Great video! Love the feedback and self evaluation on the build. I think it sets more realistic expectations for first time builders! Glad you're sticking around!
This may be an opportunity to do a comparison. How would the sound change if you added a port? Should be relatively easy to remove the back, drill a hole and install an appropriate tube. Seems like it should help the base. Maybe even consider making your own tube to show that it doesn't need to be an expensive option.
I couldn't hear the low end at all through the microphone you used. Higher freqs sounded pretty clear. I agree with woofers being isolated and taming the vibration. Anyway, I am based off of India and planning on learning from your channel to build HQ speakers for fun, family and friends.
Listening on a pair of skull candy headphones, I can just make out lack of clarity in the top end compared to your better quality speakers. The bass is audible but separating them would help keep it tighter. That said, I love these videos. Recently decided to rebuild a pair of speakers me and my father made 15 years ago. Having to go without butt joints though 😔. Great to see the entry level work, hopefully it'll inspire. Keep making videos.
So, it's designed to be a sealed enclosure, but isn't well-sealed? Interesting. I was thinking that it might have more bass if it had a port. Either way, really. But you'd have to tune the port if you made it ported, which... if the goal is a 'simple' build, the port-tuning process is a bit fiddly. (Not that it's all that difficult, but it's several more steps.)
Yo Kirby, your suggestions to improve the enclosure were pretty cool and all - but why didn't you go through with the changes and let us hear the difference?
I don't understand why there is one tweeter but two woofers and you say you want to separate the woofers into their own cabinets with a divider as if the BT speaker is stereo? How can it be stereo with only one tweeter? I assumed it was a mono build. I think there are just a little more steps that should be done at the absolute minimum. 1) Add a second tweeter and make it a proper 2ch stereo sound or leave it as is but make it mono. 2) Make it a complete first order crossover by adding a cheap iron core inductor (maybe 1.5mh at the mimimum) to the woofers. This will help a lot with the peaky midrange problem and allow more bass perception at the cost of some efficiency. 3) Put resistors on the tweeters to balance them with the woofers. Currently the tweeter is tearing my head off lol. These are simple and the most basic steps. Seems to me would cost about $30 more to add this and it would make the speaker way more listenable.
How do you run a single-channel 2-way setup off of a dual channel amp? I've been trying to plan a build with that amp but am frustrated that I need to use double the number of components to get the most out of that amp since the channels aren't bridgeable.
I don't know how Kirby wired it but what I do know is that the TPA3110 Chips that those 15watt Dayton boards use are bridgeable. I'm not sure about the other boards though. But you could wire it mono bridged as an MMT speaker so to say
I don´t know if this is due to the recording, but i think they definitely lack some bass, so why separate the inner chamber? That would mean an even bigger loss of volume and therefore bass
I dont know other subs, but those "free" plans at 100K never happened.. at least i checked for 5day in a row when you reached the 100K. Anyway, i would love to see a full build of a bluetooth speaker with crossover analysis, volume calculation, charts with spl and other measures, etc
Yeah, that should help. According to Parts Express, the F3 in a sealed box would be 142 Hz, and 81 Hz vented. It's hard to find small speakers that reach even to 80 Hz in a sealed enclosure. I was looking and the 3" HiVi B3N should be able to do it, but it's response is all over the place and I'm looking for good sound quality.
It still drives me absolutely friggin crazy that your tweeter is only wired up to one channel. Does that amp only run mono and then divide it to both channels? If not, that's going to cause like literally the worst listening experience ever for heavy stereo dependent tracks like Pink Floyd's Welcome to the Machine, The Beatles' Eleanor Rigby, and other tracks that have stereo phasing and sound staging.
