I’m an OR RN. The latest news is that FL DoH published the license suspension. There was a time out. This wasn’t wrong site, in the way we think left/right. The surgeon palpated the pulsing IVC, said to the scrub “that’s scary” and fired a stapler. He had cut the vena cava. The patient begins to exsanguinate instantly. They start MTP and cpr but surgeon keeps cutting without knowing what tissue he’s dissecting, suctioning, or trying to clamp. The OR team knew it was a liver as soon as he handed the specimen.
Hi Mark Thank you so much for taking the time to update us. I'm curious what your thoughts are on a couple of things...What do you make of the surgeon making that comment about the IVC & then stapling?! His comment of, "That's scary" is something maybe only he knows what he was thinking at that time. Also, if the OR knew it was a liver, why continue with labeling it as a spleen & stating "spleenectomy" in the paperwork going to pathology. Thanks again Mark!
@@Lisa_RNHealthHubthe or staff responded that they labeled it as such because the surgeon kept insisting it was spleen. Pathology was going to say it was the liver. They aren’t a part of the surgeon’s delusion. He could’ve called the specimen “one eyed one horned flying purple people eater”. Apparently a distended colon (the cause of the symptoms) obscured the view and why they switched to open. The only thing most surgical staff can think is drugs or a brain tumor. His decisions make zero logic.
Normally they do this presurgical meeting with the patient and mark on their body with a sharpie which side they are working on or even an X on the opposite side. This is tragic because it is so preventable. This Doctor should not be operating and in my opinion is criminally negligent and should be behind bars with his license revoked.
It's not prison but, they sure do make you feel like you aren't allowed to leave. I was in the ICU after an ACDF and the nursing staff were so horrible to me. They gaslit me and talked about me horribly right outside my room. They called me crazy. I was in tears. I called my husband and told him to come and pick me up. They would NOT let me leave.
Hi Amanda, that is horrible! I'm truly so sorry this happened to you. It should never be that way and nobody should ever speak that way about a patient, or gaslight them. It's wrong and unethical. Were you too unstable to be transferred? Maybe you were fresh from surgery? Whatever the reasons they were thinking, they should have kindly explained them to you and transferred you when safe to do so as soon as you wanted. Thank you for your comment and for watching. Lisa
@@Lisa_RNHealthHub my doctor came in the next morning and I was crying so hard and I requested that he transfer me to the med/surg floor but not before I requested to see administration and the Director of Nursing. I'm a nurse and I've never felt so unsafe and uncomfortable and horrified in my life. I thought it was a bad dream but, it wasn't. It's those night travel nurses. They don't give a crap about anyone or anything it seems from my experiences in the hospital as of late.
Is it not routine to do a huddle with all members of the operation before; so that everyone is on the same page? Or was this an egregious situation of hierarchy where everyone else was afraid to overstep to let the surgeon know that something is wrong?
I'm hearing from nurses that there was the huddle and the Time-Out. The surgical plan was a spleenectomy. But...obviously for some unknown reason at this point, he cut out the liver. Yes, the staff saw this, why they didn't speak up, I don't have that info., but wish I did. It continued to get labled as "Spleen" and sent to pathology where the pathologist revealed it was in fact the liver. He died during surgery as once cut, we can't live w/o a liver & massive bleeding occured.
This doctor should go to prison for his negligence that resulted in the death of this man. Also the OR staff should be reprimanded for not speaking up and for not helping to ensure that the doctor was in the correct part of the body!!
If you read the DoH license suspension hearing, the OR staff (didn’t have a PA/SA, just a scrub which is crazy for a splenectomy) was busy running an MTP and cpr while the surgeon kept cutting. Only after the patient had died, was the organ handed to the scrub where they discovered it was the liver. They knew it was the liver but the MD repeatedly explained that it was the spleen. MD tried to convince the rest of the staff but they knew
I got home from Sacred Heart Hospital, after my own disappointing experience, I found out this happened 😮. This is not this doctors first mistake. Attorney ZARZAUR put out a warning to the public, it is this serious. Medical care in Florida is POOR, do not move here. Our hospital actually closed a few years ago. A decent doctor might be found 2 + hours away. I live here, listen to me, do not visit or move here. You never know when you might need medical care. I’m trying to escape this hellhole.
This is the thing … we don’t know how to advocate for ourselves and the hospital is not going to disclose what your rights are. If you are not in the industry … game’s over. There is always the comment “if you leave, your insurance won’t pay for stay” …
The hospital and clinic always have a patient's rights either posted, or you can definately ask for them. I totally understand your feelings on this though & agree it's difficult and feels like your're at the mercy of the hospital & their rules. About advocating...in each of my videos about health topics or health stories, I always put information in about how to and what to say to advocate for yourself, even in my Palliative Care vs Hospice video, but I will actually try to do more of that in each video. Thank you for watching, I appreciate it & I understand your concern VERY much.
