Karens & Cancel Culture w/Chelsea Handler - Uncomfortable Conversations with a Black Man Ep.10
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- Опубликовано: 5 июн 2024
- Emmanuel Acho sits down with comedian & best selling author, Chelsea Handler, to have an uncomfortable conversation about "Karens," cancel culture and her own white privilege.
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“Being A product of your culture is not your fault but not examining it as you get older is your fault.”
That one hit like a frickin dumptruck
That was SO on point.
Amen to that 💃🙌
For real for real
So true
I’m a black woman who grew up in the deep south and one of the best things my mother did for me growing up was that she went out of her way to find people of other cultures, ages and backgrounds for my family to associate with. That gave me an appreciation for other people and our differences and similarities. The best ways to end discrimination of any kind is to stop yourself from seeing the people around you as a race or group FIRST and see them as individual persons and names and experiences. And that goes for people of color as well as white people. The very woman who went out of her way to expose me to people of other races can sometimes get caught up in the air of division and say things like “those white people” or “the Mexicans” or “rich people” or “ghetto people” and I have to call her on it BECAUSE she didn’t raise me to see people as a group or their circumstances but as individuals. It doesn’t happen very often but when I do have to correct her she is always grateful that some one keeps her from forgetting that we are all individuals first, humans second, and our differences last
Black people don't have a issue with "diversity" black people have issues as victims of white supremacy.
@@StillLearnin4332 True. Remember White Flight?
Amen! I had a similar experience. Thank God for good parents who taught us better even when they came from a less “woke” society. That shows a good heart and that’s where we all can start.
I love your comment, I rarely see comments with this message. I am white and had had friends of all colors growing up because we never discussed people by the color of their skin at my house. It is what still bothers me today is this obsession with color even by the minorities. I have latin people from different regions in my family by marriage and grew up with it. Today we are seeing people self segregate in my opinion. I see more and more in social media that people are so obsessed with identifying by their "culture" or color. I am fine with you having a culture, some of that culture though can be what is harming you though. I didn't grow up with a heritage and to be honest I think that is the best thing. I don't have this prescribed mentality or group. So many people are so quick to segregate themselves even white people. I am Irish mostly and know people that are like if you are irish you are good with me but if not then....well you have to earn it. That is the mentality I see with others there is this cancerous group mentality. I think the only good way is to not relinquish your upbringing but don't let it define you. Embrace life from all angles. I don't see anything in people beyond what you present to me. If you are white and you are a crackhead racist wife beater. That is who you are because of your character. Same if you are black, mexican, asian. Ironically I have posted this a few times that MLK's words were to be judged by the content of your character not the color of your skin. This is why I think the title needs to remove the "Black Man". He is just a man, his color isn't going to tell me anything about him. I don't know his aspirations, his goals, his likes, dislikes, heritage, nothing can be learned by that distinction. I like the shows but I really do think everyone is misunderstanding the goal and how to get there. We do need to shed these titles and declarations and just converse without including skin color. Just have a conversation not a racial charged one. I love debates and communication on a deep level but these are too preachy to me and white shaming. I hope we have a day that this can be over but my view on how to get there is that we stop self segregating. Being White tells you nothing about my life, my trials, my successes, nothing. It will tell you how sunburnt I can get.
@Dawn Baker see my Playlist called soulwinning demonstration it explains how to receive eternal life with bible verses from the king James authorized 1611 Bible
Emmanuel Acho is one of the best listeners Ive ever seen, hes genuine and Im glad to see hes making it to TV, well deserved
As far as any of us know, anyway.
Agreed
I worked as an investigator for child protection in Australia for nearly a decade. I absolutely increased my interviewing skillset watching Emmanuel Acho in these videos.
I just appreciate her being brave enough to speak up and challenge the thinking of those in her inner circle. Let’s keep going.
I agree with you but to be honest speaking out and not tolerating these things should be the bare minimum. I appreciate her honesty but I think to call it brave gives it more championship mentality than is owed.
"I've seen your books..." lol ...slick way to say you didn't read them
Caught that too -/ he’s a smart man who is not to be underestimated.
Smart lol
Right?!
Well her books are sorta irrelevant here, so he’s off the hook anyway.
I think he was just being honest w/o saying “I didn’t read it but...” I knew exactly what he was saying and I’m sure Chelsea did too. Good observation though.
