This Will NEVER Happen Again || The WORLD RECORD That Will Stand Forever (G.O.A.T Athlete)
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- Опубликовано: 22 апр 2024
- One of track and field's greatest athletes also has one of the greatest stories.
Born as the son of javelin-throwing parents, Jan Železný was practically destined to be a star of this challenging athletic discipline. From the Olympic Games, to the World Championships, to the highest marks ever recorded in this event, Železný has forever cemented his legacy as quite possibly the greatest javelin thrower to ever live.
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19:10 You didnt mention it but even though he retired at the age of 40 he finished 3rd at his last WCH in Göteborg and I will add just one comparison - Zelezny threw over 90m 52 times, everyone else in the history combined together threw over 90m 32 times. That's just pure greatness !
Technically, Gothenburg 2006 was the European championships, not the world championships.
Not taking away from the amazing feat of doing that at the age of 40, though.
If those stats are real I’m absolutely gob smacked.
So about 2/3 of the 90m+ throws ever achieved belong to this one guy?
That's /really/ freaking hard to argue with.
this year Vetter has overtaken Zelezny in 93/94m+ throws.
@@patheddles4004 Zelezny has 34 90m+ throws, which is nearly 1/3 of the total 90m+ throws. In terms of events, with a 90m+ throw, it is 28 to 22 for Zelezny.
Audience: "Zelezny's competing? Yeah I'll take a seat behind the competitors please."
"Half time! Changing sides!"
When it's safer to take a seat closer to the javelin thrower
@@thomasholmes4669 lol
I was a Decathlete training in Ostrava, Czech Republic in 2000-2001 and I remember we couldn’t do our warm up laps around the 400m track when Železny was throwing because apparently he actually overthrew the sector and stuck a Javelin in the surface of the track, well over 100m. It was unreal to watch him practice.
lmao imagining practicing your throw and sniping some guy on the sprint track 100 meters away.
*points to someone on the opposite side of the field* "See that guy? Watch out lol, he's gonna snipe you"
@@zerotwoisreal Tero Pitkämäki threw his javelin through a French(?) athlete who was prepping for his long jump. I think the javelin went through his liver, but he made it out alive. This happened in an official competition.
@@janbo8331 ya know what I would do? I would aim.
Wow! that is a fantastic personal detail. Thanks for sharing it.
It’s true I was the javelin
Zelesny has to be the greatest of all time due to the fact he threw with every different instruments in the sports history. They kept changing the javelin on him, and he still smashed world records and what they thought was humanly possible. This guy is a legitimate goat.
I don't think many other athletes have had to deal with the amount of nonsense this guy did. They literally erased his world records by changing the game, and he kept setting new ones with the new instrument.
Absolutely - And deservedly a well earned title : The GOAT 🐐
I wonder why didn't they hold a just for show, no record validation, event at his prime time with no people nor athletes at the landing zone, where he could throw with that instrument after which they first changed construction. To be measured. I mean, that would be just unbelievable.
@@brunesi Probably they would have lost the javelin. 🤣🤣🤣
really doesn't make any sense to follow the "logic" operating on those that keep hindering this discipline to be going on opposite direction to FUNCTION in goals to achieve, more distance throws. Like would they make shorter the poles for vault jumpers so they can keep off reach to many meters less, or add dust or sand on tracks so the running races "don't go so fast"????? etc
It just does not make any sense at all
What would be next, make them throw with straws weighting nothing in the air?
WHO are these people making such changes?
What parameters of "logic" or off Logic do they operate under? Fair is fair, but they seem to have placed a butt cheek on the balance to tilt that Sport, hindering it.
Zelesny had the greatest 'whiplash' delivery ever -- magic
Zelezny in Czech language means “made of iron”. Fits perfectly.
or "Ironborn" like Greyjoys from Iron Islands...
Means the same thing in Russian, curiously enough. Slavic language similarities, I guess.
Zhelezo (noun) - iron.
Zhelezni (adjective) - made of iron (masculine). Zheleznaya (feminine). Zheleznoye (neutral).
This dude was unbelievable, regardless.
I hate how they "disqualified" his early records because the "governing body" hadn't "approved" the implement being thrown. What a pile of bull💩.
Sanctioned events, sanctioned rules, sanctioned everything. Yet as soon as the guy shatters the world record, they gasp and unexpectedly realize they handed him an "unsanctioned" and "unverified" jav.
These judging tůrds should be laid out on the ground at 90-meter mark next time. Perhaps they'll sanction everything pertaining to javelin throw more thoroughly, including the javelin 😹
Looks like he was made of Gold to me.
Thcekoslovak method:Love the Earth,Earth give you extention😌
This comment makes him even more badass then i realised lmao
He use his whip technique but never dislocated his shoulder means that his form is just literally perfect because if your form is slightly of, your shoulder would certainly popped out with that much force.
Or other kinds of injury besides the back pain
Yup. Knee and hip issues are common as well from planting force.
After making his commitment to never fault out again I could see he would plant that left foot at the end of the throw like a demon. Man, the force on that leg all the way up the body! Knock out a regular bloke's fillings.
I think you're skipping the fact that his ulner collateral ligament survived his training let alone his actual competition throws!!! I think it's measured that a 5 oz baseball pitched at 95 mph is something like 800 lb of force put onto that tiny ligament hence us knowing the injury repair as "The Tommy John Surgery" after the first pitcher to successfully receive the surgery and make a come back.
