Rory when Sir Alex Left It Was The End of the Phenomenon that was Sir Alex Prior to Mr Ferguson Manchester United Were a Cup Club Without a Title in about 26 or so years!! So it was easy to see that as soon as Fergie Left We Would be Back to Being a Cup Team Hence the only things we've won since Fergie are Cups Scrap the Lot And i mean the Lot!!! Mainoo Garnacho Onana Yoro Are Not Good Enough if You Seriously want to Rebuild!! Stop Fooling Yourself Rory WE ARE FINISHED!!!
The issue United have is that they've been riding "we're Manchester United" for far too long. The biggest problem they'll have moving forward is finding players wanting to join.
@@almsivi123 You’re right, I take it back. Class of ‘92, the treble, Old Trafford, Busby Babes! Please can we sign more 50 year olds on 600k a week? That’ll work!
Been like that donkeys years, the only way they end up at United is the huge wages and they have no shame. They know they'll not succeed so they don't try even. So their value when being sold is lower too, can't move some players on at all. They pay and pay again
Fergie cast the whole club as a mission to catch Liverpool. fallen off the moment he walked away & now Liverpool will pull back clear in the next decade
Think United fans need to accept they’re going the way of Everton. Players who aren’t good enough on silly amounts of money. Owners who definitely won’t spend on the required quality, will be 20 or so years until their next title.
@@redboyjan but that’s my point, Ratcliffe will never spend the money to make those correct decisions, he won’t even spend money on a Christmas party, so I wouldn’t hold your breath
What are you on about… Getting ‘too big for our boots’… because we won?? We are a top 10 PL team (along with Fulham and Bournemouth) so face facts, we are a ‘big’ team compared to the 82 teams below us. Enjoying our day in the Sun a lot.
Totally agree with what you said about Ratcliffe, I think any thinking person knew from day 1 that his comments about being a 'boyhood Manchester United fan' were complete bs and tbh I think the only reason he won the bid was because of the bad PR that the Qatari group was getting prior to the world cup. As a United fan, I wouldn't mind being relegated to the conference league if it meant the Glazers fucked off once and for all, in fact I would welcome it.
Lack of Physicality and athleticism are 2 huge reasons why we keep getting slapped. United are exposed at home because they can't sit in a compact unit and hit on the break, so when they are more expansive at old Trafford is where they have problems home teams have to take the initiative and force their game on the visitors that's when united come unstuck. I predicted 3-1 to Brighton today United got what they deserve
I’ll never feel sorry for them or anyone related to them - on a sporting level at least. I remember the years of grief I took from them. No sympathy from me.
Not a United fan myself but starting following the club after they got Amorim as a manager so its very easy for me the see things clearer with no bias whatsoever. I've been saying United has a terrible group of players for years now, not only they're not athletically ready for this league but also mentally. They were hired to play a super defensive style and win (sometimes) by counter-attacks. Amorim is trying to push the team in a another direction but he will fail with this team and the board is not helping him, there are talks about pushing some of these terrible players these overpaid players out on loan without bringing in reinforcements right now to ease the transition is ludicrous! From what i've seen United got a new board but nothing really changed for the better did it?
They aren’t from the stretford end… - that’s what he said - fans were booing from the stretford end!!!! He has no bench - the players look tired and we have had no left back for 18 MONTHS .. this board have chosen not to invest 😂😂 😢we just gotta laugh
Said this before we should have had qatar. Ratcliff is glaziers 2.0. but some of our fans were talking about "white washing" now you can enjoy where we are heading with no complains. Let us fans who wanted qatar complain.
Trying to say pep or klopp couldn't get better performances from that united squad ? In my opinion they would don't get this idea of what can amorin do, if he is the top class coach he's apparently supposed to be then he would be finding a different style of play and formation atleast temporary until he gets players to play his "system "
Well not sure where the sorry comes from! He left his team midway and you want to tell me he didn't see the troubles ahead? I don't feel sorry for him mate, United is a trap until management changes its ways
Yeah yeah have heard the same things for 10 years now. Recruitment owners coach.. take your pick. They can change everything they want they’ll never come back, they are too far behind now. They will relegate within 2 years mark my words
@@hcmcjb, you shouldn't even be watching football if you think Ten Hag isn't a horrible manager. He has taken the club backwards. Name one player he signed out of the hundreds of millions he spent that the club can count on to be a valuable member of the team moving forward? He should be in jail for signing Antony and Ramus. He should receive a life ban from football for getting rid of De Gea for the fraud called Onana.
"Amorim has done well" He has won 4 games in the league in 3 months. You have been listening to McKola way too much. Most of Unitid points this season were won by Ten Hag and he had 3 less games. Edit: one less game forgot about Ruud's two games. So he has only won 3 games in the league.
Liverpool is slow and sometimes useless in the transfer market but when they do make signings they usually have come good this last decade, and your last 3 managers have been very good with the last one being arguably the best. Your board is sometimes poor, the United board is completely useless.
@@jacobbirnbaum457 the united players have not helped as well it looks like they turn up for the big games but then full short with teams they don’t respect. Brighton are a very good well organised team and club.
Liverpool fan also, FSG are overly cautious at times and it’s frustrating that we get silence on signings etc but they’re nowhere near as bad as Utd’s owners. Utd seem to just spend a fortune on players who aren’t good enough for the level of quality needed and then end up stuck with them for years because of the wages they pay them.
I felt sorry for the players. They simply gave up on a formula that didn't work. Amorim has got to change and stop deflacting his fault to the team pack with international players.
if Giggs knew his United history he would see that UNited have gone much longer without a title than Liverpool?! ... oh but of course Football only started in 1993 didn't it or just after Liverpool's1990 title?!
I disagree with this narrative of that this is just the players, we all know the club is rotten to the core, its been butchered as a cash cow by the glazers and now INEOS are destroying what's left of the club. Why would the players want to play when the club is being depleted year on year and is in utter chaos eroding all the values that made it man united a local club with pride - manager merry go round for several year, firing of all the staff, cancelling Christmas parties, removing the former players 40k annual payment to support former player families. This team is capable of a top 6 finish i don't doubt that, they are several world class or former world class players. We are potentially seeing another man city of the late 90s, is it league 2 for united in not too long? Something is rotten in the state of Denmark and its not just Rasmus.
