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I have one of the newer SOCP models with the updated clip and it carries very nicely IWB at 1 o'clock canted inward. I do wish it had more positive retention but it hasn't been an issue for me so far. Never leave the house without it and my Endura.
Finally have both of these; really like this style of knife (non-karambit ring knife) and also recommended the 'Miseracordia' from Extrema Ratio in the same category.
I’ve got the BM short dagger w/new pocket clip and I absolutely love it! Can deploy from pocket quickly vs a standard pocket knife but carry both. Ya I’m a nerd grey review
Good stuff, I carry a socp as an edc blade in conjunction with folding blade. I carry with the clip in the front pocket. Mine seems to clip just fine, I've never pulled the blade with shealth on accident when trying to pull the blade out. Good video, good review, thank you for your service sir and god bkess.
Kept mine in molle and it never caused me any problems. I’m not sure if the metal clip did anything but the friction on the molle means it was never going to fail. I agree with the retention thing though.
They sell a clip so you can wear this knife inside the waist band and conceal it. Does the sheath just look this thick from the video? I want to get one, but I need to know if it is practical to use as an inside the waist band EDC. Great review! Thanks!
It is a tad thick, and i dont believe it would be easy to set up iwb, but i have sent mine out to black bear custom kydex for that reason, so we will see!
dude, I've been carrying a SOCP for years, just ordered the Halfbreed blades CCK yesterday. It hurt my dick to spend so much on a little knife so I seriously hope it's a good piece of kit
I have 2 Benchmade SOCP knives 1full size and 1 mini and I wouldn't have anything else. The Mini has a better clip to grip than the full size but both work very well for what they were meant for.
Are you saying that they were very well for what they are meant for because of all of the people you have stabbed? Or because of all of the people you think you could stab?
the spartan blades socp is a better sheath package imho, but benchmade package is much more economical..also fyi the spartan blades socp is s35vn steel if that means anything to ppl out there, that has influence on the price as well, in contrast my old benchmade socp was one from the first run and was 154cm, but i let a buddy take it off my hands as per the sheath snafus, but i kept the trainer. spartan blades does offer a trainer as well, its pretty dope just sayin, i like your comparisons
Hey Mate Law enforcement in Australia considering a benchmade for inside the Molle on my duty belt to the front for worst case scenarios. My question, the retention on the sheath, enough so that should a struggle go to ground is the knife likely to slip out? I don’t want to struggle to pull it out but not loose enough as soon as we go down it slips out
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors for what reason? Sorry if it was a stupid question, fixed blades for on duty LE are a no no here, but I’m prepping for worst case, and have minimal previous exposure to knives.
Thanks for the review very interesting. I own and train with the socp dagger. I carry it 1 o clock iwb for cross draw with the clip holding the fabric of the Jeans. And it never ever came out with the sheath so for me that works very good. I also considered the cck01 but honestly a 6mm blade ? I think thats to thicc and will hinder Penetration. But maybe im wrong on that. Have you tried penetration on something like a heavy bag wrapped with and old Jeans or something else? I sometimes do these tests and i feel 4mm should be the max Stock thickness for tactical self defense blades. Have a nice day sir.
Ill have to do some side by side testing, im sure i have some things that i can poke around here :-) Some advice i got from yeager that like usual- i questioned. Clips fail. Always. Period. On my way to a vehicle tactics class for farbham at dti in vegas and what happened? I drew my pistol and the holster came with it... after which it happened every time. No immediate access to the trigger. Imagine if that happened under stress!? I was so embarassed! With the socp- have you done any rolling/ ju-jitsu type training with it? To pass the "does it work reliably" test imho you have to sprint and fight with it, role with it, be under stress with it, because that is the environment for which it is meant to be deployed.
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors hey thank you for your reply. If you do some testing let me know your impressions would be highly appreciated! Thanks for your advice concerning the clip i will for Sure secure the sheath with paracord now. Regarding your question i mostly train boxing since i used to compete in local amateur fights here. we added some knife technics with some guys just a some time ago. So i mostly train in stand up and clinch Situation against the Wall etc but your advice is 100% correct i have to try it more often in Wrestling ground fight Situation. Sry for my bad english i hope you could understand everything.
Your english is great! I wish i were doing more boxing, but i have elbow problems, so i train to take the clinch to the ground and submissions and ground and pound. Im glad to hear you are training and THINKING, that is a rare combination! 👏
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors thanks for your feedback good to hear;) well yeah we all got our Problems we will have adapt to. sounds like you do great with that! Wish you a good time maybe let me know how you feel the both knifes compare in poking around:D
Check out the Tactical Force dagger on amazon. It's the $12 alternative to either of these overpriced knives. I had to do a bit of metalwork on mine to smooth the edges, but it's fantastic for what it is.
