Can DIY Speakers compete? Check this out!

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  • Опубликовано: 29 ноя 2024

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  • @slotslidershoslotcars
    @slotslidershoslotcars 6 лет назад +11

    Paul Klipsch was doing DIY .. nuff said.
    With really good woodworking skills , good tools and top quality components , you can make speakers that will put a huge percentage of big brand units to shame.
    Building the cabinet is the most difficult part of the project. After that it is just installing components in holes !
    With the ability to seek help and idea on the web , speaker building can be downright fun and EXTREMELY REWARDING!
    Build a pair and have badges made with YOUR name instead of a major brand on the grills... very cool indeed !

  • @Toid
    @Toid 7 лет назад +8

    Your friend did an awesome job with those speakers! I love the upcycling! In fact, my whole channel is about how to make DIY audio. It is so refreshing to see people do videos like this. I hope more people have their eyes opened by your video!

  • @afrog2666
    @afrog2666 7 лет назад +23

    Of course DIY can compete, all you need is the right materials and a good design, then pair it with good drivers and power them with a decent amp, voilà!
    My DIY portable speaker isn`t my best work, but it beats the crap out of my store bought bluetooth speakers..
    DIY is the way to go if you have the tools, the time, and the know how.
    SO much more satisfying :)

    • @saketnaik1
      @saketnaik1 3 года назад

      Is there any way you could build decent audiophile speakers without too many tools? I'm thinking fo building my first pair, but since I'm still a High-school kid my parents don't really trust me with too many of the tools required

    • @Art-AI-and-beyond
      @Art-AI-and-beyond 2 года назад +1

      @@saketnaik1 Of course. Its just down to your design and DIY skills to get there. I would advise to keep your cabinet design fairly simple to start with using simple woodworking tools such as a Skill saw and a circle jig for the driver holes. Later you can add more workshop tools such as a table saw or just build a CNC machine like I did for greater accuracy and repeatability. Keep your finishes simple too. High gloss paint finishes are very tricky and time consuming to achieve so i'd stick to satin finishes with Poly, Lacquer or oils. Even if your cabinet finish isn't top notch it can still sound as good as the best high end speakers out there if you take your time matching the right drivers and designing a good crossover .

    • @engjds
      @engjds 2 года назад

      DIY hasn't a hope on improving quality high end designs, we just havent got the manufacturing capability to produce boxes that are resonance free, take jamo concert 8.

  • @Justwantahover
    @Justwantahover 7 лет назад +4

    You can make great tweeters that handle heaps of power for hardly anything. I got an amp that has 200 + 200 watts @ 0.1% distortion, and I haven't blown one tiny full-range "tweeter" yet (and I keep blowing normal tweeters all the time). So I had to do something, so I tried using 2" full-range speakers (Logitech one's) from computer speakers. lol But I radically modified them and I run them out of the box (slightly resisted for 6 ohms). With a sharp object I scribed a line around the voice coil center on the full-range cone, about 5 mm out, around in a circle. This allows more transient response cos it can vibrate like independently to the rest of the cone. I also got rid of the center piece on the full range speaker and left a hole in the center. I then glued a 6 mm triangle made of coffee-can-seal (tin-foil) onto where the cone starts, and the tin-foil triangle is pointed in toward the center. The foil makes cymbals sound like they are being hit and sound like they are made of metal. lol Great "S's" too, really pleasant treble (with power handling). Also being ran outside-the-box is essential cos it not only makes the treble go higher, but also makes the treble louder. And the top-end is so sweet (when it's ran out-of-the-box). Only use a 2.2 mf cap on the 2" full-range, any bigger cap will sound harsh (being out-of-the-box) and so you obviously need to run it with the cap on (and never without one when out-of-the-box). lol The cap also makes the treble go higher than without a cap, cos the cap "pushes" the high-end signal through the cap more than it would normally flow (without the cap). And with the small cap, it will increase frequency response in the top-end and this is also how you get such a great power handling. A 2.2 mf cap with 200 watts going through the full-range is like 2 watts without the cap (which is about what the speakers normally handle). 2 watter full-ranges have thicker voice-coils than tweeters and that's why they handle so much (with a cap). But if you get high wattage tiny full-range drivers, they will have even thicker voice-coils. So the 2 watters are better. lol Combined with the two mods mentioned above, and being out-of-the-box, and with the cap, it sounds pretty amazing for how cheap it is. Try it, before you start thinking I'm a nut-job. :) I run mine with 6" med drivers (coaxial and phase-aligned) set inside a large voice-coil throat in the med drivers (rare as rocking horse shit). I also run the med driver out-of-the-box (with the 2" full-ranges in the centers). Running med out-the-box is tricky, I choked and heavily resisted the out-of-the-box med speaker (upper med is increased a lot when out-of-the-box) so it has to have like 70 ohms resistance to blend properly. lol And combined with some med coming from the woofer as well, it makes a balanced med sound (when you get it right and how you want it). The woofer is in a double chamber bass reflex box. The double chamber gives it much better bass, with the woofer in the smaller chamber and the bass-port in the larger chamber (and another port vent joining the chambers). Just a bit of woodwork and you have way better bass. They are the best speakers I have heard, with the phase-aligned open cone sound combined with mellow med from the woofer (blended as much as I can with the crossover). To run med speakers out-of-the box you have to be really radical with the crossover to make it sound even acceptable. lol But I have practice a lot and my speakers are sounding much better, since I started and it's a lot easier to make crossovers. The crossover is more expensive than the drivers (the copper coils). Cheap woofers are "boomy" but sound great with the right crossover (that costs more than the woofer). The sound quality is there but badly lack efficiency after making it sound good with the crossover by taking out the boom peak with a large choke and another smaller choke. You can only mostly take away stuff with crossovers and only active crossovers and graphic equalisers can "add" stuff, so my inefficient cheap woofers become even more inefficient. lol But my full-range tweeters are not very efficient either (but sound amazing and high power handling) and with 200 watts who needs efficiency. But my speakers are still way-way more efficient than electrostatic speakers (by-a-large-measure). And with phase-aligned treble&med and the out-of-the-box open sound, they sound nearly as good as electrostatics. But at a small fraction of the price.

