I have to say, I thought his acting was weak until I rewatched the show. What stood out to me is the flashback scenes of Candace leaving him. The way he portrays a younger, less mature, less controlled version of Joe in those scenes was really well done.
It’s still the audience’s fault that they are stupid enough to fall for him no matter how much they romanticize him, he’s still very clearly a serial killer.
Remember in gossip girl, probably the last season when Dan got ‘dark’? He’d got a book deal, got supremely arrogant and manipulative and basically alienated himself from Serena and the rest of the group Well THAT was when I realized Penn could actually act. He was so so good
The thing about “You” is it’s narrated by Joe, and he doesn’t see a huge problem with what he is doing which is why the viewer is prone to “root for him” before reconsidering it.
You are right! Because he makes everything look like an accident and also has some remorse and feelings for other characters, it triggers something in your mind that he’s “not all that bad” when in reality, he’s a serial killer with excuses 😅
Yeah true he gives a logical reason for everything. There's like this thin line between following your desires, giving a reason to everything and between stopping yourself and realising this is not okay. So a thin line between being good and bad. I think we can all be him but some are really him because they follow their desires and some just respect and understand that is not okay. I guess due to his childhood he can't understand that thin line maybe? Cause he wasn't taught that way? He was taught in order to get rid of something you need to vanish it...literally... Maybe that's why most sociopaths are like that? They can't fully understand that difference. They know they should because society says you'll be judged if you did.. but it just doesn't sit in their heads that's why they think hiding it is better. Just like pedophiles they seem to not fully understand what the difference is between a women and a child. The media around us says women should have smooth skin, look younger etc.. At a young age some people can't understand that fully and all these media or society thoughts are implanted in their heads so when they look at the real world they notice that only kids look that way while adults actually don't. There was no one to explain that fully in their heads...they seem to have trouble understanding that. Something related with their brain function or the way they were raised or both together.
I thought the same thing! Even his dialogue. The words he uses, the point he makes, the dry humor. It seems like so much was going over everyone's head which is very Dan Humphrey like
I remember a lot of people talking about You season 1 when it came on Netflix because they promoted a lot I think. I loved season one and I was so excited for the second season to come out. Joe was great in the first one and even better in the second
He actually was saying it was because he is caucasian and people are more forgiving because of that. What he said was quite deep and true. But yes, yes he is hot!
Lillian Supo Adekola it's a bit of a double-edged sword tho, being shoehorned as an intellectual only garners attraction for as long as the person is productive. Should someone that is intellectually creative fall on difficult times and lose their drive to innovate, they will quickly find that the people who they thought cared about them will just disappear until they are inspired once more. It's often why these eccentrics end up caring more about their work than other people, because they understand at a deeper level that relationships are temporary affairs.
But is everyone over looking his statement about how easily we forgive people that “check the right boxes” more so than others...that’s a good ass point.
Its not that people with his skin color or his gender get away with murder in our society its that we see ugly people as creepy and attractive people as charming. There are many experiments on youtube regarding this... ted bundy didnt fool all those women bc hes white, it was bc he was attractive
@@threetequilas3554 yeah, but his skin colour and gender contribute. That's what he was saying because he has said it more than once. But the attractive thing does help
Every interviews I watch to Gossip girls characters (specially Serena ones) I found messages of Gossip girl and that actually makes my day, honestly. This comments are the best !! And I also read them in Gossip girl voice 😂😂
john smith yeah, the title makes it sound like he stares straight ahead and it becomes creepy but it’s creepy at the end cause he goes from smiling to neutral
@@DaneTrotter did you pay attention to the interview at all? If you did then you know how they got to him smiling. He explained the whole thing about standing over an undressed person sleeping while fully clothed is creepy without doing anything. It was situational.
He's so good with his expression and body language even when he spent most times in silence. The pretentiousness, the judging look, the creepy stare, the fake sympathy they're just perfect.
Basically what he said about the “pretty privilege” was incredibly self aware. And it was refreshing to hear someone own it rather than “No...but it’s not all that” it away. Kudos to Penn.
I still don't get it. The instant Joe started showing her creeper/possessive vibes in S1, I was like "I AM SO OUT OF THERE". Other women really worry me sometimes....
@@dontbefatuousjeffrey2494 Its a pretty common fantasy though, and it is in the context of a fantasy. I'm sure if they were actually locked in a glass box with a legitimate person who's shown murderous intent, it would be a different story
@@dontbefatuousjeffrey2494 Same. As a woman I felt extremely disgusted with that character n I couldn't even imagine being anywhere near Joe. I never understood what other women see in him! I really hope it's just a Penn badgely crush & women don't actually get trapped into the words of serial killer irl.
Ok but u guys realise it’s just a twitter meme at this point right? Ppl who r saying this r 99% kidding around. No well adjusted person would actually wanna date joe.
“IT SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT HOW MUCH WE ARE WILLING TO BE PATIENT AND FORGIVE SOMEONE WHO INHABITS A BODY, THAT LOOKS SOMETHING LIKE MINE. THE COLOR OF MY SKIN, MY GENDER, THESE SORTS OF THINGS- THESE SORTS OF PRIVILEGES. AND HOW MUCH LESS WILLING TO FORGIVE PEOPLE WHO DONT FIT THOSE BOXES”
People like him because he's more of an antihero and you feel the need to root for him. If he was portrayed as an antagonist it would be a different take.
@@iloathepeoplewhorestilltal2774 The funny thing is, there is nothing more racist than that kind of shit. Funnier, i'm pretty sure that kinf of people think they is no problem to "switch roles" by insulting white people.
The only people that forgive and romanticize said behavior are easily manipulated teenage girls that develop crushes over these characters. So all the fault is on them. Go under any comments section for a You video and it's the girls that fawn over him.
i’m glad that he’s aware of the advantages his character had. no one would suspect he’s a murder because he’s a conventionally attractive white man. we’ve decided to stan
And what does a serial killer look like? I don't think anyone goes around saying/thinking, "yup that MAN is a killer because he's poorly dressed and ugly."
Eric Bell people profile black men as thugs and all this crazy shit based off the color of their skin or how they present themselves (dressing "black"), how they speak (AAVE), etc. let's not pretend.
