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I love this channel. For anyone reading who cares, I have been using the G85 and G9 for my productions for the life of both cameras. I love both and wouldn't hesitate to recommend either--I came from Sony FF and also used Fuji for my photography. These cameras are the first that cured my camera hopping. I do not shoot 10 bit, but the G9 does have better image quality than the G85. Does it matter? Not really...I use the footage interchangeably in my videos. Both have excellent IBIS. The G85 can record for over an hour and 20 mins on the battery, the G9 gets about 45 minutes and has recording limits. The g9 doesn't crop at all, which is nice. The g85 has a better time lapse mode. I would say if you don't do any photography, the G85 is the deal of the century. If you do photography especially tracking photography like birds, then the G9 is what I would pick. Both are seriously underrated cameras and have completely changed my productions with their color out of the box, easy to work with files, simple menus, and incredible stabilization. Not having to bust out my slider anymore is a game changer. The only downside is both cameras make poor JPEGS so I have to shoot RAW, which wasn't the case with Fuji. Best of luck!
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Great comment thank you! The only thing that is keeping me to still not deciding between those 2 camera is the slow motion with g9 is so good like in 3:28 , it's the only thing that is missing for me on the g85 :(
"Backlitten like a hobo in a mall" Kasey consistently delivers some of the funniest one liners ever .Even if you don't care about cameras or vegetables visit for the humor ,he's brilliant!
My G9 rocks! Shot a music video using G9 with my daughters this week and the slo-mo is fantastic. I have the G85 too but with the new software update, the G9 is almost a GH5 with better processor and auto focus! Blessings!
I'm trying to decide between Fuji XT4 and G9. For travel, product, food, event shoots, do you think the G9 autofocus is reliable enough? The G9 is more attractive cos of the smaller form factor, weather sealing, and price. But the XT4 looks more attractive for it's low-light (and I can use my Sigma 18-35 with autofocus), but the other lenses are extremely expensive. And the 18-35 isn't weather sealed. Although I recently saw a short film of the G9 filmed at 2500 ISO with the 12-35 f2.8 at night and it's even cleaner than my Canon 200D at 3200 ISO at f1.8. I'm not too sure if G9's lowlight is as bad as everyone says.
@@professionalpotato4764 I have an XT4. The kit 16-80mm lens is what I have and I'm weak so it's heavy for something like vlogging, but for everything else it's great. The stabilization is nowhere near Panasonic, but definitely better than what Fuji had in the past. The auto focus has also improved, and there's like three or four af settings you can set. I do shoot quite a bit in lower light settings and I love the colors. I've also shot in windy, -12°C (6°F) weather and the camera didn't fail me at all. So it's really up to your needs. I would love to get a Panasonic for video only someday. As a hybrid, I love my Fuji.
@@dotty7789 I ended up buying a used XT4. For now I guess I won't need the weather sealing yet, but when travel becomes normal again, I'll likely pick up the 16-80 f/4. I like the range and usability for general purpose. I'm quite happy with the stabilization. As you said it's not perfect, but for static shots, it works perfectly fine. Fuji colours are definitely amazing. I'm getting addicted to the film simulations. Eterna LUT on F-log is very nice to work with too. So much better than the 8 bit colour on Sony cameras that I was using for work.
@@professionalpotato4764 yeeesssss, the colors are gorgeous. Before I had it, I didn't realize how addicted I would be to the colors. And I also have the 50-140mm when I really want to zoom into landscapes. Even with the pandemic, I've done day trips and small hikes and had fun testing the limits of the weather sealing. Super reliable even in the summer heat and winter cold.
The Panasonic G9 is the best camera is have owned. Ofcourse some of the full frame camera's do certain things better but they do a lot of things worse too. The G9 isn't bad at anything and has probably the best ergonomics around. I love it with the panasonic 10-25mm f/1.7 lens, it hardly comes of my camera.
Do not stop what you are doing, at this point in time your vid's are invaluable. I'm just am old guy who likes cameras, I think you've convinced me I need a G85, and I do not need another camera. My wife says so, but you are making me think different keep up the good work.
Hi applejack120, I've got a G85 and wife and want a G9 so the G85 isn't lonely. The G9 does have more CPU power to better handle auto focus over the G85. But G85 beats G9 on lighter weight and lower cost. The G85 is End Of Life so no new code while the G9 is still supported with code updates. What cameras (for video) do you already own?
I'm buying that DC-G9 this week Veggie-Man-Bro. Plus two f2.8 lenses. Ah, the glory of it. You helped me make that decision. Thanks my man. Monkey strength rules...... We need a new cripple hammer.
I own a G85 and of course I love it. I just don't see $1200 of improvement to upgrade to the G9. I shoot a lot more photography than you do and the G9 is definitely superior, just not $1200 superior. Another year with the G85 and probably a new lens with my June bonus. Thanks for the review!
Hi Kenny. I'm with you, I'd rather invest in the 12mm-60mm zoom rather than eat the cost of upgrading from G85 to G9. What lenses do you use with the G85?
