Did Homosexuality Kill the Dinosaurs?

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  • Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
  • Did homosexuality kill the dinosaurs? You might think you know the answer, but consider the perspective of the weird early 90s sitcom Dinosaurs, featuring giant Jim Henson puppets that tackled timely topics like war and drugs and racial prejudice - and yes they even had an episode with a thinly veiled metaphor for homosexuality, and parents who overcome intolerance.
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  • @lostintranslation5630
    @lostintranslation5630 3 года назад +2031

    ah yes, the gay communist stoner, my favorite dinosaur

    • @LeanYeenMachine
      @LeanYeenMachine 3 года назад +49

      Reading this in Wanda’s voice makes it even better

    • @lilly6357
      @lilly6357 3 года назад +24

      Sounds like the entirety of GenZ

    • @twinkiesmaster69
      @twinkiesmaster69 3 года назад +2

      @@lilly6357 you mean Xoomers: the grifing generation

    • @proxybum8895
      @proxybum8895 3 года назад +2

      @@twinkiesmaster69 what are Xoomers never heard of that term

    • @technopoptart
      @technopoptart 3 года назад +11

      ​@@proxybum8895 basically it is what particularly salty boomers and gen-zers call anyone who criticizes them.
      some boomers are so hurt by being called a boomer that they (wrongly) assume changing a couple letters and throwing it back will probably be just as harmful to the ones who are making them feel hurt while not understanding the meaning behind the term boomer or looking up why it wouldnt work as a return insult. kinda like if you call a racist a racist and they shoot back that you are double racist for calling out their racism. there is no awareness of what is even going on

  • @basementdwellercosplay
    @basementdwellercosplay 3 года назад +3476

    'Gay Transylvanian dinosaur hunter' is going to be the description for my next DnD character!

    • @MattBaume
      @MattBaume  3 года назад +312

      OMG that's such a good character prompt.

    • @crys383
      @crys383 3 года назад +10

      It's so good!

    • @zerimaraicirtap322
      @zerimaraicirtap322 3 года назад +31

      @@MattBaume Hi, Matt! Unrelated but I enjoyed your videos about drag balls and their history/ documentaries. Would you consider doing a similar piece for Drag Kings?
      I feel that they are obscure and I would love to learn more about them

    • @SabrinaRina
      @SabrinaRina 3 года назад +4

      Please record a session and share. 😂

    • @fermintenava5911
      @fermintenava5911 3 года назад +2

      Good idea - Nopsca in general was an interesting figure and apparently worked as a spy in World War I, though his stories might also have been a little embellished.

  • @bonesgrey
    @bonesgrey 3 года назад +1388

    "The gay bar...The communist bar...The drug bar?!" lmao

    • @Vincornelis
      @Vincornelis 3 года назад +150

      A gay communist drug bar? I’d go there.

    • @Benigndepressedbear
      @Benigndepressedbear 3 года назад +43

      Sorry you're only allowed to come if you want to seize the means to produce the poppers before inhaling them

    • @sticks4632
      @sticks4632 3 года назад +14

      The millenial bar

    • @stm7810
      @stm7810 3 года назад +8

      all good things.

    • @jimmypad5501
      @jimmypad5501 3 года назад +2

      But yes?

  • @philiplawton
    @philiplawton 3 года назад +552

    "We met at the salad bar" is the new way to tell your parents when you actually met on grindr.

    • @EricaGamet
      @EricaGamet 3 года назад +19

      The use of salad in this metaphor is making me giggle.

    • @JackieMReacts
      @JackieMReacts 3 года назад +3

      @@EricaGamet and the meme!

    • @Gr95dc
      @Gr95dc 3 года назад +24

      it reminded me of "not in front of my salad!"

    • @budomk9299
      @budomk9299 3 года назад

      @@Gr95dc same 😂

    • @KyleRayner12
      @KyleRayner12 3 года назад +11

      @@EricaGamet There are some interesting possibilities in there. Consider:
      "I tossed his salad last week."
      "Yeah, I'm a fan of big mushrooms."
      "Overripe? No such thing."

  • @DCMarvelMultiverse
    @DCMarvelMultiverse 3 года назад +1074

    I saw a pro-vegetarian message when this aired. My mom saw an anti-drug special. We never figured it was a gay episode parody. I think it is just a parody of as many very special episodes as possible.

    • @RowdyBoy82
      @RowdyBoy82 3 года назад +93

      If it were an anti-drug message, that would mean the dinner where they had a mix of veggies and meats would be like saying some illegal drugs are ok some times.
      Well... I guess that checks out. Go mom!

    • @scaper8
      @scaper8 3 года назад +74

      I'd argue that it's less of a parody and more of a deconstruction (but even that's not 100% on point). Either way tye general applicability to a wider number of social "problems" makes it surprisingly modern, even if it causes the metaphor(s) to break down a bit.

    • @denisenova7494
      @denisenova7494 3 года назад +28

      This show literally has a pro-weed episode

    • @dangerkeith3000
      @dangerkeith3000 3 года назад +8

      @@denisenova7494 hahaha yeah..."A New Leaf"

    • @hyperballadbradx6486
      @hyperballadbradx6486 3 года назад +39

      Yeah it could be vegetarianism, expressing individuality, challenging accepted ideas of morality, homosexuality.
      The episode is transparently way more than just being gay

  • @TransSappho
    @TransSappho 3 года назад +784

    As a lesbian paleontologist let me just say that my dream is to name a species after my partner

  • @SeanTheOriginal
    @SeanTheOriginal 3 года назад +1951

    I was a little disappointed they didn't mention omnivores as a mirror for bisexuality, but this was the 90s so I can't expect that kind of forethought.