Yeah... With Zac, I think he really got Ted's charming side down... But with Penn, he would have made his darker, psycho-killer side even more believable
i SCREAMED when he said “slide into my dm’s” WHY IS HE LIKE THIS?? HOW IS HE PLAYING A *MURDERER* BUT STILL THE MOST CHARMING MAN ON THE PLANET HELLO!??
Yesssss! I’m so glad someone said this. Nice to know I’m not the only one🤣 I don’t trust his look at all. And sometimes his commentary on the show sounds so much like Joe that I agree with your statement- Joe is passing off as penn
THIS MAN IS SO WOKE, SO INTELIGENT, SO WELL-SPOKEN, SO ARTICULATE AND SO THOUGHTFUL!!! Penn is amazing!! I feel like he is an underrated actor. He deserves more recognition.
"it's intended to function as a social commentary" "it says something about how much we are willing to be patient and forgive someone who inhabits a body that looks something like mine, the color of my skin, my gender, these sorts of things, these sort of privileges; and how much less willing to forgive people who don't fit those boxes" OMG love you penn!
@acorn, west oakland his percieved attractiveness also plays into how he's forgivable and people of all colors benefit from being considered attractive. There is also the fact that while people in America enjoy a fall from grace, we also love a comeback story. I always think of Mike Tyson. Idk how old you are but in the 80's he was praised for his boxing. In the 90's his popularity fell greatly. And in the 2000's he became a media darling. He is not White nor conventionally handsome nor was he wealthy.
Why would he want to shake hands literally right after shaking when he was walking into the interview?! I think it wasn't completely intended as such, it's simply his body language.
Can we take a moment and praise how beautifully he narrates/does commentary in You? Apart from his acting, I fell in love with the way he was narrating or what do you say commentary.
It's honestly some of the best narration I have ever heard. The way he plays with the words to get the perfect emphasis or expression without it ever sounding forced. It's genius.
Chris Walker Carrey is a type of Buddhist as well and went through a dark life and no longer finds celebrity meaningful, the illusion is broken. Kinda like in The Truman show.
-“What tv show have you been watching?” -“You” -“what?...” -“I’ve been watching you” -no... no you haven’t😰” -yes I have. I’ve been watching you for a year now”
“It says something about how much we’re willing to be patient and forgive someone who inhabits a body that looks something like mine, the color of my skin, my gender, these sorts of things, these sorts of privileges. And how much less willing to forgive people who don’t those boxes.”
Ginny What Yea I agree. He’s portrayed in the show as a nice person that you empathise with to some extent and that’s why, not because of his gender and whatever else. Way to unnecessarily shoehorn politics into a simple concept
@@ginnywhat5777 But Idris Alba is a good looking man and quite charming. Think you're missing the point, colour, gender, and privileges all play a role in how people in society judge you
JayBee0212 He’s portrayed as a nice person? He stalks, and invades the privacy of the girl he’s delusionally obsessed with from the very first episode. He kills people with no remorse, because he believes he’s entitled to being with the object of his obsession, and they stand in his way. If you think gender doesn’t play a part in how he’s perceived, then ask yourself, if you’d still think describe him as nice, if his character was played by Kathy Bates. Oh wait, Kathy Bates did play a character like him in “Misery.” Don’t think there were thousands of people trying to minimise and justify * her * actions. Or the actions of Glenn Close’s character in „Fatal Attraction.” Male stalkers get romanticised, because we tend to be more forgiving of men doing horrific things in the name of “love.” When they do it, it’s “misguided, but kind of understandable.” When women do it, it’s just “deranged and insane.” When Joe kills the shitty people in Beck’s life, he’s fulfilling the societally approved drive of being protective. When Peach tries to control Beck’s life, fans’ response is to call her an annoying psycho. If you think there’s no gendered double standard here, you haven’t been paying attention.
I feel like Colbert kept butting into Penn whenever he is trying to talk about the serious topics of You. Was quite annoying, I just wanted to listen to what he had to say.
I love how aware and vocal he is about such topics such as privilege and how having such acceptable features in society allows compassion and forgiveness that is not given to others outside of such features and groups.
Did this man just talk about white privilege? Who is this guy? I like him. Hes white and not naive Edit: First time ever getting 1k likes, thanks fellow humans!!
@@lc6726 lmao dude i love a good debate, but i can tell i would be wasting my time here. White privilege is real, because white supremacy is real. Im guessing you are caucasian? If so all i have to say is; "The longer you swim in a culture, the more invisible it becomes"
@@lc6726 first off im sorry to hear that. Black people bulling you is ignorant. The white people in my neighborhood get treated like family. The second thing is there are multiple supremacy groups. Yet none have the wealth of white people in comparison financial. Money alone is power. Then you put the fact that white people have high postions of power. Its just a coincidence that most neighborhoods with black people are deprived resources(local good paying jobs, better education, and programs to set us up to succeed)compared to a white neighborhood
2:15 I love how he said that. He outright addressed the privilege that comes with being an attractive, white man. Idk why it shocked me that he said that because it's a phenomenon that's so blatantly obvious, but it's so common to pretend that doesn't exist and attribute all successes and second chances to how good a person inherently is. Not all of us have that privilege to be accepted by society so unconditionally.
Imagine you walk into the audition room and before you say a word, "Holy shit that was creepy! You're perfect to play our sociopath!" "Uh, I'm the janitor."
Can we just appriciate Penn having his hand up for like 5 seconds waiting for Stephen to shake it and Penn just plays it off cool acting like nothing happened
they had just shaken hands a couple seconds before. why would he lean in to get another one? imo, penn was just sort of pointing towards stephen bc he was talking about him.
Maybe it was joe pretending to be a guy named dan the whole time....or maybe it’s dan who renamed himself joe because Serena ended up divorcing him. I mean it would kind of make sense as both YOU and gossip girl take place in New York, and joe and dan are pretty similar characters.
Yeah like at the of S1E09 when Beck told him she cheated on him and he started freaking tf out and immediately went back to "normal" after she told him she loves him. That was the episode that convinced me that he's a great actor.
