oh im so scared for season 5 if he almost doubled his kill count in the space of one season, and now he doesn't even have a moral compass trying to hold him back
Season 5 will have The therapist, Paco, Ellie and characters that are still alive for the finale Whats your theory on the finale? Will it be Joe's downfall? What will happen with Kate? Will he fall in love with someone from before?
One of the things I believe made him so interesting is the fact that most of his first victims were not planned, the show made it seems like almost accidents or self defense
Yeah so it shows joe Doesnt enjoy killing people He killed everyone in s4 on purpose with that intention to do so except rhys and that body guard who he choked out So as ryan benji elijah and peach
Joe was a killing machine in season 1, and then tried very hard to keep himself in line over the next two seasons, with only two kills each in season 2 and 3. Not to mention in season two, the first kill was total self-defense and the second one was accidental. Even in season 3, killing Love was absolute self-defense, although obviously killing Marianne's ex was due to his unhealthy obsessive habits. But man, Joe has turned back into a butcher again in season 4, and now has no conscience about it. He needs to be killed or imprisoned for life in season 5.
Yeah. Season 5 will have Ellie, Paco and other characters that survived, like the therapist. Who will he fall in love with, this time? Who will he kill? Will he die? Anyone have a good theory? I saw a lot of people wanting Ellie to finish him off in the end.
Killing Love was technically self defense but he was still stalking another woman knowing exactly what Love was gonna do about that. Just like how he always takes people out around his obsession to keep it going(Peach, Benji, Forty indirectly). Yet when Love does it she's crazy. They both deserved to be in jail but they're not better than one another.
I feel like his mom set him up to kill his dad. She knew her son was off, and she mentioned she wanted to kill him, then showed him the gun & it’s location.. Messed up she ended up abandoning him over it.
Agreed. Beck because it was deeply impactful. Women like Beck loses their life to man like Joe,everyday. And Edward because that's the first kill he felt no remorse and deeply enjoyed framing his favourite student for that murder.
it's crazy how we we're on his side most of the time, we always see his pov but season 4 him is much crazier bruh, he was ruthless for framing nadia killing her own love interest
But before that he jumped in the river.. He wanted to kill himself just bcz of his sin that’s good side of his character , but anyhow when he saved that good side also died became more ruthless
Eddie's death in the last season had me shocked more than anything else--I can't believe he would do that to two teenagers who did nothing wrong to him, like besides him killing Beck, that's probably the most evil thing he's ever done.
Yup also the years 2019-2021 is a while too also when he killed Ryan it was so cold 🥶 it’s like the writers knew it was a long time since he killed someone and gave us he’s best kill
I still love Joe. 18 was the most satisfying kill because it was offscreen and yet it leaves us with the most intimidating scene of Joe simply leaving a message : YOU don’t mess with Joe.
@@murderjai people who only realized how evil Joe is after the 4th season's ending (i've seen lots of comments like that) are well.. interesting. but people that still don't realize how bad he is and say they love him must be psychopaths. i understand it's fiction but still.. how can you love a serial killer? (i love this show but i hate Joe)
@@annam5898 I realized how evil joe was before the ending of season 4 and after he murdered love and frankly lost all of his personality, I didn’t for say like him but I didn’t hate him that much because I did really like love but she was a murderer so ig i was somewhat fine with it. after the 4th season tho? I genuinely hate joe and want him to be caught.
I wonder if Joe has killed other people that we don't know about inbetween Elijah and Benji? as with Elijah he seemed kinda shocked pretty much confirming that he was the first person he had killed since his dad or step dad when he was a kid. but with Benji he seemed very calm and collected which makes me wonder Wether he had killed others inbetween that time?