Got the 8-18mm 2.8f and G85 fell apart 😢 Tons of warpy shit and more shake at below 12mm. Sucks. The kit 12-60mm lens with dual stabilisation is amazing, just not wide enough. I've never had the pleasure of using autofocus in my life - it sucks on G85. Time for a GH5 I think, just waiting to find one second hand cause GH6 is coming and I'm praying autofocus is fixed
Ram ram ji. I think I've seen you vlog your purchase haha. Possibly the last comment I expected to run into on this channel. I study Filmmaking and your content gives me so much context and perspective. Stay awesome my man.
Five (5) things I noticed: 1. The G85 absolutely DOES compete w/ it's younger but stronger brother from the same mother, the G9....as long as one focuses the damn thing (G85) correctly. 2. The G9's muted color science, different from the G85's, is tough to look at...UNTIL you added the Demon Lut! Then, the G9's true colors were brilliantly demonstrated! Well done. 3. Your Canadien Squirrels are blinder than coronavirus-covered bats... 4. Have to admit, we ALL enjoyed your Squirrel slo-mo segment...pretty epic! 5. Absolutely appreciating the newer music you created recently. I know there are only so many quarantined-hours one has in a day, but keep on making music when you can. Compliments your videos extremely well and being 100% totally original...makes your vids even better!
G85 still holding up. 👍 It's a hard one to beat. I like the idea of 10 bit for color but if we're doing little to no color adjustments then it's not really helpful. We deliver in 8 bit anyway. So for me, having a lighter camera setup is more important in these vlogging setups and it still looks like the autofocus is just too unreliable even in the G9. If Panasonic could only nail the autofocus, it'd be the perfect vlogging camera all around. But I'm not mad at the rest of the features they do offer (both G85 and G9). For me, the overall experience with shooting on Panasonic is enjoyable.
Watching those squirrels miss those bits is like watching a let's play where the person misses the important item. "It's right there, for god's sake!!!"
I bought G85 about a week ago, great camera apart from autofocus which is the worst of any camera out there. Hence I returned it. If Panasonic can address that, it would be brilliant camera for everyone. I will buy them again. Great video as always.👍
look at the autofocus specs for both cameras - the G9 has way more autofocus capability. And don't forget the G9 has a fully articulating screen which is a must for Camera Conspiracies!
@@dkeberhard My most humble apologies, I forgot the entire reason this channel exists, even though I've watched the video where he covers it precisely himself, and that is, the perfect camera is pretty much physically impossible within the budget he's willing to (and the general market is willing to) spend :-D
Ya the g85 has good colors but I think the g9 accuracy wise is probably what the scene really looks like. I have a g9 it's a good camera all around but honestly you are mostly paying for the little features bells and whistles
I think you should go for a multicamera setup... Have the G9 aimed at the ground for the squirrels and the G85 aimed at you. Solves all your problems and you don't need any separate workouts.
The G9 has better fleshtones and a different contrast curve, and to me these look better. It is strange that AF was better in 4k, must have something to do with the amount of processing needed to sample down to HD, just a guess. Overall the G9 seems to be an incremental increase in quality which is kind of expected. And each buyer will need to decide which level of performance they want to buy. A used g85 will be substantially cheaper than a new g9, probably 2 to 1 or maybe more.
Bro, I love your music in general, and I gotta say, this time boy oh boy that squirrel music, epic af (yes epic autofocus indeed ^^). You are a true artist, sir
IMO the G9 with 100-400 is the greatest outdoor combination there is from Portraits, to Binoculars, to Wildlife photos. I find animal detect AF works the majority of the time. Sometimes it will not lock on right away but few cameras can from a far distance. It's as lightweight as it gets for a wildlife setup and you don't even need the tripod attachment to hold the camera with the G9 body. It's of course not for everything like V-logging though lol. Let's not get silly.
Okay, I'm going to blow your mind... I just want the G85-Mark II... same weight and 100% same feature-set, but a bigger battery, better auto-focus, 1080P120, and the color-science-light from the S1.
Look I love the G9 but it’s not different league better than the G85. I tell you the G85 is a hell of a camera, I’ve sold 2 of them to upgrade and have now bought my third G80 at stupid cheap here in the UK. Where is Stacey, are you not self isolating together???
I bought a G7 and then a G9. The G85 came at the wrong time. I am happy with the G9 but am tempted to go to a full-time or medium format in addition to the G9. I have a few older crop sensor Canons and Nikons.
A real cool beat on the b roll - very slack. And very nice b roll btw...and I see you made øur vegetable channel also a "conspiracies one..."marketingwise" this is very cool. Especially in these days it fits better.
A1Bokeh - They don’t get that close in Florida because they don’t trust anyone. They’ve got so many hawks, owls, gators, and snakes after them that they don’t dare get close to any living thing that’s not a squirrel. Am I right?
I will probably pick up a G9 one day to replace my G85. I prefer the my A7iii with the Samyang 18mm for vlogging. This package is lighter and cheaper than the G9 with the 12mm 1.4. I added the Ulanzi UURig R031 flip screen as well.