    • @msjkramey
      @msjkramey 3 года назад +34

      Yeah that would have been good

    • @SabrinaRina
      @SabrinaRina 3 года назад +178

      My first thought was... if you eat veggies time to time... sounds like bi.

    • @Pssybart
      @Pssybart 3 года назад +89

      Well, Spartacus already made a similiar connection back in 1960.
      Marcus Licinius Crassus:
      Do you consider the eating of oysters to be moral and the eating of snails to be immoral?
      Antoninus:
      No, master.
      Marcus Licinius Crassus:
      Of course not. It is all a matter of taste, isn't it?
      Antoninus:
      Yes, master.
      Marcus Licinius Crassus:
      And taste is not the same as appetite, and therefore not a question of morals.
      Antoninus:
      It could be argued so, master.
      Marcus Licinius Crassus:
      My robe, Antoninus. My taste includes both snails and oysters.

    • @mwva13
      @mwva13 3 года назад +52

      In the 90's the heteronormative mainstream (#patriarchy) used the word "gay" obliquely for anyone in the LGBTQ+ community (like some still do today).

    • @madamfoidart
      @madamfoidart 3 года назад +9

      Interesting points here. I wonder if the show makers thought about it to this extent. Considering it's a comedy... I'm not sure.

  • @Isrjisoneavalable
    @Isrjisoneavalable 3 года назад +1269

    When will there be a film about the gay dinosaur hunting couple climbing mountains and escaping bandits in Transalvania?!

    • @wendyheatherwood
      @wendyheatherwood 3 года назад +85

      The whole kidnapping situation is just perfect. I can picture them ready to escape.
      "Right. On the count of three. One... two... Do you hear gunshots?"
      "I hear someone screaming."
      "I recognise that screaming."
      "It sounds like you father."
      "That is definitely my father. God, I haven't heard him that angry since I was 14 and..."
      "And what?"
      "Never mind."
      "I'll ask your father about it later."
      "Please don't. He's got a gun."
      "That bad, huh? So should we still try to break out or..."
      "I think he's got this."
      (Bandit falls in front of them)
      "Shall we go out for dinner tonight or..."
      "Honestly, I could just do with a quiet night in."
      (A second bandit lands on the first)
      "I'll run you a bath."

    • @chucho_qmp
      @chucho_qmp 3 года назад +8

      @@wendyheatherwood So......... Amy Sherman-Palladino wrote this or what? haha

    • @matthewpaul6904
      @matthewpaul6904 3 года назад +3

      I dont know. But I know @diamandahagan would review it

    • @islasullivan3463
      @islasullivan3463 3 года назад +4

      Maybe sometime after someone makes a tv show about the Epic of Gilgamesh.

    • @leiajiang7877
      @leiajiang7877 3 года назад +10

      Nah it would be a comedy where the two are coming up with elaborate plans and just when they are about to succeed they get rescued.

  • @iIO_OIi
    @iIO_OIi 3 года назад +402

    "I eat vegetables from time to time".
    He's not a herbivore, he's a bivore.

    • @zebraman7703
      @zebraman7703 3 года назад +43

      You mean omnivore

    • @iIO_OIi
      @iIO_OIi 3 года назад +21

      @@zebraman7703 it was a joke... then again, omnisexual is a term some people use...

    • @zebraman7703
      @zebraman7703 3 года назад +17

      @@iIO_OIi bruh omnivore in term that describes an animal that eats plants and meat which makes it a better punchline than your made up word

    • @iIO_OIi
      @iIO_OIi 3 года назад +13

      @@zebraman7703 it was in reference to bisexual, if I had just said "omnivore" most people probably wouldn't give the comment a second thought and the joke would completely pass them by, if I say "bivore", they'll see the made up word and possibly think about it, and hopefully get the joke.

    • @zebraman7703
      @zebraman7703 3 года назад +1

      @@iIO_OIi if you know what a herbivore is you know what an omnivore is

  • @inugamidalton8270
    @inugamidalton8270 3 года назад +778

    I wonder if the swamp monster is a metaphor for intolerance and toxic masculinity, hence why it causes the son to disappear while his father can’t accept him, and also why it finds male-on-male affection gross. Only when the father dives into his own intolerance can he see the harm he’s actually done to his family, and what he needs to do to fix it.

    • @exceedcharge1
      @exceedcharge1 3 года назад +32

      That may be too deep a dive into a 90s show about dinosaur puppets, maybe father and sons love for each other being the solution to their problem is just deep enough

    • @prixe12
      @prixe12 3 года назад +51

      @@exceedcharge1 Why so scared of analysis people are allowed to interpret things in different ways.

    • @exceedcharge1
      @exceedcharge1 3 года назад +7

      prixe12
      Whybare you taking me seriously?

    • @prixe12
      @prixe12 3 года назад +15

      @@exceedcharge1 Because I can do what I want

    • @exceedcharge1
      @exceedcharge1 3 года назад +5

      prixe12
      Fair

  • @billdanbury
    @billdanbury 3 года назад +914

    1 person disliked this video... they must be herbophobic.

    • @joachimschoder
      @joachimschoder 3 года назад +57

      We are here. We are eating veggie burgers. Get used to it.

    • @billdanbury
      @billdanbury 3 года назад +20

      @Sam Bacon I'm sure it's just a phase. Maybe they haven't met a like button that suited them.