Why??? Nobody felt sorry for ten hag when his 2nd season burned because of all the injuries. When he came here he took that team to 3rd and a cup. With no help. This guy is lost. Dumping ten hag and van nistelrooi is a jinx
I enjoy your content Rory but this is a horrible take. He courts controversy and always has, even as a player. There's a reason Liverpool never went for him. Mourinho is his idol and his tantrums are straight out've that playbook. At least Mourinho was once a good manager who protected players. Throwing them under the bus like this is latter day Mourinho. Ruben does not care one iota and wants sacking and paid off right now. He's a joke and is trying to protect himself. Terrible management and even worse that that, the actions of a cowardly individual with no confidence in his own ability. I wouldn't feel sorry for him Rory. A brief read of his wikipedia page will tell you the kind of character he is.
In general, I think football fans & pundits give managers too much credit and too much blame. The truth is that players determine the outcome on the pitch. If you don't have good enough players or your good players are injured... You are going to struggle! Simple as.
I've been a fan of United for 60 years. I agree with you 💯 %. The vast majority of the players are not good enough to play for United. Or for any other team in Premier league. I'd go so far as to say that they aren't good enough for the 2nd tier. I also feel sorry for Amorim.
Honestly as a lifelong United fan I’ve never felt so emotionally disconnected from the squad. I’d probably sell the entire team bar Amad, Bruno and Yoro and start again. It’s mental how we do the same thing week in week out expect a completely different result
That scene in braveheart where William Wallace pulls the mask off to find its Robert the Bruce is like a United fan pulling off Joel glazer mask to find its Ratcliffe
How can you feel sorry for him it's his job to pull that squad write a good manager Mas be able work with what he have available he got a squad that cost alot of money he must stop moaning and do what he gets paid for
Erik Ten Hag is a poor manager? You taking the piss? Won 3 league with Ajax and was 15 seconds from a CL final? The man won 2 trophies in 2 years and NO one gave him a chance. He also kicked Ronaldo out which needed to happen, dealt with the Mason Greenwood situation admirably, sold players who needed to leave and also had to be mocked on live television by Alan Shearer in the face of winning the FA Cup. Just the tip of the iceberg. The platyer AGAIN let him down.
These exact problems hes naming about the playing staff, the ownership are the exact same things ten hag had to deal with. Its almost like United's issues run deeper than the manager
@robbyscott9834 Never a managers fault. they are just the puppet, and Amorim is not playing that game. You can clearly see that. Ten Hags hands were tied at the end, and you can see how he lost his authority toward the end of last season in his interviews. Ruben did say there will be pain, and is MORE than happy to clean the place down because it stinks.
3:17 Rory, please at some point we need to stop using this "biggest club in the world', maybe once they were in history under Sir Alex.. But currently? What makes them any more different than Everton?
There's a few metrics you could use. How many trophies How many fans How much money they generate yearly Also all of those things plus the synergy of them/more things. Now whether they are the highest in the world is up for debate but in all of those things plus more they are more than Everton lol. I'm not even a man Utd fan but that's obvious
"I feel sorry for Amorim" I don't he knew the task he was taking on, he was given an ultimatum from the circus know as Manchester united as you can have the job now or never. He should have possibly not accepted the job. Trying to turn a club around in it's current state using a formation which lets face it is pretty much alien to the current players without having a pre season and transfer window was unfeasible. To make the changes he is trying to make mid season is ridiculous he should know that and even the idiots running Utd currently should know that. He might be a decent manager but playing 5-4-1 which let's not kid ourselves that is pretty much what is happening with how deep the team are playing is not what anyone wants to see of a Manchester United team. Stats show no team as won the Premier league playing 5 at the back. Why would you feel sorry for Amorim it was his choice nobody forced him to take job and he's getting paid handsomely. It's the supporters who you should be feeling sorry for.
Why, just why, can't United have a real transitional period? This season is a write off, we're still in cups but its a few games out of the season, the league is pointless. Id rather accept the losing this season, than see Amorim revert to a 4-2-3-1 relying on individual moments which is what these players want and have only wanted for years. Why does Amorim have to change his system for these players? As a United fan, I want the system, I do not want these players at all. Its not like Ten Hag had a style of play or system that looked any better, or was any more successful this season. Amorim's football actually keeps possession, in most games it does play higher up the pitch, and if its done right with the right playing staff it can win titles.
Rory I actually respect all your Manchester United videos. Probably the least biased. Most of United channels get super emotional and it’s a hard watch
That's what happens when time glazers give bankers like Arnold and Woodward control of football recruitment for more than a decade, I wouldn't trust bankers to be in control of my banking let alone recruitment of players at one of the biggest clubs in the world
I'm a Man united fan from Portugal. I know Amorim from the Sporting time. He is brilliant, but he needs the tool to work. He made Sporting a winner after 19 years of disgrace . I believe in him, is not a quieter, but needs good players.
You say about ten harg but it was never this bad and I'm a Liverpool fan and this makes me feel sad that they can only turn up against us I want the competitive united
The 5 at the back only works when you have technical wing backs that suite the system and right now thats showing. There's a lot more issues than this but I am not for one second saying Amorim needs to ditch the system because if anything he needs to continue the system to prove a point that these players just aren't good enough and gives him justification to get rid of whoever he wants and replace them with players that are capable and more suited to play in this system.
