Bro, seeing your view point of this as a new player that actually completed high end game play...you are the perfect person that blizz needs to listen to.
As someone that’s played for many many years and helps new players I would say that I always recommend not touching addons at all until you recognize an area that seems like it needs something more or there’s a quality of life thing you’d like to get. I firmly believe going without addons while learning though is very important to your enjoyment of the game in the long run
I agree, except a few key addons like DBM for doungeons and raids or Gladius for pvp. But that's about it p much, even later on you don't need many more addons except some weak auras and omnibar if pvp
When I first started, my friends sent me a huge list of addons to install without telling me what exactly they did, just that they "Improved" the game. Turns out there's a vast difference in what my friends and I would consider improvements, so I got rid of them all. I had a fresh start on a new server and once I had reached max lvl, I felt confident in picking out the addons I felt were needed.
I'd say I've played since Cataclysm, but I've never been so in tune with the game till now. Ive never gotten to current content because i kept trying out different races and classes and running around with them, and only when the talent trees came in did I finally understand how to play my main class. I still have never raided current but I've been working up the nerve to try the raid finder at least.
Exact same for me. Played a little during wotlk but really dove in when Cata came out. I don't think it was until the last couple expansions or so I've begun to master most of the specs in the game. The talent tree system they brought back was so refreshing. I hated when they took that away after Cata when Panda came out. I started with Affliction Warlock in Cata and its always stuck with me.
Every player eventually burns out with WoW I started just before the original Burning Crusade expansion was released - I've had ups and downs and times away from the game in between most expansions - the only expansions I got most enthused by were og Wrath and Legion tbh. BUT it still is a great MMO overall. Dragonflight enlivened the game a little for me. Looking forward to the new arc expansions. New Aussie sub and Twitch follower here. Love your diversity of MMO content.
I started playing when vanilla classic came out, but it was super on and off cause I just couldn’t understand it (I only played fps before wow) I was so lost. Started really playing again in wrath, everyone got geared way before I did so I felt like I was missing out. So I tried out vanilla again, never left. Been playing for about two and half years now, enjoying sod thoroughly.
i felt a similar experience with SoD, i felt like everyone was level 20 and soon 40, and i was still getting multiple characters to level 10 just to figure out which class i want to level. i ended up giving up, as so many people played multiple different servers/realms, it was hard to keep up😭
@@moopliss if youre competetive, watching logs is good motivation to obtain the best gear always asap. For myself i can call it fun to tryhard time to time.
@@moopliss my pov is that every new season its a new cycle: you get new story beats, new raid , new set dungeon and new gear sets. In Dragonflight the patch cycle was 8 weeks apart and the seasons around 20-22 weeks and the first time they shared the roadmap publicly. If manage to enter a guild the social aspect greatly increase and maybe the seasonal aspect of the game is lessened
@@moopliss Consider it like seasons being reset every few months. Like a new Battle Pass in Fortnite, for example. Every Season in WoW is a fresh start, new set bonus for your class, new raid, mostly new or reworked dungeons to revisit. Remember, time is ticking and life is short. Nothing is made to last.
@@moopliss I'ts just a job, like most games this old. It preys on your nostalgia, fomo as well as a myriad of other things to get you to play constantly. Mmos have been like this since wow classic. Just long checklists until endgame, where you just grind the same dungeons over and over again. hoping to get gear. Unlike most other mmos however, loot is not instanced. you have to roll against other people that more than likely have the pieces you want. but just want them for transmog or just so they can snipe it from you. Wow has had one of, if not the most unwelcoming communities to new players. Don't waste your time on it, my friend. there are better ones out there.
I started a big pvp community in end of BFA - we run a lot of non-toxic and friendly RBGS and have a big discord, and its really fun with good communication and all - people also find arena partners there - and we have people who met each other in the community and are now living together...the social aspect of this game, despite all the soloq being made, is really a strong factor for a lot of people I think 🙂
I didn’t start using add ons till last month and I have been playing since burning crusade 😭 I just fell in love with the story and the flexibility of it
Longtime player since 2007 I take long breaks that's what keeps me interested in the game, And ever since classic came out I've played classic era more than I've played retail. I have played a little bit of dragonflight I have 2 max level characters but that doesn't take long so that's not really saying much, I'm really looking forward to the next expansion my favorite thing to do in World of Warcraft is hardcore and season of discovery... retails OK
the only add-on I used was the bartender one. It just allow you to resize or reshape your bar to make them fit a control style. For example I like a 3X4 bar to fit with my gamepad layout.
Don’t worry every player stops playing once in a while. It’s been 2 years since i completely stopped but i will probably be back for Mist of Pandaria Classic!! Btw don’t miss that loll
Loads of alts that do a specific thing. Got a Demon Hunter flag runner, a Shaman that has as many totems as I can get, and a Hunter that's taming the rarest pets in the game like the Risen Gargantuan
I playedx WoW for many many years.. i don't play much retail anymore.. been playing classic as of late.. But the world is fun to explore, i didn't even know about addons till later in my life playing the game. i was always reading quests and exploring. some cool places in the world :) i'm happy to see new players enjoying the game
I’ve played for 10 years now, I’ve been having a break from it recently due to being too busy, but I’d say, it’s hard not to get tired of it even with all the questionable new things
I watched your original WoW video right when it came out, can't believe it was that long ago. It's really interesting to hear you talk about WoW now, you speak about it now as someone who clearly has a good understanding of the game. I started playing during BfA, back in 2018, and was at the same point as you, dabbled in a little bit of everything but never got super far into endgame. I found the most fun from just experiencing all the classes and content for the first time until I ended up realising that I enjoyed healing the best, and I sort of fell into it as a role. I'd play on and off for a few months at a time and skipped Shadowlands entierly due to the grind. Coming back to WoW right when Dragonflight launched two years ago was extremly fun and had me hooked on the game properly this time, I really think the best time to play the game is right when a expansion starts or a season starts. Everything is new and exciting and getting into the gear grind and pushing yourself to improve and conquer the hardest content you can do was, for me, the most fun. I try to play a new class every season to keep things fresh, and have since joined a guild I enjoy raiding with a couple times a week. Now I'm a Cutting Edge raider, having killed Mythic Fyrakk just a few weeks back :) Hope you keep enjoying the game, hopefully as much as I have, and I can't wait to see more videos! :)
Nice video regarding your experience as a new player! I saw some similarities to my upbringing within the game, dating back to 2007, that I would like to give some insight/feedback on in hopes that it helps with familiarization. 1. The leveling experience was changed back in Shadowlands with the level squish (120 down to 60) where Blizzard allowed the player to level wherever and however they want vs going through all the old expansions (which was how you did it until that rework). This change was more in service to the veteran players at the expense of the new player experience. Best work around is to focus each area per alt you decide to level (if you want a not entirely 1 shot questing experience of each of the older expansions). 2. The ability/button bloat is a bit nuanced of an issue. YES for a new player it's extremely overwhelming because you get hit with a wave of abilities, half of which you do not use in PvE or without specific tier sets that boost them. Personally I like to have every possible ability per spec bound, being primarily a PvPer, which results in ALOT of keybinds (I think I use close to 60+). However you can really trim down on things to the barebones essentials by only binding "necessary" and rotational abilities, as well as utilizing the "known" conditional to write macros to allow spells to change based on your talent selection. Think how Dark Ascension changes to Void Eruption when you change the talent. 3. Regarding addons, their necessity and impact has not been overly required until the post - Warlords of Draenor time period due to the introduction of M+ and the increased difficulty of raiding creating an arms race with addon developers and game developers. As a personal recommendation to new players I recommend downloading "non-UI" addons that help provide awareness in combat (DBM, Weakauras, Gladius/Gladiusex/Sarena, BG Enemies, Bigdebuffs, and flyplatebuffs/Plater). Most of these addons will not ruin your interface when using them, meaning that you can focus on creating a solid UI foundation using Blizzard's Edit Mode and then use these types of addons as a sort of garnish to your gaming experience. Although each of these addons can be messed around with quite a bit to provide a tailored profile that works for you, all of these addons work almost perflectly with the baseline download. Hope these 3 points help! Also if you need any feedback or guidance getting into PvP, feel free to reach out! Been a PvPer for many many many years, and I am always happy to help show "new" players the ropes, especially when things are quite a bit more complicated then they used to be.