    • @rikkiwosnik8261
      @rikkiwosnik8261 3 года назад +4

      Every video has a couple of unlikes some people don't like anything,

    • @onewayticket2148
      @onewayticket2148 3 года назад +4

      Dude you made me wheeze out loud 😂😂😂

    • @lindamaemullins5151
      @lindamaemullins5151 3 года назад

      😂

  • @maple_fields
    @maple_fields 3 года назад +339

    This isn’t a culture cruise, this is a wild culture airboat ride in Florida

    • @sticks4632
      @sticks4632 3 года назад +6

      As a floridian I can say this is true.

    • @ThexDynastxQueen
      @ThexDynastxQueen 3 года назад +4

      I'm a Floridian and I approve.

  • @simsgirlgem
    @simsgirlgem 3 года назад +667

    I remember this episode as a kid I never thought about it being possibly a stand in for being gay seriously I missed a lot of stuff as a kid

    • @ah-nononoo
      @ah-nononoo 3 года назад +4

      Wym, it's about vegetarians

    • @benny_lemon5123
      @benny_lemon5123 3 года назад +7

      @@ah-nononoo """ vegetarians" """ lmao

    • @benny_lemon5123
      @benny_lemon5123 3 года назад +1

      Seriously though I was the same. Nearly * *nearly* * makes me want to give this show another go

    • @RowdyBoy82
      @RowdyBoy82 3 года назад +11

      The 90's were surprisingly brutal yet at the same time astoundingly naive.

    • @adaminflux
      @adaminflux 3 года назад +2

      I read it as gay as a kid. Lol

  • @butters796
    @butters796 3 года назад +69

    I guess a more optimistic view of "two men hugging makes the monster puke" is "destroying toxic masculinity by expressing emotions freed them".

  • @lookx5
    @lookx5 3 года назад +71

    The red scare and lavender scare reference actually made sense, in the executive order made to purge communists from the government there was a clause that basically posited that gays could be communists because their sexuality made them vulnerable to blackmail and therefor treachery. Over 500 federal employees were fired and employees were asked "are you a homosexual." Additionally, the more well-known gay rights organization, The Mattachine Society, was started by someone who had communist ties. So during that era, public perception of communism and gayness were very intertwined because they both represented a secretive "invisible" enemy.

  • @happyninja42
    @happyninja42 3 года назад +273

    Well, I mean, I guess you could say the entire dinosaur population got bottomed by a REALLY big, hard pounding from space by a really rough top?

    • @MattBaume
      @MattBaume  3 года назад +102

      This comment made me blush

    • @happyninja42
      @happyninja42 3 года назад +23

      @@MattBaume *steeples fingers like Mr. Burns* "Gooooood!" xD

    • @raywheeler607
      @raywheeler607 3 года назад +10

      Huh........never thought about it this way

    • @dipperdandy
      @dipperdandy 3 года назад +12

      @@raywheeler607 And now you will never NOT think about it this way

    • @happyninja42
      @happyninja42 3 года назад +14

      @@dipperdandy Killer Meteor: "Try and relax." Dinosaur community: "No Daddy Yamete!"

  • @emmaseckso1870
    @emmaseckso1870 3 года назад +203

    Can someone do me a favor and link the wiki for the scientist that’s referenced in the video?? When I search “gay dinosaur hunter,” all I get is dinosaur erotica.. 🤦‍♀️

    • @kellykocsis1941
      @kellykocsis1941 3 года назад +8

      Same here, scared to look what with rule 34 and all...

    • @kellykocsis1941
      @kellykocsis1941 3 года назад +38

      Okay, I decided to try to find it, here it is: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Nopcsa_von_Felső-Szilvás

    • @RowdyBoy82
      @RowdyBoy82 3 года назад +12

      So much Chuck Tingle!

    • @faiaflrt
      @faiaflrt 3 года назад +5

      Thank you Kelly!

    • @masterspark9880
      @masterspark9880 3 года назад

      I searched “gay Transylvanian dinosaur hunter” and he was the first result

  • @nathanielsizemore3946
    @nathanielsizemore3946 3 года назад +163

    Prior to President Clinton's "Don't Ask, Don't Tell, Don't Pursue" policy of the 1990s, there was a question on enlistment paperwork "Are you now, or have you ever been a practicing homosexual?" A yes answer was automatically disqualifying.

    • @MattBaume
      @MattBaume  3 года назад +91

      Since making this video I've heard from multiple people who were asked that when joining the Army! It's wild that that would even be asked. Reminds me of how, when my dad enlisted in the 1960s, they asked him point-blank if he was Jewish, and when he said yes they assigned him to an all-Jewish unit. Incredible.

    • @kittyprydekissme
      @kittyprydekissme 2 года назад +3

      Jodie was once asked that question (in a different context) on Soap. He said 'I don't have to practice. I'm good at it'.

    • @nathanielsizemore3946
      @nathanielsizemore3946 2 года назад

      @@kittyprydekissmelove it, I forgot about the show Soap.

  • @netgeekdoggirl
    @netgeekdoggirl 3 года назад +140

    Oh to be a gay dinosaur hunter

  • @elinathan8363
    @elinathan8363 3 года назад +350

    As a bisexual communist weed smoker, I must be the worst nightmare of all dinosaur parents in the early 90s

    • @yucol5661
      @yucol5661 3 года назад +9

      Did people in the 90s US still feared communism? You know since the USSR fell?

