wouldn't be surprised if someone gets violent with him one day. Though I suspect he chooses carefully who he plays silly buggers with, his sort usually do.
To be fair that is probably the worst place I've ever seen for a two way bike lane.
There is a reason why vehicles should not close pass a cyclist - They create a slip stream caused by being aero-dynamic which can cause a cyclist to wobble, the faster the worse the situation. A cyclist doesn't create a slipstream of the same magnitude and wont cause another rider to wobble. Same situation occurs when lorries overtake cars on motorways.
Excuses excuses
@@bradfordzone5187bollox. You could get a pedal or a mirror caught up in the other bike, and cycling by it’s very nature causes a wobble which if not synchronised with the other cyclist will double the closed gap. And there’s the unexpected nature of close passes, it can make you jump. Stop making cycle excuses and learn to be a civilised road user.
"and stop doing the Jeremy" 😂
That made me smile as well.
I'm guessing Vine, not Clarkson. 😀
@@frankhaney8535 Clarkson? .. on a bicycle..? in London?.. He'd either have a heart attack at the effort, or be lynched!! LOL
@@frankhaney8535 Definitely not Clarkson. In fact he's even more anti-cyclist. He said once and I quote "they can fuck right off" 😂
i would suggest this is hypocrisy of ashley. no need for the comment which was sure to antagonise. follow his own advice this time i'm afraid.
Jeremy is his idol 😂
at 3:30 Mercedes possibly saw 20 speed marking on road?
Speed cameras.
I'm not sure the driver could see much with what look to be illegal tints on the windows.
Yes, and to that note, I wonder what Silvio’s speeds were like through the 20?
@@johnb8956why would that matter?
@@maskofsan1ty Because unexpected speed cuts down reaction times
The first clip looks like the ultimate make something from a non event
Yes, the driver was close when the cycle lane ended but, similar to ours up here, the lane just ends without good warning and the ending can be ( not really an excuse though) hidden in the nearside a-pillar. However, the driver realised they wouldn’t be able to make the turn so held back and was then blocked from turning. The beep perhaps unnecessary in this instance but it wasn’t an aggressive beep in my opinion and if the driver hadn’t explained the use I would’ve actually taken it as a “Oops, sorry buddy. Didn’t realise the turn was as close as it was”
I ride 2 days a week in C London. One of the things other cyclists do that annoys (and endangers) me no end, is choosing to overtake other cyclists at the WORST POSSIBLE TIME. They so often do it at traffic lights where everybody is already bunched up in the cycle lane (and people turning both left and right at the junction) and yet STILL try to squeeze through where you could hardly get a cigarette paper between one lane and the other let alone a bike. They also LOVE to try and muscle into the people on the left of them (I always stay to the left, hugging the curb keeping out of the way) to avoid the people coming towards them. I had to shout at a woman on Tues for almost knocking me off as she tried to squeeze through between me and the people coming the opposite direction (who were also overtaking). They love to shout at motorists about 1.5 meters but often give other cyclists less than 1.5mm when passing. Today I was driving along a stretch of road with a bike lane on the left. Completely empty as I'm driving along, but there's a Lycra lout steaming down the outside of me. He passes the car in front of me as traffic slows and sweeps across the front towards the bike lane and nearly hits a mountain biker who is just trundling along minding his own business and riding responsibly. These are the kind of people who give ALL road users a bad name.
Good post friend. You're clearly a responsible cyclist. Hats off to yo❤
@@suziforester TBH I don't understand why it's so rare that people think of their own safety and the safety of others. Surely the whole point of any travel is to get where you're going with the least possible risk of death to yourself or others...I can never understand why people race at great risk to themselves and others, just to get to a destination a few seconds earlier (if they make it at all). Even if I'm late for work, I'd rather explain to my boss why I'm late, than explain to the Police why I killed someone rushing to work.
@@caeserromero3013
I concur....enjoy the journey. Its a good journey if you arrive safe and well without incident
@AnthonyStafford-qx5hx How can that be accurate?