I’ve been playing SoD on and off, but haven’t raided retail since Legions I reach max level and quit every expac now. When pug culture died around MoP that was the end for me. I can’t afford to schedule weekly raids due to real life constraints. I just want to turn on the game and play when I can and feel accomplished when I get off.
I typically spend my time inbetween major patches collecting things. Transmog, mounts. As a fairly new player who's been at it for 3 expansions, there is a giant backlog of things to collect. Just recently I unlocked all of the allied races I was missing for the upcoming Pandaria Remix.
@@moopliss It depends! When it comes to farming old raids for example I will use my druid specifically geared for speed. For newer content I stick to my main. And for transmog I have a separate Mail and Cloth alt. I have even created alts to specifically get a single piece of transmog haha. With the upcoming Warband however, the need for the separate alts kinda falls flat in regards to collecting though. I have already leveled a second druid in MoP:Remix that I'll be gearing for speed as well once The War Within releases but since weekly lockouts are still a thing, I'll continue using my alts albeit at a more efficient pace.
The things I do to keep myself busy Is work on mount farms or achievements I've been wanting. Or class stuff and legion provides alot of fun class related things to get your class hall mounts that fly
finally someone who does these 'new player tries wow' videos right. in most videos the guys talk 95% about the levelling experience and it always ends in "i dont know what to do once max level so i uninstalled".
hah, thank you💪 i think it helps that i played other MMORPGs first before deciding to jump into WoW. gotta hand it to players in game and the community in general for helping me figure out what to do once i hit max level.
been playing very sporadically since 2011, i enjoy doing raids and m+, but my true endgame enjoyment is to farm transmog, make my character look cute and then level up more alts so they can farm transmogs to look cute as well xD
I am 24 years old. I play WoW since 2004 and have accumulated around 36.000 hours /played across different characters and versions of the game, including Classic, Plunderstorm, Hardcore, Season of Discovery. I play the game just for fun. It has so much to offer to me. I leveled up all different classes, tried all different specs besides Feral Druid, Affliction Warlock, Frost Mage and Frost Death Knight, but I'll surely try those out as well. I have nearly played every zone and am currently only missing some Pandaria content. I tried out every profession and am currently leveling up all of them in every expansion. Yet there is still so much more for me to explore. I play games to experience them, to immerse myself in the world. I created myself in WoW and now I want to do every content it has to offer. I did similar things with Dishonored, Minecraft, Sea of Thieves and several others. I want to get the full package out of my game. 100% me, 100% game. It's all about the game.
@@jimmiekarlsson4458 I'm not asking you to believe it. Yet I'm not lying to you. My father played the game on release and I was very interested and curious, so I asked if I could join him and he got me a discounted computer that could run the game, got me an account and I joined him.
Im playing WoW for 16 years now. I had some breaks but all ways leaded back to Azeroth. I never played retail .. I consider myself as a boomer and its rly hard for me to get used to new things. I burned out about WoW after some high lvl deaths in HC mode and than SoD appears. I havent earned so much fun in game in years .. its absolutely amazing. Btw. we had similar parents about the christian things so i got u :D
You made all good points. For me, the biggest downside WoW has is the lack of gear permanence. I love so much of WoW, but having gear that gets COMPLETELY outdated over the span of a few months is really really annoying. I wish there was at least some level of horizontal gear progression across the entirety of one to two expansions, because then it would give us lots of time to enjoy being geared up, while still having new strong gear to go after.
re: your point about skills. Personally I find the lack of flavour skills on Gw2 I get bored to easy. Especially in games like ESO where you have loads of skills but can only choose like 4
I still play the game even after more than 10 years on and off but I think the part i enjoy the most is competing for top damage, healing, pulling big, and just seeing numbers and in general but I love raiding the most. World of warcraft is my favorite game ever since i started playing back in cataclysm. I guess I'll see you in the war within.
tbh getting new gear has always been the norm in WoW, it can seem like a slog, but when you get that juicy new gear, you feel empowered, your numbers start spiking and it gives you a dopemine rush. triggers those feel good centers in your brain like getting some sloppy toppy. lol and gear used to last a lot shorter amount of time before seasons were a thing, instead gear would be classified as old as soon as the new Raid Patch was ready for release, i think a lot of players are blind to that fact.
yooo mooopler!! :D learning every class is learning to counter every class, or at least learning all their spells to know when to counter them xD despite what others say, addons really aren't necessary, its only important to those who tell you about them as they find certain aspects overwhelming. even a bg healer doesnt need addons :) (regardless of what people say under this comment XD )
exactly well i just use details for information but all other mechanics you dont need any addon, have some good coleographs, and for myric radint even we have a timer watch on the UI for watch that, when i play tera they say a good game dont need addons, addons just make the people lazy and they dont undestand the mechanics
I really like wow's incredible amount of skills. I prob would not play if it didn't have them. I think teaching new players the skills would be a better compromise.
I'm always taking long breaks, I'll play for a few months and get really into chasing my IO score with M+, burn out then quit for a few months, when I''m playing it will easily take up 5/6 hours 7 days a week, some times I just stop M+ and do side quests and faction reps, Recently I've not played since getting KSM and will go back for MoP remix just because I want to see whats happening outside my room XP
@@moopliss I'll try a new class at the end of an expansion, but rotate between my warrior, rogue and demon hunter while I'm doing end content. The funny thing is, the reason I first got hooked was leveling through the world, but like so many the dopamine hits of growing a number at end game has captured me XD
No one will boo you for unsubbing. People will celebrate you taking health into consideration. Worst thing about WoW players is how they tell me "sorry bro, I don't have time to check anything you recommend, because I am busy playing WoW".
I got to say i still love wow but i just can't stand the gear grind anymore. I played it from TBC to Pandaria like a mad man but after GW2 launched and it having its gear system it just never was the same and it was mostly the gear grind part. I still play WoW from now and then but i never stick around more than maybe few weeks or a month i just dislike the grind part too much and raiding was never something i really enjoyed after they went away the 10/25 man raids and adding more difficulty levels was just nail in the coffin for me. M+ dungeon stuff i never even touched because i just have no interest at all for content that is run against the clock stuff. About the addons. Personally as i don't raid only addons i have ever used are things like dps meter to show that i am actually doing even remotely the dps that i am supposed to do and sexymap so i can move the minimap to bottom right side of the screen as i hate the original spot of it other than that i have no idea or care what addons i would be supposed to use and i have played wow for 17 year like that.
Did the same with FF.. but having all classes on 1 character made me more or less never play WoW again... i log on and do my Trading post for the month and then i skip it... Warbands wont change my mind since i would rather be able to play all classes on 1 character and have plate gear be able to be used by characters that can wear plate... So good to have it simple. Played FF for 1 year and WoW since 2019. I regret not trying FF earlier.
Level up in legion instead of dungeon spamming great alternative with great rewards and gets you started on your way to your Artifact appearances. No addon is needed to enjoy the game DBM makes life easier and DPS meter to see your numbers in comparison to others are really the only things i use.