Amazing
Fun fact: Jan Zelezny trained Barbora Spotakova and she also has WR in javelin since 2008
At that time her coach was Rudolf Černý. Železný followed in 2010
He also trained World champion Vitezslav Vesely and World Championship bronze medal holder Petr Frydrych.
I just loved watching him. A legend.
Met him at our local track when I was a kid, he was promoting athletics throwing events for schools. He did a few throws of at least 80m, I got his autograph on my t-shirt. Amazing
Cool👍
Athletes throwing events typically would mean taking a dive to win big gambling
@@BOB67666 why the long face
@@BOB67666 just because it didnt happen to you dosnt mean it didnt happen. Grow up and learn to keep scrolling
Lucky bastard
Me at the beginning: "Javelin, I've heard of it..."
Me at the end: "Zelezny is the all time greatest and I'll fight any fool who says otherwise "
😂😂😂
"You Don't Know Anything About Javelin" Would Be The Best Argument
Janis Lusis was better - was winning more consistently just failed 1cm in olympics
Lol 😆
@@marcismucenieks5687 Whoo is it?
That man was a phenom...and he was little bit small in comparison to the other Athletes. It's more than brute strength in Javelin. Jan is the G.O.A.T forever and ever
This world record is insane. It has 1365 points according to world athletics, which is the highest of any male WRs. That is equivalent to running the 100m in 9.55 sec!!!
The Usain Bolt of Javelin! Or otherwise?Bolt the Zelesny of 100m?
"The freak of nature" Mission Brief blew out a 1:50.3 October 2nd 2014 at The Red Mile as a two year old filly trotter.
That record could stand 50 years or more.
How he never hyperextended a knee or threw out his shoulder is just incredible.
Would be interesting to know what kind of training program he had in the gym. I assume lot's of shoulders.
If I throw something at peak power I definitely hurt my shoulder
He probably did both many times, and worked through it with PT and willpower. Lots of athletes give themselves horrible long term damage by "playing through the pain". If it was worth it to him, then good, I say. He seemed to love the sport.
@@ANMS.cyberpunk and he was disgustingly good at it too. goddamn
The human body is pretty well designed to throw
Zelezny retired in 2006 and started coaching. I heard in 2008 during a winter training camp he got frustrated at the athletes he was coaching and threw a javelin over 85 meters as an example how it is done. What a legend.
Is that a true story?
@@Meritokratiabest still impressive
@@CanadianBoardCrew Absolutely!
And then he raised Olympic and World championships and Diamond league winners as coach.
🤣🤣🤣
This is an incredible testament to the longevity of determination that this extraordinary man possessed.
As a Czech person I highly appreciate how well you learned to pronounce his name. ❤️
"This whole javelin thing may in fact present real safety concerns"
Wow, who would've thought that a competition involving tossing a throwing spear might be dangerous.
The surprise wasn't that a pointy thing would be dangerous, that's always been known. The surprise was that a throw would be 5 meters beyond the existing world record at the time.
@@bpj1805 Which shouldn't have been surprising, given what we know of Human adaptability and improvement.
I wonder what incidents occurred that they had to make those javelin changes.
I remember a clip with an official catching a javelin with his torso...if I remember correctly he threw the marker down wher it should have fallen...with the javelin sticking out of him.
What made him so good is he was probably aiming at the people at the end of the track.
When they change the rules on an individual not once but twice because he is so much better than anyone else, and he still dominates that's greatness.
Technoblade be like
They did that in the K1 twice for Bob Sapp against Ernesto Hoost. Hoost is the 4 time world gp champ. Sapp has lost his last 20 fights lol
But ultimately if you put the sport itself in perspective (as in how many people actually try to compete professionally) say vrs running or swimming where far more people participate in it. I mean it not easy to practice the sport safety or properly like having a marked field in a stadium you can practice in. It’s a very impressive record and story but for me as less people are involved in the sport the odds are far higher that you could rise above the competition (as there is less of it) than say running/sprinting. So sprinting for me is still No.1 and the most famous all time greats are still those in sprinting or long distance running.
Yeah n a slap on the face of biased regulations, i mean this was God gifted huh, ....the man was made to achieve greatness in this particular discipline!
@@sam-kid still, the person to actually do with the javelin, what it was made for, is Pitkamekki. He pierced it into a guys liver if i remember correctly
I never thought I would watch a 20 minute video on a single javelin throwing champion lol was pretty interesting
The following table also show the uniqueness of Jan Železný in javelin throwing. Since the change in the type of javelin to date, 118 javelin throws have been longer than 90 meters and were thrown by 20 athletes. Jan Železný threw 34 throws over 90 meters. Next behind him, Johannes Vetter (the only one approaching him) has 20 throws over 90 meters. Only the two of them threw over 94 and 97 meters, respectively.
