Ian Thorpe Wishes Michael Phelps Was A Little Bit Older
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- Опубликовано: 5 июн 2020
- From Episode #044 of INSIDE with BRETT HAWKE featuring IAN THORPE
The Thorpedo talks about his greatest rival: Pieter van den Hoogenband
And, perhaps the one that got away: Michael Phelps
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Thorpe retired at the age of 24 years old I heard, because he had a lot of things going on in his life and couldn't handle the pressure I read. So if he went another 4 years at the next Olympics, I think there would have been some really good races between them both.
He's only talking about same age head to head.
He had 0 competitors and was only competing against himself, he was so dominant in the pool he would do 1 event and then 20 min later jump back in the pool to do another and win by a long way, he said he quite because of the lack of competition, the loneliness, he was suffering from depression and he’s gay and couldn’t be out in Australia at the time.
Phelps swam until 32, Thorpe swam until 24 .... The reason they haven't competed each other much is the early retirement of Thorpe.... Not Phelps' age.
It really shows what a great competitor he was and how much respect he had for his piers. He always was my inspiration and I wished I got to swim alongside him.
That would be great to have them both longer.
Ian Thorpe retired so young... had he continued swimming he could have raced phelps for many years
Love this guy
I think he realised the 4 am start training everyday ! He didn't need that anymore ! 😭😭😭
3 years older. What’s he talking about
didnt VDH swim a 3:46 400m
Haha he said it rite .. "be careful what you wish for"..
Phelps single handedly dominated that 200m free the following Olympics and even broke the damn WR. imagine he was as old as Thorpe then and was at his prime. I wouldn't go that far if I were you Thorpe haha
Thorpe is only 2 years older than him though
"Ian Thorpe wishes he hadn't won the 200m freestyle in Athens"
yea idk why he would want Michael to be closer to him in age lol. Thorpe is a historic legend but Phelps picked up the 200 free and ran down Thorpes WR within a single olympic cycle.
@@user-em4wh5ji3w times isn't the point at all, Agnel textile 200 free WR is .72s faster than Phelps'. The point is winning races.
@@toivonencresto lmfao and he wants to pick a fight with the greatest racer of all time? Only reason Thorpe and Hoogenband won in 04 was because Mike had just only picked up the 2 free that year and was still not matured physically. A year or two older and Phelps would have had that race.
@@user-em4wh5ji3w I don't know if you're a Phelps fan boy, but you simply cannot compare Phelps and Thorpe in freestyle. Bowman also said that Ian was stronger than him in freestyle and relays events. Phelps got DESTROYED by Biedermann in 2009, had Thorpe raced during supersuit era Phelps should had got humiliated. He's the best of all time but Thorpe was simply stronger than him in freestyle event, period. And please stop with the thing "he was this he was that", Phelps already was "Phelps" in Athens.
Wow you must be an Ian Thorpe fan. You statement applies to yourself.
What?
He's only 2 years older than phelps. Phelps 23 vs. Thorpe 25 is prime time in 2008 Olympics. Your peak age as an athlete is between 23-27. Thorpe was good, but Phelps is the greatest. Mike even has the article in his locker in Beijing that stated from Thorpe he could'nt get 8 gold medals to break Mark Spitz record.
Phelps is the GOAT. Ian was quite jealous of it. Before 2008 Olympics, Thorpe said Phelps would not even equal Spitz record (7). Later when Phelps was peaking, Thorpe changed his tune and said Phelps cannot beat Spitz record (8). Phelps used this as motivation.
Hadn't Ian retired and had a full and adeguate training Phelps should had NEVER won the 200 free in Beijing and, given the superswimsuit era, now we'd probably have had 3.35 and 1.40 range (UNBEATABLE) WR in 200 and 400 free.
he got dusted in 2003 championship by Phelps in the 200IM, Phelps beat him by 4 seconds. He knew Phelps was the real deal and retired. If he was that good, why didn't he go to Beijing to shut everyone up. Nonetheless, shut down Phelps 8 gold medal bid. In 2008, Thorpe would have been 25 and Phelps is 23.........that would have been a clash of the titans. Pieter van den Hoogenband is 5 years older than Thorpe, and 7 years older than Phelps.