    • @elinathan8363
      @elinathan8363 3 года назад +27

      Yussef For sure man to this day any leftism is seen as a threat and is called un-American. I’d say that was the case in the 90s also

    • @bentomai5071
      @bentomai5071 3 года назад +19

      Eli Nathan
      Trust me they do still hate communism (especially in the religious south of usa)
      I often explain my political views as “basically im a communist” it has caused everything from awkward moments to just plain telling me why im wrong. 😂😂😂

    • @elinathan8363
      @elinathan8363 3 года назад +5

      @@bentomai5071 I feel youuu

    • @satya4234
      @satya4234 3 года назад +1

      Same, lol. 😂 fortunately I'm not my parent's worst nightmare.

  • @CrypticCharm
    @CrypticCharm 3 года назад +307

    i loved dinosaurs, any show that can end with everyone dying including the baby is really something else. also the story of victorian dinosaur hunters is awesome, how the hell did I not know know about this couple
    great video as always Matt

    • @MattBaume
      @MattBaume  3 года назад +81

      ABC executives were SO PISSED about that series finale

    • @cmmosher8035
      @cmmosher8035 3 года назад +32

      Oh man I was 15 and I still remember how much of a Holy Fuck ending that was. It's one of those moments where I can still feel the shock when I think about it.

    • @CeeJayThe13th
      @CeeJayThe13th 3 года назад +10

      Are we dead yet?
      No honey
      You promised!

    • @Nightman221k
      @Nightman221k 3 года назад +2

      @@MattBaume So was 7 year old me when I watched the finale on Disney channel.

    • @themimsy
      @themimsy 3 года назад +4

      wait... they all die? D:
      I watched this a bit when I was younger but never finished it as it was taken off of Netflix... That makes me really sad...

  • @veganbatman
    @veganbatman 3 года назад +93

    As a kid that chose vegetarianism at a young age in an omnivore home I completely thought this episode was exclusively about vegetarianism . I really enjoyed this show thank you for the dissect.

  • @Dorian_sapiens
    @Dorian_sapiens 3 года назад +269

    The detour into McCarthyism references makes sense. Ever since the first Red Scare came to the US about 100 years ago, anti-communism, anti-Marxism, anti-leftism in general has been an extremely useful disguise for all manner of other bigotries, because it's 100% acceptable among both conservatives and liberals in our society to be anti-leftist. It's trivially easy for reactionaries to frame any specific bigotry they hold as _actually_ an opposition to communism. For example, the struggle for Black Liberation currently playing out on the streets across the US: how often do you see right-wing propagandists describing BLM as Marxist? Struggles against the oppression of racial, sexual, and gender minorities are attributed to "the Marxist myth of ubiquitous equality," because anyone who's not a communist knows minorities are _not_ equal, so their oppression is natural and good.

    • @MattBaume
      @MattBaume  3 года назад +106

      It's true, those 1950s scares are pretty intersectional. I didn't want to go TOO much into detail because they're all so intertwined, it's easy to make that history confusing. There might be a Culture Cruise about McCarthyism and the lavender purge in the future though.

    • @Dorian_sapiens
      @Dorian_sapiens 3 года назад +29

      @@MattBaume That would be great!

    • @msjkramey
      @msjkramey 3 года назад +11

      @@MattBaume yes please!

    • @adampickard9880
      @adampickard9880 3 года назад +6

      @@MattBaume +++

    • @chubbubdreamer6904
      @chubbubdreamer6904 3 года назад +1

      @@MattBaume Man, I'd definitely love to see that.

  • @Sara3346
    @Sara3346 3 года назад +98

    This is the strangest video essay title I have seen in ages, feels like the title of a randomly generated book in dwarf fortress.

  • @barshafoxman4169
    @barshafoxman4169 3 года назад +155

    I think the male affection making the giant dinosaur vomit works quite well, in that the giant dinosaur represents the old order :)

    • @KaiserNeko
      @KaiserNeko 3 года назад +23

      Exactly! It's on message with the anti-homophobia moral of the episode.

    • @joaomarcelo742
      @joaomarcelo742 3 года назад +3

      Agreed

  • @fermintenava5911
    @fermintenava5911 3 года назад +52

    I honestly don't think the metaphor is murky, it's just not an allegory about one thing in particular.
    The communism-/drug-/hippie metaphor is just the societal framework. Conservatives always throw homosexuality into one big mush of "lefty soy latte-drinking liberalism", which in turn is embraced by a liberal counterculture as a sign of solidarity. Robbie, torn apart between the poles, then makes a speech that no one should care that much about his "feeding identity", but about his worth as an individual.

  • @Pencliff
    @Pencliff 3 года назад +72

    I watched Dinosaurs as a kid but I was still too little to properly remember it and I never knew how it ended until today, I feel a little sad now.
    This Franz guy sounds super interesting, the things you learn on the culture cruise will never cease to amaze me.

    • @MidnightFae375
      @MidnightFae375 3 года назад +3

      It ended with the world entering an Ice age caused by major climate change. It literally ended all of them together in the room talking about how they will make it but the older family members knew it wasnt true and it just faded to black. They have the ending up on youtube.

  • @er4110
    @er4110 3 года назад +51

    6:05 The only thing i notice was those pea pod earrings and thought that would be something Ms.Frizzle would wear.

    • @MattBaume
      @MattBaume  3 года назад +18

      Honestly I couldn't look away from those either. I hope they wound up with someone who got to wear them.