He has killed others yes in the books he has killed way more then in the show he dated more women and killed more people before beck but mainly at the end of the chapters joe never gets caught and jeeps killing til he old and dies what made joe crazier in the show that caused him to kill more and more without knowing was i think love fucked him up you kinda see in s3 he started to hallucinate his other personality in a episode it just was clone look then back in s2 see himself as a kid joe became mentally insane now his other personality now almost has full control as you see in s4 s5 will be very much more intense and more kills
He wasn’t calm. For starters he didn’t have any plan for Benji and might've even released him if he didn’t recognise him from the cab with Beck. He was also going through inner struggles whether to murder him or not before coming to the decision. Elijah was his first legitimate kill because he was a kid when he killed his Dad. That's why he freaked out.
of all these deaths rhy’s death is more brutal the man was tortured and then strangled to death by someone he didn’t even know , imagine what was going through his mind when all that had happened
I figured this vid would include his 19th kill, himself. When he jumped into the river and woke up the doctor said he technically died because his heart stopped beating.
Nah in the book she got dragged to rehab by her parents. In the show it only hinted at the previous tenant leaving in a hurry (s2 ep1). I think he mentions fluffy pink pillows somewhere, so I do assume it was that girl from the book
I never realised how different the different dubs are. The german dub for Joe is not as dark and masculin, but a lot higher, and actually a lot creepier. He just has this lunatic feeling in his german voice
So there's a guy I recently got involved with who looks So Much Like Joe Goldberg they could be twins. Watching this, helps me move on- so thank you C: I can't finish it, by the way. Had to stop at @1:52. too much for me.
combination of sexism and the show being told thru his perspective [so its easier to make excuses for him because of the narrator bias/rationalizations]
I would say he is on par with Love now. Before season 4, Joe was repulsed by his evil side and killed out of his unhealthy obsessions over girls, for self-preservation or in self-defense, while Love not only enjoyed killing but was sexually aroused by it. Joe has obviously accepted who he is by the end of season 4 and is more dangerous than ever, having no remorse now and access to Kate's money and influence.
@@tonyc7301 You're twisting things. Joe is much worse than Love. Joe didn't kill only unhealthy obsessions. He killed Beck and almost killed Candace because he doesn't care about consent or free will. And Love killed five people: her nanny, to protect her brother who was being raped; her husband, by accident; Candace and Delilah, to protect Joe; and Natalie, the only one who was planned and selfish at the same time. If she enjoyed or was sexually aroused by a death, was just this one.
It was all Joe. Rhys had no idea who Joe was. He was a hallucination all this time even before Joe killed him, his dark side in fact. This season just shows how really dark his character has gotten. Btw the trailer for season 5 released; coming out in April 26!
No ly I thought it was more in the beginning when the video started my guessing number was 20,I don't count bodies when I watch it I look at polt twist how he did and and why and some of them was trying to kill him
The way it took joe to kill 10 people in 3 seasons and then he killed an additional 8 people in the newest season.
and the fact that he did all that while he was trying to change
He was so out of it he didn't even know he was doing it that's the scariest part. His dark side really takes over and he eventually embraces it
Three of the people he killed was pretty much Rhys killing them while using Joe's body
@@Thetrengthat’s not how it worked
@@nyxcal But that's how it happened. Rhys took control of Joe's body, and killed people with it
i like how his 5th,10th and 15th kill were all ones we didn’t expect/ were involved in a huge twist
L🎉😢😢😢😢l😢
You didn’t expect him to kill Love?
@@johnkimble523 Lil bro pretending hes smart on youtube
Number 18 too
@@islixxneveryone knew he'd kill a less experienced version of himself.
oh im so scared for season 5 if he almost doubled his kill count in the space of one season, and now he doesn't even have a moral compass trying to hold him back
Season 5 will have The therapist, Paco, Ellie and characters that are still alive for the finale
Whats your theory on the finale? Will it be Joe's downfall? What will happen with Kate? Will he fall in love with someone from before?
@@milanek1527henry :0
@@milanek1527he will go to jail
@milanek1527 kate is going to survive ı think.
@milanek1527 and he is going to jail
It’s crazy Joe killed only one person season 3 besides Love who tried to kill him, and then season 4 everyone who died was him 😭
Because he was trying to change between season 2-3
@@theshape5187Or because Love killed them first before he did.
