Gear Prices Have Plummeted

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  • Опубликовано: 22 ноя 2024

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  • @jorisboulet8137
    @jorisboulet8137 2 месяца назад +234

    Prices are droping from "real expensive" to" expensive"

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  2 месяца назад +31

      Well there is that.

    • @scramblesthedeathdealer
      @scramblesthedeathdealer 2 месяца назад +7

      💯😂

    • @kvmoore1
      @kvmoore1 2 месяца назад +5

      Haha, Yeah. EXACTLY!!!

    • @GdpJapan
      @GdpJapan 2 месяца назад +3

      You freaking nailed it. Respect.

    • @Michel-r6m
      @Michel-r6m 2 месяца назад +7

      In the synthesizer (sample based aka rompler) world it is seriously affordable nowadays. Between $800-2000 many really nice options (Korg,Roland,Yamaha).
      The bread & butter synthesizer never has been as affordable.

  • @KenTeel
    @KenTeel 2 месяца назад +138

    The decline in prices, is all about the decimation of making money by making music. For most musicians, the idea of making money, doing what they like, has been largely destroyed.

    • @soarornor
      @soarornor 2 месяца назад +31

      Also, it’s that younger people aren’t attracted to music making as it once had been. There is no Beatles moment for them. Most of them would rather play video games then play or listen to music. Also they’ve been more exposed to the horror stories of bands being screwed by the business, watching the levels of income getting smaller and smaller for everyone, and music not having the extreme cultural impact that it once had. It’s a much smaller crowd now that cares about music passionately.

    • @KenTeel
      @KenTeel 2 месяца назад +13

      @@soarornor Everything that you said is a result of more options for entertainment, for society (now a days), in general, but particularly for young people. Music was only as large as it was, because there were much fewer options for entertainment, for young people. No internet, no cable TV, no videos. Only local radio and TV stations, hobbies, and print media. Music became huge because there weren't the alternatives for entertainment, like today. Add in a giant amount of bored young people, and you've got conditions ripe for the rise of the popularity of music. Technology, and it's development, enabled music to be big back then, and the advancement of technology took that away. Technology drives the whole damned thing.

    • @soarornor
      @soarornor 2 месяца назад +11

      @@KenTeel Technology made it so that anyone could participate and record. No longer had to get on your knees to a record company or try to scrap up the money. Everything was so different back in the transistor radio days. Listening was like going to a party in your mind. It was beautiful. I think the lack of unlimited entertainment options was actually good thing. Not so many hooks to distract people. Also, more common experiences. I don’t know. I just don’t see the current generations as having the interest in music and the art of the album as a thing anymore. Everyone, from music equipment retailers, to record shops to radio do not have the major buzz anymore. The last time I visited my somewhat local Guitar Center, I as jus amazed at how degraded it had become. To me it just screamed “lack of interest.”

    • @torocruz1192
      @torocruz1192 2 месяца назад +1

      @@soarornorLol ok boomer

    • @KenTeel
      @KenTeel 2 месяца назад +2

      @@soarornor Yep, lack of interest. Technology moved on, and so did people's interests.

  • @subtractivemusic
    @subtractivemusic 2 месяца назад +33

    Hey Barry, interesting points here. I actually chose this time to start a new business, because I am a believer in cash flow, income, and profit, more than I am saving, especially in volatile inflation periods. For the past two years I've been DJing regularly for additional money, but I'm tired of that, so I decided to start a studio business for mixing and mastering. I was able to outfit my studio with nearly all used or refurbished gear, and anything that was purchased new was done so when there's a big sale or price drop. I think if you are the kind of person with a solid marketing plan, a sound business idea, and a bit of experience to back it up, now is the time to start a side business to supplement income.

    • @PetParadiseVB
      @PetParadiseVB 2 месяца назад +4

      I run a pet store. And let me tell you… you can get incredible equipment and animals right now for nothing lol. I am stocking up on so much stuff and finding the right place for it.
      These times are for sure my favorite for many reasons.

  • @luckyrocks1
    @luckyrocks1 2 месяца назад +16

    I never list anything on Reverb with "Make an Offer" option for at least 30 days after listing. That way any non-serious buyers will message you to ask if you would take $$$-amount. And after 30 days I will start to slowly drop the price. I've also found that sometimes, it's just not the right time. After dropping my asking price with no buyers I will take it off the market and then re-list several months later and get a higher selling price than my old lowest price listing. If you don't have to sell now, then you can simply hold on and sell later. Also, usually, major brand name tube amps and instruments will hold their value over time. Electronic equipment does not because it quickly becomes obsolete, as newer tech & software replace it. I have an old Digitech iStomp pedal that is no longer supported with updates and is only good for a doorstop or paperweight now. Great video Barry!

