Those clips are quite shocking. It's riders like that that give the rest of us cyclists a bad name. I have learned what to look out for when I am driving but I think I already knew NOT to do any of those things when i am cycling!
No they are just idiots. Just the same as you can't tar all car drivers or white van men the same. Idiots in every walk of life and no need to have this collective behavioural group mentality.
@@wibbley1 From my own experience, as both a cyclist and motorist, I feel that the prevalence of this kind of cycling is dependent on where you are at the time. I live on the outskirts of a large city and hardly ever see such behaviour but when I go into the city is becomes commonplace. Maybe it's the (more hectic) pace of life in the city that encourages people to ride and drive like this?
The numpty in the last clip. I honestly believe he was trying to push the van out of his way because he feels he has a right to be there and the van doesn't. The laws of physics are going to catch up with him one day and I suspect the result will be far from pretty. All it would have taken there is for the van driver to go "What's that noise?" turn their head left to look, nudge their steering wheel a fraction as their shoulders turned and that guy would have been mixed up in the fence, the cones, and the van's wheels. Utter, utter stupidity.
yep, it's either that or the worst skitch I've ever seen to be fair, with what looks to have been a decent cycle path dug up for building works on the left, I would have been tempted to ride down the empty pavement on the right.
I agree with you though I suspect that he puts his hand on the van for safety: If the van veers toward him, his extended arm will help to ensure that he automatically steers away from the van. Obviously this is a high-risk practice to begin with but you see some "extreme" cyclists use this technique.
@@shm5547this is my video clip. The path on the left is a cycle path. Now reinstated since the construction work. The path on the right is also a cycle path. We were travelling at nearly 30mph towards the end of the clip. I turn off once the clip ends however the cyclist slowed and positioned himself in primary almost as though he was trying to force a reaction from the van driver.
As a regular cyclist (and occasional driver), I agree 100% that the law on phone use while driving should be extended to cyclists. I would even go one step further and apply to pedestrians when crossing a road.
The only time I have been in a collision with another cyclist was with someone on their phone. Just swerved across the the cycle path; didn't even see me right in front of her.
@@simonharris4873 I know! PS It's the seats. They squeeze the balls, that increases the pressure in the spinal fluid. That moves up to the brain, where it causes problems in the eyes. It's the cause of red-green colour blindness. It also lowers the IQ by 30 points. Just watch any set of lights and you can see the clear evidence of the effect. Another effect, clearly vision related, is wearing anything fluorescent. Particularly fluorescent pink.
4:18, what I absolutely love about this clip is that, after almost being front-ended, the cammer calmly checks his right again to see if the gap he was aiming for was still there. Which it wasn't. Good on him for not just pulling out!
I've cycled twice daily, most weekdays for nearly two decades. I also drive a car. I've got to say, Ash, your rundown of cyclists in this video is absolutely on point! I see this often from cyclists; as much as I see it from motorists. Your assessments are always completely fair and warranted IMO. Cheers for the vid!
Do you not feel though that half of the cyclists features were just local 15 year old boys who were out aimlessly wasting time and playing with traffic? And delivery riders too, they're such a different category of bike user cos they're so screen-focused and pressed for time. Felt it was a bit unfair to group them with commute cyclists like you and me. Where we consciously experience cycling as a road user.
Firstly I want to thank you for changing the way I cycle as a result of the lessons I learned from your videos! I'm quite the avid cyclist but I must admit my attitude has been rather poor over the years. I used to focus heavily on being "in the right" rather than being safe or responsible. For example if a car cut me off on a roundabout I used to want to really stick it to them, but after watching your videos I have changed my attitude to such situations. Especially the question of "have I been seen?" really helped me be more responsible (for my own safety) while riding and give me more perspective. I think that the hierarchy of road users does feed into cyclists not looking out for their own safety as much as they should. I think it causes some cyclists to rather be "in the right" than safe. I also think it gives some cyclists the feeling of being untouchable. After all the motorist is at fault if they hit the cyclist, even if the motorist was caught out completely by a cyclist being irresponsible (an alternative outcome to the clip at 0:28 comes to mind). Something I have been noticing more and more whenever I cycle is that young people have been using their phones while riding. This is often accompanied by them having neither of their hands on the handlebars. This complete disregard for their personal safety is concerning and I couldn't imagine what a motorist would go through if they hit one of those cyclists. Keep up the great content Ashley! Thanks for making me a better rider and driver!
I'm willing to bet the hierarchy of road users stuff hasn't changed cyclists' behaviour that much either: most of them likely aren't aware it's even a thing. Those driving dangerously need no excuse to do it.
A general "qualifier comment": I realise that my various comments for this video are primarily from the perspective of a car driver, even though this is a "Cycling" channel. Still, it illustrates a good point that this channel is a great learning tool for both cyclists AND motor vehicle drivers.
@@guronanak9218as we have to often, I once was cycling fine then an idiot van driver overtakes me with his side mirror like 8" above my handlebars, not even keeping moving out so he avoid trying to hit my bars
Going up a hill in torrential rain a cyclist grabbed onto my car to pull him up, I screamed at him and he mouthed bad words and spat at my vehicle. The roads are full of idiots.
Yes maybe they were unfamiliar with the road and assumed the straight ahead had priority only realising last second their error. We are all human..thankfully no injuries or damage to property.
Totally agree.I think I must be one of the few who stops at red lights,and never uses a phone or headphones when cycling.Was actually following a lycra rodie at a safe distance when he pulled out without looking to over take a bus at its stop,the proceded,with no hand signals,to decide to almost come to a stop in the middle of the road,the make a sharp left turn right in front of me,wiping me out.He of course was fine.I explained to him,after getting up off the tarmac,that its bad enough having to look out for homicidal Uber drivers,without having to do the same for fellow cyclists.
A cyclist on his phone gave a scare to me, another cyclist, at the weekend. The cycle route is a narrow shared surface between garden hedges and road. There’s little room to get past cyclists coming the other way (and even worse on weekdays when sharing with pupils for two secondary schools and two primary schools going in both directions). This young man decided to come along at high speed while reading his phone. Just as he came near me he wobbled or was distracted and headed straight at me. I was relieved he recovered in time as I had nowhere to go, and if he had knocked into me I would have been under the wheels of the traffic next to me.
I allways love to watch your videos about driving and cycling. As of now all i do is ride my bicycle, and whenever i watch your clips; my attitude and awarness increases. I allways try to do the right thing by riding safely, but sometimes i forget myself, then i watch those clips and i see of what I could have done better. Thank you for those videos, they are making a difference. Be safe y'all.
As cyclists we can make seemingly well-timed moves that give us a margin of safety to cross against oncoming traffic. I try to avoid the temptation to do it however, because drivers don’t know if you see them or if you’ll clear in time before they hit you. I’d rather delay my journey by a few seconds and avoid giving a driver a cardiac arrest.
Motorcyclists make a similar argument. I once pulled out knowing I was going to pull into the middle of the road into a filtering position. The oncoming car did an emergency stop. It was a moment of realisation. If you cause someone else to change speed or direction for you, you're doing it wrong. And it doesn't matter if you have seen the other person and planned around them, if they don't know, they'll plan to evade. We're seeing a lot of people who would have got 50cc scooters purchasing electric bikes. Why wouldn't you? No insurance, MOT, training... As a result they're not getting a day of training and L plates with insurance and points on a licence for screwing up. No traceability, no penalty... It's basically 4chan on the roads.
@@DemiGod.. Agree! It's a bit like free-solo climbing without safeties. "For years, every move he made was perfect and brilliant. Then he misjudged by an inch and now he's dead."
If only more thought and acted like you. I would also argue that while the cyclist may feel they have the time and space to safely complete a maneuver, others may not be as comfortable with such "slim margins." What would happen should, gods forbid, the cyclist fall ? Anything could happen to cause the cyclist to fall : an unseen patch of water or ice; debris seen at the last second; mechanical failure of the bike (eg: broken chain, pedal, etc.); a sudden gust of wind; an unanticipated blinding glare reflected off a window. Would the cars be able to stop in time ?
Why would anyone assign their safety to another person? Make an error or deliberately break the rules and expect others to correct the issue? Crass stupidity! If a driver hits them because they did not have time to respond. Yes they will suffer guilt for the remainder of their lives. The idiot that absconded from taking care leaves a family that suffers, but for them...................................................! Come on, when you check yourself in the mirror in the morning, remember the person looking back at you wants to do the same tomorrow.
I wouldn't feel any guilt if it were the other person's fault, I would be quite chuffed that I got to help out with natural selection. As long as I don't suffer any penalties in court, and my vehicle isn't damaged, then it's all good on my end. People shouldn't feel guilty about such things, that's not natural. I wonder what makes some people feel that way.
Entitlement. Try pointing it out on any video posted by a cyclist and all you get is "STOP VICTIM BLAMING" "THEY SHOULDN'T BE DRIVING" etc etc. They'll do anything other than admit that it was possible for the cyclist to have avoided the conflict in the first place.
3:20 that was obviously careless and inconsiderate cycling but it should be noted that The Highway Code says cyclists may pass on the left with caution. Also, there is indeed legislation regulating the way you pass cyclists coming towards you (which wasn't relevant in this situation however) - the law against driving without due care and attention.
1:19 Demonstrates well the pointlessness of the shared use pavements that appear to be becoming common in new builds. Cyclists must slow at every single junction to be safe. Motorists must give way under the new Highway Code rules. Everyone is slowed down and inconvenienced, and importantly risk is actually increased. If no cycle lane had been built, the cyclist would be on a quiet road and no danger or inconvenience would be caused to anyone.
Imagine my surprise, when a few weeks ago, I was confronted by a cyclist, aimlessly riding around in circles on a dual carriageway. I was exiting a roundabout at the time.
I think the second one at 0:24 was definitely intentional. They look to be coasting to the edge of the intersection and then make a split second decision "I can make that" and start pedaling hard. Personally I learned to stop doing that around 2005 I think. Not sure about the date but I do remember the moment. I was waiting to cross the main road and when a gap in cars that looked big enough arrived I started to go. I was on a recumbent, right foot on the road, left clipped in. Left foot pushed, bike started moving, right foot lifted, clipped in on first try. To get out of there as fast as possible I used both legs to put as much power into it as possible, using my back against the seat to push even harder than standing on a pedal would do. The chain broke when I got to full power and now I was slowly coasting through the middle of a busy road with cars approaching from both sides. I have never felt more exposed and powerless on a road before. Nothing I could do but wave appologetically to all the drivers who had to stop and wait for me to get off the bike and walk it away, chaing dragging behind it uselessly. Lets just say I don't do these "well timed" maneuvres since then 🙂.
My chain slipped when crossing a dual carriageway in Austria last year - I needed a new pair of underpants afterwards. I am always super super careful now just in case it happens again!
