Why Goku VS Saitama is NOT Close
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- ♦️ Become a Member: / @saiyanmotion
♦️ Subscribe: / saiyanmotion
♦️ Join the discord server: / discord
♦️ Follow Me on Twitter: / saiyan_motion
Goku VS Saitama: Who ACTUALLY Wins?
---- CREDITS ----
Thanks To JuniorSama For The Thumbnail!
/ juniorsamaa
Thanks to Wexor and Edo for helping out with this vid. Join their Discord: / discord
Thanks To @HonestlyMixi For Editing The Saitama Portion
/ @honestlymixi
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Email for business inquiries: saiyanmotion@gmail.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
► Dragon-Ball is Owned by TOEI ANIMATION, Ltd. and Licensed by FUNimation Productions, Ltd.. All Rights Reserved. DragonBall, DragonBall Z, DragonBall GT, DragonBall Super and all logos, character names and distinctive likenesses thereof are trademarks of TOEI ANIMATION, Ltd.
► Renders and backgrounds provided by Dragon Ball Z: Dokkan Battle, Dragon Ball Legends, Dragon Ball Z: Bucchigiri Match, Dragon Ball FighterZ, and Dragon Ball Z: Kakarot.
► "Copyright Disclaimer, Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for 'fair use' for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use."b
Consider becoming a Member for exclusive content and early videos - ruclips.net/channel/UCFo3pKQb6j3rg4Kj-YL7X7Ajoin
Very bad vid tbh, check ppl's comments for info goku fanboy
the Garou vs Saitama fight literally shows Garou getting left in the dust, he was only using one arm and gripping Genos’ core. all whilst keeping Tareo’s promise
That doesn't change his strength.
@@EludeWolf well that shows he’s still holding back not trying to kill garou
@@kelvinsun5099 no, he was going all out, Just using one arm. It's fine though Goku is still stronger in every way possible. (I was wrong he was almost going all out)
@@EludeWolf noooo saitama has unlimited potential and grows much faster than GOKU, it doesn’t matter what GOKU has. A sprit bomb or anything won’t do anything to saitama as he is just made to overpower his opponents
@@kelvinsun5099 Goku has unlimited potential also, and also grows during an battle. Also he is stronger and more durable than Saitama 💀
When Saitama does his "serious" moves he's still holding back..
i kinda feel like he has some "i don't give a fuck about universe mode"
didn't he say that was going all out in the garou fight? meaning when he's "serious" he's not holding back.
@@megawl2086 which is when garou killed genos
@@scottbranam8306he was literally using one hand he was holding back
@@cowboys_fan655 then why did he say he was going all out. he could've just put all his energy in his hand. shouldn't he be able to do this based on how he can "beat goku"?
Dude, during his fight with Boros at the end Boros even acknowledged the fact that he was holding back. He only did that cause he wanted Boros to have a "good" end and not feel powers less compared to to him but Boros saw though him and realised that if he had tried to kill Boros it would have lasted SECONDS at most.
And basing this off of the manga unless Goku does Goku then he's getting neged
@@Gojoandsukunafruads Nah, Saitama still wins unless Goku goes to his level
At which point I think it would last forever and destroy everything they go “near” or it just destroys everything as soon as to beings of that power exist at the same time
@@TheEliteOne. I ain't no Goku fanboy as I was just in a debate about cc Goku vs ln Rimuru and Goku fanboys thought he would win but right now the cosmology of DBZ is much higher than opm and I hope for the god of me Goku fanboy know there place of Saitama grows stronger but current Goku negs
@@Gojoandsukunafruads I disagree as a OPM enjoyer but I also respect you so I don’t really want to argue with you
Cant we just agree that they will just be friends?
Edit: Pie
No! I crave conflict!
@@theunfunnylad693 🤣
training partners more likely
Yes, we want peace not war or the earth is Doom
Saitama would actually become a martial artists and if he could go to the world of DBS/DBZ he'd love his dream and train with krillin and Yamcha and Tien
didnt saitama held back in the fight against gorou because he made a promise to a child to not kill gorou like at all?
He did not only that, Saitama was only unsupressed
but still that doesnt even matter-
Goku solos
@@randomspots1706 unsupressed means not restraining so your saying hes holding back but also not so which one is it? wait also out of curiosity what is gokus base power level in super?
@@crismon0726 I said supressed as in he's serious in like "teaching" Garou a lesson, but he's not really full power as he made a promise to the kid if im not wrong to not kill Garou
plus Base Goku is already Universal, since Goku's base is now equal to the SSG Goku from Battle of Gods
possibly even stronger as he has now mastered God Ki
@@randomspots1706 sheesh
@@randomspots1706 wait so saitama was holding back against gorou and hes still has no chance against goku?
One key thing people keep missing: Saitama has never taken a single hitpoint of damage. None of these things matter if he can't take damage.
its like saying a guy that goes to the gym every day cant get hit bye sombody who never went to the gym or ever trained
@@astasteria7238 its like a guy who keeps replying on other's comments who are supporting saitama fucking dbz fanboy saitama literally has never taken damage felt pain i dont watch dbz due to the cartoonish 2000 art style i dont know the characters( do not tell me to watch it i won't)
but i have seen their feats in battle and they are stronge but not saitama level of not taking a single damage or while using one hand holding back to not kill/going all out and defeating someone as much stronge as he is is undoubtly undefeatable to counter there is not other explanation other than both the dbz and opm writers say it(not in a trillion years).
his own vers is weaker than goku
@@astasteria7238I’m not gonna lie I didn’t understand anything I just read
@@emilianomendoza6891 ik i explained it wrong so its like a lvl 2450 lvl person is in a server with only lvl 1 people nobody can hit him cuz hes so powerful
Saitama hold back not only becuase he promised a kid that he wouldnt kill garou he also used one arm the entire time and dont forget he sneezed almost half of jupiter away
He literally said he was using all he got. Even narrator backs that up later on.
People be bringing up jupiter like first form frieza aint destroy planet vegeta with a finger and its almost the size of jupiter. Also sneezing is different for jupiter because he just sneezed gas away
Berry’s did that on a larger scale but actually destroying planets ( and it was on accident /sort of )
@@pixelspixelation6418 i mean sneezing is a different story but you simpletons are to dumb to understand 😔
Speed-Goku (self explanatory)
Strength-Goku( Fought someone way stronger then saitama, Against the same god he shaked the whole universe, heaven, hell and the Kai’s world. And now that goku can do that on base without trying goku slams Saitama
It's almost as if whoever "wins" just relies on the style you prefer. As far as I know, Goku is more about the drama and improving himself. He'll seem to lose, and then overcome it. Not being at full power and then gaining a bit more with each thing he faces. Yet with Saitama, it's about the comedy. A normal guy who is just unbeatable, and is totally bored. He isn't about the dramatics, and talks about all these situations as if they are just annoyances. So, it really depends on what you prefer. The over coming drama, or the comedic situation. That's who will win, because they're fictional and either one can win depending on who you prefer
In a fight between the 2 just Goku in base after the fight against Beerus in the beginning of dbs out scales anything close Saitama does. Saitama is a star buster which is strong but Goku with 1 punch with Beerus had the ability to wipe out the whole universe, the after life, and everything the universe consists of. This universe is so big that you can place an infinite space and it'll look like a small grain of sand on a beach
Goku then absorbs that power in base and assuming he doesn't get ANY STRONGER throughout dbs he has a 50x multiplier through ssj then 2x that multiplier with ssj2 and then 4x of the previous 2 multipliers. On top of that he has super saiyan god which is 1kx multiplier which is a downplay and super saiyan blue which is atheist a 50x increase from that multiplier
You then have Kaioken which he can ramp up to a 20x multiplier and then ui omen which is 1kx stronger than super saiyan blue and that's still a heavy downplay. You then can have mui which is another 1kx multiplier and then his final state where he achieves true ultra instinct in the Moro arc which is way over 1kx but we can call it 1kx
In other words base Goku out scales Saitama and in true ultra instinct form there is a 0 amount of growing Saitama can do to reach Goku with the rate he grows and that's assuming Goku stays at the same strength right after the fight with Beerus
@@kishoofficial6961 would like to remind u of something
saitama is purely a gag character, so it literally just depends who's writing it and if it'd be funny for him to win or not.
@@MrTinkleWinkle Kid Goku was a gag character stop going on with that fallacy. You saying the fight with Garuo wasn't serious? Genos dying wasn't serious? That's a twisted sense of humor you got there
@@kishoofficial6961 when did i say the fight with garou wasnt serious 💀
saitama AS A CHARACTER is a gag.
@@MrTinkleWinkle So the fact remains his serious fights means he isnt a gag character during those which means saitama loses
In the part about saitama where you mention him destroying many stars with his and garou's punches clashing, it wasn't just stars that he destroyed because when you look yp at the night sky, all of the things you see are not just stars, but many of them are galaxies as well so then that would mean he destroyed a lot more than you said.
That argument is garbage bro just hop into this already👉🏽🗑️
Also the fact that we instantly saw the change despite the stars being some lightyears away shows their punches colliding was strong enough to delete light too. I have never seen that feat before
Doesn't matter... Gokus Feats just literally shits on saitama... Goku shook the void... While saitama sneezed Jupiter, and the saitama Garou serious series punch√2 wasnt his power alone so cut that in half but just for fuks sake will leave it his power alone it still only destroyed galaxies while ssj god alone threatened the whole universe mutiply that by 50 ssj blue ans not even UI Omen yet alone mastered... C'mon guys.. it's not close... Only way saitama wins is a Omnidirectional serious punches on a base Goku maybe ssj 1 or 2
@@luislugo9587 saitama wins IF ITS FUNNY 💀
@@luislugo9587 Funny thing is, none of that matters; saitama was made to never lose while goku was created to lose and get stronger Saitama will always win vs anyone even xeno
You made a mistake. Goku wasnt in SSB when he took a fatal blow from the foot soldier lazer. he was in base. In the ressurection F movie he was in SSB, but that moment was retconned in the anime to make him in base
yes I wanted to say it too
Well Akira toriyama was involved in the movies...so the author himself wanted that to happen.
It only got retcon in the series because of toei .
Well akira toriyama matters more as he is the creator himself ..so Goku durability is Jack shit even in blue
@@user-og9nl5mt1b when goku fights in his forms he creates a shield of ki around his body tho when he isnt concentrated the shield disapears so if goku wasnt concentrated saitama woud of one shoted him with the move he used against genos
@@user-og9nl5mt1b it’s jack shit when he’s off guard. he still tanks universe destroying attacks in base when he’s aware or expecting a blow, or at least ready to fight
@@dabonethug why did he run away from zeno then
Fans can speculate all they like with their power scaling highballs and lowballs and cherry pick feats and statements to write whatever kind of fan fiction they want. If there was ever an actual crossover with both characters as themselves, even ignoring the gag stuff, Goku would fight like Goku does and want to see Saitama's limit. Saitama's limit doesn't exist, and if the sparing gets to the point where his limitless growth kicks in, Goku does have a limit on his forms and energy and will get left behind.
Finally someone who understands, unfortunately these ridiculous gokutards will not be able to wrap their head around that fact because their childhood favorite character matters more to them
@@cyn_lyt i love Goku, but he also lost battles in Dragon Ball, ofc he loses, but that doesn't mean he can get stronger and surpass his opponent.
in their current strength Saitama doesn't compare to him. The Video is about who is currently stronger, not who would win a fight.
But if it's a fight, Goku would win if he is serious from the beginning, if he isn't then im not sure, because even when Goku doesn't fight serious his base strength is still way stronger than Saitama right now.... so maybe he wins without going serious but idk
oh and i am up to date at the Dragon Ball Super Manga and at the One Punch Man Webcomic and Manga, so there's nothing i don't know
@@senzuz7695yeah but the fact is Goku might actually accidentally kill satiama with his punch
Goku doesn't have a limit either you do realize he keeps getting stronger and stronger?