A very COMMON problem with PVP is the lack of attention blizzard gives it. the fact you need to grind out the PVP gear by PLAYING PVP... its a system where YOU LEGIT HAVE TO SPAM LOSE until you have enough currency to start getting gear in order to win
You can buy crafted green PvP gear from AH, and if you do Battleground Blitz you get ilvl scaled up. PvP has been getting more attention in Dragonflight than it had in I don't know how many previous expansions combined. We got an entire new rated mode that for all its problems has been a big win, and we're getting another new rated mode next expansion. PvP does have its problems, sure, but so does M+ and Raids, so far in DF PvP has been the healthiest it's been in a long, long time.
@@gregjross852 Classic Andys i can never get, they talk big about how Vanilla to Wrath was the golden age, but yet who's on those servers now that the content is all released? just shows that "you think you do, but you dont." wasnt that much of a hot take.
I hate people saying you cant play wow without addons... anyway im not a mythic raid or dungeon lvl player, but i love doing current pvp and open world season content until i get all the collection sets that are available. I tried to do a rating pvp do get elite collection set but i only got to 1600 with my rogue and cant figure out a way to make it any higher. I guess rogues arent in pvp meta right now. But hey, i main rogue since 2016 and i love all the different specializations you can play and how distinctive they are. Sub rogue is my bet now , but assa is also a lot of fun.
Oh hey, I remember you. Neat you stuck around. One thing I'll tell you about addons -- It's best to be a minimalist. Too much addon usage degrades your cognitive abilities and situational awareness (a quote from the GM of the top guild). If you can do it with your brain, try to, you'll be better for it in the long run. Obviously this only applies to some, you can't really do a damage meter in your brain. How do I keep wow fresh? Mostly it does that itself. WoW feels stale when you pidgeonhole yourself into a singular goal (EG: I must get the highest ilvl in raids). But when you actually enjoy all of it - The endgame, the lore, the world, the professions, the economy, the people you meet - It never really gets stale. If there's a long content drought then I just go do another game for a bit, but Dragonflight kept the patches going often enough that I never needed to.
I made it to 5:00 then he said "it's not like the older raids, there's actually a challenge". Dude didn't even try to play wow classic AT CONTENT w/ no nerfs. Heroic LK with no 30% buff is insane. I literally walked into a heroic raid on retail and was like - wooow look at how easy it is to avoid the clearly displayed no-no zone. sstep off.
Dude you are not saying that raids are easier now, I've played since tbc with multiple cutting edges and can assure you, the amount of mechanics being thrown at you, got exponentially more complex and punishing over time, mythic Archimonde was close to impossible without maddening amounts of addons to make it viable. When i went back to the raids in classic, they were piss easy, only thing that made it "hard" was other players that can't understand "fire bad".
Underrated video. I hope asmon sees this. It was nice of you to point out that your parents were loving and caring, and they brought you up properly instead of berating them because of the demon thing. People can have their beliefs but now you're an adult and you've been able to catch up and experience a lot of things for the first time which is awesome :)
Everyone has a different way of playing WoW which is very interesting overall, what i'd say you might be missing as a form of enjoyment from WoW is enjoying the combat maybe? From watching earlier videos and this one, you seem not to enjoy it much, not to say you should but if u could it would definitely elevate ur experience and maybe get u into M+ and more raiding, gearing just becomes a thing to aid you into harder content. Also for PvP it's actually not been worked on for a while, they did promise to work on it in the next expansion cause they felt that they did them wrong, i still enjoy it, but expect to get brutally destroyed if you do try it.
I know a guy who quit playing after wrath because he was tired of regearing. With how WoW works your character will technically never get it’s best items because each new patch will increase the ilvl of gear you need. That’s basically never bothered me because that’s just been baked into the gameplay from the start and most of the time I can never get CE anyway so why even try to get my best gear for the tier? I think something that helps with burnout though is either taking an entire season off of an expansion or not subbing until it’s the final patch of the expansion. I see now you’re a gw2 player, idk if the gearing system is still the same but back in 2012 you got your best gear at max level quickly and then you just went after cosmetics i guess. Personally I like the progression of my character getting stronger patch to patch and when gw2 did the opposite of that it’s pretty much what made me quit the game after I hit max level. It just felt like I had nothing to do at endgame. So I think it’s just different players feel differently about the playstyles tbh and WoW might just not be for you specifically because of that.
I think first thing they need to do is cater towards not only sweaty end game content like raids and m+ because a lot of players new ones especially just aren’t looking to endlessly grind to get a few item levels higher gear, it would be ok if those things where better fine tuned for more casual players because if you are chances are your ilvl is not so high and then you’re just gatekept from enjoying those things by sweaty neckbeards who won’t hold back to spew the most foul mouthed things at you just for accidentally pulling some extra mobs or not doing an interrupt at the correct time or whatever
over the years i've been hating addons more and more, games should be desinged to reduce the need for them completely. Atleast mechanicly, and maybe allow addons that change UI looks for example, but that's it.
Yes, the game has a lot of skills, but on average, most of them are irrelevant a large amount of the time. Average rotation in my experience is like 5-7 spells, then there's a smattering of situational items. I usually avoid the clutter by having my UI size reduced.
I've been playing off an on since 2008, I took a long break from 2011 to 2020 and lost my account so I had to restart from nothing. I spend most of my time doing professions. I like doing the quests and eventually want to do every quest in the game (which I had accomplished back in 2010), but I don't have as much free time now so I'm not sure if it will be possible before I retire.
@@moopliss Achievements and Titles. "The Lore Master" is for completing the main story quests in all zones. "The Seeker" was for completing 3000 quests back in 2008, I'm not sure if they have a new version of that based on the new quantity of quests.
Pretty interesting video. I feel like I'm the opposite, I like mythic+ over raiding because I feel like I have more control over my success. I hate I do the mechanics correctly but my raid vipes for hours people keep dieing to swirlies. In mythic+ failure is at least not hours but minutes.
The old expansions are best experienced through alts. Start a new character, and then use Chromie-time to select one of the old expansions to level until new content in. It's basically like a perma-timewalking for that character. You can still collect old transmog styles, but the zones level with you, so you're not out there one shotting everything.
I don't know where you got that information where addons are forced on you. If that's your chat telling you to get addons, thats just your chat. Addons are never forced for you to play the game. They exactly what the name says. Add Ons. No addon is required at all.
Played few hours of war within. Copy pasta is real in wow. And for old player back in day. Eve is my better half. Wow felt like I bought expansion hoping wow get better. Nope
nah i feel ya when you do get burned out, it can happen. yeah the game SHOULDN'T NEED add ons to make the game more "enjoyable" the game has been out for years and it still needs to do better on it's UI and the like. I don't get why they just don't hire the damn people that do that sort of stuff from the add on communty... Just fawkin hire them and improve the UI already geezus. Yes there should be less buttons to press and it's kinda why i just stick with a bit more simple classes. Button bloat does suck but majority of mine are mounts/toys, buff pots, health pots, trinkets, macro stuff and Cool downs for the specific class ya playing that buffs it up more.
To any player ever, I'd suggest to install an RP addon (mostly Total Roleplay 3) and to explore the RP scene in WoW, from the more dedicated to the less-so dedicated. Would strongly suggest avoiding the r34 side of RP.
nice video ! regarding skills most classes have less than 10 rotational skills - then ofcause you have defensives and utility. But I don't you use the standard UI but can't you put moseouver over the action bars in the edit mode?