One of the things I believe made him so interesting is the fact that most of his first victims were not planned, the show made it seems like almost accidents or self defense
Yeah so it shows joe Doesnt enjoy killing people
He killed everyone in s4 on purpose with that intention to do so except rhys and that body guard who he choked out
So as ryan benji elijah and peach
Joe was a killing machine in season 1, and then tried very hard to keep himself in line over the next two seasons, with only two kills each in season 2 and 3. Not to mention in season two, the first kill was total self-defense and the second one was accidental. Even in season 3, killing Love was absolute self-defense, although obviously killing Marianne's ex was due to his unhealthy obsessive habits. But man, Joe has turned back into a butcher again in season 4, and now has no conscience about it. He needs to be killed or imprisoned for life in season 5.
We will see he is he’s strongest in season 5 right now
In the books at the end joe never gets caught and keeps doing the same thing til he grows old and dies
Yeah. Season 5 will have Ellie, Paco and other characters that survived, like the therapist.
Who will he fall in love with, this time? Who will he kill? Will he die? Anyone have a good theory? I saw a lot of people wanting Ellie to finish him off in the end.
Killing Love was technically self defense but he was still stalking another woman knowing exactly what Love was gonna do about that. Just like how he always takes people out around his obsession to keep it going(Peach, Benji, Forty indirectly). Yet when Love does it she's crazy. They both deserved to be in jail but they're not better than one another.
@@safcjoe7062 Tbh Joe is even worse because he cheated despite all that
Joe sent a lot of people to the shadow realm
forreal
Dude, I was shocked when I discovered he Mai Valentine’d Marienne in that cage.
I feel like his mom set him up to kill his dad. She knew her son was off, and she mentioned she wanted to kill him, then showed him the gun & it’s location..
Messed up she ended up abandoning him over it.
True. The reason why he is what he is started from his mother. His biggest issues also started from there I guess.
@mdrasedulhoque992 I despised his Mother.
Where is this scene his mom showing him the gun which episode??
He's become a different kind of monster! The violence definitely escalated and perhaps this means the end is near!
most evil kills were Beck & nadia’s friend
Agreed. Beck because it was deeply impactful. Women like Beck loses their life to man like Joe,everyday.
And Edward because that's the first kill he felt no remorse and deeply enjoyed framing his favourite student for that murder.
it's crazy how we we're on his side most of the time, we always see his pov but season 4 him is much crazier bruh, he was ruthless for framing nadia killing her own love interest
But before that he jumped in the river.. He wanted to kill himself just bcz of his sin that’s good side of his character , but anyhow when he saved that good side also died became more ruthless
Eddie's death in the last season had me shocked more than anything else--I can't believe he would do that to two teenagers who did nothing wrong to him, like besides him killing Beck, that's probably the most evil thing he's ever done.
he was kind of have to they were unto him...
2:52 the look in his eyes. Still one of my favourite kill scenes.
Yup honestly my favorite kill too
He was sick to begin with but he involved into such a disgusting piece of dirt
He’s like a fucked up version of Pokémon: Joéymon
Evolved*
Pls bring back Paco and Ellie for Season 5 or any other character who has survived the wrath of Joe Goldberg
I would again like to point out the time gap between Hendy and Ryan was a long time. 14 episodes between kills I think.
Didn't he steal his identity and let him go?
@@LifewithFlorence_265 he stole Will's identity and let him go
tbf he did try to kill others. he just failed (Candace, Forty, Love, Cary,)
Yup also the years 2019-2021 is a while too also when he killed Ryan it was so cold 🥶 it’s like the writers knew it was a long time since he killed someone and gave us he’s best kill
I still love Joe. 18 was the most satisfying kill because it was offscreen and yet it leaves us with the most intimidating scene of Joe simply leaving a message : YOU don’t mess with Joe.
you shouldn’t love him he’s literally a murderer
you love a stalker and murderer, who now finds killing to be “easy” and has come to terms with the fact that hes a horrible person? weird
@@murderjai people who only realized how evil Joe is after the 4th season's ending (i've seen lots of comments like that) are well.. interesting. but people that still don't realize how bad he is and say they love him must be psychopaths. i understand it's fiction but still.. how can you love a serial killer? (i love this show but i hate Joe)
weirdo
@@annam5898 I realized how evil joe was before the ending of season 4 and after he murdered love and frankly lost all of his personality, I didn’t for say like him but I didn’t hate him that much because I did really like love but she was a murderer so ig i was somewhat fine with it. after the 4th season tho? I genuinely hate joe and want him to be caught.
