@@RomanZolanski123 It's also the present, for many of us here in the USA. Lots and lots of anxiety to be had; boatloads of it. It's like a never-ending buffet of anxiety; til you choke on it and merely WISH you were dead. Wow, that went to a really dark place. :)
So true! I love it...as I just woke up at 3:30am with my usual mid-sleep anxiety...and this came into my feed. I swear RUclips AI literally reads my mind. Enjoyed their exchange thoroughly.
@@PrincessRamsha999 Nope, that's a well-known Gucci logo. He's wearing their bee embroidered silk tie in black. You can get one brand new for a mere $220. 😉
It is 2020 and I just watched two men have an honest discussion about anxiety and wanting to be liked and not feeling good enough as themselves and neither of them made a joke about those feelings. Neither of them pretended that they didn't have feelings. Neither of them pretended that they didn't have that feeling and need. They talked about the process of learning to separate how people feel about you and how you see yourself. You know, the world is a messed up place right now, but this just happened and I'm thinking that we might eventually be okay. Wholesome masculinity is becoming more mainstream and men are having the courage to talk about their feelings in public with other men and that is fucking incredible. I'm so fucking proud of these guys and I love them so much.
@@canadiantemple toxic masculinity is not about one's identity as a man. doing some research about what toxic masculinity actually is might help. a lot of really smart people have really smart things to say about men's experiences and why so many men participate in and perpetuate toxic masculinity.
Stephen and John: **casual banter** Stephen: "Do you think your anxiety is what makes you feel the need to not let anyone see the real you?" John: "and I- oop"
Speaking of anxieties... My top 3 assumptions when the doorbell rings: 1. Murderer 2. Police telling me everyone is dead 3. That book I ordered about positive thinking
I love John Mulaney’s work, but in retrospect knowing he and his wife got divorced the “You’ll never really know what I think of you, and I’ll never really know what you think of me” moment hits haaaard
@@_aiko020 I think he really appreciated that question, because it's likely that it's a thought he hasn't had before. I think John maybe learned something new.
Bill Hader and him have been forthcoming about their own issues with mental health, and using medication to help. They don't put a lot of it into their comedy, but you can find plenty of interviews where they talk about it.
I like the fact that they don't really force laughter and instead talk sincerely and allow awkward pauses. It shows the real respect that they have for each other
John Mulaney on Fallon: Here’s this crazy story about how I went to a concert with Pete Davidson! John Mulaney on Colbert: I will never truly reveal who I am as a person.
Fallon is like having candy for dinner while Colbert is a full-course meal at a nice restaurant. Two totally different experiences and feelings of satisfaction.
John Mulaney seems to understand Gen Z and a lot of us relate to him. A lot of people his age and older and even a bit younger don't. He's someone that we would be inclined to listen to.
@@setrataeso for me, he just isn’t as dismissive as many older people tend to be. He acknowledges us and a lot of the jokes he makes has a point that seems very relatable to our generation. For example, he has jokes about children (13 year olds, and a lot of the Sack Lunch Bunch), but he makes jokes without the implied insults that are found in many other statements made by adults. This is just my take. All in all, it’s probably because he’s a tall child from the 50s. Edit: “Typical” Gen Z things are dark humour, mental health, self-deprecating jokes, annoyance at adults (every generation has it but it felt necessary), etc. 🙃
Don't kid yourself Moonchild. I'm 78 and I relate to John Mulaney better than any comedian I can ever remember - British or American. He makes me laugh out loud all the time. He also makes me pause to THINK. Amazing young man.
I think John Mulaney is wonderful and incredibly insightful and emotionally open, which makes him so relatable. There's such a warmth and niceness to what he does, he never feels mean-spirited unless he's making poking fun at himself. But I think you might also remember that, like, John Mulaney isn't old lol. Older than 16, sure, but people in their 30s can remember being teens and early 20 somethings - it doesn't feel so far removed. And honestly, a lot of those anxieties might persist into adulthood; it's kind of all part of a similar stew (although I am sure the specific worries might be a little different, informed by current times and tech, etc.) But as long as you're empathic and not cynical, I think that makes anyone relatable. And John is all those things. He's definitely not dismissive. And I also think he's such a kid still, that the childlike whatever comes through. That's why I think the sack lunch bunch special was perfect for him. And it's also why so many people older and younger probably feel a similar connection to him. He might just be one of the best human beings :)
It's interesting that John went into having different personas, since Colbert really became a star by playing a character and has talked about being afraid to come to CBS and have to just be himself and possibly be rejected.
he see's the genius, especially with that wikipedia, heaven/hell joke. same with his other interviews with mulaney, there's always a few moments you notice stevens mind turning, deciphering where the joke will go but being presently surprised at the punch line/qiup.
They’re both from the New England area I think. They both grew up catholic. They both did sketch comedy. They are both writers. They have a lot in common.
JazGalaxy Colbert is from South Carolina and Mulaney is from Chicago, but being raised catholic is definitely something that resonates with both of them. Same with Conan and Colbert
Ah yeah he could just, like, get a Xanax prescription as long as he tells a doctor that sometimes he gets nervous on airplanes. I wonder if he's ever tried it.
"Just water for me, and tremendous anxiety." "Is that why you never let everyone get to know the real you?" "Oh. Can I have a second?" Stephen and John are the ideal friends who press them to tell the truth and check up on them.
I hope John knows we love him and we're rooting for him. Being funny is a part of who he is but even when he's not providing laughter for other people, he deserves love and support. We're glad you had the courage to change the things you can. Get well soon JM! Also those post-rehab jokes are going to be hilarious.
I was looking for a comment like this. I'm so proud of him for getting the help he needs, this is one of my all-time favorite, real, raw, and we can actually glimpse who he is even if it's just a little bit.
@@papl20 Yes one of my favorite JM interviews. I'm also a huge Colbert fan. Not only is he brilliant and hilarious but he is also open and sincere. He's able to get genuine responses from his guests .
His post intervention and rehab appearance with Seth Meyers is just as vulnerable and raw as his interview here with SC. If you haven't seen it I highly recommend watching it. Seth's team, like Stephen's team, kept the RUclips post to one continuous segment instead of breaking it up. Doing so really keeps the integrity of the conversation the hosts have with John.
Toasted Joe exactly. Mulaney could have reacted like one of those “repressed people who can’t have a real conversation” but he didn’t and that was a great, rare moment we’re all lucky to have seen.
Did you hear the utter silence from the audience when they became completely candid and insightful? It's like no-one wanted to spoil the moment. Beautiful example.of kind humanity. :)
I kind of assumed that the audience were just as terrified as me that someone might be about to express a genuine emotion. I was practically behind the couch at one point, sweet Lord. I need a lie down, goodness me...
TV anarchy, sounds like a great idea :D Though unfortunately I think there's too much at stake these days, what with social media being the way it is at the moment.
@@danielr3522 lol agreed. Social media didn't exist, he'll we had to remember to record the show on the VCR. Some fancy-arsed families could program it to automatically start recording at the selected time. Back at a time when we still had our cassette players and tried to record our fave song on the radio while abusing the dj for talking over it. So rude.
Eeh, they were simpler times back then, weren't they? I kinda miss the days when if you wanted to abuse radio DJs for ruining the end of your favourite song, you had to do so by post rather than by tweeting them. (I don't miss having to program the VCR though, that really was a pain in the butt.)
