It's funny, riding a bike was recommended to make gay guys straight, but one of the reasons people were afraid of women riding bikes is 'cuz they thought it would make them lesbians. I guess riding a bike just makes everyone attracted to women?
in some part of the world girls are forbidden to ride bikes out of fear they will stop having sex with their husbands because... obviously women ride bikes for orgasms. that's new to me. I always thought of a bike as a healthy, affordable and environmentally friendly type of transportation for short distances, silly me!
During my 16 years as a Mexican American English teacher in Thailand I often got drunk in Pat Pong. This red light district is why I spent 5 years as a monk. Neither life style cured me. FYI I spent my time with the "gay for pay" entertainers.
Shortly after coming out, my dad suggested we go to a pro football game in order to fix me. I replied, "You want to go watch muscular men in tight pants run around on a field and tackle each other?" He suddenly realized how silly it sounded.
every male sport is extremely gay when you think about it. they all get sweaty, mostly in bright colored tight form fitting clothing that leaves not much to the imagination. chasing & handling balls, and each other. spanking each other in on or around a field while swinging phallic symbols that also make regular contact with other mens balls. wrestling each other in cages. choking up on shafts trying to get a hole in one. even nascar is gay if you go by conservative definitions -- they go fast and always turn *left* . XD
Ken Spreitzer Makes me think of that Simpson’s episode where Lisa’s helping Homer gamble on football games. She looks up football in the library’s card catalog, and the largest subsection is “homoeroticism in.”
My favorite "reparative therapist" is Dr. Charles W. Socarides, who was an "expert" on preventing or curing gayness in boys. His son is gay activist Richard Socarides. Good work, Chuck!
As a happily heterosexual guy, I'm steadily becoming really interested in this channel. Matt, I think you're serving a huge purpose in outlining the history of homosexuality through a medium that's effective in reaching huge audiences, many of whom are not gay and wouldn't normally give time to how homosexuals have previously been seen because 'it's not their thing'. I also really enjoy your presentation and delivery!
I'm a bisexual woman and this is very interesting subject matter. My boyfriend is also bisexual and is still in the closet a little because his family is very Catholic.
It genuinely never occured to me that a straight/cis person may see any of Matt's videos (outside of perhaps academic reasons). That's really interesting. What drew you to watching him, may I ask?
@@codyofathens3397 Well, I'm not who you asked but I thought I'd respond anyhow ( hope you don't mind). I am cis female btw.I think I started from the old show features and really noticed just how passionate and professional Matt is in his videos. It branched from there and now I end up Misty eyed, if not just shedding tears, over some of the injustices this community has had to endure. I've heard about these occurrences, but as you know, they're not in textbooks or really taught about. I suppose there is an angle though, because I had the privilege of growing up in Miami in the 90s so my mom had gay friends and there was never anything "scary" or "weird" about the notion of a gay man. ( Oh no! A well dressed, pleasant guy who loves his awesome apartment and Pomeranians! RUN!) LOL So maybe I'm not exactly who you wanted an answer from, but it's 2 am, I love these videos and am in a chatty mood :)
For thousands of years: “Men are the masters of art, music, and sculpting! Rembrandt, Mozart, and Michelangelo are legends and the epitome of manly achievement! Women can’t be artists because men are artistically superior!” Weird dudes in the 20th and 21st century: “If your son plays piano he’s definitely gay.”
I find it amusing that there's an gay cure organization called "North Star", because Northstar is also the name of a Marvel Comics character who is the first openly gay superhero, a member of the Canadian superhero group Alpha Flight, and later the X-Men. Coincidence?
Yeah, because looking at a load of guys exercising, with their muscles bulging out of their lycra while placing their perfectly rounded backsides onto saddles is going to help you become straight...
If I went to a "Cowboy Church" and found out that the only petting involved was horses, I'd be sorely disappointed. Given the often overlooked history of same-sex encounters among cowboys in the Wild West, they certainly chose a great tongue-in-cheek name for it.
+moonspenders Last I checked they don't just "pet" horses. They literally stroke the horses dick. There was a news-article awhile back on it, of course not many covered it because "OMG SEXUAL CONTANT DETECTED! TABOO TABOO!". So basically it's bullshit "therapy" that might actually make you a zoophile (okay not literally, but you might end up out of the closet and possibly in prison over it), or like every-other "therapy" make you more likely to try to commit suicide.
Kidding aside, that would not make me less gay, but also, I don't think it would make me have a thing for horses. I'm pretty sure it would just make me feel outclassed by the horse, or else just very aware that wasn't the thing for me. Not sure I'd mind it, necessarily, but I don't think it'd do a lot for me. He's a horse, not a human. Er, but it would probably make me really want to find a friendly guy. Dang, if that had happened when I was growing up, I wonder if it would've led to, ah, more positive experiences with friendly boys. Hmm. So, not how they think that therapy's supposed to work, huh? Why would they think that would turn you off of being gay? Er, and no, no female horses, thanks, that's just...no. I don't need to be touching that. Ew, no..(Well, I've just confirmed I'm gay again. not really a surprise by now, lol.)
It just occurred to me to wonder if the horse likes it or wants to tell those guys to leave him alone, he's into other male horses. Or female horses. -- On the other hand (ahem) he might like it. Maybe it tickles, given the size differences? I dunno, but I still think it would only make me wish some of those other cowboys might like it more with a cowboy than a horse, y'know? At least I would. (No spurs, please, haha.)