You should do an episode with a black person who generally disagrees with your positions.
Yeah, I'd love to see an interview with candace owens or the officer tatum!
Yeah but as long it is a person that can make some sense.
Candice Owen would be a very interesting interview
Sorry Candace Owen
@@kellydouglas5720 maybe someone less argumentative
Wow. This Chelsea is NOT the same Chelsea that I remembered. I used to think some of her material was pretty funny and then she became over-abrasive. What a wonderful change in growth, humility and courage to make a change and be a positive model for others. This was a very well done interview. Thank you to both of you!
As far as we know, anyway.
Can I just say, thank you so much for including subtitles consistently in all of your videos in this series so far, allowing them to reach much further, creating much more of an impact.
Thank you Emmanuel and the post-production team for adding closed captions to the video, really helps hearing impaired people like me to follow along without struggling to hear word for word. Love the conservations, I hope this series keeps going for years and years.
You're welcome 🙏 thanks for watching!
@@Cordova2Pro see my Playlist called soulwinning demonstration it explains how to receive eternal life with bible verses from the king James authorized 1611 Bible
Nah it wont last. Hes very biased which shows in this video since he didn't call Chelsea out for her slave owner behavior over 50 cents. So the show is worthless.
Wasn't you,
The volume was really low.
@@Odin31b she said she was hearing impaired lmao it wasn’t the volume
Just wish these were longer. Not enough time to get onto issues. Great job regardless.
Same
multiple episodes totally over an hour. trippin
I think for the purpose of this show - anti-racism 101 - these bite-sized episodes are perfect. What I would like to see is maybe a second channel with deeper dives into more of the 201 level concepts or if that's a bridge too far; a load of links to other videos, books or ideally curated topic playlists in the descriptions.
I totally agree. I could’ve kept listening for another 15 minutes, easily! But, if a15 minute video attracts more viewers to click than a longer one will, perhaps we have to just be happy that this is even being watched! Lol 😊 idk. I just appreciate that my privileged white eyes have been opened! I now realize the ease I had in raising five white children: I never had to worry about how they were going to be profiled or treated every time they walked out of our house. Like you said, great video!
This!
I love what Chelsea said about her sister-in-law and how she tried to open her eyes. Reminded me of what Captain Picard said in this situation. “You can commit no errors and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is called Life.”
That’s assuming Chelsea is enlightened and has knowledge to pass. This woman is truly awful.
Picard was was wise. Wish we had more real people that measured up to great fictional ones.
are we just gonna skip over her saying “for years now ive had to go to sexual harass training” if a man said that that would NOT fly.
That's because she says inappropriate things on her television shows and they made her do it. She was shocked when she had to do it for a woman she thought she was congratulating.
The fact that she'd already been to sexual harassment training multiple times and still thought it was okay to smack someone else's ass (who she didn't even know!) and then was shocked to find out that it wasn't okay just tells you EVERYTHING about her level of entitlement and self-absorption.
@@alyssastclaire can't it just be her ignorance? Why do we have to assume there's intentions and agendas here - you don't know her.
@@extropiantranshuman It’s not ignorance if she’s been through training against it multiple times. She’s been taught better, she just chooses to believe it doesn’t pertain to her. That’s called entitlement.
@@alyssastclaire she needed to go through training again, as what she was taught wasn't enough. The number of classes means nothing if you graduate from college and can't get a job or answer basic questions - see?
This was a deep episode. I appreciate the fact it was raw. I agree with Chelsea that if someone truly and authentically wants to change, we should give them a chance. However, people need to be called out on their errors. This was another great episode.
Definitely agree. A conversation start with a speaker and a listener but the conversations starts at home. If you are taught racism at home or grew up on it, it's hard to change. Stop having those conversation about racism and start having conversation about the love God intends for us to share.
I think that in this episode they mentioned a hugely important point about that safe space between people of the same race having conversations. That’s when it’s the most powerful to call out each other when speaking out of ignorance.
@@keithwilliams2417 I agree that the conversations should start at home. If we can fix racism, hate, etc within your home, it won’t be out there in the world.
That's funny because how you judge is how you will be judged and who's calling you out on your errors
And by the way to people who really don't care about any of us talking on RUclips doesn't do anything for anyone
All of the racist people I have ever seen had one thing in common: They don't have any close friends of whatever race it is that they dislike. The only real solution to racism is to get out of your comfort zone (ideally from a young age) and interact with people who are different from you and what you are used to.