Thorpe Olympics: 2000, 2004
Phelps Olympics: 2000, 2004, 2008, 2012, 2016
in the end, he gypped everyone of watching the two go h2h. I would bet in the 200 freestyle at 2008 olympics, phelps to dust him by 1 second easily. Thorpe had motivation, his motivation was to stop Phelps from going for 8 Golds...
Cmon...you cannot even compare these two athletes.
So what happened in 2004 when Thorpe beat him at the Olympics at the 200?
Why you salty anyway? Thorpe is showing heaps of respect here wanting the challenge of the best.
@@adamsmyth2034 then why did he retire at such a young age? He was 25 in 2008, Beijing Olympics
@@adamsmyth2034 what happened in 2004?" funny you mention that. As I just finished reading Ian Thorpe's 2014 autobiography "This Is Me". and straight from his mouth in the book, he finally admitted after years of speculation that his Adidas bodysuit he refused to compete without after 99, was a different version and material than what was made available to other olympic athletes for sale to them at a much lower price. His was a special designed, co developed $20,000 body suit that could only be wore once each race then discarded, and according to his own testing gave him a minimum half second advantage in the 400m. Which is about a quarter second in the 200, about what he beat Phelps by that day. And of the 8 swimmers on the starting block that day in 2004, only once person was wearing a $20,000.00 Adidas, one time use only, full bodysuit.
Adam SMYTH Wasn’t Phelps only 19.
Exactly phelps was young and bot in his prime then. He was till good. But in 2008 phelps would have bear Thorpe. In Beijing 2008 phleps was on another level. I mean look at the world records he set.
No shade on Thorpe. Shame he retired. Only he knows ifnit ws mental health or feared phleps. Or the suit thing. Anyway in Beijing 2008. Didn't need Thorpe anyways. What phelps was doing was a very rare one off. With 8 golds.
Thorpe as good as you were. Phelps was better.
Phelps in A Realm all his own. Thorpe was a quick flash that was tarnished by that Super suit.. inflated his times...to see him in a suit like everyone else in 2004. Not sure he would have won .. Greatest free stroke ever but tarnished and inflated by that suit...
@@cyrussalmassi7118 It's not only the length of the suit he wore in question. but its properties and his stern insistence he would only compete if he were allowed to wear it and defense of it. If you read Thorpe's autobiography, he states that he had a custom co developed version of that bodysuit that was made only available for him to wear in his contract with Adidas. No one but him ever received an identical one to examine. His special version Adidas bodysuit swim suit cost $20,000 and could only be wore once per Competition. Adidas made several versions available for sale to other athletes, none even close in price to his. Even the 2008 Speedo "plastic" as you call them suits which were the Speedo Lzr suit, cost $550.00 to the athletes when they came out.
you clearly know nothing about swimming.
@@toivonencresto Seriously. I am pretty sure Thorpes wore a speedo when he set 400 m free record in Perth circa 98 and 99.
edit: That was the Pan pacific.
@@bobbillings thats him bigging himself up with the money figures. His suit was trash. It was more of a marketing tool than anything and the all black made his stroke look more amazing than it actually was
@@nickbaker3588 I'll stick to his narrative, you can stay with yours.
That statement kinda sounds gay out of context, no offense
Pls. He retired at 21. What a baby! At 24 going into 2008 Olympics. He would be in hia prime. He knew all along Phelps was greater than him. He gypped everyone of this show down and himself!
Why are you so pressed lol
He in an interview that the reason he quit was he felt that his career wasn’t his own
He retired at 24 after 2 long bouts of illness and a serious shoulder injury that would later require surgery. He eventually had doctors worrying about his ability to lift his arm over his head, let alone continuing a swimming career.
It’s unfortunate that he didn’t compete into his late 20’s, but I think it’s deeply unfair to say that he was dodging Michael. He was a great talent that ran into a long string of terrible luck health-wise.
Gimme a break! Two of Phelps Beijing victories were extreme luck (100 fly and 4x100 freestyle). Another couple golds were also not individual. Thorpe was ex tra or di nar y!
@@rubenscunha2299 hahaha you clearly show you've watched alot of swimming son
Ja ja ja that's funny Ian. If Phelps would be older, you would not earn the same number of medals..
Thorpe look so gay or soft boy