Most deaths on the roads are cause by car drivers, and most of the dead were inside a car, and the next biggest user group of dead people is pedestrians, then motorbike riders and lastly, bicycle riders.
Feel free to do some research prior to posting a comment.
Mercedes clearly slowed down for the speed camera on the opposite side which prompted the overtake "wanton and furious cycling" and the mercedes sped up after the camera....
On the first clip the driver should have seen the first cyclist and been slowing to stop in order to give him priority across the junction.
The second clip Silvio took a straight line due to the wet road. How fast was the silver car going after the roundabout ? It certainly looks more than 20 mph
"stop doing a Jeremy" - took me a second to realise you didn't mean Clarkson 😂
If it was the other Jeremy, it would be "stop being a Jeremy".
At first I had though Hunt
@@stu176mmm
Yes boss...just not spelled the same
I'm going to be honest, as a cyclist the biggest sin this chaponabike did was pass another cyclist very close without ringing his bell to tell him he's there.
Over 20 years ago, I got cross at a car pulling out from a Tesco, on the obligatory supermarket access roundabout. I tailgated them angrily for a kilometre until I realised there were kids in the car, I was being a dick, and it hadn’t caused any significant delay. Since then I’m way more chill…..it’s not worth it.
As the lyrics on a famous Disney film states “ let it go let it go “ , sorry cheesy but I had to .👍
A couple of clip hunters today. First one is just a bonehead. No idea what he thought was going on there.
Second clip, maybe the sun had a part to play. Long shadows pointing directly at the driver’s window of the Mercedes. Add in poor riding, possible reflection or glare off the damp roads and a rider with a clear ego problem and you’ve got a concoction for nonsense.
The oddest part is, it's not like they're out on a lovely country lane with the sun on their backs and some looney deliberately spoils their day. They're always in traffic, in town, in the rain, causing hassle and generally having a shit time. How not to be a cyclist.
And they constantly accuse everyone of not being real cyclists.
@DonaldDonaldson-ug9lp It's called a group ride, y'know, socialising while exercising while also getting fresh air and being in nature. It's good, you should try it.
@@hendrixinfinity3992collectively doing a Jeremy
@@johnrea2115 Doing a Jeremy is going out of your way to create or instigate a situation for content, not riding your bike with friends. Someone needs to grow up.
What? So you’re not a cyclist if you commute by bike?
1:08, people like this are infuriating. They go out of their way to cause trouble then blame everyone else when things go wrong.
I had seen the silvio clip and thought it was pathetic trying to make point. Ok the car entered but all silvio needed to do was exit in the right lane then tuck in behind
chaponabike close passed TWO other road users at once. and then had the audacity to complain about the car being close.
So many cyclists and motorists are now 'doing a Jeremy'. I think they're on some sort of power trip.
I looked at some of the cyling twitter stuff and wow it reminds me of dealing with flat earthers 😂
Don't know flat earthers.... the flat earth society has thousands of members from all around the globe.
Hi, Silvio Diego your 2nd video reviewed here...
2:37 You almost condone the guy pulling out ... the lines on the floor means give way to incoming traffic, which is strange cause at 3:00 you concede that the driver should have given way regardless...
3:16 'quick clean of the camera'... this is clearly not true, I'm barely pressing the button to save the highlight
3:30 I made a gesture? this is only an assumption? I assume you're making this assumptions to get more controversy and more views...
You clearly have not seen many of my videos yet you make a judgement that they all show poor riding and how 'not to behave' ..
from the 13 hundred videos I have on my channel you chose this one in which I admitted that I should not have lost my cool...
You Ashley are the one with thousands of subscribers, so I guess you picked up this video for views.