The P14/2.5 is really nice, it's so small. The AF is pretty fast, but MF with the focus by wire is pretty awkward. Just don't bother with the P20/1.7 because the AF Is extremely slow.
Did you hear? The new G9 firmware comes with squirrel face detection. Only red tailed squirrels though. Northern reticulated squirrels should come in a later firmware update. Tempting!
You could make video about all those over used "cinematic" video name "broll" or "Epic B-roll" or "cinematic epic B-roll" or "super killer cinematic walking Park epic B-roll :"
Have you tried the EF-S 10-18mm on an adapter with your Panasonic (or any other vlogging) cameras? I guess it could be interesting for you, since it's very cheap, stabilized and most importantly super small and lightweight. Not long enough for squirrel or bird action though. And you'd need to look into adapting it. Thanks for all these videos. They bring some joy into my life!
Update to my G9 commitment from yesterday: I am considering the Fujifilm X-T4. I am totally torn between MFT and Fuji. I need the power of vegetables and monkey strength to get through this.
@@cameraconspiracies I decided to purchase the Nikon D780. My plan is to wait for an X-T4 discount structure by October 2020. Why? The availability of Nikon F mount glass, and the use of lenses and flashes for my Finepix S3 Pro can be utilized. What do you think? I value your opinion.
Those are some tasty looking squirrels. Far meatier than our squirrels in NC. I picked up the Lumix 14mm last month and I'm very pleased. I'm trying to decide which lenses to take with me to Nepal in October and right now I'm thinking the 14mm/f2.5, my Leica 12-60mm, and maybe a longer lens, but I keep reminding myself that where I'm going, every ounce counts. The 14mm focuses rapidly and can be picked up inexpensively. It is sooooooo tiny. I've also considered just taking the Sony x3000 and the G85 with either the 14-140mm or the 50-200. I think the Sony is plenty capable for vlogging and then the G85 will just be for distant shots.
There's no better stabilization in the industry than Panasonic and Olympus, whenever I'm watching videos that I know were shot in Canon, Sony or Fuji (even with some sort of stab on), I can see and feel the shakiness and micro jitters.
Love the squirrel at the picnic table segment! Looks like he has been to the groomers. Since you only shoot Leica, there is simply no reason to do any further tests with Canon.
Amazing squirrel footage, the best on the internet. I think the G85 has more pleasant image but the auto focus on the G9 is superior, if my GH5 had that auto focus it will be the perfect camera (for me)
Enjoyed your video as usual. I still think you should look again at the G95. The G9 is better in almost everything, but the weight of the G95 is only marginally heavier than your G85 and it has improved autofocus and is fine with the 12mm 1.4. so worth upgrading from G85.
@@cameraconspiracies if you can live with the extra weight then there is absolutely no reason. You were complaining about the extra weight compared with the G85 in your video, and all I'm saying is that if your conclusion is that the G9 is too heavy, then there is still a worthwhile upgrade from the G85, although it's not as good as the G9.
The difference is not as pronounced as I would have thought. After all, the G9 has 10-bit color now, and it also produces UHD and DCI 4K with no crop. I suspect we would see more of a difference when trying to color grade the footage.
I'm more a stills man than video. So the G9 wins hands down for me. More MP's and focus points, faster shutter speed, pixel shift and a third higher resolution through the viewfinder. Make this camera a good upgrade for the stills photographer. The current price is a steal at the moment too. However, for the videographer (Vlogger) I would have to agree that there is probably little difference. So things like weight gives the G85 a distinct advantage for long hand stretched vlogs. I imagine the G95 would be a good upgrade perhaps, with its added headphone port and Bluetooth. But the current price probably makes it hard to justify for some.
Still useless autofocus as in all Panasonic m4/3 cameras. I had a g7 and sold it, pain in the a** always hunting. But the image quality is quite nice, you can't have everything. Although now I own a Nikon z6 and I'm much happier!
Since the gap between Lumix G7 to Nikon Z6 more than US$ 1000 so there's not a valid option to rant about. So stay away with your bulky Nikon fullframe lenses. Let he play with the squirell without trumatized by that cannon size lenses 😁
I really want to get the G9, and was very invested in the whole "idea" of it, but as a "newb", I just found out it has only 29 minute recording limit? Im interested in the G9 for vlogging usage. Im so confused. I love how crisp and sharp and cinematic the G9 looks but 29 minutes?