Agree with a lot of your points but the criticism of Hoijland shows a lack of knowledge, there is zero service given to him yet he has one of the best conversion rates in the Pl. Since his signing, he faces the same challenges that also affected other top class strikers such as Ronaldo and Cavani yet receives even more criticism despite him being young and still developing
No, he needs to implement his system that wins titles. These players have had it too easy, expecting managers to build their team around them, its the same reason United have lived with a 4-2-3-1 for about a decade now, despite having no real success. As a United fan, this season is a write off already, I dont really care if we lose the majority of games until may, as long as Amorim keeps trying this system, finding who fits it and who doesnt. Why would he change his style of football that won titles, topped the champions league path when he was in charge of sporting this season, a system that battered Man City, because these LOSING set of players dont want it. They have to adapt or leave
yeah, good evening. do not be, he brought it upon himself with his ideologies of chopping and changing the formation to suit his style of football. clearly, it is NOT working for manchester united. he definitely needs a different strategy, this is NOT sporting lisbon. this is manchester united, get it. i am just waiting for an update from the board of directors about his performances lately, because he has been appalling. much appreciated, truth be told
We crap ourselves every time they get the ball because we can't handle any sort of pressure which means we can't play out from the back and through midfield which also means anyone who's up front is working the graveyard shift.
I dont feel bad for the manager at all he chose the job, his formation and tactics arent working so he has to fix it, so glad liverpool got Slot instead
Slot is a lucky manager, Jurgen k left slot a fantastic squad, the early fixtures were kind, he has been lucky with injuries compared to rivals and results are going Liverpool way every week
how can you feel sorry for a Manager who clearly doesn't know what he is doing .He cant adapt at all ,its my way or the highway with players that either cant understand or play his style of football . Cant always blame it on the players the manager thought he could come here with his team wave his magic wand and change it all . That ´s on him ps this squad outplayed City in the cup final and made us all so proud so no excuses about the players blablabæa as manger you have to get the best out of them players by being adaptable . Ask ten hag he tried his system didnt work as it takes many years to make the entire squad your own and to be able to play your system ,It doent go faster by being stubborn and losing most games .Patience is something we United fans dont have and that is the biggest problem .
Of course ownership is garbage and that’s not going to change. Gotta get rid of Bruno & Onana first. Bruno is not a captain. Onana wouldn’t make an MLS squad!
I've been impressed by the support for the players generally, despite this slow slide to mid table. It's not the players' faults they've been bought for huge money and on big wages
@redboyjan they're professional footballers,on huge wages.yet they can't play decent football for 5 minutes. Instead of our support we should push them through other means. Just like Barcelona and real madrid,they won't shy away from whistles and boos if players don't earn their wages.
@Roman.Rêbwar been a long time since the players tried at OT. And still they get paid huge. It's obvious to any player arriving that they'll likely see no success there. Professional millionaires
thats because most of utd fans thought these players was good enough to play the system, which they are clearly not. finally they are starting to see it years later...........
INEOS are the British Glazers. They chose not to hire Amorim in the summer because they said his system doesn’t fit the squad profile they have. 5 months later they bring him in cause he’s the name everyone is talking about and then choose not to back him thinking he can make this work.
As a United fan I agree with ALMOST everything you said. But Hojland is a good striker. Whether he is United quality is yet to be seen, but he has ZERO service. All the best strikers have players feeding them. How often do you see Halland beat 4 men and score a screamer? That’s what we are asking Hojland to do. No one sets him up - almost every goal he has scored for us he has had to set himself up. I feel sorry for him.
Back in 2001 you paid 1% of your money for a ticket . And the game was awesome. Now you pay 20% of your money for sometimes crap VAR or players thinking they Are bigger than Club.
When Ineos met with Amorin he asked he'd preferred to come in the summer & Ineos basically told him it was now or never & now he's here they won't back him with players..🙈
Rory is when spurs lose: Ange is a fraud Rory when man united lose: Amorim is the best manager in the world Make it make sense, you clearly have a bias against Aussies but you just don't wanna say it 🥱
That club is rotton to the core and im sorry to say liverpool are brilliant they looked at amorim and new he was a stubborn 3 at back and liverpool new it was a disaster its a specialist system that takes years to get players and work .liverpool identified slot and rest is history . Liverpool honestly dont get much wrong do they
Fans? They were calling Son a wanker after loss to Everton. Fans are fickle, especially in today's age of social media. I'd say ignore the fans and focus on the game.
Man Utd fans aren't booers?😂😂 Even Fergie & his side got booked in the early days when he was struggling before turning it around & delivering astounding success
Why on earth did the glazers and Sir Jim bring in a manager in November knowing he didn't have the players to play his system and then not support him in the January window but then why didn't they sack ten hag in May and get Ruben in pre season and give him the 200 m they gave ten hag
Don’t feel sorry for Amorim. He knew what a mess United is and took the job anyway. Also, his style doesn’t work with this squad so he should change which he doesn’t
there's no point continuing to rehash the mistakes of the past at this point Utd need to accept that they are where they are. Realistically that means the league season is a bit of a write off now, Utd aren't realistically going to be relegated and top half of the table is also a bit of a stretch- they should use the league games as a sort of beta test for the new system. If they can get to even a 50% win rate that would be an improvement. They should then focus on being more practical and pragmatic in the cups and Europa League to try and win or progress as far as possible in those as that's the only realistic chance they have of salvaging something respectable from this season now.
Amorim's win percantage after 15 games is 33.3%. At every other club he managed, it was over 70%. If he doesnt turn things around at Man utd, he has ultimately tarnished his carear which just began
To say Ineos are just glaziers is idiotic, the glaziers don't care about the state of their cash cow. Look at the stadium, all the ridiculous signings we're under their neglectful oversight, the ridiculous financial strain previous management led to them selling part to Ineos before bankruptcy occurred. The biggest mistake they made was not to come in and rip everything up straight away like Chelsea. I personally think this was ironically a cost saving exercise to what could be selvaged.
I don't think there's much Amorim can achieve with these players. They've been showing (some of them for nearly a decade) that they can't be consistent, yet every time they make a mistake, their apologists come out en masse to point to the time when they were good for a while. That's not enough and you're spot on. With these archetypes in the squad, there will always be a ceiling. When the squad is littered with them, its an infection that eventually spreads to other players. You see these lads come in, look great then over time, the errors start to creep in. INEOS imo need to make a list of every player that's made a mistake leading to a goal more than twice since they arrived. The same with any forward that's missed a handful of great chances that they've not gone on to redeem in the same game. Once they have that list, punt the lot of them to whatever club will take them cos that's their level.