    • @ThatGuysGuitars
      @ThatGuysGuitars 2 месяца назад +2

      Great comment
      Yeah for sure. “Make offer” never makes sense to me.
      Just price it accordingly, and if anyone’s interested, they’ll buy it
      If you put a “make offer” button on it, you’re asking for solicitations at half price

    • @christdolphin69
      @christdolphin69 2 месяца назад +2

      @@ThatGuysGuitars you can put a minimum, cant you? it doesnt make sense to me that experienced sellers dont get the dynamics or mindset of a person buying used gear, thinking theyre getting a deal. set the price higher than you were going to, then mark it as "make an offer" and people will buy it for the price you originally wanted to post it for, thinking they got a deal.
      you dont have to accept lowball offers, just ignore them. or set a minimum. all of your hypotheticals have been accounted for
      but, overall reverb is a s||*+hole. feees are insane, so you're not getting the price you want when you sell it unless you artificially inflate the value. which, if you do artificially inflate the value to cover the insane reverb fees/shipping, you're not going to sell it. to sell quickly, you have to post lower than the lowest available option, which wont be hard because everyone else is typically boosting prices much higher than their worth to cover fees anyway, unless theyve been trying to sell for months now without any luck and willing to take a beating. and the buyer isnt getting it for the price he wants unless he gets a super deal from you, because yuore both ending up paying way more than you would have on fb marketplace or craigslist or even sweetwater's gear exchange.its a mess. they should shut that place down and start over
      the worst part, is that when everyone artificially boosts the value to account for fees, the sale history price goes wayyy above what it should. and for some reason, people use reverb as a metric when pricing used gear. so all of this nonsense actually drives up the price of everything used until old cz-101's are being sold for $600+ regularly

    • @ThatGuysGuitars
      @ThatGuysGuitars 2 месяца назад

      @@christdolphin69 I understand the mindset, and there are a few ways to go about broadcasting a deal.
      I’ve sold hundreds of pieces. For about a quarter mill on reverb over the last 2-3 years, and have found multiple ways to go about things.
      Ultimately, it depends on what you’re selling, and the market for that item (is it one in a million? Or more rare)
      What’s your shipping policy? Feedback score? Are you photos staged well, and detailed? All of it helps.
      I’ve sold stuff “above market” while other sellers had the same item for less, so clearly people liked my listing better, or felt more comfortable buying from someone with a few hundred feedbacks/reviews, rather than 5.
      Regardless, You can initially list something at regular retail price, then a day later, “reset” it to your comfortable price, and it’ll give you a strikethru, and say “X % off”
      You can send offers to people who added to your watch list as well.
      I just personally, don’t like asking people to solicit me for a discount.
      It still happens, with no “make offer” button; but it cuts down on it.
      Listing a price, with a “make offer” just says “I will 100% take less than this”
      Which may be true, but you ideally want, to get full asking price.
      I look at it like a car dealer.
      I’d rather price it according to the market, at a fixed price - and let my photos, feedback, and the item sell itself; than go into price wars, or trying to finagle something by bartering, like some used car salesman

  • @Frankenstizzle
    @Frankenstizzle 2 месяца назад +29

    I just bought a Neve 1073 from Sweetwater and used your link Barry! I watched a bunch of your videos before the purchase so it's the least I could do

    • @ericjohnson1811
      @ericjohnson1811 2 месяца назад +4

      Neve 1073s are awesome. Enjoy!

    • @Frankenstizzle
      @Frankenstizzle 2 месяца назад +1

      @@ericjohnson1811 Thank you Eric! I'm so excited for it to arrive!

    • @miscmisc1023
      @miscmisc1023 2 месяца назад

      should have got a vintech x73

    • @Frankenstizzle
      @Frankenstizzle 2 месяца назад

      @@miscmisc1023 Why?

    • @DaveMcCall
      @DaveMcCall 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Frankenstizzle You got the real thing. Don't overthink it. You want that classic sound? You got it in the most direct way possible.

  • @AnalogFlava
    @AnalogFlava 2 месяца назад +16

    What im looking at is only going up. New gear might be different. But retro gear is going up up up!

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  2 месяца назад +6

      Vintage gear is an exception, but makes up a negligible percentage of all gear bought and sold.

    • @siriusfun
      @siriusfun 2 месяца назад +1

      @@BarryJohns It's not just vintage gear, however. Brand new 'boutique' pieces have not come down in price in any appreciable manner.

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  2 месяца назад +1

      Again, I talked about that too.

  • @squarelanguage
    @squarelanguage 2 месяца назад +5

    Same thing happened in the bike industry. Used prices dropping whereas it was hard to find a bike during Covid at the same time there were chip shortages

  • @drskilleto
    @drskilleto 2 месяца назад +13

    The pricing to me seems like a correction more than a direct drop. A lot of people purchase musical gear as discretionary spending as opposed to a necessity. We’ve all seen the prices rise throughout the years after Covid caused everything to turn on its head. The prices I’m seeing now are more in line with where they were +10-20% of where they were in 2019. There was a bit of a dip during 2020 but from 2021 on the prices kept going up. I don’t think the market is in a place where it can maintain those sorts of price increases since it seems a lot of gigs pay about the same as they did in the 90s.
    I mostly track used drum prices. Yes the manufacturers raised the prices, but that meant you were paying $1,200 for a drum set that cost $999 new three years ago. It would be one thing if they were vintage or no longer made, but they’re still out there.

    • @Lupine.
      @Lupine. 2 месяца назад +1

      I've been collecting cymbals based on rarity or just New Old Stock.
      Any Zildjian K will hold value, while Paiste is hit-or-miss.
      Signature drum gear holds value on the high-end.

