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The knife your holding at 20:00 and you didn’t know what the model is looks like a “Microtech LUDT Gen 3 1135-10 Stonewash Blade, Black Handle Grip Inlay”
Clone= counterfeit , branded
Copy= unbranded
Sister= same factory and machines unbranded
Thank you for making this video. It was much appreciated!
@@ksowderful you are welcome.
Interesting video! You explained a lot of the cosmetic differences but you didn't talk about the main and most important difference. It's the quality of the steel. Most of those knives are 8cr or most likely below that. I think it's important to mention it mainly for non knife people who are watching your video. They may think they can save a lot of money just by getting a knock off and it'll be close to the same thing. However the performance will be lacking.
That being said, most non-knife people won't care about the quality of the steel. Lol... but I think it should be mentioned anyway.
I've also bought a lot of clones to try out, to see if I want the real thing. The bench made full immunity is a nice clone - I ended up giving it to my sister. I'd love to have the real thing but I can't bring myself to spending that much money on a tiny knife.
Yep... Mystery steel with questionable heat treatment
@@heavyweightsound I didn't really get into blade steel because I have no idea what they are really made of. 🤣
@@appalachianknifereviews yea I get it!
Ya I wish there was a way to easily test what kind of steal it is. Cuz anybody can print m390 on some 8cr,
Good stuff, man; sub-button clicked. Been into knives & clones for a good while now, enjoyed seein' the honest reviews & the compare/contrast vs OG stuff.
I wish I had more of the real stuff to compare but had to use what I have on hand.
Demko Shark Cub in Titanium and 20CV for $200 is amazing. Perfect little EDC I carry everywhere. The lock is one of the best Ive ever used. On par with the compression lock and fidget friendly. For $350 you could get the Demko 20.5 in titanium as well. I love the Shark Foot blade the best due to the thumbhole deployment and sheepfoot blade.
I’m not really into knives anymore. I’d rather spend my money on car parts. However, sometimes I still find myself wanting another knife. Clones are a good way to get the knives I wanted back when I was a collector, without spending a lot of money.
Almost every OTF wiggles like that bro. I am kinda like you..... I prefer side opening autos
The orange russian liner lock is a hokc mongoose. They are designed by Aleksander Biryukov in russia then made in china and shipped back to russia.
Are they worth a damn?
@@appalachianknifereviews Some of their other knives like the avatar, cougar and finnish-s are very nice i dont know very much about the mongoose.
I have a handful of high quality knives that I actually use but I love to collect clones. It's a great way to get a feel for a knife that you may not otherwise purchase. Some of these clones are pretty decent too. Hifinder or Vespa if you're looking for good microtech clones.
My thoughts were trying out a clone before I dropped the cash to get the real deal to see if its something I even wanted to carry. I am glad there are others like myself.
I got one of the microtech otf clones to see if I liked it and the thing is an absolute beast. No hiccups in about 2 years
I got the same crooked river clone from temu. The scales did not sit flush on the liner. Took it apart to fix it, the scales were perfectly flat, but the liner was very soft steel and very easy to bend with fingers. It also has a decent amount of blade play unless I tighten it enough to remove the action completely. Would love to find out what the blade steel really is, as it is definitely better than any of my old 420hc stuff, but nowhere near as good as any modern premiums.
I haven't taken mine apart but every looks like it lines up. I will take a better look at it.
Love this video I’ve been checking out these fake knives on team move for the last few weeks and I’ve been waiting for a video like this
Very few OTF have zero blade play. Clone or not. The only true zero blade play OTF is the Hawk Deadlock and the new MicroTech Gen 3 models. Other than those, they all will have some blade play.
The Gen 3’s still have a tiny bit of play, at least the ones we got in the shop. We got the Hera 2’s small
Thank you for telling me that. I have yet to buy my first real one and wasn't aware.
@@chrisjosekuehl I realize I didn't specify well enough in my comment. You are correct. The MT Gen 3s have very slight blade play. It's the MT Atreus that they are releasing that claims to have zero blade play. But it's yet to be released as of yet.
