I like You working without gloves. So many use latex gloves or even heaver to protect their hands. You can't feel without bare finger and hands, you do it correct Sir. Carry on
That Rupp looks 99.9% identical to a 2005 jincheng jc90 dax I've just acquired that was never registered with just 2.9 kilometres on the clock all done riding around the guys front room in his house! 😄
Enjoyed the video... I am thinking about trying to find a ct70 around here in Mississippi seems like there should be tons around still or in a barn somewhere... I can remember 3 or 4 folks having them back in the 70's... I know one guy now that has 2.. one is almost mint...who knows what he would want for it.... I used to have a late 70's Honda XL 125 and traded it for a hang glider back 81.... glider would be worth but about $300 or less today and the bike would be worth $2k or $3k at least now.... lol
From previous discussions with clone owners we came to the conclusion that there are possibly only one or two Chinese companies making these copies. However, like the Ice bear etc, if you order enough units from them, say 200+ bikes, they will put whatever name on the decals that you want. Hence over the years there being so many different make models out there, that are the same basic bike. Handy for parts interchangeability.
That’s not a Rupp. It’s a very cheap China clone of the Honda Ct 70. Mickey Rupp has literally sued for people putting the Rupp name on a non-Rupp product.
If the weather is nice I may ride down and visit and check out the cars, I did not register for the car show and don't know if I will bother with that..😎
The Rupp has the identical seat on it that my 2007 Lifan had, the same two tone colour. Also my Lifan had a sounder built into the flasher unit, to help remind you that the indicators are on. It kind of sounded like a damp fart.
@@lonniecurtis3540 If I’m selling a bike, I make a video and post it For Sale on my RUclips channel. I don’t currently have anything available, but keep an eye on the channel for future sales.
It floated around between two or three guys in my neighborhood for a couple years, then I eventually bought it. It was a great little bike. I sold it to a subscriber in Kentucky. In my opinion, all the clones are pretty good bikes. Just like name brand bikes, they sometimes need a little dialing in to fit you and your riding style, but I would never shy away from buying a clone. The only reason to not purchase a clone is if you’re worried about resell value. Unlike the original Honda’s, the clones do not hold or increase in value over time.
My dad sold Rupps in the early seventies, I remember them looking more like a trail fifty with a two-stroke engine. I had a Yamaha 60 at the time. I would like to see a video that talks about the stock air filter housing assembly. it looks like it could be installed on an ice bear. is the Honda air box a better idea?
Really appreciate your videos. I'm working on bringing back a 74 ST90. In your experience, is there a better model of the CT70 clones. Looking for one for my wife .SUBSCRIBED
@@PacRat69 Thanks for watching/subscribing. I’d say all the clones are about the same. I’ve owned about every model of CT70 clone and can’t say one is better than the others.
RUPP were a few dollars cheaper than a Honda CT70. The new Honda mini motos have electric start. I heard Honda is coming out with a Honda Dax ST125. I’ll buy one because I had foot surgery and doubt I can kick start.
That looks nothing like a Rupp mini bike I ever seen. I had a 1971 Rupp Roadster 2 when I was kid. Rupp mostly had lawn mower type engines with torque converter drive to chain drive.
@@MiniBikeMike I did research on this bike. Conflicting stories of this bike being contracted by Honda then pull the plug on the project because they didn’t meet Honda standards. Another story is the run was cancelled because the Rupp family rise came of the use of their name. Anyway there was only one run of these and are rare.
The Honda connection was fabricated by someone who didn’t know the story. Production was stopped after two model years. Their use of the Rupp logo and name was unauthorized. Mickey Rupp sued, won and production ended. Rare? I’ve seen a few around my area, I wouldn’t call them rare.
Mike do you happen to know where i could get a starting shaft for a 1963 Honda trail L100 50cc engine i know you don't work on them just thought you might know enjoyed your video alot. preston
Mickey Rupp is still alive. I have his email if you want to ask him about it. But it has nothing to do with Rupp Ind. I believe they were sued for using the name Rupp on it.
@@MiniBikeMike He’s a very nice man. Doesn’t really care about the legacy he left with the whole mini bike thing. He did so many other things this is just a small blip on the screen for him.