Title: “... *without changing his expression* ” Colbert: “What about... can you go from smiling to creepy?” Penn: *completely changes his expression from smiling to expressionless.* Me: k
Yeah I thought he was going to make his eyes go dead or something which is another method. But it sounds like he does really do nothing, did nothing, but Stephen expected and acted like he did something.
What I don’t understand is that the whole dropping the smile and transforming into a “creepier” look isn’t that challenging? Or not as amazing as the audience made it out to be. You just fake smile? Make your eyes look all happy, then drop it, right? Do the dead look, and bam. creepy. Maybe add in a lil’ smirk.
I love how brief the interviews are .. In Egypt we get 3 hour programs with the actor telling us about his entire life with actual pictures from their childhood .. not to mention the 10 minute comercial breaks, but that’s a whole other thing
Melanie Rose I feel like it’s the weird little gap he has in his teeth, like they’re not perfect (which they don’t have to be, they’re fine) but idk what it is when he does it though haha
It’s the not blinking when he smiles that gets me. it’s just an unnecessarily long gaze and then there’s the gap but It’s not just any gap It’s a creepy gap 😭
I believe (despite everyone talking about his tooth gap) that it's because in the show, whenever Joe goes to his creepy about to kill mode is the only time you see him really smile/show his teeth in the show. Otherwise he smiles without his teeth. Normally.
In all seriousness. We look at *Joe* and we’re like “ugh I want someone like that.” And this doesn’t mean we want a killer, but someone who’s willing to discover every little thing about you and accept you no matter what your flaws may be. Granted, he might kill your best friend in the process so beware of that. But it just shows that WE as a society aren’t giving EACH OTHER enough attention and enough love, that we’re ready to accept anyone as long as that person is willing to commit to us. So let me ask you *reader* , are we narcissists for wanting someone like that, are we psychos, or plain simple romantics?
Penn literally took the time to explain the concept of what “creepy” is ( an action relative to its context) for Colbert to dwindle it down to a fucking look.
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“Be creepy”
Penn: *just stops blinking*
Ayee thank ya very much for all the upvotes
That’s the face my ex used to make when he was high, creepy as fuck, thank god we’re not together anymore 😅
Denisse Medina lmao, you think he just got dummy high, or he forgot to keep up the facade he was hiding?
NorwegianNig I really need you to not trip me the fuck out😂
NorwegianNig didn’t want to sleep anyway 😂
He’s like “I literally get applauded for doing nothin” *does nothin* *gets applauded* 😂
DaniDevilin it’s called staged audience reactions
It’s called most men
It’s called being a sexy intelligent man
He doesn't give himself nearly enough credit. His acting is amazing.
He seems to be a pretty humble guy. Great personality all around from what i've seen.
EXACTLY!! Love how humble he seems to be
Yess!!
Amazing the best
I have to say, I thought his acting was weak until I rewatched the show. What stood out to me is the flashback scenes of Candace leaving him. The way he portrays a younger, less mature, less controlled version of Joe in those scenes was really well done.
I like how Penn puts it out straight that they are purposefully romanticising the whole character so they can’t blame the audience for their response.
Yeah I kinda want him with Beck or love or (spoiler) stacy.
@@shubhd.kaushik5604 wait, where did you get the spoileerrr? Is the new season out already?
@@piepie3178 the shows based on a book series so it's probably from that
It’s still the audience’s fault that they are stupid enough to fall for him no matter how much they romanticize him, he’s still very clearly a serial killer.
@@shubhd.kaushik5604 that’s just incredibly stupid. Do you wish for these girls to suffer or something?
he’s finally getting the recognition he deserves
Figured out the Name of the Wind yet, Elir?
kvothe arcane proud of him
Remember in gossip girl, probably the last season when Dan got ‘dark’? He’d got a book deal, got supremely arrogant and manipulative and basically alienated himself from Serena and the rest of the group
Well THAT was when I realized Penn could actually act.
He was so so good
Dan Humphrey 😂😂
It’s what she deserves
The thing about “You” is it’s narrated by Joe, and he doesn’t see a huge problem with what he is doing which is why the viewer is prone to “root for him” before reconsidering it.
True
Like Dexter
Duh it’s called being the protagonist lol
You are right! Because he makes everything look like an accident and also has some remorse and feelings for other characters, it triggers something in your mind that he’s “not all that bad” when in reality, he’s a serial killer with excuses 😅
Yeah true he gives a logical reason for everything. There's like this thin line between following your desires, giving a reason to everything and between stopping yourself and realising this is not okay. So a thin line between being good and bad. I think we can all be him but some are really him because they follow their desires and some just respect and understand that is not okay. I guess due to his childhood he can't understand that thin line maybe? Cause he wasn't taught that way? He was taught in order to get rid of something you need to vanish it...literally...
Maybe that's why most sociopaths are like that? They can't fully understand that difference. They know they should because society says you'll be judged if you did.. but it just doesn't sit in their heads that's why they think hiding it is better. Just like pedophiles they seem to not fully understand what the difference is between a women and a child. The media around us says women should have smooth skin, look younger etc.. At a young age some people can't understand that fully and all these media or society thoughts are implanted in their heads so when they look at the real world they notice that only kids look that way while adults actually don't. There was no one to explain that fully in their heads...they seem to have trouble understanding that. Something related with their brain function or the way they were raised or both together.
He’s so very Dan Humphrey in real life. The articulate yet stammering through sentences thing works for him. Penn is kind of a dream boat.
Yeah, he's totally like Dan Humphrey. Oh god, I'm in love with him
iamjaquanna
Kind of? HE IS.
Yes!!!
I thought the same thing! Even his dialogue. The words he uses, the point he makes, the dry humor. It seems like so much was going over everyone's head which is very Dan Humphrey like
His intelligence is remarkably attractive.
so crazy how season 1, he didn’t get the hype and now he is everywhere getting the recognition
elizamaryjanee memes bro, the show blew up online after many memes were created during season 2 and it got the mass recognition the show deserved
season 2 was much better
I remember a lot of people talking about You season 1 when it came on Netflix because they promoted a lot I think. I loved season one and I was so excited for the second season to come out. Joe was great in the first one and even better in the second
It was released earlier later on Netflix picked it up.
season 2 was actually critically praised
I wish he turned to camera 3 and said “hi, you”
Like in Season 1 episode 5? 😭
Brooooo that would’ve been everything
YES
That would have been perfect
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️
Joe makes a really good job impersonating Penn Badgley here.
that gave me chills.