  • @solitaire5142
    @solitaire5142 8 лет назад +36

    Wife, kid and two pets are not enough distractions nor is a single chair placed in the middle of the stage :)

    • @MrTruth111
      @MrTruth111 8 лет назад +5

      :) And not even in the sweetspot, corner of couch...

  • @kimchee94112
    @kimchee94112 6 лет назад +3

    This is fun if you want to get into it. Could be as simple getting a full range car speaker, slap it in the cardboard box put some fiberglass insulation in it and you're done. Or as sophisticated as having your own anechoic chamber testing your creations for frequency response, distortion, efficiency and so forth. Probably not a bad idea to have some woodworking experience and some knowledge off electronics like the building your own crossovers. It's really hard to build it from scratch since you still need to buy raw speakers if that's what you wanted to do.

  • @TroubledCarOwner
    @TroubledCarOwner 9 лет назад +1

    I have a very similar idea; a full range and very low reaching woofer pointed up and down respectively, and a wide dispersion tweeter pointing towards the listener. I was inspired by my recent experience of accidentally making my naked speaker driver "disappear" by having it pointed up. I can only tell sound was coming from it if I have my face literally only inches away.

  • @klbird
    @klbird 8 лет назад +9

    Ron, I built my first speaker when I was 15, from an article in November 1955 issue of Popular Electronics. It was the Dave Weems $2.00 Celotex corner enclosure. I've been building my own since then and have only owned one set of commercially built speakers, long since disposed of. You can achieve high end sound for the fraction of the cost if you DIY. However they may not have exotic enclosures made of high cost material that add nothing to the sound quality.

    • @Assimilator702
      @Assimilator702 8 лет назад +1

      But once you get the sound right you CAN make a high end exotic enclosure if you know what you're doing. And if you don't know what you're doing you shouldn't be building speakers.

    • @dowjones5981
      @dowjones5981 6 лет назад +4

      You sound like a fucken audio snob!! Get over yourself! If it sounds good to your ears than your all good!!

    • @harryme472
      @harryme472 5 лет назад

      @@carlosoliveira-rc2xt No , actually.

    • @harryme472
      @harryme472 5 лет назад

      @@dowjones5981 There are some better than excellent home built speakers out there. Carlos , I could put your theory ( opinion ) to shame with some simple blind listening tests.

  • @robertwang7825
    @robertwang7825 2 года назад +2

    The DIY speaker I really want to try build is an open baffle single driver Lii Audio 10inch silver line around 95 dB sensitivity with no crossover for abt US1k and the solid wood baffle is around US200. Pair it with my Willsenton R800i Class A 50w SET tube amp with rolled tubes( the tubes actually costs more than the amp ) - would be quite interesting I think. I’ve seen it on Decware channel.

  • @TD402dd
    @TD402dd 6 лет назад

    DIY is a description of the builder, and it's the builders knowledge that affects the quality of the build. I built and Swans M1 and the M1b and I still have the M1b. They sound as good as most medium size pedestal mounts. The drivers are the same as the factory speaker, but I used a Dayton 12db/octave crossover and they still sound amazing. The larger the speakers, the more complexity to make it clear, neutral, and detailed.

  • @justinc3898
    @justinc3898 4 года назад +27

    Are there any design specs for these, so that we might be able to make our own? Thank you 😊

    • @tyzerro
      @tyzerro 4 года назад +1

      Hear! Hear! I second that!

    • @mindatpeace888
      @mindatpeace888 4 года назад +3

      Please share build 🙏

    • @amanteapasionado6836
      @amanteapasionado6836 4 года назад +2

      Yea, and what model and year Volvo did they come out of so we can go to the junk yard and get some ourselves lol

    • @Rocker6969
      @Rocker6969 2 года назад

      Yes. I absolutely want to make these. I even have the cabinets ready. Some old kenwoods. I'll buy the plans for $5. Let your buddy know :)

  • @Sky1
    @Sky1 9 лет назад +4

    I did the same test when I was in college compared my home brew some Ohm E's. Mine won. my cabinets were converted antique oak night stands

  • @LouMontana-wc7nr
    @LouMontana-wc7nr 4 года назад

    This is a fantastic video and thank you for making the time to do this.
    I love resuing old speakers and making them work like new again and then finding a new home for them.
    Kind of like a pet rescue.