I enjoy your videos and learn a lot about the Trail 70 bikes but I think you might get in too big of a hurry when you're doing some things like the speedometer for instance. Personally if I were going to get that far into fixing something and rob parts from a different piece to fix the part you're trying to get right I'd have vacuumed the loose dust and broken plastic chips or whatever got in there since the lens had been broken for who knows how long and cleaned the speedometer real good and then the replacement lens and seals, bezel etc because it'll probably not get dirty again for a long time now that it's fixed and somewhat sealed. That's half a**ing it to me. And the carburetor, why stop at just cleaning the jets? You know if the jets and the fuel bowl looks like that the rest of the carb probably does too, the needle and seat probably need cleaned and all the tiny ports inside. A piece of dirt or sand is going to get stuck much easier in a carburetor that has a lot of sticky gunk in it before it'll get stuck in a smooth, squeaky clean one. If I get into a carb that far the whole thing gets cleaned not just a couple pieces. That's just preventative maintenance and I haven't seen you do much of that, at least so far after a couple videos. The last video you put a 140cc Chinese engine in and disconnected the rear brake lever and didn't clean or lubricate the pivot point before slapping it back on. Things like that will work much smoother and quieter and last longer if you take some time and lubricate it from time to time. And I'm guilty myself of not maintaining every mechanical piece of equipment I have like I should but if I'm already working on a part that requires periodic maintenance and cleaning and or lubing I'm for sure going to do it while I'm working on it and it's already apart.
That’s what is so great about this hobby…..so many different levels, that everyone from the Honda purists to the guys, like me, that just half ass everything. My channel is definitely NOT a “how-to” channel. The stuff I post is for entertainment only. If someone does pick something up along the way, that’s awesome, but not what I’m shooting for. If you’ve watched the channel for a while, you’ve probably picked up that I don’t a seconds worth of thought toward originality or aesthetics or value. Get it working, with the minimal amount of effort as possible, ride it and have fun with it. 👍🏻
in the 70's. Rupp was to Honda as the Chinese knock-offs are to Honda today... only worse... Never knew they did clones too; Most of them were pure garbage. This would have been a flagship for them. Odd that somebody would want to revive a brand name that was never good lol.
In the 70’s, no one compared any bikes to others. There was no social media for riders to voice their opinions. I was around during that time, you rode whatever you could find and loved every minute of it. Honda wasn’t considered any better than anything else, back then. Having owned a few hundred Hondas and over 50 clones of Hondas…..I don’t see any difference. The clones are as reliable as any Honda I’ve owned.
@@coryjones9573 Yep. This bike was built by Rupp Incorporated, a company that tried to prosper off of Rupp Industries name. They had bikes produced in 2002 and 2003, before Mickey Rupp won a lawsuit against them. Technically, it is a Rupp, just not the same Rupp company that we think of when talking about minibikes.
You Don't Know Your Minibikes and or Mini Cycles. Just Because It Has A RUPP DECAL AND SAYS RUPP ON SEAT ITS NOT A RUPP. CHINESE COPY OF HONDA TRAIL 90 USING THEIR NAME PROBABLY ILLEGAL. RUPP Been out of business since the 70's Due To Mini Cycles By The Japanese Mfg. Like Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki and Liability Issues With Minibikes & Karts.
I like You working without gloves. So many use latex gloves or even heaver to protect their hands. You can't feel without bare finger and hands, you do it correct Sir. Carry on
Yeah, I prefer to work barehanded. It makes cleaning up a tad harder, but my wife is used to my dirty hands. 🤣
Seems like your hands would always smell like gas?
They do. Along with a WD-40 smell. 🤣🤣
That Rupp looks 99.9% identical to a 2005 jincheng jc90 dax I've just acquired that was never registered with just 2.9 kilometres on the clock all done riding around the guys front room in his house! 😄
Enjoyed the video... I am thinking about trying to find a ct70 around here in Mississippi seems like there should be tons around still or in a barn somewhere... I can remember 3 or 4 folks having them back in the 70's... I know one guy now that has 2.. one is almost mint...who knows what he would want for it.... I used to have a late 70's Honda XL 125 and traded it for a hang glider back 81.... glider would be worth but about $300 or less today and the bike would be worth $2k or $3k at least now.... lol
My brother and I had a Honda CT 70 back in the 70s we rode the wheels off that thing. Lol, good times, love all the ones you have in your shop 👍
Thanks!
Really enjoyed your sharing all the info and your experience with this bike. Long time CT70 enthusiast and collector. Enjoy all your work - Thanks!
Thank you for watching!
Very cool of you to offer an invite to hang out at your shop. I hope some viewers are able to stop by and see you.
I wish I was in the area, love to see your shop.