javelin
throws
over 90 m Athlete's name The longest javelin throw
34 Jan ŽELEZNÝ 98,48
20 Johannes VETTER 97,76
8 Aki PARVIAINEN 93,09
7 Tomas RÖHLER 93,90
7 Andreas THORKILDSEN 91,59
6 Raymond HECHT 92,60
6 Tero PITKÄMÄKI 91,53
5 Sergej MAKAROV 92,61
5 Andreas HOFMANN 92,06
3 Konstantinos GATSIOUDIS 91,69
3 Vadims VASIĻEVSKIS 90,73
2 Julius YEGO 92,72
2 Steve BACKLEY 91,46
2 Breaux GREER 91,29
2 Magnus KIRT 90,61
1 Chao-Tsun CHENG 91,36
1 Kimmo KINNUNEN 90,82
1 Seppo RÄTY 90,60
1 Boris HENRY 90,44
1 Keshorn WALCOTT 90,16
I guess everyone before the change due to Hohns 104 m is not in the list. It is diiffcult to compar ethe two spears and that is what may be should have done. Analyse the difference and come to a scientific estimation of what the 104,52 m of Hohn woul dhave meant. As it is, no one threw a spear further than Hohn. I was very young when Hohn threw it but it never left my mind. 104+ metres....Zelezny, Bubka and some I must have forgotten are so good because they dominated the sport for so long. So people can do better these days o rin the future but it will be very difficult to keep up over more than a decade like these guys did.
@@Serenoj69the spear wasn't redesigned because of Hohn, it was redesigned to plant firmer into the ground, fly shorter and in more of an arc with it's center of gravity shifted, it was designed to prevent accidents.
It is very simple to compare Hohn and Zelezny, you look at how much further they threw compared to all other athletes competing against them, in this regard, there is no comparisson.
Vetter might change that some day.
But as it stands, nobody will ever break Hohn's record, as it had been retired and is unchanging, it is an eternal record.
I like how, in so many of the shots we see, there are people standing at the far end of the range completely oblivious to the fact that a very long sharp object is hurtling straight toward them at 100 miles per hour.
And imagine that they didn't change the javelin's specs ,he would have easily hit them most of the time.
@@hansdavis7335 Darwin says let them die.
I recall one mishap, but it was due to the throw landing too much to the side, off sector. Hit a long jumper on the side of his torso. I wonder if they changed the design of the stadium after that. Would reckon so, or at minimum the scheduling to not have an event take place at the same time on the side. Video, pretty scary: ruclips.net/video/JhT30Ov41_s/видео.html
Somone has to of gotten impelled at an event in history.
@@MC_ToyDawg Actually happened quite a few times, i remember one thrower accidentally threw to the left side out of bounds and hit someone on the back. One hit a field personnel on the jaw. And another one on a judges left arm.
Let me point out the mythical significance of being able to throw over 90m ONCE in your career.. Zelezny did it every year for a decade.
NOBODY CARES!
@@AKFF320 about you?
@@AKFF320 Man you are jealous, a very common trait for American so i guess you are American right?
@@Jop3lius Irrelevant point, you're already desperate.
@@matthewmea3566 Irrelevant tears, have a napkin.
Salute to Zelezny, Czech 🇨🇿. From India 🇮🇳
we are sou proud, he is a legend here and yet so humble man willing to have a conversation any time.. he helped so many athletetes all over the world wanting nothing.. good luck to your champion, regards from🇨🇿
I cannot believe how much I enjoyed this video about an amazing, world best, athlete. I had no prior knowledge of him or his accomplishments. Now, I look forward to sharing this video with family and friends. The narrator is excellent, and I look forward to seeing more of his work!
never gave a hoot about javelin throwing until now, but got chills right at the end. You, dear friend, are an excellent story teller!
Me too
Totally, I rarely care about any sport but this vidio was watched all the way through, super awesome Jan and a great vidio a out him!
You should commend yourself for being so logical too.
Kudos.
too bad hes a doorknob
Yeh i felt this too
Just when you finally think he’s going to tell you about his best throw, he goes on to start a different story.
This guy is the epitome of "But wait! There's MORE!"
At a certain point one realizes they should just go read the wiki about Jan instead of wasting more time waiting for this video to stop teasing
@@Quantris Everybody's a critic. If you don't like the presentation style, that's perfectly fine, but it's unfair to say that it's a waste of time to watch the video when you have enough time to complain about it.
@@Quantris That's exactly what I did.
@@Gilsworth I think it's amusing how so many people feel the need to defend other people from criticism just cause...no reason really.
His criticism is valid. It's not a personal attack. IF I made videos I'd want to see comments telling me what didn't work to improve my content.
The very basics of informative writing is minimalism. Of course, there can be some flair in documentary style content like this, but minimalistic and well structured content is the priority. More importantly, however, he brings this criticism on himself for his bait. He baits in the title and tries to retain viewership by constant teasing the 'next big reveal'. That's not style. We don't benefit from that. Only he does. So people complaining about that is only fair. Actions have consequences.
Thank you for this. I kind of knew he was the best, but just how good was this guy? Undoubtedly one of the world's greatest athletes. I remember his achievements but didn't realise just how much better than all the rest the guy actually was ... and still is.... any athletics world record that has stood for 26 years should make you take some notice. Respect JZ.
What a legend! He is GOAT no doubt. Best thing of him is how humble he is whole his life.. great person ❤
I can never get over the fact that that standing world record throw looked like it was easy compared to many other of his throws. Like he really didn't put that much into it, the technique was so pure.
Also looked like he was quite far behind the line in case he stumbled.
@@scopie49 and thats where you wonder what he could have gotten, if he didnt have to worry about the line
This is what Bruce Lee talked about an practiced.