I think we’re seeing the beginnings of a new Netflix series. “John and Stephen: seriously funny.” With comedy sketches sprinkled with moments of philosophical exploration
I've watched this particular interview over 50 times since it was released,,,, and y'know, their honest discussion of anxiety combined with their natural sense of humor really seems to help me find something to smile about in 2020.
It's weird to hear him mention siblings. Based on his stand-up and the interactions with his parents he talks about, I always pictured him as an only child. Huh.
Same. Valid point about the Catholicism in the replies though. One would think that would contradict my assumption that he’s an only child but I guess I managed to skip over that
"If there's a hell, I think it's an encyclopaedia, and you can just look up what everyone in your life thought about you. And if there's a heaven, it's a Wikipedia, and you can just change that." - John Mulaney, 2020.
"'If there's a hell, I think it's an encyclopaedia, and you can just look up what everyone in your life thought about you. And if there's a heaven, it's a Wikipedia, and you can just change that.' - John Mulaney, 2020." - Maryam
''''if there's a hell, I think it's an encyclopedia, and you can just look up what everyone in your life thought about you. And if there's a heaven, it's a Wikipedia, and you can just change that.' - John Mulaney, 2020.' - Maryam. " - Longpig
“‘If there’s a hell, I think it’s an encyclopedia, and you can just look up what everyone in your life thought about you. And if there’s a heaven, it’s a Wikipedia, and you can just change that.’ - John Mulaney, 2020.’ - Maryam.’ - Longpig” - Gianmarco Fanti, 2020.
@@redwan2040 I think you are thinking of Direct action versus opinion. If you've done something to hurt someone that is your fault and your responsibility. Someone's opinion about you is something that is hard to control once someone has made up their mind about you so it's best not to worry about. Hope I explained that right :)
Wow, Mulaney went deep there, on stage in front of cameras. Way more introspective in that single moment than some people I know ever go. Good for him. And Stephen as well. What a great segment.
Not gonna lie i had a sad feeling when he said "Would they like me as me and not me just 'poking my head out of the blanket'". I hope he knows he's way more than a comedian for a lot of people.
i am not understanding what “poke your head out of a blanket” means metaphorically. does it mean if he isn’t putting on a show or character will people like him?
Colbert is a pure class act. He never forces anything or tries to be above his guests. Incredible interviewing skills without all the pressure that often comes with shows of this nature. And of course Mulaney is a gentleman and a scholar, which helps too.
@@extremelylongwords That also has to do with the fact that Stephen knows this part of the interview went super long. He says "I'd *like* to be back with more John Mulaney," because he wants to make sure after the editing that there's enough time to talk about the actual project John worked on. But he recognizes how important that interview was.
This interview hits different after hearing he went to rehab :/ I have someone who suffers from cocaine addiction and hearing him talk about he doesn’t like what he sees in the mirror and his different version of himself hits hard because that’s exactly what cocaine helps you to do. It makes you feel like your on top of the world and without that substance who really are you? Sorry got supper long but I hope he feels better soon ❤️
6:30 - You can see that John is a genuine person. He takes his time to deeply think (and search his own emotional motivations) then provides an honest and profound response. One of the theories about laughter is that its function is not to respond to things that make you laugh. Laughter is a way to discharge discomfort/tension, especially within the one who is laughing. When Stephen asked the follow up, John's laughter was a way to release some of the tension in the moment in order to prepare and go even deeper into his own psyche/experiences. This is what makes John Mulaney (and Stephen Colbert) great. It's their willingness to dive into the experience which connects to the question/moment through vulnerability and be able to bring back up and share the gold. Or something like that. :)
That was an incredibly rare moment for television and media in general... That kind of raw, human connection is something that every producer or actor/actress is trying to capture, and yet, while it may sometimes be hard to tell when something is acted, you can *always* tell when someone is indeed being candid. That was beautiful and I feel seeing this has enriched my understanding of this show, comedy, and in many ways, the world.
If you haven't yet, I really suggest watching Stephen's being interviewed by Anderson Cooper. It's fascinating and so insightful. Really lovely to watch.
Craig Ferguson used to do this kind of thing all the time. He’d ask his guest if they were in therapy, and then he had a fake pipe and he would pretend to smoke it while asking very deep, personal, and existential questions. He would then prod the most revealing answer he could out of his guest, and once the atmosphere became heavy, he would gloss over the heaviness with a nonsensical resolution. It was an interesting way of harnessing sensitive information without making the guest feel vulnerable.
This guy has a deep well of sadness inside him. Takes tremendous courage to be that emotionally raw and honest, especially in front of other people. I wish him hope and healing as he wrestles with his demons.
That's every single person who's honest with themselves. It's part of the human condition. We face disappointments, lose people, hurt people, people hurt us, we grow old, and eventually people lose us. Kudos to John for not sanitizing that: I think at least few less people felt alone tonight.
His recovery from alcoholism and ability to inspire others to lead a healthy, positive, inspiring life is what makes John a truly amazing human being. Everybody has demons, but some haunt you forever, and addiction is a shadow that never leaves you.
@@soccrstar4 Wow, I didn't know he was an alcoholic. I was oddly transfixed by this interview last night and I think it has to do with more than just his personality.
@vox qui vive I remember hearing Hasan Minhaj say once that Jon Stewart had told him that, when looking for new material to write comedy, he should "find where your discomfort is, and go there." That stuck with me.
terradisiena Honestly Seth Meyers and Trevor Noah both have really nice low key segments that explore deep subjects. It depends completely on the guest.
What's interesting is that during a conversation about being themselves vs needing to make people laugh, they both drop their comedic personas and present their real selves. Refreshing to see a moment of honesty like this.
I love how in depth they went. Sometimes you forget that celebrities are real people and no amount of fame and money can fix mental health so the fact they talked about it in a light manor is nice to watch
@@seventeenhamilton5362 yeah exactly. Colbert was a crazy choice to succeed Letterman. But it works. One day Mulaney will work too as the creative choice.
@@Ash-pv6zh He checked into rehab for alcohol/cocaine abuse. He abused substances in his teens/early twenties and went sober at 23. Checking into rehab is a good step showing that he is serious about recovery. We love you John! ❤️
I would rather people assume I'm a terrible dancer than for them to see it. I cannot be convinced otherwise. The rest of the video I thoroughly loved, however.
@@LycanLink Don't people love terrible dancers though? I don't know but for me, nothing is better than seeing someone sober dancing really badly at a party and enjoying themselves than to see that person in the corner who thinks they'll seem cooler if they don't dance and end up wasting an opportunity to dance like a weirdo
@@fairy5668 My confidence is low enough for me to assume nobody would ever see me as "cool," so rather than embarrass myself, I'd prefer to be the guy that didn't stick out and show off how lame he was.