Hey man the new SOCPs have a clip that has hook and a slightly better retention. The old one still works great for apendix carry, just saying. Great video anyway man!
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors i think the new clip actually is fine, would give it some loctite though and maybe tape it to my vest, because that always works. The retention still could be better. A simple selfmade kydex sheath also does it, drawback of course is that it´s not that compact anymore, which was one of the best things. They are also making a shorter version now, which is not for me. (Sry for the long answet btw haha). have a good one!
Nice review, Jacob. You know I'll never buy a Benchmade knife where any of the $ would find it's way back to Benchmade, for the reasons you have previously gone over. I found myself wondering about the cost comparison, perhaps you could include that when you do the followup video.
IM NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT YOUR ISSUES WITH THE BM but i think its still more of a last ditch close in secondary and the half breed is easily a full size and full weight primary, 3.1 oz vs 6.5 oz
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors I think you have the original BM sheath new clip is acceptable enough in fact I wish it was on more small fixeds but the sheath retension it self is still sub par
@@Heywoodthepeckerwood kershaw, you can get 20cv blade under $100 made in usa. I how ever prefer coldsteel they aren't made in America but they are priced better and Taiwan is a democracy that is against ccp.
@@richardhenry1969 yeah, cold steal isn’t close to benchmade, nor is kershaw. Not even close. I own quite a few. I understand wanting to save money but damn. People complain about cost then complain about not finding good jobs in the US. I especially hold a little grudge towards people buying (tactical) Flashlights, optics and other other weapons from outside the US. Kinda defeats the purpose in my opinion. I understand when there aren’t other options but when there are I think it’s doing a big disservice. We should put our money where our mouth is. Especially when it comes to personal defense and the 2nd amendment. I also get it if there is no real upside when comparing the quality to the price but come on, there is no comparison between kershaw or cold steal and benchmade. Spiderco is close but is also made over seas.
@@Heywoodthepeckerwood exactly how are benchmade better. Because I've had benchmade and I will never waste money on them again. Matter fact my large Espada in xhp I would put up against anything benchmade has or my broken skull but waste your money if it makes you feel good
@@richardhenry1969 material for one, design innovation for two, and even just plain ol aesthetics for three. Although the third one is subjective. Benchmade has lead the knife world in many many ways. For instance creating the absolute best otf automatic knife. Pioneering the use of G10 “pretty much a knife world mainstay nowadays”, being the first to use things like titanium liners and bronze bushings. Creating the strongest and first innovation in locking tech for literally generations. I could go on. Cold steal gives their knives cool names and paints them black. By all means. Keep buying foreign made tools and telling yourself they are “just as good” while you watch the industry around you constantly get shipped over seas. Also, there is no reason to get mad and defensive.
If you sharpen that off-edge in Australia? It's the gas chamber for ya... mate! You know? Because that would guarantee to kill the user. Or turn them into a bloodthirsty maniac. Possibly both. On a serious note: love the honest review and some practical experience (even if it didn't involve blood other than your own... possibly), and the compare and contrast. I find the SOCP shaky, primarily because there is very little to get a hold onto to get it out: 1-inch circle which is partially inaccessible. I think it could easily become something of a roll of the dice to deploy fast while someone is actively killing you, point-blank.
Potentially! Of course training and practice is key, but the smaller anything is the more difficult it will be with adrenaline! I hope the Aussies can throw off their oppressive government, just as i hope we can throw off our own!
You would rather carry a big sharpened flathead screwdriver- inform us, if you would rather do that, how many times have you done it? Have you made a nice sheath for your kit to carry it around on duty? Or is the scope of your imagination so finite that they only thing you can invision is the actual act of stabbing someone, and nothing before or after?
Only issue I have with this video is this guy saying that 440C Stainless is “Tougher” than D2 Tool Steel. That is just false! D2 is by far tougher. 440C is a great Stainless Steel, but the higher chromium content makes it more brittle, which makes it less tough, and worn take an edge as well as the D2.