I think that is the most effective way to be "anti-racist". Calling people out on racist ideas or racist speech is kind of useless in my opinion. You don't stop someone from smoking cigarettes by telling them "hey that's bad! It's going to kill you one day!" they already know that. And scientifically its been proven to be ineffective. Instead focus on doing the work of putting yourself and the young people in your life in environments with people who are starkly different from themselves. This is the reason why younger generations are so much more accepting of others and less racist, because we did not grow up in segregated schools how like our parents or grandparents.
@BrownSkin Girl this is gonna sound politically incorrect but idk any other way to say it, someone being racist in thought is fine to me. Like most Americans citizens over 75 will likely die disliking a certain race or thinking a race is inferior to them. As long as they aren’t imposing themselves on others or harming people of the other race then I don’t think it’s worth trying to convince that person otherwise. Someone can not like black people and consider themselves racist but as long as they are not actively harming or disenfranchising black people they are devoid of any crime or anything that actually makes someone else’s life more difficult. We shouldn’t lock up or reprimand people for having racist thoughts or beliefs. We should let them think and believe whatever it is they want and lead by example and show them what kindness and character look like.
So someone being married to someone who is black and still being racist against blacks is possible but we can’t change that persons feelings with laws.
@@ArgusticDunbar Well said. We can't change everyone nor control their internal thoughts. What we can ask for is an outwardly humane way of interacting. Many are known to still outwardly be violent to racially different people WHILE still having different race family members. Association does not equate to belief. Nice explanation. I am a pacifist (proudly raised with Quaker values) and I believe there's a way to expect peace...
I am racist because I have a good reason to be
@@Eman1900O What reason is good to hate every single person of a certain skin color, ethnicity, religion or culture? Not a single personal reason can justify racism. It can explain it, bot not justify it nor even excuse it.
@@jas_bataille Racism doesn't mean you have hate
Chelsea is a real outspoken woman with an opinion and a conscience. She is not always right but she is always willing to ask if she is wrong.
But she admitted that she’s not willing to ask what’s wrong. When she said “she’s overreacting” when she touched another woman’s ass.
@@livymullins5985 yeah but then once she listened to the woman she understood that she was wrong and she learned from it. Don’t leave that part out
She wasn't then, she's learning now. acknowledging that change is important to multiple points she was trying to make.
@@sheridanparker264 Are you black? Chelsea had to be forced to listen so does it mean she actually acted out of her own volition?
@@abeltesfaye_ I’m black and you can be forced to listen but it doesn’t mean you’re gonna receive it still. So good for her for receiving it and changing
I like seeing how Chelsea has arched over the past years. I wish we could see more of this episode. It felt heavily edited to me and seemed to skip around a lot. This show would be very good if it were an hour-long deeper dive conversation with some of the awkward parts potentially left in. Thanks for the amazing work you're doing Emmanuel. You're amazing!
Thank you for your continuous love and support ❤️
I agree. Most of his episodes seem to be overly edited.
“A rising tide floats all boats”, I liked that one too!
Its a very old saying based on capitalism and trickle down economics.
@@jesuschristisgodalmightyyo8455 x can
@@glennwatson3313 you’re wrong actually in this scenario they are trying to trickle up
@@lildel7698 If anything, money trickles up!
A rising tide doesn't float all boats, because most boats are anchored to the bottom. If you work for a company that takes some of the value of _your_ labour as _their_ profit, they are the rising tide and you are the anchored boat.
This seemed like a rather comfortable conversation for the two of them...
It's uncomfortable for blacks to watch ideas that are usually expressed by educated liberal white people.
@@willco601 what do you mean?
@@gabby20316 Put two highly educated white males in those chairs, and the blacks would really feel uncomfortable. It would only take twenty seconds for the blacks to say, "Shut up, white boy."
@@willco601 Wow, sounds like you have a lot to learn. Please keep watching Emmanuel's channel and read his book, "Uncomfortable Conversations with a Black Man"
@@abeltesfaye_ I'll just "never understand", no matter how hard I try to learn. So, why bother?
I wonder if Emmanuel read his own book, after it was completed by his white female liberal ghostwriter.
"People are capable of changing!" We have become a nation that expects everyone to be perfect from birth. Who are we, as a nation now? It is scary.