@@cyn_lyt And yet you saitamatards can't accept the facts that goku solos based on feats.
For somebody to say that Goku can be damaged when that concept isnt even considered for Saitama and yet still give the win to Goku is wild...
The whole comedy of saitama is that he is casually infinitely more powerful than the people around him even when they have bursts of perseverance and intense emotion. Fighting goku would be the same thing
I also still can’t believe that saitama can time travel and he’s still willing to give the win to goku
@adomasdaubaris5515 because goku obviously got his strength with no help so saitama can’t get help either
@adomasdaubaris5515 I honestly had so much trouble reading your mess of words, but I never said I read the manga, goku only got powerful from other people’s help so of course saitama would too, and, even if he had to be taught, he has the ability to time travel bruh, along the fact that bro sneezed and it blew the gas off of Jupiter, don’t think goku can do that
@adomasdaubaris5515 Jesus Christ man, im all for the discussion but calm down, stop being so agressive and read what youre writting before you send it...
it doesnt defeat the misconception that he has infinite strength, it showcases that he does indeed have infinite strength, in the fight, even when fighting himself, he was able to surpass his own strength since he physically has no limits, eventually ceasing to get stronger since hes already surpassed his opponent. If he were to fight someone far stronger, like goku, since he has broken his limiter, as the fight progresses, eventually he will surpass goku in strength. thats the "infinite strength" concept which was demonstrated in the manga
by that logic, broly would have infinite strength in hiss iikarii form
You forget goku also gets stronger as the fight goes on.
He will never surpass goku.
@@legendarytronic7774yeah but the thing is Goku will definitely lose his stamina before he even gets a scratch on Saitama, since Saitama has infinite strenght, it also means he has infinite durability. Literally not even once have we seen Saitama been harmed by his enemies (except for before he trained). You forget that Saitama is just a gag character, his entire character is just a joke. The whole point of his character is that he has infinite power and nothing can beat him. The series is called "One Punch Man" for a reason folks
You can't call it 'infinite' if someone is still growing. That's bs
the problem is that saitamas durability seems to be alot higher than his attackpotency. even while fighting garou, he never got hurt at all. unless saitama gets hurt at any time in the future, its impossible to tell how much punishment he can take.
Edit: i started a war...
Saitama once got hurt by a cat and showed blood and visible pain.
@@randomanimations882 yea but thats obviously a gag moment. its like saying chichi pulling gokus ear makes him wall level
@@kenonerboy no, it would make chi-chi galaxy level in that, same for the cat.
Lol
@@randomanimations882 that makes no sense. we dont know how much punishment saitama can take, and if youre taking that perspective it would make the cat also unknown in its attack potency..
If goku does goku things, saitama wins, if he doesn’t, goku wins. Simple as that. Edit: Read all the replies before you reply, thank you in advance.
I would like you to elaborate
@@XlifZero3314 goku things are described as allowing your opponent to adapt (if they can) so said opponent can reach your power level for fighting enjoyment purposes.
@@SHADOWIZARDMONEYGANG7146 To bad it’s going to take Saitama way to long for him to reach Goku’s level. It won’t matter if Goku does Goku things. Saitama wont catch up.
Goku: wow you caught up to my base?! Cool *goes super saiyan becoming 50x stronger*
Even goku base is insanely strong
for the first part, saitama didn't go all out because it's said that he still wanted to hold back because of the promise he made to that one kid, and for the second part, saitama took zero injuries from the battle against cosmic garou, "GoKu SolOs!!!1!11!!!!1!" stfu
W comment 🔥🔥🔥
You're basically saying Saitama wins because he never got hurt or showed his true power
Funny af
@@pream3336es. Exactly. He's invincible. While Goku gets beaten, exhausted, and died multiple times in his fights no matter who it is, Saitama just gets bored, unhinged, unscratched, one punch no matter who it is.
@@royalpanther6391 lmfao
@@royalpanther6391 One More Kid Sayin Saitama Can One Punch Anyone LoL
One thing about Goku being easy going or confident is that he is only like that when he knows his enemies are weaker or when he has a strategy to win against them, for example, when going up against Hit he was super confident because he knew how time skip worked and had already figured a way to counter it but when against a tougher foe like Jiren, he was super serious.
You get a guy with egg instead of head idk how serious can he take him
@@krysert4552fr
Brother you nigg# you know what you are stop hating on Sa because your literally sock gokurko bic# right now so stop it now you you you foc#ing be but gokou is a got and have deferment power than sa dot it does not im coming dark mi girl is calling
@@sausage-gobbler5392 Saitama slams midcu
@@Animeeditz1982 1st what midcu second I'm just saying you couldn't take saitame seriously as he's an egg head
In both of saitama's most difficult fights he was holding back even boros knew he wouldve lost in seconds if saitama didnt hold back and saitama promised that one kid to not kill garou so he had to hold back, along with the fists clashing he didnt destroy thousands of stars he destroyed millions+some galaxies here and there because some stars are just too dark for us to see and at one point during the garou fight garou had released a gamma ray burst which I hope you know what that is and after saitama took it head on he was unscathed, saitama had also picked up and moved a portal made by cosmic garou breaking the laws of physics we still have not seen saitama bleed yet or show any kind of pain saitama also shattered one of jupiters moon and then proceeded to jump all around thousands of times in seconds
"some stars are just to dark for us to see" Most head canon thing i've ever heard
Saitama said he was going full power vs Garou and the narrator backs that statement up. Also the whole Jupiter thing is a useless argument because Frieza blew up a planet with his FINGER while in BASE FORM before the events of ORIGINAL DRAGON BALL even started
if he truly were going all out then why did his power keep increasing at an alarming rate
@@grilled608 bro? I thought it was common knowledge that one could be going all out and still continue to grow. The same thing could be said in real life to lmao
@@MonsterGrease True, although the point still stands that a lot of lights we see in the sky are not stars but Galaxies, which was the case for Andromeda whom we thought was a Nebula but is actually a galaxy bigger than ours, and yet it's the closest to us and we managed to fuck it up.
Imagine all those other lights millions of light years away
Saitama eventually wins against Boros, Boros acknowledged that saitama was holding back all of his power
I remember the part where garou and saitama where fighting and garous power was limitless and constantly growing but it started to show a chart when garou described that saitamas growth rate grows too fast even with the fact that garou can mimic his opponents.
They were growing at the same rate just garou was already weaker to start
Saitama is called One Punch Man FOR A DANG REASON. We will never know which will win because they will never fight. They are from 2 different anime's. They will never fight. Unless its in the anime.
2 things
1. yes they will never fight but you know the internet.
2. so cuz he is called one punch man he can end goku?
@@scottbranam8306the point of the name is to show that he can kill someone with a single pinch
@@stonk3241 so because he's name is one punch man, he can solo goku? that would mean he could solo grand preist and rimiru. that logic, makes no since, after looking at it from more angles
@@scottbranam8306 I was just saying that’s the point of the show and the point of the original comment that Ethan left I don’t think he can 1 shotGoku I think he can beat him for sure but it will be hard to do so
@@stonk3241 so why didn't he one shot garou and boros?
it is worth to note that saitama didnt go serious anymore while fighting garou
Fax
you do know he stated that garou could take his full power. if you're talking about the 1 arm then just look at all might. he used all his power in 1 arm.
@@scottbranam8306 last time I checked Saitama ain’t all might
And goku would hold back 10 times more because he solos garou. I mean his punching power was able to shake the universe sooo... saitama gets trashed on
@@Wgigamessime personally I think the fight solely depends on which of the two can grow their power faster because apparently they can grow infinitly
“What Would Be Your Version If Chi-Chi Continued Her Training & Became A Z-Fighter?” - I absolutely hate that Toriyama put her behind and didn't make her a Z-Fighter. She had the most potential out of any other human on earth - more than Krillin, Tien or Yamcha. Imagine how much she could accomplish if she trained alongside Goku; maybe even mastering Kaio-Ken better than him, since she'd have to rely on it more than he would. As well as drinking the ultra divine water by Karin, having her hidden powers unlocked by Grand Elder Guru, and eventually bringing out her latent abilities by Old Kai. With her entire potential unleashed and her mastery of the Kaio-Ken, she'd be more than capable to enter the Tournament of Power.
What do you think of Chi-Chi training with Krillin, Tien, Yamcha and Chiaotzu for the year, while Piccolo trains Gohan? While Goku recovers in the hospital, Chi-Chi goes to Korin to drink the ultra divine water and has Goku train her in the Kaio-Ken during their trip to Namek - where she eventually has her hidden powers unlocked by Grand Elder Guru. But she doesn't have her latent abilities brought out by Old Kai until the Tournament of Power saga. Chi-Chi would also train with Goku and Gohan in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, because the Cell in this universe would also have her DNA (and have the ability to tap into the Kaio-Ken). Chi-Chi would even help Goten and Videl with their martial arts and ki training.
He already made chichi a z fighter
@@GiornoーGiovanna
Send me the link.
@@M.W.K6996 oh sorry RUclips deleted the masacoX part
shes a mother dumbass
Someone who appreciates the women power of chi chi
Saitama is a joke character. He only loses when its funnier for him to lose, like against the mosquito or the cat. One has stated in interviews that One Punch Man was created as a direct response to the classic "my dad can beat up your dad" fan arguments. He's literally the one hero who can beat anyone. That's the joke. Trying to argue power levels or abilities when talking about Saitama is totally missing both the point and the joke. Saitama exists to make these arguments pointless. Saitama is the super hero equivalent of Elder God Demonbane. Demonbane was designed to be the ultimate super robot that can beat any other super robot because Demonbane IS every super hero robot ever created. Its ridiculous. Saitama doesn't have power levels, feats, and anything like that. His entire power is the power to win with one punch. In the DB world Saitama's would body everone else then lose to Mr Satan. Why? Because its funnier that way. Saitama is literally a response to everyones "but actually..." arguement- stop worrying about the fictional powers of fictional characters. Remove your ego attached to your favorite character. It does not matter because in the end the one that wins is the one the writer wants to win. Nuff said.
Wouldn't say anyone
Either he has the feats to beat his opponent or he doesn't, it's as simple as that. Anything else is just head canon.
@@hundredpercentfaxspitting that's what generic power scalar say saitama will win against Goku because if he doesn't it would destroy his character and his entire purpose
@@elijahbrooks6887 When comparing characters you use feats and scaling not your ass. If you cannot list feats for Saitama that are greater than Goku's, then there is no evidence that Saitama would win. Saitama's character and purpose are completely irrelevant in a hypothetical comparison of power showings. Stop coping.
@@hundredpercentfaxspitting I don't even care about power scaling in general I feel as though this argument is f****** pointless
Goku has fought many battles and gotten hurt many times. Yes he gets stronger but his story is limited. One punch man has never gotten hurt in battles, and his story is meant for him to be the strongest being that its funny. Goku was never match to begin with ignoring everything in his arsenal that is no matter what unaffected if it's towards to saitama. Saitama was never meant to be beaten by anyone in this first place, his raw strength beats more than just God's, his punch I meant to be able to hit anything and everything even if it's lasers or a black hole meaning it's just not raw strength, his fists pulverizes all. Think of it as some sort of shield that covers his whole body and eliminates anything that would of hurt him if he was normal again.
he once got hurt by a cat scratch, technically making that cat the strongest being in existence.
He got hurt by cosmic garou who was like solar system level at a high ball
@@pixelspixelation6418 1- him being solar system isn't even lowballing him, its called creating your own headcanon where the character is weaker
his fist clash with saitama created a hole in the universe, destroying incomprehensible amount of stars and galaxies, more than your brain could imagine
if you throw some grains of sands in the sky, these said grains cover more galaxies than you can imagine.