I'm a bisexual girl, at school (I study at a catholic kinda liberal school) we had a guest speaker, a "Therapist". She ran an orphanage and she said she cured gay people with "Bible therapy". After seven talks of 2 hours each I snapped and debated with her infront of the whole school for half an hour. In the end my argument of letting people live as they wish gained most acceptance and the supposed "therapist" stormed off since even the principal of the school agreed with me. I hope it is a win for the LGBT+ community.
Matt, your video was very gentle. There are some pretty horrific videos on RUclips about this "cure the gay" stuff. It is scary what people will do to each other, and how easily they justify it.
Whilst depressed in high school, I went to gay reparative therapy with an unlicensed counselor who was a Nicolosi adherent (I didn't fully realize all this until years later). I remember hearing Nicolosi's description of a prehomosexual boy and was like...woah, that is me! I was a shy, creative, effeminate child! And there must be something wrong with that. It was convincing at the time.
I was a self-confident, masculine child (although creative). I'm still traditionally masculine*, as is my bisexual husband (everyone thinks we're brothers when they first meet us), and I am gay as fuck. * I just wanted to note that I love guys who are less traditionally masculine, too. None of that "no fems" crap. I've dated a bunch and they have pretty much always been awesome boyfriend material and made very sensual, very passionate lovers!
The last time I checked, I suck at even drawing a straight line and I have no clue about playing a piano or any instrument really except for the table lyre for school.
Hey, Matt! You are delightful as always. I grew up Baptist. There was more than enough tough love, and psychologically damaging love to go around at Cavalry Baptist Church of Edwardsville IL. My mother told a story of a "laying on of hands" for a boy in our neighborhood. It meant several prayer vigils, and a sort protestant version of an exorcism. The key to a Baptist exorcism is showmanship. I was told it took place in the living room of the house of the boy's parents. He was surrounded by the pastor and deacons. It took one afternoon. I am told the ladies waited in the kitchen during it. It was performed on a Saturday, and after Sundays service there was a potluck. He had been cleaned of his sin and could be welcomed back into the flock. So, as can be seen, it's all about the potluck.
I am straight and I like your channel. It shows people what homosexual people have gone and are still going through. It's like discriminating someone for the eye color or their height or accent or skin color which so many have done because so many have done this. Simply no logic.
Matt, you do these so well and so easily, so much material that you didn't have to make any of it up, I love the way you let them talk for themselves and all the damage comes from that. I hope you airing the futility of these movements helps take the wind out of their sails eventually, their activities would indeed be a horrifying assault on any youngsters unfortunate enough to be sent along to them. Perhaps a full PBS documentary is necessary for this topic. Great public service you do here.
I dunno, those pussywillows might be gayer than you'd think at first glance.... I remember one girl in high school saying how she and her friends called this one tropical flower a "little boy plant" because it had this reddish standing part that looked like, yeah, an erection. (Or a chai pepper, lol.) There's a broad triangular leaf behind it and one draped in front, as if...well, never mind. you can figure it out. ;)
Such truth. I look at it this way as a straight woman, nothing could sway me to be attracted to the same sex. So why would it be different for someone who is gay? These practices are horrid.
I am ace both romantically and sexually and teach in a small Texas town, and I find these videos very uplifting! I know being ace is not quite the same, but we do encounter our own frustrations, often from the same people giving homosexuals grief. *WARNING* I am about to go into an ace rant! Feel free to skip to the last paragraph! *WARNING* When I was getting certified I was told that you CANNOT be single and a teacher (partly for money reasons, which is wrong on SO MANY levels). I cannot say how frustrating it is to be surrounded by that mindset that YOU HAVE TO GET MARRIED and YOU HAVE TO HAVE CHILDREN constantly like I am in the school system. I have blown the minds of my students with how I have no intention of getting married or having kids. Really...why does my worth as a person always seem to come down to my uterus?! I even had one ask if I have a sister with kids (not even considering if I had BROTHERS with kids). When I said yes, she seemed relieved and said, "Oh, so she had your kids for you!" No kiddo, she had HER kids. I don't have any kids, I have cats. Even coworkers are difficult! Other teachers tell me that it will change as I get older (I'm almost 40 for crying out loud! I think I'm good!!) or meet the right guy (as far as I can tell I am not demisexual). And I can't tell you the number of times I have been passed over for raises, time off, etc. or was given extra work because I "don't have a family to think of". Yet somehow I'm the go to person for sex questions like, "What is a vasectomy?", despite being the ART teacher!!! All I can think is because I will give them a straight, honest answer, or they are trying to find the thing what will '"shock" me. I may not like to talk about this stuff but I do think it is important. I have to tread VERY carefully since I'm in the Biblebelt but I think that they should know more than: SEX, DON'T HAVE IT!!! Seriously, I've been told to make sure none of the animal sculptures are "anatomically correct" when teaching farm kids that have just come in from castrating pigs (not a joke...sadly)! *WARNING* I'm done! *WARNING* However, I cannot imagine what it would be like to be gay in this environment. Even though these videos don't apply to me directly, I feel better see so much support for alternative sexualities and gender identities! It makes me feel not so alone standing on the outside.