YEP.
They have to want to. Much of that means getting out of your culture zone. Most people with privilege don't care. Jimmy Carter added white women to the disadvantage groups who could get affirmative action. That was likely a mistake since they benefitted from the success of their husbands and fathers and still had access to wealth. I might be wrong about this but Black women are competing against women who start off with a full advantage.
@@cloverbardot5215 It's a mistake that affirmative action still exists at all, other than in the almost magical scanarios where people have the exact same relevant qualifications - then it can be an idea to hire people based on whatever the underrpresented identity is.
No good change can come from moral narcissist
@@cloverbardot5215 you’re right. You are wrong. Thinking the government is going to fix your problems.
Woooow!! THIS was an excellent conversation! Chelsea is SO REAL! Excellent conversation u guys!
Would be interesting to also bring the conversation to other minority and ethnic groups. How do other people of colour do better to support our black brothers and sisters in the fight for true equality? Love learning through your videos 🙏🏽
Bring in Hasan Minhaj, he did a great talk about how in their culture which has a huge diversity of skin tones, darker ones are still looked down upon.
The experiences of black people strikes a chord in other minority and ethnic groups because we can empathize, we go through similar (Not Same) experiences that a white person never will. We can be allies in the war to end racism since it resonates with other experiences of racism, genocide, colonialism, etc. Prejudice does exist with various communities for a reason - divided we are weak, together we are strong.
And in turn, supporting other minorities in their fight for equality as well. Including the invisible minorities.
#MMIW
@@bluefootedpig I can help to explain why this happens, but not how to change it. The reason many cultures look down on darker skin tones, is that is the skin tone of a laborer. Someone who works in the sun all day, and historically have been the lower rung of many hierarchies. Class structure of cultures have deemed lighter tones to be beautiful because that shows wealth and being able to live indoors, not exposed to the sun. How do we change this ideal of skin tones being more desirable or lesser than? I don't know, maybe someone with more experience can speak to that.
Why should they? West Indian Africans where enslaved and do better in America. Asians and Indians are the most successful races in this country. The problem is the thought someone else should do something for you. This country wasn’t made like that it was made on you to be self reliant and not depend on government to take care of basic responsibilities like saving, family creation and raising, education and income. You have true equality you just don’t realize it. Talk to true white people she’s not she’s a celebrity she has an agenda. A true white people isn’t a celebrity and when there is a discussion it doesn’t become an oppression Olympics.
For some reason hearing him say “I’ve seen your books” instead of “I’ve read your books” just had me cracking tf up 😂
This was an excellent conversation! We are finally opening up and getting real with one another. Thanks Chelsea for being a fantastic model for us.
So many times I’ve heard people say about inappropriate behaviour in the past, “It was acceptable then but it isn’t now because we know better”. But the truth is, it was never acceptable. The victims just never had any power to do anything about it.
I appreciate Chelsea's candor and respect for this conversation. It is so refreshing.
She treats people with different melanin like they’re a different species.
It’s gross.
Vote this way and you can bust her open again
Emmanuel! Thank you so much for another fantastic episode!
"Reckless words pierce like the sword, but the tongue of the wise brings healing." - Proverbs 12:18
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Wasn't she the same person that "had to remind someone he's black" a few days ago??
That white entitlement is hard to shake
That's only because he forgot.
@@xyz0zyx
As well at those that stay the quietest in the face of racism.
It’s embarrassing to watch white women like her pontificate on how “woke” they are. Uh no, you’re still part of the problem.
@@samanthab6642 I'm black/black and I have had friends say similar. I don't see what others say reflect on me, rather how I respond to what they say does. People say this type of shit all the time. When it comes up, you have to decide what to do ... stay silent/ drop as friends/ or educate and give them a chance to learn and grow. I'm not judging you or your friends cause I don't know you, but sometimes, if we listen a bit more closely we hear things we would never expect to hear.
Thank you! I like the platform and I learn something every time.
Wow! What an excellent conversation. This man is on fire. Love his style, his insight, his wisdom and how unassuming and disarming he is in having these very difficult conversations . THIS is what the world needs right now. ✊🏽
Thank you for your continuous love and support ❤️
These are amazing. I watched 1 episode, now I'm on number 4 consecutively. Emmanuel, thank you for being such a gracious, attentive host. Very refreshing
I think an appropriate response to people not accepting an apology should always be, “You’re right and your feelings are valid. You do not have to accept my apology. I will work to be better either way.” Then prove it. If they don’t want to accept you’ve changed and grown, that’s completely on them holding on to anger.