2- saitama didn't get hurt at all, where did you get that from ?
@@yfamous1522 you can visibly see him take damage when garou copies saitama. Also even if he is universal at very best goku still stronger cuz hes multi universal.
@@pixelspixelation6418 you mean that panel everyone is talking about ? murata does these effects alot, its even in anime
why is it only and only in this panel blood ?
also if saitama did take damage from Garou, then this implies that he easily loses to OPM god, which cannot or won't happen because it goes against the purpose of the story and his gag
😂 i think u forgot Saitama didn't use his whole other arm during the entire fight against Garo and Saitama's punches still getting stronger means that he wasn't at his limit yet. As much as we want to compare the information gathered from the Garou fight, we can't bc Saitama still didn't fight at 100% seriousness. Over all tho, i think Saitama and Goku would spare and become best of pals
thats is fair point but at that moment Saitama was still at Multi galaxy level and goku at Multiversal level, if goku goes at his full power right off the bat and strikes saitama then one shots, he wins. But if goku went to suppress his power and fight saitama in equal stats saitama will just be Broly growing stronger every hit he takes to match goku's power.
@@kaoru6977 we all know kid Buu was a universal level threat which makes ssj3 universal because SSJ3 GOKU was keeping up with kidbuu and then BOG happens and Goku aquired Ssjgod which is thousands of times stronger then ssj3 and later on Goku absorbed the god ki in base form so now Goku in his base form alone is high uni and he doesn't need to go to full power to defeat the likes of Saitama one simple ki blast is enough no matter how durable Saitama
@@kaoru6977 going all out right from the get go isn't Goku's character tho. So if there was a fight, it would be like frighting Broly
@@syedfaheemshah9629 Saitama is still faster than the speed of light. It would take more than a ki blast if ur going with the logic that Goku's 1st move is a ki blast. Saitama went to the moon and back in a second. Saitama won't try to tank something like that. Saitama is super strong and can be dense sometimes, but he knows when he is in danger. His fight against Suiryu helped to show that he has some sort of fighting sense.
@@loopin269 I clearly mentioned that in this scenario we will both include Them with Character and behaviors and without their character and behavior and bro why are you even Saying allat Cuz Monkey beats baldy
Bro did more research on goku than he did saitama
ongggg
It’s true also you know if you just take a little peek at the channel name I think that explains it all
watch ToasterXD he explains how Goku vs Saitama would go and he ain’t fanboying he backs up everything in Opm and dbz
@@emilianomendoza6891he no diffs him anyway Saitama can't touch him
Saitama has no infinite ap feats he mentioned he is limitless so his max is infinite that does not mean he has infinite power how hard is that to understand goku has infinite ap and plus saitama is not a gagcharacter he does not have toon force
I think you misread Saitama's character. "Struggling" - he did not struggle at all in the Boros fight. He did not struggle much during the Garou fight. Saitama intentionally tried not to kill both of his opponents, because he WANTED to give them a chance to strengthen up, because all Saitama wants is a fight to push him, just like Goku. At no point was Saitama struggling in either fight. Secondly, Saitama does have a limit on power, but that limit would be so massive, it might as well be limitless. It's already been proven that Saitama's strength is powerful enough to destroy galaxies. This is the level of strength Goku has. Now, pair that knowledge with the fact that Saitama was still not going all out and can only continue to grow in strength at exponential rates even whilst fighting, the odds are EVEN IF Goku WAS stronger in the initial fight, Saitama's power would increase exponentially beyond Goku's and he would be able to take him out. And this is coming from a fan who loves both.
Saitama will literally destroy Goku since he can just increase his level of strength as Goku gets more powerful. Or in any case “get serious”
Man didn't even watch the video. Goku can destroy the universe. And if you didn't know the dbz universe is multiple times larger than the one punch man universe. Saitama isn't even close to Goku's strength
@@citygm5286 I watched the video. Maybe you didn't read my response. Or you just disagree, because that can happen too. I've been a DBZ fan since OG Dragon Ball. I consider it one of my all time top 3 animes. But I still would say Saitama is stronger. Based on feats shown thus far, Saitama isn't close to Goku, but again, Saitama has not even put forth 1% of his power (literally, even with Boros). Saitama is meant to be unbeatable. So should they ever clash, Goku would lose. Not to mention, EVEN IF Goku was stronger than Saitama, you forget that Saitama also grows in power as he fights someone very strong, and Goku would absolutely give him that chance. Saitama easily could catch up any gaps if given the chance if he was even behind at all. I also know some spoilers for OPM, which puts him at universe-destroying potential level as well.
@@WildWombats Maybe you just didn't see the graph in the video or the manga, but Garou and Saitama were equal for a while until Saitama surpassed him just because of his emotions, so i would not say he used 1% of his power. Goku in the manga aswell is considered to be low complex in power scaling so even if saitama is low universal he would get clapped by goku
@@citygm5286the graph wasn’t SAITAMA strength. It was from garou perspective. He noticed every time he would copy SAITAMA punch his next punch felt even stronger and stronger to the point it felt like their was no catching up
Something everyone forgets, saitama does nothing but hold back.
Im convinced his ability is just to be so strong to fight anyone he wants based off of his emotion
🤦
Now I know you have not seen one punch man at the start saitama was weaker than garuo when the fight started he just become stronger during the fight like any anime mc 💀
@@user.ayotimothy ???
@@user.ayotimothy I was joking my guy
@@user.ayotimothydude did you lost a braincell? He ha sbeen stronger than garou
Thousands of stars, you're kidding, no, that's incomprehensibly many galaxies, so many galaxies that you can't imagine
Yea destroyed every star and galaxy in a 93 billion light year radius because anything beyond that won't produce enough light to shine on earth.
@@firstclass000 and thats just lowballing his serios punch clash, he might have destroyed more than that, who knows
I honestly think these debates are pointless, comparing a guy who constantly breaks his limits to get stronger, whos series as hundreds of episodes vs a guy who in literal sense, removed his limits and is still early in his stroy is just stupid and pointless.
@@firstclass000 nope it isnt galaxy its mentioned that they are only stars ,even if you say it was galaxy but blast only teleported them to outer space not outer galaxy so that clash woul have destroyed earth too , so im saying its only stars that got destroyed ... but goatku , goatama both solos
@@nigge7132 you do realize that you can see other galaxies from outer space with your own eyes? If you have a telescope you can see the specific details.
@@nigge7132 Saitama destroyed every star, every galaxy visible in that area. In order for a galaxy or star to not be visible, it would have to be passed the 93 billion light year radius because that's how far a star has to be for it's light to not reach earth
It may have been a joke but Saitama in has base can't feel the pressure of a black hole (watch the anime) while Goku had to use Super Saiyan Blue to overcome the same weight and was shown to struggle resisting it. Saitama without the "rage boost" is as strong as Goku before Ultra Instinct, I didn't read the manga but I would say that Goku in the anime is about equal to Saitama in power at their peak.
Realistically Goku has a 50 percent chance of beating Saitama because if Goku does his usual antics then Saitama grows enough to high diff Goku
@@marcanthonyclaivil6527 Goku will do it because he enjoys fighting strong people and if he recognizes Saitama as someone strong who is not a threat he will start off slowly so that Saitama can reach his full power like he did with Jiren when they first fought to test his power.
if that was a real black hole the entirety of earth and everyone on boros’ ship wouldve been swallowed up in an instant (I watched the anime and read the manga)
@@under_cal I rewatched the moment and now I will back up my statement with my basic understanding of what a black hole is (as someone who didn't read the manga I know my place so I will only base it on what I saw). Black holes are usually round, the reason is that black holes are a single dot with infinite gravitational force, that pulls everything in. The circle around the black hole. is just an effect caused by the gravity of a single point. But that is not what we see, the reason is that this alien just created a zone where the gravitational force is increased to the point where it's equal to a black hole, in a limited area, and spread to the sides relatively to the ground. In other words, he created a black hole where the dot with infinite gravity is a carpet instead of a dot, that is why nothing is sucked in. Because instead of making a black hole, he created a carpet that presses you with the same amount of energy as a black hole. Regarding the monsters around, he probably just limited the range of the effect significantly to focus on Saitama.
@@anonymanonymus4706the black hole goku and jiren made was on a way bigger scale then that alien black hole he used on saitama
It says 2 comments but there is no comments shown 💀 youtube is drunk💀💀
Fr bruh 💀
Ong bro💀
SAITAMA would win 100%
Yup
+With one punch
@@abather11 proof?
Gonna close this :
Saitama trained for 3 years to break his limiters, the value of any living thing that restricts them and can't go any further. He gained inordinate power and a speed equal to that of light (against boros) and even enormously greater than light (against cosmic garou). Goku still has his limiters, there will be a final moment of any dbz where goku will have a power that is certainly phenomenal, but far from an infinite power either. While Saitama has destroyed his Limiters, which means he has none left = he can progress to Infinite. Saitama says he holds back for some fights, but he only gave his all twice, first against Boros, then against Garou in cosmic terror mode. EXCEPT that's not his true maximum power. (Garou obtained the help of "God" to destroy his limiters by the way), the curve of the scans facing cosmic Garou shows that even when garou manages to copy saitama at the same power or even above his level, saitama evolves exponentially faster than garou, (basically his limiter broke before garou's so he up + faster than him) (pax example with jupiter, his sneeze blew him away but since he continued to progress behind if he would have sneezed a second time (this one would have been even more powerful than the first one) to the point that if the fight went on forever, Saitama could have infinite power. Contrary to that, goku gains experience in his fights but much more slowly than Saitama, without breaking his limiters. So he has sick stats if Saitama still had his. BUT Goku also needs forms to increase in power during his fights and has even died in a few before returning from paradise. In short, if Goku does not kill Saitama for the first time, he can stay alive and improve infinitely until he gets bored with him and the one-shot. So I guess there's a big chance that Saitama will win.
You’re actually dumb
Saitamas biggest strength is his limitless growth, if he is challenged, if he actually has to try hard, he easily surpasses whatever is challenging him. And the strength he gains by that doesnt go away (unless undone by timetravel). That said, the only chance to beat Saitama would be to be far stronger than him before the fight and then end the fight in basicly one go, before Saitama has the chance to catch up and surpass his challenger. And before his fight with cosmic Garou he already has the strength to destroy the whole planet, maybe even stars or more, if he would want to, so it would need a force of several this amount to go against him.
So could Goku beat Saitama? Yes, if he went full power on him right at the getgo. Total annihilation.
But here is the point, Goku doesnt do this, he wants to enjoy his fights and fight his enemys on eye-to-eye level, using more strength, if needed, to lengthen the fight. You can call it his biggest weakness against Saitama, because this way he gives Saitama the opportunity to grow and surpass his power level, each time he gradually gets stronger to meet Saitamas newly grown strength. Until Goku reaches his peak, which Saitama then surpasses easily again with his limitless growth. And even if Goku then finds more strength, like we seen a lot of times, Saitama just outgrowths it again by multitude, leaving Goku beat in the Dust. or the whole multiverse destroyed at that point.
So ye, taking Gokus personality into account, he would ultimately loose against Saitama. Vegeta would propably have a better chance, because he tends to go big power against weak looking enemys he doesnt want to waste much time on, which would be his first impression of Saitama, like so many before him.
Agreed
Saitama was angry so rage boost.
Base Goku easily being Universal🗿
Goku and vegeta will be cocky enough to let him grow like they did to cell and moro.And they will regret it once he learns how ki and god ki works.In fact he wont even need ki.Granola,gas non of them had it and they still humiliated goku and vegeta
@@SCP3143. You have never read the manga of dragon ball. Everyone has ki in Dragon Ball Saitama would not because he is not in the same universe. Gas specifically shot a ki beam at Vegeta.