U had me going alright i can understand your opinion, till you got to spells. The specs you played in this video is some of the specs with most button bloat the hunter you showcased u literaly threw passive spells that you will never press and other buttons on there to fill it out, you even put some things twice thats just disingenuous, most classes/specs have around 7-8 spells they use and then maybe some cooldowns on the side. Dungeon leveling is not the fastest and if you thought it was to hard to understand what your spells did while doing them. Then take a few minutes between the dungeons and read what the spell does or you know just dont spam dungeons? besides that decent video though those 2 things really just felt like nit picky.
i like the honesty and appreciate the comment🙏 you are right, i did sprinkle in some passive skills in there, but i think some players might not read everything and could end up in a similar situation. even without passive skills, i think the game might have too many skills to juggle. either that, or i need to learn which skills are important, and leave the rest outside of my skillbar🤷
@@moopliss The only way to really know what you should use and not use is by trial and error. Sadly there is no proper way that doesnt require 3rd party stuff to know what you should press and what is a waste of time, guides and addons fix those things but it should be built in the game for sure. personally i dont like reading spells but it is the best way to learn new classes without looking up a guide explaining everything for you
10 total skills (abilities), including utility and defensives?? lol.... no. 10 abilities would kill the game for everyone who enjoys challenging/competitive pve and pvp. The combat in wow is the best in any mmo ever made, and it's not even close (I have played almost every mmo ever made for extensive periods of time). The idea of the 10 ability thing (started by that muppet Asmonwhogivesaf$ck) is asinine and has never been even close to the reality of the game since its inception. It's also not hard to learn a class. I had to learn Evoker like everyone else and with a little logic and some critical thinking I had the basics down in less than a day and knew my whole kit in a couple days (and I have an atrocious memory). You can play the game perfectly fine (I have at various times in the games life) without a single addon. Not having addons would make the game markedly worse. There are so many addons improve the quality of life, addons that don't even have anything to do with combat. Killing addons would also kill accessibility options for those that are deaf and hard of hearing as well as colorblind people; which is reason alone why addons will never, ever go away. Blizzard does need to do a better job, and they have this expansion, of making the base raid warnings better and boss mechanics easier to see. As for combat, you don't need a single addon to play your character at all but the very highest of levels (the .1%). The reason you need pvp gear for pvp and pve gear for pve is for a couple reasons; it gives the devs a tuning nob that can be tuned for that game mode specifically and it prevents pvp'ers from having to do pve content for gear and vise versa. wow isn't developed with new players as a priority. It hasn't been in a decade at least (if ever). They develop the game for the player base it already has and with an eye on returning players (at least retail isn't). New players are a bonus. The new player experience could be better, as it stands it's pretty confusing but they are making strides to make it better.
I agree 10 is not enough, I think 20-24 would be the sweet spot. I think the issue with bloat that I have is some abilities just do not feel good to press and are merely a prop and modifier. You can see with demon hunter and evoker they have learned from it.
It is so damn hard for me to recommend this game to almost anyone. The game is based purely on the treadmill now, the leveling before the endgame exists to be completed as fast, efficiently and easily as possible with no soul, wonder, exploration or difficulty whatsoever. Those two things in tandem, break this game so hard...
I played quite a lot during the covid lockdowns. What was really fun for me was going through old expansions and doing achievements and collecting mounts. I played WoW back in vanilla and it was all really nostalgic. But now that I have gotten the mounts I wanted and did the achievements I wanted to do, I find it almost impossible to play the current expansion. The reputation grind is endless and as soon as you get good gear, a new patch hits and it is all useless. Dragonflight was worse for me than Shadowlands. The theme just felt childish.
lol you evidently never tried to fight a Rare Mob, ever since Pandaria the Rare Mobs of the overworld have had Dungeon Boss type of Mechanics. also you're free to explore at your leisure, nobody's fault that you dunno how to hop off the treadmill. "git gud"
Thats more so on the players. Season of Discovery phase 3 has proven players will always go the least difficult fastest way to endgame rather then the more tiresome route of exploring.
@@Dramn_ The DF story is not trying to do that… You are comparing a finale of a decade long build-up to an almost-filler arc that's trying to figure out the post-wars world and how to continue story-telling after the Jailer crashed and burned (it). Like, I'm not into the story either, didn't have goosebumps in any cinematic for the first time, but the comparison is just useless. Come back in 6 years and compare, I have no idea if it will be good, but at least that's closer to an apples to apples comparison.
@@supersoaker317 Not really, especially given as she cares more about the clout than about money. The only way to not support her is if you don't contribute to Harry Potter having any relevance, which means pirating won't solve the issue. Besides after everything she has said and done, making you side eye some of the stuff in her books, how can it not turn to ash in your mouth?
Not a fan of retail in its current dsy. Far too bloated. No idea of the over world story or lore. It needs a brand new single player experience where you speed though the dungeons and raids like a time walking.
Bro, seeing your view point of this as a new player that actually completed high end game play...you are the perfect person that blizz needs to listen to.
As someone that’s played for many many years and helps new players I would say that I always recommend not touching addons at all until you recognize an area that seems like it needs something more or there’s a quality of life thing you’d like to get. I firmly believe going without addons while learning though is very important to your enjoyment of the game in the long run
I agree, except a few key addons like DBM for doungeons and raids or Gladius for pvp. But that's about it p much, even later on you don't need many more addons except some weak auras and omnibar if pvp
When I first started, my friends sent me a huge list of addons to install without telling me what exactly they did, just that they "Improved" the game.
Turns out there's a vast difference in what my friends and I would consider improvements, so I got rid of them all.
I had a fresh start on a new server and once I had reached max lvl, I felt confident in picking out the addons I felt were needed.
@@wladynoszhighlights5989 except nobody uses dbm anymore if there is big/littlewigs😂
I'd say I've played since Cataclysm, but I've never been so in tune with the game till now. Ive never gotten to current content because i kept trying out different races and classes and running around with them, and only when the talent trees came in did I finally understand how to play my main class. I still have never raided current but I've been working up the nerve to try the raid finder at least.
i recommend trying raiding one day! you are welcome to raid sometime with the Hydrated Gamers community🤝
Exact same for me. Played a little during wotlk but really dove in when Cata came out. I don't think it was until the last couple expansions or so I've begun to master most of the specs in the game. The talent tree system they brought back was so refreshing. I hated when they took that away after Cata when Panda came out. I started with Affliction Warlock in Cata and its always stuck with me.
thunderdrum i literally could have typed your exact same comment. that is the most me thing i have ever read
Every player eventually burns out with WoW I started just before the original Burning Crusade expansion was released - I've had ups and downs and times away from the game in between most expansions - the only expansions I got most enthused by were og Wrath and Legion tbh. BUT it still is a great MMO overall. Dragonflight enlivened the game a little for me. Looking forward to the new arc expansions. New Aussie sub and Twitch follower here. Love your diversity of MMO content.
i think they need an arachnophobia filter for australia, idk how everyone there survives with those giant spiders🕷
@@moopliss LMAO - nah we just breed them especially for the tourists lol :)
in the next expansion we will have a toy that transforms spiders in crabs :D
I started playing when vanilla classic came out, but it was super on and off cause I just couldn’t understand it (I only played fps before wow) I was so lost. Started really playing again in wrath, everyone got geared way before I did so I felt like I was missing out. So I tried out vanilla again, never left. Been playing for about two and half years now, enjoying sod thoroughly.
i felt a similar experience with SoD, i felt like everyone was level 20 and soon 40, and i was still getting multiple characters to level 10 just to figure out which class i want to level. i ended up giving up, as so many people played multiple different servers/realms, it was hard to keep up😭
For me wow is never boring not matter how many times I have to regear
any tips on how to enjoy this aspect of the game? 🤔 i find it more of a nuisance, maybe i need to think differently about it.