    • @kiunthmo
      @kiunthmo 2 месяца назад

      yes, its 100% adjustment after covid. people had time and money then, so they bought a lot.

  • @pedroleal7118
    @pedroleal7118 2 месяца назад +3

    Here in Europe (I live in France), I noticed that the same item (sound, gear, amps,etc), now costs the double it costed before the Coviet thing
    (same for food!). almost everything, just doubled ! Take care!

  • @TrendComa
    @TrendComa 2 месяца назад +3

    People, Barry's advice to check the sold items before you buy or sell used gear is crucial! I buy and sell a lot of used gear and I definitely use Reverb. But I find eBay to indispensable as well. eBay tends to require more buyer beware do diligence than Reverb, but if you put in the effort, eBay can save you money. The way different types of gear sell on the two platforms does vary. I tend to prefer eBay for the really cheap stuff and the more expensive, pro gear. The gear in the middle I like Reverb. I watch items on both sites, but actual transactions seem to break down that way. I'm not sure why that is and I'd be curious to hear from other people on that. One other thing, there seem to be a more people on eBay just dumping gear when they need the money or simply don't know the value of they have. that tracks with the basic idea that eBay is a little bit more of the Wild West and Reverb is a little more civilized, so far anyway.

  • @PetrolMediaInc
    @PetrolMediaInc 2 месяца назад +6

    Yep I was selling my mixing console. I decided to keep it after I received extremely low ball offers.

  • @jerrymckenzie1858
    @jerrymckenzie1858 2 месяца назад +4

    The good stuff still holds it's value. People are just selling off stuff they don't want so you may find deals on unwanted gear.

  • @infalliblekingbrooks1700
    @infalliblekingbrooks1700 2 месяца назад +7

    Yep I’m waiting for that console one piece with the arm rest. I like that design.

  • @jesseharradine9861
    @jesseharradine9861 2 месяца назад +6

    People think I was crazy for going all in on stam to build out my studio (25 pieces mic’s/outboard) … and then wait did suck at times, but I knew those supply constraints would benefit me on the used market later. I’ve sold a couple stam things to fund other stuff and routinely got 20%-30% more than my pre sale price and it moves fast.

    • @db4ks
      @db4ks 2 месяца назад

      Using the stam 87i and I love it

  • @RobinApplewood
    @RobinApplewood 2 месяца назад +7

    Exactly. Its simple economics: rent, gas and groceries are way up, so people have less money for "non-essentials". Whats even crazier to think about is all the software and plugins Ive bought over the years and dont use anymore that have absolutely zero resale value.

  • @davidkellymitchell4747
    @davidkellymitchell4747 2 месяца назад

    I agree. Fine carpentry work can make a mixer look serious. I had a Paul Wolff 32 channel API Legacy and it had a nice oak cabinet but the prettiest I ever had was a Trident TSM. Even the huge armrest was glossy lacquered wood. Good hardwood is expensive and you can't afford many cutting mistakes. I think the market is flooded with good equipment. More equipment available today than ever before. I remember if you wanted something more than a radio station mixer you had to build it yourself or pay someone to custom build it. Musical instruments can be purchased from your next door neighbors they are so abundant.

  • @chaipup7045
    @chaipup7045 2 месяца назад +3

    it's interesting to see in the UK that the prices for new Gibson Les Pauls from the modern lite/studio up to the standard have fallen through the floor. Basically they are pre-COVID prices.

  • @TonyThomas10000
    @TonyThomas10000 2 месяца назад +3

    There is a massive credit crunch. People are maxxed out and some are delinquent or defaulting on their credit obligations. And making money in the music biz is really tough these days.

  • @joseluishernandezseptien
    @joseluishernandezseptien 2 месяца назад +8

    Great topic! I sold almost all my gear on Reverb a few months ago and kept only the essentials. The prices of used high quality gear are absurdly low these days.
    It is a good opportunity for buyers to get the pieces of gear that they really need with the money that they actually have. Don’t fall for the tricks of credit cards and magic loans. Cash is king.

    • @Soso-km8er
      @Soso-km8er 2 месяца назад +1

      @@joseluishernandezseptien Can you show me where to find this gear for low prices? Vintage studio gear still going through the roof in my area. Guitars have fallen, worn out Strat now going for 7k instead of 20k.

    • @joseluishernandezseptien
      @joseluishernandezseptien 2 месяца назад +2

      Hi! I listed them myself! Selling for way lower that I would thought they would sell, at times the lowest on Reverb at the time. Sold anmazing analogue synthesizers, Genelec The Ones in great condition, and more! Not sure about the vintage market - I don’t buy or sell vintage at all.

  • @bcj842
    @bcj842 2 месяца назад +3

    I'm seeing a lot of good deals too. I just got a Modal Argon 8 synth module for a bargain! The seller sent ME an offer for under $400. People really seem to be shedding unused equipment like mad.

    • @Soso-km8er
      @Soso-km8er 2 месяца назад

      @@bcj842 How much under $400? A digital synth aka computer with bugs as far as I can see, it sells for EUR 560 new with taxes and warranty. Not exactly shedding imho.