I don't think these people in this vid on the pushbikes have any idea about the highway code, full stop. These are your John boys of the motoring world.
Phone use whilst cycling should be illegal like it is in NL, but in reality it wouldn't make a difference. Going through red is illegal as a cyclist. Riding on the pavement is illegal as a cyclist. Nothing would change.
@@Robert-yw5ms It is the law in the UK The problem is with the police. For example, an officer on Thursday told me they must ignore red light jumpers who don't stop. Now I've got an FOI out for that information, with his ID in it so the met can check.
@@adenwellsmith6908 I can understand why. It would look both stupid and comical for a copper to be running down the road chasing a bike whilst yelling 'Oi I want a word with you'. Bikes stop for nothing & nobody, why would they stop for a copper? City of London plod recently did a red light jump initiative. Caught over 1000 bikes. Google for details.
I really don't think the heirarchy changes have made any difference to the way most people riding a bike behave. For those, like the one you mention at 1:10 that just ride out, clearly have little to no care for their own safety, let alone care or knowledge about any highway code changes that have hardly been publicised. I've personally not noriced any changes in behaviour since the code changes. Both before and after there are numpties that have a surprising lack of self preservation.
At around 0:33 when you are following the priority road around a blind-ish right hand bend and there's a side road to your left. I call this the "cross over situation" and am always on very high alert for this sort of thing. Specifically because oncoming traffic will often commit to turning into the side road before they can properly see what's coming around the "priority bend". Very similar recent footage from a so called "dash cam channel" where the cammer was apparently driving a US style police show car in the UK (complete with nudge bars) and collided with an oncoming van doing pretty much what the cyclist did in this clip. In fact, for a moment, I thought it was the same junction. Similarly, if I am driving in the direction of the cyclist in this clip and want to turn right just off what for me is a left hand bend, I will make sure I first move sufficiently around the bend to see what's oncoming before committing to my right turn.
A cyclist i was following recently, rode through a red light. As the traffic lights to our right had now turned green, the cyclist realised he was about to be struck by a vehicle passing through the green traffic light. The cyclist ended up stopping in the road until the vehicle from the right had passed him and then rode around the back of the vehicle.
Driver of the car still gets blamed. In one local crash, a stupid person on a bike didn't stop at a give way line and hit the driver's door on a car and died as he didn't wear a helmet. That car driver was arrested at scene and charged with causing death by careless driving. It went a week before a trial and CPS dropped the case due to offering no evidence. It was done to please the family who set up a tacky shrine obstructing the pavement. Most families would be upset and angry, but the person to be angry with has gone, so why direct it at innocent members of the public. The car was only going 20mph in a 30mph and police jumped at the chance of prosecuting a 70 year old without ANY investigation. The dents were in the side of the car clearly showing the driver had passed the junction when the cyclist struck the vehicle. Had it been the front I can see why they might have arrested to find facts. Too much of this goes on, the highway code was only changed to shift personal responsibility and allow for no investigation prosecutions as there are far too many pedestrians walking in front of vehicles and idiots on bikes injuring themselves. There are no resources to investigate, so the law is now prove your innocence, a total reversal of what it should be. Your guilt should be proved in English Law. We have allowed this to be eroded.
I use the roads on everything from a cycle to a 44tn HGV and my own safety is my own priority. Self preservation is my #1 when travelling on the roads I want to get home to my family as much as the driver/rider next to me. So I shall never understand how people can be so blissfully unaware
5:48 Oncoming cyclist with no lights & in dark clothing. Don't know if you've watched @CycleGaz Ashley, he used to do a 'Silly Cyclists' series on his channel, mainly London, which were very 'eye-opening' at times but then as now his videos are very good at showing a number scenarios (some pointed out by you as either from a car or bike) - his last one was highlighting Rule 183 and how it's possible to assess which drivers are not following it.
you have to have only one inattentive motorist to take you out, even when equipped with safety gear, like lights and reflective harness/clothing, as I found out the hard way a long time ago, I was lucky to have survived that crash, my ponytail actually cushioned the back of my skull to some extend. I since then started wearing a helmet whilst cycling. But there's no excuse to go out at night wearing dark clothing. Then you're asking for trouble.
@@techjunkie68smusicandtech56 As difficult as it might be to think it but it's not normally personal or anti bike, just plain bad driving. Few year back I had a car turning right out of a fuel station T bone me because he didn't see me, I was driving a large red Land Rover in day light at 20mph, he hit the side hard enough to push 2 tonne of vehicle 10ft across the road with a Maestro, no one was injured although I expect he had whiplash later. For me it was an insurance claim, if it had been you on a bike its unlikely to have ended well and almost certainly would have involved an ambulance. Police attended and I believe he later voluntarily gave up his license at the request of his family, a moment earlier and I would have hit into the driver door which even though I was only doing about 20mph would likely to have resulted in injuries at least. Some people either just don't look or sometimes can't see, as you say the best safety gear in the world won't stop that but the more visible a rider (or vehicle) is the less likely it is to happen and the odds move a bit more in your favour.
@@sf2201I ride a bike for commuting and shopping and everything else, own a car and a tractor and I'm a dreaded white van driver for my wages. Motor bike mirrors on my bike, always have a bright permanent flashing front light, a separate powerful constant beam headlight for night time, two very bright flashing taillights and another on the back of my helmet plus always wear a reflective hi-vis vest at least. The cyclists in videos like this behaving like flies darting in random unexpected directions or without any perception of the danger they are causing drives me mad whether I'm on two wheels or four. But also for all of my safety precautions and behaving as responsibly as I can on a bike, the amount of stupid, inattentive, reckless or sometimes just deliberately aggressive and dangerous things drivers have done is beyond counting. Obviously the latter category are the worst. We all make mistakes. I'm a long way from being perfect. But the funniest or saddest thing is the reckless cyclist who complains about reckless drivers but is also one of the most reckless drivers themselves around cyclists when behind their own wheel. It should be a meme. But to be fair, 98-99% of all drivers are generally doing the best they can apart from the occasional lapse. Mostly it's not a big deal if everyone doesn't make a Jeremy Vine big deal out of something totally avoidable. On two wheels your constant mantra has to be, defensive, defensive, defensive.
Love the point about why do cyclists put themselves in these situations. I've been saying for ages, if motorists are expected to give cyclists the same room they'd give a small car, then cyclists shouldn't be allowed to squeeze into gaps a small car wouldn't be able to.
Roads have been designed for motor vehicles and make it harder to move around on a bicycles. This then breeds a lot of behaviours you see in the clip. Cycling involves physical effort, more so when stopping and restarting and people naturally conserve effort. And without a high top-speed, journey times can easily double when you are compliant to all the traffic rules.
It's not idiocy, it's unaccountability. They know it's always the driver that's blamed, so the driver will have to hold back. You can thank the geniuses that came up with the user hierarchy for making roads unsafer for everyone
I think it is a good idea to do the theory test online, i do it every now and then sometimes i fail on what to do around pedestrians and cyclists, the answers are not always clear. i pass more than i fail but it is sometimes not a clear cut answer. i also read the highway code and sometimes it is contradictory in my opinion.
Yes! The new hierarchy rules have definitely made cyclists more careless. When you make person A responsible for the safety of person B, person B will behave recklessly because he knows person A will be held responsible for his recklessness. I would think this would be obvious to everyone.
It's difficult to say whether some of these incidents are a direct result of cyclists knowing they now have greater priority due to the "new" rules or whether they would have done these kinds of things anyway. I have a feeling many cyclists aren't even aware of the new rule changes, even though they are there are for their own benefit. After all, many pedestrians aren't aware of the changes either. As noted when you correctly give pedestrians priority at junctions...and yet they still end up waiting with a blank look on their face.
@@PedroConejo1939 There must have been some kind of magnetic field we both picked up in the PNW that makes our thought processes strikingly similar! I've noticed this happening on multiple occasions.
It's basically impossible to say without actually interviewing the relevant parties. Anything else (either way) is mere supposition. As a cyclist and a pedestrian i'm aware of the changes but still pretty much act the same (which is to say, i'll give the big metal box priority unless and until they make it _very_ clear they're giving it to me instead). But then I always look both ways when crossing a one way street too so maybe I just have trust issues :).
At around 3:24 re the "positive" part and the comment "They're more likely to be seen out here rather than the left side". I'd add "They're more likely to be seen with a cycling headlight on in daylight too. A rear light in daylight wouldn't hurt for rear visibility either, as well as a high vis cycling vest". After all, cars have daytime running lights and motorcyclists have been riding on dipped headlight for decades. Cyclists are even easier to miss than cars and motorcyclists.
The Highway Code only advises cyclists (and motorcyclists and other drivers) to use lights in dull daytime weather (in addition to the requirement at night or when visibility is seriously reduced)
@@QiuEnnan Why is it important for us to remember it's a personal choice? That's for the police and lawyers clearing up afterwards to remember, so they don't incorrectly prosecute the corpse.
Last one from my local town. I cycle along that part of road most days after leaving hospital. Its actually a really nice shared cycle path 😂 not sure what that bloke was thinking
There was a fatal collision involving a child at that first junction many years ago. This is right next to where I live, and that junction is prone to crashes often.
At 5:50 you are assuming she didn't look, but she did. When the road is wide enough cyclists can enter a road making a left turn because the vehicles do not ride up against the kerb. There is always that gap and her attention was focused on sliding into it.
the best thing about cycling is that is cheap and open to anyone... which makes it one of the fairest and most equal forms of transport ever. ...the worst thing about cycling is that is cheap and open to anyone. In places where cycling is successful bicycles are treated like pedestrian transport. Kept safe and secure away from more dangerous vehicles, by road design. In the UK we will never see this. So we have the worst of both situations.
In the UK, drivers only consider people on bicycles to be fellow road users when they do something wrong, like ride without lights or ride through a red light. Until then, they are an inconvenience that shouldn't be on the road because they are too slow, they get in the way, they don't pay road tax and they don't have insurance.
One thing people don't realize (neither drivers nor pedestrians nor cyclists themselves) is that riding a bicycle in "sport" mode, i.e. road bike, MTB, not granny on an E-Bike, your body is basically in fight or flight mode. You have much greater awareness of your surroundings, reaction times are faster. Many actions cyclists make that are surprising and sudden to other road users are perfectly fine for the cyclist, who is much more agile.
I was going to say the same thing. Although I have passed a cyclist near a junction when the junction was clear but then a car emerged (my poor judgement to which I have held my hands up and accepted my error), I wouldn't try to attempt a pass while a vehicle is waiting and already over the line
I wouldn't have chosen this point to overtake either. In order to overtake, the driver would have needed to signal, which might have been confusing to the driver waiting to pull out or, indeed, anyone thinking about crossing the road ahead, who then might have reasonably have assumed that our driver was going to turn right. The golden rule must surely be to not overtake at a junction. To be honest, I'm surprised Ashley didn't point this out.
