Romania’s Post-Communist Party Paradise | Big Night Out
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Ever since Romania overthrew the Ceaușescu regime in 1989, the southeastern European country has become a partying hotspot. In 2016, Clive Martin headed there to investigate two party scenes for VICE TV UK’s Big Night Out series.
Both were centred around beaches on the Black Sea but were founded on contradicting values. At the first, a hippy retreat turned party town called Vama Veche, he explores the roots of a tradition involving listening to Bolero music whilst watching the sunrise at 6AM.
At the second, an Ibiza-inspired shufflefest called Mamaia Beach, he is flanked by PR staff forcefully extolling the virtues of commercial clubbing in Romania. Despite occupying alternate slices of the partying ecosystem, they’re both a product of the new-found freedom created by the post-communist era.
Right now the party animals are making the most of it, but will it eventually come at a cost?
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They overthrew their government and started a party.nice
Wrong. The party was already there, the government interrupted it so we had no choice but overthrow it ;)
Coming from switzerland i went to Vama Veche 7 years ago, best parties and best people ever! Made a lot of friends i'm still in contact with. Went again 2 years ago and will come back soon! Love you romania from switzerland
We love you too!
👍👍👍!!!
As a genuine Romanian, i was actually impressed with the quality of this video. It really captures the spirit of the Black Sea beach, and it’s two most important poles. Superficially maybe, but to go deeper, well... you really had to be there.
That's not water....it's holy "purified" water :))) :D, at least 40-50 degree of alchol in it :D
There's some subtext to this whole story with Ovidiu that the documentary misses. Ovidiu and his generation were born into an opressive, authoritarian regime. The State would micromanage every aspect of your life and take all decisions for you. The State would decide what clothes you can wear, how long you can wear your hair, what music you can listen to, what thoughts you can have and what words you can say. The secret police had a disproportionate amount of power and no accountability in enforcing what the State and the Party decided. The documented instances of torture in political prisons and slave labor camps is stuff that will make your skin crawl.
The people partying in Mamaia are the nouveau rich, some of them descendants of Communist Party members that were able to hold onto power and wash their hands during the transition to a capitalist society. A transition which was definitely not smooth and marred by violence for years after the revolution. These people are the descendants of morally bankrupt psychopaths that have always looked out for their own interests and nothing else. And the reason why progress in the country has come so painfully slow in the past 30 years.
All of this to say that 20:45 is an incredibly bad take. Equating communism with the current liberal capitalist society is idiotic. Ovidiu and his generation were going to Vama Veche because it was one of the only options to get away from an opressive regime. The people going to Vama Veche now are going there by choice, they have the freedom to go anywhere in the world and they're choosing VV. There's a big difference there.
No....THIS is a bad take. The fact that you can watch this whole video and NOT see the differences in the two cultures being inherent to both the state AND CAPITALISM is disheartening tbh.
@@c.kottman7843 it's not about capitalism my guy, it's about freedom. The lack of it during communism and the presence of it today. This is what the Vice crew doesn't understand, because they are coming from a culture where freedom is given by default. It's like me explaining to a fish what water is.
*Really ? Post -comunist ? After 30 years what the hell is the relevance of this title and video ?*
oh because it will probably take Romania lot longer than our lifetimes to really move on and stop fitting so well to the "post-communist country" description
it became the party paradise after the fall of communism so no the title is totally relevant.
@@qscoobydoo7799 clearly you are completely clueless
I think it's because a lot of people still picture Romania as a grim or impoverished country struggling to pull itself up from it's communist legacy. A bit like what you see with neighbouring countries like Moldova. So the title is saying, 'hey this isn't the case anymore' as progress is happening, though there is still a lot of poverty and political corruption in Romania. Alongside the wealth and modern construction.
@@BVargas78 post-communism can reffer to a lot more than just economy or politics, collective consciousness is one big thing you can take into a count when discussing about a country's past and focusing on that I would say communism doesn't appear to be that far away (maybe just for me)
Strange how the presenter compares it to places and moments in time he has obviously never been too or experienced
history is written...
@@JamilaS84 Romanians have a "bloody history" :))
Ovidiu. This photo was taken by me in 2004. He was making us vodka and apple juice with limes. We didn't want that, but he made it for us anyway.
