Ayo, apparently there’s a strong chance these guns are going to get hit with the realshatter treatment. I was gonna wait a week or two to upload this but I wanted to get it out before it’s irrelevant lol. Thanks for watching
Fuck real shatter. It's done nothing but make the game worse. Same for the ballistics changes from a while back. They've done nothing but make the game less entertaining.
I remember playing this plane back when they were at like 3.7-4.0, they did okay but were never as good as other aircraft for some other countries at the battle rating. When Gaijin up tiered them to 4.3-4.7 they became practically useless, the only thing good about this plane like Joob said is the guns. It climbs and holds speed like a brick, was barely fast enough to keep up with most 3.7 planes let alone the ones at its current battle rating.
@@_Joob That thing is a beast, dude. Try the He-100D-1 for Germany at 2.0. Goes over 400 mph (643 km/h) and has three 7.7 that act like a laser. If you do play it, though, watch your engine temperature. It doesn't need to be on wep all the time because it has great climb and acceleration when level or diving. Definitely one of my favorite low tier air rb planes to fly.
Yeah that thing is dumb. I was gonna try hard for KB with that plane but my internet died first game and I died to some dumb ish the second game so I was like meh. Got that out of my system tho with the hunter f58, only plane I’ve ever actually went sweat mode with,
It's funny how they (J21s and A21) went from 3.7 to 5.3 in AAB. I grinded to jets in just a few days using the swedish 3.7 lineup back then. By far the biggest problem with them imo is that their stealth belts is pure AP, so you have to use tracers.
@@hammodiyourbud5199 Because tracers give away your position, heading and give the enemy more information (their color and pattern for example can let you tell which plane is attacking you from the tracers alone). They tell then from what direction they are being attacked too. Also tracers can obstruct the target in headons or what attacking ground targets. They are also much easier to dodge. And most importantly, they tell your target that they are being attacked, even if you miss. Stealth only does that when they get hit, which is usually too late to take action. Stealth is by far the best belt on majority of guns, the only exceptions I can remember are german Mk 103s and those swedish 13.2mms.
The classic war thunder conundrum... Epic guns so it must be a good plane😂 I really hope they dont screw with the Jap 50cals cause the Ki-67 is just too fun
For most of my games, i normally stay below 2-3000km up. the j21 actually can outrate most other planes in the two circle after the opponent has dived. With you good guns and enough experience. you also mentioned that japanese planes are the bane of your existence but if you stick head ons you can usually set them to fire killing them( they don’t have self sealing fuel). pretty much anything that isn’t a 109 (exept g6)or spitfire you’ll normally outrate opponents. anything else you just head on with your guns set to 800 and it’s free kills ( i have ground more than 2,573,527 SL with this plane ALONE. i also like to stay basically at the ground for most of the start. after you cannot see any targets you climb at about 15 degrees either to the side or back to your base. this allows you to pick off the people that try to dive for your teammates. AND FOR GOD’S SAKE PEOPLE READ THE MORE INFORMATION TAB, IT GIVES YOU INSIGHTS ON THE TYPE OF PLAYSTYLE AND ALL THE STATS
People often don't realize how old APDS ammunition is The French (or atleast one French engineer) was working in the 1930 on APDS before fleeing his country and continuing his word in Britain what led to the British having 17poinder APDS as early as 1940(that's mostly for their towed At guns, the tank version didn't show up till early 1944) The Swedish had APDS for their 37mm guns by the end of 1948
This warbird from my experience is just a plain 1-circle fighter. Don't take it 2-circle, it will be good first but can quickly get worse. Do anything and absolutely anything to be in a 1-circle
a cool plane that i would recommend trying out is the IAR-81C, very good guns at 2.7 but with the flight performance of a 2.0 plane, another plane with good guns at low br would be the mörkö-morane
the guns got nerfed one time. they were much better until the end of 2021, just a fucking laser beam destroying everything from 1.5km. unironically did all the grind marathons with this plane.
if its wings didnt rip off above walking speed it would be ALOT better. This plane mostly does well with a energy advantage since it turns well at mid-high speeds and holds energy okay. But the fact you literally cant come into a fight with more then like a level flight tier of energy (Seriously pretty sure you can fight some planes with a straight line speed higher then this things rip speed) makes it very annoying to play. Also the rip speed makes it entirely helpless against XP 50s
I have an idea, let’s all delete war Thunder and continue on with our life like nothing ever happened. First to relapse has to grind the entire USA tech tree
J21 was my fav plane man. the guns are insane. I used to kill f14 and mla’s with it from how op the guns are and looking back after unlocking the f4e and what not its legendary this thing if you know how to use it like REALLY good it can outturn most Japanese planes just as the hei tada
You are objectively incorrect. The plane is objectively terrible. The “you just don’t know how to play it” argument is invalid because I very clearly know how to play it as shown in this video, lmao.
Ayo, apparently there’s a strong chance these guns are going to get hit with the realshatter treatment. I was gonna wait a week or two to upload this but I wanted to get it out before it’s irrelevant lol.