Genuine question regarding bicycles filtering: Is it really safer for them to cross the flow of traffic twice in order to overtake on the right? Bearing in mind that the second time, when crossing back to the left, the cars will likely be starting to move again? What do you think?
Yes its safer. Most drivers check there right mirror more than there left plus cyclist has a better view of oncoming traffic that may want to turn right plus the driver can also see the cyclist better than if they are on the left filtering. Lets say a bus has stopped before a junction and you want to turn rigjt into the junction. What side would you prefer the cyclist to filter left where you cant see them of the right where you can see them. Saying that when filtering you can't go full speed with no regard
It really depends on the traffic conditions. When I'm filtering I'll be continually assessing which side is safer. That said, if you're in a situation where you're filtering, then the centre of the lane is often going to be the safest position for the cyclist to be in once the traffic starts flowing again, not the left of the lane.
We have a class of vehicle sharing the road driven by people who may never have had a lesson, no requirement to know the rules and laws, let them be completely unidentifiable and give them priority.
I ride to work 2 days a week in C London. Clint's are the worst. I stop at every light, not just because it's the rules but because I'm nearly 50 and need the breather. But 99% of cyclists don't stop, no matter what. Yesterday on way home saw a Lime biker with headphones jump out of a side street on a red, right across the front of a blue lighted, siren wailing ambulance. He saw and heard NOTHING and was INCHES from death. Pedestrian waiting at the lights screamed in fright, it was that close. Lime biker oblivious. The ambulance was moving in the opposite direction to me and I heard the siren and waited for it to pass. Lime biker couldn't hear the siren due to headphones AND didn't look before jumping a light on a side road and emerging onto a MAIN road...
I've seen one idiot cycling along with no hands on the handlebars, and using his phone; texting I think. Then there's this other idiot I've seen doing the same thing at 5:30am when it was still fully dark. This was on a cycle path, but he did not have any lights at all. Along this stretch of road there isn't any street lighting at all.
I think the question about priority making cyclists less responsive is a question worth asking. But it can be better placed, the cyclist's either side of that question are not the type who'd even know about cycling rules, let alone changes
Since the changes, the ones that have changed the most are pedestrains, they dont bother looking anymore, just blindly cross junctions. I find it shocking when a mother does that with a pram or a young kid on the dangrous side as as not her that will get knocked down first.
when i was young in the 70s we had to do Cycling Proficiency Test , and there used to be adds with the green cross man for children to watch , why dont they have them anymore if they are so concerned about saftey
My takeaways as a cyclist are: high viz clothes; helmet; extra running lights. I don't ride with electronics, but i do use my ears and what has caused my closest calls are battery cars that come too close. How many times do i have impatient motorists passing me a foot away from my handlebars when they could wait for a safe place.... i could make a whole video series of those. Fact is, we're glorified pedestrians on trolleys, and just like pedestrians - dogs that spook on the lead, children who run amok, mistakes happen - road bumps that throw the bike, wind that pushes you sideways, rain that obscures your vision; i'm glad responsible motorists are looking out.
Honestly, I'm convinced that 90% of bad cycling is simply because the cyclist is so desperate to preserve momentum that they'll risk almost anything to avoid having to brake and then pedal to regain speed. Driving downhill along a narrow street recently, a lycra lout emerged from a side-road at speed, moved onto the "wrong" side of the road to avoid parked cars and started up the hill. I slowed right down and moved as close to the kerb as possible (to make it as safe as possible for him to pass) and got a thump on my roof as thanks. Unfortunately, the car behind me failed to leave sufficient space so the lycra lout had to stop immediately after hitting my roof, right next to my open window. I very politely asked "Can I help you?" and he replied "Didn't you see me coming?" I said I saw him coming on the wrong side of the road and asked if he thought he should have waited for the oncoming traffic. He replied "How am I supposed to stop while riding uphill?"
The Ambulance driver, just like all energency service drivers responding to an emergency have to go through junctions carefully as they could be held responsible if there was an accident. So, that cyclist didn't hold them up that much.
As a leg user not a battery user, id have coasted through that red the 3 went through. But as for the cyclist holding the van, that was him feeling distance, he was holding the A frame also, thats up a really nasty incline and he has to keep his speed up, its pain if he doesnt. It ok for a cyclist to pass at what ever distance they chose, they can see whats next to them, its not ok for cars and larger metal boxes to bully cyclists into the gutter when something is coming the other way.
Some really shocking clips here, its worrying how many seem to just not bother looking one bit, that UK law change seems to have given some the opinion they dont need to look out for their own safely which is craziness
Maybe I missed Ashley talking about it, but did he miss the cyclist with no lights on the right side at 5:47? Or am I seeing things? :D Excellent video as always!
EDIT: Flow of the ambulance at 5:17. The Ambulance had to slow down for this junction. IT would be crazy if they had tried to cross it with high speed. The bicyclist was wrong using their phone and proceeding. BUT, be real mr Neal, he did not disrupt the flow. Or did you expect the ambulance to go full speed over the junction? And the rest: Using the phone on a bike in the Netherlands is illegal. Does it stop the stupidos to use their phone while on the bike? NOPE!!! So what good does that law do if the people who are supposed to enforce this law are not doing so because they are already overwhelmed with other activities/stuff? If the police are not even able to handle real crime, how can we expect them to enforce laws like not using the phone on the bike? Heck, mr Neal, i will do you a favor. I will count the people driving their cars on the roads and using their phones. I will count them all up for just 1 day. Do not be surprised if i reach a count of at least 250, but i reckon even more. People simply do not care. Because the seatbelt will save them. The airbag will save them. The law will save them, even if they are dead because of the collision/accident. And a person who did not want to cause any accident but did because of silly behavior from others on their bike, they will be send to jail. The world is upside down in that kinda legislation. The world is upside down if people on cycles think they own the roads. And clearly sanctioning does not help. It does not help to stop people from using their phone. It does not help to stop Russia from winning the war in Ukraine. Sanctions are nonsense. If we are ever going to take back the globe, and have a civilized society where people care about one and other, we will have to start by accepting the truth. We are animals. And just like in the wild, a wolf is not sanctioned by barks and other wolfs staring and barking. A wolf is sanctioned the way it should be done. Discipline. A bite. A fight. And if they don't see the light, then they have to leave or will at the end of the fight have died. (dutch guy. If make the no sense, ask the question) By protecting people in traffic the way we are doing now is making things worse for everyone on the roads
Some of these clips are shocking, and highlights a few issues on the bad cyclists, I’ve seen down the years: 1. There is definitely an element of among the bad cyclists who think they are exempt from anything related to awareness or even rudimentary aspects of the Highway Code..the amount of times I’ve seen cyclists go through red lights, in busy city centre areas, is staggering… 2. I still find it ridiculous that anybody, who has never so much as even flicked through the Highway Code, can still get on a bicycle, and go out on the road: no mandatory test, no checking as to road worthiness of bicycle, no requirement of insurance in case of accident…nothing.., 3. And, the parts showing cyclists checking texts on their mobile phone, while cycling in a busy city centre, again seems to demonstrate the attitude of “I’m a cyclist, so I’m exempt from following the rules”… 4. A cyclist can commit an offence or cause an accident on the road, but, 9 times out of 10, unless they are stopped there and then by the Police, there is actually nothing stopping them from cycling away, never to be seen again…a vehicle doing the same can be identified by their registration, not so for a cyclist… Something seriously has to change, I’ve seen some brilliantly aware cyclists, but there are serious flaws in both the mindset of the element of bad cyclists… While there are of course bad motorists, it is a case of them doing the test etc, and then picking up bad habits, that get worse and worse over the years…but at least there’s a test… With cyclists, there isn’t even a mandatory test to start with, so, it’s no wonder that there is a mindset of “feeling exempt from the rules” among the bad element of cyclists..
At around 4:15 (blink and you might miss it. Pause the video to see) > I'm wondering what's the van doing on the wrong side of the road right up to a T junction. And no, it's not one way, as denoted by the "single dotted" section of the Give Way lines across the right hand part of the junction. Plus it's after dark, so even with no junction, "wrong side" parking would be illegal anyway. Plus it's literally right AT the junction corner.
These videos (as great as they are by the way) in my opinion fuel the constant hate debate between motorists and cyclists. This shows how good some drivers can be and how terrible some cyclists can be but there are plenty of other videos that show the opposite. There is blame on both sides but I think videos like this show that the decision to enforce the hierarchy of road users was the wrong one. The moment you take away any sort of responsibility from either side there will be accidents. Imagine if the shoe was on the other foot and cyclists had to give way to motorists. There would be a massive rise in collisions. Great video, something for us all to think about
Hi Ashley I might have mentioned this before but once more for the kiddies, the new rule for driver is to allow one and a half metres when passing cyclists, this is not directional!, if what you say is correct it would state allow that space when overtaking not passing. I do understand that many people now believe that words can be re-defined in what ever way suits them and crusty old pedants like me are to me ignored. My own point of view relates mostly to the way I would feel if and when I am the driver involved in an incident where somebody else is seriously hurt, that feeling will be in no way modified by who's fault it all was. While these highway code 'rules' are sensible and reasonable the central issue of personal responsibility is always paramount. Cheers, Richard.
Where is that in the code? I could only find in rule 163 "As a guide: leave at least 1.5 metres when overtaking cyclists at speeds of up to 30mph, and give them more space when overtaking at higher speeds". (That was looking in the online version.)
@@tomhollins5303 Hi Tom Hollins, thank you very much for your relevant and appropriate comments, I decided to go and look at that part of the Highway Code myself to check and sure enough you are correct!, I don't know where I gort my idea from in the first place but it is possible that I made the same mistake many of us make when we think we understand the meaning of rules and try to make good sense of them. On reflection I still think the rules should include safe passing from the opposite direction but as things stand I got this one wrong!. Cheers, Richard.
This should really be on the motoring channel because the cyclists who ride like this will not change their behaviour because of this video. Some motorists (most are already aware) on the other hand may benefit from it. I commented similarly a few months ago, I think few people will benefit from this. The intention is good but the effect minimal I suspect.
Disagree wholeheartedly Graham. I put plenty of content on the main channel how motorist should act around cyclists. Mainly my audience on the other channel is appreciative of proper road use so the argument could be made of driving fails being pointless there also. Even if there is one point from this video that a cycling viewer sees and implements into their riding for the good, that is positive.
@@AshleyNeal-JustCycling I think a lot of the motoring content causes pause for thought in even the most experienced drivers. I suggest that the vast majority of the viewers of the cycling channel would not cycle in such a way as those in the videos, perhaps with the exception of the red light jumping road cyclists. I do agree though that if only one cyclist changes their behaviour and as a result avoids serious injury or worse, then it is worth it.