Gadekko hahaha wooowww ha
Right ? He even grew a beard for it! He‘s really stepping his game up
Wow.. was not ready for that
You managed to creep me out more than he did
Penn: “Im Married,Im Married”
Me: **Crying and throwing up**
🔥😂😂😂
😔😭😔
Girl! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂
his acting talent was not shown at all in gossip girl the way it was in you i mean he killed it
along with a bunch of other people, yes
Bdum tss
Literally.
I completely agree.
@hera N "he killed it". I see what you did there.
I'm so glad they picked someone as smart as penn for this character.
yeah! i think starring a pretty boy with no brain would have ruined this show
🙌🙌🙌
bruh he didn’t shake his hand and penn played it off so damn smooth
Why are people saying this? They shook hands at 0:14!!!!!!
@@EvanQuinones look at like 30 seconds in when they first sit down. Penn clearly had his hand out to shake again and colbert completely missed it.
Ya honestly it could be both. It doesn’t rlly matter tho lmaoo
@@scottdavis7152 I think it was just a hand gesture, I do that too and I know people who do it
that wasn’t asking for a hand shake, it’s a gesture
he mentioned his privilege, he mentioned that the show is MADE to romanticize Joe, he is so aware of stuff
Good looking people regardless of race and gender can get away with stuff especially if they have the aura that he has.
idk y he mentioned color or gender... people r willing to "forgive" because he's hot. has nothing to do with gender or race
I love his awareness
We love an INTELLIGENT WOKE man
@@UnknowableDandelion shut up
“so why do people wanna date joe despite him being a murderer?”
penn: so basically, i’m hot.
Yes 🤣🤣🤣
Well , he ain't lying , imagine if joe was played by DJ khaled
@@khulud374 You killed me 🤣🤣🤣
@@khulud374 duuuudeeee lol
He actually was saying it was because he is caucasian and people are more forgiving because of that. What he said was quite deep and true. But yes, yes he is hot!
He tried to grow out his beard so we wouldn’t recognise him.
BUT YOU CAN’T HIDE FROM US, JOE!
@Jenny Watson using that hat as a disguise was the dumbest idea ever tho lol, what kind of perry the platypus shit was that
naki LMAOOOO
@@natalijazivkovic8112 loooooool
naki LMAO HE REALLY THINK HE’S SLICK WITH THE HAT
🤣🤣
It’s the way he talks and control his voice
Grisel Griselda I disagree
Grisel Griselda wdym?
Grisel Griselda this is easily one the most confusing comment threads on RUclips
Whats goin on bru?
@@griselgriselda2901 wdym
I love how he doesn’t condone the fantasy and sets society straight. He’s hilarious. Excellent actor, amazing person.
In season three, he's gonna kill Camera 3.
😂😂😂😂😁💗 That's so funny💗
CLASSIC!!! 😂😂😂😂😂
Nehir Akın this really made me laugh😂😂
Hahaha .. that's hilarious
The biggest Hollywood mystery is “Who stole the fourth wall?”
he looks good yes, but most of his attractiveness actually comes from how smart and well spoken he is
True
Very true. Intelligence is extremely attractive. Being an intellectual is gorgeous
YES!
Lillian Supo Adekola it's a bit of a double-edged sword tho, being shoehorned as an intellectual only garners attraction for as long as the person is productive. Should someone that is intellectually creative fall on difficult times and lose their drive to innovate, they will quickly find that the people who they thought cared about them will just disappear until they are inspired once more. It's often why these eccentrics end up caring more about their work than other people, because they understand at a deeper level that relationships are temporary affairs.
YES
But is everyone over looking his statement about how easily we forgive people that “check the right boxes” more so than others...that’s a good ass point.
Baby Valentine I was getting ready to say the same thing!
Exactly I wasn't expecting him to say that, I was like DAMN GO OFF THEN
Except the boxes that he's checking is that he's good looking and charming.
@@manfriedm8697 he also meant being a white male
@@manfriedm8697 a white male too
He is so well spoken...
I feel like Stephen was cutting him off when the conversation was getting actually interesting.
Yes! Very frustrating. Penn wasn't even finished answering the question and Stephen would ask something new.
@@bribaby9465 yep… these talk show hosts don’t care about intellectual topics, they just care about entertainment
Talk show hosts have to manage the time even if it seems rude
@@c.c8752 then why do they ask such questions and give so little time?
@@mooma0912 some people give a short answer some tell a story
Beautiful man, highly intelligent. And he's aware of the irony of his success.
@Madina that people find a serial killer, who people should not find attractive, attractive
Really smart for sure
Eriq Kunz hes ugly af what u on bout
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@@lanuako what the hell are you talking about? he's actually very handsome and you need glasses.
This guy is wise. I couldn’t agree more with what he said about today’s society with regard to his character. I wish more people would understand it.
Exactly!! I think what he said flow over their heads. But I was like..ahhhhhh I see what you did there. And I completely agree.
I thought it was just meaningless applause break pandering, but wtv agree to disagree...
Its not that people with his skin color or his gender get away with murder in our society its that we see ugly people as creepy and attractive people as charming. There are many experiments on youtube regarding this... ted bundy didnt fool all those women bc hes white, it was bc he was attractive
@@threetequilas3554 you said it correctly
@@threetequilas3554 yeah, but his skin colour and gender contribute. That's what he was saying because he has said it more than once. But the attractive thing does help
Lonely boy seems to be getting all the limelight, seems like his books are doing it for him. XOXO Gossip girl
LMAOOOOO
Every interviews I watch to Gossip girls characters (specially Serena ones) I found messages of Gossip girl and that actually makes my day, honestly. This comments are the best !! And I also read them in Gossip girl voice 😂😂
Best thing I've read today
iconic
This was a good catch. Love that show!! 👍🏽💕💕
His voice also really helps to sell the character. It's so smooth and a little eerie at the same time.