You obviously didn't take into account the manga cuz if you did you would know that Saitama beats Goku even with Ultra Instinct just because he can take more damage and not get bruised. Goku was killed before, not to mention, who was the last big bad that Goku defeated by himself? Saitama had somebody copy his own power against him and they still couldn't get the job done. The most they did was tear his outfit to shreds. The man didn't draw blood once in that entire Garou fight yet you say that fight "drew out his maximum" which it didn't.
Nah, Saitama has only faced galaxy level opponents, and if he’s able to keep up with himself then, that means he’s above the opponent, so that would put him in upper galaxy level.
Goku has died multiple times to save the Earth/Universe. But can Endurer much more. Goku has tanked multiple attacks that could destroy the entire universe. For example; Buuhan. He made multiple dimensions collapse on the Dragon Ball universe, yet base current Goku can easily step on him.
Watch Dragon Ball.
@@randomanimations882 bro you missed the entire point. My point was Saitama has not been seen taking damage in anyway ( and no him spitting out blood from the garou fight is not him taking damage cuz you see the next panel that showed Saitamas face unscratched at all. Goku as you stated has been killed multiple times to save the world compared saitama that has literally obliterated any big bad BY HIMSELF( not with Genos or one his friends behind him waiting to get in the fight, such as vegeta does with alot of Gokus villains).
@@sitntalkwitsiah2068 shi he gone take damage against goku he a normal human going against a universal person in his base form
@@sitntalkwitsiah2068 db verse scales hella hella hella hella higher than opm cope nigga
@@AokijiIceAge a normal human that took a gamma ray burst to the face and kept fighting.
Lmao this gotta be the most bias death battle on RUclips.
He said he's gonna talk about their weaknesses but only gave one weaknesses that goku allow his foe to get stronger or give them a fair fight. But forgot bout many much more weaknesses. Like can't breathe in space, can't tank poison, can't tank the heat of the sun, can't tank a punch to the heart. Lmao boy bye. Saitama solo goku.
you didn’t watch BOG goku was breathing in space and goku could put energy around his body to make the poison irrelevant
There’s no feats that make saitama beat goku
@@AokijiIceAge and there's no feats goku can do to beat saitma lmaoo.
@@TheSidekickking there’s hella feats I just wanna hear 2 saitama feats
@@AokijiIceAge he deflect a star level attack with his shockwave, and break into a pocket dimension all because he heard voices.
Even the most powerful of attacks that even the most powerful of celestial beings can't take with saitama could literally everyone dies on planet Earth during the saitama versus cosmic garou
Whoever wins depends on which series the fight takes place in
If the one punch man series does this crossover? Saitama wins
If the Dragon Ball Z series does this crossover? Goku wins
Why?
Main character plot armor
Either way tho Saitama is my favorite so I’d say he’d win
Not to mention joke characters can gain a power unimaginable sometimes
@@epsilon-6thevillageidiots143goku solo
Vs battles are removed from plot
Honestly yeah because they’re not gonna have the main character of their show lose
The amount of cocky OPM fanboys.. In his fight w/ Cosmic Fear Garou, although he was using one hand, the fact his friend died made Saitama amplify his strength by his emotions. The mot he did while 100% being stronger than his full power if Genos didn't die was destroy some stars. LITERALLY GOHAN FUSED WITH BUU'S SCREAM ALONE DID MORE DAMAGE, A SCREAM. At the start of DBS, Goku amplifies his strength so much he becomes a god, a feat literally so strong the creator of DB confirms he can just punch Vegitto (the one who ABOLUTELY overpowers Gohan absorbed Buu) at that part of the series and kill him. And his fight with Beeru the destroyer with them both significantly holding back was DESTROYING THE UNIVERSE LITERALLY STATED TO BE INFINITE IN SIZE.. Then he unlocked SSB multiplying his strength by 50x. Then in the tournament of power Jiren, at that point of the story can easily defeat BOTH Vegeta and Goku, EASILY. Goku then gets Ultra instinct being enough to overpower Jiren if he wasn't as injured a he was. THEN HE MASTERS ULTRA INSTINCT. In the Moro arc he's so strong that Moro can probably one punch Jiren tries to punch goku in his ab, LITERALLY NOT DOING ANYTHING TO GOKU, he still gets more and more powerful. Goku at the end in base can 1 shot God ki Goku 1 punch in base without the trillion times power multipliers.+The power amplifier for Saitama is only because Genos dies, that will not happen in the fight c/ Goku is not evil.. End of story base goku ONE PUNCHES Saitama.
Theres a reaon why people who do the research always say goku wins
Saitama can just throw away Goku's Kamehameha, and even though Goku can adapt, it will be hard to adapt to an infinitely growing power, even though genos won't die, it said "emotions", so if Saitama experiences thrill, his power might still grow high, even higher than when he fought garou, and he can just create afterimages and catch Goku offguard with that and punch him from behind, even DEATH counter might kill Goku, he may one shot goku in his base form before he gets to any other forms
😂
@@yogesh7421 Goku rider alert
@@2x2x2x2TSBG Saitama Rider Alert
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Exactly😂
Goku is so strong that he was able to create a Galaxy Justin ultra instinct omen
Not even close to galaxy
@@GiornoーGiovanna galaxy level is fodder to goku anyways
No that was him absorbing energy and it was not a whole Galaxy if it was then Goku would be like the biggest sun ever
@@jakobejordan471 he just showed his aura
I got that from somebody else
i don't understand how many hardcore goku fanboys can't wrap their head around the fact that saitama's ability is literally being able to overcome his opponent no matter who they are, kind of like that of doomguy
True, his lack of feats doesn't mean anything because the sole purpose of his character is literally being the strongest no matter what or who he's facing and it's not even a gag.
He wins if goku messes around with him long enough to get on his level but if goku just one shots him and dosent hold back right at the beginning saitama wouldn’t have enough power yet to beat him
This is just not true 💀
@@JustAChannel111 goku wins either way. 4D+ > inf 3D
@@ottersovercats2518 I get that but I’m just saying if goku doesn’t power up then saitama could one punch his base eventually but ye goku beats saitama
*goku and saitama facing each other*
saitama: *stomach rumbles*
goku: "you hungry bro?"
saitama: "well, yeah haven't eaten yet"
goku: "oh i know a place cmon lets eat!"
*end of fight*
During the fight with Cosmic Garou who had the power of GOD with him, Garou outright said Saitama's punches kept hitting harder meaning Saitama was still not at his full power. During the fight Saitama also only used 1 hand and kept his promise to not kill Garou. Not only that but Saitama was able to punch Garou from the future, a literal time travelling punch.
This is how the fight would go. Goku would most likely start out on top and giving saitama a challenge. As the fight goes on Saitama realizes just how powerful Goku is and starts ramping up his power like he did with Garou. Saitama keeps ramping up and before you know it, Goku cannot keep up with Saitama anymore and then Goku will most likely say he cannot beat Saitama and they just become pals or something
what’s stopping goku from one shotting him though
@@TheFakeMakotoYuki goku always go slow at first he want challenges
@@TheFakeMakotoYuki Goku is the same as saitama he wants a challenge so he starts the fight off kidding around.
Also I doubt any of goku's attacks would even damage Saitama given that no attack throughout OPM has been able to damage saitama. The closest anyone has ever came was cosmic garou that looked to slightly damage Saitama but after that none of Garou's attacks hurt Saitama.
@@knull416 no limits fallacy, just cause we haven't seen him take damage doesnt mean he cant. And idek why ur comparing it as if cosmic garou is anywhere near as strong as dbs characters.
@@nationsbot Indeed Cosmic Garou negs entire DBS verse because everything in that universe is as fragile as toilet paper.
Goku stans do the most to try to convince themselves he wins lmao
feats?
Goku fans have the feats to back it up. You Saitama dickriders rely on misread feats, and no limits fallacy’s to win lmao sit down clown
You have nothing more to say?
Rule: Saitama cannot win simple battles but will always win fights without a scratch.
Goku took 12 years to get to Frieza’s level and Saitama 3 years to get much higher. Saitama ,in these three years, started losing hair and looked at the back of his head to check hair loss using one mirror. He turned his head at the speed of light and managed to not snap his neck too. The speed of light, time travel, and manipulating portals is a reality bending ability Saitama has since he started training. Also Saitama works with other heroes to fight GOD and plan destroy him. We all at least know the idea of God; fully omniscient and infinitely powerful being that created the universe which is much harder to do than destroy it.
Yah kami is also a god so he must be infinitely powerful too /
@@HinodeiI'm a neutral person in the discussion on who wins. Your fact is correct but goku isn't as strong as Kami. Goku isn't the strongest person in his universe, but this is a good thing as there is still room for him to grow. Depending on how you set the standards of the fight and how you think of it you can get 2 different winners. So it's best to wait for Saitama to show further feats and for Goku to reach the level of Kami. If Saitama can defeat the literal God of his universe that means he can defeat Kami. Which is stronger than current goku. But if Goku grows stronger than Kami, it's up for debate again.
@@fjshrederr4848 are you genuinely retarded? Goku surpassed kami in original dragon ball. Goku in more than trillions^ of times more powerful now.
Kami is weak compared to raditz
Kami couldn't beat king piccolo and had to have hoku do it (dragon ball)
Being a god doesn't mean omnipotent. Gods in fiction have different power levels, unless opms god is said to be omnipotent then hes not omnipotent.
@@fjshrederr4848 saitama is not beating goku sorry
@@Some1Smart Like I said I feel like it's a neutral debate
can goku breath in space yet? because saitama and cosmic garou can! if the answer is no, then it looks like saitama and cosmic garou are stronger than xeno, perfected, autonomous, mastered ui goku.🤯
The ability to breathe in space doesn’t make saitama the winner by any means lol. That’s js a single advantage
Saitama doesn’t breathe in space he just holds his breath. He did this vs Boris when kicked to the moon.
Just because a whale can hold its breath for hours doesn’t mean it breathes underwater idiot.
Goku solos, cry about it
@@SaiyanMotion Goku has drowned before tho💀He's not surviving 2 minutes in deep space🤣🤣
@@firstclass000 why would the fight get to deep space?
@@ottersovercats2518 because Saitama at that point would break any planet they were on if they fought
Saitama is in a constant state of ultra instinct
You are. dumb
Ultra instinct Goku can Dodge pretty much anything
Where did you get that info? Oh yea, from your ass.
Making stuff up.
@@ottersovercats2518 No. He just never uses it
ruclips.net/user/shortsxq6zJvqIgmo?feature=share
heres how the fight will go
goku wont power up at the start cause classic goku
he will fight with his base and saitama will adapt to that and keep getting stronger and as goku keeps changing forms he wont be able to keep up with saitamas growth and finally goku will grow tired and wont be able to block saitamas punches anymore and boom fight over
Base goku negs
you’ve heavily lowballed Goku’s fighting ability. in what world is Goku gonna get tired at the start of a fight
LOL Mui Goku is leagues above blue, not even gods can perfect ui. Saitama could never catch up to that gap, cry and cope
@@SlowkeyyGD he never stated "goku will lose at the start of the fight" bozo, he basically said eventually overtime goku will grow tired
no just no... Saitama only had insane growth in power because of an uproar of emotions.
Saitama wins for one reason. Goku would, without a doubt, give him time to grow.
Your going to have to prove that his power growth is better than Goku’s power growth.