From previous discussions with clone owners we came to the conclusion that there are possibly only one or two Chinese companies making these copies. However, like the Ice bear etc, if you order enough units from them, say 200+ bikes, they will put whatever name on the decals that you want. Hence over the years there being so many different make models out there, that are the same basic bike. Handy for parts interchangeability.
That’s not a Rupp. It’s a very cheap China clone of the Honda Ct 70.
Mickey Rupp has literally sued for people putting the Rupp name on a non-Rupp product.
It’s a Rupp Industries bike, not Rupp Incorporated. If you google the bike, you’ll learn the story behind it.
If the weather is nice I may ride down and visit and check out the cars, I did not register for the car show and don't know if I will bother with that..😎
The Rupp has the identical seat on it that my 2007 Lifan had, the same two tone colour. Also my Lifan had a sounder built into the flasher unit, to help remind you that the indicators are on. It kind of sounded like a damp fart.
Nice little pickup.
do you sell any ct70 rollers.good video.that looked like a ct70 swing arm to..
@@lonniecurtis3540 If I’m selling a bike, I make a video and post it For Sale on my RUclips channel. I don’t currently have anything available, but keep an eye on the channel for future sales.
Nice score!
Question, were did you get that rupp and what are your thoughts between the rupp, icebare and amigo, thanks and you are awesome 👍
It floated around between two or three guys in my neighborhood for a couple years, then I eventually bought it. It was a great little bike. I sold it to a subscriber in Kentucky.
In my opinion, all the clones are pretty good bikes. Just like name brand bikes, they sometimes need a little dialing in to fit you and your riding style, but I would never shy away from buying a clone. The only reason to not purchase a clone is if you’re worried about resell value. Unlike the original Honda’s, the clones do not hold or increase in value over time.
I wish I could buy that bike❤
The current owner has it for sale. @sgsl70
My dad sold Rupps in the early seventies, I remember them looking more like a trail fifty with a two-stroke engine. I had a Yamaha 60 at the time. I would like to see a video that talks about the stock air filter housing assembly. it looks like it could be installed on an ice bear. is the Honda air box a better idea?
The first mini bike that I rode was Rupp in the mid 60s, sir it was a pull start
Really appreciate your videos. I'm working on bringing back a 74 ST90. In your experience, is there a better model of the CT70 clones. Looking for one for my wife .SUBSCRIBED
@@PacRat69 Thanks for watching/subscribing. I’d say all the clones are about the same. I’ve owned about every model of CT70 clone and can’t say one is better than the others.
@@MiniBikeMike Thanks. just found a running Honda CT70 in poor shape so going that route
RUPP were a few dollars cheaper than a Honda CT70. The new Honda mini motos have electric start. I heard Honda is coming out with a Honda Dax ST125. I’ll buy one because I had foot surgery and doubt I can kick start.
The ST125 is ridiculously over priced. You can pick up 3 brand new Icebear Champions for the price of one ST125.
Nice show
Why do you think they changed the design on the newer models to prevent you from opening up the carburetor? Doesn't seem to make sense.
I’m only guessing, but it probably has to do with states that check emissions.
That looks nothing like a Rupp mini bike I ever seen. I had a 1971 Rupp Roadster 2 when I was kid. Rupp mostly had lawn mower type engines with torque converter drive to chain drive.
If you watch the video, it explains why it looks different from the pull start Rupps.
@@MiniBikeMike I did research on this bike. Conflicting stories of this bike being contracted by Honda then pull the plug on the project because they didn’t meet Honda standards. Another story is the run was cancelled because the Rupp family rise came of the use of their name. Anyway there was only one run of these and are rare.
The Honda connection was fabricated by someone who didn’t know the story. Production was stopped after two model years. Their use of the Rupp logo and name was unauthorized. Mickey Rupp sued, won and production ended. Rare? I’ve seen a few around my area, I wouldn’t call them rare.
Mike do you happen to know where i could get a starting shaft for a 1963 Honda trail L100 50cc engine i know you don't work on them just thought you might know enjoyed your video alot. preston
Unfortunately, no. Are the engines similar to a z50, any chance one of those would work?
Nice little bike. Never seen one before. Do you think the gold swing arm is stock? Anyway love the video and looking forward to the next. 👍👍
No, someone has replaced with a Honda CT70K0 swingarm.
I have A72 hustler rupp
Lifan is the motor manufacturer not the bike manufacturer
Bike was manufactured by Lifan. Lifan sells many bikes that get branded as others. Tag on head tube states it was mfg by Lifan.