    • @bcj842
      @bcj842 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Soso-km8er $380 US for a synth that costs $670 here all before tax. That's still not terribly far from half price.
      When I say "shedding" I don't mean it like everyone's selling gear for pennies. I'm just saying I see a lot more solid deals on the market for equipment in barely used condition that sellers are describing like, "I have to shed some gear and I haven't really gotten into this" or something to that effect.

  • @ConwayBob
    @ConwayBob 2 месяца назад +1

    Thank you, Barry! All the best to you and your family.

  • @jmclane27
    @jmclane27 2 месяца назад +4

    Love the closing Barry!
    Go make some music and make some people happy and go make yourself happy💙💙💙

  • @CB-ul2np
    @CB-ul2np 2 месяца назад +14

    Not Strymon stuff. Strymon thinks we all won the lottery.

  • @edwardgordon4309
    @edwardgordon4309 2 месяца назад +6

    Most outboard that I bought in the past 10-15 years has at least doubled in value now

    • @siriusfun
      @siriusfun 2 месяца назад

      This.

    • @skarab9
      @skarab9 2 месяца назад +3

      Nominally, yes. Your dollar has more than halved in purchasing power though 🤑

    • @edwardgordon4309
      @edwardgordon4309 2 месяца назад

      @skarab9 That's an entirely different issue

  • @jenslempke7883
    @jenslempke7883 2 месяца назад +2

    Reverb has crazy prices all through. Never used them.

  • @danthegeetarman
    @danthegeetarman 2 месяца назад

    Yeah spot on. I buy and sell on reverb a decent amount (same reason that you do), and I’ve had the exact same results. I liken it to fishing. If you’re patient, you’ll get your price, but it depends how fast you need the sale. If you need it faster then you’ll need to take a little bit of a hit (sometimes), but if you do your research, and know you have it priced competitively (aside from the sold I also check to see what’s the current lowest. Even if it’s historically sold for $200, if there’s 10 on there for $150, no one will buy yours over those. So you have to keep both of those in mind (at least for myself)

  • @Musictron
    @Musictron 2 месяца назад

    Is there anyway we can get more of a slight angle on the bottom fader just a slight tip I think that would be nice instead of flat?

  • @OfficialStevenCravis
    @OfficialStevenCravis 2 месяца назад

    I'm curious if Thunderbolt SSD external drives will ever plummet?

  • @rowhellyo
    @rowhellyo 2 месяца назад +1

    There's something so relaxing and inspirational about your lifelong dedication to music. Appreciate your posts!

  • @thisdyingsoul76
    @thisdyingsoul76 2 месяца назад +1

    Prices on used gear went crazy because during the pandemic, shortages in materials and also factory closures due the lockdowns created a high demand since NEW products were not available.
    We are coming out of that era now and if you are asking close to new prices, the buyers are willing to save to buy new.
    Add to that, the economy is bad. There is not so much disposable income, so if prices don't come down, sellers are going to have to wait longer to get their desired price.

  • @Rhuggins
    @Rhuggins 2 месяца назад +2

    Everything seems so much more expensive now…GML went up over $1,000 dollars for their EQ, chandler curve bender as well. All the high end stuff doesnt seem to be coming down, if anything its going up. At least there are bargains in used!

  • @definfected
    @definfected 2 месяца назад

    I've also been watching gear prices come down quite a bit and here I am trying to sell a couple of things. Hopefully I don't lose too much. I'm really looking forward to your studio desk builds. I'm also a woodworker and plan to build myself a nice one with a built in daw controller with room for analog gear and such. Please show us something soon, I'm dying here 😅. Thanks for sharing!! Much ❤ BJ!!

  • @KellBailey
    @KellBailey 2 месяца назад

    The Roland Juno x just dropped $350 NEW! Also I’ve been trying to sell a lot of used gear and I’ve been losing a lot of money compared to what I should be getting for the gear.

  • @KeaneFreeman
    @KeaneFreeman 2 месяца назад +2

    I got a BAE 1073 MPF with power supply for $400 a couple months ago…who can top that!?

  • @synonyx
    @synonyx 2 месяца назад +1

    I've only been buying the deals lately. I've been scoring some good clearance items from GC lately. Sweetwater hardly wants to deal at all or even price match. Best score was a $4900 Suhr for $2699. Fender I got an offer for 30% multiple strats (20% + 10% coupon I have). My only wonder is if prices are going to eventually drop for that. Musical Instruments are a luxury item and the market is reflecting that currently.

  • @jeffagoddard
    @jeffagoddard 2 месяца назад +1

    I buy and sell gear too. Same strategy - sell stuff I barely use - buy new stuff I think I need. Yes - less buyers for used crap. Part of the reason is obsolete old gear. Ex. I want a midi controller with MPE, midi 2.0 and polyphonic aftertouch - doesn’t exist! But, non-midi 2.0 will be obsolete. Better to sell now. NI promise a new Maschine is coming….old Maschine devices will drop in price fast.