If this is a one off I’ll have a look at others you have posted after this to see whether you have changed for the better. Hardly for views as I put it on my second channel. Try to keep safe 👍
I think I might start with your latest upload ‘Good Place To Overtake’. It didn’t take me long, did it! Wow
ruclips.net/video/Uz7yPVNVmpM/видео.html
Regardless of the right and wrong, I find it pretty funny you don't see the irony of creating your own content based on opinionated, baseless comments on these clips of cyclists who you accuse of engineering events for content. 😂
Must get to destination trumps 'must get in front'. When commuting you are just losing time by having altercations, time you will never get back. Just clear the hazard and keep on.
I find cyclists that get involved with altercations to be so embarrassing. It is a bit silly.
it should be series, I'm sure there is plenty to analyse
Too many clips on -Twitter- X…not enough time 😁
I love the term engineered events. It is very accurate
With a username like chaponabike you can tell what the content is gonna be like!
What was that first one called again? Sounded like "Chav On A Bike"?😏😏
In the second clip you can see the shadow of the cyclist off his saddle and standing on his pedals to try and get as close as he can to the Merc to have the confrontation that follows.
Every single time I ride my bike I encounter multiple cars which fail to give way to me and close pass me. I simply keep riding as safely as possible and don't gesture / communicate with them at all. They clearly shouldn't have driving licenses but me telling them that isn't going to help anyone and if they hate bikes that much they may run me over if I antagonise them. I just smile and enjoy the fact I will be healthier and better off financially after my commute than they will be.
I dont cycle anymore. Im not well enough. But ive done milledge, country, city and town. Summer motor bike gloves with kevlar knuckles wracked on their passenger window soon gets you the distance they should be giving you.
@@steven482 I dislike you.
Brilliant video Ash. Completely sums it up in a positive way.
I'm glad someone is finally exposing these cyclists.
I watched some of Silvio's earlier You Tube stuff and he used to be a good, respectful rider, watching out for pedestrians, giving HGV's and busses plenty of room and picking out poor riding in others. Maybe he was losing views and decided to be more confrontational? Or perhaps this clip was a one off?
The first cyclist was bad but the driver was even worse and you didn't even criticise him at all. Even if the bad cyclist wasn't there he would have close passed the other cyclist and then left hooked him. Nearly dooring that other cyclist by stopping in the middle of the road and flinging the door open wasn't great either. And you talk about making the situation worse, what about getting out of the car. The driver could have just slowed down ready for his left turn and tutted to himself about the silly cyclist.
I love cycling but when i see these clips I just shake my head. So embarassing...
Filming for hits and likes……… usually anonymous cyclist.
In a fair number of these incidents, both or either are to blame. The difference being, the driver has a proven ability to control a vehicle, the vehicle has passed a roadworthiness test (MOT), VED has been paid and a statutory minimum level of insurance is in place. The vehicle can be traced back to a keeper and that keeper can be fined for not clarifying who was driving.
The argument put forward is that some or all of these rules and requirements are routinely ignored. If so, ANPR means the chase is on and the miscreant is pursued.
The cyclist is anonymous. No legal requirement for anything.
Level playing field, it is not.
Painful to watch, RUclips must take some blame paying people to get views!
Also regarding A Pillar incidents cyclists, motor cyclists must learn to check if they can see the drivers eye's if not they're probably maintaining the speed to be behind the A pillar, as per your recent video of the cyclist's crash.
1:53 goodness gracious me! Chaponabike is a bit of a [insert favourite insult of choice for people who create hassle and then play victim]
Glad I’m no longer on social media tbh, it’s getting worse as people fight for views
If the first was in such a hurry (overtaking), why then stop immediately after? Lack of logic!
This is shocking behaviour and totally unnecessary, watching this it’s easy to see why a lot of motorists have a dislike of cyclists, there are enough real incidents where a motorist doesn’t see a cyclist with out cyclists inventing them, first rule of cycling in a city is assume everyone has not seen you and give way to anything that can kill you, which is pretty much everything on the road, for me the second clip was by far the worst, going into the roundabout too fast and it’s wet, bikes do not like staying upright in the wet, if this guy had to brake hard fir a real incident he would have gone down or crashed into something 🤷♂️😡
So bored with these "cyclists" eroding empathy and basically making us a fair game punching bag for anyone having a bad day on the road.