Your forgetting each of goku’s transformations make him significantly stronger each time saitama catches up goku can power up
@@Screen_solar if it was a serious fight, Goku would allow him to grow, but until he realizes he might lose, he will definetly one shot saitama before he gets a chance, Goku may at the start let Saitama struggle to grow quickly, but until he gets pushed to a god form, while he notices that he was curbstomping him in base, he might actually finish the fight with MUI or TUI
Wouldn't last long enough for him to catch up
goku is a higher dimensional being saitama can't defeat him
Goku get beat by Jiren at first, Moro, Broly, Granola, Gas and Black Frieza but a character like Saitama that has no power cap and power increases like crazy in milliseconds can't beat Goku lol and then why are the people still calling Saitama a gag character, boi if a Broly that had way less training than Goku could in minutes out power and beat Goku and Saitama can't lol
False equivalence. Broly isn’t Saitama.
@@ottersovercats2518 And Saitama isn't Broly lol
@@Junior2000625 I don’t get your point. They are two different characters with two different biologies, in two different stories written by two different people.
You gotta realize that Saitama was handicapped because he had to use one hand which means he still wasn't fighting at full power
so all might using his 1 arm while fighting all for one was not him going all out with the power he had?
@@scottbranam8306bro you seriously watch the fight all might was on the brink of death and he used all his energy for United States of smash
@@Ratedsuperstar4497 I said with all the energy he has, not all of his energy, just the amount he had at that time
@@scottbranam8306 no actually all might was fighting all out against afo but you were trying to say he was not going all out
So what your saying is saitama is using and infinitly small amount of his power after his freind was killed in front of him and he was shown actually putting some effort that makes no sense
All I’m hearing is that not only could saitama learn what goku has learned and progress faster then goku did, but also unlike goku saitama ain’t never died fam. I think saitama clears
dumb logic. so someone died more times than another person…how does that make them weaker??? Goku’s first 2 deaths were sacrifices, Sailor Moon sacrificed herself, Alucard killed himself over 300M times, so now are they weaker than building lvl characters who never died? no. so dying many times means nothing.
@@SlowkeyyGD pretty sure your K/D ratio is a valid metric for a versus
@@24KLuxury no it isn’t. If a unskilled player plays against people who are even more unskilled and wins, does that make them better than a pro who plays against more skilled pros and loses?
How do you come to this conclusion?
Saitama still Solos
saitama is galaxy goku is multivesal even ichigo solos opm as ichigo is high universal
@@theuglynoobisback saitama is planetary to multi planetary. Saitama would most likely struggle against saiyan saga goku
Garou solos everyone but saitama
@@firstclass000 Goku Ichigo opm god
@@lordredx4786 that’s low balling
Those kids are talking about saitama having infinite strength because he broke his limiter, but breaking your limiter means you have infinite space for improvement, not infinite strength 💀
First of all, Sitama not only broke his limiter, he removed it completely, and we say limitless strength because his strength will never stop increasing, if he fights an opponent equal or stronger then him, then he will surpass them in less then seconds! and that imply to his durability and stamina etc. too!
@@Kardam_LuciferSaitama has never faced someone stronger than him so there is no way of knowing that
@@OyinkansolaAgboola He hasn't fought anyone stronger than him because he can get stronger than anyone he fights, no matter who he fights; as we see in the fight between Saitama and Garou, Grou copied Saitama's strength, but Saitama still got stronger all the time!
@@Kardam_LuciferYou are claiming he would get stronger no matter who he fights meanwhile he has just one fight against a character that was barely keeping up with him.
@@OyinkansolaAgboola A character who was copying his strength, but Saitama was getting stronger so fast that the strength he copied becomes insignificant infront of Saitama's new growing strength! Saitama was getting stronger so fast that Garou couldn't even keep up with Saitama!
And yes he will get stronger than whoever he's fighting at that time in seconds! Strength gaps doesn't matter to Saitama!
id say 1 thing for goku, that he doesnt hold back which gives siatama lot of opportunity to scale his power
goku holds back almost every fight he has tho
But goku would not hold back so much he gets one shot he would see saitamas growth and fight but saitama will never achive infinite strength his potential is infinite which is different from infinite ap which goku has
@@monkepopbloon2307 I just can’t image saitama dying you know what o mean
Saitama literally has limitless power. That information alone should be enough for any person in their right mind to understand how powerful Saitama is.
If i explain this using science;
The stars we see in the night sky are not just actually a single star but multiple galaxy, although most of the star we see are from the milky way because of the light pollution, some of the stars are cluster huge galaxy some bigger than the milky way so far away that it appears to look like a single star because of the distance and light polution.
The distance of the stars and galaxy that we see at night is more than thousand or billions and more of lightyears far away from earth. Some of the star is so far away that it is basically impossible to reach in the first place.
What Saitama did is throw a punch that generate an explosion and a shockwave enough to travel the distance of those galaxy so far away from earth in just a matter of seconds.
I am gonna make this simple, Saitama destroyed billions of galaxy with just the shockwave of his punch instantly. Instantaneously reaching all the star creating a huge circular void implying all life on that direction has been disintegrated including light itself by the shockwave of the explosion coming from a single punch. We can assume that the speed of the explosion by at least
100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000-
the speed of light or more. It happen instantaneous.
The point of the impact of the punch is hundreds of times much stronger, just pointing it out. And this was just Saitama throwing a punch. A physical attack, not magic, not energy blast or anything, just a punch.
If Blast didn't bend the space itself by redirecting the explosion in a single point, it imply that the punch of Saitama and Garou generate power enough to destroy the entire universe in a matter of seconds.
Fist Clash always happen in dragon ball but In 1 punch man, when it does, the shockwave destroyed millions of star creating a giant void in space with just a single punch clash. And that is before Saitama's exponential growth implying Saitama's "limitless power" as his strength grew 100x or more and keeps getting stronger by the second than Garou who harness the energy of the univrese and is using the energy of the entire universe itself. Saitama strength does not grow with training or anything, it just grow.
No limit, it means Saitama can't be compared to Goku to begin with. Saitama's strength can't be define. "limitless" he'd kill Goku in one punch.
Goku's power has been described as, and shown as limitless a dozen times over. not a real argument
also the creating a giant void in space thing #1 did happen AFTER the power boost, idfk how you got that mixed up, and isnt even a big feat. from just like 8 punches goku was getting ready to destroy half the entire universe. which btw is significantly larger than our universe. and this was before he was fully powered up during battle of gods.
shockwaves being able to disintigrate matter? goku did that with his EYES during namek arc.
you're describing feats that goku eclipsed when he was literally millions of times weaker than he is now
@@Vaultyboi22 lets be honest a primate is a devolved version of humans, devolved means not as good, so its just a monkey vs a human, the results of the fight are set just by them existing as what they are.
That just shows they have no control over their power if saitama can use his power effectively at 100 % without destroying everything around him they he will be powerful
@@Vaultyboi22 Goku or saiyan's power concept is their transformation. Please, don't go out creating your own story about dragon ball. Vegeta himself said it back in the power of tournament, "Saiyan's ability is to go beyond their limit" and this is shown many times as via transformation. Meaning Saiyan's have a limit that they need to push thru to whether they can go beyond or not.
SAITAMA on the other hand simply has "No" LIMIT. meaning he can reach the point of destroying the universe in just one punch which was shown on the panel before his exponential growth. His punch before any of that growth, destroyed millions of star. If you don't know how big the universe is, the shockwave alone coming from a single punch, just one punch destroyed millions of star. Such an easy concept, limitless. The author even wrote a graph to explain Saitama's growth and the funny thing is, Saitama's graph suddenly just went upward. And the feat is before his exponential growth, his power is more than 100x stronger after destroying millions of star so if Saitama and garou were to clash another punch. Garou would die at the same time, does the universe. Garou is using the power of the universe itself by the help of god. It's not just the sun, it's the universe itself.
And if you are gonna mention feats, Vegito failed to defeat goku black resulting in calling Zeno.. That alone imply the current limit of Saiyan's on that Episode. Saitama on the other hand does not have limit, it does not matter which enemy, he can either go Lv 999999 and then jump to Lv 9999999999999999999999999999999 onward. INFINITY. simple, the number does not matter anymore.
As i said, The world no limit alone is enough to explain saitama's strength meaning, Goku is a mismatch from the very beginnning
Saiyan power concept - Transformation
Saitama's power concept - No Limiter.
@@slayer8162 Saitama himself must have never thought that he can destroy stars. He has full control over his power, if not, the Galaxy would have been destroyed a long time ago.
Saitama is just like any other mortal, he got his emotion above him because of the death of a close friend or we should just say, a family which is a very normal and human thing to do. And the murderer of his friend is right in front of him. Even though he became so powerful, the human way of thinking stays with him. Saitama never left the ground.
He can hold an egg without breaking it just like any other human, i mean, you must have seen season one right? Although he can run faster than speed of light, he never usually did unless he is fighting someone fast. He knows exactly that his strength can do damage around him.
Let us put it this way for you to understand.
Saitama can go from Lv 1 to Lv 9999999999999999999999 just like that and the opposite. It's just the vessel we call Saitama has no Limit meaning he can grow as much as he can without doing anything.
Bro when I look at your pfp I knew who you will be supporting😂
Right gotta keep the brand clean🧹🧼
You can’t win in this argument- Saitama wins, you piss off Goku fanboys, Goku wins, you piss off Saitama fanboys.
But fuck it im gonna end the debate rn😁
Saitama has different stages to his strength. We’ve seen serious and normal, but there are still more stages which we haven’t seen. Goku though can power up and give himself a boost. But proven in the CG vs S fight, CG pretty much was a good level threat and killed several heros. Boros full power is about SSG level, and Goku would take a bit to get to SSB. We saw that while Boros was talking, Saitama attacked. I can make a guess that Saitama would take the time Goku takes to power up, to attack. Saitama definitely would struggle, but Goku still wouldn’t win. Goku has god like powers, but he isn’t a god. Saitama though is a god in a human body. I understand Goku almost destroyed universes, but Saitama and Cosmic V hair destroyed stars, which created more universes. So if they can possibly create universes, then they can destroy them. And about 60% of the fight, Saitama wouldn’t be serious, but if he was serious the whole time, Goku would probably be killed before he could power up. If they both start at a base form, Goku would take a bit to get to SSB or SSG which would’ve left his guard down, and would give Saitama the chance to strike.
Saitama wins High-Extreme diff
Stay mad🖕
That's extemely wrong, there's literally no statment or feat that puts Boros at SSG level as most that we see him do is threaten the surface of the Earth with his big ass cannon attack, and CG was able to destroy a good chunk of stars but it was never stated that he made universes because of that, even if he had, he's still below base Goku in the anime who absorbed the God ki into his base form which at worst pits him 10x universal in base and at best multiversal due the multiple statements of universe 7 being infinite in size, either in the daizenshuu or in fusion reborn, also the transformations Goku has don't take that much time as we've seen them activate them in response to an attack in a second or two, that and Goku has better wincons overall like the Mafuba, blitzing, or using ranged ki attacks
@massoik4411 stay mad 🖕
In the fact that you casually brushed off the fact that he broke his limiter and now has infinite potential is really dumb improves further that you don't know how to scale and you're going purely off of which one you like more which is pretty much everyone at this day and age
so he broke hs limtier and saiyans always break there limits
your biased he obv that goku has way better feats
saitama is solar system level and goku low multiversal
I literally had a power scaler help me write this video lol
So? Saiyans break their limits all the time. He has no feats that put him even above Goku's base, deal with it.
I figured that goku would win. Gokus speed feat in the buu saga alone where he is 4.38 Quadrillion times the speed of light meaning could probably just end up speed blitzing him. Also its smart that you used anime goku.... Manga goku is over kill ngl. W video though its sad i couldnt hop on a little bit and give a little bit of my own take but maybe next time.