Due to health issues I cant cycle no more but I always stuck to the left side of the road or on a cycle path. People have got to remember life is not the game GTA if you die your not coming back to life, You only have one life (REMEMBER THAT)
The sad thing here as a motorist who drives 30,000 miles per year for my work and I cycle 8000 miles per year, these cyclists Tar everyone with the same brush, it’s worth noting not everyone rides like this, however seeing this gives me a good understanding of why nearly all motorists hate cyclists, sadly videos like this do nothing to change that mindset, we only ever see the worst in these sort of videos, and no one even considers riders that are respecting the Highway Code and other road users, I guarantee when I get in my car to go to work this morning I also see motorists doing something stupid within the first minute of driving, the common denominator here is Human beings, not cyclists, not motorists etc, it’s just people and in most cases people are not capable of being on the roads safely!
To be fair, this is the "Cycling Fail" series - the point is to highlight bad cycling. The "Nice Cycling" videos (which there are currently more of) exist to showcase the good cycling. Also I strongly disagree that "nearly all motorists hate cyclists". I think the vast majority have no strong feelings about them either way and just see them as other road users they need to share space with. I often see bad cyclists and bad drivers but the vast majority of our time on the road is uneventful and we don't give a second thought to everyone we're passing by. I think most people understand that it's negativity bias, and the occasional idiot we encounter doesn't represent the majority of road users - cyclist or driver (...except Yodel drivers, obviously - they're all numpties 😂)
The hierarchy places those road users most at risk in the event of a collision at the top of the hierarchy. It does not remove the need for everyone to behave responsibly.
No, the hierarchy of road users has nothing to do with a lot of your examples Ash, those people just don't give damn about the rest of the other road users....they're just behaving in the only way they know, which is selfish.
Ashley hates the new hierarchy. Never has one positive thing to say about cyclists. In another video he claimed there was no way the cyclist had priority (quickly withdrawn) when the fault was with a driver approaching a roundabout way too fast (especially with lots of pedestrians around). Ashley epitomises the saying "there is no mistake a driver can make where a cyclist is not at fault"
That’s some scary video clips. Luckily being in a semi rural area with hills in every direction, we don’t have anywhere near as many cyclists. The loons mostly* don’t venture beyond the town onto the hills. The proper cyclists do tho…..and with a few exceptions they,are generally good and have decent road sense…..the only only problem is that when there’s a few together, the traffic can’t often get passed safely due to high speed busy A roads, and bends. Recently I’ve seen lines of 20 or even 30 vehicles stuck behind a few cyclists. Back to mostly*….theres a small number of loons that do cycle between the towns up several hills along busy fast A roads. The regular one I see is a late middle/nearing retirement age gentleman who is always on the same route, peddling like crazy but not going very fast-I don’t know the reason for this (this is on the flat sections btw)……but yes, cars, vans, buses, massive trucks, and even a few tractors all crawling along behind him.
I have heard some other cyclists say "I would not be at fault". They will not listen to logic. Also, why are black or dark cycling jerseys even manufactured? They blend into most backgrounds very well, which is a terrible idea.
The 3rd clip 0:30 I often ride the way that cyclist was riding and usually send it through that corner. But I don't commit until I can see down the road a little and would have been able to stop there if that was me or at lease I hope I would.😅 Maybe I'll end up being featured in one of these clips at some point.
2:25 if I were cycling, I would've stayed in primary position going pass the truck. No way a car behind could overtake passing the truck, and no way they can overtake if you were in primary, and also tells the driver you are turning even if you don't hand signal.
I promise you, Ashley. If someone is acting like they have nothing between their ears and end up harming themselves through a collision with a motorist then that driver should feel zero guilt for that situation. Stupid people win stupid prizes. People need to have the mental resilience to know when and where to take on board criticism. Being criticised for not crashing your own car to save someone who rides with no care for their own life is not one anyone should be taking on board.
I daresay you're not a psychologist. Neither am I, but let's apply your logic to a train driver whose train kills someone on the track. That person should not have been there and there all the driver could do was sound the horn. So the driver should be back at work the next day and won't need any support processing the event, let alone a near miss? I'm sure you know that's not how it is.
@ChrisBrown-px1oy Does someone need to be a psychologist to know that feeling guilty about something and psychological trauma are two different things? The train driver blaming themselves for the actions of the person who stepped onto the tracks is unhealthy and will lead to negative outcomes for the train driver that are self-inflicted. Feeling upset over the event, processing it, then letting it go because it wasn't their fault is the healthy way to deal with something like that. It may take some time to process, but that process has an end point as opposed to someone essentially giving themselves PTSD for life.
A wonder the cyclist in that last clip didn't report the driver for a close pass. "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein
To answer the "Have the Highway Code changes made some cyclists less responsible for their own safety?" I think I have to say a qualified "yes". The changes have emboldened the "my right of way" crowd to be more reckless and abrogate their responsibility for their own safety to other people. In this they are no different to the motorists who charge into roundabouts insisting people give them their "right of way", or the idiot drivers who speeds up into a restriction in the road where they legitimately have priority, straight into the teeth of an oncoming vehicle.
I agree. A small number of people who were already bolshy have become more so, but I reckon most are unaware of any changes and were already in either the sensible or stupid camps. Same for pedestrians.
Totally agree. I tend to find it's pedestrians too - well, in central London (or big towns) they do 🤕 Those changes to the HWC is good in principle, but doesn't suit life in the 21st century 😕
I don't agree. Whilst it's not been a perfect roll out of the new changes, far from it, I do think the majority of drivers are now taking more care around me when cycling. It has been noticeable. Of course there will always be the reckless, whether on two wheels or four, but they're not likely to take heed of anything in the Highway Code. I've certainly not noticed any pedestrians, cyclists or horseriders taking greater risks when I've been driving. Perhaps those drivers who are seeing 'more' reckless cycling, are just seeing what was already there, but in a different light? Knowing now, that the driver is expected to take greater responsibility, they're suddenly more acutely aware of vulnerable road users?
1:18 Not on topic but i must say i really must have lived too long in Basingstoke to be able to guess that it is the said city. Speaking of that city and cycling, it has bad cycling infrastructure, personaly it didn't bother me because im okay with being on the roads and not going to lie i enjoyed ring road rides but it leads to lot of people riding on pavements. One time i remember i was on the road and a scooter rider on a narrow pavement was ringing his bell at a pedestrian to get out of way, even though there was a calm carriageway he could have used (for those from Blasingsmoke it was the small road going uphill next to Oakridge junior school).
The "no number plate" status was probably justified by the fact that cyclists can't really be expected to get away from a police car that's trying to catch them. However that line of thought has become kind of outdated these days, where there's barely any police stopping people any more and any enforcement of the rules is left to red light cameras, dashcams and to sorting out insurance claims after the crash.
The bigger problem is that the force often do nothing even when they witness cycling offences themselves. If they were more strict I think this kind of cycling would be less common.
Drivers should use lights for anyone not in a car, so many times car drivers wave their hand and while cycling or walking I can't see them tell me to go as give way to me
From around 4:03, very wise advice there Ash re look after the safety of other road users, regardless of whether or not they are doing the "sensible" thing. Especially if the other road user is more vulnerable than you.
Do in I think the hierarchy rules have made cyclists drive more recklessly No, I doubt many of the most reckless "casual" cyclists are even aware of the highway code let alone what it says. Regular / "proper" cyclists may well be riding less submissively or even more cavalierly as shown with that one filtering into oncoming traffic.
Those clips are quite shocking. It's riders like that that give the rest of us cyclists a bad name. I have learned what to look out for when I am driving but I think I already knew NOT to do any of those things when i am cycling!
No they are just idiots. Just the same as you can't tar all car drivers or white van men the same. Idiots in every walk of life and no need to have this collective behavioural group mentality.
There's always one 😀but for the other 99.99999% of bikes, what is shown here, is standard riding behaviour.
@@wibbley1 Try watching one of Ashley's "Nice Cycling" videos.
@@wibbley1 From my own experience, as both a cyclist and motorist, I feel that the prevalence of this kind of cycling is dependent on where you are at the time. I live on the outskirts of a large city and hardly ever see such behaviour but when I go into the city is becomes commonplace. Maybe it's the (more hectic) pace of life in the city that encourages people to ride and drive like this?
@@wibbley1 You ever broken the speed limit mate?
The numpty in the last clip. I honestly believe he was trying to push the van out of his way because he feels he has a right to be there and the van doesn't. The laws of physics are going to catch up with him one day and I suspect the result will be far from pretty. All it would have taken there is for the van driver to go "What's that noise?" turn their head left to look, nudge their steering wheel a fraction as their shoulders turned and that guy would have been mixed up in the fence, the cones, and the van's wheels. Utter, utter stupidity.
The van didn’t give 1.5 metres!
yep, it's either that or the worst skitch I've ever seen
to be fair, with what looks to have been a decent cycle path dug up for building works on the left, I would have been tempted to ride down the empty pavement on the right.
I agree with you though I suspect that he puts his hand on the van for safety: If the van veers toward him, his extended arm will help to ensure that he automatically steers away from the van. Obviously this is a high-risk practice to begin with but you see some "extreme" cyclists use this technique.
@@Batters56 lol
@@shm5547this is my video clip. The path on the left is a cycle path. Now reinstated since the construction work. The path on the right is also a cycle path. We were travelling at nearly 30mph towards the end of the clip. I turn off once the clip ends however the cyclist slowed and positioned himself in primary almost as though he was trying to force a reaction from the van driver.
As a regular cyclist (and occasional driver), I agree 100% that the law on phone use while driving should be extended to cyclists. I would even go one step further and apply to pedestrians when crossing a road.
It is. It's called careless cycling. If prosecuted it attracts a 2,500 fine, not a 300 fine.
The only time I have been in a collision with another cyclist was with someone on their phone. Just swerved across the the cycle path; didn't even see me right in front of her.
@adenwellsmith6908 "If prosecuted..." now that made me laugh.
@@simonharris4873 I know!
PS It's the seats. They squeeze the balls, that increases the pressure in the spinal fluid. That moves up to the brain, where it causes problems in the eyes.
It's the cause of red-green colour blindness.
It also lowers the IQ by 30 points. Just watch any set of lights and you can see the clear evidence of the effect.
Another effect, clearly vision related, is wearing anything fluorescent. Particularly fluorescent pink.
@@adenwellsmith6908 As a friend of mine calls that, "The Nut Cracker Seat"! 🤦🚴💨
4:18, what I absolutely love about this clip is that, after almost being front-ended, the cammer calmly checks his right again to see if the gap he was aiming for was still there. Which it wasn't. Good on him for not just pulling out!