  • @kencohagen4967
    @kencohagen4967 4 года назад +6

    Can I get plans for these? I'd like to do something similar.

  • @davidperry4013
    @davidperry4013 4 года назад +1

    I like to build high efficiency 2 way tube amp friendly speakers with Acoustic Elegance TD15M woofers and Aurum Cantus G1 tweeters crossed over at 2.2 kHz at LR 4th order, and 45Hz port tuning. I like to hear the hi hats fizzle and sparkle, the guitar and vocals to sound live and clean, and the kick drum to pound my chest when listening to the Police a very well known 80s rock band.

  • @moofushu
    @moofushu 9 лет назад +210

    What I don't like about this video is we never get to really see the speakers nor get to see an interview with the builder. It would have been better to show his work shop, see his tools, and him at work making a speaker cabinet.

    • @Newrecordday2013
      @Newrecordday2013  9 лет назад +43

      +moofushu thats a good suggestion, ill work on that!

    • @catrinacompositions
      @catrinacompositions 9 лет назад +3

      +moofushu aaaaaand we need to hear them too!

    • @catrinacompositions
      @catrinacompositions 9 лет назад +2

      but i m impressed he cleaned the room, and the dog is a sure winner :)

    • @Justwantahover
      @Justwantahover 8 лет назад +1

      +moofushu But You Tube has sort-of given away his secret. The full range speakers pointing upward, and the woofer and tweeter like normal. A cool idea, makes it spatial, I suppose (going by what they said). You can't tell on You Tube.

    • @macoygunida
      @macoygunida 7 лет назад +2

      moofushu and I was waiting for the camera to be on the guy that was being interviewed but this guy just wanted the lime lights all the way. you sir are a useless ego maniac youtuber.

  • @Thanson199415
    @Thanson199415 8 лет назад +32

    that's why i never underestimate homemade audio equipment, there's times it can destroy manufactured equipment

    • @harryme472
      @harryme472 8 лет назад +3

      Yes indeed it can , and often does.
      It`s part of the fun of it all.

    • @ImpiantoFacile
      @ImpiantoFacile 7 лет назад +6

      Tyler Hanson It's like prebuilt or custom PCs, there's just no comparison if you know how to build them well

    • @harryme472
      @harryme472 7 лет назад

      Yes indeed , I have been fortunate to hear some excellent home built speakers and amplifiers by some very talented guys . There is an element of artistry involved.

    • @Simone-qr6mq
      @Simone-qr6mq 6 лет назад

      well, I built some speakers with dual cone 4" ( 10cm) drivers. They sound good, but they show their limits in high frequencies and, despite the 6 centimeters of internal widht of the bass reflex tube ( which is also 11 centimeters long), they can' t reproduce bass frequencies below 68 Hz.

    • @sayalaperbandel
      @sayalaperbandel 6 лет назад

      Because no budjet limit

  • @tedmrunt
    @tedmrunt 8 лет назад +14

    I would be interested to see the design of this setup

  • @jcamp3606
    @jcamp3606 5 лет назад +3

    Love my diy bookshelfs, one of my favourite pair of speakers.

  • @hadleymanmusic
    @hadleymanmusic Год назад

    My first box I made I was 11 and it was a 2001 slab cardboard box almost 3 foot wide by 5 foot tall about 8 inches deep heavy too. thick thick walled with metal braces packin box never seen one like it even since then musta had one inch thick walls. So me and my dad found some marantz wood speakers ol girl threw off the balcony at the apartments and they were busted in the dumpster but the drivers were still good 2-10's 2 tweeters. We made a mono cab 2 tens below the middle and the tweeters above the middle and ear phone jacked it to my clock radio. We glued square cloth over each speaker. Then I drew with pens and crayons " ELPHON JOHN" at the top and the tweeters were his glasses then bent by magzine the woofers were his nostrils. Back then i listend to AM.

    • @hadleymanmusic
      @hadleymanmusic Год назад

      Oh the big paragraph was I dig buildin speakers too !!

  • @Bishka100
    @Bishka100 7 лет назад +3

    That was an interesting vid. I'd like to see/hear more DIY speakers. I always felt that there some speaker designs that big manufacturers ignore simply because those designs do not lend themselves to mass production and/or volume sales.

  • @CorvetteCoonass
    @CorvetteCoonass 4 года назад +1

    I have a Aiwa stereo from the year 2000 that is setup in a similar fashion. My listening space has an angled ceiling so I lay down the speakers in the front corners of my room pointed upward and everything comes at me in a wide sound stage. As of currently, the setup is not in place but I'm thinking of going back to it as I miss that wide sound stage.

    • @dmo848
      @dmo848 2 года назад

      I remember those. Every pair sounded damn good. Wish I kept mine. Threw em out when the sound bars came around. Can't believe the stuff I just threw in the garbage. Smh

  • @paulpeters6091
    @paulpeters6091 9 лет назад +1

    P.s...what are your thoughts on the Tidal System that was used in this episode? And how is the music selection? I am considering Tidal or Spotify.. Thx.