The Hawk Deadlock is zero blade play and is already released.
I own a few Benchmade OTFs and they all have blade play. Especially the shootout.
Yeah it’s not all the gen 3 Microtechs, it’s supposed to be on the new ultra tech gen 3s that come out this month sometime.
I have well over 100 knives. Some cheap some over 1k. I have a few clones also. Most of the clones I have are pretty damn good. If the blade steel was legit most would be better than the original
New sub.
I picked up a Benchmade Bugout knock off and eyeballing a BK19, ZT and a couple others on aliexpress for the same reasons you tried them. The Bugout had a few obvious tells including every box stating the same color when there were a few different ones, another was it couldn't cut hair and barely made it through paper so they'll get some diamond stone time.
I wish there was an easy/cheap way to test and see what steel knives sold on these sites are actually made of since there's no way they're actually some of the more premium ones claimed/marked as.
And if you havent figured out the Tek Lok yet, theres a "L" bracket arm in between the two sides you push to release it that creates a jam rod effect and has to be rotated out of the way before the sides can be pressed inwards.
Ironically, the wood on the Crooked River looks smoother than the actual Benchmade; some of the Benchmades with the resin reinforced wood have an issue with "grooves" on the scales. Minor defect, and still great knives.
And their already overpriced so it makes the whole thing even worse
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I did the same 😂😂just so i will know if i like it and spend the money for a real one. I pretty much bought almost all of what you bought. My favorite fake one i got is the full immunity 😂😊
@@Johnny9ers it's an awesome little knife. I wish it was just a tiny bit bigger.
Really informative video--thanks!
Worst part of clones or copies is you don’t know what steel they are using. It can say s30v or magnacut but in reality it is 440 or aus-8.
This is a really cool idea for a video. I, too, like to test out the less-expensive variants of a particular design before I decide if the "real deal" is right for me. It's saved me a fair bit of money to boot.
(And sometimes you find some real diamonds for cheap!)
It's gonna cost me a lot more. I'm for sure buying some Microtech OTF and Benchmade Crooked River.
just subscribed brotha i also test temu knives lmao
Subbed and you ain't gotta explain to anybody why you bought these brother none of their damn business👊
ha ha, thanks so much.
Great video. The Microtech OTS clone is of the Microtech LUDT Gen III. I've accidentally purchased clones when I first got into collecting knives and didn't know anything about the hobby. Since then, approaching 400 knives in my collection, I've only purchased one knowing it was a clone, the Eafengrow Strider clone. I also have the Crooked River clone, first knife I bought off of Wish years ago, and probably the only Benchmade I'd ever consider buying.
thanks for that info. It's a great looking knife but I don't know that I would buy the real one. Mictrotech that is.
The Automatic Benchmade clone is the Infidel clone.I bought the ad 20.5 tanto in Cpm 3v and i love it. I would check the Flytanium Arcade if you like the shark lock.
Hey if this is up your alley, Demko is releasing a budget shark cub sometime in August at the 75 bucks range for Aus10a
@@jarofaar8618 ill have to check it out. Thanks for the suggestion.
It's nice to have the choice with some budget knifes !! ^^ They are not perfect, but they are so cheaper !! ^^
On the fake bugouts, the metal grip bumps by the pivot stick out noticeably more than a real one
Sorry for all the comments. That launch linerlock is hilarious!! I'd like to trade you something for it
You want that goofy Kershaw? 🤣
I do... total clown knife haha. Fake button on a launch with liner lock... hahaha
Good video, ya got my subscribe dude 😎
thank you
I think the real benchmade claymore has aluminum scales, not plastic. I have a fake one n it worked really well, for a while... Then fell apart
ha ha. We buy once, cry once. Except with real benchmade we cry every time we think about what we paid for them.