@@cameraconspiracies lol. not 30 minute straight, I didn't want to vlog for 30 minute straight. of course it would be short clips, but my question was does the recording limit cut off at 29 minute? meaning I cannot record after 29 minutes? meaning all I have for the day is 29 minute??!!! lol.....I know, ridiculous question but im telling ya, I HAVE NO CLUE! lol. thats why I ask the former vegetable police who is now vegetable conspiracies even though I am on the camera conspiracies channel. (I usually come to this channel when you haven't posted a new vid yet in the other) thats how much I miss you, buddy. I have to say I have been watching you through the most traumatic times in my life, and some happy times in my life, and still to this day, I watch you everyday. I find a real friend in you, and the funniest person I know. you always make me laugh when Im going through so much in my life.. and I can't thank flat earth Santa enough for bringing you into my life even if its through youtube. my only wish is you lived in NYC, even though I am a hardcore introvert like you. You're the best and I love you to death!!!!! can't believe I finally got this off my chest, lol. its been YEARS watching you ..... you are so creative and talented!!! gosh I feel better getting that off my chest....your soul really radiates and you can feel from your eyes that you are present and speaking to your viewers. ..I have always wanted to tell you this, but I was always afraid you may laugh at it or find it weird and I didnt want to be hurt because thats how much I value you! also, I miss reggie. and also, are you doing it? (sv3rige accent) lol
@@sararaiss21 Nah it means it can only record 29minutes at a time, most likely cos it will overheat. So yes you can record a 29 min clip and stop and record another 29min clip for a vlog, you just can't record for an hour-long straight.
Long time ago there is additional tax for a camera can record more than 30 minute (in europe) There's why the Lumix G80 for europe and G85 for worldwide (G85 without 30 minute recording limit) But for this Lumix G9 it more concerning for overheat protection.
Keep doing the videos in this quality, looks really good and is nice to see that video. Is really an upgrade not just the camera maybe is the same but the video looks more professional, in the other videos you are all sweaty in a room and it's not very nice to see it hahahaha
Don't do it, unless you can exchange the 85 for a g9 for a couple hundred more. The G9 is fantastic, but you already have a GH5. How many m43 do you really need? Next should be a full frame to give yourself some flexibility, maybe the upcoming R6, which is supposed to be very video focused.
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Im a Sony shooter myself but if I see a G85 for a bargain I just might get one for fun
fanalist well done U Finished 1st lOl
g85 or osmo action, and why? i want to shoot some video playing guitar
Best squirrel footage you’ve ever shot
Eric Jennings by far. He’s found the perfect squirrel cam.
This is the camera squirrels don't want you to know about.
The squirrels around here in Eastern N.C. are just the Eastern Gray. We don't have cool 50/50 brownish things near the coast.
This is the greatest camera based RUclips channel to ever exist
Agreed. @grainydays is good too if you are a lowly film photographer like myself.
Your squirrel footage is becoming legendary sir, you are the one true “squirrel whisperer”!
LOL
G85 still holds its own after all these years
Agree; I just bought one, after retiring one of the four GX85s in the studio. I like the G85.
I love this channel. For anyone reading who cares, I have been using the G85 and G9 for my productions for the life of both cameras. I love both and wouldn't hesitate to recommend either--I came from Sony FF and also used Fuji for my photography. These cameras are the first that cured my camera hopping. I do not shoot 10 bit, but the G9 does have better image quality than the G85. Does it matter? Not really...I use the footage interchangeably in my videos. Both have excellent IBIS. The G85 can record for over an hour and 20 mins on the battery, the G9 gets about 45 minutes and has recording limits. The g9 doesn't crop at all, which is nice. The g85 has a better time lapse mode. I would say if you don't do any photography, the G85 is the deal of the century. If you do photography especially tracking photography like birds, then the G9 is what I would pick. Both are seriously underrated cameras and have completely changed my productions with their color out of the box, easy to work with files, simple menus, and incredible stabilization. Not having to bust out my slider anymore is a game changer. The only downside is both cameras make poor JPEGS so I have to shoot RAW, which wasn't the case with Fuji. Best of luck!
Great comment thank you! The only thing that is keeping me to still not deciding between those 2 camera is the slow motion with g9 is so good like in 3:28 , it's the only thing that is missing for me on the g85 :(
"Backlitten like a hobo in a mall" Kasey consistently delivers some of the funniest one liners ever .Even if you don't care about cameras or vegetables visit for the humor ,he's brilliant!
First video I watched it struct me from his humor - this guy is Canadian. Then I see a TTC street car roar past.
My G9 rocks! Shot a music video using G9 with my daughters this week and the slo-mo is fantastic. I have the G85 too but with the new software update, the G9 is almost a GH5 with better processor and auto focus! Blessings!
I have a doubt. Going yo G9 or GH5 because GH5s has a better quality with los light but hasn't IBIS and only 10 mpx un photo.
I'm trying to decide between Fuji XT4 and G9. For travel, product, food, event shoots, do you think the G9 autofocus is reliable enough?
The G9 is more attractive cos of the smaller form factor, weather sealing, and price.
But the XT4 looks more attractive for it's low-light (and I can use my Sigma 18-35 with autofocus), but the other lenses are extremely expensive. And the 18-35 isn't weather sealed.
Although I recently saw a short film of the G9 filmed at 2500 ISO with the 12-35 f2.8 at night and it's even cleaner than my Canon 200D at 3200 ISO at f1.8. I'm not too sure if G9's lowlight is as bad as everyone says.
@@professionalpotato4764 I have an XT4. The kit 16-80mm lens is what I have and I'm weak so it's heavy for something like vlogging, but for everything else it's great.