@@scopie49 I was thinking the same thing, Im not an expert at all on the sport but, maybe putting extra force in causes you to need extra room to land on your hands? That's 1 thing I noticed about some of these. But it's stil possible he could have got 100. Imagine if he was in Colorado with the thin air, he could maybe have even broken the old pre 1984 record that is now not counted!
@@MoneyHoneyBunny He stays so far behind the line because he's worried about fouling. Despite the perfect form he sometimes does get tripped up and stumbles after the throw. So he's safely behind the line just in case but also sacrifices his total distance. It adds a level of technical skill to be required to throw behind the line but his actual throw was much further than recorded. That's what I find impressive. Breaks a record that could have been like 1m further.
Imagine being blown off a castle wall by a pole traveling at 100 MPH.
Haha that made me laugh
He's a Czech
Probably easily over 100 MPH with an optimized javelin
Meliodas threw it🤣🤣
It's enough to make Achilles blush.
never thought a video about a Javelin Thrower would have any kind of impact on me, since i dont really care about this sport, but what i saw here, was just incredible...23 years of dominance never ever achieved in any sports...this is so freakin impressive...
Brilliant to watch this. I threw the javelin in high school. I have lots of respect for what Jan Zelezny achieved 💜🏆
As a discus thrower in high school, I can't imagine throwing a javelin so far. I played with the javelin, and it seemed impossible. GOAT is right
Same here. Ryan Crouser is a beast too.
That he could complete at that level into his 40s in a sport that puts that much stress on your back makes him the top candidate for greatest genetics ever.
Tom Brady makes this guy look like an amateur.
@@garrysekelli6776 Throwing a football is a lot less stress on your back than throwing a javelin though lmao
@@garrysekelli6776 Stooopid comment! NOBODY makes this man look common! Brady is THE GOAT quarterback without doubt. However, ask him to throw a javelin. Brady will agree Zelezny is the GOAT Javelin thrower. Show respect or lose respect.
reminds me of Maldini, Ac Milans most loyal player. He was in italian squad for long too, he was able to play both left and right side, defense and midfield, since Milan had two great left wingers, he usually was on the right, but sometimes they swapped sides too. with that strategy, the two wingers went up, 4 midfielders on center in diamond shape, no wingers, the righ midfielder Gatusso went back and Pirlo went up a bit instead, controlling pace on center. So basically from a 4-4-2 switched into a 2-1-5-2. The attack phase was high tempo switch on sides and long crosses, so the wings needed huge stamina and speed for that, and then go back to defense. Maldini at 40 was still outplaying real madids players, lasting the whole game while they had to swap out one of the defenders because couldn't keep up.
@@garrysekelli6776, come back when they make 5+ iterations minimum of the football to make it so you can't throw it as far.
Absolutely stunning video about one of the greatest athlete. The very best. Highly appreciated!!!
Fantastic I watched this man in every Olympics and commonwealth games great memories and world records being broken live on TV there will never be another like him great video TFS best wishes Phil UK England 👍
Managed to make a tonne of people care about this man's achievements. That's good video work, man!
There is 795 likes and I am the first comment
I am second
Remember shouting at the telly with my granddad that was pure magic. Thanks for the work. Much appreciated. Couldn't be prouder.
What’s a “tonme”?
Y6 as
Am I the only one that sees that the proper answer to how to avoid people getting hit with a javelin is to not stand in the direction that they are being thrown
Yes! 😂
For real, imagine if shooting sports were judged like that.
The issue is just that they only have so much space. No matter what you do there's always going to be people down range unless there's just a gap in the stadium and nobody builds a stadium like that for major events. They also can't just rely on a net like football does because they need to be able to measure the distance to where it lands. So they're stuck having to have a field contained by bystanders on all sides that just becomes unmanageable if they need like 150m of space.
Imagine changing the weight of a standard football, basketball, baseball etc. It's so unfair for the atheletes training for so long.
@@akshaydalvi1534 They've changed basketballs and footballs many times. In fact, different leagues use different balls.
Jan Zelezeny The man is a legend in my eyes he was the best ever javelin thrower in the sports history even those records which were taken aay from him.The sport committee tried to change the style of javelin for safety reasons!yet Jan Zelezeny kept on throwing and beating his own records these records will never be beaten.23 years he gave the sport before he retired....
I love hearing about niche sports, just watched the shot put video you did and now I’m watching this. Absolutely love someone shining shining a light on sports people don’t think about a lot. I wouldn’t consider myself a sports fan unless I learn about as many sports as I can. Your video style and explanations makes it interesting and easy to understand how impressive these feats are. Hats off to you man, what a great and comprehensive explanation that is so easy to get and really gripping. You love sports and I love that as a viewer. 10 out of 10 video.
Athletics is a niche sport? Where do you live my man? 😄
Being the best is one thing. Being the best for twenty years is a whole other thing.
Tom Brady level
If he still used the old javelin it wouldn't be a range competition.
*It would be Target Shooting at that point*
TBH, I'd love it if they did both. It'd definitely make it more interesting to watch
Great comment. Thanks for making me laugh out loud :)
That’s a 110 meter bullseye!
I’m going to go to the local vet for the eye I promised the bull.