  • @snowblow1984
    @snowblow1984 8 лет назад +7

    There are speaker DIY clubs across US. Midwest Audio Club or NY/NJ DIY club. Many others.
    People build speakers from 2 pieces of MDF nailed together to ultra high performance line arrays and DSPed multi amped monsters.

    • @TheFootbaldd
      @TheFootbaldd 8 лет назад

      Any you know of in TX? I haven't heard of anything yet, but that would be interesting to see, and could certainly have something to bring myself.

    • @snowblow1984
      @snowblow1984 8 лет назад

      You should ask on Parts Express Tech Talk. Most of the US DIYers hang out on that forum.
      I am sure there are a few speaker builders in TX (I know a couple of guys) but not aware of a club. I can also ask around.

    • @Kelocyde
      @Kelocyde 8 лет назад

      Saw some little MONSTERS at the speaker design 2015. They were slightly bigger than "bosecubes" but sounded fantastic. I love that the DIY community destroys the money-hungry Salks of the industry.

    • @snowblow1984
      @snowblow1984 8 лет назад +1

      Salk actually makes nice speakers and they are priced very well for what you get. Also, made in US.
      DIYing speakers is a hobby and the objective is entirely different from commercial manufacturing.
      Having said that, there are excellent as well as horrid DIY speaker designs.

    • @Kelocyde
      @Kelocyde 8 лет назад

      They are expensive for what they are.

  • @rickmackay4758
    @rickmackay4758 2 года назад

    Fun experiment. Speaker builders take note. A nice, looks like maybe Scanspeak ring dome tweeter out in the open air. I would guess they image nicely. Tweeters on a big flat baffle board are not in the game.

  • @BaronKresnar
    @BaronKresnar Год назад

    Would you share build plans for the DIY loudspeakers shown in the video? Also, does it use passive crossover? I'm always interested to build a Linkwitz LXMini replica that uses passive crossover instead of DSP. Many thanks.

  • @franzb69
    @franzb69 6 лет назад

    morels are one of the best car speakers you can get. so customizing a set for home use are gonna be awesome. it would perform even much better than attached on a door panel in a car somewhere.

  • @sigibaes
    @sigibaes 8 лет назад +31

    Do they compete? No, there is no competition to a very well designed and build DIY speaker :)

    • @serg2963
      @serg2963 Год назад +1

      I agree with this 100%!

  • @anubisprince36
    @anubisprince36 8 лет назад +1

    I seriously want a mini bookshelf version of these.

  • @harryturdknocker82
    @harryturdknocker82 8 лет назад +2

    1:44 At first I thought he was thinking the tweeters had horns lol
    Also, listening with a Schiit Modi DAC and Magni 2 Uber with Fidelio X2's, I actually get a pretty good idea of how these sound in that room, even if the mic isn't quite in the sweet spot. Still sounds impressive to me.
    Also the cabinets made me think of the Dynaco A-35's, IDK if those are acoustic suspension or internally if they're designed the same way, but if I did a homemade speaker that's what I'd base my design off of. I think it's basically half the speaker cab is where the woofer is, the other half is mostly isolated but there's an opening so air can move in and out of the chamber of the other half. That probably gives some of the benefit of bass suspension, but with the benefit of acoustic suspension at the same time.
    As much as I love my really nice headphone setup(almost don't care at all about speakers anymore), if I get speakers I'm 99% sure it'll be the ELAC Uni-Fi UB5's when they're out, supposed to be comparable sonically(not necessarily on par I know) with many times more expensive speakers at only $500. Supposed to have amazing bass performance not just for the size but for not having a sub, really excited about them but would like to see how the 6-inch version turns out.
    Magni 2 Uber has preamping too, so I just need a really nice amp which will probably be the APPJ PA0901A in silver if it has enough power, or the EK Japan: 22 partly because it would just look great with my Schiit stacked on it(lol).

  • @travis4798
    @travis4798 9 лет назад

    Just built some budget speakers myself. First time I heard them my jaw dropped. Never knew I could build anything like it. To answer your question, oh they compete! ;)

    • @utubecomment21
      @utubecomment21 9 лет назад +1

      +Travis Piper I suspect that many feel that speaker design is beyond them, and leave it to the likes of B&W, Sonus, Wilson Audio to sell us overblown and way overpriced speakers, and that we somehow are hearing 'high-end'
      Would would be surprised how many $10k, 20k, 30k speakers use the bottom end Tymphany drivers costing literally a few dollars
      www.parts-express.com/brand/tymphany/465
      for example, you'll be surprised how many $5k - 10k PMC and ATC speakers use this $16 tweeter .. yum
      www.parts-express.com/tymphany-bc25sc55-04-1-square-frame-tweeter--264-1024
      yep, that's 'High-end' alright!!

    • @travis4798
      @travis4798 9 лет назад +1

      utubecomment21 Yah speakers priced that high just seems to have white van written on it somewhere. Almost like they want you to have "the best" sound experience but at the same time rip you off a few thousand $.