  • @FirstFallSnow
    @FirstFallSnow 3 года назад +44

    "there's nothing particularly gay about that fact, I just thought it was neat"

  • @leslaychandel947
    @leslaychandel947 3 года назад +131

    I'm trans woman and I've seen many depictions from the eighties, nineties an beyond of of male protagonists literally vomiting or at least gagging when they find out that attractive woman was "a man" all along. Reactions of disgust are not great. in this case though, the idea that the embodiment of toxic masculinity is defeated or overcome by men talking about their feelings, coming to an understanding and hugging each other. I don't know it might be cool. But it depends on how you interpret it.

    • @themimsy
      @themimsy 3 года назад +4

      except if you are dating someone, you should be upfront about yourself regarding your gender vs biological sex.

    • @creativedesignation7880
      @creativedesignation7880 3 года назад +4

      @@tynj4173 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxic_masculinity
      Pro tip for future reference: There are these things called search engines and also online encyclopedias, they are pretty usefull if you are unfamiliar with a particular term, you type it in and hit the "search" button :)

    • @knowyourenemies7
      @knowyourenemies7 3 года назад

      I just commented a very similar interpretation!

    • @idiotwithanopinion8082
      @idiotwithanopinion8082 2 года назад +1

      @@tynj4173 the last bit is a little transphobic. Toxic masculinity is about the idea that men don't show emotions, feelings, and can't show affection, romantic, brotherly, or paternally, towards each other.

    • @idiotwithanopinion8082
      @idiotwithanopinion8082 2 года назад +1

      @@tynj4173 first off, I thought you were saying trans woman were men dressed as woman. I agree there is nothing transphobic for those who have preferences

  • @nardo218
    @nardo218 3 года назад +30

    I was like 12 or 13 when i saw the metaphore ep, I seriously thought it was about environmentalism and vegetarianism and I was WORKED UP about the tyrrany of meat eating. So many of these shows flew over my head.

  • @dumbumbumbum8649
    @dumbumbumbum8649 3 года назад +104

    I don’t mind that ending, honestly. Seeing that the monster stands in for “bigger” in the dad’s worldview, I also kind of read him as more conservative than the dad too. While the dad is willing to soften his beliefs and, in turn, show male affection, the even more conservative monster who won’t change finds it disgusting. Feels pretty appropriate to me.

    • @yucol5661
      @yucol5661 3 года назад +6

      The dad joined an all men group to “eat meat”. Their ritual was literally “eating” another dinosaur. I’m not sure if the connotations where different in the 90s or if universal bisexuality was the social norm in their society

    • @dumbumbumbum8649
      @dumbumbumbum8649 3 года назад +4

      Yussef they were def gargling each other’s special sauce.
      There, youtube, if I phrase it like that will you not remove my comment, you fascistic censoring dick wads

  • @robertqld
    @robertqld 3 года назад +72

    Having just watched Mrs. America, and hearing 'Lavender Menance' referred multiple times via Betty Friedman, my first thought went there.

    • @naksus2
      @naksus2 3 года назад +1

      Yeah, a big oof moment there.

    • @chickennoodlesoupbaby
      @chickennoodlesoupbaby 3 года назад

      Trtrgg desert

    • @RowdyBoy82
      @RowdyBoy82 3 года назад +9

      Lavender Menace needs to be someone's drag persona.

  • @isaacm.7982
    @isaacm.7982 3 года назад +115

    I'm gay and I approve this message

  • @DanceSeek
    @DanceSeek 3 года назад +30

    12:56 End of episode not so bad to me. Two men hugging was disgusting TO A MONSTER, who was also calling it "mushy stuff", a typical kid's reference to all adult affection displays that they don't like. Doesn't seem that they're excusing homophobia, just continuing with the show's overall disapproval of anti-gay prejudice.

  • @barshafoxman4169
    @barshafoxman4169 3 года назад +86

    I had such a crush on Robbie back then :P
    And am only just realising that was kinda weird :p

    • @sinnsage
      @sinnsage 3 года назад +15

      totally get it

    • @dorindabrito3534
      @dorindabrito3534 3 года назад +16

      Same here! Robbie was my favorite part of the show. It's not weird at all.

    • @Frosting1000
      @Frosting1000 3 года назад +32

      He has cute boy energy

    • @JC-yy8iv
      @JC-yy8iv 3 года назад +11

      He’s the Bud Bundy of Dinosaurs... and yeah I had a huge crush on Bud as a kid lol...

    • @ivankocienski1
      @ivankocienski1 3 года назад +9

      nope. not weird. Robbie is definitely super cute!

  • @MagnusSkiptonLLC
    @MagnusSkiptonLLC 3 года назад +38

    I don't think it's necessarily confusing that it seems to be a metaphor for several different things. The episode is just using elements of a few marginal groups over the years, of which homosexuality is certainly one.

  • @goodguy630
    @goodguy630 3 года назад +61

    reads the title...
    "Okay... you have my attention."

  • @NimhLabs
    @NimhLabs 3 года назад +19

    The 90s is like a different dimension

    • @e.priest8937
      @e.priest8937 3 года назад +3

      Nothing compared to the 80s.

  • @Greenman47
    @Greenman47 3 года назад +19

    A friend of mine was in one of those rubber suits so I'm sending him that link.

  • @verilybitchie
    @verilybitchie 3 года назад +14

    I think the ending isn't necessarily saying that male affection is disgusting, but that male affection literally saved their lives and family. The only character grossed out by it was an enemy to be defeated.