Sad that you think you have to change because of what other people may think of you, maybe you should be yourself and stop worrying what they think or say! Just be yourself if they don't like you that's on them, I'm sick of people being scared and apologising for just being you, a very sad sign of the political times
@@andrewnewton814 i think she is referring to change of an actually problematic behavior, yes we should not apologize about who we are but we all are a product of a certain culture and environment around us and we are quite often brought up with a lot of wrong teachings that shape us throughout our life, we all make mistakes and we all have wrong views about something, no matter is that seeded into us form young age or we did it ourselves, we should by ourselves realize our problematic behavior, pattern or way of thinking and so on, and then find out why is it that we feel or think that way and learn and grow from there, now when it comes to things that are serious like racism, if the one truly wants to changed and they realize what is wrong with them, they shouldn't do that only because they are expecting to be forgiven, because in that case they are not truly wanting to change for the right reasons
@@lanailic4994 what do you think is problematic behaviour and who decides what is or isn't,?
I think apologizing is a good thing, but that’s prolly because of my family. I was always taught that it’s the strongest thing a person can do, and that is isn’t so much an self-condemnation as it is a a voluntary initiation of responsibility. Like, “No matter what happened before, or who did it, I am taking it upon myself to improve this situation.”
@@andrewnewton814 problematic behavior is defined by the people we’ve hurt. I can’t say, “oh my actions didn’t hurt you,” just cause I don’t think they are hurtful. I do think intent matters, but impact shouldn’t be completely thrown out just cause the intent was good.
I think the one if the reasons why we only think of our selves and immediate family is due to an individualistic culture.
For those wondering which book she referenced at 7:55 , it’s Caste: The Origins of Our Discontents by Isabel Wilkerson
Thank you!
This was ABSOLUTELY one of the best and most revealing episodes. I would also love to have seen this as a 30+ minute video, since it's clear that Ms. Handler is very capable and willing to go Much Deeper into this. Terrific Episode
“what about it is sexual harrassment? i’m straight.”
how can someone touch someone so carelessly and inappropriately REGARDLESS of sexuality. it’s a matter of respect for others.
Good thing she was able to come to understand that, after talking with the woman she harassed.
She's a white woman. She had likely never been taught about having to respect people's boundaries and white women have never really been held accountable, hence the Karen epidemic we have now.
I think she might've said that because she thought sexual harrassment implies doing something sexually. Since she is straight, there was no implied sexual feelings/intentions of doing that.
@@GigaBraumChad sexual harrassment is UNWANTED attention or advances REGARDLESS of sexuality, identity, or status.
@@cheydesu241 Yes I know. Hence why I said that’s what she THINKS
I am learning so much by watching this. I have called out a white male colleague on his white male fragility and privilege, and he said if I called him out on it again that he would report me to HR. I am making an effort to make myself less racist. I believe that I was lower on the scale to start because I was taught that people are people no matter the skin color. But I didn't realize just how ingrained certain things were in white culture. Thank you so much for continuing to educate in a way that feels natural and comfortable (even if the topics are uncomfortable).
As a white woman who grew up in Philly and experienced racism as the only white girl. Being beat up, called “cracker” “wigger” “honky”and having to fight my way through school to prove I could fit in. Being hit by police when walking with my black friends because they thought I was plotting with “them”. I would love to start a RUclips channel and reverse the role to help white girls who still struggle now, to find their way and explore how to educate all races on the effects of racism from both sides of the spectrum. I enjoy uncomfortable conversations! Because I firmly believe that these types of conversations MUST be had. I don’t want to be the only white woman invited to the BBQ, I think we should have that BBQ with everyone included, but an understanding has to be had. It’s an embarrassment to myself to see the “Karens” knowing what I had to go through to be me, Kelly.
For anyone wondering the book she mentioned: "Caste" by Isabel Wilkerson
Can't wait! I hope he talks about her racist comments about 50 cent. Everyone else has been ignoring it
he wont address it at all
Be sure to hold your breath.
I think she apologized for that one...
She addressed it on the Daily Show
Erm, them two are good.
I absolutely love this channel!!!