When I have had surgeries there have always been at least two, sometimes up to five people checking in with me and initialling me with sharpie. On a knee surgery I think it may have been only two but for the shoulder surgery I even got the anesthesiologist and they came in as a group. Other times not at the same time. We've had a few "mistakes" in local hospitals over the last decades and they resulted in overhauls of those hospitals. One surgeon, a lovely human, was corrected before he made a mistake and he retired within the year.
Oh wow, that unfortunate situation for that surgeon to be corrected, but he that's how it should be. If we see a problem, we all need to speak up. We're all human and errors can occur, that's why many safe guards are in place. This surgeon in FL though! Wow, so inexcusable. Thank you for watching and commenting. Lisa
musta been a gas leak in the OR. By the way, speaking of gas, there were a total of 2 or 3 doctors in there who let this happen, Surgeon, Anesthesiologist (2 maybe) or Anesthetist. Also a couple of RN's. Why didn't they stop him......... like hey doc, you do know that the patient has a B/P of 30/10 and his heart rate is 300...
@@mhenderson9311 I explained twice that viewing videos is flipped. Agree, confusing. But, keep watching because it's about the tragic error made by this surgeon.
@@Lisa_RNHealthHub Yes I agree it's a tragic mistake by the surgeon. I keep watching new videos to see if any medical expert has mentioned the condition "situs inversus." Only in one video did I see this mentioned as leading to a potential cause of the initial error . In any case this does not excuse the mistakes made during this surgery.
I’m an OR RN. The latest news is that FL DoH published the license suspension. There was a time out. This wasn’t wrong site, in the way we think left/right. The surgeon palpated the pulsing IVC, said to the scrub “that’s scary” and fired a stapler. He had cut the vena cava. The patient begins to exsanguinate instantly. They start MTP and cpr but surgeon keeps cutting without knowing what tissue he’s dissecting, suctioning, or trying to clamp. The OR team knew it was a liver as soon as he handed the specimen.
Hi Mark Thank you so much for taking the time to update us. I'm curious what your thoughts are on a couple of things...What do you make of the surgeon making that comment about the IVC & then stapling?! His comment of, "That's scary" is something maybe only he knows what he was thinking at that time. Also, if the OR knew it was a liver, why continue with labeling it as a spleen & stating "spleenectomy" in the paperwork going to pathology. Thanks again Mark!
@@Lisa_RNHealthHubthe or staff responded that they labeled it as such because the surgeon kept insisting it was spleen. Pathology was going to say it was the liver. They aren’t a part of the surgeon’s delusion. He could’ve called the specimen “one eyed one horned flying purple people eater”. Apparently a distended colon (the cause of the symptoms) obscured the view and why they switched to open. The only thing most surgical staff can think is drugs or a brain tumor. His decisions make zero logic.
Normally they do this presurgical meeting with the patient and mark on their body with a sharpie which side they are working on or even an X on the opposite side. This is tragic because it is so preventable. This Doctor should not be operating and in my opinion is criminally negligent and should be behind bars with his license revoked.
@@rebeccawolf3196 I agree!
Agreed 💯
It's not prison but, they sure do make you feel like you aren't allowed to leave. I was in the ICU after an ACDF and the nursing staff were so horrible to me. They gaslit me and talked about me horribly right outside my room. They called me crazy. I was in tears. I called my husband and told him to come and pick me up. They would NOT let me leave.
Hi Amanda, that is horrible! I'm truly so sorry this happened to you. It should never be that way and nobody should ever speak that way about a patient, or gaslight them. It's wrong and unethical. Were you too unstable to be transferred? Maybe you were fresh from surgery? Whatever the reasons they were thinking, they should have kindly explained them to you and transferred you when safe to do so as soon as you wanted. Thank you for your comment and for watching. Lisa
@@Lisa_RNHealthHub my doctor came in the next morning and I was crying so hard and I requested that he transfer me to the med/surg floor but not before I requested to see administration and the Director of Nursing. I'm a nurse and I've never felt so unsafe and uncomfortable and horrified in my life. I thought it was a bad dream but, it wasn't. It's those night travel nurses. They don't give a crap about anyone or anything it seems from my experiences in the hospital as of late.
@AmandaCadorna so sorry this happened to you. My thoughts and prayers are with you. God bless. 🙏🏻🩷
Is it not routine to do a huddle with all members of the operation before; so that everyone is on the same page? Or was this an egregious situation of hierarchy where everyone else was afraid to overstep to let the surgeon know that something is wrong?