I'm not going to lie I would like to experience this myself
I've been there many times and it's nothing special in my opinion.
well come by
@@theodor12 your opinion doesn't make it his opinion,he has to experience it himself.
You will not be disappointed.
Romania must become the place where every single non-extremist ideology has it's own sanctuary.
@české pivo Some did an become communists.
@české pivo No, He met his fate cuz he was a total sociopath that nobody was willing to fight along him.
This video feels like a 90's documentary. The music, the voice-over, the mentioning of communist regime at the start of the video
....the camp fire was not put out by any type of police...the club that is in charge of it simply sends an employee to put it out when it’s mostly burned off *i’m from Constanta, Romania, very close to this place*
damn i came to canada when i was 6 w the fam and ive never partied this hard here... country roads take me home? lol
Born and raised on ‘’epava” in Vama Veche, wherever I am the people and that place will forever be in my heart.
The guy who said he spent 100k euros has probably never seen 1k in his bank account lol
I couldn't bear a night in mamaia, not one single real smiley, only people faking they're having fun. I've been in constanta for 1 week and I've spent the whole siting there in vama, dancing in molotov, playing guitar with random people and smoking weed 24/7
watched this hoping for some rominimal 20.17, i am still waiting .. gutted
Im glad I always preferred the mountains and lakes near me ... I tend to dislike both hipsters and snobs. These are not representative for the general population btw.
you have a coat of arms profile picture, i think you fit into the second category pretty well
@@carb_8781 Maybe stop watching Vice "child" , it will eventually scramble your brains. What a pointless and senseless comment. I watched your channel there because I instantly knew who would make a senseless comment like that, Im well informed you see, I just dont know how this happen to someone in Romania.. you live outside the borders, or did you do this to yourself online?
you're really commenting on videos from 2017? how on earth are they relevant. you're the definition of a snob. "well informed" my ass
@@L2Xenta do what exactly to myself? draw?
people like you make me sick to my stomach. learn english before judging teenagers for simply existing on the internet
maybe my original reply was stupid, but i don't think it warranted that reply.
i just tend to hate "patriots" and nationalists. if you can't see why for yourself, i'll just skip this conversation and stop replying. i have better things to do. like fucking draw without being mocked
Fun video tho' Shows the positive side. It is everyday like that in the summer, fun and relaxed atmosphere. I mean... I come there, have fun one-two nights and I go home. But there are thousands doing the same, everyday. That place is breathing, it is alive. It is hard to reunite one mentality(not mainstream) which is dispersed. If you organize something to put them into one place it would not work. That place, only with it's legacy did it.
This is my home! Proud to claim that!
what is like to live there? what do you do for a living?
@@Dtchmastrkilla7 few people live there, it's just a village on the border. People that own property get money from turism, others have businesses, but most people come there only in the summer.
Was here in 2011 after I graduated and was free of all worries. Had no plan, no destination, just took the train from west to east and ended up here. First night all my stuff got stolen except my passport and credit card. Never saw anything back, of course. There was a police investigation, which in itself was an adventure.
I couldn't care less and stayed there for few more days, sleeping on the beach. Met the most amazing people, some foreigners but mostly Romanian. The nights with plastic bottles of beer, on the beach, dancing around the wooden boats and seeing the sun rise from the sea, are some of my most memorable. Not only because of this place, but what it represented in my life and the people and inspiration I got from it.
this is the coolest place in Romania . romanian here 🇹🇩
"A stock market trading floor with a smoke machine" haha
4:06 is too funny
Party All Night
Hahaha came to the comments just for this
hahahah what's with that rave music at the begining of the video? hahahah, that's not true at all, there is no clubbing in vama, not that kind at least, it's all folk, rock and other alternative radio hits. Vama veche is not that great :))
there is molotov ,but yeah they play mostly minimal ,tech house,house not that psy trance or whatever that music is
Exactly. And in most places they play the same "oldies" songs every day. Mostly commercial, not underground
Why does vice always look for the hippiest stories.
Used to over 15 years ago, was there last 10 years ago and it was a bulevard. Won't go back there.
A ales bine Ovidiu.
Good video but the presenter was too ignorant and superficial.
I'm from Romania and I didn't know about that ritual in Vama Veche. Vama Veche is too crowded and noisy. Mamaia is full of fake people and the beach is too large now. I don't like them.