Her: I like purple
Joe: she likes purple because she’s mysterious and curious. She dreams with unicorns with purple horns. Purple is God’s color.
English teachers could never 😂😂
Joe: “hello, you”
Haha I notice I do that and ever since I watched you I have related and connected with Joe so much😀
Tae Kook ARMYYYYYYYYY
Purple is the color of sexual frustration
“Without changing his expression”, but literally WHAT HE DID WAS CHANGE HIS EXPRESSION
He assumer a neutral expression. That's what he means by doing doing nothing and still coming across as ceepy.
john smith yeah, the title makes it sound like he stares straight ahead and it becomes creepy but it’s creepy at the end cause he goes from smiling to neutral
john smith the title said ‘without changing his expression’
The title is talking about on the show
@@DaneTrotter did you pay attention to the interview at all? If you did then you know how they got to him smiling. He explained the whole thing about standing over an undressed person sleeping while fully clothed is creepy without doing anything. It was situational.
Penn Badgley’s wife when he told people to slide into his dms: 🧢 🧢
Katy Hanegan 😂😂😂👏🏾👏
r/ComedyCemetary
Smart
And later: 🔪🦵
Katy Hanegan 😭😭
He's so good with his expression and body language even when he spent most times in silence. The pretentiousness, the judging look, the creepy stare, the fake sympathy they're just perfect.
Basically what he said about the “pretty privilege” was incredibly self aware. And it was refreshing to hear someone own it rather than “No...but it’s not all that” it away. Kudos to Penn.
He was talking mostly about white male privilege
@@yousseftamer6456 thank you. Not sure how the comment or skipped “my skin colour, my gender”
Its crazy how thats not a thing
Yeah that really stuck out at me. He’s someone who is well aware of what’s going on around him.
@@victorianojm24 it actually is if you took a damn second to think about it
Oof he didn’t shake his hand back so he’s probably gonna be in the box next
0:14
My thoughts exactly lol!
Brandi Nicole 0:14
LMFAOOOOOO
that was so smooth I hardly noticed it
Why does he look like he should have a British accent?
John Snow
Melanie Baker ikrrr
@@YenellyT I'm British and I agree, Penn looks British and Ed Westwick looks American
Melanie Baker agreeeeeeee!!
His teeth, maybe?
he's so well spoken wow, and incredibly talented too! his scenes with henry in season three were so wonderful
Penn : *"How far can we forgive white men?"*
Girls : *" Lock me in the glass box right now "*
I still don't get it. The instant Joe started showing her creeper/possessive vibes in S1, I was like "I AM SO OUT OF THERE".
Other women really worry me sometimes....
@@dontbefatuousjeffrey2494 Its a pretty common fantasy though, and it is in the context of a fantasy. I'm sure if they were actually locked in a glass box with a legitimate person who's shown murderous intent, it would be a different story
@@dontbefatuousjeffrey2494 Same. As a woman I felt extremely disgusted with that character n I couldn't even imagine being anywhere near Joe. I never understood what other women see in him! I really hope it's just a Penn badgely crush & women don't actually get trapped into the words of serial killer irl.
Ok but u guys realise it’s just a twitter meme at this point right? Ppl who r saying this r 99% kidding around. No well adjusted person would actually wanna date joe.
My friend literally said she wished she had a stalker but a hot one ofc
I cannot get over how attractive he is. Like, it’s literally mind blowing.
and that's why he's so forgivable , not because of his race and gender
@@goofyhouse4122 definitely not gender. Juries are much more sympathetic to women who commit murders than men.
He's one of those ppl your attracted to and dk why :/
You just want his money
Righr he looks like an average white guy that you would give a second glance to before walking away
“IT SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT HOW MUCH WE ARE WILLING TO BE PATIENT AND FORGIVE SOMEONE WHO INHABITS A BODY, THAT LOOKS SOMETHING LIKE MINE. THE COLOR OF MY SKIN, MY GENDER, THESE SORTS OF THINGS- THESE SORTS OF PRIVILEGES. AND HOW MUCH LESS WILLING TO FORGIVE PEOPLE WHO DONT FIT THOSE BOXES”
His words ring even louder now with all that's going on. Wise wise words.
tyscurlguide unfortunately.
I respect your comment but please stop yelling at me.
Ashley Swinford LMAOOO
People like him because he's more of an antihero and you feel the need to root for him. If he was portrayed as an antagonist it would be a different take.
I love that he mentioned his white privilege. Such an educated man who uses his platform for the better
well, so does Joe
@Dillon Stephens I hope so...
@@riwan5322 these people are that stupid, so much so, that what was typed is actually believed.
@@iloathepeoplewhorestilltal2774 The funny thing is, there is nothing more racist than that kind of shit. Funnier, i'm pretty sure that kinf of people think they is no problem to "switch roles" by insulting white people.
You kinda missed with this comment
Penn: wants to talk about how the toxic behaviour of white men is so easily forgiven, even romanticized.
Stephen: ok make faces into the camera plz
right
LMAO
The producer was probably saying to Stephen "this discussion is getting too heavy. Say something to lighten the mood."
The only people that forgive and romanticize said behavior are easily manipulated teenage girls that develop crushes over these characters. So all the fault is on them. Go under any comments section for a You video and it's the girls that fawn over him.
@@The482075 Exactly
i’m glad that he’s aware of the advantages his character had. no one would suspect he’s a murder because he’s a conventionally attractive white man. we’ve decided to stan
ah, a dolljimin i see
And what does a serial killer look like? I don't think anyone goes around saying/thinking, "yup that MAN is a killer because he's poorly dressed and ugly."
Kirti Reddy lmaoo i just realized i had the same pfp as them
Eric Bell people profile black men as thugs and all this crazy shit based off the color of their skin or how they present themselves (dressing "black"), how they speak (AAVE), etc. let's not pretend.
leone crowe what's "dressing like a thug"?? explain, without sounding like a racist.
him saying "I'm married" actually made my heart so happy
Wut
i was heart broken.
@@shakirghazali2890 ?
