Don't Buy Another Plugin Before Watching This
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I wholeheartedly agree. I’ve been on this audio journey for decades and found the same thing. I’ll go a step further, most DAW stock plugins today will do 85-90% of what you need.
Amen
Very very true. Ableton and Logic have awesome plugins. The two DAWS I use.
I swear there is literally no reason to buy a plug-in for reaper .
yeah i realized when i buy a plugin i'm just paying for a new skin
I'm a new musician myself. So Ableton, Logic and Reaper are good DAWs to use?
My advice: DOWNLOAD AND TRY THE DEMO. Compulsive tendencies happen over a super sale / cheap price. Trying the demo will cool your wheels and lead to a smarter buying decision.
From Russia with love !
that's why I love Soundtoys
Barry you are absolutely spot on.
Here’s the irony. I heard another RUclipsr giving the exact same advice 5 years ago. Did I listen?? Did I heck 😅
I have learned that now for sure!
Fully do agree. Good songwriting and arrangement will give you 90% of a good song. 6-7 plugins will do the job.
Love the authenticity of the out-takes at 15:20 - ish to end, lol.
Absolutely true, spend time mastering ur craft
It’s all a mindset thing… companies will put your mind in a frenzy to make you feel you need what you already have.
Let me just say thank you for saying this. Too many people and companies have gotten so far out of hand, it's ridiculous. And thank you for addressing elephants in the room in many of your videos. It's not always easy to publicly say what needs to be said. You're from the heart, honest, and NOT trying to sell something.
I definitely agree 👍 💯 on everything Barry said ..
Fabfilter and oeeksound are absolute must have
What kills me are consumers on forums complaining about mistakenly double buying plug ins. They then blame the company some how and never stop to think that maybe they are buying way too many plug-ins , if you don’t even remember that you already have one.
I just bought CLA underwear 😂 , Dam he’s a good salesman, and thanks for your content Barry
Very true, we need to cover that issue a lot more often
I realized that having your really good recording chain is the key to a song sounding like a record. The problem with plugins is that we record straight to the interface and then we try to emulate a signal chain with plugins in a mix. Spend more time getting better at recording.
That might be true, but that doesnt help if you have to mix stuff you did not record yourself, which at least in my case is around 95% of what I have to do.
Thanks again, Barry!
Completely agree... beyond the stock daw plugs, I use any about 3 must-have plugs.
Thanks for this realistic analysis, you are 100% right....
Limitation is one key to creativity...
I am thankful for the work of Paul Third in this respect. His analysis of Waves plugins-and that company’s predilection for releasing new plugins based upon the features and EQ curves from their previous releases-has helped me curb my impulses for acquiring new titles.
Your videos offer even more practical advice in this regard. Thank you.
He's a good lad that fella
Lol.. helllooo
It's also nice to have plugin clones of stuff we can't affoard, like à Fairchild ou a pulltec...And once you go down that road It's a never ending tunnel.
Thanks for this video. As a beginner, the plug in market is incredibly deceptive. I appreciate your insight 😊
This guy is totally correct in what he's saying.
Absolutely love you Barry. You are speaking so much truth in this video. When I started my journey I initially thought I needed a lot of plugins and of course waves was it until I learned better. I did waste a few dollars but not too much as I quickly noticed the game. I only have a few plugins, none by waves as your stock plugins are better than ANYTHING by them. Thank you for calling out these famous mix engineers as they should be ashamed for prostituting themselves and taking advantage of people's lack of knowledge. I have no respect for them for those that do it. Everything you said in this video is correct. Me personally, my plugin list is a two channel strips from BWX, one two from soft tube and a few from Fabfilter and called it good. Keep up the good work.
I usually leave videos early, but your bloopers at the end were hilarious 😂
Thank you Barry for always telling us the hard truth.
Such an amazingly beautiful soul you are sensei! I don’t know, where’s these tears are coming from! Stay well, and stay safe, I’d happily sacrifice my 20 years of life time for you. Godspeed!❤❤❤❤
I decided "I love you" and subscribed...
(Great personality, great delivery, insightful commentary and lots of interesting topics in your video list...)