I prefer the wild beaches more. I hate crowded beaches and noise. You go to a beach to relax. You don't go to a beach to have many people around you and hear annoying music all day long.
U deserve more subs lol (Im romanian btw)
that man saw it was becoming to much "mainstream" "party" and went search peace in forest. and ofc i didnt even had to listen the moment he talks.. the other guy said "idealist" you can have a good notion there
It was not for "money " it was the word of that place that made people go there.. if there was no "internet" and such as, there would be very little people knowing about vama veche
Missed these
boabe la vamă bro
Loved every second of this Video. Great job!
Nobody comes to Vama Veche to “oppose capitalism”. Stop trying to politicize everything for Christ sake! Everybody just comes to have a great time in a more hippie way than in Mamaia, though the prices for hotel rooms are generally the same.
Now, this is FUN and FREEDOM
I want to go here.
Mamaia and Vama veche was like 1st class and 3rd class on Titanic
so its like the san fracisco of Romania?
people rarely party on the beach in san francisco... it is too cold and windy
not at all
nope. SF does not party.
In real life san Francisco dosent really party, but like the stereotype of San Francisco is brought to life in this place
more like LA
god i hate this comment section
i like reporter without several teeth ))
Noisey, we want the name of the first track!!!!
Julia Goldy
If you only knew how vama veche and mamaia were really made to what they are today.... you would change your opinion
please share what you know
@@AlexM-of6hq corruption, bribes, mafias, policians, foreign ambassadors
@@2romanian4you20 ok chill nobody cares
@@2romanian4you20 not true at all, but keep living a lie I guess.
8:45 the song is ruclips.net/video/aeq4HoVNAAo/видео.html
You’re welcome
That looks like the place for me.
@Oh Canada Gonna tell me of a few or....? I prefer places where few people speak English.
I saw yall there LOLOL
Hey what's the last track, at min 19, pleaseee
4:07 we will se them at bendeac
I remember this young interviewer we seem to have grown up since old videos years back, we are both more realistic now, less drugs more understanding and cynicism ahah.
New video of me skating with some new homes on my channel
Vama Veche and Mamaia, and nothing in between...
Yeah, it's the pink-haired activists vs plastic bimbos contest - skip them both. There are plenty of wild beaches in Romania.
lol, love the sexism.
sounds awful lol.
love Clive's docs 🖤
What is the the first music track?
Such an awesome video, i've absolutely loved it!
Hey Guys..I this Party end August to mid September too? I want go there for the first time:)
It`s non-stop party everyday, until the summer ends. No official closing time: if it`s warm, it`s party! ;)
tacky
🥰Vama Veche🥰
100k EUR for a table? Wtf.Why? 😂
One hundred it's 100 yo not one hundred thousand 100 000/100k lol
It's "customary" to wash some dirty money between 2 lines of the exquisite colombian "snow"...
@@fashioncat333 haha right, 100k is ridiculous to even think about.
@@AlexM-of6hq its the romanian ego , those big amounts are real ..and they spend it just like they saw in saint tropez. but in a fun romanian way
Bolero... Interesting.
Mamaia +++++
Dimi, minutul 19, nu uita
I'm from.romania
Second
Mamaia city of the ultra cocalar
Hippies...
sunset in vama veche .... 🤣🤣🤣
I can not recognize my old country...ewww...
CHill this is only the hippy vama veche lol.
Better living undet communism than capatalist
Not with that spelling/grammer it ain't...
@@PRTZN LMAO
Nah
Hell no!
wtf are u talking about? Why don't you move to North Korea then?
Transylvania is really a Hungarian province in Romania.
No, it's a Romanian province that has a Hungarian-Romanian community.
Hungarians are a minority in Transilvania . Romanians are majority there.
U tried to stole us transylvanians from our brothers and sisters, but togheter we won , *YOU ARE JUST A MINORITY* and those hungarians are no more just huns they are -Romanian-Hungarians just like every one else here
That says everything about your intelligence 🤦♀️😂🔫 😏🇷🇴💓🇭🇺
Transylvania never was and it will never be a part of Hungary. Are there a hungarian minority? Yes Was the province controlled in the past by hungarians? Yes.
So was with the other provinces in Romania for example the south was mainly under Otoman control but that doesn t mean Turkey has the right to claim that land XD.