  • @UncleMilty
    @UncleMilty 2 месяца назад +1

    After decades of playing guitars and basses my left hand came up with arthritis and l switched instruments to keyboards/synths. Sold all my guitar stuff for about 1/2 to 2/3rds of what l paid. Surprisingly the only instrument l sold for what l paid was my D10 pedal steel guitar.

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  2 месяца назад

      I’m beginning to develop arthritis😪

    • @randywoolum2648
      @randywoolum2648 2 месяца назад

      Pedal Steels are part of an unfortunate smaller group of buyers these days, and the prices of them usually attracts serious buyers, so I think Pedal Steel guys are lucky enough to mostly get their money back or at least close to their money back. I have an MSA Classic D10.

  • @j-station
    @j-station 2 месяца назад

    whats your new vs used list when it comes to gear?

  • @durtcannon
    @durtcannon 2 месяца назад +1

    This is why i never quit my day job and stricly do music as a hobby. If you start selling your gear just because times are "tough" you need to get your finances an upgrade. If im planning of buying new gear, i always finance that gear by selling gear i dont use, even if i easily can buy that gear with my savings. You win something and you lose something is my golden rule in life.

    • @mitsanut5869
      @mitsanut5869 2 месяца назад +1

      I try to buy stuff that I will spend the rest of my life with. It takes forever for me to pull the trigger,but generally,I've been very happy with about 90% of what I bought. The rest was hit and miss but not getting rid of it yet.
      I only buy when I save money for it. I don't go into the debt just because there's something I'd wish to have. If I don't have the money, it's not happening. But I don't sell my gear to get another gear

    • @durtcannon
      @durtcannon 2 месяца назад

      @@mitsanut5869 im the same in that sense that i'll take forever to buy new gear. My research period and the waiting game is extremely long. Do i really need this? That question goes back and forth in my brain.

  • @napynap
    @napynap 2 месяца назад

    I love your presentation content and quality. Instant sub!

  • @EvanGisamazing
    @EvanGisamazing 2 месяца назад

    How do y’all find boxes that fit the gear? I’m struggling to find boxes for rack gear.

  • @hangar4avs
    @hangar4avs Месяц назад

    Ebay is my go-to for used gear prices and their market trend (completed and sold items). Not really for buying, but for selling.

  • @Tha_Mecca
    @Tha_Mecca 2 месяца назад

    Looks nice. Would you do one for the faderport 16? I’m actually looking to buy one.

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  2 месяца назад +1

      Send them an email to send me one, I’d be happy to.

  • @jonhamilton48
    @jonhamilton48 2 месяца назад

    Your wood working skills make that console one mk3 look slick Barry nice work brother !

  • @DeanLondonSwift
    @DeanLondonSwift 2 месяца назад

    just bought an 1176 at hella discount brand new, you ain’t wrong 😫

  • @thisbridgehascables
    @thisbridgehascables 2 месяца назад

    What gear is dropping in price? Haven’t seen prices going down.

  • @Zimmermusic
    @Zimmermusic 2 месяца назад

    are you going to do a review of the new softube faders ?

  • @jesseharradine9861
    @jesseharradine9861 2 месяца назад +3

    Omg I want the console 1 case you end up making !!

  • @plkprint
    @plkprint 2 месяца назад +1

    Thank you once again for your input and opinion….Bravo 👍

  • @fosiko123
    @fosiko123 2 месяца назад

    Looking forward to honest pro Con review; I’m turn between this and soft tube console. I plan to buy in Dec

  • @willieelliott352
    @willieelliott352 Месяц назад

    Barry I'm looking for your honest opinion, lol but really, why do you prefer nuendo over cubase and is it really better, you spoke on this about a year ago but I can not find the video, I'm thinking of switching

  • @JAMStudiosIE
    @JAMStudiosIE 2 месяца назад

    I have a fender strat delux I bought around 2004 for €1650 retail. I believe the equivalent guitar today retails for about €2500. Computer chips have also gotten hugely more expensive for digital equipment due to supply. So I’m not sure about this point.

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  2 месяца назад

      I was speaking about the US.

  • @jimshomestudio
    @jimshomestudio 2 месяца назад

    I watch Craigslist for Marshall speaker cabs from the mid 70s to mid 80s, and scored a couple so far, but since the speakers weren’t really to my liking the date of the cabs isn’t really important anymore. I’ll probably just load them up with modern Celestions anyway. Lately the prices are above my comfort range, and I can wait.

  • @Sven.Jeschke
    @Sven.Jeschke 2 месяца назад

    Bacon's through the roof ;-) But seriously, the decline of used gear prices is something I experienced, too. The gear I tried to sell in the last couple of months was already very reasonably priced, but just didn't sell. Maybe it's just because people have to pay for their summer vacations right now, and prices might go up in autumn again. Who knows.

  • @mannygrossman
    @mannygrossman 2 месяца назад +1

    It's a bloodbath out there. I've tried selling several 80's USA peavey basses for rock bottom prices and not one email of interest. Rare pedals are sitting around. I'm not asking an arm and a leg either. It's just really bad out there. I think we're at an inflection point where Gen X, the last generation to really care about music, is just too old. Everyone's interest in music seems to be waning as we enter the final stages of whatever experiment is being run on us by the elite. This problem is not getting better. I just feel bad for the Boomer generation and all their vintage guitars they thought they were gonna retire on. A lot of them will be burning them for heat in the coming years and I don't think I'm being hyperbolic.