I've cycled twice daily, most weekdays for nearly two decades. I also drive a car. I've got to say, Ash, your rundown of cyclists in this video is absolutely on point!
I see this often from cyclists; as much as I see it from motorists. Your assessments are always completely fair and warranted IMO. Cheers for the vid!
Do you not feel though that half of the cyclists features were just local 15 year old boys who were out aimlessly wasting time and playing with traffic? And delivery riders too, they're such a different category of bike user cos they're so screen-focused and pressed for time.
Felt it was a bit unfair to group them with commute cyclists like you and me. Where we consciously experience cycling as a road user.
Firstly I want to thank you for changing the way I cycle as a result of the lessons I learned from your videos! I'm quite the avid cyclist but I must admit my attitude has been rather poor over the years. I used to focus heavily on being "in the right" rather than being safe or responsible. For example if a car cut me off on a roundabout I used to want to really stick it to them, but after watching your videos I have changed my attitude to such situations. Especially the question of "have I been seen?" really helped me be more responsible (for my own safety) while riding and give me more perspective.
I think that the hierarchy of road users does feed into cyclists not looking out for their own safety as much as they should. I think it causes some cyclists to rather be "in the right" than safe. I also think it gives some cyclists the feeling of being untouchable. After all the motorist is at fault if they hit the cyclist, even if the motorist was caught out completely by a cyclist being irresponsible (an alternative outcome to the clip at 0:28 comes to mind).
Something I have been noticing more and more whenever I cycle is that young people have been using their phones while riding. This is often accompanied by them having neither of their hands on the handlebars. This complete disregard for their personal safety is concerning and I couldn't imagine what a motorist would go through if they hit one of those cyclists.
Keep up the great content Ashley! Thanks for making me a better rider and driver!
Which is why there should be mandatory training, license and registration for cyclists.
They need to be protected from their own stupidity.
I do not think the law change has altered most of these peoples attitude, as they say you cant teach stupid let alone save them from themselves.
what law change ?
@@george-ev1dq try using google about the hierarchy of the road. Also the minimum distance to overtake cyclists...
The people that simply dont check its safe are still the same ones . They have never done and never will
I'm willing to bet the hierarchy of road users stuff hasn't changed cyclists' behaviour that much either: most of them likely aren't aware it's even a thing. Those driving dangerously need no excuse to do it.
@@mm3nrx not law though, just advise
A general "qualifier comment": I realise that my various comments for this video are primarily from the perspective of a car driver, even though this is a "Cycling" channel. Still, it illustrates a good point that this channel is a great learning tool for both cyclists AND motor vehicle drivers.
Sadly, most or all of the 'cyclists' shown would not see this channel!
Agree on the no mobile phones for cyclists, I also think that it would be good for pedestrians to not use theirs as well while crossing?
I was in total disbelief at that very last clip.
It was "perfectly fine". It is something some of the more experienced but risk-taking cyclists do when they ride close to vehicles.
@@guronanak9218as we have to often, I once was cycling fine then an idiot van driver overtakes me with his side mirror like 8" above my handlebars, not even keeping moving out so he avoid trying to hit my bars
Going up a hill in torrential rain a cyclist grabbed onto my car to pull him up, I screamed at him and he mouthed bad words and spat at my vehicle. The roads are full of idiots.
@Test-Tube-Baby-xo8xx Lights were green so no stopping
Lucas Brunelle?
I would say a proper cyclist is someones mum, dad, son, daughter riding to work or school. Yes it's a good idea to look after these people.
if you don't run down pedestrians in a crossing, can you even call yourself a proper cyclist?
@@kenbrown2808 Glad to not be a 'proper cyclist' then
@@QiuEnnan I'd rather be a good cyclist than a proper cyclist.
@@kenbrown2808 I am both!
So not someone who knows the highway code, is dressed suitably for the weather conditions, wears a helmet, has working lights etc?
There is a fine line between filtering and riding recklessly down the middle of the road into oncoming traffic.
1:05 I don't think road users like that stay up to date with the highway code, and if they somehow heard about changes, they wouldn't care.
That was nice to see the cyclist at 1:39 saying thank you to the drivers for looking after them 🤭
Agree. We all make mistakes sometimes and his apologetic gesture is the courteous thing to do.
@@KevinKaneCanada The very least he could do…
Yes maybe they were unfamiliar with the road and assumed the straight ahead had priority only realising last second their error. We are all human..thankfully no injuries or damage to property.
Totally agree.I think I must be one of the few who stops at red lights,and never uses a phone or headphones when cycling.Was actually following a lycra rodie at a safe distance when he pulled out without looking to over take a bus at its stop,the proceded,with no hand signals,to decide to almost come to a stop in the middle of the road,the make a sharp left turn right in front of me,wiping me out.He of course was fine.I explained to him,after getting up off the tarmac,that its bad enough having to look out for homicidal Uber drivers,without having to do the same for fellow cyclists.
I see the last cyclist almost took themselves out on a traffic cone playing the MGIF game
A cyclist on his phone gave a scare to me, another cyclist, at the weekend. The cycle route is a narrow shared surface between garden hedges and road. There’s little room to get past cyclists coming the other way (and even worse on weekdays when sharing with pupils for two secondary schools and two primary schools going in both directions).
This young man decided to come along at high speed while reading his phone. Just as he came near me he wobbled or was distracted and headed straight at me. I was relieved he recovered in time as I had nowhere to go, and if he had knocked into me I would have been under the wheels of the traffic next to me.
So there are clowns on one, two and four wheels. Make sure you identify and avoid them.
There are clowns without wheels too. (pedestrians)
@@Jasper_4444 ... and some of them don't pay road tax (or any tax save for VAT)!
I allways love to watch your videos about driving and cycling. As of now all i do is ride my bicycle, and whenever i watch your clips; my attitude and awarness increases. I allways try to do the right thing by riding safely, but sometimes i forget myself, then i watch those clips and i see of what I could have done better. Thank you for those videos, they are making a difference. Be safe y'all.
As cyclists we can make seemingly well-timed moves that give us a margin of safety to cross against oncoming traffic. I try to avoid the temptation to do it however, because drivers don’t know if you see them or if you’ll clear in time before they hit you. I’d rather delay my journey by a few seconds and avoid giving a driver a cardiac arrest.
Motorcyclists make a similar argument. I once pulled out knowing I was going to pull into the middle of the road into a filtering position. The oncoming car did an emergency stop. It was a moment of realisation. If you cause someone else to change speed or direction for you, you're doing it wrong. And it doesn't matter if you have seen the other person and planned around them, if they don't know, they'll plan to evade.
We're seeing a lot of people who would have got 50cc scooters purchasing electric bikes. Why wouldn't you? No insurance, MOT, training... As a result they're not getting a day of training and L plates with insurance and points on a licence for screwing up. No traceability, no penalty... It's basically 4chan on the roads.
You make well timed moves till you don't and end up in A&E. The road is not the place to take risks.
I am a cyclist.
@@ts757arse Well articulated sir! I especially like "If you cause someone else to change speed or direction for you, you're doing it wrong."
@@DemiGod.. Agree! It's a bit like free-solo climbing without safeties. "For years, every move he made was perfect and brilliant. Then he misjudged by an inch and now he's dead."
If only more thought and acted like you.
I would also argue that while the cyclist may feel they have the time and space to safely complete a maneuver, others may not be as comfortable with such "slim margins."
What would happen should, gods forbid, the cyclist fall ? Anything could happen to cause the cyclist to fall : an unseen patch of water or ice; debris seen at the last second; mechanical failure of the bike (eg: broken chain, pedal, etc.); a sudden gust of wind; an unanticipated blinding glare reflected off a window. Would the cars be able to stop in time ?
5:47 Surprised you didn't mention the blue floating bag on the right
Holy smokes! Scary
Yep almost invisible.
Why would anyone assign their safety to another person? Make an error or deliberately break the rules and expect others to correct the issue? Crass stupidity! If a driver hits them because they did not have time to respond. Yes they will suffer guilt for the remainder of their lives. The idiot that absconded from taking care leaves a family that suffers, but for them...................................................! Come on, when you check yourself in the mirror in the morning, remember the person looking back at you wants to do the same tomorrow.
I wouldn't feel any guilt if it were the other person's fault, I would be quite chuffed that I got to help out with natural selection. As long as I don't suffer any penalties in court, and my vehicle isn't damaged, then it's all good on my end. People shouldn't feel guilty about such things, that's not natural. I wonder what makes some people feel that way.
The thing I keep hearing from them is “I'm only putting myself in danger” and “If they can't deal with me properly, they shouldn't be driving.”
Entitlement.
Try pointing it out on any video posted by a cyclist and all you get is "STOP VICTIM BLAMING" "THEY SHOULDN'T BE DRIVING" etc etc.
They'll do anything other than admit that it was possible for the cyclist to have avoided the conflict in the first place.
@@isthatujeebus I'm not saying cyclists are never in the wrong - far from it - but what you wrote could just as easily be said about some drivers.
3:20 that was obviously careless and inconsiderate cycling but it should be noted that The Highway Code says cyclists may pass on the left with caution. Also, there is indeed legislation regulating the way you pass cyclists coming towards you (which wasn't relevant in this situation however) - the law against driving without due care and attention.
1:19 Demonstrates well the pointlessness of the shared use pavements that appear to be becoming common in new builds. Cyclists must slow at every single junction to be safe. Motorists must give way under the new Highway Code rules. Everyone is slowed down and inconvenienced, and importantly risk is actually increased. If no cycle lane had been built, the cyclist would be on a quiet road and no danger or inconvenience would be caused to anyone.
Imagine my surprise, when a few weeks ago, I was confronted by a cyclist, aimlessly riding around in circles on a dual carriageway.
I was exiting a roundabout at the time.
I think the second one at 0:24 was definitely intentional. They look to be coasting to the edge of the intersection and then make a split second decision "I can make that" and start pedaling hard.
Personally I learned to stop doing that around 2005 I think. Not sure about the date but I do remember the moment. I was waiting to cross the main road and when a gap in cars that looked big enough arrived I started to go. I was on a recumbent, right foot on the road, left clipped in. Left foot pushed, bike started moving, right foot lifted, clipped in on first try. To get out of there as fast as possible I used both legs to put as much power into it as possible, using my back against the seat to push even harder than standing on a pedal would do. The chain broke when I got to full power and now I was slowly coasting through the middle of a busy road with cars approaching from both sides. I have never felt more exposed and powerless on a road before. Nothing I could do but wave appologetically to all the drivers who had to stop and wait for me to get off the bike and walk it away, chaing dragging behind it uselessly. Lets just say I don't do these "well timed" maneuvres since then 🙂.