I felt rejected 🤣🤣
@@cinttcortez30 I feel you but realistically none of you had a chance only in your fantasies.
I just absolutely love him he creates community and connections
I’m just sayin’, Penn Badgley would have made a better Ted Bundy than Zac Efron.
v he would’ve been perfect for it
Oh my lord, YES!
I was literally about to type the same 😳 I can’t look @ Zac Efron the same again but I think Penn wld be even MORE convincing/creepy 👀
yeah i liked zac efron in that role but this dude is PERFECT for it
Yeah... With Zac, I think he really got Ted's charming side down... But with Penn, he would have made his darker, psycho-killer side even more believable
He needs to play Adrian Pimiento's long-lost twin with that beard.
Noice.
Long lost twin who is completely opposite of adrian's character 😆
cool cool cool cool
Bingpot!!
Laeiryn - hahah! Totally 👌🏼👌🏼
"He's so cute and sweet except for the fact that he's a killer."
Don't judge 😂
"He has a lot of flaws, but god damn if I don't think I can change him"
@@thebrideofghostface It was written to be funny.
@@sarakjeldsen769 As was my comment?
@@thebrideofghostface Sure
I love the show “YOU” and his inner voice makes me laugh so hard lol.
i SCREAMED when he said “slide into my dm’s” WHY IS HE LIKE THIS?? HOW IS HE PLAYING A *MURDERER* BUT STILL THE MOST CHARMING MAN ON THE PLANET HELLO!??
Shush
Most psychopaths are charming
Chill
Artificial charm is the first biggest trait of a sociopath
Mary Dragonee i love him
Dude got a type of face I can never trust I feel like Joe is just passing off as Penn
Greenbeansftw right he look like he really like tht lmaooooo
that’s why dan kinda creeps me out on gossip girl
Yesssss! I’m so glad someone said this. Nice to know I’m not the only one🤣 I don’t trust his look at all. And sometimes his commentary on the show sounds so much like Joe that I agree with your statement- Joe is passing off as penn
Greenbeansftw trueeeeeee
Nah I knew him from gossip girl first so he’ll always be cute little dan
Penn’s face: exists
Everyone: WOW THATS SO CREEPY WTF.
Me: does nothing
The world: crackhead
@@landewell6862 dude that's sad
Still Learning hahahahhaha
Such a scorpio thing Onl
Right? I dont know what everyone was raving about lol
THIS MAN IS SO WOKE, SO INTELIGENT, SO WELL-SPOKEN, SO ARTICULATE AND SO THOUGHTFUL!!! Penn is amazing!! I feel like he is an underrated actor. He deserves more recognition.
His PR team and manager before this interview: "Penn, DO NOT say the words white man!!!!"
Enjoli Desiree 😂😭 he’s the best
We still stan
😂😂😂😂😂
Lmfao fr but he did a good job explaining it
Spotted: Lonely boy just admitted to the world that he is a psycho killer. Careful S, you better watch your back.
XoXo, Gossip Girl.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
HAKDKDLDKS loved it.
🤣🤣
Could literally hear this in Kristen Bell's voice. 😂😂
😂🤣😂🤣😂you made my morning
Penn Badgley in every interview: “no, you don’t understand, I’m not doing it on purpose! They pay me to do nothing at all!”
I believe he’s an avid reader given his train of thoughts and broad thinking. I would love to read his suggestions.
Just like his character
Ellie?
@@blackmamba208 yes that's her
@@blackmamba208 👎🏻🤡
Suggestions on what? Lol
This guy would be perfect for a Ted Bundy movie
They've already made a Ted bundy film
Esther Hunt and it was a huge let down.
It was just meh. It was alright. It might have been better as a mini series. The movie felt so rushed because there’s so much to the story.
Felipe Gonzalez to bad it was Zac Effron
I’ve seen this comment sooooo many times lol
"it's intended to function as a social commentary"
"it says something about how much we are willing to be patient and forgive someone who inhabits a body that looks something like mine, the color of my skin, my gender, these sorts of things, these sort of privileges; and how much less willing to forgive people who don't fit those boxes"
OMG love you penn!
Yeah, like how everyone forgave Jeffrey Dahmer because he's a white man...
Jon T people gave him the benefit of the doubt before he was finally caught
Amy Elliott Dunne's son grew up just like her mom.
It was a very woke comment but not entirely true.
@acorn, west oakland his percieved attractiveness also plays into how he's forgivable and people of all colors benefit from being considered attractive. There is also the fact that while people in America enjoy a fall from grace, we also love a comeback story. I always think of Mike Tyson. Idk how old you are but in the 80's he was praised for his boxing. In the 90's his popularity fell greatly. And in the 2000's he became a media darling. He is not White nor conventionally handsome nor was he wealthy.
No one talking about how the dude literally ignored penns handshake
I was digging in the comments for that!
SophizzleDalizzle omg same!!!! He made it seem like it wasn’t a handshake, but more like him pointing at Stephen. Awkward but nice save
LMAO yes and he played it off well
But they shook already lmao 0:14
Why would he want to shake hands literally right after shaking when he was walking into the interview?! I think it wasn't completely intended as such, it's simply his body language.
he seems like a really humble and wholesome man in real life.
unpopular opinion: in the show i think he looks way creepier when he's smiling than when he's making a straight face
edit: *popular opinion
kat kopp not unpopular opinion
i feel like it’s cause of the gap
He just explained why because of the weird circumstance he is in makes it a lot creepier
Maybe because he doesnt smile with his eyes
but I mean he would have a cute smile if he wasn’t a killer
R.I.P. Camera 3's friends, family and exes
sean mac by far best comment.
Penn giving very well thought and smart answers.
Everyone: He’S sO HoT🥵
I think that's part of why he's attractive.
@intriguing Woman damn, breathe 😂 People are allowed to have different opinions.
being well spoken is very attractive
@intriguing Woman why did this comment strike a nerve for you wtf
He’s both lmfao
Can we take a moment and praise how beautifully he narrates/does commentary in You? Apart from his acting, I fell in love with the way he was narrating or what do you say commentary.
agree. have u heard his music? he has an amazing singing voice as well… I feel like his narration abilities are connected to that
It's honestly some of the best narration I have ever heard. The way he plays with the words to get the perfect emphasis or expression without it ever sounding forced. It's genius.