    • @ColoradoStreaming
      @ColoradoStreaming 9 лет назад +1

      +utubecomment21 Not to mention low quality Crossover networks that they assume nobody will ever see. Parts Express for the win BTW

    • @utubecomment21
      @utubecomment21 9 лет назад

      ColoradoStreaming
      Of course!

  • @WoodstockG54
    @WoodstockG54 2 года назад

    What generation are those Galo’s? I had a pair of the Galo nucleus and a pair of 1st Gen galos ref. 3.. Use to fed them with the Rouge 150 amp.

  • @ArcadeDude44
    @ArcadeDude44 9 лет назад +5

    I REALLY want to build some speaker setups that utilize the old horn drivers that I never used. I just may do this, some day!:). Thanks for the inspiration.

  • @JukeboxAlley
    @JukeboxAlley 2 года назад +1

    They definitely can compete, being a huge fan and one of my fav speakers the Gallo nucleus you have are top notch, I used as a reference to the vocals and mids when building my own, as u know the Gallos vocals are probably one of the best in the game period, took 6 months, I chose a transmission line cabinet for a jbl 2226hpl pro driver, rear ported, midrange is a pro celestion neodymium driver (full range) and tweeters are large heil ESS amt on top, the whole top end including mid is dipolar and sounds just perfect to me, they are biamped, and I've compared fortes, the Gallos, infinity kappas, alotta stuff, these have the strengths of the others and none of the shortcoming, but I will add the Gallos had no shortcoming, still my favorite pound for pound speaker to date besides the ones I built, but mine are a little too heavy sometimes at 100 pounds each.

  • @max.racing
    @max.racing 3 года назад

    Pls share the build and the parts! It would help me so much to safe money and still enjoy good music!

  • @joshuaventura6449
    @joshuaventura6449 9 лет назад +24

    I couldn't see anything anyways! He was all paranoid about me peeking. Very impressive sounding speakers

  • @kilove1
    @kilove1 9 лет назад +4

    nice one Ron.. i am one who honestly believe that D.I.Y speaker are not just good ,but can compete with most Hi-End manufacture out there. regards ,

    • @alexsnowberg2181
      @alexsnowberg2181 9 лет назад +3

      Agreed. Speaker design is a combo of science and the understanding of what sounds good. A knowledgeable DIY'er can build speakers that sound just as good as any from a manufacture.

  • @venkatagirikotte4019
    @venkatagirikotte4019 3 года назад

    The sound would have been better if tweeter was pointed up and the mid-range to the front. Just saying.
    Also, what was the sound clip played on the speaker?

  • @onewheelup
    @onewheelup 9 лет назад +2

    its all about the placement,see i was like put them in the corners,but then when i saw them firing up,i was like well i don't know,and morels aren't cheap.oh and last but certainly not least.i would rather have a rectangle box with correct air space over a fancy looking fiberglass set up any day of the week,especially in car audio,I'm waiting on some parts from PE and can't wait.take it easy man and crank it up.thumbs up.

  • @justins.1283
    @justins.1283 6 лет назад

    That's the nice thing about doing homemade speakers you can start drivers from anywhere that your able to get them and if you're willing to take the time you can experiment and get the sound that you want without spending a whole lot of money

    • @Justwantahover
      @Justwantahover 3 года назад

      My drivers have a gap between the driver and the speaker box hole. Best voice sound l ever heard. I buy drivers and crossover components and design my speakers from scratch and also mod the drivers. Vast improvement to original drivers. See my channel if you are curious.

    • @FSXgta
      @FSXgta 2 года назад

      @@Justwantahover must be some hybrid version of open baffle, but with more bass

  • @sweetooth0
    @sweetooth0 6 лет назад

    I'm likely spoiled, but ALL of the homemade speakers I've listened to absolutely CRUSH anything in a comparable range bought from the store.

  • @1981_Reacts
    @1981_Reacts 2 года назад +1

    Just buy some 4 ohm car speakers by jl audio for $200 like c2 kit. They come with crossovers too. Get a cabinet and copper wire terminals and there we go. Budget audiophile speakers.

  • @elvislad
    @elvislad 9 лет назад +1

    Its the those upward firing jobbies that do the magic,Ive a set of Castle Howard S2's and they sound weirdly spacey as well.

  • @pankaj2av
    @pankaj2av 7 лет назад

    It would be very helpful if you can please share the dimensions of the enclosures and the speaker driver sizes. I would like to build a similar setup and try for myself

  • @hadleymanmusic
    @hadleymanmusic Год назад

    Question; would you enjoy some hard rock type music (guitar oriented) in Quadraphonic? On your livingroom surround sound system??? I just wanna make that kinda music so im askin who might enjoy it?