@@LycanLink If you already know you're not cool then get out there and go crazy go stupid ahhh. You will never regret dancing at a party - Signed, someone who used to pretend I was too tired to dance because I was too scared to look embarrassing in front of other people
Speaking of anxieties... My top 3 assumptions when the doorbell rings: 1. Murderer 2. Police telling me everyone is dead 3. That book I ordered about positive thinking
Door-answering-fear story: I’m a Londoner. My housemate (room mate) is a fellow Londoner and she has Sri Lankan parents. Shortly after we moved into our flat, the doorbell rang unexpectedly- she freaked the fuck out; jumped, quick breathing, really scared. Later, I asked her why she’d been so scared - after all it was just an Amazon guy. She was like, “well this is kind of silly”, and then told me about how when she was 8 y/o, she accidentally opened the door to the Tamil Tigers 😬. There are lots of Sri Lankan immigrants in London, and also some members of the Tamil Tigers. They go round intimidating Tamil people and collecting money for the organisation - or at least they used to, when the conflict was still ongoing. Anyway, a group of TT thugs came to her house when she was 8, and she innocently opened the door, thinking they were her Dad’s friends. Her Mum saved the situation by pretending to be Iranian and making them go away. 😳 So yeah, when the story was finished I said, “mate it’s not ‘silly’ that you’re scared of opening the door at all - in this context it’s entirely fucking reasonable!”
I swear to god, I’ve been obsessed with this man’s personality for some time now and seen him a lot of interviews and specials and shit. When he answered that question is the most serious and focused I have ever seen him, it was a shock really. I hope he’s doing good.
@@caro1ns It's not the priests who are shocked by the truth of sin; it's the sinners. No one can know the extraordinary love of God until they first know themselves for all that they are: dastardly and depraved, yet somehow worth the death of God.
I think moments like these are the reason why Colbert and this show are so successful. True human connection and the ability to have a back and forth with the guest, not talk over them or one-up them, but to lift each other up or to courteously challenge each others' thinking...I could listen to this for hours! I just love watching Colbert on other interviews--imagine if Stephen had a podcast?!
Colbert meeting the moment like that....was everything. Expressing where he was as a comedian while simultaneously making Mulaney feel better about where he was at/shifting his perspective of the audience...well you can see how much they respect and enjoy each other.
This was a very profound conversation, as someone who is a validation seeker it was good to hear someone talk about converting that need into a healthy mentality.
John Mulaney seems to understand Gen Z and a lot of us relate to him. A lot of people his age and older and even a bit younger don't. He's someone that we would be inclined to listen to.
Yeah, that was obviously intentional. His outfit is very crisp and square . . . and then those manky yellow socks. Hilariously undercutting the rest of his appearance.
This interview started off so charming and took a hard turn into such an important conversation about anxiety and self-perception. I’ve never seen anything like it but damn if it wasn’t the most amazing thing I’ve stumbled upon. Actually took nuggets away to remember for myself
I think the persona we put on is also a part of who we are. You know that quote “you are who you pretend to be, so be careful who you pretend to be”. It’s kinda like that. There’s your real feelings and self, but how you choose to express those feelings and deal with them is what makes up your persona, and who you are.
sethescope Agreed! Your mental health professional, with the given info, definitely needs to ask that question or something as deeply probing, or the service may not be the best.
@@sethescope maybe he's not in the stage where his psychologist think is ok to ask questions like that, therapy's not supposed to be just worked withing your comfort zone but you also need to follow the pace of the patient whether the professional thinks he's ready to handle it or not, therapy is a process and maybe he isnt in that stage yet :)
@@sethescope That's debatable. Usually they try to get you to make the realization yourself, not actually tell you what your issues are. It's not ethical to tell your patients what their issue is, because only the patient knows. It's about helping the patient discover it themselves. A psychologist asking the same question Colbert did would be asking a leading question, which is not good in psychology. Leading questions like that can cause patients to believe they have problems that they never had, and then make those problems real by believing in them. It's like if a doctor gave you a pill and said you might feel nauseous and dizzy, even if it was just a sugar pill, you're still more likely to feel those side effects just because the doctor led you to believe that you might. Therapists have to be careful about this. Coming from someone who has seen many different therapists, they each had their own different ideas of what was wrong with me, so them just telling me what they think the problem is isn't helpful. They have to help me figure it out myself.
I’d rather watch two people talk about stuff like this than anecdotes about a party or a yacht or whatever. I love even more that these two men are getting real about their mental health at all but especially in front of an audience. We have to keep having these conversations! ❤️
I am finding lately that a lot of my favorite comedians reveal themselves to be incredibly self aware and intentional about their art when they speak candidly. For some reason it always kinda catches me off guard when a clown gets deeply philosophical, but it really shouldn't. Intelligence is key to being a great humorist.
I have often found some of these "trying to get deep but still be funny" moments during Stephen's interviews to be awkward and uncomfortable without comedic or philosophical payoff. But this has got to be a real genuine moment and I really appreciated a lot of the insights these two men provided. Mulaney's comment about lack of control and finding yourself as an adult being metaphorically put in a car for karate class particularly resonates for me as a special needs parent. Thank you both.
@@marshwetland3808 I think they're trying to say society has made men feel like they can't express or talk about literally anything emotional or they instantly become 'weak' and 'unattractive'. And that this interview is proving that societal lie wrong.
Ponce Francia It absolutely does. When you take into account that a lot of people view men being emotional or even vulnerable as them being ‘soft,’ ‘weak,’ or ‘sensitive.’ Women are not the only people who have the ability to be vulnerable sometimes, so it is certainly a matter of masculinity.
"if there’s a hell- if there’s an after life, if there’s a hell, i think it’s an encyclopedia, and you can just look up what everyone in your life thought about you, and if there’s a heaven, it’s a wikipedia, and you can just change that." he cracked the code.
this has 2am at a sleepover energy
Annie Johnson Dang you right
This is so on point
ugh tell me about it,. and you and the homies still cant fall asleep lol till like 5 am.
Comedy bang bang?
Completely accurate. I only recently had this kind of conversation at 2 am - except we were both high on molly. :D
"You're supposed to act fake around adults"
"You're 36 years old."
SAME
Josh Hana ikr😬🤦🏻♀️
@Josh Hana "You're 48 years old." SAME
Hit me straight in the soul, haha
Hell, I'm 44 and I still don't think my parents truly know me. That really struck a chord.
Same. 40 years old.
John: Haha, funny joke.
Stephen: *Scribbling on a legal pad.* So tell me about your relationship with your mother.
homestuck
@@laycebug3260 Shhh. It'll be our secret.
Vriska??
@@casey7817 :::;)
“It all started when she accused me of killing Lady Diana, which of course I did but...”
Wow they really just invited an audience to John Mulaney's therapy appointment.
i’m not to the part where they talk about anxiety :D but i’m gathering this is quite wholesome and casual and i agree.
@@haechanverse Mulaney has been going through it for a minute. Now I see why he gets high.
Well he's got his psych ward socks on
@@therealunicornselene god damn when the bee tie clip and pysch wards come out he speaks facts
These kinds of conversations need to happen on TV more often. Even super talented and hard working people have insecurities.
I feel like this interview being two comedians talking about anxiety and having a mini therapy session sets the tone for the rest of 2020.
Absolutely. This is the future.
@@RomanZolanski123 It's also the present, for many of us here in the USA. Lots and lots of anxiety to be had; boatloads of it. It's like a never-ending buffet of anxiety; til you choke on it and merely WISH you were dead.