Thanks for watching
Fuck real shatter. It's done nothing but make the game worse. Same for the ballistics changes from a while back. They've done nothing but make the game less entertaining.
Aww man, not the realshitter!
Yeah only cannons got hit with real shatter the first time, why patch notes are useful. Now MG's are also getting hit.
the 13.2s and 20mms have been converted to realshatter on the dev server
why is gaijin doing this
I remember playing this plane back when they were at like 3.7-4.0, they did okay but were never as good as other aircraft for some other countries at the battle rating. When Gaijin up tiered them to 4.3-4.7 they became practically useless, the only thing good about this plane like Joob said is the guns. It climbs and holds speed like a brick, was barely fast enough to keep up with most 3.7 planes let alone the ones at its current battle rating.
fly the B.239, now that thing is true finnish power, the MGs do absolute slaughter
A month or two ago I was playing the shit out of that in ground RB as anti-CAS. My only ground RB binge I’ve ever had lol
@@_Joob That thing is a beast, dude. Try the He-100D-1 for Germany at 2.0. Goes over 400 mph (643 km/h) and has three 7.7 that act like a laser. If you do play it, though, watch your engine temperature. It doesn't need to be on wep all the time because it has great climb and acceleration when level or diving. Definitely one of my favorite low tier air rb planes to fly.
@@justinsnyder9368 hehe my first tryharding plane
Yeah that thing is dumb. I was gonna try hard for KB with that plane but my internet died first game and I died to some dumb ish the second game so I was like meh.
Got that out of my system tho with the hunter f58, only plane I’ve ever actually went sweat mode with,
Yeahh bro that my favorite plane in Swedish three is super easy aim and good Guns
Finally, you have played my favorite plane Joob! I always love how the J-21A series of planes can slice through wings if a plane flies past its guns.
It's not ass against average war thunder players, that's for sure
Factual statement.
Not everyone can be god tier aim like you two
@@Sturmovik1946 It's not just about aim. It's about not being an absolute pigeon.
@@derkaiser9881 Or playing on console (Xbox player here…..)
you should fly the J22A or b (the b has 4x the 13mm cannons) they are both really fun 3.0 or 3.3 planes
It also has shitty flight performance kinda even worse to fly but the guns baby
Holy shit yes those are the most fun
Any tips on how to fly it? I always lose speed playing it
@@_kkr_ the J22?
@@_kkr_ never happened to me
It's funny how they (J21s and A21) went from 3.7 to 5.3 in AAB.
I grinded to jets in just a few days using the swedish 3.7 lineup back then.
By far the biggest problem with them imo is that their stealth belts is pure AP, so you have to use tracers.
why would u use stealth belts?
@@hammodiyourbud5199 Because tracers give away your position, heading and give the enemy more information (their color and pattern for example can let you tell which plane is attacking you from the tracers alone). They tell then from what direction they are being attacked too. Also tracers can obstruct the target in headons or what attacking ground targets. They are also much easier to dodge.
And most importantly, they tell your target that they are being attacked, even if you miss. Stealth only does that when they get hit, which is usually too late to take action.
Stealth is by far the best belt on majority of guns, the only exceptions I can remember are german Mk 103s and those swedish 13.2mms.
The classic war thunder conundrum... Epic guns so it must be a good plane😂
I really hope they dont screw with the Jap 50cals cause the Ki-67 is just too fun
For most of my games, i normally stay below 2-3000km up. the j21 actually can outrate most other planes in the two circle after the opponent has dived. With you good guns and enough experience. you also mentioned that japanese planes are the bane of your existence but if you stick head ons you can usually set them to fire killing them( they don’t have self sealing fuel). pretty much anything that isn’t a 109 (exept g6)or spitfire you’ll normally outrate opponents. anything else you just head on with your guns set to 800 and it’s free kills ( i have ground more than 2,573,527 SL with this plane ALONE. i also like to stay basically at the ground for most of the start. after you cannot see any targets you climb at about 15 degrees either to the side or back to your base. this allows you to pick off the people that try to dive for your teammates. AND FOR GOD’S SAKE PEOPLE READ THE MORE INFORMATION TAB, IT GIVES YOU INSIGHTS ON THE TYPE OF PLAYSTYLE AND ALL THE STATS
the swedish i think had a time travel machine because they have EFS and APDS in there rank 1 tanks
People often don't realize how old APDS ammunition is
The French (or atleast one French engineer) was working in the 1930 on APDS before fleeing his country and continuing his word in Britain what led to the British having 17poinder APDS as early as 1940(that's mostly for their towed At guns, the tank version didn't show up till early 1944)
The Swedish had APDS for their 37mm guns by the end of 1948
nah they just kept them along until well into post war, the apds was a 1946 or 47 mod
Honestly if you set up controls for manual engine control, set the radiators to full open and prop pitch to 75%, this plane get's a lot better.
I run 40-70 and it gets the job done
no it doesn't
@@kingghidorah8106 u quite literally cant tell someone what does and doesnt work for them. go cope somewhere else.