SkyRumbler I don't know how Kirby wired it but what I do know is that the TPA3110 Chips that those Dayton boards use are bridgeable so you could wire it mono bridge as an MMT speaker so to say
I disagree. It is a test, but for him and his ears. That being said, it is NOT a loudspeaker measurement that can be trusted or used for reference. If you were in his position, I bet you'd do the same thing, or something very similar. He designs and builds loudspeakers on a regular basis, but he doesn't just do it for himself, he shares the whole process! So why on earth would he not film a quick clip of the working finished product, after filming the rest of the process? AND on top of that, he has Patreon supporters who fund this! If I were a Patreon supporter, or if I received funding to create content, I would follow through with giving the audience and supporters content that they enjoy. SO yes, this is a test.
You’r right, he’s sharing the result (and I would do it in the same way, certainly uglier) but for me, shearing a result is not a test. In the same way, move around speakers with a camera, it’s more a camera test than speaker test.
Great video! Love the feedback and self evaluation on the build. I think it sets more realistic expectations for first time builders! Glad you're sticking around!
could you use a hip hop/trap track for more low end in the test
hi there Kirby, do you build your devices with using knowledge or in an eclectic way? Do you make stereo units as well?
This may be an opportunity to do a comparison. How would the sound change if you added a port? Should be relatively easy to remove the back, drill a hole and install an appropriate tube. Seems like it should help the base. Maybe even consider making your own tube to show that it doesn't need to be an expensive option.
I couldn't hear the low end at all through the microphone you used. Higher freqs sounded pretty clear. I agree with woofers being isolated and taming the vibration. Anyway, I am based off of India and planning on learning from your channel to build HQ speakers for fun, family and friends.
Are you going through a pre amp? Or straight into the speaker
Keep dem great vids comin Kirby! Chomping at the bit to start a build, but have to gather what i needs first, lol. Thanks for the Insperado!
Love the videos. Great work.
For the chambers you had mentioned for the woofers. Would you still need them if you had a port or passive radiators?
foley2k yup, it's best to always isolate speakers from one another when they play frequencies above ,100hz.
Hi. Would making a speaker enclosure + ported holes make it sound better? Thank you
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Listening on a pair of skull candy headphones, I can just make out lack of clarity in the top end compared to your better quality speakers. The bass is audible but separating them would help keep it tighter. That said, I love these videos. Recently decided to rebuild a pair of speakers me and my father made 15 years ago. Having to go without butt joints though 😔. Great to see the entry level work, hopefully it'll inspire. Keep making videos.
Play bass heavy or Edm for testing speakers and make a passive radiator portable speaker
I like your video
So, it's designed to be a sealed enclosure, but isn't well-sealed? Interesting. I was thinking that it might have more bass if it had a port. Either way, really. But you'd have to tune the port if you made it ported, which... if the goal is a 'simple' build, the port-tuning process is a bit fiddly. (Not that it's all that difficult, but it's several more steps.)
Nice cabinet design.
I really like this format.
Waiting for a studio monitor build!!! Pleaase!!! The decent ones out there are really expensive!
Yo Kirby, your suggestions to improve the enclosure were pretty cool and all - but why didn't you go through with the changes and let us hear the difference?
Not bad sound. Getting ready to build my first speaker soon. Great channel.
I don't understand why there is one tweeter but two woofers and you say you want to separate the woofers into their own cabinets with a divider as if the BT speaker is stereo? How can it be stereo with only one tweeter? I assumed it was a mono build. I think there are just a little more steps that should be done at the absolute minimum.
1) Add a second tweeter and make it a proper 2ch stereo sound or leave it as is but make it mono.
2) Make it a complete first order crossover by adding a cheap iron core inductor (maybe 1.5mh at the mimimum) to the woofers. This will help a lot with the peaky midrange problem and allow more bass perception at the cost of some efficiency.
3) Put resistors on the tweeters to balance them with the woofers. Currently the tweeter is tearing my head off lol.
These are simple and the most basic steps. Seems to me would cost about $30 more to add this and it would make the speaker way more listenable.