Wow, that went to a really dark place. :)
M.T. Cicero haha most definitely. But I more so meant the openness and vulnerability was the future! :) a somewhat nicer place haha
So true! I love it...as I just woke up at 3:30am with my usual mid-sleep anxiety...and this came into my feed. I swear RUclips AI literally reads my mind. Enjoyed their exchange thoroughly.
cringe
i feel like john's suit with the bright yellow socks is the most accurate representation of john and his personality you will ever see.
Damn, this whole video and comments really Be enlightening, he probably knows that too
With a bee brooch on his tie.
@@kingofgrim4761 “really be”?
Ebonics lives….
This aged bad.
@@PrincessRamsha999 Nope, that's a well-known Gucci logo. He's wearing their bee embroidered silk tie in black. You can get one brand new for a mere $220. 😉
It is 2020 and I just watched two men have an honest discussion about anxiety and wanting to be liked and not feeling good enough as themselves and neither of them made a joke about those feelings. Neither of them pretended that they didn't have feelings. Neither of them pretended that they didn't have that feeling and need. They talked about the process of learning to separate how people feel about you and how you see yourself.
You know, the world is a messed up place right now, but this just happened and I'm thinking that we might eventually be okay. Wholesome masculinity is becoming more mainstream and men are having the courage to talk about their feelings in public with other men and that is fucking incredible. I'm so fucking proud of these guys and I love them so much.
"Wholesome Masculinity" has a much nicer ring to it than "Toxic Masculinity." It certainly doesn't make me feel ashamed to be born a man.
@@canadiantemple toxic masculinity is not about one's identity as a man. doing some research about what toxic masculinity actually is might help. a lot of really smart people have really smart things to say about men's experiences and why so many men participate in and perpetuate toxic masculinity.
Also, learn to dance
I agree 100%. The honesty literally brought tears to my eyes.
Stephen and John: **casual banter**
Stephen: "Do you think your anxiety is what makes you feel the need to not let anyone see the real you?"
John: "and I- oop"
sksksksk
Yay! Jasmine Masters reference!
Speaking of anxieties...
My top 3 assumptions when the doorbell rings:
1. Murderer
2. Police telling me everyone is dead
3. That book I ordered about positive thinking
@@lisagreen1712 where’s the third from that list?
Top tier comment hahah!
I love John Mulaney’s work, but in retrospect knowing he and his wife got divorced the “You’ll never really know what I think of you, and I’ll never really know what you think of me” moment hits haaaard
they are still together, what are you taking about?
@@youisstupid2586 They separated in may, he filed for divorce in july and announced he knocked up olivia munn in september
@@mmanzanox oou....
That was kinda sus ngl
Yeah, i was like, "that didn't age well XD".
"You have a lot of anxiety?"
"Yeah."
"And that's why you don't want anyone to ever truly know you."
"... Ooh."
I laughed so hard but I felt so bad lmaoOo HIS FACE
@@_aiko020 I think he really appreciated that question, because it's likely that it's a thought he hasn't had before. I think John maybe learned something new.
i saw a clip of this on ig with the caption "therapy be like" and it was gold
@@Arinomi68 hes definitely had the thought before he just wasn't expecting it in the situation
He really learned something that day
I wasn't expecting John to answer that question about his anxiety so honestly. What a brave guy.
Had i not read the title before clicking, i'd just expect him to swerve it with a joke
He's a proud Asian woman
@@fairy5668 I CANNOT!!!!😭😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣
Bill Hader and him have been forthcoming about their own issues with mental health, and using medication to help. They don't put a lot of it into their comedy, but you can find plenty of interviews where they talk about it.
kimchichipo bless them both honestly
I like the fact that they don't really force laughter and instead talk sincerely and allow awkward pauses. It shows the real respect that they have for each other
Exactly! I can also take them more seriously without the host laughing at every sentence
Colbert's question in the middle actually got boos if you listen, but John was like "Wait... you may be on to something...."
It's too bad they add in a laugh track, literal forced laughter
John Mulaney on Fallon: Here’s this crazy story about how I went to a concert with Pete Davidson!
John Mulaney on Colbert: I will never truly reveal who I am as a person.
Fallon is like having candy for dinner while Colbert is a full-course meal at a nice restaurant. Two totally different experiences and feelings of satisfaction.
Fallon quickly lost my interest.
Brandon B. One gives you weird green soft serve shits?
Who is Steely Dan?
Exactly.
John Mulaney realised he had been paying the wrong person 800 bucks an hour
Honestly lmfaooo
Big mood.
John Mulaney seems to understand Gen Z and a lot of us relate to him. A lot of people his age and older and even a bit younger don't. He's someone that we would be inclined to listen to.
Could you expand on this? I'm really curious what it is about John that Gen Z relates to.
@@setrataeso for me, he just isn’t as dismissive as many older people tend to be. He acknowledges us and a lot of the jokes he makes has a point that seems very relatable to our generation.
For example, he has jokes about children (13 year olds, and a lot of the Sack Lunch Bunch), but he makes jokes without the implied insults that are found in many other statements made by adults.
This is just my take. All in all, it’s probably because he’s a tall child from the 50s.
Edit: “Typical” Gen Z things are dark humour, mental health, self-deprecating jokes, annoyance at adults (every generation has it but it felt necessary), etc.
🙃
Don't kid yourself Moonchild. I'm 78 and I relate to John Mulaney better than any comedian I can ever remember - British or American. He makes me laugh out loud all the time. He also makes me pause to THINK. Amazing young man.
Wow they
I think John Mulaney is wonderful and incredibly insightful and emotionally open, which makes him so relatable. There's such a warmth and niceness to what he does, he never feels mean-spirited unless he's making poking fun at himself. But I think you might also remember that, like, John Mulaney isn't old lol. Older than 16, sure, but people in their 30s can remember being teens and early 20 somethings - it doesn't feel so far removed. And honestly, a lot of those anxieties might persist into adulthood; it's kind of all part of a similar stew (although I am sure the specific worries might be a little different, informed by current times and tech, etc.) But as long as you're empathic and not cynical, I think that makes anyone relatable. And John is all those things. He's definitely not dismissive. And I also think he's such a kid still, that the childlike whatever comes through. That's why I think the sack lunch bunch special was perfect for him. And it's also why so many people older and younger probably feel a similar connection to him. He might just be one of the best human beings :)
They're still disguising it under comedy but this is probably the most real conversation there's ever been on a late night talk show.
This interview should win an award. This is exactly what interviewing should be.
They are overthinking stuff... As Simpsons prove, grown men say Doh all the time
It’s proof of their comedic genius
I didn’t get paid...lmao
check Bishop TuTu with Craig Ferguson
It's very obvious that Colbert sees a LOT of himself in Mulaney. He sees him as a younger version of himself.
It's interesting that John went into having different personas, since Colbert really became a star by playing a character and has talked about being afraid to come to CBS and have to just be himself and possibly be rejected.
he see's the genius, especially with that wikipedia, heaven/hell joke. same with his other interviews with mulaney, there's always a few moments you notice stevens mind turning, deciphering where the joke will go but being presently surprised at the punch line/qiup.
They’re both from the New England area I think. They both grew up catholic. They both did sketch comedy. They are both writers. They have a lot in common.