  • @Rocker6969
    @Rocker6969 2 года назад +1

    Is it possible to get the build on those speakers? ill pay $5 for the complete specs/plans. I want to try that out. Let me know :)

  • @UMann-pz8lf
    @UMann-pz8lf 6 лет назад +1

    moofushu, Thanks for posting. I bet You enjoyed the look of disbelief on the audiophile's face when you revealed the sound was from home made devices and not some $2000-4000 speaker set. Would be interested to see what kind of speakers those were. My Guess is 3 way with passive cross overs, without Radiators. We used to build these with three folds for the Drivers, the Mid ranges were directs and the Tweeters were always external, sometimes the Piezoelectric Tweeters were mounted on a shelf bracket for rigidity and ease. In this case, these are just on top of the cabinet with a mounting routed out of the top. Sometimes we built them with Horn Tweeters when we wanted more volume than brilliance. We found that sealed cabinet without ports always produced truer sounds. But that was back in the early mid 80's, curious to see what is around these days and if they use active cross overs for homemade speakers.

  • @menono3420
    @menono3420 7 лет назад

    Ok I was concentrating of audio for the most part and just kinda watching the pups scurry round on the sofa till the end when it was time to take off the blind fold. I just mentioned that because I haven't rewound to check so it may have been something obvious earlier in video that would have prevented this hallucination. What's a good day to run. 4 minutes and two seconds you can maybe go back up a few more seconds but right at 4 minutes and 2 seconds is where my hallucinations again. Haha your blind foldee appeared to save his right red chuck crossed up and resting on his left knee. Haha go back and watch it with that in mind. Aaah that messes with me. Haha

  • @pixluxxbuiltthewave
    @pixluxxbuiltthewave 3 месяца назад

    Apparently Volvos have one of the best sound systems according to a lot of my friends

  • @wuznar
    @wuznar 6 лет назад +1

    any chance we could get a parts list and specs on the enclosure?

  • @catsupchutney
    @catsupchutney 4 года назад +1

    Is there a link to the plans?

  • @snuffpappy
    @snuffpappy 3 года назад

    Do you know of any reason not to place a midrange below a woofer with the tweeter above the woofer? Im looking at modifying some 2 way store bought speakers into 3 ways and can only place the mid under the woofer. Thoughts?

    • @mikafoxx2717
      @mikafoxx2717 2 года назад +1

      You want drivers that share frequencies to be close to each other, or off axis response suffers. The steeper the filters the less effect this has.

  • @tubeless1982
    @tubeless1982 4 года назад

    Hi bro.. many diy speakers are worth to compare with high priced speakers in market.. Does ur frnd has any website or any RUclips video of the diy speaker. so that we can try similar and enjoy the music..

  • @NicB-Creations
    @NicB-Creations 8 лет назад

    So is the top driver running full range and the woofer + tweeter as a 2 way or is it like a 3-way with the top driver just playing mids?

    • @TijmenJanssen
      @TijmenJanssen 8 лет назад

      Nic B I believe he said full range but I doubt it would run the lowest bass as well. at least I hope they don't. I wonder how this would affect voice accuracy and differences in phase. but probably the phase difference is what makes it sound spatial. by letting everything bounce off all the walls first. would be cool if you could manually adjust phasing to your liking.

  • @paulpeters6091
    @paulpeters6091 9 лет назад +6

    Awesome, however I would like to hear some more of it....
    And how about the crossover? Thx.

  • @thomshere
    @thomshere 9 лет назад +6

    I would LOVE to build a pair of these! Please do us a favor and see if your friend will be willing to sell plans for these (or others as well). I would be interested and I'm sure other would be also.

  • @HarleyBussell
    @HarleyBussell 8 лет назад +1

    Is there details on how to build these?

    • @joshua43214
      @joshua43214 8 лет назад

      +Harley Bussell It would not matter if there was unless you could get the exact same parts. The magic in systems like this is always in the cross over. Any decent set of drivers that are reasonably well matched, will produce really impressive sound if the cross overs are done properly.

  • @truckyouable
    @truckyouable 4 года назад

    More info about the build please.

  • @pcrhkr
    @pcrhkr 4 года назад

    I have DYI speakers. My second pair. My first pair was directly compared to 12" yamaha paper woofer studio monitors with beryllium drivers. Mine where JBL lancer knock offs. It was close. The lows where better on the JBLs which has 12lb ALNICO aquadag woofers. The beryllium drivers where more crisp, accurate. My second a Paragon Acoutics towers 5 q. ft. knock offs but customized are better yet. They do not look, or sound like DYI.

  • @bentnissen
    @bentnissen 9 лет назад

    What cheap loudspeakers would you recommend ? I have Klipsch Rf-62 II today.

    • @Newrecordday2013
      @Newrecordday2013  9 лет назад

      +Bent Nissen Whats cheap?

    • @bentnissen
      @bentnissen 9 лет назад

      with the best sound for the money.

    • @Newrecordday2013
      @Newrecordday2013  9 лет назад

      I mean, specifically, whats your budget?

    • @bentnissen
      @bentnissen 9 лет назад

      About 1000 $

    • @ColoradoStreaming
      @ColoradoStreaming 9 лет назад

      +Bent Nissen Those RF-62s are pretty good speakers. Do you not like them or just want something else?

  • @andrejensen7837
    @andrejensen7837 4 года назад

    I made some ribbons 3,3 cm wide 120 cm long. Powerfull neo magnets a Lundahl transformer. Crossed over at 200hz to a AE dipole 18''. Driven by a hypex fusion dsp Amp. You can make thrue highend yourself

  • @breauxp
    @breauxp 4 года назад +2

    5 yrs and no linked follow ups?
    Need more info, please!