My chain slipped when crossing a dual carriageway in Austria last year - I needed a new pair of underpants afterwards. I am always super super careful now just in case it happens again!
We get them on bike lanes riding towards traffic as they haven't a clue what they should be doing.
I don't think these people in this vid on the pushbikes have any idea about the highway code, full stop. These are your John boys of the motoring world.
Phone use whilst cycling should be illegal like it is in NL, but in reality it wouldn't make a difference. Going through red is illegal as a cyclist. Riding on the pavement is illegal as a cyclist. Nothing would change.
It is. It's called careless cycling.
@@Robert-yw5ms It is the law in the UK
The problem is with the police. For example, an officer on Thursday told me they must ignore red light jumpers who don't stop.
Now I've got an FOI out for that information, with his ID in it so the met can check.
@@adenwellsmith6908 I can understand why. It would look both stupid and comical for a copper to be running down the road chasing a bike whilst yelling 'Oi I want a word with you'.
Bikes stop for nothing & nobody, why would they stop for a copper?
City of London plod recently did a red light jump initiative. Caught over 1000 bikes. Google for details.
Last guy is the type of guy to be on the forums claiming all drivers are terrible people.
I really don't think the heirarchy changes have made any difference to the way most people riding a bike behave. For those, like the one you mention at 1:10 that just ride out, clearly have little to no care for their own safety, let alone care or knowledge about any highway code changes that have hardly been publicised. I've personally not noriced any changes in behaviour since the code changes. Both before and after there are numpties that have a surprising lack of self preservation.
At around 0:33 when you are following the priority road around a blind-ish right hand bend and there's a side road to your left. I call this the "cross over situation" and am always on very high alert for this sort of thing. Specifically because oncoming traffic will often commit to turning into the side road before they can properly see what's coming around the "priority bend". Very similar recent footage from a so called "dash cam channel" where the cammer was apparently driving a US style police show car in the UK (complete with nudge bars) and collided with an oncoming van doing pretty much what the cyclist did in this clip. In fact, for a moment, I thought it was the same junction.
Similarly, if I am driving in the direction of the cyclist in this clip and want to turn right just off what for me is a left hand bend, I will make sure I first move sufficiently around the bend to see what's oncoming before committing to my right turn.
This video puts other dashcam compilations to shame. Thematic through line, commentary and analysis! ❤
As a cyclist I see this on a daily basis on my ride to work....we need Ashley law now to make roads safer for everyone and deliveroo riders 😊
hav to say, it's a rare sighting to catch 2 emergency services going in opposite directions under lights and sirens.
A cyclist i was following recently, rode through a red light.
As the traffic lights to our right had now turned green, the cyclist realised he was about to be struck by a vehicle passing through the green traffic light.
The cyclist ended up stopping in the road until the vehicle from the right had passed him and then rode around the back of the vehicle.
5:48 what about the other cyclist coming towards the car? No lights, in black, at night. Basically invisible until they are at the car.
Driver of the car still gets blamed.
In one local crash, a stupid person on a bike didn't stop at a give way line and hit the driver's door on a car and died as he didn't wear a helmet. That car driver was arrested at scene and charged with causing death by careless driving. It went a week before a trial and CPS dropped the case due to offering no evidence.
It was done to please the family who set up a tacky shrine obstructing the pavement.
Most families would be upset and angry, but the person to be angry with has gone, so why direct it at innocent members of the public.
The car was only going 20mph in a 30mph and police jumped at the chance of prosecuting a 70 year old without ANY investigation. The dents were in the side of the car clearly showing the driver had passed the junction when the cyclist struck the vehicle. Had it been the front I can see why they might have arrested to find facts.
Too much of this goes on, the highway code was only changed to shift personal responsibility and allow for no investigation prosecutions as there are far too many pedestrians walking in front of vehicles and idiots on bikes injuring themselves. There are no resources to investigate, so the law is now prove your innocence, a total reversal of what it should be. Your guilt should be proved in English Law. We have allowed this to be eroded.
Thanks to you, Ashley! - I used your recommendation of ‘car vertical’ to research my new car. Picking it up next week 😁
I use the roads on everything from a cycle to a 44tn HGV and my own safety is my own priority. Self preservation is my #1 when travelling on the roads I want to get home to my family as much as the driver/rider next to me. So I shall never understand how people can be so blissfully unaware
100% agree that the road hierarchy comment has led “proper cyclists” (MAMILs) to forego any self preservation in favour of “priority = invincibility”.
5:48 Oncoming cyclist with no lights & in dark clothing.
Don't know if you've watched @CycleGaz Ashley, he used to do a 'Silly Cyclists' series on his channel, mainly London, which were very 'eye-opening' at times but then as now his videos are very good at showing a number scenarios (some pointed out by you as either from a car or bike) - his last one was highlighting Rule 183 and how it's possible to assess which drivers are not following it.
you have to have only one inattentive motorist to take you out, even when equipped with safety gear, like lights and reflective harness/clothing, as I found out the hard way a long time ago, I was lucky to have survived that crash, my ponytail actually cushioned the back of my skull to some extend. I since then started wearing a helmet whilst cycling. But there's no excuse to go out at night wearing dark clothing. Then you're asking for trouble.
@@techjunkie68smusicandtech56You can wear dark clothing if your bike have good lights and reflectors.
@@techjunkie68smusicandtech56 As difficult as it might be to think it but it's not normally personal or anti bike, just plain bad driving. Few year back I had a car turning right out of a fuel station T bone me because he didn't see me, I was driving a large red Land Rover in day light at 20mph, he hit the side hard enough to push 2 tonne of vehicle 10ft across the road with a Maestro, no one was injured although I expect he had whiplash later. For me it was an insurance claim, if it had been you on a bike its unlikely to have ended well and almost certainly would have involved an ambulance. Police attended and I believe he later voluntarily gave up his license at the request of his family, a moment earlier and I would have hit into the driver door which even though I was only doing about 20mph would likely to have resulted in injuries at least.
Some people either just don't look or sometimes can't see, as you say the best safety gear in the world won't stop that but the more visible a rider (or vehicle) is the less likely it is to happen and the odds move a bit more in your favour.
@@sf2201I ride a bike for commuting and shopping and everything else, own a car and a tractor and I'm a dreaded white van driver for my wages.
Motor bike mirrors on my bike, always have a bright permanent flashing front light, a separate powerful constant beam headlight for night time, two very bright flashing taillights and another on the back of my helmet plus always wear a reflective hi-vis vest at least.
The cyclists in videos like this behaving like flies darting in random unexpected directions or without any perception of the danger they are causing drives me mad whether I'm on two wheels or four.
But also for all of my safety precautions and behaving as responsibly as I can on a bike, the amount of stupid, inattentive, reckless or sometimes just deliberately aggressive and dangerous things drivers have done is beyond counting. Obviously the latter category are the worst.
We all make mistakes. I'm a long way from being perfect.
But the funniest or saddest thing is the reckless cyclist who complains about reckless drivers but is also one of the most reckless drivers themselves around cyclists when behind their own wheel. It should be a meme.
But to be fair, 98-99% of all drivers are generally doing the best they can apart from the occasional lapse.
Mostly it's not a big deal if everyone doesn't make a Jeremy Vine big deal out of something totally avoidable.
On two wheels your constant mantra has to be, defensive, defensive, defensive.
One of those is in Leeds. You should see the city centre with the delivery riders. Absolute maniacs.
Love the point about why do cyclists put themselves in these situations. I've been saying for ages, if motorists are expected to give cyclists the same room they'd give a small car, then cyclists shouldn't be allowed to squeeze into gaps a small car wouldn't be able to.
Roads have been designed for motor vehicles and make it harder to move around on a bicycles. This then breeds a lot of behaviours you see in the clip. Cycling involves physical effort, more so when stopping and restarting and people naturally conserve effort. And without a high top-speed, journey times can easily double when you are compliant to all the traffic rules.
It's not idiocy, it's unaccountability. They know it's always the driver that's blamed, so the driver will have to hold back. You can thank the geniuses that came up with the user hierarchy for making roads unsafer for everyone
I think it is a good idea to do the theory test online, i do it every now and then sometimes i fail on what to do around pedestrians and cyclists, the answers are not always clear. i pass more than i fail but it is sometimes not a clear cut answer. i also read the highway code and sometimes it is contradictory in my opinion.
Yes! The new hierarchy rules have definitely made cyclists more careless.
When you make person A responsible for the safety of person B, person B will behave recklessly because he knows person A will be held responsible for his recklessness.
I would think this would be obvious to everyone.
It's difficult to say whether some of these incidents are a direct result of cyclists knowing they now have greater priority due to the "new" rules or whether they would have done these kinds of things anyway. I have a feeling many cyclists aren't even aware of the new rule changes, even though they are there are for their own benefit. After all, many pedestrians aren't aware of the changes either. As noted when you correctly give pedestrians priority at junctions...and yet they still end up waiting with a blank look on their face.
Yet again we find ourselves in full agreement.
@@PedroConejo1939 There must have been some kind of magnetic field we both picked up in the PNW that makes our thought processes strikingly similar! I've noticed this happening on multiple occasions.
It's basically impossible to say without actually interviewing the relevant parties. Anything else (either way) is mere supposition.
As a cyclist and a pedestrian i'm aware of the changes but still pretty much act the same (which is to say, i'll give the big metal box priority unless and until they make it _very_ clear they're giving it to me instead). But then I always look both ways when crossing a one way street too so maybe I just have trust issues :).
@@anonymes2884 I take exactly the same philosophy as you when I'm a pedestrian. Including looking both ways when crossing a one way street.
At around 3:24 re the "positive" part and the comment "They're more likely to be seen out here rather than the left side". I'd add "They're more likely to be seen with a cycling headlight on in daylight too. A rear light in daylight wouldn't hurt for rear visibility either, as well as a high vis cycling vest". After all, cars have daytime running lights and motorcyclists have been riding on dipped headlight for decades. Cyclists are even easier to miss than cars and motorcyclists.
I ride with my lights on flash in daylight and solid in the dark. I always wear something reflective, even in broad daylight.
The Highway Code only advises cyclists (and motorcyclists and other drivers) to use lights in dull daytime weather (in addition to the requirement at night or when visibility is seriously reduced)
But in fact, in bright sunlight it's very easy to overlook other road users. When I cycle in bright sunlight I put my lights on.
@@Jasper_4444 it does help but it's important to remember it's a personal choice - and not a requirement or even advised by The Highway Code
@@QiuEnnan Why is it important for us to remember it's a personal choice? That's for the police and lawyers clearing up afterwards to remember, so they don't incorrectly prosecute the corpse.