@@dakotabiggs9160 "go cope"
I have 20k/d on that thing, use MEC and still eat the dust unless I play like a rat or take head ons.
@@kingghidorah8106 lmaooo fair enough
I've never had the guns on these thing seize up ever, mostly due to the fact that they carry a smallish amount of ammo. Never doubted the guns though.
I will be forever mad at SAAB for not making the J23
looks like a mix between Mustang and G55
@@kingghidorah8106 basically take all the good designs of every plane and mash them into one, absolutely beautiful
And J21B
AN-M2s are relatively untouched, absolute dominators
You should play the t18b(57) as heavy fighter/ bomber interceptor it's tooo much fun.
If you play this thing, the manual engine controls are must, so your engine won't explode
Should have been called the J21MEC cause you're absolutely right😂
This warbird from my experience is just a plain 1-circle fighter. Don't take it 2-circle, it will be good first but can quickly get worse. Do anything and absolutely anything to be in a 1-circle
love watching your videos in my hospital bed
This is such a good way to describe this plane…the guns are filthy
a cool plane that i would recommend trying out is the IAR-81C, very good guns at 2.7 but with the flight performance of a 2.0 plane, another plane with good guns at low br would be the mörkö-morane
the guns got nerfed one time. they were much better until the end of 2021, just a fucking laser beam destroying everything from 1.5km. unironically did all the grind marathons with this plane.
Ta-154 is worth trying, one of my fav probs too, air spawn, joob :)
I’ve been waiting so long for this
It's been 4months, I've been gone for a while but your channel is growing, Keep it up! :D
are u planning to stream more on youtube during summer?, always love to hop into one after work
if its wings didnt rip off above walking speed it would be ALOT better. This plane mostly does well with a energy advantage since it turns well at mid-high speeds and holds energy okay. But the fact you literally cant come into a fight with more then like a level flight tier of energy (Seriously pretty sure you can fight some planes with a straight line speed higher then this things rip speed) makes it very annoying to play. Also the rip speed makes it entirely helpless against XP 50s
God did I love slapping people out of the air with this thing unless they had brain cells and didn’t take the head on and actually would try fight me
the swedish 30mms and 13.2s are prob the only guns that didnt get nerfed into the ground
The 30s were already hit with realshatter a while ago, thats why the ADEN's werent hit with realshatter as bad as the Japs did
Play the A-21 in ground battles. It’s good, 600kg bomb and CCRP for dropping it at the right moment
There was also a B variant that has a Griffin engine
But only proposed so… yeah
man this is the one swedish prop i enjoy playing, the guns are great and it turns pretty well, aside from that its not great... looks cool tho
Good guns + bad airframe works A LOT better than bad guns + good airframe.
If you want something with guns that work and amazing flight performance, fly the Ki-44
Bruh, 20mm Swedish cannons just got nerfed in dev sever. Mg151 would become the most reliable 20mm guns after the update.
Could you take out an Italian plane with the .50s that have the he shells to see how those are?
You're the first youtuber to say this plane isn't amazing
Maybe I should give Sweden another go...
Love these "lower tier" vids.
Best Dogfighter! :Clueless:
It feels really shitty that right now so many planes are all but unplayable because of a half baked "feature" that noone asked for.
I've been playing my q5 early and the realshatter change made the already awful guns even worse.
i would love to see a vid on the ta254
12.7mm solid boolet no damage kill in many shots
13.1mm literally the wrath of gods 100g of filler 90mm he shell lookin rounds
Ahh yes gaijin math
Bro do an a10 video please, love your content
I can assure u that thing is what i fear
13.2's were king, not sure about now
wisened up... weisenburg?
Joob please play b/t18b, they are probably some of the best intercepters for the br
I hate how this is getting realshatter, why do theu insist on ruining the guns 😭
just don't remind them of the swedish 20mms
imagine if they add a saab 21b, basically the j 21 but with slightly less shit engine.
guns that work :(
sad japanese sushi rolls
It's so slow the battle could end before you even got there.....
Love the video
Only plane i love in swedish tech tree is b239
I have an idea, let’s all delete war Thunder and continue on with our life like nothing ever happened. First to relapse has to grind the entire USA tech tree
Wow 3 videos i a week?
The only good things on this plane are: first turn, guns
In a week or two its just gonna be ass because the guns on the dev got realshattered today lmao
omg stop giving gaijin reasons to increase swedish battleratings and repaircosts!
Su-7 be like:
Finally
J21 was my fav plane man. the guns are insane. I used to kill f14 and mla’s with it from how op the guns are and looking back after unlocking the f4e and what not its legendary this thing if you know how to use it like REALLY good it can outturn most Japanese planes just as the hei tada
Play j7w1 pls
Mid but fun imo
BROTHER
Hi
I think calling it bad is a bit much but it ain't especially good either. Kind of mid just.
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It has 2 guns and they suck
Its mid
the plane itself doesnt suck you just dont know how to play it right
You are objectively incorrect. The plane is objectively terrible. The “you just don’t know how to play it” argument is invalid because I very clearly know how to play it as shown in this video, lmao.
didnt even realize but i was in your squadron