  • @59seank
    @59seank 9 лет назад +3

    Are there plans available for these speakers?

    • @Newrecordday2013
      @Newrecordday2013  9 лет назад

      +59seank Sorry, no plans available at this time...

    • @Justwantahover
      @Justwantahover 8 лет назад

      +59seank Just try it. Have the woofer and tweeter normal, and a full-range (not a med) on top, pointing upward.

    • @Justwantahover
      @Justwantahover 8 лет назад

      +New Record Day People will just try it anyway, I reckon. A woofer and tweeter like normal, and a full-rang speaker (not a med) pointing upward. You could do it with any old stereo speakers, wouldn't sound as good as the one's on this video (without a crossover) but they would still get the effect (and they can always twiddle the bass&treble). lol

  • @Magnulus76
    @Magnulus76 5 лет назад

    I'm wondering why there is a midrange driver on top. Perhaps it's going for a more omnidirectional pattern. If so, it should have a whizzer cone, rather than having a tweeter.

  • @nickolaymiltenov
    @nickolaymiltenov 6 лет назад

    Are you shure this is the correct speaker positioning and the non insulated walls are good enough for audio testing?

  • @Mrch33ky
    @Mrch33ky 3 года назад

    Listening with eye shades is a great way to maximize your listening experience.

  • @miguelangelmontenegro9939
    @miguelangelmontenegro9939 3 месяца назад

    Hi!
    The speaker on the top is good ? , really works?...
    Is like the Bose reflecting speakers system, or something like that ?
    Thanx !
    Nice dogs 😂
    Cheers from Buenos Aires Argentina 🤙

  • @musiccritic8704
    @musiccritic8704 5 лет назад +1

    I’d like to know how much they cost to build.

  • @dentman67
    @dentman67 5 лет назад

    Wow, the edge defraction would be crazy we with that design.

    • @Justwantahover
      @Justwantahover 4 года назад

      I reckon all the drivers slanted at an angle upwards would sound the most realistic and ambient. Semi omni and semi dipole like an average of the instruments. Still a compromise cos some instruments are full on omni (like a violin and drums and cymbals) and some are full on frontal (like a trumpet sax and voice). The slanted drivers are a compromise between the two. The speaker in this video sort of do that but either extreme and at separate frequencies. Theoretically up the creek but in practice may sound awesome. That's the thing with speakers.

  • @ramonborreguero3182
    @ramonborreguero3182 7 лет назад

    Can i have info please to build that speakers.

  • @kaedeschulz5422
    @kaedeschulz5422 5 лет назад

    Written before watching:
    Yes they can i mean why shouldn't DIY speaker's be able to compete with one you can buy of the shelf? You can get very good driver's and with some knowledge you can build something very good!
    Or you buy a kit. There are many great kit's out there!
    After watching:
    Those speaker's in the Video are coloring machines!
    But every ones taste is different.
    His reaction was very funny hehe :D

  • @AudiophileTubes
    @AudiophileTubes 8 лет назад +4

    Very cool video! Recently, a fellow audiophile friend of mine blindfolded me as well, and played a pair of budget $60 dollar Dayton Audio 652-AIR speakers for me (nearfield), and I thought I was listening to expensive British monitors! Source material was a lossless FiiO player running FLAC files. It just goes to show you that in the world of high-end audio, there are many surprises!

    • @Magnulus76
      @Magnulus76 5 лет назад +1

      Probably due to the AMT tweeter they use. The tweeter costs almost as much as the speakers.

    • @justins.1283
      @justins.1283 5 лет назад

      Those Dayton B652s with the AMT tweeter are a bargain and even better if you build a good second order crossover for them. Play with the crossover point and adjust to your ears.

  • @sweetsweatyfeet
    @sweetsweatyfeet 9 лет назад

    Linn Isobariks pulled off this trick with it's top mounted mid and tweeter. Dick Shahinian did something similar in his "omnis". You can also get similar but different "depth" effects by increasing horizontal dispersion by mounting drivers on the sides as well as the front like Radford did in certain models. All these products came out of the 1970s. Nothing radically new in speaker design, just old tricks that work.

  • @notagunfreak8146
    @notagunfreak8146 7 лет назад +5

    no diy cant compete, because diy wins
    i built subwoofers myself and sometimes speakers and a subwoofer from parts express (sub=100 amp=100) and when you built a nice cabinet with wool inside it sounds as good as a 500 dollar sub

    • @richardsinger01
      @richardsinger01 5 лет назад +1

      notagunfreak so you spent $300 on parts and wood, plus an indeterminate amount of time designing and building a subwoofer which sounds equal to a $500 sub any you think you’ve won?

    • @wadimek116
      @wadimek116 Год назад

      @@richardsinger01 I build ultimax 18 from the sealed 113l flat pack. It beats two svs sb 16 ultras while being twice as cheap or more.

  • @michaelanderwald4179
    @michaelanderwald4179 5 лет назад +1

    That room doesn't look treated. How can you do any critical listening in it, if you're mostly hearing the room itself? Cool looking speakers though!