Last one from my local town. I cycle along that part of road most days after leaving hospital. Its actually a really nice shared cycle path 😂 not sure what that bloke was thinking
There was a fatal collision involving a child at that first junction many years ago. This is right next to where I live, and that junction is prone to crashes often.
Judging by the state of the road markings - nobody gives a sh..t, unfortunately.
At 5:50 you are assuming she didn't look, but she did. When the road is wide enough cyclists can enter a road making a left turn because the vehicles do not ride up against the kerb. There is always that gap and her attention was focused on sliding into it.
This video makes me think there needs to be a road cycling CBT.
A good reason for giving plenty of room when overtaking bikes I've never seen mentioned anywhere is strong wind
the best thing about cycling is that is cheap and open to anyone... which makes it one of the fairest and most equal forms of transport ever.
...the worst thing about cycling is that is cheap and open to anyone.
In places where cycling is successful bicycles are treated like pedestrian transport. Kept safe and secure away from more dangerous vehicles, by road design. In the UK we will never see this. So we have the worst of both situations.
In the UK, drivers only consider people on bicycles to be fellow road users when they do something wrong, like ride without lights or ride through a red light. Until then, they are an inconvenience that shouldn't be on the road because they are too slow, they get in the way, they don't pay road tax and they don't have insurance.
One thing people don't realize (neither drivers nor pedestrians nor cyclists themselves) is that riding a bicycle in "sport" mode, i.e. road bike, MTB, not granny on an E-Bike, your body is basically in fight or flight mode. You have much greater awareness of your surroundings, reaction times are faster. Many actions cyclists make that are surprising and sudden to other road users are perfectly fine for the cyclist, who is much more agile.
What is the maximum speed limit road a cyclist can travel on?
70mph. They're allowed on all roads except motorways.
I personally wouldn't have tried to overtake at this point with the junction to the right, still poor from the cyclist 2:20
I was going to say the same thing. Although I have passed a cyclist near a junction when the junction was clear but then a car emerged (my poor judgement to which I have held my hands up and accepted my error), I wouldn't try to attempt a pass while a vehicle is waiting and already over the line
I wouldn't have chosen this point to overtake either. In order to overtake, the driver would have needed to signal, which might have been confusing to the driver waiting to pull out or, indeed, anyone thinking about crossing the road ahead, who then might have reasonably have assumed that our driver was going to turn right.
The golden rule must surely be to not overtake at a junction. To be honest, I'm surprised Ashley didn't point this out.
Genuine question regarding bicycles filtering: Is it really safer for them to cross the flow of traffic twice in order to overtake on the right? Bearing in mind that the second time, when crossing back to the left, the cars will likely be starting to move again?
What do you think?
Yes its safer. Most drivers check there right mirror more than there left plus cyclist has a better view of oncoming traffic that may want to turn right plus the driver can also see the cyclist better than if they are on the left filtering. Lets say a bus has stopped before a junction and you want to turn rigjt into the junction. What side would you prefer the cyclist to filter left where you cant see them of the right where you can see them. Saying that when filtering you can't go full speed with no regard
it depends, sometimes it's safer on the right, sometimes the left
It really depends on the traffic conditions. When I'm filtering I'll be continually assessing which side is safer.
That said, if you're in a situation where you're filtering, then the centre of the lane is often going to be the safest position for the cyclist to be in once the traffic starts flowing again, not the left of the lane.
We have a class of vehicle sharing the road driven by people who may never have had a lesson, no requirement to know the rules and laws, let them be completely unidentifiable and give them priority.
I ride to work 2 days a week in C London. Clint's are the worst. I stop at every light, not just because it's the rules but because I'm nearly 50 and need the breather. But 99% of cyclists don't stop, no matter what. Yesterday on way home saw a Lime biker with headphones jump out of a side street on a red, right across the front of a blue lighted, siren wailing ambulance. He saw and heard NOTHING and was INCHES from death. Pedestrian waiting at the lights screamed in fright, it was that close. Lime biker oblivious. The ambulance was moving in the opposite direction to me and I heard the siren and waited for it to pass. Lime biker couldn't hear the siren due to headphones AND didn't look before jumping a light on a side road and emerging onto a MAIN road...
I've seen one idiot cycling along with no hands on the handlebars, and using his phone; texting I think.
Then there's this other idiot I've seen doing the same thing at 5:30am when it was still fully dark.
This was on a cycle path, but he did not have any lights at all. Along this stretch of road there isn't any street lighting at all.
I think the question about priority making cyclists less responsive is a question worth asking. But it can be better placed, the cyclist's either side of that question are not the type who'd even know about cycling rules, let alone changes
Since the changes, the ones that have changed the most are pedestrains, they dont bother looking anymore, just blindly cross junctions. I find it shocking when a mother does that with a pram or a young kid on the dangrous side as as not her that will get knocked down first.
some real numpties here, they should look at all times where necessary even WITH the new highway code rules on pedestrians and cyclists etc
Excellent video Ashley!
when i was young in the 70s we had to do Cycling Proficiency Test ,
and there used to be adds with the green cross man for children to watch ,
why dont they have them anymore if they are so concerned about saftey
My takeaways as a cyclist are: high viz clothes; helmet; extra running lights. I don't ride with electronics, but i do use my ears and what has caused my closest calls are battery cars that come too close. How many times do i have impatient motorists passing me a foot away from my handlebars when they could wait for a safe place.... i could make a whole video series of those. Fact is, we're glorified pedestrians on trolleys, and just like pedestrians - dogs that spook on the lead, children who run amok, mistakes happen - road bumps that throw the bike, wind that pushes you sideways, rain that obscures your vision; i'm glad responsible motorists are looking out.
Honestly, I'm convinced that 90% of bad cycling is simply because the cyclist is so desperate to preserve momentum that they'll risk almost anything to avoid having to brake and then pedal to regain speed.
Driving downhill along a narrow street recently, a lycra lout emerged from a side-road at speed, moved onto the "wrong" side of the road to avoid parked cars and started up the hill.
I slowed right down and moved as close to the kerb as possible (to make it as safe as possible for him to pass) and got a thump on my roof as thanks.
Unfortunately, the car behind me failed to leave sufficient space so the lycra lout had to stop immediately after hitting my roof, right next to my open window.
I very politely asked "Can I help you?" and he replied "Didn't you see me coming?"
I said I saw him coming on the wrong side of the road and asked if he thought he should have waited for the oncoming traffic.
He replied "How am I supposed to stop while riding uphill?"
The Ambulance driver, just like all energency service drivers responding to an emergency have to go through junctions carefully as they could be held responsible if there was an accident. So, that cyclist didn't hold them up that much.
As a leg user not a battery user, id have coasted through that red the 3 went through. But as for the cyclist holding the van, that was him feeling distance, he was holding the A frame also, thats up a really nasty incline and he has to keep his speed up, its pain if he doesnt. It ok for a cyclist to pass at what ever distance they chose, they can see whats next to them, its not ok for cars and larger metal boxes to bully cyclists into the gutter when something is coming the other way.
Some really shocking clips here, its worrying how many seem to just not bother looking one bit, that UK law change seems to have given some the opinion they dont need to look out for their own safely which is craziness
Maybe I missed Ashley talking about it, but did he miss the cyclist with no lights on the right side at 5:47? Or am I seeing things? :D Excellent video as always!
EDIT: Flow of the ambulance at 5:17.
The Ambulance had to slow down for this junction.
IT would be crazy if they had tried to cross it with high speed.
The bicyclist was wrong using their phone and proceeding.
BUT, be real mr Neal, he did not disrupt the flow.
Or did you expect the ambulance to go full speed over the junction?
And the rest:
Using the phone on a bike in the Netherlands is illegal.
Does it stop the stupidos to use their phone while on the bike?
NOPE!!!
So what good does that law do if the people who are supposed to enforce this law are not doing so because they are already overwhelmed with other activities/stuff?
If the police are not even able to handle real crime, how can we expect them to enforce laws like not using the phone on the bike?
Heck, mr Neal, i will do you a favor.
I will count the people driving their cars on the roads and using their phones.
I will count them all up for just 1 day.
Do not be surprised if i reach a count of at least 250, but i reckon even more.
People simply do not care.
Because the seatbelt will save them.
The airbag will save them.
The law will save them, even if they are dead because of the collision/accident.
And a person who did not want to cause any accident but did because of silly behavior from others on their bike, they will be send to jail.
The world is upside down in that kinda legislation.
The world is upside down if people on cycles think they own the roads.
And clearly sanctioning does not help.
It does not help to stop people from using their phone. It does not help to stop Russia from winning the war in Ukraine.
Sanctions are nonsense.
If we are ever going to take back the globe, and have a civilized society where people care about one and other, we will have to start by accepting the truth.
We are animals.
And just like in the wild, a wolf is not sanctioned by barks and other wolfs staring and barking.
A wolf is sanctioned the way it should be done. Discipline.
A bite.
A fight.
And if they don't see the light, then they have to leave or will at the end of the fight have died.
(dutch guy. If make the no sense, ask the question)
By protecting people in traffic the way we are doing now is making things worse for everyone on the roads
Some of these clips are shocking, and highlights a few issues on the bad cyclists, I’ve seen down the years:
1. There is definitely an element of among the bad cyclists who think they are exempt from anything related to awareness or even rudimentary aspects of the Highway Code..the amount of times I’ve seen cyclists go through red lights, in busy city centre areas, is staggering…
2. I still find it ridiculous that anybody, who has never so much as even flicked through the Highway Code, can still get on a bicycle, and go out on the road: no mandatory test, no checking as to road worthiness of bicycle, no requirement of insurance in case of accident…nothing..,
3. And, the parts showing cyclists checking texts on their mobile phone, while cycling in a busy city centre, again seems to demonstrate the attitude of “I’m a cyclist, so I’m exempt from following the rules”…
4. A cyclist can commit an offence or cause an accident on the road, but, 9 times out of 10, unless they are stopped there and then by the Police, there is actually nothing stopping them from cycling away, never to be seen again…a vehicle doing the same can be identified by their registration, not so for a cyclist…
Something seriously has to change, I’ve seen some brilliantly aware cyclists, but there are serious flaws in both the mindset of the element of bad cyclists…
While there are of course bad motorists, it is a case of them doing the test etc, and then picking up bad habits, that get worse and worse over the years…but at least there’s a test…
With cyclists, there isn’t even a mandatory test to start with, so, it’s no wonder that there is a mindset of “feeling exempt from the rules” among the bad element of cyclists..
At around 4:15 (blink and you might miss it. Pause the video to see) > I'm wondering what's the van doing on the wrong side of the road right up to a T junction. And no, it's not one way, as denoted by the "single dotted" section of the Give Way lines across the right hand part of the junction. Plus it's after dark, so even with no junction, "wrong side" parking would be illegal anyway. Plus it's literally right AT the junction corner.