The stabilization is nowhere near Panasonic, but definitely better than what Fuji had in the past. The auto focus has also improved, and there's like three or four af settings you can set. I do shoot quite a bit in lower light settings and I love the colors. I've also shot in windy, -12°C (6°F) weather and the camera didn't fail me at all.
So it's really up to your needs. I would love to get a Panasonic for video only someday. As a hybrid, I love my Fuji.
@@dotty7789 I ended up buying a used XT4. For now I guess I won't need the weather sealing yet, but when travel becomes normal again, I'll likely pick up the 16-80 f/4. I like the range and usability for general purpose. I'm quite happy with the stabilization. As you said it's not perfect, but for static shots, it works perfectly fine.
Fuji colours are definitely amazing. I'm getting addicted to the film simulations. Eterna LUT on F-log is very nice to work with too. So much better than the 8 bit colour on Sony cameras that I was using for work.
@@professionalpotato4764 yeeesssss, the colors are gorgeous. Before I had it, I didn't realize how addicted I would be to the colors. And I also have the 50-140mm when I really want to zoom into landscapes. Even with the pandemic, I've done day trips and small hikes and had fun testing the limits of the weather sealing. Super reliable even in the summer heat and winter cold.
I'm still blown away at how amazing those Panasonic cameras look. The colors are so filmic.
They are great with lots of light (in and outdoors). Lighting is key.
The Panasonic G9 is the best camera is have owned. Ofcourse some of the full frame camera's do certain things better but they do a lot of things worse too. The G9 isn't bad at anything and has probably the best ergonomics around. I love it with the panasonic 10-25mm f/1.7 lens, it hardly comes of my camera.
Best camera comparison video since lockdown started 14 years ago. For me G85 color looked warmer but skin tones yellower.
Do not stop what you are doing, at this point in time your vid's are invaluable. I'm just am old guy who likes cameras, I think you've convinced me I need a G85, and I do not need another camera. My wife says so, but you are making me think different keep up the good work.
Hi applejack120, I've got a G85 and wife and want a G9 so the G85 isn't lonely. The G9 does have more CPU power to better handle auto focus over the G85. But G85 beats G9 on lighter weight and lower cost. The G85 is End Of Life so no new code while the G9 is still supported with code updates. What cameras (for video) do you already own?
Idk. I have the G85.. Based on what I see... Now I want the G9..
Watching this 3 years later and the G85 still looks good
- Hair's looking glorious my dude.
- Squirrels look so cool close up.
- Really noticed how cool your music was in this one.
I'm buying that DC-G9 this week Veggie-Man-Bro. Plus two f2.8 lenses. Ah, the glory of it. You helped me make that decision. Thanks my man. Monkey strength rules...... We need a new cripple hammer.
Primes for m43 ;) kicks butt.
F2.8 won't give you great performance. Look at lenses under f1.8 like the prime Leica or Sigmas
I own a G85 and of course I love it. I just don't see $1200 of improvement to upgrade to the G9. I shoot a lot more photography than you do and the G9 is definitely superior, just not $1200 superior. Another year with the G85 and probably a new lens with my June bonus. Thanks for the review!
Hi Kenny. I'm with you, I'd rather invest in the 12mm-60mm zoom rather than eat the cost of upgrading from G85 to G9. What lenses do you use with the G85?
I've been debating for months between the two, Its the G85. Smaller, cheaper & still retains top features. Thank you Hippy
Got the 8-18mm 2.8f and G85 fell apart 😢 Tons of warpy shit and more shake at below 12mm. Sucks. The kit 12-60mm lens with dual stabilisation is amazing, just not wide enough. I've never had the pleasure of using autofocus in my life - it sucks on G85. Time for a GH5 I think, just waiting to find one second hand cause GH6 is coming and I'm praying autofocus is fixed
Ram ram ji. I think I've seen you vlog your purchase haha.
Possibly the last comment I expected to run into on this channel.
I study Filmmaking and your content gives me so much context and perspective. Stay awesome my man.
Comparison of the decade and we miss the side by side comparison! Thanks for the video, ANYWAYS!
Five (5) things I noticed:
1. The G85 absolutely DOES compete w/ it's younger but stronger brother from the same mother, the G9....as long as one focuses the damn thing (G85) correctly.
2. The G9's muted color science, different from the G85's, is tough to look at...UNTIL you added the Demon Lut! Then, the G9's true colors were brilliantly demonstrated! Well done.
3. Your Canadien Squirrels are blinder than coronavirus-covered bats...
4. Have to admit, we ALL enjoyed your Squirrel slo-mo segment...pretty epic!
5. Absolutely appreciating the newer music you created recently. I know there are only so many quarantined-hours one has in a day, but keep on making music when you can. Compliments your videos extremely well and being 100% totally original...makes your vids even better!
G85 is pretty good but I think the G9 is a wayyyyy more versatile. My vote is G9 all day.