The legit Carbon Bugout has a slightly darker blue paint thats ever so slightly mettalic looking other than that i cannot tell the dofference AT ALL
I bought a fake bugout with an orange blade from Huaao, i wanted to put a thumb stud on it for some reason n thought i could drill right thru it, but i melted 4 drill bits n some dremel bits. Then i used it to scrape gorilla glue off taracotta pots i glued back together, the edges didnt line up n the blade was scraping on the taracotta n if figured it was finished. To my surprise the blade didnt have a knick in it, it felt the same as new. It says D2 on the blade, n the blade is really thin, but it must have been heat treated really well or something cuz it out performs a lot of my real knives
Use drill bit for ceramic. And water
The little otf is a microtech utx 85, n the donut n sprinkles is a ultratech
Thank you.
Good video! Where did you get that mat with different blade shapes on it?? 👍🏽😃🤔
It's a Mouse pad by Knafs. I bought it on Amazon. amzn.to/3Ll1dPx
That first otf doesn’t even look like any benchmade I’ve ever seen.
I thought the same thing when I bought it.
Hilarious you have to pull open the latch from the inside to get that sheath to open
Ive noticed Benchmade clones are almost just as good as the real thing specifically Bugouts. 😂. Especially when you consider how cheap the clones are.
Edit: Get the blade hq exclusive. Grey textured g10 and 20cv for $119. Absolute best Demko deal.
Definitely agree the BHQ 20cv exclusive Demko is your best option. I got one in Ultem and other than it being ground off center, which was admittedly disappointing, it's still rock solid in every other way. The one auto was a fake Microtech LUDT.
I will look into that one. Thank you.
Everytime I see a dessert warrior knife crocodile Dundee comes to mind…. It’s a clown knife
I think that is kind of the appeal for me. People think they are goofy and to me they are just a knife and if it ruffles someone else's feathers watching my field dress a deer or a bear with a pink knife it makes me laugh.
SMKW Kabar exclusive was all black. with no extra markings ..... the knock off is D2 , the 1095 Kabar uses is soft at 58hrc ... your going to like the knock off better than the original.
Pick up the Miller Brothers knives they’re like $900 and they got the fake ones for like 60 to 80 and those things look cool as shit
The real AD15 is actually a really nice knife. Not as hard to open or use as that clone. AD10 is another great knife and the lock is alot easier than the AD15. I have the AD20 milled Titanium with the full flat grind and clip point. The AD20 Ti is my favorite knife in my collection. I could sell every other knife and be happy with just the AD20. I also have the 4max and it's a beast but is a large knife and almost to big to carry.
On the Claymore, look at the blade stop pin. The real one has flat sides, where as on the knockckoff, it's smooth. I have both, that's the quickest way for me to tell them apart.
Thank you. Only thing I had noticed was the missing red button for "fire" or rather off safe.
That orange and black bench made looks just like the bk esee kA bar super nice. I think they’re only like 50 bucks. It might be called the Escobar?
That 1st OTF is not a Benchmade. It is a gas station knife with benchmade name put on it . Benchmade hasn’t made any knife looking like it.
I have many clone knifes and most of them are almost indistinguishable from the real thing. Having a real thing to compare it is the way I came to this conclusion. Except the blade steel some of my best knifes are clones like Spyderco Kapara, PM 3 in titanium and a wicked Benchmade Bugout. And last but not the least I have the clone Chris Reeve Umnumzan which is exactly the same knife as an original. It's incredible to me that the knife costing 70$ is practically (lower grade D2 steel vs S90V on the original) the same as the 500$ real thing....
I have some of these knives. I even made a few videos of them
I bought a real Benchmade Infidel for almost $500 from Blade HQ a few years ago.
Junk.
Never ever buy another Benchmade.
Plus they have lost their minds on pricing.
I wouldn't buy Narrows if it was $99😐
Can't find any on Temu. How about some links.
Same
A lot of knife companies got what they deserve.
Many companies outsource to China, and quite a few companies outsource to China covertly and still claim its "made in America".
Well before those Chinese factories retool they pump out thousands of extra blades at the same or lower quality, and throw them on to third party vendor sites.