Was so excited to find this channel except you’ve only uploaded 7 interviews in 7 months. There are so many conversations to be had. Hope you upload more conversations soon!
Can we see one about a white person who has never experienced white privilege?
First off excuse yhu. Second yhu have no idea what I was meaning and why I want to see him talk about it. So back off a bit and calm tf down.
Yes white privilege exists and yes it’s a huge fucking problem. And I am inna very confusing predicament here. It’s a very long story but we don’t know about my moms race everyone in our family that would know is dead and we live in poverty so we can’t exactly buy a 23 and me test for her cuz she looks either Hispanic or Native American. And probably a bit of Caucasian and she has white privilege. Now my sister isn’t mixed like me we have different dads and she don’t look white and we also don’t know if she is white or not or has some white in her mix we don’t know. People at school would often come up to her and ask her what her race was and she couldn’t give an answer cuz we have no fucking clue. And due to her strange look she hasn’t experienced white privilege at all people treat her and me the same. And obviously now that you know a little of what I was getting at by commenting that and knowing that I wasn’t exactly meaning a white person not experiencing white privilege
there is no such thing as "white privilege"
don't do drugs and don't commit crimes LMAO, simple
@@Station7Jason there is such thing as white privilege the fact that you sayin their ain’t no such thing suggests you have hella white privilege
Disappointed that Emmanuel didn’t even ask her about the 50 Cent comment.
Maybe this was prerecorded because it just happened last week didn’t it
@@monique7885 I think it was a few weeks before the election.
@@wendystanley9360 yeah, you’re right. All my days and weeks seem to be running together
What did she say ?
@@Coolct that 50 cent shouldnt vote for trump becasue hes black. Its nice of these rich white liberals telling black people who to vote for.
“Being a product of your culture is not always your fault, but not examining that further as you age and grow up is your fault”
Exactly, and that goes for all races of people around the world.
Best one yet! Thank you Chelsea for being real, and Emmanuel for doing something great with your channel.
Thank you for your continuous love and support ❤️
Wow wow. Thank you so much for this interview. I'm sharing this video over and over
I hope Emmanuel will invite Actress Roseanne Barr to an uncomfortable conversation episode.
Yessir Ruth. Love to see what she has to say now!!!!!
Wait what did she do?
@@Damibakare7149 she said the N word
@@Damibakare7149 if I recall, she used apes as a metaphor to describe black people on social media, effectively ending her television career
Omg right
Didn't she feel the need to "remind" 50cent "he was a black person"?
Ok so all is well... gotcha
50 cent has also said some pretty problematic things about his own people, specifically black women. so he probably has no issue with her saying what she said sadly lol
I mean, to be fair, he does need to be reminded that he's black. He's been rich for too long, man is seriously out of touch... Yes, white woman shouldn’t be policing black people in their blackness, but 50 displays a troubling lack of empathy.
@@kingdomhardy9847 Joe Biden is Racist to he wore a Black face back in his day's, so is the Democratic party!! So for Blacks it's like we are voting in our next slave master, but to excuse what she said just because she apologized is asinine she is speaking from a white women's point of view, even if they did have a relationship that still doesn't change the way she thinks and view thing's "she had to remind him that he was Black as if he's stupid and forgot" and was very proud when she said it, she just didn't want the backlash that came with that statement, you notice that it's 2020 when everything and everyone is being revealed like (2020 vision) people are showing who they are!!!
@@kingdomhardy9847 you gave your opinion when you tried to justify what she was trying to say, And by making notice of her apologizing for it on the Breakfast Club means you excused it.
Why don't you have Candice Owens on?
I don't know how this show hasn't been snatched up by a network or streaming service, it's so good and so vital. Keep 'em coming.
Look, I agree with a lot of what is said in this episode. Its good things, and we should encourage it. However, this show should be more than a preaching to the choir. Other episodes have truly been uncomfortable. This felt like a one sided discussion and while I don't think Chelsea is being performative by any means in the scope of this interview, that's the way it comes off due to the nature of the show's premise - uncomfortable conversations. Emmanuel seems a little too quiet in this episode, and while he is meant to guide the questions and provide concise answers for reframing, I don't think his status in this should be reduced to a mere listener, which is what this felt like.