His voice is the bomb
Same
I love how is not afraid to tell the truth about how it actually is in this world.
penn badgley is the most woke white straight male i've ever seen
Have u listened to Jim Carrey?
Penn is from the Bahai faith.
Chris Walker Carrey is a type of Buddhist as well and went through a dark life and no longer finds celebrity meaningful, the illusion is broken. Kinda like in The Truman show.
Justin Baldoni as well, Baha'i Faith
Facts !!!
-“What tv show have you been watching?”
-“You”
-“what?...”
-“I’ve been watching you”
-no... no you haven’t😰”
-yes I have. I’ve been watching you for a year now”
Lol
That’s why it’s called that ;)
Halle Jordan Stanley or u could say You the show on Netflix or something like that so ppl don’t think ur a stalker 👀
Lol any time I mention watching the show, my friends get super confused like this.
That's actually a conversation I had with my friend a few days ago and she said you creeped me out for a second 🤣
the way he was talking about the social commentary of the show is what truly makes it genius and proves how well spoken he is crazy
“It says something about how much we’re willing to be patient and forgive someone who inhabits a body that looks something like mine, the color of my skin, my gender, these sorts of things, these sorts of privileges. And how much less willing to forgive people who don’t those boxes.”
Ginny What Yea I agree. He’s portrayed in the show as a nice person that you empathise with to some extent and that’s why, not because of his gender and whatever else. Way to unnecessarily shoehorn politics into a simple concept
@@ginnywhat5777 But Idris Alba is a good looking man and quite charming. Think you're missing the point, colour, gender, and privileges all play a role in how people in society judge you
Great, now make faces at the camera.
lilly anne
Very good points.
JayBee0212
He’s portrayed as a nice person? He stalks, and invades the privacy of the girl he’s delusionally obsessed with from the very first episode. He kills people with no remorse, because he believes he’s entitled to being with the object of his obsession, and they stand in his way.
If you think gender doesn’t play a part in how he’s perceived, then ask yourself, if you’d still think describe him as nice, if his character was played by Kathy Bates.
Oh wait, Kathy Bates did play a character like him in “Misery.” Don’t think there were thousands of people trying to minimise and justify * her * actions. Or the actions of Glenn Close’s character in „Fatal Attraction.” Male stalkers get romanticised, because we tend to be more forgiving of men doing horrific things in the name of “love.”
When they do it, it’s “misguided, but kind of understandable.” When women do it, it’s just “deranged and insane.” When Joe kills the shitty people in Beck’s life, he’s fulfilling the societally approved drive of being protective. When Peach tries to control Beck’s life, fans’ response is to call her an annoying psycho. If you think there’s no gendered double standard here, you haven’t been paying attention.
That point he just made is exactly why ted Bundy got away with SO much
Yup, he was attractive and charming, he didn’t fit the serial killer stereotype
I feel like Colbert kept butting into Penn whenever he is trying to talk about the serious topics of You. Was quite annoying, I just wanted to listen to what he had to say.
Cat Rheeder yeah he was trying to do bits, I wish he would have asked him more questions about what he’s saying. His mind seems so interesting.
I love how aware and vocal he is about such topics such as privilege and how having such acceptable features in society allows compassion and forgiveness that is not given to others outside of such features and groups.
4:56 is when it actually starts
Thank you people like you who give time stamps are literal angels. Thank you
Thank you kind human
I love you
when he did that i couldn't help but smile. it made my coochie jump
thank youuuu
Penn: literally just blank stares into camera 3
Everyone: WOoow 👏🏼👏🏼 🥵👏🏼👏🏼
LMAOOOOOOO
Lol, I was like "Whaaaa?" Not even a good stare, like he said - nothing. 🙄🤦
@@zima3181 To be fair it did look creepy. It's the eyes.
Did this man just talk about white privilege? Who is this guy? I like him.
Hes white and not naive
Edit:
First time ever getting 1k likes, thanks fellow humans!!
@@lc6726 lmao dude i love a good debate, but i can tell i would be wasting my time here. White privilege is real, because white supremacy is real. Im guessing you are caucasian? If so all i have to say is;
"The longer you swim in a culture, the more invisible it becomes"
leone crowe you’re not actually slavic. You’re a white american trying to excuse slavery by dragging their heritage into the mix.
@@lc6726 first off im sorry to hear that. Black people bulling you is ignorant. The white people in my neighborhood get treated like family. The second thing is there are multiple supremacy groups. Yet none have the wealth of white people in comparison financial. Money alone is power. Then you put the fact that white people have high postions of power. Its just a coincidence that most neighborhoods with black people are deprived resources(local good paying jobs, better education, and programs to set us up to succeed)compared to a white neighborhood
@@lc6726 its sounds you gotten the wrong end of the stick. That doesn't mean white privilege is fake. It just didnt apply to your life.
On his ig he is very woke
2:15 I love how he said that. He outright addressed the privilege that comes with being an attractive, white man. Idk why it shocked me that he said that because it's a phenomenon that's so blatantly obvious, but it's so common to pretend that doesn't exist and attribute all successes and second chances to how good a person inherently is. Not all of us have that privilege to be accepted by society so unconditionally.
It literally has nothing to do with race. Besides, white people are a minority in the world.
Imagine you walk into the audition room and before you say a word, "Holy shit that was creepy! You're perfect to play our sociopath!"
"Uh, I'm the janitor."
🤣
Burn!!! 🤣🤣🤣
He looks like Charles Manson and Ted Bundy at same time, it's scary.
Ning Li ted buddy ? 💀🤣😂😂
True! I watched the ted bundy tapes before i watched You and i really got creeped out bc i remember ted in him
Damn I thought the same too
Well they all have something in common, they were all born in November.
Are you in my brain 🧠
penn covering up the fact that his handshake was rejected was so smooth
Makeup By Zoe 😂😂😂😂😂
They. Already. Shook. Hands.
@@FudgyTheWhale_ hehe..aww but it looked like he wanted to do.it.again
When?