I'm hearing from nurses that there was the huddle and the Time-Out. The surgical plan was a spleenectomy. But...obviously for some unknown reason at this point, he cut out the liver. Yes, the staff saw this, why they didn't speak up, I don't have that info., but wish I did. It continued to get labled as "Spleen" and sent to pathology where the pathologist revealed it was in fact the liver. He died during surgery as once cut, we can't live w/o a liver & massive bleeding occured.
This doctor should go to prison for his negligence that resulted in the death of this man. Also the OR staff should be reprimanded for not speaking up and for not helping to ensure that the doctor was in the correct part of the body!!
Was this surgeon using drugs/alcohol ?????????????????
And what about the Nurses in the OR. WHY DID NONE OF THEM SPEAK UP????????????
Hospice is the only benefit we get that is 100% paid. It’s not a cost to patients. ❤️❤️
@@ShannonStaley Yes that's right about Hospice & a beautiful service. Thank you for your comment ❤️ Lisa
Well we KNOW he wasn't in the OR alone, so this was everyone's failure.
@@lisampb8178 completely!
Others in the room might not have been in a position to know or understand what the surgeon was doing.
If you read the DoH license suspension hearing, the OR staff (didn’t have a PA/SA, just a scrub which is crazy for a splenectomy) was busy running an MTP and cpr while the surgeon kept cutting. Only after the patient had died, was the organ handed to the scrub where they discovered it was the liver. They knew it was the liver but the MD repeatedly explained that it was the spleen. MD tried to convince the rest of the staff but they knew
@@markgleason2078 OH wow, this is tragic for this pt. Thank you for the update.
I got home from Sacred Heart Hospital, after my own disappointing experience, I found out this happened 😮. This is not this doctors first mistake. Attorney ZARZAUR put out a warning to the public, it is this serious. Medical care in Florida is POOR, do not move here. Our hospital actually closed a few years ago. A decent doctor might be found 2 + hours away. I live here, listen to me, do not visit or move here. You never know when you might need medical care. I’m trying to escape this hellhole.
Take good care of yourself. And thank you for the warning.
Medical murder.
This is the thing … we don’t know how to advocate for ourselves and the hospital is not going to disclose what your rights are. If you are not in the industry … game’s over. There is always the comment “if you leave, your insurance won’t pay for stay” …
The hospital and clinic always have a patient's rights either posted, or you can definately ask for them. I totally understand your feelings on this though & agree it's difficult and feels like your're at the mercy of the hospital & their rules. About advocating...in each of my videos about health topics or health stories, I always put information in about how to and what to say to advocate for yourself, even in my Palliative Care vs Hospice video, but I will actually try to do more of that in each video. Thank you for watching, I appreciate it & I understand your concern VERY much.
When I have had surgeries there have always been at least two, sometimes up to five people checking in with me and initialling me with sharpie. On a knee surgery I think it may have been only two but for the shoulder surgery I even got the anesthesiologist and they came in as a group. Other times not at the same time.
We've had a few "mistakes" in local hospitals over the last decades and they resulted in overhauls of those hospitals. One surgeon, a lovely human, was corrected before he made a mistake and he retired within the year.
Oh wow, that unfortunate situation for that surgeon to be corrected, but he that's how it should be. If we see a problem, we all need to speak up. We're all human and errors can occur, that's why many safe guards are in place. This surgeon in FL though! Wow, so inexcusable. Thank you for watching and commenting. Lisa
musta been a gas leak in the OR. By the way, speaking of gas, there were a total of 2 or 3 doctors in there who let this happen, Surgeon, Anesthesiologist (2 maybe) or Anesthetist. Also a couple of RN's. Why didn't they stop him......... like hey doc, you do know that the patient has a B/P of 30/10 and his heart rate is 300...
Interesting points & I agree with your thoughts on what the others were thinking & doing as they continued with his delusion.
You lost me at "this is my left", 0.55 minutes into the video. You point to your right! Lol.
@@mhenderson9311 I explained twice that viewing videos is flipped. Agree, confusing. But, keep watching because it's about the tragic error made by this surgeon.
@@Lisa_RNHealthHub Yes I agree it's a tragic mistake by the surgeon. I keep watching new videos to see if any medical expert has mentioned the condition "situs inversus." Only in one video did I see this mentioned as leading to a potential cause of the initial error . In any case this does not excuse the mistakes made during this surgery.
@@mhenderson9311 ohhh wow, great topic!
Too rambly, maybe take some notes to be clearer.
@@mowog59 Thanks for watching!