  • @davidleeroth357
    @davidleeroth357 2 месяца назад

    Great topic Barry. I search Reverb a lot for used gear

  • @ncyancy
    @ncyancy 2 месяца назад

    Barry, what would make your stand for console one great is if you could have different angles that you could choose from, on the top module. Having the previous stand i hated the angle and did not like how I was forced to use it like such. Yours looks to be the same, and that angle is too steep for my comfort. Looks nice though, but maybe you could think of a way to have a couple different angle options.

  • @chrisjohnson8262
    @chrisjohnson8262 2 месяца назад

    Super nice wood work! Do you have an Etsy?

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  2 месяца назад

      You can check us out at www.artisanwoodshed.com

  • @compucorder64
    @compucorder64 2 месяца назад

    You could see it that way. But if you zoom out to what's happened over the last five years, it's more like a return to a modicum of sanity. After a few consecutive years of gear price bubble. It's a mixed picture. Though, with guitars and basses, definitely there's more like a collapse in second-hand prices. Because of the market sitation of market over-saturation with cheap instruments in over-supply. I see it a bit in second-hand drums. And digital gear usually doesn't retain that well, apart from maybe the typical in demand items like UAD Apollo x8. But, as you said, in-demand vintage analogue gear, classic microphones, preamps, compressors, all seem both thin on the ground, and very expensive. I think bigger studios, and successful artists, buy up quite a lot of it. Like Blackbird studios, for example, pretty much hoarding great gear. And then leasing it out. At least in Europe, where the second-hand market is a lot less healthy than it used to. I think scammery has done damage to people's confidence to buy and sell. First eBay. Then, Reverb, which these days can sometimes not be all that safe for both buyers and sellers, in terms of their customer service intervention when there's problems.

  • @ss4717
    @ss4717 2 месяца назад

    True couldn't sell any of my rme

  • @DrJuice-we5vc
    @DrJuice-we5vc 2 месяца назад

    I bought a custom shop warwick for 7 grand 3 years ago. The same bass now is 12 grand.

  • @Rhuggins
    @Rhuggins 2 месяца назад

    Im so jealous btw of your new Console One Fader!!

  • @Hartformer2
    @Hartformer2 2 месяца назад

    I hope the Rossum sp1200 comes down to 2k iso 4K + taxes for imports (Like 5k in my country)

  • @muzerino
    @muzerino 2 месяца назад

    I’ve noticed a lot of price dropping on tube amps in Australia. They’re definitely getting harder to sell and there’s some great bargains around because digital is gaining ground. As someone who plays both digital and “real” amps I am liking it because I don’t buy gear with intent to sell it in the near future.

  • @TheMelodyGod
    @TheMelodyGod 2 месяца назад +3

    Sweet water and VG are doing 36 and 24 month

  • @derdude8201
    @derdude8201 2 месяца назад

    Yeah I just bought a 2 year old but basically new condition TLM49 for just 700€… A steal!

    • @Soso-km8er
      @Soso-km8er 2 месяца назад

      It’s what it’s worth. Prices for brass 414s or vintage KMs have exploded.

  • @mrvron
    @mrvron 2 месяца назад

    i like the console one systems
    i wish its desk design is a bit more flat and a desk stand like SSL in which the console is either on the left and the fader is on the right.
    this is valuable for home studio owner with limited desk space.
    i will buy such a design.

  • @TheNathanMChannel
    @TheNathanMChannel 2 месяца назад

    Does the new fader unit still do the violent CLACKITY CLACK when it boots up? And man, when you’re updating the softtube app you get clackity clacks for each plugin.

  • @bob-rogers
    @bob-rogers 2 месяца назад

    data point: Sweetwater has the EQP-KT (pultec clone) on sale for $99 off -- to $209 (free shipping). That makes it about $40 cheaper to buy it new than to buy it used on Reverb.

  • @WhizMitchell
    @WhizMitchell 2 месяца назад +1

    Prices on new stuff is definitely dropping just not as fast as used gear.

  • @stillavenue
    @stillavenue 2 месяца назад

    Can’t wait for them to officially release that fader MKIII to go with my C1. Another great vid! Thanks!

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  2 месяца назад +3

      I wonder which version was in the video🤔

    • @jesseharradine9861
      @jesseharradine9861 2 месяца назад +1

      @@BarryJohnsI noticed that haha , review incoming?

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  2 месяца назад +2

      I don’t know what you are talking about😜

    • @stillavenue
      @stillavenue 2 месяца назад +1

      I held out and didn’t get the first and second gen C1… i’ve always been shy of controllers… but bit the bullet and got the new MKIII C1 and now I can’t live without it haha… just gotta get the fader and maybe order myself a BarryJohns enclosure for it 😉😉

  • @badoedipus2551
    @badoedipus2551 2 месяца назад

    So there’s a lot of gear I kinda track second hand prices on.. some of which, to one degree or another, I’ve been tracking for years. Though I have been seeing some deals.. I haven’t felt like lower going rates has been a big trend?
    Last month I was in the market for a new synthesizer… stuff from Make Noise.. and all the prices for what I was looking for.. I just didn’t see how it made sense not to just buy new… till someone, I guess in hard times, went to sell this kinda bundle of what I was looking for.. which I felt I got for a very good price.. and I felt like I really lucked out
    There’s definitely a few things I’m tracking that I’ve been seeing good prices on, where I hope I can get the money together before the deals slip away?