@@assikamei2558 0:30
0:29 the way he didn’t shake his hand 😭
"A real Charlie Manson vibe"
Penn: "WHAT"
he actually does look like a refined and upgraded young manson
Imagine being married to such a “woke” man. Wooo.
Tim Evans no. you can be educated and still be blind to social issues.
Jmlsgm you’re very much right.
Tim Evans 😭😭 why you mad?
Tim Evans who hurt you
Tim Evans thats not very wOkE of you tim
Why is no one talking about how he didn’t shake his hand ?😭😭😭
I’m so confused
DIRTYSUSIEJEAN HE PLAYED IT OFF SO SMOOTH 😂
that was so awkward
But he did... They shook hands... Then they sat down???
They shook hands at 0:14
0:30 home boy just wanted another hand shake lol
Can we just appriciate Penn having his hand up for like 5 seconds waiting for Stephen to shake it and Penn just plays it off cool acting like nothing happened
Sxbah his character in the show is really good at that too
Yess that what so rude by the other man
they had just shaken hands a couple seconds before. why would he lean in to get another one? imo, penn was just sort of pointing towards stephen bc he was talking about him.
go back and watch the beginning again
gossip girl gets bored and starts butchering people's lives again
Serena divorced him so he started this
Lonely Boy really fell off.
I heard that his first victim was Serena Van Der Woodsen
Maybe it was joe pretending to be a guy named dan the whole time....or maybe it’s dan who renamed himself joe because Serena ended up divorcing him. I mean it would kind of make sense as both YOU and gossip girl take place in New York, and joe and dan are pretty similar characters.
@@Muhammad-lr8un that would explain why his saying life seems to start with Candice in his late 20s
When he does the crazy eyes on You...that sells it for me. He just has a way of looking insane that's creepy as hell
Yeah like at the of S1E09 when Beck told him she cheated on him and he started freaking tf out and immediately went back to "normal" after she told him she loves him. That was the episode that convinced me that he's a great actor.
@@mountainstream8718 I know what you mean! That was remarkable.
it made him 100x hotter when he shed light on the “privileges” topic. respect and some more adoration for you, penn 👁👁
@Kelly McDaniel it is but how many celebs do u see bringing it up
@@a1eyaaaaaaaaa nowadays? Most of them.
Nah it made him less attractive
Kind of came off as virtue signaling to me.
@@erikamendez6999 not really, unless it's performtive
everyone: *laughs at the word titillating*
😂😂😂 we're all so immature
Maya no one
An entire room of adults : haha he said tit
Reauna lmfaooooo
“Hey camera 3”- Penn Badgley
I just died!!
Title: “... *without changing his expression* ”
Colbert: “What about... can you go from smiling to creepy?”
Penn: *completely changes his expression from smiling to expressionless.*
Me: k
Yeah I thought he was going to make his eyes go dead or something which is another method. But it sounds like he does really do nothing, did nothing, but Stephen expected and acted like he did something.
the only thing he did was change his expression😂
What I don’t understand is that the whole dropping the smile and transforming into a “creepier” look isn’t that challenging? Or not as amazing as the audience made it out to be. You just fake smile? Make your eyes look all happy, then drop it, right? Do the dead look, and bam. creepy. Maybe add in a lil’ smirk.
I love how brief the interviews are .. In Egypt we get 3 hour programs with the actor telling us about his entire life with actual pictures from their childhood .. not to mention the 10 minute comercial breaks, but that’s a whole other thing
Love this
💕
we have long and short in England ))
Honestly his smile is what creeps me out every time.
Melanie Rose oh my god me too
Melanie Rose I feel like it’s the weird little gap he has in his teeth, like they’re not perfect (which they don’t have to be, they’re fine) but idk what it is when he does it though haha
It’s the not blinking when he smiles that gets me. it’s just an unnecessarily long gaze and then there’s the gap but It’s not just any gap It’s a creepy gap 😭
LifeFilmz haha yes! 😂
I believe (despite everyone talking about his tooth gap) that it's because in the show, whenever Joe goes to his creepy about to kill mode is the only time you see him really smile/show his teeth in the show. Otherwise he smiles without his teeth. Normally.
In all seriousness. We look at *Joe* and we’re like “ugh I want someone like that.” And this doesn’t mean we want a killer, but someone who’s willing to discover every little thing about you and accept you no matter what your flaws may be. Granted, he might kill your best friend in the process so beware of that. But it just shows that WE as a society aren’t giving EACH OTHER enough attention and enough love, that we’re ready to accept anyone as long as that person is willing to commit to us. So let me ask you *reader* , are we narcissists for wanting someone like that, are we psychos, or plain simple romantics?
Por que no los tres?
Wait candace that side? 😹
Psychos 😹😹
There's a fourth option, simply dumb
But every girl wants a hot guy to love her and give her a lot of attention. If an ugly guy likes a girl she thinks he is creepy
Penn literally took the time to explain the concept of what “creepy” is ( an action relative to its context) for Colbert to dwindle it down to a fucking look.
Yeah it seemed like he didn't listened at all lmaoo
LITERALLY WHAT I WAS THINKING
Right?!
Omg. I was thinking that. He literally just said you have to be in an inappropriate situation and do nothing. Lol
time constraints
What a well spoken gentleman! He feels like old Hollywood, all class and intellect and proper ❤️
When he said “a real Charlie manson vibe” penn badgley was so shocked lmaooo “what?!?!” 5:15
isidra noyola okay but he looks like manson hes gotta play him at some pointtttttt
HHAHAHA
kaylala okay but he looks like everyone lmaoooo!!! ted bundy , manson , etc
He was like I'm just being myself, fs! Lol
He said “WAS IT”
why is it that every time i see him he has a new set of teeth.
Nogget 😂what? Please explain
@Fo od Yea, I don't recall him having as many gaps in the show.
TeamFamily he definitely did! I noticed it because I have a tooth cap too so it make me feel good :)
@@AdamWasHere He does, you probably didn't notice it. He doesn't smile much on the show, by reason of his character.
What? LMAO
Penn Beardley's Method Acting tip of the day: Do nothing
I love how by complimenting his acting they’re also insulting his face and he’s just like “Idk how to take this”