What a stupid comment. Take about 10 minutes to do some actual objective research on the toughness of d2 vs 440c. 440c actually has quite a high potential for toughness and an excellent balance of attributes- D2 does not.
sadly some one elses review shame i love the lines Pros: None Cons: None Bad quality worst customer service Ill start with it own a self defense gym and am a kali instructor as well, I teach civilians military groups and Leo's combatives and knife. This blade Comes in a an awesome box presentation i was so excited unboxing. I bought the trainer and the dagger However the blade quality I wouldnt recommend for ANYONE that actually wanted to use the blade. I havent had this blade 2 months and have only trained with the trainer in class. Took the actual blade out the otber day getting ready to go and gave it a light toss into some soft wood is have set up for throwing. The whole top 3/4" snapped off! I would never recommend that for an on the job life or death situation! So i emailed customer service they asked how it happened said it wasnt covered and ghosted me. I have a CRAP TON of blades its literally my job. I can say this blade had the best presentation but bad quality and worst customer service I guess thats a $300 loss
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors nothing against them design wise I like a lot of breed stuff. But there relatively unproven over time. Iv been eyeing that big stupid folder they have :)
Sweet knives. I hadn’t heard of Halfbreed knives before and have been looking for a blade like this. Thank you!
I have one of the newer SOCP models with the updated clip and it carries very nicely IWB at 1 o'clock canted inward. I do wish it had more positive retention but it hasn't been an issue for me so far. Never leave the house without it and my Endura.
Finally have both of these; really like this style of knife (non-karambit ring knife) and also recommended the 'Miseracordia' from Extrema Ratio in the same category.
I’ve got the BM short dagger w/new pocket clip and I absolutely love it! Can deploy from pocket quickly vs a standard pocket knife but carry both. Ya I’m a nerd grey review
Good stuff, I carry a socp as an edc blade in conjunction with folding blade. I carry with the clip in the front pocket. Mine seems to clip just fine, I've never pulled the blade with shealth on accident when trying to pull the blade out. Good video, good review, thank you for your service sir and god bkess.
I have heard that the new clips are better. Mine was PATHETIC
Great video man! Yeah I had to pass on the SOCP years ago did not like the sheath system all that much. The serrated version is cool as hell though.
The new clip for the socp is great, doesn't slip at all
great video and comparison!
Kept mine in molle and it never caused me any problems. I’m not sure if the metal clip did anything but the friction on the molle means it was never going to fail. I agree with the retention thing though.
I’d like to see what you think of the Spartan CQB too compared to the half breed as it looks like it addresses the sheath in a different way
I use a Tops Cut on my rig and edc, similar but it’s not double edge though
They sell a clip so you can wear this knife inside the waist band and conceal it. Does the sheath just look this thick from the video? I want to get one, but I need to know if it is practical to use as an inside the waist band EDC. Great review! Thanks!
It is a tad thick, and i dont believe it would be easy to set up iwb, but i have sent mine out to black bear custom kydex for that reason, so we will see!
Amazing blades & Background also TY 4 intel ;) !
dude, I've been carrying a SOCP for years, just ordered the Halfbreed blades CCK yesterday. It hurt my dick to spend so much on a little knife so I seriously hope it's a good piece of kit
I've been so please with the combat ax I'm going to get one of these to upgrade my current small knife.
💪🏻
Good review😃
I have 2 Benchmade SOCP knives 1full size and 1 mini and I wouldn't have anything else. The Mini has a better clip to grip than the full size but both work very well for what they were meant for.
Are you saying that they were very well for what they are meant for because of all of the people you have stabbed? Or because of all of the people you think you could stab?
the spartan blades socp is a better sheath package imho, but benchmade package is much more economical..also fyi the spartan blades socp is s35vn steel if that means anything to ppl out there, that has influence on the price as well, in contrast my old benchmade socp was one from the first run and was 154cm, but i let a buddy take it off my hands as per the sheath snafus, but i kept the trainer. spartan blades does offer a trainer as well, its pretty dope just sayin, i like your comparisons
that's funny, I have the exact same paracord setup on mine
great vid!
nice blade!!
I see you were looking at half breeds as well.
Hey Mate
Law enforcement in Australia considering a benchmade for inside the Molle on my duty belt to the front for worst case scenarios. My question, the retention on the sheath, enough so that should a struggle go to ground is the knife likely to slip out? I don’t want to struggle to pull it out but not loose enough as soon as we go down it slips out
Im definately feeling like this comment is a joke...
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors for what reason? Sorry if it was a stupid question, fixed blades for on duty LE are a no no here, but I’m prepping for worst case, and have minimal previous exposure to knives.