How do you run a single-channel 2-way setup off of a dual channel amp? I've been trying to plan a build with that amp but am frustrated that I need to use double the number of components to get the most out of that amp since the channels aren't bridgeable.
I don't know how Kirby wired it but what I do know is that the TPA3110 Chips that those 15watt Dayton boards use are bridgeable. I'm not sure about the other boards though. But you could wire it mono bridged as an MMT speaker so to say
I don´t know if this is due to the recording, but i think they definitely lack some bass, so why separate the inner chamber? That would mean an even bigger loss of volume and therefore bass
Nice build Kirkby. I agree with other comments that low end is lacking but the mids are clear and bright enough for a Bluetooth speaker.
oohh i see the ps4 console,, and the tv is greatly mounted bro,, for the speaker, it sounds pretty good, coz the tools you used were basic,
Hi kirby love your vids
Yeah as I thought in the build video, could definitely use some passive radiators to bring out the bass more...
Nice I love speaker's. Good luck
I dont know other subs, but those "free" plans at 100K never happened.. at least i checked for 5day in a row when you reached the 100K. Anyway, i would love to see a full build of a bluetooth speaker with crossover analysis, volume calculation, charts with spl and other measures, etc
Yes it did.
bad luck for me then... i was on the site all 5 days straight :( But ok, its geat so ear that was fullfilled
Nuno Correia yeah it was maybe a week and a half after he hit the number. Sorry you missed it.
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Good job bro....👍
I want to know how to build the black towers behind you in the video.
Needs more bananas! Would ported chambers for the woofers sound better?
Yeah, that should help. According to Parts Express, the F3 in a sealed box would be 142 Hz, and 81 Hz vented.
It's hard to find small speakers that reach even to 80 Hz in a sealed enclosure. I was looking and the 3" HiVi B3N should be able to do it, but it's response is all over the place and I'm looking for good sound quality.
It's sound good I like !!!
Sound great but need some punchy bass!
Sir please show us circuitry daigram
it´s not the best bluetooth speaker, but a million times better than smartphone speakers
Ear bleedingly bright and class D type sound signature🤷♂
It still drives me absolutely friggin crazy that your tweeter is only wired up to one channel. Does that amp only run mono and then divide it to both channels? If not, that's going to cause like literally the worst listening experience ever for heavy stereo dependent tracks like Pink Floyd's Welcome to the Machine, The Beatles' Eleanor Rigby, and other tracks that have stereo phasing and sound staging.
SkyRumbler I don't know how Kirby wired it but what I do know is that the TPA3110 Chips that those Dayton boards use are bridgeable so you could wire it mono bridge as an MMT speaker so to say
Your sound is poor. You have to include a filter(crossover) at the correct crossover frequency. Knowthing to with airflow.3db point.
Hmmm... test? Not really. (subjective test is irrelevant with youtube and no objectives measures)
I disagree. It is a test, but for him and his ears. That being said, it is NOT a loudspeaker measurement that can be trusted or used for reference. If you were in his position, I bet you'd do the same thing, or something very similar. He designs and builds loudspeakers on a regular basis, but he doesn't just do it for himself, he shares the whole process! So why on earth would he not film a quick clip of the working finished product, after filming the rest of the process? AND on top of that, he has Patreon supporters who fund this! If I were a Patreon supporter, or if I received funding to create content, I would follow through with giving the audience and supporters content that they enjoy. SO yes, this is a test.
You’r right, he’s sharing the result (and I would do it in the same way, certainly uglier) but for me, shearing a result is not a test.
In the same way, move around speakers with a camera, it’s more a camera test than speaker test.
Yo- I'm not going to even bother.
*insert grammar nazi meme here*
If I express myself badly, sorry english is not my native language.
Create Phones 7.1 for cellphones...
It seems like there's a significant lack of bass and no sub-bass.
I was expecting objective numerical measurements instead of you pointing a mic at the speaker.
Tha low spectrum is poor.