Not saying anybody did a great job there and amorim does seem to have the right mind but their team does seem better then they perform. I mean you could have a midfield 3 of ugarte, fernandes and mainoo, a defense with de ligt, yoro, dalot, shaw and a front three with rashford, diallo and hojlund with garnacho coming off of the bench. I know it's not the formation they play but that's just some names. That's not a bad team imo. You can say dalot is crap but he's been a portuguese starter for years now, a lot of times ahead of somebody like cancelo which does prove there is some quality there.
The players only get up for single important games such as derbies, knock-offs, trophies and much touted games against bitter rivals. The reward is immediate. But for a regular, weekly fixture, they don't put out their absolute best. It's just another game where there is no immediate reward and regardless if you win or lose, you'll play again next week. The long-term goal of finishing at or near the top of the table seems vague, too hard, too laborious. My take on it anyway.
All due respect. How the hell are you saying Ramsdale is a better keeper than Onana. Im not saying onana is much better but ramsdale has conceded the most goals in the league whereas onana has kept united in quite a few games this season especially against Southampton
As a united fan I don’t feel sorry at all for him. United’s version of Graham Potter at Chelsea Our players have gotten worse since his arrival. His system is dross and he’s getting away with it. People thought ETH was bad but Jesus Christ ETH looks like a world beater compared to this man. If he doesn’t change it soon he’ll be gone.
Do Rory ever come to the point? It's just a continuous verbiage - everything is repeated multiple times in slight variations but never ever closes in on something concrete
I feel sorry for Amorim too. The players are a bit like the club, famous and wealthy but crap. Amorim desperately needs some pace on the flanks. He should never have come mid-season, I bet he regrets that now.
Fans don't understand Jack! They keep making excuses for Mainoo. They never ask why Ugarte is failing? Oh, play Kobbie 10 6 12 13 just to accommodate a non athletic player. Premiership is a different monster.
Genuinely, tell me, what can Amorim do differently? They are a mess but it isn't his fault?!
Yes.
Rory when Sir Alex Left It Was The End of the Phenomenon that was Sir Alex
Prior to Mr Ferguson Manchester United Were a Cup Club Without a Title in about 26 or so years!!
So it was easy to see that as soon as Fergie Left We Would be Back to Being a Cup Team
Hence the only things we've won since Fergie are Cups
Scrap the Lot And i mean the Lot!!!
Mainoo Garnacho Onana Yoro
Are Not Good Enough if You Seriously want to Rebuild!!
Stop Fooling Yourself Rory
WE ARE FINISHED!!!
Go back to Sporting, he was better off there.
Go back to basics 4 - 4 - 2.
Not much at the moment. Just sell and sign the right signings.
The issue United have is that they've been riding "we're Manchester United" for far too long. The biggest problem they'll have moving forward is finding players wanting to join.
Such a 2D copy paste opinion
Well said, utter hubris.
@@almsivi123 You’re right, I take it back. Class of ‘92, the treble, Old Trafford, Busby Babes! Please can we sign more 50 year olds on 600k a week? That’ll work!
Been like that donkeys years, the only way they end up at United is the huge wages and they have no shame. They know they'll not succeed so they don't try even. So their value when being sold is lower too, can't move some players on at all. They pay and pay again
@@almsivi123 Because its blindingly obvious. The club since the 2010s has been the definition of a nostalgia industry. At some point it has to move on
So United always turn up for their one “Final” of the season against Liverpool then it’s back to default settings?
Turned up against city and Arsenal aswell. This has nothing to do with Liverpool, stop playing the victim
@cjm9166 united turn up twice a year ANFIELD. .and your dump...HAHAHA THANKS 🎉
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The guy on ur pfp helped us A LOT in that game😂😂😂
Fergie cast the whole club as a mission to catch Liverpool. fallen off the moment he walked away & now Liverpool will pull back clear in the next decade
@@johnfloyd4166 1 title in 35 years, pathetic. Go pick a fight with Leicester and Blackburn fans
Think United fans need to accept they’re going the way of Everton. Players who aren’t good enough on silly amounts of money. Owners who definitely won’t spend on the required quality, will be 20 or so years until their next title.
Agree mate only seeing us getting worse every year
Eleven years and counting. Be 3 or 4 years to compete, if, and only if the club made ALL the right moves. They aren't unsurprisingly
@@redboyjan but that’s my point, Ratcliffe will never spend the money to make those correct decisions, he won’t even spend money on a Christmas party, so I wouldn’t hold your breath
@lewistrahearn4911 bloody marvellous isn't it. Like one of Fergie's fine wines. A magnificent sitcom
United’s owners have spent more money than literally every team in the world and pay the highest wages 😂😂😂
Man u signed Hojland caused it sounded like halland
City's striker is spelt Haaland its pronounced Horland. Hoijland at man ure? Who is he?
Hojlund goes to let’s say Bayern and I can guarantee you he will tear it up
And then united fans will cry saying like “why did we let him go”
@@HyunsReportdelusional
"it" 😂😂
You say united losing to Brighton at home is unacceptable. We've beaten them in 6 of the last 7 meetings. 😂
have ur moment in the sun, yous are a well run club but you're getting too big for ur boots now. never will be a big club
@@paladinomega3098 get used to it mate, we're only getting better.
What are you on about… Getting ‘too big for our boots’… because we won??
We are a top 10 PL team (along with Fulham and Bournemouth) so face facts, we are a ‘big’ team compared to the 82 teams below us.
Enjoying our day in the Sun a lot.
@@paladinomega3098 United haven't acted like a big club for 15 years and have become the 2nd biggest in England 😂
you miss ten hag admit it
Any club with top-four aspirations would have gotten rid of Onana after his disasterclass in the Galatasaray game - and that was in 2023.
@@Whipko mid table team
Manchester United won’t and the fans are terrified to criticise him.