This conversation isn't going to be so uncomfortable because CH has been called out in a lot of spaces. And that's part of the uplift is to more through uncomfortably with Laughter
I agree. Plus I think his mic was literally lower than usual lol. It looks like a lot was edited out of this episode.. For the things Chelsea brought up, there's for sure a lot of potential for further communication and back and forth. This really should've been longer.
I've never been a fan of her, but that doesn't mean I haven't respected how she's been using her white girl privilege. As not a fan of her, I do feel she was pouring it out because this is something she is truly passionate about. She not only publicly admitted she was wrong and WHY, she admitted she was defensive and initially didn't accept it. That's big. For anyone to realize they may be the toxic one. I'm not sure it was intentional to be one sided. I feel she genuinely wants to reach out, albeit her Chelsea Handler way. I just wish Emmanuel did more than twiddle his thumbs lol
The difference to me was - Chelsea is very self aware and comfortable with the convo - she admits her privilege and that white privilege exists - of course I am only 8 mins in so far
i felt no tension at all; it seemed like she was doing some PR for herself
I can agree with this but sometimes it just good to let someone talk out their thoughts. If she were to get out of frame I'd hope he would have the ability to say it.
Is this the same Chelsea handler that reminded 50 cent he was black and couldn't vote a certain way... Gotta love it
You do know she and 50 Cent were together for quite a while some years ago.
@@kenjisparks how would that give her any space tell him how to vote🤔 my aunt and uncle are married and have different political stances
@@kenjisparks your take is so dumb. No one has the right to tell anyone how to vote it back, especially based on their skin color.
It only shows that EMM is biased and his show is worthless now. I watched just because I thought he could make a difference. Guess I was wrong.
@@thedeafgenius Personally I believe the point of the show is for him to be biased. This show is about conversations, and a person comes into a conversation with their own personal beliefs, which applies to both the guest and Emmanuel.
I’d love it you could speak on equity versus equality. That’s such a hard one for people to grasp, and I think you’d do an amazing job explaining it. I love these videos, thank you for doing this. 💚
I always look forward to these!
Isn’t it amazing that this conversation happened and she can reflect on this feedback… thanks to you both for being willing to have the convo and apply the feedback. Chelsea … sis … def note the girl vs woman feedback and stop that shit intentionally. Also definitely keep having the conversation because i really appreciate the willingness to learn and grow and be honest
This explanation of White privilege is so concise and clear. I’m definitely going to refer back to this video when I have people tell me they don’t think it exists. Thank you, Emmanuel!
Thank you for your continuous love and support ❤️
Just discovered your channel and happy I did. 😊 ty
I thoroughly enjoyed this interview. I wish it was longer. Another great episode Emmanuel 👏
Once again, an incredibly authentic and vulnerable conversation. "The rising tide floats all boat."
Yes!!
I want that phrase on a T-shirt with many different images. That was a perfect phrase to explain how everything can work cohesively, instead of all this seperation and hate. I live in MIlwaukee, a VERY segregated city. I am so grateful that the house we purchase 7 months ago is so mixed with cultures from around the world and this country that I GET the opportunity to share in their lives instead of being in that bubble I grew up...a completely white neighborhood that looked at ANYONE black who walked or drove through. It was disgusting! But, I am so happy to be able to be honest and share ideas with all that live around me.
Amen 🙏
She just had to “Remind” “ 5O cent “ that he was black .. I’m supposed to care what she thinks on anything gtfoh
*B,L,M, PROPAGANDA to W' H, I' T, E g- e n_ o c_ i d- e !-_-*
“We’re living in a culture where nothing is okay.”
I don’t see that, I see that we’re raising our standards of what is okay.
''We're'' largely making up new, moronic standards on what's not ok
@@bredbandtva7177 Excatly. Everyone has different standards and feels offended by something different therefore nothing we do will be enough. Cancel culture is a delinquent action.
@E M3 Thank you !
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Thank you Emmanuel Acho. I have been trying to lean in to these conversations but haven't found too many willing to engage. So this is very valuable.
"A rising tide floats all boats!" I love that! Great video. Only the 2nd one of yours I've seen other than the introductory video. I just subscribed. Well done, sir! You have helped me to understand the racist, non-racist, anti-racist, etc. issues we face in our world today more fully! Looking forward to more of it. Thank you.
