200 M Freestyle Finals - 2004 Olympics
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2011
- Ian Thorpe, the best swimmer in the world - Gold
Pieter Van Den Hoogenband - Silver
Michael Phelps - 3rd (now his an Olympic Champion because the best 2 swimmers retired before the 2008 Beijing Olympics) 
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Definitely THE most stacked race in swimming history.
Ian Thorpe, the Greatest !!!!!
Ian thorpe putting his goggles on and sticking out his tongue lols. What a relaxed stroke.
To my mind thorpe is the best ever in freestyle Phelps in butterfly peaty in breaststroke and Murphy in backstroke
Peaty? He is great of course, but I think the best ever in breaststroke has to be someone who excelled in all distances. So someone like Kitajima. It isn't required in freestyle as that would apply to nobody, but as in breaststroke there is only a 50, 100, 200 plus some short course races, there are some who have, and the best ever has to be one of those people. Peaty can't even swim a 200, even at his peak.
Backstroke 3 i think of no murphy i think peireol krayzleburg or even lochte
Credit to Phelps for not ducking this event knowing it was loaded. Showed he wanted to take on the best.
Why would he ever duck it?
I wonder if that Phelps guy will be any good
if he keeps training hard, I think he might have a chance
What a field! Hackett - the 1500m winner, 400m silver medallist and World record holder in the 1500 - couldn't get a medal!
Ian Thorpe The Best
Zlatan,Is that you? O no! Is Ian Thorpe
I keep watching the video of this race almost... every month. That is... 12 times a year ! So since 2004, one could say it's been ... many times.
Why? Because this race marked something special for all swimmers: as the winner...
- "revolutionnized " the way freestyle swimming should be
- because the "Pressure to perform" in this olympic final was BEYOND THIS WORLD
- becautse of ....Michael Phelps being there, in the pool, that day
- Because Ian Thorpe was going to teach all of us, again, how to swim and, how to win any race.
Bottom line:
Ian, you had talent (and the genes) of course, but you also had "Le Mental" that it took. Obviously.
Now, in 2022, whenever I go for a swim, I think of Ian's technique: I glide with my arms as much as I can, I try to float out of the water, and be relaxed while suffering. You know what? It works.
Merci Ian.
Phil, Québec, Canada
Given that palmares and numbers speaking Michael obviously is the greatest swimmer of all time, imho Ian is the most talented swimmer and the greatest freestyle swimmer of all time
Thorpie, greatest swimmer of all time!
The thorpedo always on the top !!!
Great swimmer!!
Hoogenband had some difficulty coming out of a turn for the last 100. Looks to me like that's where Thorpe won the race.
He caught him in third 100 before the last flip turn
Phelpsy was still raw at the 200m free in 2004. Only peaked in this event a few years later. A shame his and Thorpe's peak didn't coincide with one another
Had Ian Raced in the Supersuit Era now we should have had a pair of unbeatable 3.35 and 1.40 WR in 400 and 200 Free.
@@toivonencrestostop please💀he has been wearing a full body suit at every major meet. i understand the super suits were better but 3:35 an 1:40 is insane. 3:39, 1:43/44 would be more like it
Phelps 19, Thorpe 22. Thorpe didnt dare to remain on board for 2008 in Beijing. That would have made Phelps 23 vs Thorpe 26. Thorpe would have still been in his prime, shame he quit so young. He cheated everyone of a great rivalry.......
This event helped Phelps get better in 2008. I mean he really studied Thorpe and Hackett.
There was a lot of good swimmers in this event in 2004 Keller Phelps Say Hackett Thorpe Vanden Hoganband Burnett.
Then phelps broke his record....don't talk to me about not being able to get 7 gold medals ...who is loving now thorpedodo
honestly if you look at the way thorpe and phelps do turns vs how vdh does turns I'm actually amazed that he manages to get silver. VDH is just so good in the plainly swimming part of the race.
No need to be amaze3d....he didnt GET Silver he got bronze.
VHB was under massive oxygen debt on that 3rd turn after a blistering first 100. His turn came up short because he was under so much pressure from doing a 50s split. Thorpe's 3rd turn was a thing of beauty. Phelps' turns in this race were not his usual high standard. He came up short on the 3rd turn, but not as short as VHB. Phelps' last turn in the 400m at Beijing was one of the most incredible things I've ever seen in sport. He swam 10m underwater! At the end of a 400m MEDLEY! Who does that?!
@@Fuzcapp Agree 100% with you. 1.44.7 can appear nothing special to this day for a 200 free, but this race was only and totally about facing the immense amount of pressure that media put entering the event. I think a "normal" sport fan may not remember who won the 100m track race of Athens 2004, but for sure remembers this. Peter tried the exact strategy did 4 years earlier, making a 100 free pace in the first 2.5/3 50s. Ian lost an "easy" gold in Sidney because of the strategy of the orange, so smart, he overpaced, did fall in the trap and lost his trademark final burst in the last 50. In Athens the lesson was fully learned and applied: he follow Peter without exaggerating and after the 3rd turn, from which he came out as a rocket, took the lead and touched first.
@@toivonencresto Check out the underwater shot at 5:24 ... Pete hardly gets any push off the wall - he's turned too early due to the pressure and the O2 debt, he can't get a proper glide into the wall.
@@Fuzcappi dont think its because of lack of oxygen. my guy just rushed in and miscalculated the distance. happens to the best of us
Greatest swimming race of all time, and who won it? "Ian Thorpe THE MASTER, Ian Thorpe THE KING" (cit.), of course!
Love watching nbc broadcasted swim races. greetz from Germany, our commentators are boring af
Stupidest description ever, coming from someone who doesn't understand this sport whatsoever.