JazGalaxy Colbert is from South Carolina and Mulaney is from Chicago, but being raised catholic is definitely something that resonates with both of them. Same with Conan and Colbert
JazGalaxy John is from Chicago!
It's true. John is a very anxious person. I met him on an airplane once and he was very nervous.
This needs so much more attention than it's getting.
Ah yeah he could just, like, get a Xanax prescription as long as he tells a doctor that sometimes he gets nervous on airplanes. I wonder if he's ever tried it.
@@lorencappelson6475 LMAO. in all seriousness hope he is ok after hearing he checked into rehab
@@lorencappelson6475 he actually has a comedy bit about trying to get a Xanax prescription, it didn't go over well
@@beckyheise2152 lol yes I know, that what I was referring to.
"Just water for me, and tremendous anxiety."
"Is that why you never let everyone get to know the real you?"
"Oh. Can I have a second?"
Stephen and John are the ideal friends who press them to tell the truth and check up on them.
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I so wish the band started playing the jeopardy theme song at that moment.
Nah it was a fragile private moment - the band was right to let the 2 men alone
I can relate. I also have a lot of anxiety, but my depression is what keeps me superficial. If I don't dwell on the deep, I avoid most of the sad.
It seems like John would actual reveal himself to Stephen though because Stephen has actually asked about it and encouraged him to talk about it
Alternate title: "Stephen Colbert Psychoanalyzes John Mulaney for Thirteen Minutes and Two Seconds"
kamcalste "no! that's the thing I'm sensitive about!!"
uhhhitsmonique darn those feminine hips
Grace Wilkins the feminine hips of his personality
John Mulaney and Stephen Colbert always have the most genuine conversations and I will never tire of them discussing real, personal matters.
This interview should win an award. This is exactly what interviewing should be.
Omg exactlyyy
I was thinking, I like how Colbert very deliberately guides the conversation into opportunities to play to Mulaney's comedic strengths.
One more like to 500
Idk, I feel like it was at least somewhat planned out. These interviews usually are
@@adamantium7 Why should that make a difference?
“black cup of coffee, babydoll.”
one black coffee
that is like. Such a sentence that would be said to john mulaney
McDonald’s McDonald’s McDonald’s McDonald’s McDonald’s McDonald’s McDonald’s McDonald’s McDonald’s
**car full of children cheering**
Does bsby doll have john too? That guy must manage most of show business.
I hope John knows we love him and we're rooting for him. Being funny is a part of who he is but even when he's not providing laughter for other people, he deserves love and support. We're glad you had the courage to change the things you can. Get well soon JM! Also those post-rehab jokes are going to be hilarious.
I was looking for a comment like this. I'm so proud of him for getting the help he needs, this is one of my all-time favorite, real, raw, and we can actually glimpse who he is even if it's just a little bit.
@@papl20 Yes one of my favorite JM interviews. I'm also a huge Colbert fan. Not only is he brilliant and hilarious but he is also open and sincere. He's able to get genuine responses from his guests .
His post intervention and rehab appearance with Seth Meyers is just as vulnerable and raw as his interview here with SC. If you haven't seen it I highly recommend watching it. Seth's team, like Stephen's team, kept the RUclips post to one continuous segment instead of breaking it up. Doing so really keeps the integrity of the conversation the hosts have with John.
Yes, yes they are. Poignantly so.
This felt like a rare TV moment.
Kudos to John for being so receptive to a question which could have so easily crossed a line for others
Crossed a line? Maybe for repressed people who can't have a real conversation.
Toasted Joe exactly. Mulaney could have reacted like one of those “repressed people who can’t have a real conversation” but he didn’t and that was a great, rare moment we’re all lucky to have seen.
To be fair it's on TV and a deeply personal question, if he didn't chose to answer it I wouldn't call it repressed.
Toasted Joe conversations aren’t real on tv. They can’t ever be forgotten
@@toastedjoe1013 But it's light entertainment, not what you would usually expect in this context...
This turned into a real serious conversation.
rod axel - ikr - it kinda blew me away how candidly they spoke about anxiety.
No kidding, I was expecting a jokey interview and instead got an in-depth therapy session :o
And that's okay
Serious Jibber Jabber
It was an excellent and intelligent conversation. Refreshing on TV.
John's "...ooh" at 6:32 is just how I feel all the time
Did you hear the utter silence from the audience when they became completely candid and insightful? It's like no-one wanted to spoil the moment. Beautiful example.of kind humanity. :)
I kind of assumed that the audience were just as terrified as me that someone might be about to express a genuine emotion. I was practically behind the couch at one point, sweet Lord.
I need a lie down, goodness me...
@@danielr3522 it's rare nowadays, too scripted.
Bring back TV anarchy!!!
I'm thinking Recovery hehe (90s music show in Australia- it was awesome lol).
TV anarchy, sounds like a great idea :D Though unfortunately I think there's too much at stake these days, what with social media being the way it is at the moment.
@@danielr3522 lol agreed. Social media didn't exist, he'll we had to remember to record the show on the VCR. Some fancy-arsed families could program it to automatically start recording at the selected time.
Back at a time when we still had our cassette players and tried to record our fave song on the radio while abusing the dj for talking over it. So rude.
Eeh, they were simpler times back then, weren't they? I kinda miss the days when if you wanted to abuse radio DJs for ruining the end of your favourite song, you had to do so by post rather than by tweeting them.
(I don't miss having to program the VCR though, that really was a pain in the butt.)
I think we’re seeing the beginnings of a new Netflix series. “John and Stephen: seriously funny.” With comedy sketches sprinkled with moments of philosophical exploration
I hope Netflix is reading ur post. Great suggestion!
More like psychological but yeah
daniel sloss dark and jigsaw in live shows
Basically what Bo Burnham did in his Make Happy special
YES!!! All of the yes-ing to this!!!
I've watched this particular interview over 50 times since it was released,,,, and y'know, their honest discussion of anxiety combined with their natural sense of humor really seems to help me find something to smile about in 2020.
SAME
I've watched it countless times as well. Its difficult now to think he was on drugs during this time, because its so natural and positive.
"The worst dancer at a wedding is the one who's not dancing." - John Mulaney, 2020
He’s never seen me dance.
Stephen said that.
C
"The best guitar player at the party is the one not playing". John Mayer probably.
@@willkoestner4159 I can totally see John being the guy who goes to parties just to take out the host's guitar and play acoustic one guitar blues jams
the way he paused and was like “oooh” LFJDKSJSN
Literally me
alternate title: John Mulaney and Stephen Colbert Accidentally Have A Shared Existential Crisis On Stage
It's weird to hear him mention siblings. Based on his stand-up and the interactions with his parents he talks about, I always pictured him as an only child. Huh.
With how much he talks about being Catholic, you thought he had no siblings?!
One of his brothers passed. I wonder what the story is.
Same. Valid point about the Catholicism in the replies though. One would think that would contradict my assumption that he’s an only child but I guess I managed to skip over that
Me too! Especially learning that he's the youngest
@Malachite Eyes Woah comedic talent runs in the family. And thanks aha nobody's commented on my name before
Why does John Mulaney look like he should be a student in the Dead Poet's Society...