100% agree! I do love waves plug-ins but I literally use the same ones on every mix. Mainly to learn them in and out. No need for all the other ones. A few plug-in alliance and one or two izotope plugins. The secret sauce is in learning the product. It’s the same rule in the studio with hardware.
All i can say as a beginner “thank you very much”
....but I LOVE the Waves Echocat!
I'm glad you pointed out this issue with selling your name on plugins
I'm older. I look for free plug-ins to get that inspirational fix. A new compressor, EQ, reverb is usually moot in capabilities.
The only stuff worth it is noise reduction and the like. There's a plug-in called Sooth that takes a lot of harshness out of a track. Stuff like that is worth it.
Everything else seems to have a free version.
I swear , with the stock plug-in that come with your DAW , Melda Productions Free Pack and a couple of more free plug-ins YOU ARE SET FOR LIFE
They’ll suffice
100% agree with all this. Luckily I learned this lesson early on after spending a fortune on hardware outboard gear.
God save us all... Thank you🙏
Great video. Fortunately I'm using Harrison Mixbus 32Cv9 as my mixing DAW. The eq, compressor, gate is in my channel strip on each track as default. I like the simplicity.
I need to watch this video before I think about buying another plugin.
This video should have a double-Like button.
So true. Oh gosh been there done that. It’s addictive. I’m just a serious hobbyist using Cubase Pro 12 and did a short experiment. I remixed a song with only stock plugins. Asked several of my friends to listen to it and compare it with the version on which I used Plugin Alliance, Waves, NI plugins, etc. Almost none of them could really hear a difference. That was a trigger for me. From now on, my discretionary $$$ will go to courses and training, or simply to more fun stuff with my significant other. That will have a bigger impact, both for my music and my life in general. Thanks Barry for all you publish on your site.
That’s exactly my MOJO
Very true. I always get asked about how I get such a deep and punchy sound on my drums. I tell my buddies and the people I teach “ logics overdrive plugin, logics bitcrusher plug-in, and oh I forgot. Logics eqs and compressor. “ lol that’s all you need.
Good wisdom there Barry
Wise words. Thank you
Good video. I used to stockpile plug ins and be overwhelmed with choice. Now I just use stock plug ins and get on with finishing tracks.
I agree, wholeheartedly. And don’t forget that many plugs included with DAWs are great, too. I can easily make a great mix with the stuff included with Cubase.
You could make a video about how to turn knobs and I’ll still watch it with joy. Congratulations man love your studio talk…
I updated my komplete 13 but apart from that I’ve not bought any other.it’s work in progress great video Barry 👍👍
You are soooooooooooooooo right ! I'm chompin at the bit to get my Chris Lord-Alge , endorsed toilet paper.
Cool Video!
I threw away my Computer and bought a fourtrack.... Best decision in my life as a (home) recording enthusiast.
I got bucks for vacation and stuff now! Can u imagine?!?
Absolutely correct ✌️
Haven’t even finished watching the video, subscribed at 3.06. This is wisdom, pure untainted integrity there! Sensei, stay well!
Great talk Barry! I find my acquisition motivation for *anything* is inversely proportional to how much I am using what I already have...
Absolutely true 😂 I’m guilty 🤦🏻♂️
Completely agree... I basically use 2 plugins in addition to the stock plugs in nuendo.
I need 15 plug-ins for every chord the song has. This is what companies have told me I need :D
Thanks for this great one Barry ! one from me and my ophthalmologist... don't rub your eyes at all ; this is the worst thing you can do to them...😊
😁
So true!!!! I have conditioned my self to delete the emails I get regarding new software
So glad I came upon this video. Was thinking about buying another plug-in that intrigued me, but I kept thinking I already have a bunch of great plugins that already cover this. Yes, there was a new angle to it, so I almost pulled the trigger. Your video was exactly what I needed to see. Don’t need that plug-in.
Pretty much spot on !
Great Ending!
I'm guilty of this at times but not too bad about it. One major thing I changed in my buying process was going to Slate. I was not a Slate fan in the beginning. I am now an All Access sub and also own Trigger 2 and SSD5. Most of my other processing options now rarely get used. I'm not a subscription fan but the value and options I now have are really great. Trying out different configurations is now super easy and I've learned more new tricks now that I am a Slate user. I now use a select few from Waves and combine them with the Slate stuff. My workflow has sped up and my processing templates are more streamlined and productive now.