Phelps was 19years old and competing in 200freestyle (just to get the chance to battle his hero, Ian Thorpe), but outside his comfort zone (butterfly, medley) although this is a race he improved in the following years (besting the time of both of them even with normal swimsuits) . Thorpe and VDH are legends but Michael Phelps is simply the best and most dominant swimmer ever (19 Olympics + 26 World Championship if we count only gold medals: pure craziness).
+Paolo Angioni Phelps is without doubt the best all round swimmer of all time, but he isn't/wasn't the best freestyler. Ian Thorpe is generally recognised by his peers and experts as the best that ever pulled on a pair of speedos. He won the 400 meters freestyle in world record time at the World Championships at 15 years of age! He'd broken 17 world records before he was 19 and all in the one swimming stroke. He was a freak.
Ian Thorpe better swimmer than phelps
Ashish Kumar Chaudhary fuck off dumbass
u fuck off stupid
No doubt Phelps is the most successful swimmer of all time but I like VDH and Thorpe because they are great freestylers.
for me, The most impressive wins are VDH in Sydney 2000, gold in 100-200 free and bronze in 50 free
Thorpe in 2004 with gold in 200-400 free and bronze in 100 free.
Phelps huffing and puffing at the end, Thorpe hardly breathing hard!
I guess Phelps just has no business being in the Olympics, does he?
Firebat 66
Maybe Phelps should just stop sucking on the bong😜
At 5:24 in the underwater shot of the last turn, you can see, VDHB turns too early, and hardly gets any push off the wall, then comes up early. This is probably due to VDHB being unable to glide face-down into the wall, being in so much O2 debt after the first three laps going out so hard. Thorpe on the other hand, as the commentator called it, has some in reserve, so he's able to glide into the wall properly after his last stroke, get a mighty push off the wall and then complete his underwater technique before coming up to breathe. It's all in the oxygen debt.
Phelps after2004 is another béat world record two trimes in 200m Melbourne and Beijing
IMO 6 gold and 2 bronze medals is a greater performance than 7 golds. Phelps got 5 individual medals, matching Spitz's 4 gold and adding a bronze. In Spitz's time the US simply was more dominant in the relays.
Olympic Games in Atlanta 1996. Men's Swimming. Individual Gold medals in Men's Swimming.
2 USA Jeff Rouse. Brad Bridgewater. Tom Dolan. only (3) three gold medals.
1. RUS. Alexander Popov. Denis Pankratov. only (4) four gold medals.
Men's Swimming. Individual Gold medals in Men's Swimming. Olympic Games in Atlanta 1996 check: USA 🇺🇸 - RUS.🇷🇺. 3 - 4.
"Michael Phelps - 3rd (now his an Olympic Champion because the best 2 swimmers retired before the 2008 Beijing Olympics)"
Disagree. He defeated Hoogenband in 2007 melbourne championship.
and he smashed Thorpe's world record in that races. Thorpe and hoogie couldn't have defeated phelps in their haydays.
Yeah, I was about to point that out
And he would have defeated Thorpe too. Heck Thorpe was so fat and out of shape by that point I doubt he medals in any event. He made the right choice to retire, he wasn't motivated anymore.
@@ralphbourgeois5875 Thorpe was sitting in the stands at Beijing, pouting because Phelps fulfilled his goal of breaking Spitz's record which, by the way, Thorpe predicted would be "impossible"
@@verwardThorpe retired 2 years after this and was only 21 here. Your statement is stupid
Просто кайф!
Una carrera épica, con unos súper atletas. PVDH un gran nadador y competidor, Phelps increible en butterflay and medley. Thorpe el mejor nadador de estilo libre de distancia media con su técnica de Crol que hace parecer que nadar sea simple. Un grande el tritón australiano. Fue viéndolo a Ian thorpe que me gusta la natación.
Rowdy Gaines hasn't changed one bit
Did Phelps snub Thorpe at the end? He certainly didn't shake hands with the winner
Phelps did shake his hand. 5:02
8 medals in 2008 was useles especially when you are tested positive for banned substance DDP. . A true champion never cheats
No wonder he won 8 medals in 2008 Beijing Olympics.
Bro what?
I wouldn't call an achievement like that useless unless you are on the same level. And as for the doping you are speaking of, it was a false positive. Else he wouldn't have 28 medals today.
crap....Phelps wasnt running any one down hoogie and thorpe were pulling away from him
These commentators are full of crap! As if Phelps was running down Thorpe in this race...lol
Thorpe was the world record holder & Olympic champion in the 400m, the world record holder in the 800m...so he was hardly going to run out of steam.
Thats BS Van Den Hoogenband competed in the 2008 Olympics,
BTW in 2004 Phelps was 19, younger than thorpe.
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🦈🌟🇺🇸Fly fish Michael Phelps Out of the cottage and tell the world and the swimming names around them will not be in the eye
He was running down Thorpe what a joke
gros clients
The younger the better unfortunately, Phelps failed to show us that he could beat the best of the best....sorry, history was done.
he later kicked the shit out of the world record years later so stfu
The last time I checked, 1:42.8 (Phelps) is a faster time than 1:44.71 (Thorpe)
no, sYOUtfu, Biedermann and Agnel Destroyed Phelps' time, so it doesn't mean nothing@@marcelochauvet4748
Phelps did not 1.42.8, but 1.42.96 in Supersuit, Thorpe did 1.44.06 in textile. Phelps' best textile time is 1.43.86 @@michaelding3596
Hou karez ? Phelpy got tzmashed in thiz raze! Biggest Loozah !