He's like the comedic, more confident version of todd anderson. Same level of anxiety, less doubt in himself
that’s just the vibe he gives off
@@haechanverse I thought more Robert Sean Leonard.
i think him and Charlie would be great friends and would 100% do wack shit together lmao
𝙸 𝚍𝚘𝚗𝚝 𝚔𝚗𝚘𝚠 👁👄👁
“I don’t like that... but it’s not my problem” a quote that can be used for so many things ❤️
"If there's a hell, I think it's an encyclopaedia, and you can just look up what everyone in your life thought about you. And if there's a heaven, it's a Wikipedia, and you can just change that." - John Mulaney, 2020.
Hell would be always wanting to read that encyclopaedia, heaven would be not caring about it at all.
Maryam there was an account of life after death of a real dick...he felt every stinging comment he ever made.
"'If there's a hell, I think it's an encyclopaedia, and you can just look up what everyone in your life thought about you. And if there's a heaven, it's a Wikipedia, and you can just change that.' - John Mulaney, 2020." - Maryam
''''if there's a hell, I think it's an encyclopedia, and you can just look up what everyone in your life thought about you. And if there's a heaven, it's a Wikipedia, and you can just change that.' - John Mulaney, 2020.' - Maryam. " - Longpig
“‘If there’s a hell, I think it’s an encyclopedia, and you can just look up what everyone in your life thought about you. And if there’s a heaven, it’s a Wikipedia, and you can just change that.’ - John Mulaney, 2020.’ - Maryam.’ - Longpig” - Gianmarco Fanti, 2020.
"If someone doesn't like me, I don't like that, but it's not my problem".
That is a great philosophy. Thank you, Stephen. That helps 😋
Someone told me once that someone's opinion of me is none of my business. Perfect advice.
Sometime you make mistakes and it harms people.. Still not your problem?
Also, don't be an asshole. It's pretty self explanatory.
That's what Trixie Mattell says, "What other people think of me is none of my business"
@@redwan2040 I think you are thinking of Direct action versus opinion. If you've done something to hurt someone that is your fault and your responsibility. Someone's opinion about you is something that is hard to control once someone has made up their mind about you so it's best not to worry about. Hope I explained that right :)
Wow, Mulaney went deep there, on stage in front of cameras. Way more introspective in that single moment than some people I know ever go. Good for him. And Stephen as well. What a great segment.
Not gonna lie i had a sad feeling when he said "Would they like me as me and not me just 'poking my head out of the blanket'". I hope he knows he's way more than a comedian for a lot of people.
🥺😢
So many people genuinely care about him and want him to be happy ☹️
Wow they really just invited an audience to John Mulaney's therapy appointment.
i am not understanding what “poke your head out of a blanket” means metaphorically. does it mean if he isn’t putting on a show or character will people like him?
@@angelfranklynn2702 Essentially yeah! It’s a reference to what he said right before about how he’d do that as a kid to entertain his family.
Colbert is a pure class act. He never forces anything or tries to be above his guests. Incredible interviewing skills without all the pressure that often comes with shows of this nature. And of course Mulaney is a gentleman and a scholar, which helps too.
I also think that the way Colbert led to the commercial break at the end sounded like it was an invite to regroup after the conversation
@@extremelylongwords That also has to do with the fact that Stephen knows this part of the interview went super long. He says "I'd *like* to be back with more John Mulaney," because he wants to make sure after the editing that there's enough time to talk about the actual project John worked on. But he recognizes how important that interview was.
this hurts more than ever after the divorce
5:18 really hurt
They divorced?
@@ezgikaya9634 they're getting one
Wth I literally just read the article. This is devastating
He initiated the divorce. As someone who's always searching for happiness, I hope he finds it as well.
Stephen: “Follow up question”
John: *laughs uncomfortably*
I felt that too! It was kind of a "please stop" laugh.
Mulaney probably spent millions on therapy and this is the first time that connection was made.
@@juandelacruz4679 "i'm on the verge of a mental breakdown" laugh
I didn’t get that sense at all. It seemed to me that John really found it funny
This is like watching a fencing battle but with genuine wit and emotional vulnerability.
Or something.
A fencing battle where they compete by throwing advice.
It’s ok on the fencing team we’re all emotionally vulnerable
Dan Chase nice
It's like fencing, but instead they're both just trying to give each other a meaningful hug.
it's like fencing but instead of trying to stab each other we're showering the other person with love and affection
This interview hits different after hearing he went to rehab :/ I have someone who suffers from cocaine addiction and hearing him talk about he doesn’t like what he sees in the mirror and his different version of himself hits hard because that’s exactly what cocaine helps you to do. It makes you feel like your on top of the world and without that substance who really are you? Sorry got supper long but I hope he feels better soon ❤️
7:58 I have never heard John Mulaney laugh! He always makes others laugh but that was strangely amazing hearing him laugh out loud.
you should see him with Bill hader! just an hour and a half of him laughing, it's amazing
I was thinking the same thing lol I've never heard him laugh so hard
I know, right?
6:30 - You can see that John is a genuine person. He takes his time to deeply think (and search his own emotional motivations) then provides an honest and profound response. One of the theories about laughter is that its function is not to respond to things that make you laugh. Laughter is a way to discharge discomfort/tension, especially within the one who is laughing. When Stephen asked the follow up, John's laughter was a way to release some of the tension in the moment in order to prepare and go even deeper into his own psyche/experiences. This is what makes John Mulaney (and Stephen Colbert) great. It's their willingness to dive into the experience which connects to the question/moment through vulnerability and be able to bring back up and share the gold.
Or something like that. :)
right? it made me unbelievably happy and refreshed
He suddenly looks very tired when Colbert asks him that thing about anxiety.
That tall child looks tired. Get some sleep, tall child!
@@Nonameforyoudangit stop burning the candle at both ends
His mask slipped for a moment.
he probably went from his stage persona to his real persona
@@Nonameforyoudangit you're the king of redundancy king
“and that’s why you don’t want anyone to truly know you”
but we don’t have time to unpack all THAT
That was an incredibly rare moment for television and media in general... That kind of raw, human connection is something that every producer or actor/actress is trying to capture, and yet, while it may sometimes be hard to tell when something is acted, you can *always* tell when someone is indeed being candid. That was beautiful and I feel seeing this has enriched my understanding of this show, comedy, and in many ways, the world.
If you haven't yet, I really suggest watching Stephen's being interviewed by Anderson Cooper. It's fascinating and so insightful. Really lovely to watch.
Agreed
you should listen to Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard, it's full of incredibly raw and honest insights like these.
See Chao Stephen has to be my favorite late night host. He always feels genuine in his interviews. This one felt so good to watch.
Craig Ferguson used to do this kind of thing all the time. He’d ask his guest if they were in therapy, and then he had a fake pipe and he would pretend to smoke it while asking very deep, personal, and existential questions. He would then prod the most revealing answer he could out of his guest, and once the atmosphere became heavy, he would gloss over the heaviness with a nonsensical resolution. It was an interesting way of harnessing sensitive information without making the guest feel vulnerable.
This guy has a deep well of sadness inside him. Takes tremendous courage to be that emotionally raw and honest, especially in front of other people.
I wish him hope and healing as he wrestles with his demons.
He's doing fine...he's just being honest. We all have that deep well of sadness that we have to combat to varying degrees.