@@moopliss if youre competetive, watching logs is good motivation to obtain the best gear always asap. For myself i can call it fun to tryhard time to time.
@@moopliss my pov is that every new season its a new cycle: you get new story beats, new raid , new set dungeon and new gear sets. In Dragonflight the patch cycle was 8 weeks apart and the seasons around 20-22 weeks and the first time they shared the roadmap publicly. If manage to enter a guild the social aspect greatly increase and maybe the seasonal aspect of the game is lessened
@@moopliss Consider it like seasons being reset every few months. Like a new Battle Pass in Fortnite, for example. Every Season in WoW is a fresh start, new set bonus for your class, new raid, mostly new or reworked dungeons to revisit. Remember, time is ticking and life is short. Nothing is made to last.
@@moopliss I'ts just a job, like most games this old. It preys on your nostalgia, fomo as well as a myriad of other things to get you to play constantly.
Mmos have been like this since wow classic. Just long checklists until endgame, where you just grind the same dungeons over and over again. hoping to get gear. Unlike most other mmos however, loot is not instanced. you have to roll against other people that more than likely have the pieces you want. but just want them for transmog or just so they can snipe it from you. Wow has had one of, if not the most unwelcoming communities to new players.
Don't waste your time on it, my friend. there are better ones out there.
I started a big pvp community in end of BFA - we run a lot of non-toxic and friendly RBGS and have a big discord, and its really fun with good communication and all - people also find arena partners there - and we have people who met each other in the community and are now living together...the social aspect of this game, despite all the soloq being made, is really a strong factor for a lot of people I think 🙂
I didn’t start using add ons till last month and I have been playing since burning crusade 😭 I just fell in love with the story and the flexibility of it
Longtime player since 2007 I take long breaks that's what keeps me interested in the game, And ever since classic came out I've played classic era more than I've played retail.
I have played a little bit of dragonflight I have 2 max level characters but that doesn't take long so that's not really saying much, I'm really looking forward to the next expansion my favorite thing to do in World of Warcraft is hardcore and season of discovery... retails OK
i hope one day i can get a character to max level in hardcore. how many times did you have to "start again" in hardcore? 💀
the only add-on I used was the bartender one. It just allow you to resize or reshape your bar to make them fit a control style. For example I like a 3X4 bar to fit with my gamepad layout.
Wow has added most of those functionalities into the base game now! I made it look like my elvui
Don’t worry every player stops playing once in a while. It’s been 2 years since i completely stopped but i will probably be back for Mist of Pandaria Classic!! Btw don’t miss that loll
Loads of alts that do a specific thing. Got a Demon Hunter flag runner, a Shaman that has as many totems as I can get, and a Hunter that's taming the rarest pets in the game like the Risen Gargantuan
I playedx WoW for many many years.. i don't play much retail anymore.. been playing classic as of late.. But the world is fun to explore, i didn't even know about addons till later in my life playing the game. i was always reading quests and exploring. some cool places in the world :) i'm happy to see new players enjoying the game
I’ve played for 10 years now, I’ve been having a break from it recently due to being too busy, but I’d say, it’s hard not to get tired of it even with all the questionable new things
I watched your original WoW video right when it came out, can't believe it was that long ago. It's really interesting to hear you talk about WoW now, you speak about it now as someone who clearly has a good understanding of the game.
I started playing during BfA, back in 2018, and was at the same point as you, dabbled in a little bit of everything but never got super far into endgame. I found the most fun from just experiencing all the classes and content for the first time until I ended up realising that I enjoyed healing the best, and I sort of fell into it as a role. I'd play on and off for a few months at a time and skipped Shadowlands entierly due to the grind.
Coming back to WoW right when Dragonflight launched two years ago was extremly fun and had me hooked on the game properly this time, I really think the best time to play the game is right when a expansion starts or a season starts. Everything is new and exciting and getting into the gear grind and pushing yourself to improve and conquer the hardest content you can do was, for me, the most fun. I try to play a new class every season to keep things fresh, and have since joined a guild I enjoy raiding with a couple times a week. Now I'm a Cutting Edge raider, having killed Mythic Fyrakk just a few weeks back :)
Hope you keep enjoying the game, hopefully as much as I have, and I can't wait to see more videos! :)
Nice video regarding your experience as a new player! I saw some similarities to my upbringing within the game, dating back to 2007, that I would like to give some insight/feedback on in hopes that it helps with familiarization.
1. The leveling experience was changed back in Shadowlands with the level squish (120 down to 60) where Blizzard allowed the player to level wherever and however they want vs going through all the old expansions (which was how you did it until that rework). This change was more in service to the veteran players at the expense of the new player experience. Best work around is to focus each area per alt you decide to level (if you want a not entirely 1 shot questing experience of each of the older expansions).
2. The ability/button bloat is a bit nuanced of an issue. YES for a new player it's extremely overwhelming because you get hit with a wave of abilities, half of which you do not use in PvE or without specific tier sets that boost them. Personally I like to have every possible ability per spec bound, being primarily a PvPer, which results in ALOT of keybinds (I think I use close to 60+). However you can really trim down on things to the barebones essentials by only binding "necessary" and rotational abilities, as well as utilizing the "known" conditional to write macros to allow spells to change based on your talent selection. Think how Dark Ascension changes to Void Eruption when you change the talent.
3. Regarding addons, their necessity and impact has not been overly required until the post - Warlords of Draenor time period due to the introduction of M+ and the increased difficulty of raiding creating an arms race with addon developers and game developers. As a personal recommendation to new players I recommend downloading "non-UI" addons that help provide awareness in combat (DBM, Weakauras, Gladius/Gladiusex/Sarena, BG Enemies, Bigdebuffs, and flyplatebuffs/Plater). Most of these addons will not ruin your interface when using them, meaning that you can focus on creating a solid UI foundation using Blizzard's Edit Mode and then use these types of addons as a sort of garnish to your gaming experience. Although each of these addons can be messed around with quite a bit to provide a tailored profile that works for you, all of these addons work almost perflectly with the baseline download.
Hope these 3 points help! Also if you need any feedback or guidance getting into PvP, feel free to reach out! Been a PvPer for many many many years, and I am always happy to help show "new" players the ropes, especially when things are quite a bit more complicated then they used to be.
I’ve been playing SoD on and off, but haven’t raided retail since Legions I reach max level and quit every expac now. When pug culture died around MoP that was the end for me. I can’t afford to schedule weekly raids due to real life constraints. I just want to turn on the game and play when I can and feel accomplished when I get off.
I typically spend my time inbetween major patches collecting things. Transmog, mounts. As a fairly new player who's been at it for 3 expansions, there is a giant backlog of things to collect.
Just recently I unlocked all of the allied races I was missing for the upcoming Pandaria Remix.
do you play alts while doing this or your favorite class?
@@moopliss It depends! When it comes to farming old raids for example I will use my druid specifically geared for speed. For newer content I stick to my main.
And for transmog I have a separate Mail and Cloth alt. I have even created alts to specifically get a single piece of transmog haha.
With the upcoming Warband however, the need for the separate alts kinda falls flat in regards to collecting though. I have already leveled a second druid in MoP:Remix that I'll be gearing for speed as well once The War Within releases but since weekly lockouts are still a thing, I'll continue using my alts albeit at a more efficient pace.
Stankylegs the real MVP !