I think Polk has had success in repressing her lesbian thoughts, which she probably found distressing. That’s NOT the same as becoming straight What she describes Sounds like a mindfulness exercise I learned in therapy. You can turn your mind away from distressing thoughts by focusing on objective observations about the things around you. Sounds like she used that to turn her mind away from lesbian thoughts. She’s going to need more therapy to deal with the stress of *her* therapy.
This video made me want to laugh and cry at the same time. Especially the 'poking you in the brain' part will follow me into my nightmares. At least your amazing t-shirt was very soothing
Hey Mat, I love your channel. I'm an ex-mormon here, there is an LDS friendly 501(c)(3) non-profit organization located in Salt Lake City, Utah, whose stated mission is to assist "people who want to diminish same-sex attractions and overcome homosexual behavior". They're called Evergreen International, Inc. Still sadly recovering from them.
I wish you knew and talked about how conversion therapy is also the most common program for autistics. That CT and ABA were developed by the same person, Ivar Lovaas. And actually, I think the dude you played a clip of actually said "autistic" , because autism, homosexuality, and gender non-conformity have long been associated for both legitimate and spurious reasons.
He doesn’t anymore, but my husband used to believe that being gay was a choice. I would always challenge him to make himself gay then. I said if it’s that simple then go ahead and turn yourself gay. I’m still waiting.
I'm honestly kinda surprised none of these do the 'cigarette' treatment for being gay. You know how in those old shows one of the kids would be caught smoking a cigarette then be made to smoke the whole pack, think about it.
That's sort of the principle behind the "watching gay porn while on vomit-inducing drugs" "treatment". It's aversion therapy based on the Pavlovian model of negative conditioning. Try to get the subject's brain to associate smoking a cigarette (or smoking a pole) with nausea and vomiting, instead of the endorphin release of feeding an addiction (or having sex). It's just that that much nicotine in that short of time period causes nausea on its own.
Me: Falling in love with Tom Welling while watching Smallville The Ghosts of my dead ancestors watching on pensively: This was definitely a good way to spend our afterlife.
When I came out to my mom I was attending a highly religious school. Soon after I was sent to a religious counselor at my school for a few years, who specialized in conversation therapy. It was fucking awful and messed me up in many ways.
Open a coffee house in a gentrified area a short walk from any reparative therapy office and you will be just fine! There was such an oasis in Old Town Pasadena, CA
My girlfriend was exorcised a few years ago by her aunt during a trip back to Mexico. And we live together under her mother's Christian roof. I honestly don't know what to tell her when the subject of marriage comes up. She knows her mother won't turn up and I know that once it happens, she won't treat us the same.
The title of this video made me think of a Cold Case episode, I think it was "Where the Boys Are" or something like that... Where this girl is just a tomboy and they think she might be a lesbian, so they send her to shock therapy and it ends up kinda making her a vegetable. And the friend that got her sent there mercy kills her at the end with a pillow... I think that was the first time I openly cried at the death of a gay character because it was just so real and relatable...
I just became a new fan. I think you have the ability to cross some bounderies and change some minds with your information delivered with wit and confidence. Great job! I live in LA (CA, not Louisiana) and did a lot of marching for marriage equality during the Prop 8 days. I was also at the celebration in West Hollywood when we won. I got to personally thank the attorneys who were instrumental in our victory. That was a great day. Pence and the new Moral Majority appointees scare the hell out of me now!
I'm so glad I wasn't subjected to this utter bullshit. Thing is, I'm not against one changing their sexual attractions, just in itself (not getting into the cultural baggage). But we're still in the fucking dark ages about that sort of technological (and it would have to be technological, not internal; we know this by now) access. And when we are, it won't even matter. I won't make myself gay, just bi, if anything. More to love.
Somewhere there is a boy learning to play the piano saying to themselves The girls will think I'm gay and let their guard down and I'll out do Don Juan.
There's a famous letter from a would-be patient to Freud. She wanted him to turn her son straight. Siggy had to politely tell her that she'd be wasting her time. It's unclear if he was an ally or just realistic.
There is this movie about a lesbian cheerleader that goes to one of those "Ex-gay camps" forced by her family to stop being a lesbian. It's not a brilliant movie, but is really funny and is pretty realistic about how stupid those treatments are and how being sorounded by "manlyness" or "women things", doesn't help at all XD (Tha movie is "But I'm a cheerleader")
I was beaten by both my parents as a child while my mom would read the Bible while she had me kneel on uncooked rice, then at ten years old the sent me to military school at ten. Great idea send me to a military school with hunky boys. That didn't work..I'm still gay..
I find it strange that Christianity the religion that specifically says judge not lest you be judged , yet they (some not all ) judge the most , ironic enough NO one follows the bible 100 % . If I dont follow everything in bible then who am I to judge ? 😝
Ah yes, what a lovely tree, so green and lovely, displace all my lesbian thoughts... A lovely tree to pin my girlfriend against and makeout Damit, it didn't work
It would be hilarious if it wasn't the truth. We all have a gay friend or family member by now. I don't get why anyone thinks it's a big deal at this point. I think young people today are much more together about this than we were. I was lucky. I had a gay uncle and two gay cousins. My lesbian cousin has been with the same woman for almost 40 years. When they come finally got married, they wanted a small informal affair. We convinced them to go big and helped them plan it. It was happy day for the whole family.