  • @fourcatsandagarden
    @fourcatsandagarden 3 года назад +31

    I need a movie about Franz and Bajazid now tho. a Romcom, pls.

    • @FaiaHalo
      @FaiaHalo 3 года назад +3

      I was thinking the EXACT same thing!!! I want a whole movie of these two men's love story PLEASE

  • @blortmeister
    @blortmeister 3 года назад +34

    Oh man! Someone remembers Dinosaurs! And it's Matt, who proceeds to make a terrific video about an episode. Seriously, thanks Matt. Great work. BTW, want an Earl figure? I still have a couple kicking around somewhere....

  • @sirterryratchett
    @sirterryratchett 3 года назад +24

    8:40 see, if this were in the school curriculum, I'd have paid more attention.
    Great video Matt 👌

    • @MattBaume
      @MattBaume  3 года назад +11

      There are so many good stories in history, I don't know why schools make it such a slog! I hated my history class in high school so much doing homework made me cry, and then when I started finding actual interesting stuff I was furious that nobody told me it could actually be interesting.

  • @caminandoyflotando
    @caminandoyflotando 3 года назад +36

    Yes! This was one of my favorite episodes 🌿 using vegetarianism as an analogy for being gay. “He gets it from you’re side! Your uncle used to eat off the wrong side of the plate”

    • @nuclearcatbaby1131
      @nuclearcatbaby1131 3 года назад +2

      In Japan men who are feminine are called “herbivore men”

  • @C_M_R
    @C_M_R 3 года назад +20

    Me: is that Jessica Walter as the voice of Fran?
    Me: IT IS!

    • @JPoissonify
      @JPoissonify 3 года назад +6

      Same! Fran needed a drink in her hand it seems.

    • @MattBaume
      @MattBaume  3 года назад +10

      Good for her.

    • @brianblock2583
      @brianblock2583 3 года назад

      Matt Baume Her?

    • @EarthboundX
      @EarthboundX 3 года назад

      @@brianblock2583 What do you mean by her? Jessica Walter is a woman, what are you talking about?

    • @Spaceghost5446
      @Spaceghost5446 3 года назад +2

      @@EarthboundX its a reference to arrested development a show she was on

  • @Mattteus
    @Mattteus 3 года назад +9

    I enjoyed this show when it came out. It was pushing the envelope just enough that it could air during “family hour”. Maybe that’s why they muddled the gay metaphor with other things a midwestern family wouldn’t approve of?

  • @lynk8951
    @lynk8951 3 года назад +21

    If someone could now draw the comet coming straight for a dinosaur just waiting to take it, not realizing this will be the time it will be too much for him, that would be great.

  • @moguhoki
    @moguhoki 3 года назад +75

    & here I thought it was climate change brought on via capitalism.

  • @kassemir
    @kassemir 3 года назад +15

    I love this show. It's beyond bonkers.
    Like. There's one episode where Robbie is dating a girl who is rumored to be a "man eater", 'cause all of her former boyfriends have gone missing. She is also the daughter of Earl Sinclair's boss.
    Any ways. The twist at the end is that it was actually the dad eating the boyfriends, out of wanting his daughter to stay pure, I guess.
    There's also no retribution for this. It's suburbia, but cannibalism is the norm. Totally bonkers!
    They also broadcast people getting eating for fun on TV, the food in the fridge tries to revolt, there's a monster underneath the bed and he tries to eat the baby.
    Yeah. Just totally bonkers. It has some bad episodes, but a lot of good ones as well, in my opinion, and the good ones are generally speaking really good.
    I don't really see it as a Simpsons clone. I mean, there's similarities, but in a lot of ways, this show's satire was more sharp and risky, in the good episodes at least which I'll admit, the quality is a little uneven.

    • @denisenova7494
      @denisenova7494 3 года назад

      I watched this show when I was like 4-6yo and I loved it so so much!

    • @denisenova7494
      @denisenova7494 3 года назад +1

      There's an episode about masturbation (dancing), drugs, reincarnation, afterlife, wanting a boob job (bigger tail)..

    • @ce4072
      @ce4072 3 года назад +2

      The caveman pet episode was also bonkers. And almost throwing grandma into the tar pits. Everything about this show was crazy commentary but it was so good!

    • @hassanalkhalaf1115
      @hassanalkhalaf1115 2 года назад

      saying it's a Simpsons clone is like saying Star wars and lion king are clones because both Show a son struggling with his father heritage

  • @plainbagel4411
    @plainbagel4411 3 года назад +19

    Asking the REAL questions

  • @dorindabrito3534
    @dorindabrito3534 3 года назад +5

    I am soooo glade you covered this episode! 👏🏼👏🏼 One of my favorite shows with so many good episodes that speak volumes now than what they did when they first aired.

  • @peter_pansexual6243
    @peter_pansexual6243 3 года назад +20

    I woud like to take this opportunity to give you my recommendation for a pretty unknown and underrated gay love story called "les amitiés particulières" or "This Special Friendship". It tells the beautiful story of the secret love between two young french catholic school boys Alexandre and Georges.

  • @xanderguyer7512
    @xanderguyer7512 3 года назад +15

    I feel that this episode is half a parody of every very special episode, while also trying to tell parents and kids that it's okay to be....something (noncommittal)

  • @ThexDynastxQueen
    @ThexDynastxQueen 3 года назад +8

    I vaguely remember the show as I was a toddler when it aired so I saw reruns when I was slightly older that aired on Disney. So I only remember the last episode which is pretty great but clearly no one with power cared. I think the episode's multiple metaphors works enough (the drugs tho) in aiming at any differences kids and parents have.
    Henson's puppets and designs tho are some of the most amazing yet haunting things that I'm glad plagues my mind. He died before I was born and I cried when I found out. Truly a legend.