Imaging that plus saiyan multipliers
Thanks for watchin
But saitama is more durable nothing that goku throws at him will work
@@onepain2217 how exactly? Goku should be more durable than infinite zamas at this point
@@onepain2217 goku is stronger and he could damage saitama ap=durability common sense
I don't understand any of these points you're skipping over huge amounts of detail and downgrading every single little bit if shown detail from Saitama and your name is dragon ball related so I don't know what everybody else is expecting except for this guy to be Goku cock writing the entire time am I the only one that noticed that he hyped up a Goku more than saitama
He didn’t hype up Goku he simply stated feats. Sorry you dickriding Saiturdma fans wanna keep wanking the same star level feat w your galaxy character but facts remain that Goku is massively stronger, now die and cry.
If Saitama let his growth rate power grow for weeks he would win since he has no limit. And when he stops doing it it’s his new base power
Dude, at the anime he at least doubled his power by second. He would overcome goku in seconds, even with a initial huge difference in power, which i seriously doubt it exists.
@@felipeeg526 the cope is crazy, saitama aint beating goku
@@Some1Smart evidence? I’m open for discussion
@@felipeeg526 gap is too big, even if he powered up for eternity he still aint coming close.
@@nationsbot kkkkkkk DUde doesn't know how math works. Numerically doesn't make any sense what you just said, expnential by second would be 2^n. In 10 seconds he would be 1034x stronger than initial. In 5 minutes he would be so superior that Goku would be beaten a long time ago. And in anime reality doesn't make sense too, the gap isn't that big. Even Granolah is stronger than Goku and didn't destryed the universe, planets or has any universal feat. Characters can be stronger than him even without feats. Saitama never took damage, has strenght to destroy Jupiter with a sneeze and he doesn't have known limits. If he doesn't kill Goku instantly, it's just a matter of seconds. Sry, i love Goku, but Saitama is just too OP. Other characters, tho, would probably beat today's Saitama.
The People saying Saitama can beat him say that uf Goku starts at base he would just catch up.
Goku in base in DBS is high universal.
Edit:*His base has been scaled to multiversal*
(Shook an infinite universe,and his power was felt outside of that infinite universe and shook other infinte realms)
And Saitama is galaxy level.
(During the fight with Garou he was using his full power,and was destroying thousands of stars with star level and later grew more)
Goku would just defeat Saitama during the first second of them fighting.
So far ive only heard from Goku fans that he shakes things. I haven't yet heard anyone say he if he ever destroyed anything. Saitama and Garou both destroy billions of stars and galaxies with one hand. Idk if goku can do that with one hand.
@@firstclass000 you have to destroy or significantly affect sometthing to be on that level
@@firstclass000 when did Saitama destroy galaxies?You know what a tar is?
@@YaboyiNathan remember that hole they made?
@@firstclass000 my guy,he was Destroying stars
Goku ssj2 > Saitama
Goku base>saitama
Buu saga ssj2 Goku is enough to beat him tbh
@Christopher Tran not really, you could argue ssj3 goku but I lean towards saitama in that argument
I think saitama wins he breaks logic and grows like broly
@@Chris_HT buu saga is very planetary in ssj 2😂😂
There’s a massive thing that a lot of commenters and the video are leaving out. Goku and Saitama both have limitless potential, but there is a huge difference between them. Goku’s potential is gradual and comes with training, near death experiences, etc. Saitama’s potential is immediate. When his enemies power up, he does automatically. The graph in One Punch showed clearly that every time Garou powered up (even to a point Saitama was previously lower then), Saitama’s power scaled not only with him, but constantly ABOVE him. That’s just how his character was designed. Goku’s power level would just be something that Saitama automatically adjusts to as he has in every other fight.
saitama is 3D goku is 5D; next topic lol.
And what you said is a massive NFL, literally between Goku and Saitama's best feats there are many inaccessible gaps (An inaccessible gap is a gap that even putting several sets of infinities together would not come close to closing the gap)
@@yeikelamores6085 There is no gap between Goku and Saitama’s strength. Saitama’s sole purpose from creation is to be the strongest person alive. He was a gag character that never even has to take his fights seriously. Goku strength is and always has been capped. He may have unlimited potential, but that potential is earned through hard work and battles. Saitama doesn’t have that issue. He is stronger because he was written to be so. No matter his opponents, he will win. The same can’t be said about Goku. Not even close.
@@kenneth3836 all of that is completely false, plus you're using NFL, plus in vs fighting, the idea of how a character is written doesn't matter a shit, plus One explicitly said that Saitama is not a Gag character (plus he literally doesn't has shown feats worthy of a Joke character)
@@yeikelamores6085 Please tell me exactly when ONE said he wasn’t a gag character. Because I can give you an exact quote from one of his hour long interviews- “One Punch Man is the opposite; it’s a manga in which we observe what happens when a nonsensically strong guy - whose existence is a kind of a gag - get thrown into a dark, serious world, where monsters are attacking humans.” Saitama is a gag character, and ONE has gone on record multiple times calling himself a gag manga artist.
I think saitama would win because in the manga it stated that he will always gain power exponentially until he surpasses his opponent, he got this power from god whom saitama has defeated. Also saitama is a joke character, like bugs bunny but in anime and the comedy is that he is just not able to be beaten. Also he gains power more the more emotion he feels and against goku he’s gonna be feeling very exited.
goku would just hit arale up done is done dbs wins
1. Exponential growth can’t be scaled onto Power Scaling tiers such as Planet level, Moon level, and such, so we don’t even know if Saitamas exponential growth can even catch up, since he’s still on a dimensionality of AP z that’s lower than gokus (He has 3D AP but Goku can affect infinite 4D spaces and hypothetically cross an infinite distance)
2. Saitama is NOT a joke character, there’s no hints to that or even his whole scheme of a character as a whole, unless you think every since he’s in is depicted as joking, than Genos’ death meant nothing because Saitama getting mad would be a JOKE based off that logic, which just doesn’t add up or correlate
Overall, he’s Dimensionally below Goku, and he has no powers or techniques he could use except his fists and his growth rate, which is not enough to beat the likes of Goku let alone anyone remotely stronger or near gokus level.
Goku broke a manga panel in db, ggs gokus outerversal
@@Chris_HT Saitama is slightly a gag but that doesnt mean shit lol
@@randomspots1706 Yeah hes not mich of a gag character, Saitama loses this easily
Bro.
Saitama is confirmed to have endless energy AND is trying to hold back even on his "Serious" moves.
This dude is MANY MANY times stronger than he's letting on
Goku ain't got no chance 💀
Hey atleast one of you has a working brain
Saitama’s got no real feats looking good against scrubs. At best he fights a Buu level character (galaxy buster). Galaxy busters are like ants to just Red Goku, but you wanna match him vs UI Goku? LMAO
@@lorenpunk83 I agree.
MUI goku shook an infinite void.
So he filled infinity with his energy, then shook it.
Its an interesting debate until realize SSJ2 goku from the buu saga would like outbox him cuz Goku has been training his whole life in martial arts and fighting insane threats he didn't even know existed before
Check goku vs saitama by anime balls deep
People forget that on paper, Saitama shouldn't have even beat Garou. Garou was a master martial artist, able to predict, copy, and even redirect Saitama's punches. He had far more abilities, being able to teleport and create black holes and life eradicating blasts with his punches. And to top it all off, he could straight up copy Saitama's strength.
Imagine any other character going up against someone with massively better fighting skill, way better battle IQ, way more abilities, and able to instantly copy their strength. Almost no one is winning that, best case scenario they barely win with extreme difficulty as well as help from allies or some other plot armor. Saitama beat him down like it was nothing, he wasn't even breathing hard.
@@Supreme_Court. The version of Goku I described here was Galaxy level btw and not even ssj 3 but like Goku would end the fight if he notices Saitama catching up too fast , similar to what with Kefla , and the only reason he didn't kill Broly off the Bat is because he was being led astray by Frieza (HIS ARCH NEMESIS) and Goku just wanted a good fight. But when Goku realized that he was growing too fast , dude would power up into SSJ3 if Saitama caught up to him in ssj 2 and one shot him
@@nicholasaugello2534 This doesn't really have anything to do with my comment. I was talking about how much of a factor fighting ability would actually be, not scaling.
But no, Goku and Vegeta both ran for their lives from a 10x planetary attack even though it meant leaving their friends to die. The galaxy scaling is from a misinterpretation that Buu was one shotting galaxies left and right when he actually was destroying hundreds of planets over years which eventually lead to whole galaxies being wiped out.
Goku finished Kefla the way he did because he would've been one tapped by her. He wasn't trying to stop her from catching up to him, she already had. Against Broly, he was lead there by Frieza, but while fighting and clearly seeing his potential he actively stopped Vegeta from finishing Broly off because he wanted him to get stronger and be a better opponent. Then when Broly did just that, he didn't and couldn't one shot him, he had to fuse. It is not in Goku's nature to just immediately one shot a new interesting opponent that has high potential, assuming Saitama could actually be one shotted anyway.
And Goku could've tanked that explosion if he had his ki shield up but even then because Buu was actually stronger than him and he couldn't breathe in space he had to bail and as for Saitama if he were to try to fight regular not blood lusted vs Garou , Saitama would've not beaten because he only grew that much cuz he got mad and the same would happen with potentially just super Saiyan Goku from the Buu saga MAYBE Saitama's natural growth would press Goku into SSJ2 but I think he'd do it in regular super Saiyan cuz that version of Goku in base is like stronger than Frieza who for sure could delete star systems, not on par with what Saitama did but Goku would upscale from that Frieza on a highball in the cell games
These 2 should NEVER be compared, and here is why.
Goku is a character built up over time as a child. He started out weak and busted his ass to gain the power he has today. He has friends and family he cares about and wants to protect, he is kind and good, but also serious when it matters. He is not above killing his opponent, but he also would prefer to give everyone a second chance at being good.
Siatama is a character with very little back story, gained his "unlimited power" in a span of 3 years with sit ups, push up and running. Siatama has few friends and from what we can tell, family is non existent in his story so far. Everything is a joke to him, and the times he does get serious, even that is somehow turned into comedy.
You will NEVER convince a OPM fan that Siatama can be beaten or lose a fight, trying to do so is like trying to have a logic and scientific discussion with a flat Earther. Never going to go anywhere, and they will repeat the same 2-3 phrases every time. So this whole topic is pointless as its comparing fiction to non fiction.
Bro facts mfs keep saying Saitama sneezed and blew up a planet that would be impressive if it wasn't for the fact that n*ggas in dragon ball were blowing up planets every Tuesday like it's a holiday. King Vegeta blew up 3 with a wave of his hand and Beerus completely destroyed a planet with a sneeze.
Saitama doesn't compare
Considering Saitama was fighting in space like dbz and handicapped himself while being kinda serious ehh. Goku might be “stronger” but has crap durability so a few punches from saitama should send him over. Not to mention Saitama seems to have this rapid adaptation ability cause he flew by Garou who was using an ability to match Saitamas power
Goku doesn't have crap durability also ultra instinct exists
@@elijahaaron6949 in comparison to SAITAMA and even Frieza his durability is crap. Not to mention Ultra Instinct does exist but Jiren who doesn’t use it was able to match it. So if SAITAMA was to exponentially increase his power like against Garou he would be at a similar level
@@avionmerced8946Saitama can also copy martial arts techniques just by seeing them used once like he did against Garou with the Reversal of Causality Punch. Saitama could copy UI if he wanted to
@@justsomeguywithatoupee8244 I already said that…
@@avionmerced8946 Nah, what you said is Saitama would simply grow to match Goku's UI, what I said is that Saitama could straight up copy UI similarly to how he did Garou's martial arts.
Goku hasn't done anything impressive with physical strength ALONE WITH NO HELP. GOKU CANT PUNCH SO HARD BY HIMSELF LIKE WHEN SAITAMA PUNCH A STAR LEVEL ATTACK AND DELFECT IT. SO I KNOW FOR A FACT GOKU KI BLAST CANT DO SHET😊
Saitama meat rider 🥱
ah yes training at 100x earth's gravity is not physically impressive
@SaikoSocial it's not enough to overpower Saitama impressive feat by himself. That 100x gravity still isn't stronger than destroying a moon with four fingers. Try again.