Talk about some bizarre, fruitless efforts! Didn't these people have anything better to do than obsess over who wants to be with whom? Life is hard enough and whoever is lucky enough to find love should love whoever they damn well please! It's such a basic human right.😯
Loved that series. My favourite line was when he came out to his aunt Jessica (played by Katherine Helmond). He explained that many famous people in history were gay and listed a few names including Plato. Katherine Helmond looked puzzled for a few seconds, then said, "Mickey Mouse's dog was gay?"
I can't handle a haircut by either male or female barber without developing an severe case of tumescence. Just imagine my being subjected to therapeutic cuddling.
I'm pretty sure the thing about people at Journey into Manhood touching themselves while naked isn't true. I know a few people who went to Journey into Manhood several times, and they were the type of Catholics who believed that touching themselves would be a mortal sin (i.e., a sin severe enough to send someone to Hell if not forgiven). However, there was an ex-gay "therapist", George Rekers, who forced his male clients to touch themselves during therapy sessions. This is the same therapist who was caught with a rentboy.
"Stare at trees and pet horses" if that was all it took, I'd have been straight from the getgo... Maybe I only did it enough to be half straight? 😁🤷♀️
Do you have any insight into Catholic Courage? They seem to have a loophole to the ex gay and reparative therapy approach by promoting chastity....hunger is ok as long as you never eat, and wings are ok just so long as you never fly. God understands if you are hungry or have wings, but if you eat or fly, then you are in mortal sin and will go to hell. How does anyone take this to heart and not go insane?
It's funny, riding a bike was recommended to make gay guys straight, but one of the reasons people were afraid of women riding bikes is 'cuz they thought it would make them lesbians. I guess riding a bike just makes everyone attracted to women?
+ToruKun1 It's the two wheels. So round ... so perky ... can't stop thinking about breasts ....
in some part of the world girls are forbidden to ride bikes out of fear they will stop having sex with their husbands because... obviously women ride bikes for orgasms. that's new to me. I always thought of a bike as a healthy, affordable and environmentally friendly type of transportation for short distances, silly me!
Can confirm - I like bike riding. I also like women.
yeah can confirm, when i was a teenager i went everywhere either by bike or by vespa and now i'm bi
@@LunaVee3435 so vespas make you bi. Now I wonder what effects submarines have.
Well of course thinking about trees won't cure a gay man. He sees a tree, thinks about wood...and you can see where this goes.
Hard wood is preferable to soft wood.
During my 16 years as a Mexican American English teacher in Thailand I often got drunk in Pat Pong. This red light district is why I spent 5 years as a monk. Neither life style cured me. FYI I spent my time with the "gay for pay" entertainers.
Shortly after coming out, my dad suggested we go to a pro football game in order to fix me. I replied, "You want to go watch muscular men in tight pants run around on a field and tackle each other?" He suddenly realized how silly it sounded.
Lol
yep, this reminded me of the episode from Queer as Folk
every male sport is extremely gay when you think about it. they all get sweaty, mostly in bright colored tight form fitting clothing that leaves not much to the imagination. chasing & handling balls, and each other. spanking each other in on or around a field while swinging phallic symbols that also make regular contact with other mens balls. wrestling each other in cages. choking up on shafts trying to get a hole in one. even nascar is gay if you go by conservative definitions -- they go fast and always turn *left* . XD
MMM FOOTBALL BUTTS
Ken Spreitzer Makes me think of that Simpson’s episode where Lisa’s helping Homer gamble on football games. She looks up football in the library’s card catalog, and the largest subsection is “homoeroticism in.”
My favorite "reparative therapist" is Dr. Charles W. Socarides, who was an "expert" on preventing or curing gayness in boys. His son is gay activist Richard Socarides. Good work, Chuck!
And he never tried to "cure" him😂
As a happily heterosexual guy, I'm steadily becoming really interested in this channel. Matt, I think you're serving a huge purpose in outlining the history of homosexuality through a medium that's effective in reaching huge audiences, many of whom are not gay and wouldn't normally give time to how homosexuals have previously been seen because 'it's not their thing'. I also really enjoy your presentation and delivery!
Hey thanks for watching! Glad you like it.
John Kelly lol just noticed I liked this comment a year ago when I thought I was straight
I'm a bisexual woman and this is very interesting subject matter. My boyfriend is also bisexual and is still in the closet a little because his family is very Catholic.
It genuinely never occured to me that a straight/cis person may see any of Matt's videos (outside of perhaps academic reasons). That's really interesting. What drew you to watching him, may I ask?
@@codyofathens3397 Well, I'm not who you asked but I thought I'd respond anyhow ( hope you don't mind). I am cis female btw.I think I started from the old show features and really noticed just how passionate and professional Matt is in his videos. It branched from there and now I end up Misty eyed, if not just shedding tears, over some of the injustices this community has had to endure.
I've heard about these occurrences, but as you know, they're not in textbooks or really taught about.