Yeah I’m not sitting near the final bend for that one 😬
That is the most enjoyable, remarkable, SUPER human " I wouldn't believe it, if I hadn't of seen it with my own eyes" continuous titanic effort I've ever seen from a sportsman, an absolute natural, untouchable for so long. Thank You so much, I watched it twice. Cheers Kev
Fascinated by this outstanding athlete. So glad this came up on feed. Thank you
They sure loved finding as many reasons as possible to disqualify this man from these insane throws.
Who is they?
,,,,,,, ,,,, ,,,
They fond. I
@@JohnDoe-qg1pj the governing body who didn't recognize his WR throws as WRs
@@JohnDoe-qg1pj if you were paying attention to the video then you would know he's referring to the governing body, or did you expect someone to say THE ILLUMINATI?. The question is rhetorical.
I spent my entire college career emulating this man’s technique and I’m so happy to see a thorough accounting of his Herculean career. I ended up winning an ACC championship with a throw of 73.04m back in 2003 while attending Georgia Tech. Beaux Greer was reigning US champ and no one will throw a spear like Jan Zelezny again!
Boo wreck tech dawg go Dawgs 💯
I've made 10 meters from memory
@Gene Connor m
Yeah? Well....... also, I'm a ninja.
So I for some reason felt compelled to fact check this, and by God, you weren't lying. Congratulations (14 years late)man and clearly you put in a lot of work.
He would be known more if RUclips, Instagram and Facebook were in his era. I remember watching him in TV every Olympic games he competed as there was always big expectation & hope, almost c onfidence to get gold medal for the Czech Republic in this discipline...the same was Spotakova also from Czech for some continuous years later in Female competitions..
Proud of my countrymen 👏🏅🏆🥇👍 True Legend !
what a throwing machine! mad respect 💪
It would have been cool to see him throw the old style javelin at least once, to see what he could do.
Somebody mentioned that he managed to throw the old one 120 m
if It ever happens....I would just stay very far away from the stadium...
@a b based on your question you can say to yourself yes
@@frafrensis6229 I'd just stand behind him, but whatever works
@@kaldo8907 I'd be to his left or right, just in case he managed to throw around the Earth and stab me in the back
He was and still is an athlete to be beaten, he’s was so good that the IAA changed the ruling for javelins twice. I actually watch him throw a javelin out of an arena once..a true athlete the Greeks would bow too.
>the greeks would bow too
I certainly agree.
I love the Greek line. Awesome imagery
OUT of an arena?!
@@yellowpancake7968 Yes but the Greeks would wonder why try to throw as far as possible as they threw at targets as it was a weapon of war then and hitting your opponent way important.
@@RedRocket4000 though originally thrown at targets, when the Olympics started they did throw as far as possible, it was one of the Olympic’s motto, "Faster, Higher, Stronger",
What an amazing story I am so glad this ended up on my feed. The greatest athlete is here!!! 🙏🏻💯
Great video. I never knew about his triumphs. Thanks for sharing
It’s like the governing body tried all they could to stop him
I’m convinced governing bodies hate GOATS… I mean look at Simone Biles. She’s achieved moves no female gymnast in history has even dreamed of. Instead of rewarding her for brand new skills, they said it was dangerous and scored her normally. These standout athletes make it harder for everybody else to feel successful, so they belittle their success and continually move goalposts when they breakout again.
@@jacobskinner4263 damn nice insight.
he was from a communist/postcommunist country after all. if the governing body was western european/american... yeah you can see where im going w this
My thoughts exactly. Harrison Bergeron.
We've seen Formula One and Rally neutered in the name of safety as well. I wonder how frustrating it is for competitors to be held back, knowing they can do better than what they're allowed to do.
Met him a few times during training camps for javlein coaches, such a humble, kind and friendly man. Being a finn we have had many great throwers but I got no problem admitting that he is the G.O.A.T.
yea sure buddy
@@nazgul2619 Maybe stop being a cynical weeb and you might meet somebody famous?
@@db3032 “stop doing this unrelated thing, and the infinitesimal chances of meeting a specific person will increase by an arbitrary amount, decided by my flawless logic.”
@@akyut1749 "Stop being a weeb that posts destiny yeehaw videos"
I met him too and broke his record but it was unofficial. Such is life
The whip speed of his throwing arm is unbelievable, I remember watching the old style javelins in the 70's and they used to flex and wriggle their way through the air.
That was a great vid. Awoke many memories of watching athletics back then !
The "safety" excuse isn't about safety. It's about not wanting to accommodate a longer throwing field.
I mean they'd either have to move the throwing field or make the race track longer as well which isn't very convenient
Not everything is evil, safety reasons were no. 1 there, practical reasons obviously also played a part.
Or move the players AWAY from the throwing area
Or put safety rules for the track in place
Americans looking for ways to keep their records
When I thrrew javelin in high school in the '70s, you had to throw properly to make the tip stick, or at least break the surface, for the throw to be legal. Because of contraversies over "flat landings" and the distances being achieved, the javelin was redisigned in the '80s with a modified centre of gravity and surface area to promote sticking on landing, so now you can concentrate more on the strength of the throw rather than the correct style to get the tip to land first. The redisgn was also to shorten distances because of the tip pointing down after the javelin reached the top of the arc, rather than "floating" on the descent.
should be highlighted!.. very insightful
Very interesting, Lewis.
Thanks
You are the best person on the internet, next to Putin. 👩🔧🇺🇲🛠️🇷🇺
This is covered in the video.