I got an absolutely mint quality Becker BK2 which I have beaten to hell.
It is as good as an original and cost thirty bucks.
I also got a pristine Gerber Strongarm for eleven bucks.
I guess its a case of "sow the wind, reap the whirlwind"
Well, you might be disappointed with otf’s in general then because they all have a little bit of blade play, even the legit Microtec’s. It’s just a consequence of the design. The only one I’m aware of with absolutely no blade play is the Deadlock, and it’s called that because it was specifically designed to not have any blade play, but it’s also quite pricey.
Understood. I can see how the design has some blade play. That one "Benchmade" is a bit ridiculous though. The Microtechs are much better.
with the right technique you can 1 hand an AD15 and your hand is not even close to the path of the blade
Demko clones seem to be very good
If you want a great value for an OTF with very minimal play, get the Maxace Neptune for $108
The smaller "Microtech" is probably trying to be the UTX85. And the larger sprinkle one is the Ultratech.
Thank you.
My guy- the MT has the model listed ON THE BLADE. The LUDT- Underwater Demolition Team. This and the HALO were the first two models released by MT in 1994/95, and started the brand. Also it cones in two veriations, the Large and the Mini, although the mini has not been made in many years.
Also- just say no to clones guy. You arent endearing yourself to knife collectors and the EDC community by giving these thieves free press.
The carbon fiber bugout has a few tells. The butterfly is way too dark, the trademark symbol is too big and the alignment is incorrect. The grind is also off slightly but that’s harder to spot. Other major tell is the blue on the thumb studs and back spacer is much lighter than the genuine bug. The real one has a darker almost cobalt blue shade.
I have noticed colors tend to give them away.
Hungfu is it own brand and they’re pretty good they don’t tell you the steals M390 but really it’s some stainless steel D2 or something. But they make BK 19 also that our copies but have their brand on it.
Gotta love Ali express clones 😂❤ I've got tons of fixed blades from Ali most are quite good for what they are. Definitely worth 10th of the original price 😊 good contant 🎉
@8:55 "Ok pal" 😂
Not one of these knives is available on Temu in the UK.
I have a couple of clones like the victorinox classic SD, Super Tinker, Buck 110, and the microtech combat troodon before I get the real ones
The little otf is a Utx 70 clone.
I look at these all the time lol
I wish I could start just looking and quit buying. lol
Ka-Bar may be the real deal. They are making some knives in China, and they do offer it in black. I got a becker harpoon from temu and it is absolutely the real deal. Its rare but some of the name brand knives that are made in Taiwan/china do show up on temu cheap.
I looked and looked and could not find the Bk19 in black. Well, not that I think of it I was only searching Amazon.
The orange one @ 21:24 is a reverse Benchmade Triage.
Nope. It's an actual Russian brand.
Clones are a zesty subject 100%! On the one hand I feel that under no circumstances should someone purchase a cloned knife, it's stealing from the person who designed it as well as whoever produced and marketed that item. And then I also think that as long as it's not sold as the real thing then maybe it's not too big a deal? I wonder if the people screaming that Clones knives are just as bad as Hitler(I exaggerate but some people get really mad) have ever downloaded music of movies/tv series they didn't pay for? I'm pretty sure most of us are guilty of that at some point lol. If I was forced to pick a side Im gonna go with don't buy clones, save up and get the real thing. One more thing, if a company is shady enough to steal a licensed design can you really trust them to be honest about the materials used in their products?! Is that really even D2?! Lol
Sorry for the long ass comment, I really enjoyed the video.
You bring up a good point about the steal and I agree. Someone else asked why i don't talk about the steel and I told them because I have no idea what it really is.
A lot of it is D2 regardless of markings. Most is heat treated poorly. I get my ad20.5 scary sharp though. One of my favorite knives and only 30$!!!!
I have a few very good ones from temu
No you don't, the only little that day that are people that know nothing about steel and heat treat, people who don't actually know quality
@@DABinCHRISTthey sell kizer knives....