G85 still holding up. 👍 It's a hard one to beat. I like the idea of 10 bit for color but if we're doing little to no color adjustments then it's not really helpful. We deliver in 8 bit anyway. So for me, having a lighter camera setup is more important in these vlogging setups and it still looks like the autofocus is just too unreliable even in the G9. If Panasonic could only nail the autofocus, it'd be the perfect vlogging camera all around. But I'm not mad at the rest of the features they do offer (both G85 and G9). For me, the overall experience with shooting on Panasonic is enjoyable.
The toneh is appealing with this one. Not too much not too little. Maybe tony northcup should move from his white beard eos R’s to the g9 panny
Always enjoy the squirrel's appearance, makes me smile.
Cool review, as usual. The G9 is definitely better.
So, I guess you could send me the G85 now. Thanks :p
Agreed.
I can watch your vids without audio and still understand everything from your gestures.
Watching those squirrels miss those bits is like watching a let's play where the person misses the important item. "It's right there, for god's sake!!!"
I bought G85 about a week ago, great camera apart from autofocus which is the worst of any camera out there. Hence I returned it. If Panasonic can address that, it would be brilliant camera for everyone. I will buy them again. Great video as always.👍
Somebody give this man a GX9 ASAP! I reckon he'd fall in love immediately and pronounce it the perfect IBIS equipt camera for vlogging. Do it.
look at the autofocus specs for both cameras - the G9 has way more autofocus capability. And don't forget the G9 has a fully articulating screen which is a must for Camera Conspiracies!
@@dkeberhard My most humble apologies, I forgot the entire reason this channel exists, even though I've watched the video where he covers it precisely himself, and that is, the perfect camera is pretty much physically impossible within the budget he's willing to (and the general market is willing to) spend :-D
*EPIC* squirrel B roll here! Your best work, ever.
Oldish video..but thought the g85 colours seems perhaps the best you have used! And those squirrels..gotta love them!
We love our G85. Even in this video we still like it better. The weatherproof feature makes up for the slow auto focus.
The G85 looks just as good, if not better.
Ya the g85 has good colors but I think the g9 accuracy wise is probably what the scene really looks like. I have a g9 it's a good camera all around but honestly you are mostly paying for the little features bells and whistles
I'm just surprised you now are discovering the G9. Its a great all around camera.
I think you should go for a multicamera setup... Have the G9 aimed at the ground for the squirrels and the G85 aimed at you. Solves all your problems and you don't need any separate workouts.
He said it! Now if someone has a 42.5 T1.2 lens to donate for him, it's time.
The G9 has better fleshtones and a different contrast curve, and to me these look better. It is strange that AF was better in 4k, must have something to do with the amount of processing needed to sample down to HD, just a guess. Overall the G9 seems to be an incremental increase in quality which is kind of expected. And each buyer will need to decide which level of performance they want to buy. A used g85 will be substantially cheaper than a new g9, probably 2 to 1 or maybe more.
I have a G85 and am struggling with either keeping the G85 and buying the 12-60mm zoom lense verses upgrading the G9 body instead.
I thought that the T stands for Transmisson, but now I know it's for Toneh, thx Camera Conspiracies!
I like the “wildlife” video! Very entertaining overall
congrats, i just got my knew laptop alienware m15, spent $3000 and my first youtube video was yours.
Your squirrel B-roll music is some of the best on all of RUclips. Never mind which camera is best.
Bro, I love your music in general, and I gotta say, this time boy oh boy that squirrel music, epic af (yes epic autofocus indeed ^^). You are a true artist, sir
IMO the G9 with 100-400 is the greatest outdoor combination there is from Portraits, to Binoculars, to Wildlife photos. I find animal detect AF works the majority of the time. Sometimes it will not lock on right away but few cameras can from a far distance. It's as lightweight as it gets for a wildlife setup and you don't even need the tripod attachment to hold the camera with the G9 body.
It's of course not for everything like V-logging though lol. Let's not get silly.
Nothing beats the g9 for now. But i would wait for the next iteration of that one
I'd love to see a Phase Detect G9 sometime.
2 Great cameras & 2 Great lenses, i thought they were both great tests....id be happy with either....WOW Panasonic...
Can't believe you managed to get a T-Shirt on that squirrel, can't see the Camera Conspiracy logo on it though, a missed opportunity....😄
Congratz on the 100k, im been binge watching you for the last month are so, since I discovered your awsam content!
Okay, I'm going to blow your mind... I just want the G85-Mark II... same weight and 100% same feature-set, but a bigger battery, better auto-focus, 1080P120, and the color-science-light from the S1.
You should adopt the squirrel with the black jacket. Good review. I have the G85, but would love to add the G9.
Look I love the G9 but it’s not different league better than the G85. I tell you the G85 is a hell of a camera, I’ve sold 2 of them to upgrade and have now bought my third G80 at stupid cheap here in the UK.
Where is Stacey, are you not self isolating together???
Daaaaaaaamn that beat at 3:19 is SICK!
Best slow motion squirrel footage ever. I started filming squirrels. Surprisingly enjoyable.
The stabilization and autofocus looked damn good.
I bought a G7 and then a G9. The G85 came at the wrong time. I am happy with the G9 but am tempted to go to a full-time or medium format in addition to the G9. I have a few older crop sensor Canons and Nikons.