I wonder if Joe has killed other people that we don't know about inbetween Elijah and Benji? as with Elijah he seemed kinda shocked pretty much confirming that he was the first person he had killed since his dad or step dad when he was a kid.
but with Benji he seemed very calm and collected which makes me wonder Wether he had killed others inbetween that time?
He has killed others yes in the books he has killed way more then in the show he dated more women and killed more people before beck but mainly at the end of the chapters joe never gets caught and jeeps killing til he old and dies what made joe crazier in the show that caused him to kill more and more without knowing was i think love fucked him up you kinda see in s3 he started to hallucinate his other personality in a episode it just was clone look then back in s2 see himself as a kid joe became mentally insane now his other personality now almost has full control as you see in s4 s5 will be very much more intense and more kills
Mainly because he accepts himself as a killer so now he doesnt care but idk s5 he might look like he cares
He wasn’t calm. For starters he didn’t have any plan for Benji and might've even released him if he didn’t recognise him from the cab with Beck. He was also going through inner struggles whether to murder him or not before coming to the decision.
Elijah was his first legitimate kill because he was a kid when he killed his Dad. That's why he freaked out.
If season 4 had that many kills then I can’t imagine how many season 5 will have
I honestly feel like he won't kill a lot in season 5 (just my opinion)
@@PiusDosSantosTeresaAbreuit’ll be more trust me
I’m not saying any of ppl Joe killed were ex marines but he’s a skinny dude, some of these kills are like whatttt😂😂😂
He usually has a weapon or catches them off-guard these pretty much explain the ones where he obviously would’ve won
He’s a pussy who uses rocks and knifes so you shouldn’t expect much but unfair attacks from him
If there is a new season, I hope Joe gets what he deserves. I think he's done so much shit that I can't root for him in the slighest anymore.
at least 18 reasons he should be in jail EXCLUDING the stalking, you guys better not be confessing your love/forgiving him still 🤨
I mean half his kills were shitty people, but after that last kill, he most definitely lost my empathy
@@pokemypotato beck’s murder didnt do anything for you?
@@murderjainah
Um i dont think youve seen Marvel or DC fans
I know he’s a really shit person but the way the show is made puts it in his perspective so I kind of root for him
of all these deaths rhy’s death is more brutal the man was tortured and then strangled to death by someone he didn’t even know , imagine what was going through his mind when all that had happened
Who's rhy?? Soory I watched the show some time agoo
@@Hopelifeloveandtears Rhys Montrose, the guy he tortures in Season 4.
His irredeemable murders are beck’s and Nadia’s friend! Brilliant acting from Nadia’s actress in that scene!
I figured this vid would include his 19th kill, himself. When he jumped into the river and woke up the doctor said he technically died because his heart stopped beating.
Shame that he never killed for Love
He was very close to killing Forty though
he killed 8 for Kate guess...
He also killed the previous tenant in season 2. That's how he got the perfect apartment to stalk Love
wait where was this said?
Nah in the book she got dragged to rehab by her parents. In the show it only hinted at the previous tenant leaving in a hurry (s2 ep1). I think he mentions fluffy pink pillows somewhere, so I do assume it was that girl from the book
My guess is he’s gonna kill 3 more In s5 To get 21 blackjack. 😅
I thought this was a different body count 💀
at least 6
@@unpotdefraisealacreme24057 now, with Kate
@@steffe.g.2043 8 actually, iirc
For that kind of Body Count, I counted 8
Beck
Karen Minty
Candice
Delilah
Love
Sherry
Marianne
Kate
This is great. Anyone who enjoyed this, there's an Arnold Schwarzenegger kill count that's highly entertaining.