  • @faober3594
    @faober3594 2 месяца назад

    I have at least 2 equipment that went up by around 40% new. Gyraff g14 and g22. Bought them new for a bit more than 3000e and they are now close to 5k. Pretty sure there are other exemples . And not a single vintage piece of equipment I own has dropped …quite the opposite .if the gear is good and and units are scarce , prices will only go up. for mass produced stuff …well that’s another story.

  • @zmmmzmmmz
    @zmmmzmmmz 2 месяца назад

    I don't know if its just the last few months but I'm finding I can get mint or refurbished mass produced gear near the historical lows with just a little patience

  • @Yassine13x
    @Yassine13x 2 месяца назад

    whoo hooo, Softube Fader MK2.... way to go Barry. I have a Console 1 MK3, the fader is the missing piece (despite having SSL UF3/UC1 and UF1...), I'm a controller freak, yea. Can't wait for this release. do you enjoy it ?

  • @hummarstraful
    @hummarstraful 2 месяца назад

    I bought a 2019 UA 1176 for 1800.00. had to spend $400 to have the output knob replaced. So then I had $2,200 in it. And then I tried to sell it and no one wanted it. Finally after several weeks I got 1500 on Reverb. I ended up making only 1300 on it after fees and taxes. I swore I would never buy a piece of hardware ever again and I wont.

  • @TheMelodyGod
    @TheMelodyGod 2 месяца назад +3

    There a lot of B stock as well

  • @SoundSnakeStudio
    @SoundSnakeStudio 2 месяца назад +1

    Great video Barry! Subscribed!

  • @GeoTactics
    @GeoTactics 2 месяца назад

    Everyone is dumping equipment - myself included. Times are tough. I just sold my custom Les Paul I've had for 10+ years. Sad to let it go... but that's what it is.

  • @borowland5744
    @borowland5744 2 месяца назад

    I got a Headstrong SC in excellent condition for $1250.

  • @11000038
    @11000038 2 месяца назад

    It's a great time to buy folks.

  • @SilentCureOfficial
    @SilentCureOfficial 2 месяца назад +1

    Would have loved to have you as a neighbor. Hey Barry, what can we build for my 20 synth modules.. I swing by with beers on Sunday cheers

  • @chrisjohnson8262
    @chrisjohnson8262 2 месяца назад

    For years I have always done a 6-12 month interest free monthly payment on larger purchases.

  • @jeffkercheval4010
    @jeffkercheval4010 2 месяца назад

    Really good advice. Thanks!

  • @Michel-r6m
    @Michel-r6m 2 месяца назад

    You can make something to price or you make things to a certain degree of quality.
    Look at where guitar amplifiers are going...
    Yet guitars (a reasonable quality) never has been as affordable as well as effects in general.
    It is the amps that worry me a bit since there are alternatives and amps (many) are made to make coffee instead of amplify with a distinct character.

  • @jacksonmanuel33
    @jacksonmanuel33 2 месяца назад

    My experience with filtering for sold listings on Reverb is that you only see the asking prices, not what they actually sold for. The only way I’ve been able to see actual selling prices is when there is a dedicated page for a particular piece of gear. There, you’re presented with a graph showing selling prices over time.

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  2 месяца назад

      Reverb has always had a search showing what an item has sold for in the past.

    • @jacksonmanuel33
      @jacksonmanuel33 2 месяца назад +1

      @@BarryJohns Can you navigate me to that? When I do a search for an item and filter for sold listings, the results I get only show the asking price, not the selling price. I know this because I can find the listings for items I’ve purchased, but the price it displays is what the seller was asking for, not what I actually paid for it

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  2 месяца назад

      Select filter, go down to other, select sold then you will only see what they actually sold for

    • @jacksonmanuel33
      @jacksonmanuel33 2 месяца назад

      @@BarryJohnsThat’s what I do, but again, those prices displayed on the sold listings are not necessarily what they actually ended up selling for, but rather what the seller was asking for. I can find items in sold listings that I personally purchased, but the price displayed is what the seller was asking for, not what we ended up agreeing upon. I don’t know why Reverb wouldn’t be showing the actual selling price, because that would be a lot more useful, but this is what I have found.

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  2 месяца назад

      No it is the final purchase price. I even just checked my last three sales, it’s what I actually sold them for not my original asking price.

  • @jonkthompson
    @jonkthompson 2 месяца назад

    I have the iCon Pro X and based on some of the other reviews I've seen on the new one, I'll stick with the one I have. Which by the way I love!