That's every single person who's honest with themselves. It's part of the human condition. We face disappointments, lose people, hurt people, people hurt us, we grow old, and eventually people lose us. Kudos to John for not sanitizing that: I think at least few less people felt alone tonight.
His recovery from alcoholism and ability to inspire others to lead a healthy, positive, inspiring life is what makes John a truly amazing human being. Everybody has demons, but some haunt you forever, and addiction is a shadow that never leaves you.
@@soccrstar4
Wow, I didn't know he was an alcoholic. I was oddly transfixed by this interview last night and I think it has to do with more than just his personality.
It's unclear whether you mean Mulaney or Colbert, and I think that's very appropriate.
4:58 This part hits differently after learning the sad news of his marriage.
What??
Not sad, considering how happy he is now
It's only sad if he was sad. Anyone else sad about it not directly involved in his life, that would be really fucking weird!
Some comedians use humour to divert away from their pain.
These gentlemen use humour to lean into the pain.
Which is amazing.
I kinda do on a daily basis... I’m not a comedian. Just in life.
@vox qui vive I remember hearing Hasan Minhaj say once that Jon Stewart had told him that, when looking for new material to write comedy, he should "find where your discomfort is, and go there."
That stuck with me.
Try having this kind of interaction on any other night shows. Colbert is simply on another level.
terradisiena if you enjoy these sort of talks then check out conan o'brien's podcasts!
I can't even fathom how this would go over on Fallon's show.
terradisiena Honestly Seth Meyers and Trevor Noah both have really nice low key segments that explore deep subjects. It depends completely on the guest.
@@princessaria Absolutely LOVE Trevor Noah
There's a place for both.
Vulnerability, sincerity and trust. This interview is beyond endearing.
Comment section: *deep comments, adults sharing feelings*
Me, an intellectual: “I like johns tie pin thing and watch.”
Gucci tie. Its needled in
And the socks!
Ryan Stevens I was wondering if it was Gucci, damn Mulaney got the drip
And the watch is Jaeger.
@@amityislandchum I love his socks too! Such a brilliant pop of colour
i love how Colbert isn't afraid to lean into serious and emotional topics.
you would love the podcast he did with conan
I believe his first ever late night interview was with Biden and it holds up as arguably the most emotional interview he's done
“And I think we’ll be together for a long time” ouch 😞
pain 💔
Now THAT is how you interview someone, ladies and gentlemen.
It's like an older Stephen talking to a younger version of himself
I think john's brother also has passed away. They have a lot of similarities
Colbert went from just casually interviewing to conducting a therapy session, then Mulaney played his uno reverse card
What's interesting is that during a conversation about being themselves vs needing to make people laugh, they both drop their comedic personas and present their real selves. Refreshing to see a moment of honesty like this.
Stephen really called John Mulaney “Baby Doll”
And I was so happy about it😂😂
I know right. 🤣 caught me off guard.
facts are facts
" do you have anxiety?"
*john: :o is this therapy*
I love how in depth they went. Sometimes you forget that celebrities are real people and no amount of fame and money can fix mental health so the fact they talked about it in a light manor is nice to watch
Not all celebs are capable of this though, that's what makes it so special
I think Stephen can sort of tell he's sitting across from the man he will one day hand this show off to...
I think mulaney is too eccentric to take over a late night show. He will probably create a new one to fit to his whims
@@nunyabusiness8587 the same could be said for a younger Colbert
@@seventeenhamilton5362 yeah exactly. Colbert was a crazy choice to succeed Letterman. But it works. One day Mulaney will work too as the creative choice.
OH I HOPE
Seventeen Hamilton that's a great point, I had this nice nostalgic moment when I read that 😁
When he said "I think we'll be together for a long time" about his wife... my heart broke
Yeah, that didn’t age well
One of the most insightful and therapeutic conversations out there.
Effa Yahyaoui - I wish I’d heard this conversation 30 years ago - I’d feel a lot more normal.
I agree. The realness in this conversation is palpable, and I am impressed that they had the courage to let it happen.
@@Hiforest It's never too late to feel normal (whatever "normal" is) 😉
@@emilyflury I always enjoy when Stephen gets real and goes on these rabbit holes journeys with his guests.. It's always fun and healing to watch
Stephen is a mesmerizing combination of intelligence, humor, self-awareness, and relatable authenticity.
A man of true integrity
Yes, this
Perfect replacement for Dave.
Watching this after hearing that John checked into rehab. I hope he gets the help he needs.
Wait what?
@@Ash-pv6zh He checked into rehab for alcohol/cocaine abuse. He abused substances in his teens/early twenties and went sober at 23. Checking into rehab is a good step showing that he is serious about recovery. We love you John! ❤️
@@mackenzie7517 thanks
@@Ash-pv6zh as soon as he left rehab he divorced his wife and had a baby with Olivia Munn. 😒
“The worst dancer at a wedding is the one not dancing”
I would rather people assume I'm a terrible dancer than for them to see it. I cannot be convinced otherwise. The rest of the video I thoroughly loved, however.
@@LycanLink that's why you take ballroom dancing so you can practice and learn.
@@LycanLink Don't people love terrible dancers though? I don't know but for me, nothing is better than seeing someone sober dancing really badly at a party and enjoying themselves than to see that person in the corner who thinks they'll seem cooler if they don't dance and end up wasting an opportunity to dance like a weirdo
@@fairy5668
My confidence is low enough for me to assume nobody would ever see me as "cool," so rather than embarrass myself, I'd prefer to be the guy that didn't stick out and show off how lame he was.
@@LycanLink If you already know you're not cool then get out there and go crazy go stupid ahhh. You will never regret dancing at a party - Signed, someone who used to pretend I was too tired to dance because I was too scared to look embarrassing in front of other people
Speaking of anxieties...
My top 3 assumptions when the doorbell rings:
1. Murderer
2. Police telling me everyone is dead
3. That book I ordered about positive thinking
In the immortal words of Maurice Moss: “an unopened door is a happy door.”
And that's why I don't answer my door! 😂
@@ella17734 And that’s why I haven’t learned to dance.
Now THAT is how you interview someone, ladies and gentlemen.
Door-answering-fear story:
I’m a Londoner. My housemate (room mate) is a fellow Londoner and she has Sri Lankan parents. Shortly after we moved into our flat, the doorbell rang unexpectedly- she freaked the fuck out; jumped, quick breathing, really scared.
Later, I asked her why she’d been so scared - after all it was just an Amazon guy. She was like, “well this is kind of silly”, and then told me about how when she was 8 y/o, she accidentally opened the door to the Tamil Tigers 😬.
There are lots of Sri Lankan immigrants in London, and also some members of the Tamil Tigers. They go round intimidating Tamil people and collecting money for the organisation - or at least they used to, when the conflict was still ongoing. Anyway, a group of TT thugs came to her house when she was 8, and she innocently opened the door, thinking they were her Dad’s friends. Her Mum saved the situation by pretending to be Iranian and making them go away. 😳
So yeah, when the story was finished I said, “mate it’s not ‘silly’ that you’re scared of opening the door at all - in this context it’s entirely fucking reasonable!”
I swear to god, I’ve been obsessed with this man’s personality for some time now and seen him a lot of interviews and specials and shit. When he answered that question is the most serious and focused I have ever seen him, it was a shock really. I hope he’s doing good.