The things I do to keep myself busy Is work on mount farms or achievements I've been wanting. Or class stuff and legion provides alot of fun class related things to get your class hall mounts that fly
finally someone who does these 'new player tries wow' videos right. in most videos the guys talk 95% about the levelling experience and it always ends in "i dont know what to do once max level so i uninstalled".
hah, thank you💪 i think it helps that i played other MMORPGs first before deciding to jump into WoW. gotta hand it to players in game and the community in general for helping me figure out what to do once i hit max level.
hey I loved this video! welcome to wow homie 🙏
appreciate it mr. pumpkin🎃 it's definitely been a journey so far.
been playing very sporadically since 2011, i enjoy doing raids and m+, but my true endgame enjoyment is to farm transmog, make my character look cute and then level up more alts so they can farm transmogs to look cute as well xD
I am 24 years old. I play WoW since 2004 and have accumulated around 36.000 hours /played across different characters and versions of the game, including Classic, Plunderstorm, Hardcore, Season of Discovery. I play the game just for fun. It has so much to offer to me. I leveled up all different classes, tried all different specs besides Feral Druid, Affliction Warlock, Frost Mage and Frost Death Knight, but I'll surely try those out as well. I have nearly played every zone and am currently only missing some Pandaria content. I tried out every profession and am currently leveling up all of them in every expansion. Yet there is still so much more for me to explore. I play games to experience them, to immerse myself in the world. I created myself in WoW and now I want to do every content it has to offer.
I did similar things with Dishonored, Minecraft, Sea of Thieves and several others. I want to get the full package out of my game. 100% me, 100% game. It's all about the game.
You've been playing since you were 4 years old?
@@tomaino3 Yes. :)
U have not played this game sense u where 4years old, who are u even trying to fool
@@jimmiekarlsson4458 I'm not asking you to believe it. Yet I'm not lying to you. My father played the game on release and I was very interested and curious, so I asked if I could join him and he got me a discounted computer that could run the game, got me an account and I joined him.
Not trying to be cheeky but are you autistic? You sound very much like one of my friends who has ADHD and is autistic.
cant wait for the almighty bald one to react to this one.
I take breaks to enjoy the game. And I limit my add ons to only those which purpose I cant live without
Im playing WoW for 16 years now. I had some breaks but all ways leaded back to Azeroth. I never played retail .. I consider myself as a boomer and its rly hard for me to get used to new things. I burned out about WoW after some high lvl deaths in HC mode and than SoD appears. I havent earned so much fun in game in years .. its absolutely amazing. Btw. we had similar parents about the christian things so i got u :D
i'd probably cry myself to sleep if a high lvl character was gone in HC. did you end up watching harry potter? 🪄
@@moopliss i was bad child .. playing Magic the Gathering and watching Harry Potter was my little secret.
You made all good points. For me, the biggest downside WoW has is the lack of gear permanence. I love so much of WoW, but having gear that gets COMPLETELY outdated over the span of a few months is really really annoying. I wish there was at least some level of horizontal gear progression across the entirety of one to two expansions, because then it would give us lots of time to enjoy being geared up, while still having new strong gear to go after.
re: your point about skills. Personally I find the lack of flavour skills on Gw2 I get bored to easy. Especially in games like ESO where you have loads of skills but can only choose like 4
I still play the game even after more than 10 years on and off but I think the part i enjoy the most is competing for top damage, healing, pulling big, and just seeing numbers and in general but I love raiding the most. World of warcraft is my favorite game ever since i started playing back in cataclysm. I guess I'll see you in the war within.
i'll definitely be there on launch day, which class will you play the new expansion with? ⚔
@@moopliss I think I'll play them all at one point or another. I'm a bit of an altaholic
İts like watching my brother, he looks like you a lot, nice and fun content, subscribed ❤
tbh getting new gear has always been the norm in WoW, it can seem like a slog, but when you get that juicy new gear, you feel empowered, your numbers start spiking and it gives you a dopemine rush. triggers those feel good centers in your brain like getting some sloppy toppy. lol and gear used to last a lot shorter amount of time before seasons were a thing, instead gear would be classified as old as soon as the new Raid Patch was ready for release, i think a lot of players are blind to that fact.
yooo mooopler!! :D learning every class is learning to counter every class, or at least learning all their spells to know when to counter them xD
despite what others say, addons really aren't necessary, its only important to those who tell you about them as they find certain aspects overwhelming. even a bg healer doesnt need addons :) (regardless of what people say under this comment XD )
that's a lot of spells to learn😵💫as for addons, i think i found the ideal ones that i personally enjoy.
I'm playing wow since 2005 and i love it :)
The funny part is, how he linked BM skill tree but you just keep 2 buffs up and don't overcap. Sub rogue mains will feel this
Been playing 17 years and I don't use addons anymore! I feel like it takes away a bit of the fun having to compare dps with addons.
exactly well i just use details for information but all other mechanics you dont need any addon, have some good coleographs, and for myric radint even we have a timer watch on the UI for watch that, when i play tera they say a good game dont need addons, addons just make the people lazy and they dont undestand the mechanics
I really like wow's incredible amount of skills. I prob would not play if it didn't have them. I think teaching new players the skills would be a better compromise.
This is a really well made video! Great editing! Keep it up 🙂
I'm always taking long breaks, I'll play for a few months and get really into chasing my IO score with M+, burn out then quit for a few months, when I''m playing it will easily take up 5/6 hours 7 days a week, some times I just stop M+ and do side quests and faction reps, Recently I've not played since getting KSM and will go back for MoP remix just because I want to see whats happening outside my room XP
every time you return to the game, are you always playing the same class or do you make new characters?
@@moopliss I'll try a new class at the end of an expansion, but rotate between my warrior, rogue and demon hunter while I'm doing end content. The funny thing is, the reason I first got hooked was leveling through the world, but like so many the dopamine hits of growing a number at end game has captured me XD
No one will boo you for unsubbing. People will celebrate you taking health into consideration. Worst thing about WoW players is how they tell me "sorry bro, I don't have time to check anything you recommend, because I am busy playing WoW".
I got to say i still love wow but i just can't stand the gear grind anymore. I played it from TBC to Pandaria like a mad man but after GW2 launched and it having its gear system it just never was the same and it was mostly the gear grind part.
I still play WoW from now and then but i never stick around more than maybe few weeks or a month i just dislike the grind part too much and raiding was never something i really enjoyed after they went away the 10/25 man raids and adding more difficulty levels was just nail in the coffin for me. M+ dungeon stuff i never even touched because i just have no interest at all for content that is run against the clock stuff.
About the addons. Personally as i don't raid only addons i have ever used are things like dps meter to show that i am actually doing even remotely the dps that i am supposed to do and sexymap so i can move the minimap to bottom right side of the screen as i hate the original spot of it other than that i have no idea or care what addons i would be supposed to use and i have played wow for 17 year like that.
thanks for sharing, i've heard from other WoW players that after they tried gw2, it was hard to go back to WoW.
Did the same with FF.. but having all classes on 1 character made me more or less never play WoW again... i log on and do my Trading post for the month and then i skip it... Warbands wont change my mind since i would rather be able to play all classes on 1 character and have plate gear be able to be used by characters that can wear plate... So good to have it simple. Played FF for 1 year and WoW since 2019. I regret not trying FF earlier.
Level up in legion instead of dungeon spamming great alternative with great rewards and gets you started on your way to your Artifact appearances. No addon is needed to enjoy the game DBM makes life easier and DPS meter to see your numbers in comparison to others are really the only things i use.
A very COMMON problem with PVP is the lack of attention blizzard gives it. the fact you need to grind out the PVP gear by PLAYING PVP... its a system where YOU LEGIT HAVE TO SPAM LOSE until you have enough currency to start getting gear in order to win
You can buy crafted green PvP gear from AH, and if you do Battleground Blitz you get ilvl scaled up. PvP has been getting more attention in Dragonflight than it had in I don't know how many previous expansions combined. We got an entire new rated mode that for all its problems has been a big win, and we're getting another new rated mode next expansion. PvP does have its problems, sure, but so does M+ and Raids, so far in DF PvP has been the healthiest it's been in a long, long time.