24th October 2020 - Silvio has a similar issue doing the same thing on this very roundabout.
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The drivers in this clip were awful, but i really don't know why people make them into events. It never achieves anything.
Just slow down and you'll avoid the pointless road rage!
Some bad road use from everyone in this clip.
The 3rd clip starts on Beresford Street in Woolwich London SE18, heading NW, just before the junction with Macbean Street.
Yes, they are travelling on the A206 and the roundabout they are crossing is the A205/A2204 down to the ferry crossing. White building far side is the New Wine Church next to Deluxe Riverview.
@@AndiusPandius "Ferry Terminal" I think, calling it a fully fledged "Port" is giving it airs and graces above its station I fear.
@@ianmason. 🤣Duly edited!
What I like about the second one is.
He got out of the saddle, putting a bit of a shift to catch the car, and then cycled on the wrong side of the road to make a point. What a gent. Meaning even the cyclist coming from the opposite direction took a minor change.
And the first one. What a condescending gent. If he comes and and said he was a gent, I'd have nothing more than absolute admiration.
This... 99.9% of cyclists are mint. When I cycle, I don't want a close pass. But neither do I really need 1.5m. I mean, if I did. I probably shouldn't be cycling..
I think you do.
At say 18mph - not fast - you are running at 8m/s and a hazard can appear very quickly, say a pothole.
You need space to manoeuvre around that safely.
Equally the motor vehicle may swerve,
@@mattwardman I mean, you don’t. I like room, but having cars dart to the opposite side of the roads because they are scared of being too close/filmed and reported. Come on. I’m not saying a close pass. Different opinions etc. Back to the video. Are we saying the car in the first clip passed closely, technically yes. But come on, no normal cyclist would have cared.
@@philipjames3526
On 1.5m, it's simply yes - we do.
My experience is that a significant % of drivers are effectively asleep, and don't look beyond the end of their bonnet. When cycling, I always have a Pass Pixi (reflective speed camera type sign) on the back of my cycle, so I'm running Schrodinger's video cameras, and it makes a big difference.
If overtaking motor vehicles need to dart anywhere to give as much space to a cycle or motorbike as they would a car, it is not a safe overtake and they should wait. That's classic "Must Get In Front".
I can see no overtakes in the first clip; there is the other cyclist on a separated cycle track, and a motorist in the carriageway alongside. It would be better with a median, of course. If it is an overtake then the motorist is overtaking through a traffic calming feature, which is frowned on by the HWC.
The painted cycle lane is a mess; they increase collisions and casualties (we have the evidence) partly because they encourage driving to the near side of the lane. It would most probably be safer without it. I'd argue that that street should perhaps be one way, and the network adjusted.
Chaponabike obviously tightens it up too much.
BTW, I like your standing jump; I'm part owner of a Crossfit gym.
@@mattwardman If you are travelling so fast that you cannot anticipate a fixed hazard, you aren't paying proper attention according to the law. That works for all road users. No-one should be swerving suddenly. Cyclists don't pass wide either, yet a car could swerve.
@@fakecrusader I think you're missing it - in the scenario under discussion the cyclist has seen the fixed hazard and we have the 1.5m clearance to drive around it.
Motor vehicles swerve suddenly if the driver has not noticed something until the last minute, and they habitually go far faster than cycles.
Unfiortunately it is impossible to tell whether a random driver in a random vehicle will not swerve suddenly as they "should", or will even see something straight in front of their nose.
They drive into lamp posts, they drive into the front room of people's houses, they drive too fast into a setting sun when they should be at walking pace, they drive into pedestrian refuges, they drive straight through lights on red because they "do not see".
They drive into things directly in front of them - from pedestrians and cyclists right up to police vehicles in full livery with blues and twos running.
Then they lie to the police about what happened. Then they lie to the Court. Then they lie to themselves.
Vulnerable road users can't trust that, which is why we have the 1.5m rule. Fortunately people who violate it are more likely than ever to get 6 reward points to display proudly on their license, which is a very good thing.