I suppose there is an angle though, because I had the privilege of growing up in Miami in the 90s so my mom had gay friends and there was never anything "scary" or "weird" about the notion of a gay man. ( Oh no! A well dressed, pleasant guy who loves his awesome apartment and Pomeranians! RUN!) LOL
So maybe I'm not exactly who you wanted an answer from, but it's 2 am, I love these videos and am in a chatty mood :)
For thousands of years: “Men are the masters of art, music, and sculpting! Rembrandt, Mozart, and Michelangelo are legends and the epitome of manly achievement! Women can’t be artists because men are artistically superior!”
Weird dudes in the 20th and 21st century: “If your son plays piano he’s definitely gay.”
"Musical" used to be a euphemism for gay, at least here in the UK.
I find it amusing that there's an gay cure organization called "North Star", because Northstar is also the name of a Marvel Comics character who is the first openly gay superhero, a member of the Canadian superhero group Alpha Flight, and later the X-Men. Coincidence?
Yeah, because looking at a load of guys exercising, with their muscles bulging out of their lycra while placing their perfectly rounded backsides onto saddles is going to help you become straight...
+Kats987124 I can't tell you how many photos of bulging cycling jerseys I looked at for this video. VERY IMPORTANT RESEARCH!
If I went to a "Cowboy Church" and found out that the only petting involved was horses, I'd be sorely disappointed.
Given the often overlooked history of same-sex encounters among cowboys in the Wild West, they certainly chose a great tongue-in-cheek name for it.
+moonspenders
Last I checked they don't just "pet" horses.
They literally stroke the horses dick. There was a news-article awhile back on it, of course not many covered it because "OMG SEXUAL CONTANT DETECTED! TABOO TABOO!".
So basically it's bullshit "therapy" that might actually make you a zoophile (okay not literally, but you might end up out of the closet and possibly in prison over it), or like every-other "therapy" make you more likely to try to commit suicide.
Kidding aside, that would not make me less gay, but also, I don't think it would make me have a thing for horses. I'm pretty sure it would just make me feel outclassed by the horse, or else just very aware that wasn't the thing for me. Not sure I'd mind it, necessarily, but I don't think it'd do a lot for me. He's a horse, not a human. Er, but it would probably make me really want to find a friendly guy. Dang, if that had happened when I was growing up, I wonder if it would've led to, ah, more positive experiences with friendly boys. Hmm. So, not how they think that therapy's supposed to work, huh? Why would they think that would turn you off of being gay? Er, and no, no female horses, thanks, that's just...no. I don't need to be touching that. Ew, no..(Well, I've just confirmed I'm gay again. not really a surprise by now, lol.)
It just occurred to me to wonder if the horse likes it or wants to tell those guys to leave him alone, he's into other male horses. Or female horses. -- On the other hand (ahem) he might like it. Maybe it tickles, given the size differences? I dunno, but I still think it would only make me wish some of those other cowboys might like it more with a cowboy than a horse, y'know? At least I would. (No spurs, please, haha.)
I'm a bisexual girl, at school (I study at a catholic kinda liberal school) we had a guest speaker, a "Therapist". She ran an orphanage and she said she cured gay people with "Bible therapy". After seven talks of 2 hours each I snapped and debated with her infront of the whole school for half an hour. In the end my argument of letting people live as they wish gained most acceptance and the supposed "therapist" stormed off since even the principal of the school agreed with me. I hope it is a win for the LGBT+ community.
The introverted piano-playing brother is the only one out of the four of us siblings to turn out straight.
If three siblings are gay, doesn't that point to a genetic factor?
Considering coming out to my dad in hopes that he'll let me pet a horse.
How’d it go?
@@robertloerwald3 didn’t happen yet
Matt, your video was very gentle. There are some pretty horrific videos on RUclips about this "cure the gay" stuff. It is scary what people will do to each other, and how easily they justify it.
How they justify it in almost all cases: religion.
“If your son shows talent that isn’t sportsball that means he’s a sissy, and sissies are gay” is basically the crux of that one guy’s argument
Sam Dragonborn Not all sissies are gay. Just look at Todd Chrisley.
Whilst depressed in high school, I went to gay reparative therapy with an unlicensed counselor who was a Nicolosi adherent (I didn't fully realize all this until years later). I remember hearing Nicolosi's description of a prehomosexual boy and was like...woah, that is me! I was a shy, creative, effeminate child! And there must be something wrong with that. It was convincing at the time.
I was a self-confident, masculine child (although creative).
I'm still traditionally masculine*, as is my bisexual husband (everyone thinks we're brothers when they first meet us), and I am gay as fuck.
* I just wanted to note that I love guys who are less traditionally masculine, too. None of that "no fems" crap. I've dated a bunch and they have pretty much always been awesome boyfriend material and made very sensual, very passionate lovers!
I'm introverted, and I used to play the piano. Maybe this guy's onto something.
The last time I checked, I suck at even drawing a straight line and I have no clue about playing a piano or any instrument really except for the table lyre for school.
+Jereco Catingub A table lyre is shaped kind of like a sexy butt so I guess that's gay-ish.
Cowboy Church of Virginia sounds like the "gayest" religious order I've ever heard of.
Hey, Matt! You are delightful as always.
I grew up Baptist. There was more than enough tough love, and psychologically damaging love to go around at Cavalry Baptist Church of Edwardsville IL.