Man, just so well done. One long glorious blink!MESMERIZING! Never turned away until the very end! This is the kind of movie they make movies about! The narrator's voice sounds like hot chocolate with marshmellows snuggled in a soft velvet blanket on Christmas morning! It makes you feel like you've finally made it home. The homes in which we all live where this truly wonderful world class athlete touched our hearts.
I threw in college, after my coach suggested it. I was a mediocre sprinter, and the javelin had a unique appeal (the element of danger, rarity at college level). Although we competed in NCAA Div 1, it was in a lower-tier conference. At the regional championships I competed against the eventual NCAA champ.
There are 2 basic techniques: Zelezny’s (also mine), and a slow trot to the foul line at which the thrower stops and then releases like any other distance throwing motion. The NCAA champ was the latter, and is preferred by athletes with superior arm strength, disproportionate to their leg/back strength. As you see Zelezny’s technique is more violent, more prone to injury, more prone to fouling. However, the big advantage is the ability to transfer horizontal energy (the running approach) to the throwing motion, which as you see involves all the major muscle groups. This doesn’t occur with the other technique, rare among elite throwers in the circuit but more popular with baseball outfielders hoping to improve their throwing velocity.
Would have loved to see him throw with the same javelin that the guy used to go over 100m
It would be a fun retirement party, go out to the biggest, flattest field they can find, mark some distances, and let him just heave one of the old javelins as hard as he could, to see how he compares. Though, not knowing how different they are, I'd be afraid of him hurting himself from the different weight/balance, etc.
He would possibly have 'killed' the competition 😉
@@swirlershark-dragon8393 What a way to go!
@@grandpied im sure romes enemies wouldnt have agreed.
he will only hurt Achilles' ego
Damn, when he throws a javelin it looks like he launches a rocket.
I wish they had the technology portrayed in Rocky IV for the Russian or just modern high speed cameras to better understand his form and the forces he delivered. How would his throwing a baseball from the outfield to home plate compare to some of the best outfielders?
Bruh think about this, you've been drafted and ur an rpg guy (don't actually know the correct name for that) and you launch a rocket at some dude and he just grabs I mid air and launches it back at u with his hand. I'd commit XD
I can still see a rocket as it launches. His arm accelerates like they sped up just that part of the video by 3 or 4 times.
I had the same thought. Maybe it's chalk?
Yea the one throw where it looked like it broke the sound barrier as soon as he released it?, honestly yea it could be chalk it could've been sweat or maybe I'm right and as soon as he released the javelin is pierced the sound barrier🤷♂️👀
Great video of a great athlete. Somehow I understand that the focus was on his javelin career, but for those whom might not know, he also was "signed" to an MBA team due to his ability to throw - I am by no means an expert on baseball or what different field players are called - just look it up yourself - What a Legend he is. 🐐
Thankyou for this wonderful documentary. He is most certainly a rare kind of human being, amazing.
Look at any javelin thrower, Jan was smaller then any of them. Did it stop him hell no, he demolished everyone he went up against. He is 1 of my heroes.
than*
Lol you are short
Buddy I’m 5’3 but I’m married w kids and just bought a house you’ll be fine
Javelin throwing, like archery, is all about technique over strength. Without the former the latter is unproductive.
@@humptydumpty1463 Lol you have small pp
Longest every throw: he was well short of the stopping line. His record would have been even greater than 98.48 m if his body went to the line.
i bet he kept reserve after the incident with a referee and just imagined the referee standing 90m from him :D
Or he could have had it deemed as another foul. That's why he stopped well short of the line. That's why the best in all sports where lines are involved, stop well before the line. It's not about getting to the line, but to utilize the body to the max.
Remember that thing about making sure this never happens again. He's using that space to make sure he never fouls ever again.
I don't think the extra meter or less of running distance would have that much of an impact. It's 99% form and strength and technique. Maybe it would have put him to 99 if that.
Didn’t the javelin itself change between the world record and the foul? Or did I get the timeline confused?
Nicely done. I learned.a lot about the sport of Javelins and gain respect for an unparalleled GOAT.
THANKS
A well done and very educative documentary about one of the greatest or rather THE greatest Javelin thrower in the world.
Never thought a video about javelin would be SO interesting. What an amazing story
15:33 "Hey man, did you see that guy almost through the javelin almost 100 meters?"
"Nah, I was looking down tying the laces on my golden shoes."
A legend. Fantastic to watch. Unique. What a feat. Unbelievably talented.
Incredible.. No Idea yet so credible that This guy deserves to be every sporting even globally. 98 M throw and 20 years of Top honors..
India Needs this Role models who inspired Neeraj Chopra and Millions others now.... Goosebumps even when watched whole video and every throw .. Amazing Champion of champions ..
I was there when he broke the record in South Africa. We all just fell in love with the man. It was amazing to watch.
Are you South African?
@@Itscertifiedzombie I’m not but he might be
One wonders what kind of range he could have gotten with the older style Javelin and during the Apex of his career. Maybe he could have literally thrown it off the field.
You mean off the stadium?
@@lekalla Into the audience
Probably into the back of another athletes head
Into the stork carrying a baby.
Hit a car on the street near by the stadium 🙂
I used to enjoy watching javelin as a kid. I always wanted Steve Backley to win, but this made me see that Zelezny was a class above. One point - Zelezny, being from the Czech Republic, couldn't have competed in the Commonwealth games - He did win the Goodwill games in 2001 though.