Sorry for taking such a blunt position, but that's where I stand.
3:00
You certainly don't give way to both lanes when entering a roundabout in New Zealand.
There should have been no intersection of traffic in this encounter but the cyclist did an unsignalled lane change or at least a change into another roadway (different lane different roadway) where another vehicle is present.
It is not often you will see me criticising a cyclist over a car.
The one reason to give any praise to the cyclust is that they made themselves visible but they should have done that from the right of the left lane, not the left of the right lane.
Fully agree. I suspect it may even be yet another one of those local driving myths that the roundabout has to be entirely free before entering, given that multi-lane roundabouts are beyond the scope of the HC. It should be sufficient to ensure that the lane you wish to enter is free. Common sense also dictates that you try to avoid mid roundabout lane changes and if unavoidable owing to poor road design, you are always going to be the give-way vehicle. Little wonder that by far the majority of roundabout collisions in the UK occur at exit.
It has to be said that the British don't do roundabouts well.
Victim culture mixed with a sense of being better than all the rest of us that is it in a nut shell. Separate yourself from the majority, in this case car drivers get a little cult going and bitch about how nasty and horrible those car drivers are and how you are superior. Post it online so you can sit and read all the fanboys congratulate you and watch negative commentators get rounded on by your little gang. You get this in every sphere of life but especially amongst kids at school which a couple on here are. If this and riding around London peering into peoples cars to grass them into the police is your meaning of life something is seriously missing. If ever the phrase get a life had a meaning this is it slap in front of you here. We share the roads and not every encounter it text book.
You are clearly not.
Self-aware.
@@jadedferret6727 Interesting, so something in that triggered you.
@@issigonis975 Triggered no more To do with. your projection.
@@jadedferret6727 I don't know you so I will leave it there. A constructive criticism is worth a reply not simplistic attacks. Something I wrote upset you so you got personal I get it.
@issigonis975 Reread what you wrote in your Post and replace it with motorists🤦
Road safety clearly isn't your top priority Went out on the public highway.
Time for the cycling community to stand up and voice their displeasure of all these "engineered" videos. It will be an honest, careful rider who is hurt or maybe even killed when a short fused driver takes offence. I was taught to look out for all road users, and I started legally driving in 1972, when traffic was much lighter than today. Further, there were bicycles being ridden by workers going to work and children going to school, etc, and we didn't need legislation to leave safe passing distances. We had common sense and manners, something in short supply by all road users these days.
I agree, and whoever is commenting on these videos is pandering to the clicks as well. Why doesn't everyone get on a bike, then they would know stopping distances are not as good as cars with rim brakes. When drivers slam their brakes on Infront of you it is extremely dangerous for the cyclists. Something you wouldn't understand unless you ride a bike with rim brakes.
@tim-williams Tim, it's up to you to leave a big enough gap and maintain stopping distance. Do you want drivers to stop and check what brakes you're using before they react to hazards?
@@davetkd666
Cyclists...they want all their "rights" but no responsibility
@@davetkd666 no the highway code says the cyclist has priority over a car.
@@tim-williams no it doesn't, go read it properly.
I'm a keen cyclist and can't stand entitled cyclists.
3:22 the Mercedes was braking because there was a speed camera in a 20 mph zone, then both went on to exceed the speed limit after the camera had been passed, kept leap frogging each other until stuck behind a van.
Excellent analysis as always and I happen to concur.
Them versus us mentality.....
It really needs to end ASAP.
FYI @Ash - eventually got to view your upload with DCH and posted appropriately but it was at "Silly O'Clock" this morning 😂 lol.
I'm waiting for you and Mikey to find common ground but can't help but wonder if that will ever happen 😮
Love the last comment by Ashley .... stop doing a Jeremy, lol
Clarkson isn’t too bad nowadays though 🤔
That Silvio, cycling mikey and Jeremy vine are all w⚓️s
There was/is an Irish guy as well (Dub or Dublin I think was in the channel name), some of the stuff he pulled was ridiculous. I remember him chastising a lone female who'd broken down/flat tyre for stopping in a cycle lane and when told what was up effectively accused her of lying with no offer of help or assistance.