I think you guys are really illiterate and can't read title and direction.
I said who punch the hardest by himself with no help from anyone else
Superman, Saitama, or goku. Wtf you slow dude?
@@saikosocialP4The suit that goku and vegeta were training in on beerus' planet weigh 40,000 tons and goku and vegeta did 50,000 finger pushups in them
@@True_Ultra_Gigachad ah i did not know that. very cool but @JUST_GAME says that it is not physically impressive.
I think that both of them would eventually be on the same level when it comes to raw strength, no matter who was stronger in the beginning. Then it is a matter of who is more commited to the fight, that is my opinion on this topic.
I'm just gonna say it saitama is only buu saga level
@@Ijustlovecum naw bruh saitama only making it to the cell saga
It would take saitama's entire lifespan if not multiple to even catch up to goku in strength unless he gets a magical emotion boost again
@@MonsterGrease Saitama is a LIGHT WORKOUT for cell saga Goku, he barely scales to Frieza saga at WORST and at BEST he's same level of Android 19
*I feel like ppl dont know what exponentially means* guko loses no argument
Even if u a human faces guko master ui guko and ur power level is 10 fighting for just 5hrs u would already be at ssj 1 next 5hr you would be at ssj 3 next 2hrs ssj blue
U only lose if guko decided to punch ur head of right away before you even blind
If guko even had a chance of beating u a human he would have to double...and mean Double Master Ui ever second to have a chance of survive
Exponential is really slow compared to many large numbers. Imagine if they grew as fast as the Rayo function or that Large Garden Number. If Saitama attacked an opponent, who has Rayo's Number durability, and Saitama's strength is finite, it would take pretty much forever for Saitama to finally kill the opponent.
I personally believe it would take SSJ3 Goku (Buu Saga) to beat saitama, considering Saitama's feats from his fight against Cosmic Garou in the manga.
nope kid buu was universal level , but saitama only galaxy level at max , so SSJ2 maybe?
@@nigge7132 ssj2 couldn't even clap fat buu
The fact that he broke his “limiter” is foreshadowing that he has infinite strength because he has no limits.
Infinite 3D strength would still mean nothing to Goku as he has surpassed that tier for a while now.
he s still a 3D character lol
@@shakaibanwer2174Goku is literally a 3D character.What do you mean?
@@shakaibanwer2174Unless a being can control time lik cronoa in SDBH,they can't be called 4D.And 4D characters are always immortal
AM pretty sure Goku is 5D “5D is the rule of time, which means that a 5D character transcends both space and time and thus can control both and isn't affected by them either as he transcends them. In simple: They're basically levels of omnipotence. Like a 5D is more omnipotent than a 4D.” which goku did that post top
W video, but this is gonna def start a war in the comments
For sure lol
The thing about Saitama is that he cannot lose. It's the premise his entire character is based on. He's the apex of every "______ vs ______" thought exercise. Omni-Man beats Homelander, Metro-Man beats Omni-Man; Godzilla beats King Kong, Mecha Godzilla beats Godzilla, etc...
But no one beats Saitama.
Goku may be one of the most ridiculously overpowered characters in all of fiction, but the fact of the matter is that Saitama losing a fistfight would violate a fundamental axiom of the universe.
goku is from another verse lil kid murata cant control him
That only applies to saitama in his verse. A crossover event would flip that entire notion on it's head.
@@lemuelsiervo6188murata doesnt make the storyline
@@Blackpill149 goku solis
@@Blackpill149 goku is from another verse
Finally, someone who actually watched one punch man and dragon ball to compare the two.
not really cause his channel is literally about dbz so he has a bias
@@tophaticExplain how Saitama wins then
Saitama wasn't even serious as stated when Boros guessed Saitama had not gone serious once, he just lied to make Boros feel better about himself which Boros found out
goku can 1 shot Saitama , saitama does needs time to get stronger, but if Goku goes full power and 1 shots Saitama, Saitama can\'t get close to Goku\'s power. Goku normally is a warm-up fighter so Saitama could catch up like with Broly but if Goku understands how much of a threat Saitama was he could beat saitama
@@focusflow3924 You said it yourself, Goku always starts off slow and build up from there. He only goes all out if the person is inherently bad, but Saitama's a hero so he'd never do that.
Also, Goku doesn't care if someone gets stronger than him cuz if they do that's more motivation for him to train and get even stronger. He'd probably be happy if Saitama surpassed him.
@@Sen-ki-This is a versus battle not a 'what if Goku met saitama's. You are talking of a casual meeting or a cross over
@@OyinkansolaAgboola The point about him starting off slow still stands.
@@Sen-ki-And going all out in his base form still stands not to mention Saitama just stands there and allows his opponents to punch him
As much as I love Saitama's characteristics. T.O.P Goku's base power kills Saitama with a single glare.
Let alone the manga versions of Dragon Ball.
CALLMEARJ's Ultra Vegito being the most broken manga character ever!
You can't tell how powerful CALLMEARJ's Grand Priest is compared to all The Grand Priests in the entire Dragon Ball channels.
And let's not forget about UnrealEntGaming's Merno Arc and his new arc of the 5 strongest warriors in the entire multiverse.
Bro OPM gets squashed so many times and it's not even close to the DB contents that we see today. 😂
End of discussion.
i dont think vision can kill person who is borderline invincible, sorry to ruin your world, bud.
@@Frego. not immortal just your fanfict you made up
@@Frego. when tf did Saitama became an immortal
@@syedfaheemshah9629 if you were paying attention as most of you gokutards never do, i said "borderline". you gokutards have watched goku so much that you think like him 🤡
@@Frego. im pretty sure no nigga wanna be goku unless your a 7 year old and that got shi to do with goku vs saitama dumbahh boa
This is for Saitama Fanboys
Low Multiverse level (As a Super Saiyan God, fought with a suppressed Beerus, and their clash both shook and was about to destroy the universe from its edge. Absorbed Super Saiyan God's power and became even stronger. Managed to overcome Beerus' energy nullification as a Super Saiyan, which easily nullified energy capable of destroying the universe. Destroyed a superior amount of energy that was going to destroy the universe with a single punch in his base form which consists of 3 space time continuums) | Low Multiverse level (Significantly grew in power during his training. Unlocked Super Saiyan Blue and was later capable of enhancing his strength even further by stacking Kaio-ken x10 on top of Super Saiyan Blue) | Low Multiverse level (Comparable to Vegeta who at this time managed to dominate Super Saiyan Rosé Goku Black and overpower Fusion Zamasu's Holy Wrath alongside Future Trunks after training extensively[22]. Upon going past his limits, he could replicate Vegeta and Trunks' feat by himself and knock down Fusion Zamasu with Kaioken[20]. Stalemated a stronger Hit with just Super Saiyan Blue, without using Kaio-ken, and even his weaker Super Saiyan forms can briefly fight opponents like Toppo, although he is inferior in these forms. Also capable of maintaining Super Saiyan Blue Kaio-ken x20) | Low Multiverse level (In Ultra Instinct Omen, he traded blows with a heavily suppressed Jiren, and his Ki alone was able to shake the whole World of Void[23], which was completely unaffected by the fight between three Gods of Destruction[24], with a fight between two Gods of Destruction being taboo[25] since it will result in the destruction of two universes[26]) | Low Multiverse level, far higher as a Super Saiyan Blue (After breaking his limits by achieving Ultra Instinct Omen a second time, and after defeating Anilaza, he managed to fight against Jiren, who was finally showing a hint of his full power) | Low Multiverse level (Fought on an equal footing with a fully-powered Jiren in Ultra Instinct Omen who was stated by Vegeta to “step over the state of the Gods”. After transforming into Perfected Ultra Instinct, he easily nullified a compressed ball of ki from Jiren. The force of this ki alone was going to crush all members of Universe 11 (including Belmod). Later dominated Jiren in this state, and still fought Jiren evenly after Jiren broke his limits, and managed to defeat him after becoming enraged) | Low Multiverse level (Stronger than before, as he has been training with Vegeta for a while, and most recently with Broly), far higher as a Super Saiyan Blue (By the time of Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero, Goku is touted as being on par with Orange Piccolo, who can fight against Cell Max)
Speed: Massively FTL+ (Comparable to the speed of the explosion from the ki sphere which SSG Goku and Beerus created in their final clash, which threatened to engulf the entire universe in mere moments) | Massively FTL+ (At least 196 quadrillion c, likely far higher) | Massively FTL+ | Massively FTL+ | Massively FTL+ (At least 196 quadrillion c, likely at least 39.2 sextillion c) | Massively FTL+ (Far faster than before, kept pace with full power Jiren, After achieving the true Ultra Instinct, he was shown to be able to blitz a full powered Jiren and kept up with his limit broken state) | Massively FTL+
Lifting Strength: At least Class M, likely far far higher (Lifted this much)
Striking Strength: Low Multiverse level | Low Multiverse level | Low Multiverse level | Low Multiverse level | Low Multiverse level, far higher as a Super Saiyan Blue | Low Multiverse level | Low Multiverse level, far higher as a Super Saiyan Blue
Durability: Low Multiverse level | Low Multiverse level | Low Multiverse level | Low Multiverse level | Low Multiverse level, far higher as a Super Saiyan Blue | Low Multiverse level | Low Multiverse level, far higher as a Super Saiyan Blue
Stamina: Superhuman (Goku can train for days with minimal rest and can fight through his long, arduous fights with the likes of Vegeta and Frieza, continuing to fight against Vegeta even after overexerting himself with Kaio-ken x4, and ultimately outlasting the latter even after being effortlessly beaten around, pushing himself to his limits with Kaio-ken, and exhausting himself with his Spirit Bomb. When he was younger, he managed to pull through and defeat Piccolo even after all of his limbs were broken and he was mortally injured. Additionally, as of Battle of Gods, he has finally gotten past Super Saiyan 3's energy problem, allowing him to use it much more easily and for longer periods. Later in Resurrection of F, he was able to endure having a hole in his chest after getting shot by Sorbet. In the Future Trunks arc, he was stabbed in his lung and had a huge hole in his chest by Black but completely ignored the pain and continued to fight both Black and Future Zamasu. In the Tournament of Power Goku was able to fight through nearly the entire duration of the tournament despite repeatedly breaking through his limits and nearly dying multiple times, ultimately pushing himself to fight and eliminate Jiren alongside Freeza even though he could barely move moments before. Can engage in combat in low oxygen environments)
Range: Standard Melee Range, Low Multiversal & Interdimensional with ki blasts (Affected Hit's pocket dimension, destroying it), shockwave attacks (The shockwaves generated by him and Beerus's punches traveled across the entire universe, even reaching other dimensions such as the Kaioshin Realm), teleportation (Can teleport across the universe, or to other dimension such as the Kai Realm, the Afterlife, etc...), and telepathy
Standard Equipment: None notable | The Zen'ō button
Intelligence: Average in general. Genius in combat (Although he lacks knowledge when it comes to things that aren't related to fighting, Goku is a master of prodigal skill when it comes to martial arts, with years of experience fighting against powerful opponents with a plethora of abilities. His skill when it comes to combat and the usage of ki allows him to replicate other ki-based techniques after seeing them once, and he was the first to realize how much energy the Super Saiyan transformations unnecessarily drained. Despite this drawback, he was the first to master the Super Saiyan state, making it highly efficient. He is a genius in combat and is capable of devising new applications of his techniques on the fly, such as using Kamehameha with his feet. Capable of analyzing and copying Beerus' fighting style, allowing him to match Beerus' attacks and cancel out the shockwaves that threatened the universe. Later in Super, before adapting to Hit's time stop, he was able to predict the movements he'd make in the 0.1 seconds of frozen time and react properly. Immediately figured out how to use a ki blast to restart his heart when it was "crushed" by Hit's ki blast. Additionally, Goku has become the first mortal to master Ultra Instinct, a technique that even the Gods find difficult to learn, relying purely on his muscle memory and something "beyond" instinct to fight, no longer needing to consciously think to do so while being more serious in this form)
Meanwhile saitama never used his full power
@@Ratedsuperstar4497 goku owns that star level wanna be krillin fodder
@@AokijiIceAge krillin can't even survive a normal punch 🤣🤣🤣
You have a lot of free time 😵
@@Ratedsuperstar4497 stop it police officer krillin solos
You say that Saitama does have a limit, but he doesn't. Garou tries to copy his strength, but even he cant copy infinity. Saitama is just too good. He also promised Tareo to not kill Garou, and was only using one arm. Also, he was even able to move the dimensional gateways Garou stole from Blast. He'd probably just bat away the Kamehameha (or however you spell it) and say "Huh? A beam of light?" and Goku would just gawk. Then Goku would go into MUI and Saitama would go "Wow. Your hair changed."