My mother told a story of a "laying on of hands" for a boy in our neighborhood. It meant several prayer vigils, and a sort protestant version of an exorcism. The key to a Baptist exorcism is showmanship. I was told it took place in the living room of the house of the boy's parents. He was surrounded by the pastor and deacons. It took one afternoon. I am told the ladies waited in the kitchen during it. It was performed on a Saturday, and after Sundays service there was a potluck. He had been cleaned of his sin and could be welcomed back into the flock.
So, as can be seen, it's all about the potluck.
“If you want to electrocute your genitals, go nuts”.
ROFLMFAO
I am straight and I like your channel. It shows people what homosexual people have gone and are still going through. It's like discriminating someone for the eye color or their height or accent or skin color which so many have done because so many have done this. Simply no logic.
That T-shirt was the star of the show.
I know right! Can't tell if it's Ling-Ling or Pikachu though....
Matt, you do these so well and so easily, so much material that you didn't have to make any of it up, I love the way you let them talk for themselves and all the damage comes from that. I hope you airing the futility of these movements helps take the wind out of their sails eventually, their activities would indeed be a horrifying assault on any youngsters unfortunate enough to be sent along to them. Perhaps a full PBS documentary is necessary for this topic. Great public service you do here.
I look at trees all the time, am I straight now?
Not if they're dogwoods, the gayest of trees.
I dunno, those pussywillows might be gayer than you'd think at first glance....
I remember one girl in high school saying how she and her friends called this one tropical flower a "little boy plant" because it had this reddish standing part that looked like, yeah, an erection. (Or a chai pepper, lol.) There's a broad triangular leaf behind it and one draped in front, as if...well, never mind. you can figure it out. ;)
I saw a tree by accident a few years ago, now Judy and I are happily married, be careful guys don't end up like me, deforestation now!! 🤣
So, if being heterosexual means someone is straight, then does being gay mean you're curved/out of the order/bent?
Such truth. I look at it this way as a straight woman, nothing could sway me to be attracted to the same sex. So why would it be different for someone who is gay? These practices are horrid.
"If you were a woman he'd tell you just to see your husband!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I laughed way to hard.
Being hypnotized, filled with booze and sent to a brothel sound less than a medical procedure and more like a bachelore party weekend at Vegas XD
I wonder if a lot of guys went to Havelock Ellis and pretended to be Gay in order to receive that cure.
I am ace both romantically and sexually and teach in a small Texas town, and I find these videos very uplifting! I know being ace is not quite the same, but we do encounter our own frustrations, often from the same people giving homosexuals grief.
*WARNING* I am about to go into an ace rant! Feel free to skip to the last paragraph! *WARNING*
When I was getting certified I was told that you CANNOT be single and a teacher (partly for money reasons, which is wrong on SO MANY levels). I cannot say how frustrating it is to be surrounded by that mindset that YOU HAVE TO GET MARRIED and YOU HAVE TO HAVE CHILDREN constantly like I am in the school system. I have blown the minds of my students with how I have no intention of getting married or having kids. Really...why does my worth as a person always seem to come down to my uterus?! I even had one ask if I have a sister with kids (not even considering if I had BROTHERS with kids). When I said yes, she seemed relieved and said, "Oh, so she had your kids for you!" No kiddo, she had HER kids. I don't have any kids, I have cats.
Even coworkers are difficult! Other teachers tell me that it will change as I get older (I'm almost 40 for crying out loud! I think I'm good!!) or meet the right guy (as far as I can tell I am not demisexual). And I can't tell you the number of times I have been passed over for raises, time off, etc. or was given extra work because I "don't have a family to think of".
Yet somehow I'm the go to person for sex questions like, "What is a vasectomy?", despite being the ART teacher!!! All I can think is because I will give them a straight, honest answer, or they are trying to find the thing what will '"shock" me. I may not like to talk about this stuff but I do think it is important.
I have to tread VERY carefully since I'm in the Biblebelt but I think that they should know more than: SEX, DON'T HAVE IT!!! Seriously, I've been told to make sure none of the animal sculptures are "anatomically correct" when teaching farm kids that have just come in from castrating pigs (not a joke...sadly)!
*WARNING* I'm done! *WARNING*
However, I cannot imagine what it would be like to be gay in this environment. Even though these videos don't apply to me directly, I feel better see so much support for alternative sexualities and gender identities! It makes me feel not so alone standing on the outside.
Quite a fascinating video. But honestly, shirt-dog captivated me. Such cute! Wow! Much adorbs!
Haha thank you! (It's a bunny but point taken)
That "yourney into manhood" just sounds like a good time to me. Is there a version for women?
I think Polk has had success in repressing her lesbian thoughts, which she probably found distressing. That’s NOT the same as becoming straight
What she describes Sounds like a mindfulness exercise I learned in therapy. You can turn your mind away from distressing thoughts by focusing on objective observations about the things around you.
Sounds like she used that to turn her mind away from lesbian thoughts. She’s going to need more therapy to deal with the stress of *her* therapy.
This video made me want to laugh and cry at the same time. Especially the 'poking you in the brain' part will follow me into my nightmares. At least your amazing t-shirt was very soothing
The way you described that electro shock thing sounds almost exactly like a Clockwork Orange
Maybe you can do a segment on "But I'm a Cheerleader!" complete with RuPaul as the ex-gay coach. It's a hoot! Or have you already done it?