@@druidic4353 who are you taking about?, the guy said he bought them from temu,
@@druidic4353 are you taking about the Chinese, yeah, they also make we knives and others, but counterfeit knives are not even those quality, and again the only people arguing for counterfeit quality are people that don't know steel and heat treat, and actual quality, I got scanned a Spyderco knives on eBay once, looked almost identical to the real thing, but it wasn't and I knew it instantly, everything about it was cheap, and weak, and the steel was garbage and I don't think they even heat treated it, but you guys keep arguing that counterfeit knives are quality, those that know the real knives will tell you they are not
that first benchmade otf looks like garbage at first glance tbh ...
Great video. I hit the sub. Do you have a link for the Dessert Warrior? I can not find it on the site. I have about 300 knives, both real and clones. Both have their place in my collection.
I just looked and it tells me it has been discontinued. However, I have seen that then the item pop up again.
The orange folder is a rike knives knock off
And the out the side "Microtech" is trying to be the LUDT.
20:06 its a knockoff of microtech LUDT
@@gasmaskcollectorreview1537 thank you.
@@appalachianknifereviews no problem
You're waving the knifes around, making them hard to look at.
How do they get away with using the name brands on these knives?
Based on China. Hard to do anything about it, I think.
Good video mate. I review knives on my channel too and have recently reviewed a fake Spyderco Para 3 from AliExpress. I've subscribed to your channel.
I have a brand new in the box Kershaw Livewire in Magnacut carbon fiber upgrade variant that I want to sell.
Trade?
Great video exposing the chinesium clones. Do some videos comparing cutting ability of clones to real versions.
yeah. gonna be doing that one real soon.
You no nothing about Cutting tools!!😂
*know
Learn to spell
I don't generally mind clones as long as they aren't pretending to be real thing, I don't like seeing the imitation branding because it makes me think that they are actually trying to trick people. For example I've got a copy Shirogorov but without any logos and it was listed under the companies own brand. It was actually pretty good but no comparison to my real ones. The Kershaw, Gaurdian Tactical and Hogue OTFs are much better bang for your buck in my opinion.
agreed. I would rather they say Huang Fu or something.
The orange Russian thing you've got there has got the Emerson wave feature on it which comes from Emerson knives
Thx. Like & subscribed.
The only people that think clones are good knives are people that know nothing about steel and heat treat and actual quality
Thts not true
@@eskee1 ok, name one clone that is a good knife with good steel that is the actual steel it claims to be and which has a good heat treat, and also has the same quality scales and parts as the original......... Well.....We're waiting, ok maybe that's a little hard, ok, name one knife expert here on RUclips or anywhere else that says clones are the same or better quality than the originals, that says clones have great steel and a great heat treat and great scales and other parts but it's somehow just selling it really cheap....... No....... You can't think of any.... Oh well, I guess you will still go on thinking your right and thinking you know knives and quality, I'm curious about something, what's your favorite steel and hrc for edge retention, for strength, for corrosion resistance, and what's there optimal hrc for that given attribute, what exactly is your favorite steel and hrc of that steel and why, why does hrc matter less than most people think it does, what's the best hrc for magnacut, and what we're most companies running there magnacut hrc at first, and why was it a problem when doing the same thing with every other steel wasn't as much a problem for these companies before, why was magnacut so different in that respect, what makes magnacut truly innovative and why is it so different from all other steel, what is the Pinnacle of sharpness, what attributes does a truly sharp knife have, what angle would you run a full flat grind rex45 with thin geometry for edge retention, what angle would you run a hard use knife at, what company would you call truly innovative, what was the most innovative knife at blade show 2024, not the knife that was awarded most innovative, but the knife that was actually the most innovative, which company would you say experts think of when they think of hard use and extremely strong folding knives, what production company has tier1 heat treats, what production companies are in 2nd place, what is the strongest folding knife lock, what is the best folding knife lock for safety, that keeps your fingers away from the edge while closing, what synthetic scales would you say are true quality and have excellent strength to weight ratio, which synthetic scales would you say are not quality, what type of titanium is considered quality and which is considered a downgrade quality, what is the most innovative thing to happen to titanium knife scales in the past 5 years, or here's a really good one, why will you never, ever ever ever hear a legitimate knife expert calling a counterfeit clone quality, should I keep going, can you answer any of those extremely simple questions, because believe me they are extremely simple and I'm no expert