I second that best squirrel shootin. Best content I’ve seen since VCR days
Love my g7, gh4, g85 but my latest G9 is my fav!
The g85 is most of the time is good with stabilization and auto focus. But then some days it's like I don't want work today.
A real cool beat on the b roll - very slack. And very nice b roll btw...and I see you made øur vegetable channel also a "conspiracies one..."marketingwise" this is very cool. Especially in these days it fits better.
Those squirrels are pretty friendly. I'm in Florida and they aren't black and dont get that close
They are the size of cats as well. Never seen such large squirrels here in SC either. They look buff. They must work out.
A1Bokeh - They don’t get that close in Florida because they don’t trust anyone. They’ve got so many hawks, owls, gators, and snakes after them that they don’t dare get close to any living thing that’s not a squirrel. Am I right?
I will probably pick up a G9 one day to replace my G85. I prefer the my A7iii with the Samyang 18mm for vlogging. This package is lighter and cheaper than the G9 with the 12mm 1.4. I added the Ulanzi UURig R031 flip screen as well.
Would need a gimbal though.
The P14/2.5 is really nice, it's so small. The AF is pretty fast, but MF with the focus by wire is pretty awkward. Just don't bother with the P20/1.7 because the AF Is extremely slow.
Masterful gesticulation!
For Video G9 is the best camera, no need for bigger sensor. For photo still very good but I prefer results from full frame with ultra wide angle
Did you hear? The new G9 firmware comes with squirrel face detection. Only red tailed squirrels though. Northern reticulated squirrels should come in a later firmware update. Tempting!
You could make video about all those over used "cinematic" video name "broll" or "Epic B-roll" or "cinematic epic B-roll" or "super killer cinematic walking Park epic B-roll :"
Have you tried the EF-S 10-18mm on an adapter with your Panasonic (or any other vlogging) cameras? I guess it could be interesting for you, since it's very cheap, stabilized and most importantly super small and lightweight. Not long enough for squirrel or bird action though. And you'd need to look into adapting it.
Thanks for all these videos. They bring some joy into my life!
You missed your Kasey Attenborough documentaries channel. like the squirrel Missed the hazelnut you tossed him
😹Loved every minute of this vid. You have a unique style, i like that!
Update to my G9 commitment from yesterday: I am considering the Fujifilm X-T4. I am totally torn between MFT and Fuji. I need the power of vegetables and monkey strength to get through this.
I would probably lean Fuji myself.
@@cameraconspiracies I decided to purchase the Nikon D780. My plan is to wait for an X-T4 discount structure by October 2020. Why? The availability of Nikon F mount glass, and the use of lenses and flashes for my Finepix S3 Pro can be utilized. What do you think? I value your opinion.
Those are some tasty looking squirrels. Far meatier than our squirrels in NC. I picked up the Lumix 14mm last month and I'm very pleased. I'm trying to decide which lenses to take with me to Nepal in October and right now I'm thinking the 14mm/f2.5, my Leica 12-60mm, and maybe a longer lens, but I keep reminding myself that where I'm going, every ounce counts. The 14mm focuses rapidly and can be picked up inexpensively. It is sooooooo tiny.
I've also considered just taking the Sony x3000 and the G85 with either the 14-140mm or the 50-200. I think the Sony is plenty capable for vlogging and then the G85 will just be for distant shots.
THANK U FOR INTRODUCING THE WORLD TO HERBERT 🐿️🌰
were u using animal detect af?
That squirrel is built man, could see the muscles on that thing in 4K....oh wait
I think if you dont mind manual focus, the image quality is gorgeous on the G85 and is alot of bang for your buck.
The squirrel footage got you a sub :P
There's no better stabilization in the industry than Panasonic and Olympus, whenever I'm watching videos that I know were shot in Canon, Sony or Fuji (even with some sort of stab on), I can see and feel the shakiness and micro jitters.
If you shoot in 1080, you can just set up an easy sensor crop function, then you have a 12-120mm range when using the 12-60mm.
what are in you the squirrel whisperer!! awesome squirrel shots!
Epic squirrelage (squirrel + footage) 👍👍🐿
You and the squirrel both have the exact same Bug-Eyes when you get close to the Camera! Ha!
Love the squirrel at the picnic table segment! Looks like he has been to the groomers. Since you only shoot Leica, there is simply no reason to do any further tests with Canon.
Master of squirrel footage.
Amazing squirrel footage, the best on the internet. I think the G85 has more pleasant image but the auto focus on the G9 is superior, if my GH5 had that auto focus it will be the perfect camera (for me)
He never enabled the autofocus on the g85, so there was no comparison. I wish he would have.
That squirrel was wearing a jumper (sweater) 😳
Lightweight ibis vlogging showdown, G9 vs Olympus EM5-III hopefully soon!
So the 'perfect camera' appears to be a G85 'X' with Phase-Detect or LIDAR Auto-focus, 10-bit + better Slomo? Panasonic will have a winner.