Thanks for the review very interesting. I own and train with the socp dagger. I carry it 1 o clock iwb for cross draw with the clip holding the fabric of the Jeans. And it never ever came out with the sheath so for me that works very good. I also considered the cck01 but honestly a 6mm blade ? I think thats to thicc and will hinder Penetration. But maybe im wrong on that. Have you tried penetration on something like a heavy bag wrapped with and old Jeans or something else? I sometimes do these tests and i feel 4mm should be the max Stock thickness for tactical self defense blades.
Have a nice day sir.
Ill have to do some side by side testing, im sure i have some things that i can poke around here :-)
Some advice i got from yeager that like usual- i questioned. Clips fail. Always. Period. On my way to a vehicle tactics class for farbham at dti in vegas and what happened? I drew my pistol and the holster came with it... after which it happened every time.
No immediate access to the trigger.
Imagine if that happened under stress!? I was so embarassed!
With the socp- have you done any rolling/ ju-jitsu type training with it? To pass the "does it work reliably" test imho you have to sprint and fight with it, role with it, be under stress with it, because that is the environment for which it is meant to be deployed.
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors hey thank you for your reply.
If you do some testing let me know your impressions would be highly appreciated! Thanks for your advice concerning the clip i will for Sure secure the sheath with paracord now.
Regarding your question i mostly train boxing since i used to compete in local amateur fights here. we added some knife technics with some guys just a some time ago. So i mostly train in stand up and clinch Situation against the Wall etc but your advice is 100% correct i have to try it more often in Wrestling ground fight Situation. Sry for my bad english i hope you could understand everything.
Your english is great! I wish i were doing more boxing, but i have elbow problems, so i train to take the clinch to the ground and submissions and ground and pound.
Im glad to hear you are training and THINKING, that is a rare combination!
👏
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors thanks for your feedback good to hear;) well yeah we all got our Problems we will have adapt to. sounds like you do great with that!
Wish you a good time maybe let me know how you feel the both knifes compare in poking around:D
Will do buddy!!!!
What is that knot called on the end of the benchmade sheath near the point?
A diamond knot :-)
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors need to learn that one
@@frozenturtlefarts1025 i can do a video, it can be frustrating but it isnt too bad.
Actually better videos than i can do are already up
Check out the Tactical Force dagger on amazon. It's the $12 alternative to either of these overpriced knives. I had to do a bit of metalwork on mine to smooth the edges, but it's fantastic for what it is.
Hey man the new SOCPs have a clip that has hook and a slightly better retention. The old one still works great for apendix carry, just saying. Great video anyway man!
That sounds better than what i had, but i still never trust a clip, i certainly had to learn the hard way!
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors i think the new clip actually is fine, would give it some loctite though and maybe tape it to my vest, because that always works. The retention still could be better. A simple selfmade kydex sheath also does it, drawback of course is that it´s not that compact anymore, which was one of the best things. They are also making a shorter version now, which is not for me. (Sry for the long answet btw haha). have a good one!
The Benchmade is nice you have to change the clip
those are fancy bottle openers i want one
guncotton 1 I wish we had a dollar for every time we get that👍🤣
ya but does it open bottles too because its really nice
guncotton 1 regrettably no😉
well i still think its well done
@@halfbreedblades hahaha i love that
Nice review, Jacob. You know I'll never buy a Benchmade knife where any of the $ would find it's way back to Benchmade, for the reasons you have previously gone over. I found myself wondering about the cost comparison, perhaps you could include that when you do the followup video.
Yes!!! How did i forget that!?!?!?!?! Ugh.
IM NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT YOUR ISSUES WITH THE BM but i think its still more of a last ditch close in secondary and the half breed is easily a full size and full weight primary, 3.1 oz vs 6.5 oz
Size is important- weight not so much.
The biggest difference in concealability between the two is the thickness of the HB sheath.
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors I think you have the original BM sheath new clip is acceptable enough in fact I wish it was on more small fixeds but the sheath retension it self is still sub par
@@markw7303 good to know!
Lyounkissed the sskallywag dagger bruh
benchmade fixed the awful clip a couple years ago
Nice review I'm not a fan of benchmade overpriced for what you get. Love palmetto state got my AR from them stay safe
Name another American made knife company that compares in quality of materials and design.
@@Heywoodthepeckerwood kershaw, you can get 20cv blade under $100 made in usa. I how ever prefer coldsteel they aren't made in America but they are priced better and Taiwan is a democracy that is against ccp.