  • @dizmix
    @dizmix 2 месяца назад

    Hey Barry, How many rack spaces is the Softube fader bank?? Enjoying the channel BTW... 🙏

  • @mikecorey8370
    @mikecorey8370 2 месяца назад

    With whatthe market is, it's best to buy from a dealer that takes returns. Not good for private sellers, but you really need to find out if that piece you bought actually works for you. We have to be smart buyers today. Sometimes we buy gear on a whim without really thinking. I'm as guilty as anyone.

  • @KC-bi9jw
    @KC-bi9jw 2 месяца назад

    Is that the new Console 1 Fader in the intro?!

  • @ivanestades5903
    @ivanestades5903 2 месяца назад

    In a certain product niche, quality and application wise everything is kind of capped, a analog heat mk2 goes for about the same as a +FX which is crazy, not only that it cost the same but that the new one can't really break the 999 mark which god forbids it does but still, it speaks of the impossibility of going further

  • @rusj5273
    @rusj5273 2 месяца назад

    Hey Barry! Just wondering what kind of microphone you use in your videos? You probably mentioned it in a video before and I'm sure the room treatment is what makes it sound great regardless of the quality of the mic. I know We all wish if we had the money, we would jump on some of the sale offers. BEWARE People!!! Check the return policy before purchasing Items, some don't have refunds or returns on such deals. Best thing to do is get a warranty (as one always should) that way you have that option. Check first just to be safe.

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  2 месяца назад +1

      Here you go. www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MKH50--sennheiser-mkh-50-small-diaphragm-condenser-microphone?mrkgadid=&mrkgcl=28&mrkgen=&mrkgbflag=&mrkgcat=&acctid=21700000001645388&dskeywordid=92700080605831403&lid=92700080605831403&ds_s_kwgid=58700008755805603&ds_s_inventory_feed_id=97700000007215323&dsproductgroupid=2529756768392&product_id=MKH50&prodctry=US&prodlang=en&channel=online&storeid=&device=m&network=g&matchtype=&adpos=largenumber&locationid=9011800&creative=708783683163&targetid=pla-2529756768392&campaignid=21573890532&awsearchcpc=1&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAAD_RQYkjxSroJfcuvTDI-hM18n27M&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIr5LSgJGYiAMVs0f_AR3XigTgEAQYASABEgJ1p_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

    • @rusj5273
      @rusj5273 2 месяца назад +1

      @@BarryJohns Thanks. Sounds Amazing. Love Your Videos.

  • @rinkydinky-ob9pe
    @rinkydinky-ob9pe 2 месяца назад +1

    There’s definitely an increase in spam but because I really take a very long time to purchase a guitar or piece of equipment it has little effect on my influence on my purchase

  • @jamesdesmond3542
    @jamesdesmond3542 2 месяца назад

    UAD just dropped a week or so ago price on X6 by $1000 CDN, and added Heritage plugin offer. Just killed my re-sell

  • @Race-Bannon1
    @Race-Bannon1 2 месяца назад +1

    Because nothing is selling. I have three vintage Gibsons for sale on FB Marketplace and no one seems in whereas 6 months ago I didn’t have any issues selling gear.

  • @jdrum4371
    @jdrum4371 2 месяца назад

    Ikr! Yesterday i picked up a lp standard for the crazy fair and low price of $4000. Thats crazy cheap! Lol

  • @markkilley2683
    @markkilley2683 2 месяца назад

    I doubt it.

  • @scramblesthedeathdealer
    @scramblesthedeathdealer 2 месяца назад

    I'm trying to collect an entire Boss compact pedal collection, I sure hope some prices drop. I feel dumb though, I just saw an FZ-2 and DF-2 for sale cheaper than I paid, and in better condition. Oh well.

  • @siriusfun
    @siriusfun 2 месяца назад +3

    Disagree completely. I own a studio and have been adding regularly over the last decade (Manley, Chandler, Mojave, BURL, API, etc) and can attest that Pro audio gear here in Toronto remains at all time highs.

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  2 месяца назад

      Not sure you can disagree as I say the exact same thing you are for that type of gear. Honestly, did you even watch the video

  • @robainscough
    @robainscough 2 месяца назад

    If gear prices have plummeted, I guess I missed out … my Genelec 8351s and 7350A was $10,000 … my KORG Pa5X $6000 … $1500 worth in Mogami cables … Rupert Never headphone amp $600 … I typically shop Sweetwater and Amazon so can someone please tell me where these prices are lower?

    • @Circharles
      @Circharles 2 месяца назад +3

      @@robainscough the used market… as barry would say “ i bet you didnt watch the entire video” 😂😂

    • @robainscough
      @robainscough 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Circharles I did … best price I’ve seen for “used” Genelec 8351B is $3000 each … about $1000 less or 25% off new. Thru-out history, I’ve sold my used gear at max 50% to low of 20% original purchase price. Not sure what the expectations are, but getting 75% of your value back from used gear seems excellent for the seller (and good luck). Heck, if you take gear down to a Guitar Center you’ll be lucky to get 10-15% of original cost even for newer equipment only a few months old … has been this way for the past 2 decades or more. I have no idea how anyone could make money from “flipping” equipment even if restored and repaired (maybe an exotic violin and the like?) … but on the electronic side of things, who’s gonna buy non-warranty equipment that has been repaired by a non-certified individual.