@@DABinCHRIST I agree with you. But some of them can be good enough users, regardless. I don`t buy clones myself, but have handeled a few, and tested them out a bit. Best one was a somewhat expensive Sebenza 21 clone. Out of all my knives i think my old AUS8 American Lawman, has the most pocket time. And then my Buck Vantage Avid 13c26, or the Maix2 in 154cm. My newest favourite is the Stretch 2 in K390. I don`t buy into the steelhype that much. If you have good geometry, HT and sharpening it`s all good for 99.9% of the population. "Right tool for the job" and blablabla. :) If i had to pick: Carbon: 80crv2. Stainless: CPM154. Toolstell: K390 . Reason: They are fairly balanced, and can be used for most types of knives. Now K390 is hardly what most people would call balanced. But for what it is, i think it is. Even with all the alloying elements (esp. Vanadium) it still has good enough thoughness, and is quite "easy" to sharpen. The patina is just a bonus feature to "make it yours." I prefer backlocks or mod. Backlocks like the Tri-Ad lock for my hiking/camping/woods knife folders. And linerlocks/framelocks for EDC stuff. In general i also prefer thin grinds, and i make most of them semi-convex. Im not a fan of lockbar inserts/balls on titanium framelocks. Hence i my last Sebenza is a 21 made in 2014. And a gen4 Hinderer XM18 3.5. Can`t speak of Magnacut since i don`t have anything in that steel. And frankly, with the whole "debacle" surrounding it, im not going to for a while... As a sidenote I`d be interested to know what you think of the ESEE 1095 HT?
Your supporting theft.
Wouaou ... ^^
Its not a true Bencmade. Its a clone or what is refered to as a tourist knife. Kinda like those you see in tourist areas like Myrtle Beach or Gatlinburg. They are meant for those that know what those brand name knives should cost but see the super low price and snatch them up. Now don't get me wrong once in a bluemoon you will find one that actually holds up well enough to hold up to moderate use. The only problem is that resale value just isnt there unless you do the same thing and sale it to someone that doesn't have a better that average knowledge about knife companies makes models and designs. Some are truly just junk and not on par with gas station knives . Those that are a diamond in thr rough if well maintained will last for a while. They are also good starter knives for younger folks. You really dont feel that bad if you're beginner knife enthusiast looses a 15 to 20 dollars knife. This also lets you know that they aren't ready for a 150.00 Benchmade. However most Made in America Knife companies think thier products were kissed by angels and ya never want to really use them for fear of a wayward scratch or chip
They are copies !! That's for sure. It's crazy !! ^^
I don't undestand how it's possible to deal some clones. Even for the Chinese !! ...
It's totaly forbiden to do that ..! ^^
Way to ungerecated!!!! Say no to inbeading😂
I don't undestand. Is it some real ones. Benchmade, Kershow... ?? And one bad point, you don't tell the prices ..!
Go look them up dude but just know they are cheap as hell 😂
@@alexandregraulle607 because the prices change. Constantly. All these were sub $30.
bro I think you pander too much to your little watchers out here like you just put knives in a bad pile because they didn't have a black thumb stud or you can't open it what's the fit and finish like who cares about the labeling we know they're fakes or we know whatever they're just copies of somebody else's design that people you know can afford is The fit and finish good does it open smoothly you know is it just crappy because of crappiness or is it good because it's just a decently made now that's what you should have done that's what you should have said stop pandering to your crowd
David, feel free to make a video to your standards. I had less than 400 subs when I made this video. I wasn't pandering to anyone.
The “benchmade” otf at he beginning is probably supposed to be a infadel.
you might be right. A "custom" infidel.