Enjoyed your video as usual. I still think you should look again at the G95. The G9 is better in almost everything, but the weight of the G95 is only marginally heavier than your G85 and it has improved autofocus and is fine with the 12mm 1.4. so worth upgrading from G85.
Why would I look at downgrading what I already have and losing 10 bit and 180fps?
@@cameraconspiracies if you can live with the extra weight then there is absolutely no reason. You were complaining about the extra weight compared with the G85 in your video, and all I'm saying is that if your conclusion is that the G9 is too heavy, then there is still a worthwhile upgrade from the G85, although it's not as good as the G9.
Glorious animal b-roll my friend!
Really loving these camera police videos! :)
The difference is not as pronounced as I would have thought. After all, the G9 has 10-bit color now, and it also produces UHD and DCI 4K with no crop.
I suspect we would see more of a difference when trying to color grade the footage.
Whatever lens you started with on the g85 looked very stable. I think you should have left the g85 in autofocus on to do a pure test.
I'm more a stills man than video. So the G9 wins hands down for me. More MP's and focus points, faster shutter speed, pixel shift and a third higher resolution through the viewfinder. Make this camera a good upgrade for the stills photographer. The current price is a steal at the moment too.
However, for the videographer (Vlogger) I would have to agree that there is probably little difference. So things like weight gives the G85 a distinct advantage for long hand stretched vlogs. I imagine the G95 would be a good upgrade perhaps, with its added headphone port and Bluetooth. But the current price probably makes it hard to justify for some.
9:08 the invisible chupacabra passed by...
I agree autofocus worse in 1080p which is odd
Don't wary, you always mes something up ... that's way we all subscribed. LOL. O an @9:40 "Ime backlight like a hobo" that was hilarious!!!
Still useless autofocus as in all Panasonic m4/3 cameras. I had a g7 and sold it, pain in the a** always hunting. But the image quality is quite nice, you can't have everything. Although now I own a Nikon z6 and I'm much happier!
But the Z6 is much more money 😕
Since the gap between Lumix G7 to Nikon Z6 more than US$ 1000 so there's not a valid option to rant about.
So stay away with your bulky Nikon fullframe lenses.
Let he play with the squirell without trumatized by that cannon size lenses 😁
Which Leica 42.5mm are You Talking About? The Panasonic Leica DG "" Nocticron 42.5mm f/1.2 ""
Wonderful. Thank you for the comparison.
I really want to get the G9, and was very invested in the whole "idea" of it, but as a "newb", I just found out it has only 29 minute recording limit? Im interested in the G9 for vlogging usage. Im so confused. I love how crisp and sharp and cinematic the G9 looks but 29 minutes?
Who vlogs for 30 minutes straight?
@@cameraconspiracies lol. not 30 minute straight, I didn't want to vlog for 30 minute straight. of course it would be short clips, but my question was does the recording limit cut off at 29 minute? meaning I cannot record after 29 minutes? meaning all I have for the day is 29 minute??!!! lol.....I know, ridiculous question but im telling ya, I HAVE NO CLUE! lol. thats why I ask the former vegetable police who is now vegetable conspiracies even though I am on the camera conspiracies channel. (I usually come to this channel when you haven't posted a new vid yet in the other) thats how much I miss you, buddy. I have to say I have been watching you through the most traumatic times in my life, and some happy times in my life, and still to this day, I watch you everyday. I find a real friend in you, and the funniest person I know. you always make me laugh when Im going through so much in my life.. and I can't thank flat earth Santa enough for bringing you into my life even if its through youtube. my only wish is you lived in NYC, even though I am a hardcore introvert like you. You're the best and I love you to death!!!!! can't believe I finally got this off my chest, lol. its been YEARS watching you ..... you are so creative and talented!!! gosh I feel better getting that off my chest....your soul really radiates and you can feel from your eyes that you are present and speaking to your viewers. ..I have always wanted to tell you this, but I was always afraid you may laugh at it or find it weird and I didnt want to be hurt because thats how much I value you! also, I miss reggie. and also, are you doing it? (sv3rige accent) lol
@@sararaiss21 Nah it means it can only record 29minutes at a time, most likely cos it will overheat. So yes you can record a 29 min clip and stop and record another 29min clip for a vlog, you just can't record for an hour-long straight.
@@crystelledafre youre the best!!!! thank you for answering.... you have saved me from going crazy trying to find the answer!!!!!! woohooooo
Long time ago there is additional tax for a camera can record more than 30 minute (in europe)
There's why the Lumix G80 for europe and G85 for worldwide (G85 without 30 minute recording limit)
But for this Lumix G9 it more concerning for overheat protection.
Keep doing the videos in this quality, looks really good and is nice to see that video. Is really an upgrade not just the camera maybe is the same but the video looks more professional, in the other videos you are all sweaty in a room and it's not very nice to see it hahahaha
Don't do it, unless you can exchange the 85 for a g9 for a couple hundred more. The G9 is fantastic, but you already have a GH5. How many m43 do you really need? Next should be a full frame to give yourself some flexibility, maybe the upcoming R6, which is supposed to be very video focused.