@@richardhenry1969 yeah, cold steal isn’t close to benchmade, nor is kershaw. Not even close. I own quite a few. I understand wanting to save money but damn. People complain about cost then complain about not finding good jobs in the US. I especially hold a little grudge towards people buying (tactical) Flashlights, optics and other other weapons from outside the US. Kinda defeats the purpose in my opinion. I understand when there aren’t other options but when there are I think it’s doing a big disservice. We should put our money where our mouth is. Especially when it comes to personal defense and the 2nd amendment.
I also get it if there is no real upside when comparing the quality to the price but come on, there is no comparison between kershaw or cold steal and benchmade. Spiderco is close but is also made over seas.
@@Heywoodthepeckerwood exactly how are benchmade better. Because I've had benchmade and I will never waste money on them again. Matter fact my large Espada in xhp I would put up against anything benchmade has or my broken skull but waste your money if it makes you feel good
@@richardhenry1969 material for one, design innovation for two, and even just plain ol aesthetics for three. Although the third one is subjective.
Benchmade has lead the knife world in many many ways. For instance creating the absolute best otf automatic knife. Pioneering the use of G10 “pretty much a knife world mainstay nowadays”, being the first to use things like titanium liners and bronze bushings. Creating the strongest and first innovation in locking tech for literally generations. I could go on. Cold steal gives their knives cool names and paints them black.
By all means. Keep buying foreign made tools and telling yourself they are “just as good” while you watch the industry around you constantly get shipped over seas.
Also, there is no reason to get mad and defensive.
I prefer a Spartan Blades Cqb
Probably me too
Broken finger from the ring or dead?……..that’s a tuff one right there. 😒
I carry the trainer ONLY in California to avoid stupid laws….
Doesnt that also avoid the point?
If you sharpen that off-edge in Australia? It's the gas chamber for ya... mate! You know? Because that would guarantee to kill the user. Or turn them into a bloodthirsty maniac. Possibly both.
On a serious note: love the honest review and some practical experience (even if it didn't involve blood other than your own... possibly), and the compare and contrast. I find the SOCP shaky, primarily because there is very little to get a hold onto to get it out: 1-inch circle which is partially inaccessible. I think it could easily become something of a roll of the dice to deploy fast while someone is actively killing you, point-blank.
Potentially! Of course training and practice is key, but the smaller anything is the more difficult it will be with adrenaline!
I hope the Aussies can throw off their oppressive government, just as i hope we can throw off our own!
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors amen to that... Good luck to ourselves and our Australian friends!
I would rather carry a big sharpened flathead screwdriver ...5$ and deadly
You would rather carry a big sharpened flathead screwdriver- inform us, if you would rather do that, how many times have you done it? Have you made a nice sheath for your kit to carry it around on duty? Or is the scope of your imagination so finite that they only thing you can invision is the actual act of stabbing someone, and nothing before or after?
Only issue I have with this video is this guy saying that 440C Stainless is “Tougher” than D2 Tool Steel. That is just false! D2 is by far tougher. 440C is a great Stainless Steel, but the higher chromium content makes it more brittle, which makes it less tough, and worn take an edge as well as the D2.
What a stupid comment. Take about 10 minutes to do some actual objective research on the toughness of d2 vs 440c. 440c actually has quite a high potential for toughness and an excellent balance of attributes- D2 does not.
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors really? Looking for a hug end knife should I go m390 bohler or d2?
At 245$ for a balde no thanks unless the department paying for it iwill stick to the benchmade u can get them on ebay for sub 100$
sadly some one elses review
shame i love the lines
Pros: None
Cons: None
Bad quality worst customer service
Ill start with it own a self defense gym and am a kali instructor as well, I teach civilians military groups and Leo's combatives and knife. This blade Comes in a an awesome box presentation i was so excited unboxing. I bought the trainer and the dagger However the blade quality I wouldnt recommend for ANYONE that actually wanted to use the blade. I havent had this blade 2 months and have only trained with the trainer in class. Took the actual blade out the otber day getting ready to go and gave it a light toss into some soft wood is have set up for throwing. The whole top 3/4" snapped off! I would never recommend that for an on the job life or death situation! So i emailed customer service they asked how it happened said it wasnt covered and ghosted me. I have a CRAP TON of blades its literally my job. I can say this blade had the best presentation but bad quality and worst customer service I guess thats a $300 loss
Ill be stabbing one through kevlar and into sandbags etc-
But everyone knows a properly hardened knife shouldnt be used for throwing 🤷🏻♂️
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors nothing against them design wise I like a lot of breed stuff. But there relatively unproven over time. Iv been eyeing that big stupid folder they have :)
@@markw7303 i have the big folder, i have a lot of miles on it. If you can carry the weight it is SURPRISINGLY practical in hand!