It's probably parked. No headlights on
These videos (as great as they are by the way) in my opinion fuel the constant hate debate between motorists and cyclists.
This shows how good some drivers can be and how terrible some cyclists can be but there are plenty of other videos that show the opposite.
There is blame on both sides but I think videos like this show that the decision to enforce the hierarchy of road users was the wrong one.
The moment you take away any sort of responsibility from either side there will be accidents.
Imagine if the shoe was on the other foot and cyclists had to give way to motorists. There would be a massive rise in collisions.
Great video, something for us all to think about
The decision should have been based on visibility, not vulnerability.
Hi Ashley I might have mentioned this before but once more for the kiddies, the new rule for driver is to allow one and a half metres when passing cyclists, this is not directional!, if what you say is correct it would state allow that space when overtaking not passing. I do understand that many people now believe that words can be re-defined in what ever way suits them and crusty old pedants like me are to me ignored.
My own point of view relates mostly to the way I would feel if and when I am the driver involved in an incident where somebody else is seriously hurt, that feeling will be in no way modified by who's fault it all was. While these highway code 'rules' are sensible and reasonable the central issue of personal responsibility is always paramount.
Cheers, Richard.
Where is that in the code? I could only find in rule 163 "As a guide: leave at least 1.5 metres when overtaking cyclists at speeds of up to 30mph, and give them more space when overtaking at higher speeds". (That was looking in the online version.)
@@tomhollins5303 Hi Tom Hollins, thank you very much for your relevant and appropriate comments, I decided to go and look at that part of the Highway Code myself to check and sure enough you are correct!, I don't know where I gort my idea from in the first place but it is possible that I made the same mistake many of us make when we think we understand the meaning of rules and try to make good sense of them. On reflection I still think the rules should include safe passing from the opposite direction but as things stand I got this one wrong!.
Cheers, Richard.
@@richardharvey1732 No problem, we are all here trying to understand more and become better drivers.
This should really be on the motoring channel because the cyclists who ride like this will not change their behaviour because of this video.
Some motorists (most are already aware) on the other hand may benefit from it.
I commented similarly a few months ago, I think few people will benefit from this. The intention is good but the effect minimal I suspect.
Disagree wholeheartedly Graham. I put plenty of content on the main channel how motorist should act around cyclists. Mainly my audience on the other channel is appreciative of proper road use so the argument could be made of driving fails being pointless there also. Even if there is one point from this video that a cycling viewer sees and implements into their riding for the good, that is positive.
@@AshleyNeal-JustCycling I think a lot of the motoring content causes pause for thought in even the most experienced drivers.
I suggest that the vast majority of the viewers of the cycling channel would not cycle in such a way as those in the videos, perhaps with the exception of the red light jumping road cyclists.
I do agree though that if only one cyclist changes their behaviour and as a result avoids serious injury or worse, then it is worth it.
Due to health issues I cant cycle no more but I always stuck to the left side of the road or on a cycle path. People have got to remember life is not the game GTA if you die your not coming back to life, You only have one life (REMEMBER THAT)
The sad thing here as a motorist who drives 30,000 miles per year for my work and I cycle 8000 miles per year, these cyclists Tar everyone with the same brush, it’s worth noting not everyone rides like this, however seeing this gives me a good understanding of why nearly all motorists hate cyclists, sadly videos like this do nothing to change that mindset, we only ever see the worst in these sort of videos, and no one even considers riders that are respecting the Highway Code and other road users, I guarantee when I get in my car to go to work this morning I also see motorists doing something stupid within the first minute of driving, the common denominator here is Human beings, not cyclists, not motorists etc, it’s just people and in most cases people are not capable of being on the roads safely!
To be fair, this is the "Cycling Fail" series - the point is to highlight bad cycling. The "Nice Cycling" videos (which there are currently more of) exist to showcase the good cycling. Also I strongly disagree that "nearly all motorists hate cyclists". I think the vast majority have no strong feelings about them either way and just see them as other road users they need to share space with. I often see bad cyclists and bad drivers but the vast majority of our time on the road is uneventful and we don't give a second thought to everyone we're passing by. I think most people understand that it's negativity bias, and the occasional idiot we encounter doesn't represent the majority of road users - cyclist or driver (...except Yodel drivers, obviously - they're all numpties 😂)
The hierarchy places those road users most at risk in the event of a collision at the top of the hierarchy. It does not remove the need for everyone to behave responsibly.
No, the hierarchy of road users has nothing to do with a lot of your examples Ash, those people just don't give damn about the rest of the other road users....they're just behaving in the only way they know, which is selfish.
Ashley hates the new hierarchy. Never has one positive thing to say about cyclists. In another video he claimed there was no way the cyclist had priority (quickly withdrawn) when the fault was with a driver approaching a roundabout way too fast (especially with lots of pedestrians around). Ashley epitomises the saying "there is no mistake a driver can make where a cyclist is not at fault"
That’s some scary video clips.
Luckily being in a semi rural area with hills in every direction, we don’t have anywhere near as many cyclists.
The loons mostly* don’t venture beyond the town onto the hills. The proper cyclists do tho…..and with a few exceptions they,are generally good and have decent road sense…..the only only problem is that when there’s a few together, the traffic can’t often get passed safely due to high speed busy A roads, and bends. Recently I’ve seen lines of 20 or even 30 vehicles stuck behind a few cyclists.
Back to mostly*….theres a small number of loons that do cycle between the towns up several hills along busy fast A roads. The regular one I see is a late middle/nearing retirement age gentleman who is always on the same route, peddling like crazy but not going very fast-I don’t know the reason for this (this is on the flat sections btw)……but yes, cars, vans, buses, massive trucks, and even a few tractors all crawling along behind him.
I have heard some other cyclists say "I would not be at fault". They will not listen to logic.
Also, why are black or dark cycling jerseys even manufactured? They blend into most backgrounds very well, which is a terrible idea.
The 3rd clip 0:30 I often ride the way that cyclist was riding and usually send it through that corner. But I don't commit until I can see down the road a little and would have been able to stop there if that was me or at lease I hope I would.😅
Maybe I'll end up being featured in one of these clips at some point.
2:25 if I were cycling, I would've stayed in primary position going pass the truck. No way a car behind could overtake passing the truck, and no way they can overtake if you were in primary, and also tells the driver you are turning even if you don't hand signal.
I promise you, Ashley. If someone is acting like they have nothing between their ears and end up harming themselves through a collision with a motorist then that driver should feel zero guilt for that situation. Stupid people win stupid prizes. People need to have the mental resilience to know when and where to take on board criticism. Being criticised for not crashing your own car to save someone who rides with no care for their own life is not one anyone should be taking on board.
I daresay you're not a psychologist. Neither am I, but let's apply your logic to a train driver whose train kills someone on the track. That person should not have been there and there all the driver could do was sound the horn. So the driver should be back at work the next day and won't need any support processing the event, let alone a near miss? I'm sure you know that's not how it is.
@ChrisBrown-px1oy Does someone need to be a psychologist to know that feeling guilty about something and psychological trauma are two different things? The train driver blaming themselves for the actions of the person who stepped onto the tracks is unhealthy and will lead to negative outcomes for the train driver that are self-inflicted. Feeling upset over the event, processing it, then letting it go because it wasn't their fault is the healthy way to deal with something like that. It may take some time to process, but that process has an end point as opposed to someone essentially giving themselves PTSD for life.
A wonder the cyclist in that last clip didn't report the driver for a close pass.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein
Maybe the cycle efficiency test should be Mandatory
They do the same thing in pedestrian zones aswell
third one - the roadie - was obviously aware. just felt invulnerable.
@1.05, yes i do, and i said it would happen in a comment i left on one of your videos when the changes came in.
To answer the "Have the Highway Code changes made some cyclists less responsible for their own safety?" I think I have to say a qualified "yes". The changes have emboldened the "my right of way" crowd to be more reckless and abrogate their responsibility for their own safety to other people. In this they are no different to the motorists who charge into roundabouts insisting people give them their "right of way", or the idiot drivers who speeds up into a restriction in the road where they legitimately have priority, straight into the teeth of an oncoming vehicle.
I agree. A small number of people who were already bolshy have become more so, but I reckon most are unaware of any changes and were already in either the sensible or stupid camps. Same for pedestrians.
Totally agree. I tend to find it's pedestrians too - well, in central London (or big towns) they do 🤕
Those changes to the HWC is good in principle, but doesn't suit life in the 21st century 😕
@@PedroConejo1939 All cyclists are.
Why pedestrians? What laws broken there?
I don't agree. Whilst it's not been a perfect roll out of the new changes, far from it, I do think the majority of drivers are now taking more care around me when cycling. It has been noticeable. Of course there will always be the reckless, whether on two wheels or four, but they're not likely to take heed of anything in the Highway Code. I've certainly not noticed any pedestrians, cyclists or horseriders taking greater risks when I've been driving.
Perhaps those drivers who are seeing 'more' reckless cycling, are just seeing what was already there, but in a different light? Knowing now, that the driver is expected to take greater responsibility, they're suddenly more acutely aware of vulnerable road users?
@@shm5547 Well gosh. I'm sure we're _all_ surprised at that.
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1:18
Not on topic but i must say i really must have lived too long in Basingstoke to be able to guess that it is the said city.
Speaking of that city and cycling, it has bad cycling infrastructure, personaly it didn't bother me because im okay with being on the roads and not going to lie i enjoyed ring road rides but it leads to lot of people riding on pavements. One time i remember i was on the road and a scooter rider on a narrow pavement was ringing his bell at a pedestrian to get out of way, even though there was a calm carriageway he could have used (for those from Blasingsmoke it was the small road going uphill next to Oakridge junior school).
The "no number plate" status was probably justified by the fact that cyclists can't really be expected to get away from a police car that's trying to catch them. However that line of thought has become kind of outdated these days, where there's barely any police stopping people any more and any enforcement of the rules is left to red light cameras, dashcams and to sorting out insurance claims after the crash.
The bigger problem is that the force often do nothing even when they witness cycling offences themselves. If they were more strict I think this kind of cycling would be less common.
Drivers should use lights for anyone not in a car, so many times car drivers wave their hand and while cycling or walking I can't see them tell me to go as give way to me
From around 4:03, very wise advice there Ash re look after the safety of other road users, regardless of whether or not they are doing the "sensible" thing. Especially if the other road user is more vulnerable than you.
as one of my local police put it, "...but that doesn't give you the right to ram them." (in regards to a rules question, not at a crash scene)
Do in I think the hierarchy rules have made cyclists drive more recklessly
No, I doubt many of the most reckless "casual" cyclists are even aware of the highway code let alone what it says.
Regular / "proper" cyclists may well be riding less submissively or even more cavalierly as shown with that one filtering into oncoming traffic.