I actually recommend new Players to start in old starting zones, its much simpler to get the feel for the game
Retail is such a clusterfuck, I can't return to it.
your loss, it's been getting better with each patch since Dragonflight released.
lol whens the last time you played retail? Have fun in Classic 20 year old content or SoD where you run 10 minute loops for 10 hours.
@@gregjross852 Classic Andys i can never get, they talk big about how Vanilla to Wrath was the golden age, but yet who's on those servers now that the content is all released? just shows that "you think you do, but you dont." wasnt that much of a hot take.
You deserve a million subscribers.
maybe one day🥹 thank you!
Nice to see you're still around lol, hop on season of discovery
Amazing video man, very informative
appreciate you watching the vids🎬
I hate people saying you cant play wow without addons... anyway im not a mythic raid or dungeon lvl player, but i love doing current pvp and open world season content until i get all the collection sets that are available. I tried to do a rating pvp do get elite collection set but i only got to 1600 with my rogue and cant figure out a way to make it any higher. I guess rogues arent in pvp meta right now. But hey, i main rogue since 2016 and i love all the different specializations you can play and how distinctive they are. Sub rogue is my bet now , but assa is also a lot of fun.
Oh hey, I remember you. Neat you stuck around. One thing I'll tell you about addons -- It's best to be a minimalist. Too much addon usage degrades your cognitive abilities and situational awareness (a quote from the GM of the top guild). If you can do it with your brain, try to, you'll be better for it in the long run. Obviously this only applies to some, you can't really do a damage meter in your brain.
How do I keep wow fresh? Mostly it does that itself. WoW feels stale when you pidgeonhole yourself into a singular goal (EG: I must get the highest ilvl in raids). But when you actually enjoy all of it - The endgame, the lore, the world, the professions, the economy, the people you meet - It never really gets stale. If there's a long content drought then I just go do another game for a bit, but Dragonflight kept the patches going often enough that I never needed to.
God, your Scarlet replica its amazing!!! You make me remember good memories :')
for a newer player you have the most logical keybind setup ive seen in a while lol
guess i'm actually a smart cookie🍪 thanka mate.
I made it to 5:00 then he said "it's not like the older raids, there's actually a challenge". Dude didn't even try to play wow classic AT CONTENT w/ no nerfs. Heroic LK with no 30% buff is insane. I literally walked into a heroic raid on retail and was like - wooow look at how easy it is to avoid the clearly displayed no-no zone. sstep off.
Dude you are not saying that raids are easier now, I've played since tbc with multiple cutting edges and can assure you, the amount of mechanics being thrown at you, got exponentially more complex and punishing over time, mythic Archimonde was close to impossible without maddening amounts of addons to make it viable. When i went back to the raids in classic, they were piss easy, only thing that made it "hard" was other players that can't understand "fire bad".
Underrated video. I hope asmon sees this. It was nice of you to point out that your parents were loving and caring, and they brought you up properly instead of berating them because of the demon thing. People can have their beliefs but now you're an adult and you've been able to catch up and experience a lot of things for the first time which is awesome :)
Everyone has a different way of playing WoW which is very interesting overall, what i'd say you might be missing as a form of enjoyment from WoW is enjoying the combat maybe? From watching earlier videos and this one, you seem not to enjoy it much, not to say you should but if u could it would definitely elevate ur experience and maybe get u into M+ and more raiding, gearing just becomes a thing to aid you into harder content.
Also for PvP it's actually not been worked on for a while, they did promise to work on it in the next expansion cause they felt that they did them wrong, i still enjoy it, but expect to get brutally destroyed if you do try it.
I know a guy who quit playing after wrath because he was tired of regearing. With how WoW works your character will technically never get it’s best items because each new patch will increase the ilvl of gear you need. That’s basically never bothered me because that’s just been baked into the gameplay from the start and most of the time I can never get CE anyway so why even try to get my best gear for the tier?
I think something that helps with burnout though is either taking an entire season off of an expansion or not subbing until it’s the final patch of the expansion.
I see now you’re a gw2 player, idk if the gearing system is still the same but back in 2012 you got your best gear at max level quickly and then you just went after cosmetics i guess. Personally I like the progression of my character getting stronger patch to patch and when gw2 did the opposite of that it’s pretty much what made me quit the game after I hit max level. It just felt like I had nothing to do at endgame.
So I think it’s just different players feel differently about the playstyles tbh and WoW might just not be for you specifically because of that.
I would reccomend you experiment with alts. Mythic+ is really fun for experienced players I feel.
I do transmog runs, try all classes now and then, but number one thing is RP
been playing since bc. never needed an addon for anything but my very niche auction house needs.
People always keep coming back and I mean after 20 years its still the biggest mmo which is kinda crazy and a pretty popular game overall.
I think first thing they need to do is cater towards not only sweaty end game content like raids and m+ because a lot of players new ones especially just aren’t looking to endlessly grind to get a few item levels higher gear, it would be ok if those things where better fine tuned for more casual players because if you are chances are your ilvl is not so high and then you’re just gatekept from enjoying those things by sweaty neckbeards who won’t hold back to spew the most foul mouthed things at you just for accidentally pulling some extra mobs or not doing an interrupt at the correct time or whatever
over the years i've been hating addons more and more, games should be desinged to reduce the need for them completely. Atleast mechanicly, and maybe allow addons that change UI looks for example, but that's it.
Hey there is an Renoun XP bonus in Pluderstrom until May 1st when it stops ! It's going quite fast actually !
this is great news, perhaps i still have a shot to get all the rewards🏴☠
Yes many players are coming back for the xp bonus, glhf !!
time flies
you're telling me⌛ we're getting old.
Yes, the game has a lot of skills, but on average, most of them are irrelevant a large amount of the time. Average rotation in my experience is like 5-7 spells, then there's a smattering of situational items. I usually avoid the clutter by having my UI size reduced.
I've been playing off an on since 2008, I took a long break from 2011 to 2020 and lost my account so I had to restart from nothing. I spend most of my time doing professions. I like doing the quests and eventually want to do every quest in the game (which I had accomplished back in 2010), but I don't have as much free time now so I'm not sure if it will be possible before I retire.
is there sometime of in game achievement or title for doing all the quests? 🏷
@@moopliss Achievements and Titles. "The Lore Master" is for completing the main story quests in all zones. "The Seeker" was for completing 3000 quests back in 2008, I'm not sure if they have a new version of that based on the new quantity of quests.
Pretty interesting video. I feel like I'm the opposite, I like mythic+ over raiding because I feel like I have more control over my success. I hate I do the mechanics correctly but my raid vipes for hours people keep dieing to swirlies. In mythic+ failure is at least not hours but minutes.
i might dabble in mythic+ again, but i just felt like i was doing the same 2 or three dungeons over and over and over again😴
I am Level.60. Do I need an expansion to a dragonfly?
i believe so, yes🐉
Great video thank you
Whoah couldn’t click on this fast enough !
Have you played Diablo 2?
WoW leveling isn’t like ff14. Quest leveling (1-60) is much faster. Especially once you reach lvl 30 (flying mount)
I play wow like for one month at random and then forget it for half a year.
do you plan to ever play the game again? if not, then which MMORPG do you play outside of WoW?
as old player and i do m+ and m raid i dont use addons but details
So every class has 3 to 4 main attacks, everything else is situational.
The old expansions are best experienced through alts. Start a new character, and then use Chromie-time to select one of the old expansions to level until new content in. It's basically like a perma-timewalking for that character. You can still collect old transmog styles, but the zones level with you, so you're not out there one shotting everything.