And Goku would then be not taken seriously, but after screaming about pride or justice or fun fights or whatever he preaches about, Saitama would use his Serious Punch on him. If he did that thing where he stops before hitting him, Goku would go to base state, fall to his knees, and beg to be Saitama's disciple. Saitama, being Saitama, would refuse. If he actually hit Goku, around a million real life people would sob at his death, and another million would say "See!? I told you so!" in sync.
So Saitama does have some form of "limit" but let's put it like this. It's more like, if his power was a number, you'd never get there. Imagine a number followed by literally hundreds to thousands or more 0's, even higher possibly. Saitama's limit in his universe would never even be approached by anyone. So let's say the max power of everyone in a universe (just to keep it simple) was like 10. Nobody in the entire universe and cosmos exceeded a power level of 10. Well, when you're an exception to the rule and you exceed that limit of 10, and let's say your power level is 1,000,000,000, in comparison to the rest of the universe who only has a 10 power level, you don't even have to try to beat them. You do have a maximum power, but it's so high up there that no living being even combined could beat your power.
I have no doubt though that Saitama is stronger than Goku. Even if Saitama somehow was on even ground or just below Goku's power level at the start of the fight, Saitama improves exponentially for various reasons, I would think the rate he improves would exceed Goku unless Goku can pull one final transformation, but otherwise he'd be toast if the fight dragged out especially.
@@WildWombats goku one shots saitama i can say why in one single sentence if you wanna know reply
I think if Goku does Goku things, like not using all strength, being in a base form just at beginning, Saitama would start growing and as Goku gets more and more seroious Saitama gets stronger and stronger until he will be able to surpass him.
Stop. Saitama would NEVER surpass Goku, and has NEVER demonstrated any feats near the DB Universal God-tier level. Just stop man, let it go, Saitama just simply cannot and never will be able to fuck with Goku or anyone close to his level.
@@mikewil7571with the way you write, i cannot understand if you are joking or not
Bro in chapter 165 Saitama VS cosmic garou SAITAMA BROKE HIS FRIGGIN LIMITER AND SAID HE GROWED EXPONENTIALLY AND CAN EVEN GROW FASTER THAN GOKU UNTIL GOKU REACHED HIS LIMIT BECAUSE SAITAMA IS LIMITLESS PLUS SAITAMA IS A HUMAN AND GOKU IS A ALIEN
@@United_States5 Saitama broke his limiter while training...
@@United_States5 ruclips.net/video/bZv6Yp-lWAI/видео.html
I am so glad seph put this discussion to an end. Saitama has NEVER... displayed any feats on the level of these God-tier DB characters, bottom line. His little limit breaking shit isn't going to give him near the significant jump required to match these universe busters.
Plus, DB characters like Goku, Gohan and Vegeta always breaks their limit - they've done it throughout the DBZ, and DB Super series.
What could we expect from a guy with a pfp of a saiyan and with the name of "saiyan motion" 💀
LOL
List feats that bring Saitama to universal.
@@hundredpercentfaxspitting Kicking a black hole, climbing through a black hole, and destroying Jupiter with a sneeze.
@@ikenga02 You sound so confident for a person who just listed a bunch of fodder or unquantifiable feats. Destroying Jupiter with a sneeze isn't as impressive as you would think either, he just blew away the gas with the core being in tact. The "black holes" you are a mentioning are just hyper space portals and do not grant him any superior A.P or durability. You got anything else????
@@hundredpercentfaxspitting I can list feats that makes him high outerversal
Saitama's exponential growth was due to a surge of emotions which only happened after garou killed genos. And his strenght isn't infinite the graph didn't show that. It showed that he can keep growing in battle. Saitama lost his memories after merging with himself. Which means he wouldn't know how to do the time travel technique and even if he could get it off it wouldn't effect goku. Garou had to teach saitama the time travel thing and explain it to him.
Goku as a kid with no understanding of ki was able to copy the kamehameha after seeing it once and it took roshi 50 years to learn that attack. Goku also copied hakai at a glance, copied the afterimage technique, and the 8 arm technique and was able to tap into ui multiple times and had a better mastery over it than beerus and the other gods. He was also able to learn the mafuba in a short amount of time. He's capable of creating his own techniques and improving on the ones he already knows too.
Goku in his base form is leaps above saitama and goku can amp his base form with kaioken and ui. Goku can also adapt, break his limits over and over, gets stronger as he fights, gets stronger if he's pushed into a corner, can get rage boosts and ui evolves as he fights in stats and his moves get more fine tuned. Goku's also way more skilled and is a way smarter fighter.
the thing is if we put goku on OPM he will be blast LVL, however if we put saitama in dbz he will be klirin LVL coz no amount of body work will place you near picolo lvl while in OPM iti is known that there are naturally powerful humans and races.
Saitama shattered his limiter that god put on every single person in the opm verse
It’s literally the most one sided fight ever, in opm favor, because he is comparing gods of destruction and stuff to actual god like the guy who made the universe
Personally I think the person who made the video is incredibly biased
Because he is comparing someone who stands a chance against god, not a god of destruction, ACTUAL god like the guy who made the universe
Think Zen from dbz, now notice how can is infinitely stronger than goku
That’s how one punch man is
Because he is a parody character, he quite literally cannot lose, because his strength,speed, and durability is infinite, because he already shattered his limiter which goku has done, but not to saitama’s extent
@@saucecollectorThe god in OPM is not an actual god and he is still featless.
@@OyinkansolaAgboola he created the universe of opm and set limits on everything’s strength
Seems pretty godly to me
bro saitama winning that
Bro you stupid
So for all of those still thinking Saitama wins here's a few things you should know about Goku
Goku in base at the end of the fight with Beerus is able to destory the universe and the after life in an instant. The after life is so massive that if you place an infinite object between heaven and hell, you would not be able to see it
Goku then has true ultra instinct which is a multiplier that puts him at billions of times stronger which is a heavy downplay
Goku is so fast that he is able to outspeed a person that is able to freeze time
Saitama's best feat is punching and destroying multiple stars. Goku's casual feat is punching and being able to destroy a universe that is infinitely bigger than Saitama's universe
People will say "Saitama has time travel". First of all time traveling in dragon ball is different. It branches a new time line and Saitama never learned to time travel. It was an amp from Garuo
Next is the "infinite strength" argument. He is stated to have infinite potential not infinite strength. He only grew the amount he did by watching Genos die. Goku surpassed Saitama's growth in just an hour by thousands of times in the tournament of power
Just base Goku alone after the fight with Beerus scales higher and if you have anything that says otherwise to disprove anything leave a reply
Let me explain why Saitama beats Goku. Goku can't beat someone with infinite levels of strength, Saitama also has an insane level of endurance. During the battle of Lord Boros, Saitama was still holding back, and only then he got "Serious" but that was just because Boros brought out his strongest attack. Do not even mention the battle between Cosmic Fear Garou and Saitama, Saitama soared exponentially during that fight. Garou was literally given power by God. Even then Garou knew that he was no match for him. Saitama is limitless when it comes to strength, let's not forget that his speed outmatches anyone in his entire universe, Saitama went light speed during the fight with Lord Boros.
Why does everyone hype up Goku. I get we love Goku and he has a lot of power and potential but Saitama is WRITTEN to be INVINCIBLE. No matter how strong the enemy is SAITAMA wins because that's his only job. Goku and beerus shake the universe, and when Saitama punch destroyed countless stars, that means bro vaporized entire galaxies in one punch. Goku has died before, Saitama CANNOT die.
MAN I HATE THIS ARGUMENT! It’s like the Batman vs anyone when people say “how much time does he have before the fight” goku stomps Saitama right now because Saitama just doesn’t have the feats to back it up.
I read one punch man in the original raw japanese he does not have infinite power nor strength and it does not equate to limitless potential Garou says he has overwhelming strength and that he’ll copy him constantly not infinitely in the original Japanese. If he did truly have infinite power he’d be one shotting everything which he didn’t against opponents that actually have the strength to contend with him this is proven ON PANEL, you opm fans actually struggle to grasp this concept. Murata literally drew a graph with his power rising exponentially.
He holds back
The like to dislike ratios 💀
Why does it matter which one is stronger? It's not like someday Goku will appear in Saitama's world.
this guy ended this debate and saitama fans are still arguing 💀
goku claps , i don't care about what you all are saying
Bro Saitama slams I am about to humble your mouth
Saitama is limitless and goku's stupidity makes him lose because he wouldn't push himself to his limit right away you dummy even Google says Saitama would win
Saitama is literally the embodiment of unfairness, even in the manga, it literally says that any fights saitama is in has a 100% chance that saitama wins, he is stronger and will always be because his potential power is limitless, also hes never been hurt while goku has been several times
(Im a dbz fan and i preffer dbz over opm just so you know im not glazzing)
Saitama fans usually say he wins for one of three reasons:
1. He's supposedly a gag character. (He isn't, ONE nor Murata never said this, he starts as a parody then becomes a serious character)
2. He is named One Punch Man, so he can punch anything and has never been defeated. (Names don't indicate strength. Buu is called omnipotent, but he isn't. Kami is called God but he isn't omnipotent. Also the fact that he hasn't been defeated shows how weak his verse is, put Goku in OPM and he does the same.)
3. Saitama can't lose because it's not in his character (That would only apply in verse and not in cross-verse debates. If you want to use that logic, we can also assume that Goku cannot lose because his character is to always become stronger than opponents.)
Boros confermed he is limitless dr genos confermed he broked his limiter my man was playing with garou grabbing genos core in one hand keeping the promise of that kid not to kill garou hia growth is much faster than goku before s3 came he was shown as a galaxy level character (galaxy leve feats) but after cosmic garou arc started he was shown omniversal character my man created void (complete hole in space) and survived concentrated gama ray burst which is trillion times stronger than gokus kmeha MAMA!
(Kamehameha)the time difference between s2 and cosmic garou arc
Is just 2-3 month so its true saitama grow fast and he is limitless in every thing now saitama normal punch is equal to his serious punch which was firstly shown is series and garou proves that the same punch is always stronger than before so more you beat him the more durable and powerful he becomes (jojo refrence)
Where goku need to have near death experience so if you compare them without actual fight by some feats and some information that no one know but they knows smh just by comparing them without any growth goku is clearly winning but if they actually fight saitama will beat tha shit out of goku cause more harder golu hits more stronger and durable saitma become thr more he hit goku the stronger he gets and the a fist is always powerful than before one the match wipl be about of 2-3 minutes where saitama humbles goku without any problem
@@Worthy_Af Wall of text. Type this concisely and I'll consider replying.
BTW, limitless =/= omnipotent.