Yes I was scratching my head on that one to ?
Yup me too..commonwealth games is for us..ex crown colonial
Zelesny. Legend .there will never be a Javelin thrower like him .I used to look forward to watching at all the Grand prix events throughout Europe .Steve Backley must of been sick of the site of him.And Backley was an awesome thrower .What an Absolute True Legend .Great memories..
I knew he was good, but never really cared about him and had no idea how good he actually was. Thank you for this enlightenment!
Jan was and is my hero since I was in the elementary school. I have seen TV live that he broke the WR again and again in the same competition. He can keep constant performance to keep each throw over 90m. He even can keep the same performance after IAA change the Javelin. After 30yrs still unbeatable record. Unfortunately it‘s not popular in where I am from. So far I have only seen few athletes from Asia.
Technique over power. The slightlier built Jan had a better "whip" in his style than the others trying to just use strength and power. Legend
Fun fact: The current record of the Taiwanese grenade throwing record is 80m, by a javelin thrower, beating the previous record of 71m made by an MLB pitcher.
Javelin throwing requires fast arm movement and powerful thrust from legs to provide good momentum. To achieve maximum flight the javelin needs to fly at an angle of 40-50 degrees, so power still applies, it’s just how steep you throw it.
@@williammiao8862 I never thought people would record grenade throwing distances.
@@zedjacob8065 who knows? It could be very useful someday
That's an understatement.
Both technique and explosive power must be on equal footing. One could not do without the other - and that applies to just about any form of any sport where these two elements must be present.
You don't have to be overly muscular to have tremendous strength.
In fact, if you look at his body and bodies, let's say, sprinters or basketball players, their overall combined strength comes from their muscular structure where muscles and ligaments are long and dense.
Such muscle structure provides expansive rubber spring like qualities where the compression and sudden release of that compressed energy is much higher than with heavier and more bulky athletes where such features actually do not provide the energy needed for the maneuver that's being executed.
Jan Zelezny was, beside his almost perfect technique, also very strong and he was an expert in anatomy and studying his own structural advantages and shortfalls.
Anyone who aspires to be the best athlete, must also know all the secrets of his trade better than his Coaches. Those who rely too much on their Coaches usually do not achieve longstanding greatness because they e never been able to scrutinize and analyze themselves harder than their trainers.
Zelezny knows all the nuances of his trade far better than anyone else. That's why he is also a very successful a Coach because he can see inside his athletes heads and bodies.
When I see something like that, I am so proud to be Czech! Our country generated so many great athletes like Železny, Jágr, Hašek, Špotáková etc...
Particularly *Emil Zátopek*
@@tonygrimes13 sure there is a lot of others like Zatopek, Sablikova etc..
Your Country has historically produced great Artists, Musicians, composers, scientists and of course, Olympians. I have never visited, but I will. U r right to feel that cultural pride. It's well worth celebrating for the younger achievers today. Greetings from Australia.
My first.. Operation Daybreak heroes. Inspiration
Jirka Prochazka!💪
That was a perfect video...
Info fast paced to keep your attention the music was perfect and the voice cadence was just enough to hear and not enough to detract from the video....
This dude should have his own podcast...
"I am going to bed early tonight" I told myself this evening. It is now in the middle of the night and I am totally immersed in a documentary about javelin throwing...
Changing the rules again, is like devs nerfing a player, but in real life.
Underrated comment
13:40 -- the moment the Devs realized they needed to put the man in chain mail with a helmet before he threw at olympics....just to make it fair.
That throw was like Larry Bird coming into the 1987 three point contest and telling the other guys "who's coming in second?"
Maple is too OP! We need another nerf in here!
Think of taking those guys to an open long field. Security people and no fans just cameras. Let us see how far a man can throw the original javelin. Don’t make a floppy limp one so that it won’t go as far. Don’t change the rules. Let the athletes be as good as they can be
This is why he is the greatest of all time. No other athlete had to deal with the amount of nonsense this guy went through. Every couple of years it seems they change the instrument and the rules of the game, and yet he still smashes world records even as they erase his old ones. I don't think any other athletes had that many world records invalidated, and then got them back.
-thanks for this. Really good and informative. You've done your research and produced a 10/10 mini documentary.
Zelezni means made of iron 👌🏻 he sure was. He is a legend. Cheers from Bulgaria.
His technique really is flawless. He builds up speed first, then his legs move wider storing more potential energy. Then right at the release, all the energy he built up is transferred to his arm and you can actually see his entire lower body go completely still for a split second before the recoil of the throw causes him to jump once more to the line.
He realizes this which is why he throws so short of the line, hes a true master of the sport!
Great eye. Surely a coach.
👍🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@@JohnDoe-nr7to just a highly enthused fan ☺
I am from Czech Republic (used to be Czechoslovakia until 1993), and i must give u respect man, this was very indepth and well made documentary, and that footage is rly not easy to come by, very nice, i am shocked and humbled by ur work. Very nice documentary!
and also, you took the time to PROPERLY pronounce his name.. Very nice touch!
Glad you liked it. I've been a fan of Železný for some time. I've wanted to make a long in-depth analysis of his career for a while and finally got around too it. Cheers!