  • @nate1988
    @nate1988 3 года назад +1

    I've missed your Culture Cruise videos -- this was a great way to start the day!

  • @Andrew_Warden
    @Andrew_Warden 3 года назад +3

    I was wondering if/when you were going to cover this episode. I've been wanting to recommend it to you for months, but someone clearly beat me to it. Nicely done!

  • @Technocolor00
    @Technocolor00 3 года назад +14

    'the show gets confused if its metaphor is about homosexuality or communism' to be fair a lot of boomers and 4chan conservatives get those two things confused

    • @maybemc1498
      @maybemc1498 3 года назад +3

      THE COMMIES ARE TURNING OUR CHILDREN GAY

  • @nerotoxin0661
    @nerotoxin0661 3 года назад +5

    7:57
    help me I read the post and now I have negative brain cells

  • @christianbrown7959
    @christianbrown7959 3 года назад +3

    Thanks Matt, you have given me something to watch just in time, I just sat down to have lunch. ❤️

  • @PaulAdler11
    @PaulAdler11 3 года назад +3

    This video was so good I teared up at the end. Amazing work.

  • @augustlovesjosh
    @augustlovesjosh 3 года назад +10

    it couldve been "are you now or have you ever been a homosexual" from a clockwork orange

  • @FilmmakeroftheFuture
    @FilmmakeroftheFuture 3 года назад +1

    How very thoughtful! Thanks for the cruise! 🚢

  • @briannahawkins7561
    @briannahawkins7561 3 года назад +1

    I’m pretty sure this the fastest I’ve ever subscribed... EVER!! So excited for where I end up, from this point on!

    • @MattBaume
      @MattBaume  3 года назад +1

      Aww yay welcome aboard!!!

  • @GorillaGamingo011
    @GorillaGamingo011 3 года назад +28

    "oh god I hope this is a joke video and not some conservative being homophobic and making crazy accusations" *watched video* oh it's gay film theory, sweet!

  • @kb-tq2qo
    @kb-tq2qo 3 года назад +3

    great episode. Love your work :)

  • @Kuhmuhnistische_Partei
    @Kuhmuhnistische_Partei 3 года назад +17

    "It was about homsexuality at first, now it's about communism". Well, sounds like my life. Maybe I should do drugs now.

  • @Nada07able
    @Nada07able 3 года назад +6

    My show! Had the toys, too. I remember this episode.

    • @moonbook12
      @moonbook12 3 года назад

      I watch without having the toys

    • @Nada07able
      @Nada07able 3 года назад

      @@moonbook12 The only toys the show had were given in McDonald's happy meals.

  • @jdprettynails
    @jdprettynails 3 года назад +5

    "Meat AND vegetables."
    Robbie Sinclaire, a bi icon

  • @sinnsage
    @sinnsage 3 года назад +4

    i LOVE IT!!! i watched the shit out of this show when i was a kid. and i will always love jim henson. tackling the issues that still plague us to this day. thank you!

  • @superjoeyman1
    @superjoeyman1 3 года назад

    every once in a while i rediscover this channel and i fall in love with your content again

  • @mysticblue0222
    @mysticblue0222 3 года назад +1

    I’ve missed you dear. I love your content. I hope to contribute to patron when my finances stabilize take care

  • @joebernes106
    @joebernes106 3 года назад +10

    I used to watch this show in Spanish, "No La Mama!"

    • @ilovemuslimfood666
      @ilovemuslimfood666 3 года назад

      Wait, what? 😶

    • @carloraggi
      @carloraggi 3 года назад +1

      @@ilovemuslimfood666 Baby Sinclair used to utter “Not the Momma!”, while battering Earl with a frying pan. In the Latin American spanish dubbing that was translated as “¡No la mamá!”: ruclips.net/video/ghLdS1OEuvA/видео.html I remember that line was the most popular catchphrase of the show in Mexico.

  • @thesexybatman263
    @thesexybatman263 3 года назад +3

    "The chemicals in the meteorites are turning the dinosaurs gay!"
    -Alex Jones, probably.

  • @tombocai
    @tombocai 3 года назад

    Your videos, your research, all the reflections, assessments and insights you make are always very interesting. I particularly enjoyed all of the bits and pieces you put together in this one.

  • @ivankocienski1
    @ivankocienski1 3 года назад +9

    The episode "A new Leaf" where Robbie and Earl do a choreographed dance number is one that sticks in my mind. Its funny when, every few years, this show is bought up and (somewhat surprising to me, at least) a number of people point out how much of a crush they had of robbie! i thought i was the only one.
    found it! ruclips.net/video/ka2vE4zZk7w/видео.html

    • @MattBaume
      @MattBaume  3 года назад +1

      Oh my God I forgot about the musical number

  • @hannahcostanzo7488
    @hannahcostanzo7488 3 года назад +9

    This is absolutely bonkers but the costumes are actually amazing

    • @JamesChessman
      @JamesChessman 3 года назад

      Yeah cool costumes but from what I remember, most episodes were not meaningful or funny or anything lol

  • @flamingcherry
    @flamingcherry 3 года назад +4

    I never thought this episode was about homosexuality. I did think they didn't want their son to become a vegetarian, which just made sense to me with the hippie aspect. Interesting how people interpret the same thing so differently. Neat!