  • @davidbrown3184
    @davidbrown3184 8 лет назад

    It would be great to get some info on those speakers.

    • @Justwantahover
      @Justwantahover 3 года назад

      Buy a 3-way kit (with box plan) and copy this idea with it. That easy!

  • @wh0tube
    @wh0tube 7 дней назад

    From a friend of mine that I met yesterday! 🙂👍

  • @blakeesmith84
    @blakeesmith84 9 лет назад +1

    You should put some acoustic treatments in that room. :)

  • @bentnissen
    @bentnissen 9 лет назад +1

    Can we get the recipe, so we can build these speakers ? With Frendly Regards from Denmark

    • @Justwantahover
      @Justwantahover 3 года назад

      The only way would be is to buy a 3-way speaker kit with box size etc. Dayton Audio sell kits as many other manufacturers. Then just mount the med driver on the top panel instead of the normal mount position. That easy!

  • @Panty-pe7kp
    @Panty-pe7kp 7 лет назад

    Hi Ron, nice blind test and nice speakers. Can you please make a review of these all in one Systems... Devialet Phantom (stereo), Sonos Play 5 (stereo) and naim muso. This would be very great. I m very interested which you like as a well known HiFi-reviewer.

  • @daveapex493
    @daveapex493 3 года назад +1

    Ron - This is probably my third comment on this vid - It keeps popping of in my recommends - I will say "this is still one of my favorite vids from you". Yes, this speaker is not perfect - However, when seeing this again = it does use some of the most modern technologies before its time from "Danny's upward back reflection studio monitors to Dolby Atmos" - Thanks - still think DIY's speaker reviews would be a great addition to your channel

  • @petedavis1040
    @petedavis1040 8 лет назад

    So with that being done, how much for those speakers?

  • @cedarandsound
    @cedarandsound 8 лет назад

    Was their bracing used in the cabinets?

  • @vdochev
    @vdochev 8 лет назад

    So I guess I got to give a go on my SONY Xplode project. It might not be a waste.

    • @FSXgta
      @FSXgta 8 лет назад

      +vdochev you need the right paramaters of the driver to make a good and matching enclosure. If you don't do the research it might end up sounding awful.

  • @gino3286
    @gino3286 5 лет назад

    Very interesting video However when someone can locate speakers position in the room uhm ... the sound should come from the space Sometimes in the best days i had the feeling that the speakers were disconnected. That is amazing. Regards, gino

  • @MichelLinschoten
    @MichelLinschoten 6 лет назад +1

    That room would be my worst nightmare...

  • @ramonborreguero3182
    @ramonborreguero3182 4 года назад

    Who made that speakers is possible to contact someone.
    Thanks in advance

  • @jimjoost105
    @jimjoost105 4 года назад

    You Sir are a trickster and a God all at the same time ;-)

  • @TomasWille
    @TomasWille 9 лет назад +12

    I wanna hang out with these blokes :D

    • @llIIIIlllIIIllI
      @llIIIIlllIIIllI 6 лет назад

      crikey mate! i bahgahhed me ahm!

    • @harryt988
      @harryt988 5 лет назад

      PANTA Music - seems kinda gay

  • @liquidamber
    @liquidamber 4 года назад

    sooo coool...more of this videos ...thanks

  • @arena_rock_man9030
    @arena_rock_man9030 5 лет назад

    Do plans for these speakers exist?

  • @cedarandsound
    @cedarandsound 8 лет назад

    so the speaker drivers are made by Dynaudio?

  • @nicholascremato
    @nicholascremato 8 лет назад

    Ron, why didn't you move the folding chair out of the way so he could hear the soundstage unobstructed?

  • @anandshah71
    @anandshah71 3 года назад

    wish more DIY projects you can look at in future

  • @spencerboaz2385
    @spencerboaz2385 5 лет назад

    Unless your very rich , you can build much better speakers than you can buy off the shelf for just a few hundred bucks . Voigt TL's with 8" full range can sound very good and for only a few hundred bucks .

  • @Pitbull0669
    @Pitbull0669 8 лет назад

    Ok how can we get a pair of these?

  • @CofeeAuLait
    @CofeeAuLait 9 лет назад +2

    There are MANY designs online that will, for sure, outperform comercial speakers for 1/2 of the price.

  • @polyjr
    @polyjr 6 лет назад

    Hi End speakers are designed to delivery clarity, detail, coherence, you go to your rich hipster buddy and listen to an U$ 30.000,00 Hi End set for 30 minutes and you get tired, it becames agressive to your ears. You go you DIYer buddy, and he presents you an nice set with an "DIY 3 way, 12" inch woofer, 4" inch mids, and a cooper-beryllium tweeter", in a bass reflex well designed and build enclosure, or with a vintage Yamaha NS-1000, or an a JBL Jubal and you laugh and enjoy music for hours ! This stuff is made to deliver EUPHONY, design to please your ears, and serve music not the other way.

  • @max.racing
    @max.racing 3 года назад

    Can u link your friend i want to build them myself :-)

  • @chrisguilfoyle8799
    @chrisguilfoyle8799 9 лет назад

    I use Tital too! How do you like it?