Finger pointing is for the weak
Well said.
Totally agree with what you said about Ratcliffe, I think any thinking person knew from day 1 that his comments about being a 'boyhood Manchester United fan' were complete bs and tbh I think the only reason he won the bid was because of the bad PR that the Qatari group was getting prior to the world cup. As a United fan, I wouldn't mind being relegated to the conference league if it meant the Glazers fucked off once and for all, in fact I would welcome it.
He had a chelsea season ticket. Never a united fan.
Lack of Physicality and athleticism are 2 huge reasons why we keep getting slapped. United are exposed at home because they can't sit in a compact unit and hit on the break, so when they are more expansive at old Trafford is where they have problems home teams have to take the initiative and force their game on the visitors that's when united come unstuck. I predicted 3-1 to Brighton today United got what they deserve
Peak Barca didn’t have much physicality or athleticism. 95% of the United players are just shit at football. Let’s just call a spade a spade
I’ll never feel sorry for them or anyone related to them - on a sporting level at least.
I remember the years of grief I took from them. No sympathy from me.
i stand with you on this statement ... if they got relegated it would be up there with one of the happiest days of my 36 years on this planet
ooh cry me a river, we ruined all of your childhood. kick us when we're down, we'll be back to the good ol' days soon
@@paladinomega3098You won’t, those days are over, Man Utd are no longer a big fish in a small pond.
@@paladinomega3098
I am crying a river. A river filled with tears of laughter.
@stanettiels7367 boo hoo 😭 cry baby 👶
I don't feel sorry for him. He abandoned Sporting halfway through a league winning season.
Exactly, and everyone seems to forget this little nugget of information. Guy's a charlatan. Hope they give him a10 year contract.
Not a United fan myself but starting following the club after they got Amorim as a manager so its very easy for me the see things clearer with no bias whatsoever.
I've been saying United has a terrible group of players for years now, not only they're not athletically ready for this league but also mentally. They were hired to play a super defensive style and win (sometimes) by counter-attacks. Amorim is trying to push the team in a another direction but he will fail with this team and the board is not helping him, there are talks about pushing some of these terrible players these overpaid players out on loan without bringing in reinforcements right now to ease the transition is ludicrous!
From what i've seen United got a new board but nothing really changed for the better did it?
They have to sack their players. You cannot pay those wages for those players.
“Man U fans are not boo-ers” What are you on?
Takes a lot for them too boo….
They aren’t from the stretford end… - that’s what he said - fans were booing from the stretford end!!!! He has no bench - the players look tired and we have had no left back for 18 MONTHS .. this board have chosen not to invest 😂😂 😢we just gotta laugh
Ratcliffe won’t buy any players in January.. so we have no wing backs for Amorim 😆🤦🏼♀️🥃 it’s a fucking joke
There is no Man u
I don't feel sorry for him. He knew what he was getting in to, he didn't have to take the job.
Said this before we should have had qatar. Ratcliff is glaziers 2.0. but some of our fans were talking about "white washing" now you can enjoy where we are heading with no complains. Let us fans who wanted qatar complain.
Trying to say pep or klopp couldn't get better performances from that united squad ? In my opinion they would don't get this idea of what can amorin do, if he is the top class coach he's apparently supposed to be then he would be finding a different style of play and formation atleast temporary until he gets players to play his "system "
Well not sure where the sorry comes from! He left his team midway and you want to tell me he didn't see the troubles ahead?
I don't feel sorry for him mate, United is a trap until management changes its ways
Yeah yeah have heard the same things for 10 years now. Recruitment owners coach.. take your pick. They can change everything they want they’ll never come back, they are too far behind now.
They will relegate within 2 years mark my words
You’re smoking crack mate
no need to feel sorry for him, he already knew it before he came..and yet he still chose to come
You’re clueless if you say EtH is a poor manager mate
onana wasn't the greatest choice
He is poorer than poor. Absolutely clueless manager
what about all the signings he made? rasmus, malacia, onana,antony,zirkzee,erikson. ETH is a terrible manager
@@hcmcjb, you shouldn't even be watching football if you think Ten Hag isn't a horrible manager. He has taken the club backwards. Name one player he signed out of the hundreds of millions he spent that the club can count on to be a valuable member of the team moving forward? He should be in jail for signing Antony and Ramus. He should receive a life ban from football for getting rid of De Gea for the fraud called Onana.
"Amorim has done well"
He has won 4 games in the league in 3 months. You have been listening to McKola way too much. Most of Unitid points this season were won by Ten Hag and he had 3 less games.
Edit: one less game forgot about Ruud's two games. So he has only won 3 games in the league.
As a Liverpool supporter I feel how the united fans feel. It’s poor management from the top down
Trees rot from the top down
Liverpool is slow and sometimes useless in the transfer market but when they do make signings they usually have come good this last decade, and your last 3 managers have been very good with the last one being arguably the best. Your board is sometimes poor, the United board is completely useless.
@@jacobbirnbaum457 the united players have not helped as well it looks like they turn up for the big games but then full short with teams they don’t respect. Brighton are a very good well organised team and club.
Liverpool fan also, FSG are overly cautious at times and it’s frustrating that we get silence on signings etc but they’re nowhere near as bad as Utd’s owners. Utd seem to just spend a fortune on players who aren’t good enough for the level of quality needed and then end up stuck with them for years because of the wages they pay them.
@ 1000% and when things go badly they fold, especially at Old Trafford
I dont. I back him, hes alright, hes doing the right thing and has the balls to upset the dressing room.
Bruh Højlund was so amazingly good both in the euros and the serie a. The man doesn't even get to touch the ball.. XD
How good was he at the Euros and in the poor Italian league? He is nowhere near United quality.
I like hojlund but he stunk out the euros in the summer
I felt sorry for the players. They simply gave up on a formula that didn't work. Amorim has got to change and stop deflacting his fault to the team pack with international players.
I know United players are not good enough, but why Amorim is getting the free pass for not getting the stick?
Why aren't MU fans happy? All I heard a few months ago is "..clear style of play ". Now they have it!