You're so right, Barry!! Great video.
Still lovin' on you Barry. I'm still subscribing to Plugin-Alliance and like you said, they actually help you buy the plugins you actually want. I was able to get the SSL essential pack last Xmas and that was a steal. I have the 9099 channel and a few other plugs from P/A that have become valuable in my mixing. I use those along side the native plugins from my 2 DAWs I own. Great advise and great video. Now, I'll update my Nomad stuff and use those on my inputs.......
Love it. FACTS!
This is really sound musical/educational/financial advice, I imagine it really helps a lot of people, thanks Barry
Agreed about Softube plugins. Totally worth it.
I totally agree with you, use what you already have and save your money.
i never bought plugins impulsively and has this mentality to use whatever I have to the fullest before even looking out for something else and this mindset had helped me a lot in my music journey, also one of my song went on tv and radio which was created on mobile phone using bandlab and fl mobile which also made it really clear to me that its not the gear its the person behind the gear.
Now I use reaper and bunch of free plugins (From analog obsessions, tokyo dawn records, native instruments, and more) to make the music, also I have few paid plugins for particular uses but that's pretty much it!
Well said. “Un-plug”. Motto for the day… until the next Waves release. 😁
Congrats, man. 20K subscribers is right around the corner.
I liked the video just for the BTS 😂.. I totally agree with this. It's the deception that you are a better producer/mixer because you have the most plugins
Your not wrong! Chasin the high😂
This is absolutely true!
When I first got into photography, I was overwhelmed with all the different camera types, lenses, filters, raw processors, etc., etc. There is no end to the number of gizmos and gadgets that exits in the photography world--all promising to magically make you into the next _Ansel Adams_ or _Annie Leibovitz._ It wasn't till I purchased a fully manual camera (Mamiya RZ67) and only two fixed lenses that my photography began to improve. I wish I had 5¢ on the dollar for all that other sh!t cluttering my space.
So I've decided to do the same with my _"ear photography"_ and UAD plugins. I'm intentionally limiting myself to the Neve 1084 pre, the C-Vox, and the Neve 2254 compressor/limiter. Is this the best stack for every possible use? Obviously not. But it's good enough for my current state of understanding and my ability to hear sound. It has taken me years to _see_ good photography, and I suspect it will take me some time to _hear_ good audio. Having *too many* options is a confusing and time-wasting endeavor.
You made my day on this video. I need to watch more. Please tell me more on best plugin manufactures other than universal plugins...
Spot on Barry. Last month I just shed 9 plugins I don't use anymore . I'm down to my SSL Channel Strip, Ozone 9, some great synths, Addictive Drums/Keys, and some good Guitar VST's and select effects like Blu-cat, built in Studio One, MS20 filter and several others.
Hello Barry!
Well, at the end if your video I can’t say whether I love or hate you. But you sure knocked Waves Plugins.
As for “new” plugins every week, besides Waves I get at least TWO emails a day from Waves, Antares, Softube, Plugin Alliance, Spitfire, Izotope at al.
So it’s not just Waves. It’s also funny that all their “special sales” are ending soon - since December last year!
One thing I whole heartedly believe in is that your DAW has all you need if you are just getting started. Growing your talent comes first. Then comes adding equipment that can boost your productivity. And I agree that you should shy away from the guys or gals on You Tube who say, “ You wanna be just like me? Then this is what you need.”
Today was the first time I came across your channel. I clicked on “About” and all it said was you have “merch” for sale. So what is Barry all about?
Cheers and best to you,
Gianni ❤
Thank you for the video. I have been a business man for most of my life and have decided to get into the music recording environment. I must say that I am thankful that my business experience is keeping me from the desire to buy everything and then to be the master of none! You really hit the nail on the head when you stated that you need to master what you have and then wisely choose your next product. Really it appears to me that this might be one of the many reasons that people in this business get discouraged. There is just sooo much toys in this field to distract you. Don’t get me wrong - some are really good, but as you said, you get what you paid for. You gave good advise!