Holy crap that was brilliant. Guess Catholic boys never forget how to do the confessional...
My confessions were all lies - since I had too much shame about the real sins.
Oh dear! Priests have heard it all - you can't shock them. (Might be a good time to go now...)
@@caro1ns It's not the priests who are shocked by the truth of sin; it's the sinners. No one can know the extraordinary love of God until they first know themselves for all that they are: dastardly and depraved, yet somehow worth the death of God.
I think moments like these are the reason why Colbert and this show are so successful. True human connection and the ability to have a back and forth with the guest, not talk over them or one-up them, but to lift each other up or to courteously challenge each others' thinking...I could listen to this for hours! I just love watching Colbert on other interviews--imagine if Stephen had a podcast?!
Check out Stephen’s episodes in Conan’s and Marc Maron’s podcasts! It helps he’s got a voice like butter too 😎
Colbert meeting the moment like that....was everything. Expressing where he was as a comedian while simultaneously making Mulaney feel better about where he was at/shifting his perspective of the audience...well you can see how much they respect and enjoy each other.
“What a life, what a sad life to want to entertain so much that I’ll collapse for you if you cheer loud enough” -John Mulaney
This was a very profound conversation, as someone who is a validation seeker it was good to hear someone talk about converting that need into a healthy mentality.
Johns laugh at 7:57 is one of the few times I've seen John genuinely laugh.
“Just water and tremendous anxiety”, if that doesn’t perfectly encapsulate the millenial experience idk what does 😆😆😆
Meanwhile, nihilism is all the rage for zoomers like me. LMAO
I mean, we've got that too, but anxiety trumps just about anything and anyone.
Omg you’re right
Well that and Cocaine..
@@codyleslie478 as a millennial, I wish.
Am I the only one who couldn’t stop looking at his yellow socks
IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR THIS COMMENT
John Mulaney seems to understand Gen Z and a lot of us relate to him. A lot of people his age and older and even a bit younger don't. He's someone that we would be inclined to listen to.
They should match his pants!
well now i cant holy shit
Yeah, that was obviously intentional. His outfit is very crisp and square . . . and then those manky yellow socks. Hilariously undercutting the rest of his appearance.
This interview started off so charming and took a hard turn into such an important conversation about anxiety and self-perception. I’ve never seen anything like it but damn if it wasn’t the most amazing thing I’ve stumbled upon. Actually took nuggets away to remember for myself
People with anxiety have the most opportunities to be courageous.
Every day.
i mean every day is a shitstorm of emotions
Fitting username
As a person who struggles with anxiety, thank you for this.
Even if that were true, that doesnt make anxiety any less hellish.
the way john completely unraveled when he was asked about his anxiety was wild
That’s not unraveling, it’s called introspection! That is a man aware of himself!
@@DropSet_Nicky i was talking more about the reaction his introspection gave him, friend
wait i saw you on another comment section lmaooo i think it was hamilton idk
@@ss-hc7tb (☞ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)☞ hello. i think it might be bc im v acquainted with that side of the tracks
It takes plenty of strength to be honest and vulnerable and inwardly questioning. Love this kind of male role modeling.
Holy hell what a conversation. This segment will go down in history as one of the finest moments of Colbert's show
I think the persona we put on is also a part of who we are. You know that quote “you are who you pretend to be, so be careful who you pretend to be”. It’s kinda like that. There’s your real feelings and self, but how you choose to express those feelings and deal with them is what makes up your persona, and who you are.
"And that's why you don't want anyone to actually, really know you?"
Damn, not even my psychologist ask me something like that
You might want to get a new psychologist. This is the kind of thing they're supposed to ask and explore with you. 💖
@@sethescope _"they're supposed"_
sethescope Agreed! Your mental health professional, with the given info, definitely needs to ask that question or something as deeply probing, or the service may not be the best.
@@sethescope maybe he's not in the stage where his psychologist think is ok to ask questions like that, therapy's not supposed to be just worked withing your comfort zone but you also need to follow the pace of the patient whether the professional thinks he's ready to handle it or not, therapy is a process and maybe he isnt in that stage yet :)
@@sethescope That's debatable. Usually they try to get you to make the realization yourself, not actually tell you what your issues are. It's not ethical to tell your patients what their issue is, because only the patient knows. It's about helping the patient discover it themselves.
A psychologist asking the same question Colbert did would be asking a leading question, which is not good in psychology. Leading questions like that can cause patients to believe they have problems that they never had, and then make those problems real by believing in them. It's like if a doctor gave you a pill and said you might feel nauseous and dizzy, even if it was just a sugar pill, you're still more likely to feel those side effects just because the doctor led you to believe that you might. Therapists have to be careful about this. Coming from someone who has seen many different therapists, they each had their own different ideas of what was wrong with me, so them just telling me what they think the problem is isn't helpful. They have to help me figure it out myself.
This is hands down one of the best interviews this show has ever done. God bless these hilarious and insightful men.
I teach high school, and I would 100% have him at my school to speak at graduation. This is witty and wise and full of words I want them all to hear.
I’d rather watch two people talk about stuff like this than anecdotes about a party or a yacht or whatever. I love even more that these two men are getting real about their mental health at all but especially in front of an audience. We have to keep having these conversations! ❤️
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard is great for conversations like this.
came for comedy, stayed for a therapy session with comedians
This interview was on an entirely different level than the content I've come used to seeing in today's media. This was beautiful and enlightening.
This might be the most honest, profound moment in late night history.
I am finding lately that a lot of my favorite comedians reveal themselves to be incredibly self aware and intentional about their art when they speak candidly. For some reason it always kinda catches me off guard when a clown gets deeply philosophical, but it really shouldn't. Intelligence is key to being a great humorist.
Imagine Bo Burnham joining in
@@mildattempt Bo's great too. Also very bright guy.
why is this the funniest interview i’ve ever seen whilst also being the chillest
I have often found some of these "trying to get deep but still be funny" moments during Stephen's interviews to be awkward and uncomfortable without comedic or philosophical payoff. But this has got to be a real genuine moment and I really appreciated a lot of the insights these two men provided. Mulaney's comment about lack of control and finding yourself as an adult being metaphorically put in a car for karate class particularly resonates for me as a special needs parent. Thank you both.
and that’s on slaying toxic masculinity
Damn right
I'm not clear on how that phrase pops up here, but, yeah, Mulaney is not a typical creepy guy. Unlike many comedians.
@@marshwetland3808 I think they're trying to say society has made men feel like they can't express or talk about literally anything emotional or they instantly become 'weak' and 'unattractive'. And that this interview is proving that societal lie wrong.
Ponce Francia It absolutely does. When you take into account that a lot of people view men being emotional or even vulnerable as them being ‘soft,’ ‘weak,’ or ‘sensitive.’ Women are not the only people who have the ability to be vulnerable sometimes, so it is certainly a matter of masculinity.
@@geanolsbar yeah exactly
"if there’s a hell- if there’s an after life, if there’s a hell, i think it’s an encyclopedia, and you can just look up what everyone in your life thought about you, and if there’s a heaven, it’s a wikipedia, and you can just change that." he cracked the code.
7:58 John’s unfiltered laugh is beautiful!
What an expected pleasure-two comedians turning a humorous moment into something introspective and thought provoking.