Ohh shush would you.
United are the gift that keep giving giggs said they’ll never b like Liverpool go 30 years without a title Jesus there goin right way about themselves
if Giggs knew his United history he would see that UNited have gone much longer without a title than Liverpool?! ... oh but of course Football only started in 1993 didn't it or just after Liverpool's1990 title?!
I disagree with this narrative of that this is just the players, we all know the club is rotten to the core, its been butchered as a cash cow by the glazers and now INEOS are destroying what's left of the club.
Why would the players want to play when the club is being depleted year on year and is in utter chaos eroding all the values that made it man united a local club with pride - manager merry go round for several year, firing of all the staff, cancelling Christmas parties, removing the former players 40k annual payment to support former player families.
This team is capable of a top 6 finish i don't doubt that, they are several world class or former world class players.
We are potentially seeing another man city of the late 90s, is it league 2 for united in not too long?
Something is rotten in the state of Denmark and its not just Rasmus.
Why??? Nobody felt sorry for ten hag when his 2nd season burned because of all the injuries. When he came here he took that team to 3rd and a cup. With no help. This guy is lost. Dumping ten hag and van nistelrooi is a jinx
Hojlund would bang in a team that created chances
I enjoy your content Rory but this is a horrible take. He courts controversy and always has, even as a player. There's a reason Liverpool never went for him. Mourinho is his idol and his tantrums are straight out've that playbook. At least Mourinho was once a good manager who protected players. Throwing them under the bus like this is latter day Mourinho. Ruben does not care one iota and wants sacking and paid off right now. He's a joke and is trying to protect himself. Terrible management and even worse that that, the actions of a cowardly individual with no confidence in his own ability. I wouldn't feel sorry for him Rory. A brief read of his wikipedia page will tell you the kind of character he is.
In general, I think football fans & pundits give managers too much credit and too much blame. The truth is that players determine the outcome on the pitch. If you don't have good enough players or your good players are injured... You are going to struggle! Simple as.
I've been a fan of United for 60 years. I agree with you 💯 %. The vast majority of the players are not good enough to play for United. Or for any other team in Premier league. I'd go so far as to say that they aren't good enough for the 2nd tier. I also feel sorry for Amorim.
Honestly as a lifelong United fan I’ve never felt so emotionally disconnected from the squad. I’d probably sell the entire team bar Amad, Bruno and Yoro and start again. It’s mental how we do the same thing week in week out expect a completely different result
That scene in braveheart where William Wallace pulls the mask off to find its Robert the Bruce is like a United fan pulling off Joel glazer mask to find its Ratcliffe
How can you feel sorry for him it's his job to pull that squad write a good manager Mas be able work with what he have available he got a squad that cost alot of money he must stop moaning and do what he gets paid for
😂😂 😂😂 winning solves bullshit for real cos how are you 1 in 6 wins in PL just like united and still looking for views. Nasty work Rory
Erik Ten Hag is a poor manager?
You taking the piss? Won 3 league with Ajax and was 15 seconds from a CL final?
The man won 2 trophies in 2 years and NO one gave him a chance.
He also kicked Ronaldo out which needed to happen, dealt with the Mason Greenwood situation admirably, sold players who needed to leave and
also had to be mocked on live television by Alan Shearer in the face of winning the FA Cup. Just the tip of the iceberg.
The platyer AGAIN let him down.
These exact problems hes naming about the playing staff, the ownership are the exact same things ten hag had to deal with. Its almost like United's issues run deeper than the manager
@robbyscott9834 Never a managers fault. they are just the puppet, and Amorim is not playing that game. You can clearly see that. Ten Hags hands were tied at the end, and you can see how he lost his authority toward the end of last season in his interviews.
Ruben did say there will be pain, and is MORE than happy to clean the place down because it stinks.
dont feel bad for him hes a judas that dropped sporting for the money
3:17 Rory, please at some point we need to stop using this "biggest club in the world', maybe once they were in history under Sir Alex.. But currently? What makes them any more different than Everton?
There's a few metrics you could use.
How many trophies
How many fans
How much money they generate yearly
Also all of those things plus the synergy of them/more things.
Now whether they are the highest in the world is up for debate but in all of those things plus more they are more than Everton lol.
I'm not even a man Utd fan but that's obvious
"I feel sorry for Amorim"
I don't he knew the task he was taking on, he was given an ultimatum from the circus know as Manchester united as you can have the job now or never. He should have possibly not accepted the job. Trying to turn a club around in it's current state using a formation which lets face it is pretty much alien to the current players without having a pre season and transfer window was unfeasible. To make the changes he is trying to make mid season is ridiculous he should know that and even the idiots running Utd currently should know that. He might be a decent manager but playing 5-4-1 which let's not kid ourselves that is pretty much what is happening with how deep the team are playing is not what anyone wants to see of a Manchester United team. Stats show no team as won the Premier league playing 5 at the back. Why would you feel sorry for Amorim it was his choice nobody forced him to take job and he's getting paid handsomely. It's the supporters who you should be feeling sorry for.
Chelsea 16-17 with Conte won it with 3 or 5 at the back call it however you want
Why, just why, can't United have a real transitional period? This season is a write off, we're still in cups but its a few games out of the season, the league is pointless. Id rather accept the losing this season, than see Amorim revert to a 4-2-3-1 relying on individual moments which is what these players want and have only wanted for years. Why does Amorim have to change his system for these players? As a United fan, I want the system, I do not want these players at all. Its not like Ten Hag had a style of play or system that looked any better, or was any more successful this season. Amorim's football actually keeps possession, in most games it does play higher up the pitch, and if its done right with the right playing staff it can win titles.
Rory I actually respect all your Manchester United videos. Probably the least biased. Most of United channels get super emotional and it’s a hard watch
lmaoooooo
United make wrong decision to sack ETH . Must sell bruno !