I participated in 'Journey to Manness' therapy at a Gay Resort without knowing it.
Hey Mat, I love your channel. I'm an ex-mormon here, there is an LDS friendly 501(c)(3) non-profit organization located in Salt Lake City, Utah, whose stated mission is to assist "people who want to diminish same-sex attractions and overcome homosexual behavior". They're called Evergreen International, Inc. Still sadly recovering from them.
The LDS Church sent me to the Atlanta-Sandy Springs office. I left the LDS Church not long after that. That was back in 1997.
"Journey into manhood god don't mind if I do" LMAO LOVE IT
Matt "There's just no monkey testicle big enough.
King Kong:
Matt Baume, you are my favorite!
That Richard Cohen footage looks like it would be gold in "Best of the Worst". 🤣
Clicked because Pete’s dragon is my favorite Disney movie and it’s in the thumbnail... also I love learning about gay history and culture!
Wow, I love your Kids in the Hall clip!😄 Btw, that camp, as well as the other "cures", is a f*cked up deal.😕
I wish you knew and talked about how conversion therapy is also the most common program for autistics. That CT and ABA were developed by the same person, Ivar Lovaas. And actually, I think the dude you played a clip of actually said "autistic" , because autism, homosexuality, and gender non-conformity have long been associated for both legitimate and spurious reasons.
Where can I sign up for that camping thing?!
He doesn’t anymore, but my husband used to believe that being gay was a choice. I would always challenge him to make himself gay then. I said if it’s that simple then go ahead and turn yourself gay. I’m still waiting.
Here because Fundi Fridays suggested you! Great video! Very informative
I'm honestly kinda surprised none of these do the 'cigarette' treatment for being gay. You know how in those old shows one of the kids would be caught smoking a cigarette then be made to smoke the whole pack, think about it.
That's sort of the principle behind the "watching gay porn while on vomit-inducing drugs" "treatment". It's aversion therapy based on the Pavlovian model of negative conditioning. Try to get the subject's brain to associate smoking a cigarette (or smoking a pole) with nausea and vomiting, instead of the endorphin release of feeding an addiction (or having sex). It's just that that much nicotine in that short of time period causes nausea on its own.
@@lanapowell Well that sounds fucken monstrous.
Me: Falling in love with Tom Welling while watching Smallville
The Ghosts of my dead ancestors watching on pensively: This was definitely a good way to spend our afterlife.
Ignorance and narrow mindness is the root of all evil. How very sad.
When I came out to my mom I was attending a highly religious school. Soon after I was sent to a religious counselor at my school for a few years, who specialized in conversation therapy. It was fucking awful and messed me up in many ways.
"Don't mind if I do." very nice.
Do ya think if I opened an ex-straight clinic I would get some takers? Just thinking out loud
Open a coffee house in a gentrified area a short walk from any reparative therapy office and you will be just fine! There was such an oasis in Old Town Pasadena, CA
Brilliant Video.Entertaining as usual, and so spot on. Again.Thanks Matt !I like looking at trees.
My girlfriend was exorcised a few years ago by her aunt during a trip back to Mexico. And we live together under her mother's Christian roof. I honestly don't know what to tell her when the subject of marriage comes up. She knows her mother won't turn up and I know that once it happens, she won't treat us the same.
17 years of ex-gay reparative therapy. Tried it all. I"m still same-sex attracted.
The title of this video made me think of a Cold Case episode, I think it was "Where the Boys Are" or something like that... Where this girl is just a tomboy and they think she might be a lesbian, so they send her to shock therapy and it ends up kinda making her a vegetable. And the friend that got her sent there mercy kills her at the end with a pillow... I think that was the first time I openly cried at the death of a gay character because it was just so real and relatable...
I just became a new fan. I think you have the ability to cross some bounderies and change some minds with your information delivered with wit and confidence. Great job!
I live in LA (CA, not Louisiana) and did a lot of marching for marriage equality during the Prop 8 days. I was also at the celebration in West Hollywood when we won. I got to personally thank the attorneys who were instrumental in our victory. That was a great day.
Pence and the new Moral Majority appointees scare the hell out of me now!
I just recently found your videos, I love them.
Aww yay thanks! Welcome!
I like this guy, he has good presentation, and is so cute too!
Nemitri I want to date him! I hope he likes older men.
I'm so glad I wasn't subjected to this utter bullshit. Thing is, I'm not against one changing their sexual attractions, just in itself (not getting into the cultural baggage). But we're still in the fucking dark ages about that sort of technological (and it would have to be technological, not internal; we know this by now) access. And when we are, it won't even matter. I won't make myself gay, just bi, if anything. More to love.
Somewhere there is a boy learning to play the piano saying to themselves The girls will think I'm gay and let their guard down and I'll out do Don Juan.
There's a famous letter from a would-be patient to Freud. She wanted him to turn her son straight. Siggy had to politely tell her that she'd be wasting her time.
It's unclear if he was an ally or just realistic.
"I feel straighter already" lol that was funny. They added testicals? Omg.