Chaponabike? More like Craponabike.
1:21 - Like any women, he's chosen this moment to figuratively try to cause a scene, as he's noticed cops
3:03 - I'll never pull out in these circumstances. That would be relying on the skills of others on the road, which would be sew-ee-side-all.
I do not see people become triggered if an overtake is done correctly. Not where I'm from. But when I dated a women from N. Ireland, those guys think you've slighted their manhood if you overtake. Triggered like kids around popping balloons.
"I'm a vulnerable road user and I'm going to try and start a road rage incident!"
- never seems like a wise idea for the vulnerable one to me.
Good thing the guy who opened his car and got out (I'm sure I've seen this classed as a definition of road rage in some countries, with psychological evaluation as the punishment in the most sensible ones) actually turned out to be mild mannered, or chickened out of starting a fight.
Those first two clips are so frustrating. When will these people understand that road use is supposed to be a cooperative not a combative/competitive endeavour?
The chap in the first clip must be from Cambridge, with that self entitled point proving attitude. It's common there. Never mind how he overtakes the other cyclist and puts himself in danger. Its everyone else problem not mine. I am in the right, it's MY right of way, Its MY road. MEMEMEMEMEMEME
1:53 goodness gracious me! Chaponabike is a bit of a [insert favourite insult of choice for people who create hassle and then play victim]
Glad I’m no longer on social media tbh, it’s getting worse as people fight for views
Fair analysis of all three clips, can’t fault your opinions there!
I ride & drive, and I drive “Big Boy” stuff, (artics), and I drive in a courteous and caring manner. If there aint room to pass safely, I aint passing, be that on the bike or in the truck.
I’m a cyclist (and driver) and in that first clip I think a decent driver (which I think most people are) could have seen the cyclist making a stupid move and fix thy cyclist’s mistake and give them room. It looks like the cyclist lost it because the driver didn’t fix the cyclist’s mistake like most people usually do for him. And because he’s probably done something like that so often, he thinks it’s usual for people to fix his mistakes.
Watching those first two clips, seeing how blissfully unaware of the danger these guys put themselves into picking fights with a metal box it occurred to me.... You probably wouldn't see a woman doing that sort if thing.
More like a knob on a bike
Who is the guy so I can call him a walk cyclest need a good right daw break
Initiating a problem on the roads for a camera should be a crime in itself, if it isn't already, the 'youre on YT mate' is redicularity of the highest order..
The irony of chaponabike complaining about the car close passing when he just close passed that other cyclist
I can think of some alternative words for 'chap'
The driver in the first clip handled the interaction perfectly.
To me he broke two rules. Don't blow your horn or get out of your car when someone does something like this, it will make things worse.
Not always getting out your car can often calm people @metromadness2016
Wrong; people shouldn't ever get out of their car.
I'm a motorbike rider and a bicycle rider; anyone, car driver or otherwise, that comes marching up to me with a stern expression and breaches a two metre exclusion zone gets a free trip to hospital.
If I had a car, I wouldn't get out of it to get in someone's face. I don't ever get of my bike to confront someone, no matter what has occurred.
Squeezes between the car and the other bike then complains about the space he put himself into... just be aware of what is around you! Beep deserved.
What the entitled idiots in the first 2 clips fail to realise is that THEIR behaviour affects how motorists view cyclists, and that the next cyclist the driver meets probably suffers.
Roads are shared, and if things are going to get better then this kind of rubbish has to be stopped. All it does is dilute the message of genuine bad driving by highlighting bad cycling and aggressive stupidity.
Silvio has to learn to use hand signalling instead to put whole blame on others. He was in the wrong lane and confused the driver. If he signalled that he is changing the lanes and the driver ignored it then it's cyclist's behaviour acceptable. Both are the blame and the kids stuff after the incident was mindless