Recruitment has always been their biggest issue, the squad is nowhere near the money they spend on it
That's what happens when time glazers give bankers like Arnold and Woodward control of football recruitment for more than a decade, I wouldn't trust bankers to be in control of my banking let alone recruitment of players at one of the biggest clubs in the world
I'm a Man united fan from Portugal. I know Amorim from the Sporting time. He is brilliant, but he needs the tool to work. He made Sporting a winner after 19 years of disgrace . I believe in him, is not a quieter, but needs good players.
You say about ten harg but it was never this bad and I'm a Liverpool fan and this makes me feel sad that they can only turn up against us I want the competitive united
Who’s this middle class toff ??
The 5 at the back only works when you have technical wing backs that suite the system and right now thats showing. There's a lot more issues than this but I am not for one second saying Amorim needs to ditch the system because if anything he needs to continue the system to prove a point that these players just aren't good enough and gives him justification to get rid of whoever he wants and replace them with players that are capable and more suited to play in this system.
Agree with a lot of your points but the criticism of Hoijland shows a lack of knowledge, there is zero service given to him yet he has one of the best conversion rates in the Pl. Since his signing, he faces the same challenges that also affected other top class strikers such as Ronaldo and Cavani yet receives even more criticism despite him being young and still developing
Amorim is being stubborn . He needs to change the style of football. You can't be stubborn yet a failure at the same time.
No, he needs to implement his system that wins titles. These players have had it too easy, expecting managers to build their team around them, its the same reason United have lived with a 4-2-3-1 for about a decade now, despite having no real success. As a United fan, this season is a write off already, I dont really care if we lose the majority of games until may, as long as Amorim keeps trying this system, finding who fits it and who doesnt. Why would he change his style of football that won titles, topped the champions league path when he was in charge of sporting this season, a system that battered Man City, because these LOSING set of players dont want it. They have to adapt or leave
yeah, good evening. do not be, he brought it upon himself with his ideologies of chopping and changing the formation to suit his style of football. clearly, it is NOT working for manchester united. he definitely needs a different strategy, this is NOT sporting lisbon. this is manchester united, get it. i am just waiting for an update from the board of directors about his performances lately, because he has been appalling. much appreciated, truth be told
We crap ourselves every time they get the ball because we can't handle any sort of pressure which means we can't play out from the back and through midfield which also means anyone who's up front is working the graveyard shift.
I dont feel bad for the manager at all he chose the job, his formation and tactics arent working so he has to fix it, so glad liverpool got Slot instead
Slot is a lucky manager, Jurgen k left slot a fantastic squad, the early fixtures were kind, he has been lucky with injuries compared to rivals and results are going Liverpool way every week
how can you feel sorry for a Manager who clearly doesn't know what he is doing .He cant adapt at all ,its my way or the highway with players that either cant understand or play his style of football . Cant always blame it on the players the manager thought he could come here with his team wave his magic wand and change it all . That ´s on him
ps this squad outplayed City in the cup final and made us all so proud so no excuses about the players blablabæa as manger you have to get the best out of them players by being adaptable . Ask ten hag he tried his system didnt work as it takes many years to make the entire squad your own and to be able to play your system ,It doent go faster by being stubborn and losing most games .Patience is something we United fans dont have and that is the biggest problem .
Of course ownership is garbage and that’s not going to change. Gotta get rid of Bruno & Onana first. Bruno is not a captain. Onana wouldn’t make an MLS squad!
Amorim has basically said what Rangnick said.....look what happened to him
My club is destroying this man in only a couple months. He deserves better. These players are pathetic
We fans first and foremost let our club down,by clapping and chanting for this shit show,it should've been booes instead.
I've been impressed by the support for the players generally, despite this slow slide to mid table. It's not the players' faults they've been bought for huge money and on big wages
@redboyjan they're professional footballers,on huge wages.yet they can't play decent football for 5 minutes. Instead of our support we should push them through other means. Just like Barcelona and real madrid,they won't shy away from whistles and boos if players don't earn their wages.
@Roman.Rêbwar been a long time since the players tried at OT. And still they get paid huge. It's obvious to any player arriving that they'll likely see no success there. Professional millionaires
thats because most of utd fans thought these players was good enough to play the system, which they are clearly not. finally they are starting to see it years later...........
INEOS are the British Glazers. They chose not to hire Amorim in the summer because they said his system doesn’t fit the squad profile they have. 5 months later they bring him in cause he’s the name everyone is talking about and then choose not to back him thinking he can make this work.
It's clearly a mentality issue with United. They dont care about losing to teams like brighton because their standards are so low.
After watching the Liverpool and Arsenal matches, i had the same thought. It is just mentality, good quality players there, but no team.
Sir Jim coming in raising prices, and firing lunch ladies.
As a United fan I agree with ALMOST everything you said. But Hojland is a good striker. Whether he is United quality is yet to be seen, but he has ZERO service. All the best strikers have players feeding them. How often do you see Halland beat 4 men and score a screamer? That’s what we are asking Hojland to do. No one sets him up - almost every goal he has scored for us he has had to set himself up. I feel sorry for him.
Back in 2001 you paid 1% of your money for a ticket . And the game was awesome. Now you pay 20% of your money for sometimes crap VAR or players thinking they Are bigger than Club.
It all really went to the bin when Ronaldo got rattled by Liverpool and kicked Curtis Jones while he was on the ground, what a poor spirit
Hate of Hoilund over stated !!
Amorim is being stubborn, he should prioritize results this season and start his tactics with a new personnel next year
When Ineos met with Amorin he asked he'd preferred to come in the summer & Ineos basically told him it was now or never & now he's here they won't back him with players..🙈
PSR, we cant spend any real money unless we sell
Rory is when spurs lose: Ange is a fraud
Rory when man united lose: Amorim is the best manager in the world
Make it make sense, you clearly have a bias against Aussies but you just don't wanna say it 🥱
That club is rotton to the core and im sorry to say liverpool are brilliant they looked at amorim and new he was a stubborn 3 at back and liverpool new it was a disaster its a specialist system that takes years to get players and work .liverpool identified slot and rest is history . Liverpool honestly dont get much wrong do they
3 at the back is actually great. Doesn't leave any gaps, unlike playing a 433 which is awful.