There is this movie about a lesbian cheerleader that goes to one of those "Ex-gay camps" forced by her family to stop being a lesbian. It's not a brilliant movie, but is really funny and is pretty realistic about how stupid those treatments are and how being sorounded by "manlyness" or "women things", doesn't help at all XD (Tha movie is "But I'm a cheerleader")
Natasha Lyonne is in that movie! i'm gonna watch that, thanks for the tip
Raos Caos That was the movie that helped me come to terms with my sexuality
I was beaten by both my parents as a child while my mom would read the Bible while she had me kneel on uncooked rice, then at ten years old the sent me to military school at ten. Great idea send me to a military school with hunky boys. That didn't work..I'm still gay..
Yikes I can't even imagine how awful that must have been. Glad you made it through all that.
Matt Baume im talking to you so yes I did..
To quote Laura bell bundy YOU CAN'T PRAY THE GAY AWAY
I find it strange that Christianity the religion that specifically says judge not lest you be judged , yet they (some not all ) judge the most , ironic enough NO one follows the bible 100 % . If I dont follow everything in bible then who am I to judge ? 😝
Ah yes, what a lovely tree, so green and lovely, displace all my lesbian thoughts...
A lovely tree to pin my girlfriend against and makeout
Damit, it didn't work
It would be hilarious if it wasn't the truth. We all have a gay friend or family member by now. I don't get why anyone thinks it's a big deal at this point. I think young people today are much more together about this than we were. I was lucky. I had a gay uncle and two gay cousins. My lesbian cousin has been with the same woman for almost 40 years. When they come finally got married, they wanted a small informal affair. We convinced them to go big and helped them plan it. It was happy day for the whole family.
I'm trans, I'm afraid to know what they did to "cure" it's scary knowing people did this to humans
Thanks for this channel 😀 as a transgender woman my straight friends are becoming more open minded.
I think the younger generation generally is more open-minded. It's not uncommon for straight guys to have a gay guy in their group of friends.
Another great video Matt!
Well, I do like horses. Don't know how that would make someone not gay though.
"Good news! After petting all of the therapy horses, your son is no longer gay. Now, they're a furry, and they're gay."
Well, I’ve always been shy, timid, introverted, imaginative, and artistic, and I’m straight, so there goes your theory, Mr. Nicolosi!
Anne Palke, making accidental eye contact with a tree in a public park *sweating heavily* she whispers to herself “....trussy...”
I love looking at trees, horses and camping so uhhh maybe I’m actually stra... yeah bullshit
I'm introverted, enjoy piano, draw and make music. Does that make me a stereotype?
WOW! Matt, you are really ,really good! Thank you!
"Ya know last time I ate an almond, I stopped liking men"
"Oh my God"
"Oh don't worry Sharon there's a special root tea for that now"
History of "gay cure". Sounds like a good idea for a book.
Talk about some bizarre, fruitless efforts! Didn't these people have anything better to do than obsess over who wants to be with whom? Life is hard enough and whoever is lucky enough to find love should love whoever they damn well please! It's such a basic human right.😯
Would've been nice to mention Dr. Charles Soccarides and his gay son.
When are you going to do a video on the first major character on a television sitcom which was Jody on SOAP (1977-1981) played by Billy Crystal?
Loved that series. My favourite line was when he came out to his aunt Jessica (played by Katherine Helmond). He explained that many famous people in history were gay and listed a few names including Plato. Katherine Helmond looked puzzled for a few seconds, then said, "Mickey Mouse's dog was gay?"
You can get rid of your gayness by touching a horse... Just make sure it's the front half.. lol
It would be great if you could level out the audio so there aren't really quiet parts followed by really loud parts.
+Bradford Neal Sorry about that! You're right, Nicolosi's levels are a bit loud. If anything deserves to be more muted, it's that guy.
I can't handle a haircut by either male or female barber without developing an severe case of tumescence. Just imagine my being subjected to therapeutic cuddling.
Should’ve put “Cures” in quotes, but yeah. This is definitely a video I can see myself showing to people to try to change their minds.
I'm pretty sure the thing about people at Journey into Manhood touching themselves while naked isn't true. I know a few people who went to Journey into Manhood several times, and they were the type of Catholics who believed that touching themselves would be a mortal sin (i.e., a sin severe enough to send someone to Hell if not forgiven).
However, there was an ex-gay "therapist", George Rekers, who forced his male clients to touch themselves during therapy sessions. This is the same therapist who was caught with a rentboy.
+joshm60 On their web site they do discuss that there might be times when they engage in "safe healing touch" - whatever the hell that means!
Great video!
If you could put a content warning for graphic depictions of torture that would be awesome
where can I go for hug therapy I think that sounds nice lol
I'm really enjoying your channel, and I approve of the Pete's Dragon snake oil sellers.
Humm, seems the years I was riding horses professionally and then teaching riding and stable management really didn’t help with my gayness, odd!
Your t shirt is everything
"Stare at trees and pet horses" if that was all it took, I'd have been straight from the getgo... Maybe I only did it enough to be half straight? 😁🤷♀️
Omg thank you for the Brain Candy reference:)
"Go nuts"
Such an important video!
Do you have any insight into Catholic Courage? They seem to have a loophole to the ex gay and reparative therapy approach by promoting chastity....hunger is ok as long as you never eat, and wings are ok just so long as you never fly. God understands if you are hungry or have wings, but if you eat or fly, then you are in mortal sin and will go to hell. How does anyone take this to heart and not go insane?
What did they think implanting a particle woild even do