The way that in one season he killed double the amount of people he did in the last two seasons smh
no bcs i was team joe right up till 18 that's probably the worst thing he's ever done
I only want to know when will he bear the consequence of all his killing. Him getting away with them all is quite a loophole
I never realised how different the different dubs are. The german dub for Joe is not as dark and masculin, but a lot higher, and actually a lot creepier. He just has this lunatic feeling in his german voice
number 15 was the craziest
i think eddie was the craziest bc he really didnt think twice about it at all
His mental state in S4 was in the fucking bin
the last one was shocking joe framing his death damn!
(intense music intensifies)
i was just googling this yesterday lol
So there's a guy I recently got involved with who looks So Much Like Joe Goldberg they could be twins.
Watching this, helps me move on- so thank you C:
I can't finish it, by the way.
Had to stop at @1:52.
too much for me.
How can someone say Love was worse than him? She didn't kill as much as he did
combination of sexism and the show being told thru his perspective [so its easier to make excuses for him because of the narrator bias/rationalizations]
I would say he is on par with Love now. Before season 4, Joe was repulsed by his evil side and killed out of his unhealthy obsessions over girls, for self-preservation or in self-defense, while Love not only enjoyed killing but was sexually aroused by it. Joe has obviously accepted who he is by the end of season 4 and is more dangerous than ever, having no remorse now and access to Kate's money and influence.
@@tonyc7301 You're twisting things. Joe is much worse than Love. Joe didn't kill only unhealthy obsessions. He killed Beck and almost killed Candace because he doesn't care about consent or free will. And Love killed five people: her nanny, to protect her brother who was being raped; her husband, by accident; Candace and Delilah, to protect Joe; and Natalie, the only one who was planned and selfish at the same time. If she enjoyed or was sexually aroused by a death, was just this one.
@@SonOfHera u can honestly say it’s 50/50
@@SonOfHerathat’s still terrible dude… sexually aroused?😂
I just started watching Dexter & I kinda think Joe wouldn't be able to get away if dexter was hunting him
WHEN ARE WE GETTING TRAILER FOR SEASON 5
Technically the fourth guy is actually Joe's second kill, before Benji and after his mom's boyfriend
Homelander entered the building.
Joe almost dropped a 20 bomb
Does Joe giving Benji that peanut oil almond latte not count as a kill? Im confused.
Another walter white in making
Wdym by that lmao
@@jasonbloxor1773 villain protagonist
@@franciskaranja9293 he was a villain protagonist from the start tho
So at 13th... Does he enjoys it or not?
oh so THAT body count...
Love is not dead she comes and for revenge trust
Lmao only in his dreams
It’s okay to move on.
Joe killed more people this season........
I thought Rhys killed the guy on Joe’s table and the artist (the boy) in season 4. (Sorry I CANT remember names for the life of me.)
It was all Joe. Rhys had no idea who Joe was. He was a hallucination all this time even before Joe killed him, his dark side in fact. This season just shows how really dark his character has gotten. Btw the trailer for season 5 released; coming out in April 26!
Is Madeline in this list?
Where's Candace?!
love killed her not Joe
No ly I thought it was more in the beginning when the video started my guessing number was 20,I don't count bodies when I watch it I look at polt twist how he did and and why and some of them was trying to kill him
Which episode did joe kill vic
_"Eat the Rich",_ it's the third episode of Season 4.
If you actually think about it all of the deaths are in self defense or him trying to protect someone.
except most of the s4 kills. also he killed candace's fuckbuddy simply in a jealous rage, and beck just to protect himself
that’s what he tried to convince himself 😭…, you people need to know what an unreliable narrator means tbh
Por mi que mate a más personas, pero que no se termine la serie🥺💕
Puta psicópata hibristofílica...
Necesitas un psicólogo.
All of them weren't through season 4
YALL FORGOT BENJI LMAOOO
no hes number 2 lol
The White King Von
they forgot benji so that’s 19
hes number 2 lol
What about Candace? Did I miss something?
He is not one that killef her
Love killed her.
What type of body count? 🫣
Where's Dexter when you need him? Oh wait...
so great im in love
amateur.
Ayo? 🤨
RENEWTHECUPHEADSHOW!!!!
real