They have a better team than United with world class players. Let’s see how great they are when their world class players start leaving soon
So, remember when newcastle were at the brink of the drop? What could have eddie howe done? Villa? What could have emery done?
Fans? They were calling Son a wanker after loss to Everton. Fans are fickle, especially in today's age of social media.
I'd say ignore the fans and focus on the game.
2:41 you couldn’t say it better Rhory
Man Utd fans aren't booers?😂😂 Even Fergie & his side got booked in the early days when he was struggling before turning it around & delivering astounding success
Amorim is expected to make chicken salad out of chicken sh!t.
Sell Mainoo, dont pay ridiculous wages for him. Hes not worth more than 50k a week
Why on earth did the glazers and Sir Jim bring in a manager in November knowing he didn't have the players to play his system and then not support him in the January window but then why didn't they sack ten hag in May and get Ruben in pre season and give him the 200 m they gave ten hag
Don’t feel sorry for Amorim. He knew what a mess United is and took the job anyway.
Also, his style doesn’t work with this squad so he should change which he doesn’t
You mean like Ten Hag did? Abandon his way of playing because he didn’t think the squad could handle it.
@ yes. It was bad under EtH but things are even worse now. I believe Amorim is a good manager (as was EtH) but they should have hired Big Sam instead
Things have been going Southwards for Man U for a long time now. From head to toe they are “off”.
If you keep five players that you think are the best, then have an excellent transfer window, those five players will be next out the door.
there's no point continuing to rehash the mistakes of the past at this point Utd need to accept that they are where they are. Realistically that means the league season is a bit of a write off now, Utd aren't realistically going to be relegated and top half of the table is also a bit of a stretch- they should use the league games as a sort of beta test for the new system. If they can get to even a 50% win rate that would be an improvement. They should then focus on being more practical and pragmatic in the cups and Europa League to try and win or progress as far as possible in those as that's the only realistic chance they have of salvaging something respectable from this season now.
Amorim's win percantage after 15 games is 33.3%. At every other club he managed, it was over 70%. If he doesnt turn things around at Man utd, he has ultimately tarnished his carear which just began
Nah people can see how fucked this club is. He’ll find a good job if he gets sacked or resigns.
To say Ineos are just glaziers is idiotic, the glaziers don't care about the state of their cash cow. Look at the stadium, all the ridiculous signings we're under their neglectful oversight, the ridiculous financial strain previous management led to them selling part to Ineos before bankruptcy occurred.
The biggest mistake they made was not to come in and rip everything up straight away like Chelsea. I personally think this was ironically a cost saving exercise to what could be selvaged.
3:38 give brighton any credit for the win and how well they played nah never
I don't think there's much Amorim can achieve with these players. They've been showing (some of them for nearly a decade) that they can't be consistent, yet every time they make a mistake, their apologists come out en masse to point to the time when they were good for a while. That's not enough and you're spot on. With these archetypes in the squad, there will always be a ceiling. When the squad is littered with them, its an infection that eventually spreads to other players. You see these lads come in, look great then over time, the errors start to creep in. INEOS imo need to make a list of every player that's made a mistake leading to a goal more than twice since they arrived. The same with any forward that's missed a handful of great chances that they've not gone on to redeem in the same game. Once they have that list, punt the lot of them to whatever club will take them cos that's their level.
A fan can accept a defeat - however a lack of effort and being wasteful will not be tolerated...
Not saying anybody did a great job there and amorim does seem to have the right mind but their team does seem better then they perform. I mean you could have a midfield 3 of ugarte, fernandes and mainoo, a defense with de ligt, yoro, dalot, shaw and a front three with rashford, diallo and hojlund with garnacho coming off of the bench. I know it's not the formation they play but that's just some names. That's not a bad team imo. You can say dalot is crap but he's been a portuguese starter for years now, a lot of times ahead of somebody like cancelo which does prove there is some quality there.
The players only get up for single important games such as derbies, knock-offs, trophies and much touted games against bitter rivals. The reward is immediate. But for a regular, weekly fixture, they don't put out their absolute best. It's just another game where there is no immediate reward and regardless if you win or lose, you'll play again next week. The long-term goal of finishing at or near the top of the table seems vague, too hard, too laborious. My take on it anyway.
All due respect. How the hell are you saying Ramsdale is a better keeper than Onana. Im not saying onana is much better but ramsdale has conceded the most goals in the league whereas onana has kept united in quite a few games this season especially against Southampton
As a united fan I don’t feel sorry at all for him. United’s version of Graham Potter at Chelsea
Our players have gotten worse since his arrival. His system is dross and he’s getting away with it.
People thought ETH was bad but Jesus Christ ETH looks like a world beater compared to this man.
If he doesn’t change it soon he’ll be gone.
Have you been in a coma? Why did we lose against Brighton the last 5 games? It's not the system, these players are shit.
@ and yes players are shit but manager is also shit and we now see why Brighton, west ham Liverpool and INEOS all rejected him in the summer 💩
Do Rory ever come to the point? It's just a continuous verbiage - everything is repeated multiple times in slight variations but never ever closes in on something concrete
saying the way jim has acted is the same as the glazers, it still is the glazers rory they own 70%
the downfall of manu" long may it continue" , unfortunately Liverpool couldnt ad too the misery
Off to the championship.. sooner than you think.
If Amorim is ordered to appease Rashford then he'll leave, no doubt about it. He said it, I will not change..
I feel sorry for Amorim too. The players are a bit like the club, famous and wealthy but crap. Amorim desperately needs some pace on the flanks.
He should never have come mid-season, I bet he regrets that now.
SPOT ON RORY - Ratcliffe is destroying the last vestiges of our once great club! The whole thing is a nightmare
At least it was Brighton and not Everton 🤣⛳
Fans don't understand Jack!
They keep making excuses for Mainoo. They never ask why Ugarte is failing? Oh, play Kobbie 10 6 12 13 just to accommodate a non athletic player. Premiership is a different monster.