Zero affiliation with Rupp…
Mickey Rupp is still alive. I have his email if you want to ask him about it. But it has nothing to do with Rupp Ind. I believe they were sued for using the name Rupp on it.
@@idiot-proofgarage3739 Thanks, but I wouldn’t bother him with something that happened 20 years ago. I don’t really need to know that bad.
@@MiniBikeMike He’s a very nice man. Doesn’t really care about the legacy he left with the whole mini bike thing. He did so many other things this is just a small blip on the screen for him.
I enjoy your videos and learn a lot about the Trail 70 bikes but I think you might get in too big of a hurry when you're doing some things like the speedometer for instance. Personally if I were going to get that far into fixing something and rob parts from a different piece to fix the part you're trying to get right I'd have vacuumed the loose dust and broken plastic chips or whatever got in there since the lens had been broken for who knows how long and cleaned the speedometer real good and then the replacement lens and seals, bezel etc because it'll probably not get dirty again for a long time now that it's fixed and somewhat sealed. That's half a**ing it to me. And the carburetor, why stop at just cleaning the jets? You know if the jets and the fuel bowl looks like that the rest of the carb probably does too, the needle and seat probably need cleaned and all the tiny ports inside. A piece of dirt or sand is going to get stuck much easier in a carburetor that has a lot of sticky gunk in it before it'll get stuck in a smooth, squeaky clean one. If I get into a carb that far the whole thing gets cleaned not just a couple pieces. That's just preventative maintenance and I haven't seen you do much of that, at least so far after a couple videos. The last video you put a 140cc Chinese engine in and disconnected the rear brake lever and didn't clean or lubricate the pivot point before slapping it back on. Things like that will work much smoother and quieter and last longer if you take some time and lubricate it from time to time. And I'm guilty myself of not maintaining every mechanical piece of equipment I have like I should but if I'm already working on a part that requires periodic maintenance and cleaning and or lubing I'm for sure going to do it while I'm working on it and it's already apart.
That’s what is so great about this hobby…..so many different levels, that everyone from the Honda purists to the guys, like me, that just half ass everything. My channel is definitely NOT a “how-to” channel. The stuff I post is for entertainment only. If someone does pick something up along the way, that’s awesome, but not what I’m shooting for. If you’ve watched the channel for a while, you’ve probably picked up that I don’t a seconds worth of thought toward originality or aesthetics or value. Get it working, with the minimal amount of effort as possible, ride it and have fun with it. 👍🏻
@MiniBikeMike I've only watched two or three videos so far but will check out more.
@@bodeine454 I appreciate you’ve taken the time to watch. Thanks.
@@MiniBikeMike Thank you 👍
what is the best C70 clone?
Best I can tell, they’re all about the same. Icebear Champion seems to have the lowest price.
in the 70's. Rupp was to Honda as the Chinese knock-offs are to Honda today... only worse... Never knew they did clones too; Most of them were pure garbage. This would have been a flagship for them. Odd that somebody would want to revive a brand name that was never good lol.
In the 70’s, no one compared any bikes to others. There was no social media for riders to voice their opinions. I was around during that time, you rode whatever you could find and loved every minute of it. Honda wasn’t considered any better than anything else, back then. Having owned a few hundred Hondas and over 50 clones of Hondas…..I don’t see any difference. The clones are as reliable as any Honda I’ve owned.
It's a clone.rupp never made a bike like that
It’s a really interesting story, you might google it.
@@MiniBikeMike I did Google it.rupp went out of business in 1978.that bike is a Chinese clone made in 2003.they got sued for using rupps name on it.
@@coryjones9573 Yep. This bike was built by Rupp Incorporated, a company that tried to prosper off of Rupp Industries name. They had bikes produced in 2002 and 2003, before Mickey Rupp won a lawsuit against them. Technically, it is a Rupp, just not the same Rupp company that we think of when talking about minibikes.
@@MiniBikeMike right -Rupp was from Mansfield -Ohio
You Don't Know Your Minibikes and or Mini Cycles. Just Because It Has
A RUPP DECAL AND SAYS RUPP ON SEAT ITS NOT A RUPP. CHINESE COPY OF HONDA TRAIL 90 USING THEIR NAME PROBABLY
ILLEGAL. RUPP Been out of business since the 70's Due To Mini Cycles By The Japanese Mfg.
Like Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki and Liability Issues With Minibikes & Karts.
🤣🤣🤣🤣Did you even watch the video?🤣🤣🤣🤣