I agree. I dont buy much. Specific tools, for very specific needs. I try to get very good tools and learn them inside out in the first place. Ive started investing more in education now.
So very true.
Lately! I have had more fun with my old 4 track cassette recorder. Limitations lead you to creativity. I have a old Mac laptop strictly for digital transfer so friends can listen on their little Bluetooth speakers.
I hear U. I am one that like the Plug-in's I have and do not need an upgrade .. Love the one's I have and they are still great. Keep trucken Berry.
This channel is the best. Kudos.
I literally talked myself out of plug-ins this morning with this exact logic.
i quit buying plugins 2 years ago instead i buy diffrent daws that got diffrent plugins ableton cubase bitwig have all defult plugins i ever need, love your point in your video.
Barry, 100 percent agree. I started down that road and have already come to the conclusion you are talking about. I pretty much use a few Softube, a few Plug-in Alliance along with primarily UAD Spark and that is way more than I need. Oh and I also find myself reaching for the Logic Channel EQ. That said, when you make up your mind to stop buying the next new thing, it becomes easier and easier to resist those emails and ads.
Took me a while, but I landed where you are on this.
It's much easier on the pocket book and my wellbeing, no more acquisition anxiety.
I bought the Audeze MM-500 to go with my monitor headphone amp. Game changer. I just use stock plugins and get what I want from there
CLA Vocals is heavenly
Thanks really needed this. Think I'm going to just leave it at the spark subscription
I see the same thing with software engineering; people add so many plugins to their workflow that it actually slows them down. When offered a clean workflow with say 5 key plugins they are shocked by what they have done to themselves.
I don’t like subscription schemes for software, but … I agree that Plugin Alliance’s sales model is a good one. If it has to be subscription, then their version is a strategy I can accept.
This is a great editorial Barry, thank you. I've added fewer plugins in recent years, mainly filling a few holes. E.g. I finally bought my first tape simulator - Softube tape - on deep discount. I favor newer plugs like Soothe2 that do not try to emulate legacy hardware. And generally I favor utility over flavor. E.g. FabFilter is my go-to collection when mixing; I insert a few flavor plugins when specifically needed. Taking inventory of one's collection and actively managing is sound advice.
I will say, I've seen that Softube tape demo and holy cow, is it better than anything else I've seen out there. But, I will wait for it to go on sale again before I buy it. It is one of the plugins I really do want. I have the Slate one, I have one or two of the Waves ones, but nothing sounds like Softube. I also use their saturation knob on vocals, it just sounds killer. Softube has nailed saturation.
Thanks Barry.you nailed this subject.
Chris’s waves plugins are really dope some might be considered outdated but I still find use for them.
Barry... Well done!
Hi Barry,
About that GUI thing, I've been saying this for years.
Look at those tape machine GUIs, they look GREAT !
Add a few lines of code to emulate tape distiotion and hiss, and BINGO !
Combine that with the ad hype "....meticulously modeled in software...."
Yeah, right. Hiss. There's an accomplishment.
And about those ":superstar" engineers.................
PLEASE.
Most of these guys happened to be handling tape or hanging mics when 'The Who" walked in, they cut a million seller album and now you're some magical mystical knob twiddler that has 'the touch', etc. and you managed to 'parlay' that experience into a career.
Bill P.
Thx for the reminder :)
I've built what I have based on what I could get at the time. The only thing that has improved is my understanding. The tools are what they are.
You’re so right ~ great video ~ thank you ~ plug-in addiction is pointless 😂….. and bloody expensive!
You speak the truth & I admire your honesty
I actually did invest in total max3.5 by ik multimedia I bought it for the keyboardsounds and the roomcorection software, but actually haven't used both that much (sampletank loades slow as hell). Luckily their T-Racks 5 Suite and Mixox was excellent enough to nothave regret it. Also through a giveaway I have got NLS from Waves which is one of the only plugins where I can say it's worth buying. I still can't get the factunder my head that they try to pitch Magma Tube to everybody while NLS is so much better.
The only thing that interests me now in plugins is:
1. is it a reverb
2. does it run more efficient and faster than what I have
3. is it easy enough to use and versatile enough
And since no plugin yet hasfullfilled these criteria, I won't buy any until then.