Had 3 weeks in your country in 1993. Had an amazing time. We got invited to an after hours bar by a group of 60 year olds. Had a really good night on the beers. No one spoke English and we didn’t speak Chek. Beautiful country, friendly people.
@Peter Evans nah man it wasn't the wind. It was pixies, or possibly a witch.
That talent can't come from a normal dude. He made a deal with something.
@Peter Evans well sir, you sure did swing my influences to the other side. I think I'll need a moment to collect myself.
The GOAT of all time. Once in a lifetime athlete in his sport. Thanks to you Mr. Jan Zenlezny for raising the bar high for being great. That’s what is called inspiration, hard work and dedication to be the best. Great video.
the GOATOAT
A TRUE GREAT OLYMPIAN and world athlete I remember seeing some of these throws and thinking like WTF?? Almost spearing the judges at the end of the field!
The older I get the more I enjoy Basking in the glory of others... This was an awesome video.
It's one of the unexpected little gifts that age bestows, eh? 😀
Right on
I think the older we get we learn to truly respect the time and effort that comes with mastery of a skill.
Really great video about my father. Thank you very much.
your dad was a GOAT !!....zdravim z Berouna ..🙂
Your father achieved Super-human strengths! I wish him good health
I'm not saying that you're definitely Not who you say that you are, but it's very suspect that you joined RUclips with this name and comment at the same time.
@@joe3USA it doesn matter ...
Cap
Thank you for a beautiful and important video! Exceptionally well done! I'm a 68 year old Vietnam era Vet who in high school was a discus and javelin thrower. I have extremely long arms at 38" and had a very similar style in throwing the javelin. Unfortunately the very same year I went to compete nationally, my school outlawed the javelin. In upstate New York a fatality occurred due to a misthrow from a different school and my mine did not want the liability. I went on to placing 2nd in the State championships in discus, but my first love was the javelin. I would practice the javelin 4 days a week, even though I could no longer compete with it.
What always interested me in both the discus and the javelin were their connections to ancient Greece and Rome. Classical mythology is still a favorite hobby. Thank you again for an illuminating look at the world's greatest athlete!
With respect,
~Patrick
They should not outlaw it anywhere. Pretty sure it's so rare as to not happen again. Never hear of javelin deaths so its dumb they banned it.
@pad-zilla1246. I am a javelin thrower from upstate NY and they still don’t really have javelin at meets, with few exceptions. This year I competed at Nationals and ranked first in the state. However, it would’ve been nice if we actually had it at all our meets. Instead of training javelin regularly at practice, my coach had me train for pentathlon.
Never heard of this fantastic man. Once in a life time such a person.
I’m sold. If I win the lottery, I’m definitely having a pro javelin thrower on my security staff roster. Sure a sniper could get it done, but the thought of being impaled by a javelin is brutal AF.
Impalement is the other direction. Unless they’re upside down on their head or hands. 🤔😂💀
Get a full Swiss guard style security and make them all guard you with spears.
It happened a lot in pre-modern war.
"It is quite a flex on worldwide sport to say that you changed the rules to an entire athletic endeavor" - KennyS about the AWP, circa 2014.
‘Athletic’ lol.
@@harrisons62 Yeah, I'm all in calling competitive computer games sports, but using the word athletic doesn't really fit.
Maybe it will when some physically demanding VR game becomes a esport, but until then 'athleticism' is reserved.
Man, great story, great narration, great video! ❤ Unfortunately, there's no such thing as the only GOAT among all. There's amazing history behind every great name.
The safety concerns throwing javelin were nothing compared to my Lawn Jarts games in the backyard with my brothers.
Lawn jarts
Ahhh, I miss the good old days!
I remember good times with Lawn Darts in the 70’s when safety wasn’t a concern and kids weren’t such snowflakes.
Oh the memories of my drunken youth. Sticking a lawn dart into the side of my friends above ground pool
Hahahahahahaha
I remember seeing him always winning during the summer games as a kid. Made me not liking him as a participant as there were basically no competition.
Thanks for showing how great he really was! 👏
Salutes to him
This is the same feeling us F1 fans have right now due to Lewis Hamilton.
it's funny how western fkers gets so jealous of Indian javelin thrower winning gold that now they make videos showing how others are great. I wonder why they never made this video before Neeraj Chopra won gold in olympics for India.
@@aaronfrench8322 its no only Hamilton, Mercedes car is better than any other in F1, Verstappen and Russell would be as good as Hamilton if they had the same car and team. Russell almost won a race last year with a Mercedes, hopefully next year races will be more interesting
@@amazingdude9042 Man, google more... there's tons of stuff and documentaries about Honza Železný, but whatever, make it racist think. Sure.
@@amazingdude9042 nobody cares bud
First visit to your channel. I think it's awesome for you to bring attention to obscure but (most decidedly) deserving athletes. Well done sir!
Small add - the reason for changing the spear was not only the 104,8 m throw by Uwe Hohn - but also that the old spear had showed a rather flat flying curve the longer the throw got (the athlete threw it faster - the curve flattened a bit .. thus more length) and the referee often had problems determining the landing point because the spear would "slide" on landing. The new spear has shifted balance (more weight close to the head) - which leads to a pronounced curve and sticks in the ground on landing instead of sliding. So it made the job much easier to determine the result
I've never watched a javelin event in my life. Yet I watched this whole thing. Great work :)