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I don't know where you got that information where addons are forced on you. If that's your chat telling you to get addons, thats just your chat. Addons are never forced for you to play the game. They exactly what the name says. Add Ons. No addon is required at all.
addons are fine i love addons, just gotta learn it once and then its easy.
Played few hours of war within. Copy pasta is real in wow. And for old player back in day. Eve is my better half. Wow felt like I bought expansion hoping wow get better. Nope
Wow is tight
War Within is about to claim this guys soul.
Alt lovers rejoice, our age has come!
this man gets overwhelmed fast
Wow is a nice game but it burned me out. By the time, I got the proper gear it was already obsolete. Also the Higher Mythic players were so Toxic.
nah i feel ya when you do get burned out, it can happen. yeah the game SHOULDN'T NEED add ons to make the game more "enjoyable" the game has been out for years and it still needs to do better on it's UI and the like. I don't get why they just don't hire the damn people that do that sort of stuff from the add on communty... Just fawkin hire them and improve the UI already geezus. Yes there should be less buttons to press and it's kinda why i just stick with a bit more simple classes. Button bloat does suck but majority of mine are mounts/toys, buff pots, health pots, trinkets, macro stuff and Cool downs for the specific class ya playing that buffs it up more.
fingers crossed they make the game a bit more simpler over time🤞
To any player ever, I'd suggest to install an RP addon (mostly Total Roleplay 3) and to explore the RP scene in WoW, from the more dedicated to the less-so dedicated. Would strongly suggest avoiding the r34 side of RP.
Good job! And thanks for getting me addicted to Fortnite! :)
make sure you thank the bus driver🙏🚌
nice video ! regarding skills most classes have less than 10 rotational skills - then ofcause you have defensives and utility. But I don't you use the standard UI but can't you put moseouver over the action bars in the edit mode?
Dungeons are not the fastest way to level, just the laziest way.
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Christian parents.... plays S-Priest! Nice
U had me going alright i can understand your opinion, till you got to spells. The specs you played in this video is some of the specs with most button bloat the hunter you showcased u literaly threw passive spells that you will never press and other buttons on there to fill it out, you even put some things twice thats just disingenuous, most classes/specs have around 7-8 spells they use and then maybe some cooldowns on the side.
Dungeon leveling is not the fastest and if you thought it was to hard to understand what your spells did while doing them. Then take a few minutes between the dungeons and read what the spell does or you know just dont spam dungeons?
besides that decent video though those 2 things really just felt like nit picky.
i like the honesty and appreciate the comment🙏 you are right, i did sprinkle in some passive skills in there, but i think some players might not read everything and could end up in a similar situation. even without passive skills, i think the game might have too many skills to juggle.
either that, or i need to learn which skills are important, and leave the rest outside of my skillbar🤷
@@moopliss The only way to really know what you should use and not use is by trial and error. Sadly there is no proper way that doesnt require 3rd party stuff to know what you should press and what is a waste of time, guides and addons fix those things but it should be built in the game for sure.
personally i dont like reading spells but it is the best way to learn new classes without looking up a guide explaining everything for you
10 total skills (abilities), including utility and defensives?? lol.... no. 10 abilities would kill the game for everyone who enjoys challenging/competitive pve and pvp.
The combat in wow is the best in any mmo ever made, and it's not even close (I have played almost every mmo ever made for extensive periods of time). The idea of the 10 ability thing (started by that muppet Asmonwhogivesaf$ck) is asinine and has never been even close to the reality of the game since its inception. It's also not hard to learn a class. I had to learn Evoker like everyone else and with a little logic and some critical thinking I had the basics down in less than a day and knew my whole kit in a couple days (and I have an atrocious memory).
You can play the game perfectly fine (I have at various times in the games life) without a single addon. Not having addons would make the game markedly worse. There are so many addons improve the quality of life, addons that don't even have anything to do with combat. Killing addons would also kill accessibility options for those that are deaf and hard of hearing as well as colorblind people; which is reason alone why addons will never, ever go away. Blizzard does need to do a better job, and they have this expansion, of making the base raid warnings better and boss mechanics easier to see. As for combat, you don't need a single addon to play your character at all but the very highest of levels (the .1%).
The reason you need pvp gear for pvp and pve gear for pve is for a couple reasons; it gives the devs a tuning nob that can be tuned for that game mode specifically and it prevents pvp'ers from having to do pve content for gear and vise versa.
wow isn't developed with new players as a priority. It hasn't been in a decade at least (if ever). They develop the game for the player base it already has and with an eye on returning players (at least retail isn't). New players are a bonus. The new player experience could be better, as it stands it's pretty confusing but they are making strides to make it better.
I agree 10 is not enough, I think 20-24 would be the sweet spot. I think the issue with bloat that I have is some abilities just do not feel good to press and are merely a prop and modifier. You can see with demon hunter and evoker they have learned from it.
It is so damn hard for me to recommend this game to almost anyone. The game is based purely on the treadmill now, the leveling before the endgame exists to be completed as fast, efficiently and easily as possible with no soul, wonder, exploration or difficulty whatsoever.
Those two things in tandem, break this game so hard...
I played quite a lot during the covid lockdowns. What was really fun for me was going through old expansions and doing achievements and collecting mounts. I played WoW back in vanilla and it was all really nostalgic.
But now that I have gotten the mounts I wanted and did the achievements I wanted to do, I find it almost impossible to play the current expansion. The reputation grind is endless and as soon as you get good gear, a new patch hits and it is all useless. Dragonflight was worse for me than Shadowlands. The theme just felt childish.
@@LalaDepala_00 I know, there's no gravity or weight to anything. Think to the wotlk cinematic and compare that to the literal entire DF storyline
lol you evidently never tried to fight a Rare Mob, ever since Pandaria the Rare Mobs of the overworld have had Dungeon Boss type of Mechanics. also you're free to explore at your leisure, nobody's fault that you dunno how to hop off the treadmill. "git gud"
Thats more so on the players. Season of Discovery phase 3 has proven players will always go the least difficult fastest way to endgame rather then the more tiresome route of exploring.
@@Dramn_ The DF story is not trying to do that… You are comparing a finale of a decade long build-up to an almost-filler arc that's trying to figure out the post-wars world and how to continue story-telling after the Jailer crashed and burned (it). Like, I'm not into the story either, didn't have goosebumps in any cinematic for the first time, but the comparison is just useless. Come back in 6 years and compare, I have no idea if it will be good, but at least that's closer to an apples to apples comparison.
A year in ? Still very much a new player.
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what you calim as hair
is infested with bugs / bug poop
bactria to whipe out an small county
Not funny man. He is an adult and chose his own hairstyle. Leave him alone and worry about yourself.
I refuse to use addons , fight me people lol .
You are obviously not a new player. Due to the fact that new players don’t have access to old starting zones.
🚨i've been caught 🚨 (i much prefer the old starting zones compared to new starting zone)
Given what JKR has been up to, maybe its for the best you didn't get invested in Harry Potter.
Yeah she is a pretty awful person but if you don't want to support her there is always the option of sailing the high seas.
@@supersoaker317 Not really, especially given as she cares more about the clout than about money. The only way to not support her is if you don't contribute to Harry Potter having any relevance, which means pirating won't solve the issue.
Besides after everything she has said and done, making you side eye some of the stuff in her books, how can it not turn to ash in your mouth?
@@thenerdbeast7375 personally I've never read or watched anything related to Harry Potter except I did play lego Harry Potter for like an hour once
Not a fan of retail in its current dsy. Far too bloated. No idea of the over world story or lore. It needs a brand new single player experience where you speed though the dungeons and raids like a time walking.