    • @staralioflundnv
      @staralioflundnv 2 года назад

      A YEAR later, I am watching this and thinking the same thing, as I watched this with my kids and we so enjoyed the entire series and laughed and joked with each other over it constantly in our home. I'm 67 now, a Teacher, and Matt's videos have completely shifted my CONSCIOUSNESS about the "Gay" Community. For my entire life, I've been a God & Bible believing Christian as well as a staunch believer and upholder of the US Constitution and Bill of Rights. For so many years, with much conflict for me with my Christian/Bible beliefs, US Constitutional Rights vs how I held and internalized what to do about those who are identified as "Gay" in the World. Matt has helped me be accepting of HUMAN & US Constitutional Rights for Gays as well. What I object most is the bizzare and very in your face publicly by many Gays. That is very putting off and offensive to many and does not help their cause.

  • @justlurkingat8
    @justlurkingat8 3 года назад

    I don't know how, I don't know why this was recommended to me now but boy am I subscribed! Great work!!

  • @wyattunrue5354
    @wyattunrue5354 3 года назад +2

    I’ve never seen/heard of this channel before. Found this vid in my recommended.
    I was expecting a very, very different video

  • @darlantro
    @darlantro 3 года назад +5

    I grew up in the 80s/90s in Midwest USA and had friends who were vegetarians for moral reasons, much to their parent's chagrin. Vegetarianism made them an embarrassment to their parents, the black sheep of the family, meaning this episode's plot is literal and not a metaphor in that case. More generally this episode seems to be about not being afraid to challenge tradition or question the norm, if you have strongly held beliefs to the contrary, even though you might upset people you care about.

  • @kropotkinnie
    @kropotkinnie 3 года назад +6

    it's actually sort of cool to see old shows like this with representation. i can imagine being a kid back then and really seeing myself in this, and feeling actually acknowledged. heck, even growing up in the 2000's i barely had that.

    • @gensai93
      @gensai93 3 года назад +2

      The Golden Girls was pretty good about it.

  • @benny_lemon5123
    @benny_lemon5123 3 года назад +2

    Ah, I was so young back then. Back in the glory days of *The Specialest Episode Ever* , truly a walk down memorylane for us up-and-coming dinosaurs

  • @CosplayCore
    @CosplayCore 3 года назад +1

    Is this a series? I would love to hear discussion on many of the other episodes because this was good! This is my favorite sitcom and the fact that the material in it can provide us with diving board topics to think about like this is what really attracts me to the show. However, I have watched every episode of it lots of times already so the perspectives of others on the episodes, like this video, are what I would like to watch/hear more of now.

    • @CosplayCore
      @CosplayCore 3 года назад +1

      I’m also just drawn to it because they’re anthropomorphized dinosaurs but that’s beside the point! 🤣

  • @faolair3320
    @faolair3320 3 года назад +5

    That title is a masterpiece
    What are we supposed to do? Not click on it?

  • @drustanastrophel9538
    @drustanastrophel9538 3 года назад +7

    wonder if the birds at that bar like their salads... tossed B)

  • @boricuauvp
    @boricuauvp 3 года назад

    Dude! I love your stuff! What a great concept.

  • @sadpacman3290
    @sadpacman3290 3 года назад +2

    "knowledge of JIm Henson trivia" And now you have my attention.

  • @Eban11235
    @Eban11235 3 года назад +4

    Man I forgot how good the animatronics was on this show.

  • @MidoriNatsume
    @MidoriNatsume 3 года назад +3

    The last part about the "Male affection looks disgusting" is from the point of view of the villain, so technically it's implied that it's a bad behaviour.

  • @bigjake360t
    @bigjake360t 3 года назад

    First time watching this canal, and I have got to say that I love the neckerchief.

  • @nathanielpranger7370
    @nathanielpranger7370 3 года назад +1

    This episode is a riot. Also gotta love the Bob Dylan dinosaur playing in 'The Salad Bar'.

  • @liam1558
    @liam1558 3 года назад +4

    the title scared me and i thought some crazy homophobe was gonna scream about how homosexuality killed the dinos. but then i realized it was you and it's fine.

  • @sarahwarnock2707
    @sarahwarnock2707 3 года назад +3

    Wow giving me flashbacks w this ep! I had a plushie of the baby that spoke (not the mama & I'm the baby, gotta love me) soo obnoxious! I also had a hug crush on Robbie... I wasn't the only one right?

    • @MattBaume
      @MattBaume  3 года назад +4

      Lol I am delighted by how many people are confessing to having a crush on him!!! I did too.

  • @fabianhebestreit3240
    @fabianhebestreit3240 3 года назад +1

    I’ve been asking for this episode for months. Now I can die happy, in fifteen minutes.

  • @orangeprincess1987
    @orangeprincess1987 2 года назад

    Can I just say all of your videos are EXCELLENT?

  • @calboy2
    @calboy2 3 года назад +23

    Please be accepting of us omnivores

  • @mundoenfermoytriste7489
    @mundoenfermoytriste7489 3 года назад +3

    To me the ending was meant to represent that showing afection and love can free you.
    It could've been done better. I guess.

  • @zigmenthotep
    @zigmenthotep 3 года назад +1

    This video was a wild ride from beginning to end.

  • @gozerthegozarian9500
    @gozerthegozarian9500 3 года назад +2

    "Initiation at the YMCA made quite the meateater of me..." OMFG, they put this line in a kid's show, I am HOLLERING!