I would love to see a few of these with participants other than celebrities. Even more I would like to see a conversation with people of Southern and rural backgrounds, and have really uncomfortable conversations with two people who want to find common ground. They are out there.
at 8:30 she reminds a lot of something I once said to my brother. He said; "well racism docent happen here" (I live in Canada) I turn around and said "are you okay? It ABSOLUTELY does!" and he just shrugged I said "while down town with my boyfriend and his cousin a group of white men ran up to us and started yelling 'n*****' my boyfriends little brother got beat up at school and called the n word, and OUR own cousin got chased into his house with his baby girl in his arms by a white yelling at him saying "you have a n***** baby" thats racism happening to our family" he got very defensive and said well I have never seen it and I said "well look around we are all white ofcourse you haven't and a POC isn't gong to come running up to you and share their story you have to educate yourself" I was eventually told I proved my point and to stop talking, so we are still working on it lol
Thank you for sharing your experience. I think it really shows one of the biggest problems of ending cultural racism world wide that we have to get past our defensive mentality and really examine our thoughts, actions, and attitudes. To not be afraid to correct our friends and family when we witness something that could fuel racism and also accept correction from others who see those actions in ourselves. And not just a white person towards a person of color but also people of color towards white people and other people of color. And I say this as a black person myself.
Which part of Canada do you live in ?
Yeah, i think the most important bit was your brother saying to stop talking about it. People dont want to admit they are wrong and ignorant about other peoples experiences. And because it didnt happen to him, it didnt exist. But also hes suppressing the uncomfortable truth. Top many people think because you were not called the n word, its not racism, and if you were called one, be happy with "progress" because "real" racism will be called it every day. And if you bring it up, you are playing the race card or virtue signalling, or finding racism where it dont exist. This is the main issue. When racism needs to be addressed, people are told to shut up and be quiet, or they are opportunistic. If you do that, then its "why didnt you mention it at the time?".
I think the media and hollywood helped to paint a negative image of POC to the world. Self image is even a problem within ethic groups globally where darker skin and eyes are shamed. I am happy people are starting to be more aware of this. Thanks for sharing your story
this reply section omg ya'll are so sweet
Awesome video. Thank you both so much!
Thanks! I appreciated this and you two in the world!
Wtf really? Chelsea handler? The one who had to remind 50 cent he’s black lmfao.
It just shows you their state of mind! They live in a double standard world, where their word and only theirs, matters. All else must bow!!!!!
Hes biased so his show is worthless now. I watched because I thought he would make a difference.
She dated 50 Cent so she has that level of comfort with him. The fact that you complain about that without knowing context shows you are entitled. Go look up Tenahasi Coates and why there are certain things that non-whites can not say to Blacks, even if you want to.
@@juanmachado1844 I liked how you assumed people didn't know that. Assumptions are no good.
If 50 Cent doesn’t have a problem with what she said, why do you? Sus
“I had to remind him that he was a black man and couldn’t vote for trump.”
Chelsea Handler
The hypocrisy that she is speaking to a black man about having an “uncomfortable conversation” even though two weeks ago told a black man he couldn’t vote for someone because of the color of his own skin. Where’s the bucket? I need to vomit.
Although trump likes to walk around like the orange frog he is he hasn’t done anything for black people other then evict them from or deny them housing. He is a con artist. Lest you forget. Her telling a black man to not vote for a con is the right thing to do. If it was 50cent then he was voting for his own interest to protect what money he has and not about the greater margin of African Americans and blacks suffering under this current administration
She is trying to be a different person sitting across from Emmanuel. She doesn’t have a clue... And all this after becoming famous. Why isn’t Emmanuel asking her about her comment “I had to remind him he was black and couldn’t vote for Trump”. Firs5 time I’m really disappointed in Emmanuel not holding her responsible for her prior comments.
@@Misunderstated HAhahaha "an orange frog"!
ohh God they are friends...friends tend to be innapropriate with each other period. i really thought nothing was wrong with it. i dont think chealsea thinks 50 cant think for himself cause hes black shes just jokingly making a point to her friend. i hate when peole take things out of context and make it something horrible...
@@TJbailey13 If you think nothing is wrong with insulting someone's ancestry over a political disagreement, then being consistent you should think Trump is one of the least racist men to be president, given that's he's never said anything racist in public ever.
Haven’t seen all your episodes yet, but this has to be one of the best ones.
Share & like y’all’s!
Very insightful & everybody deserves a chance if they’re sincerely apologetic, remorseful & want to change & evolve morally, socially & overall for the better.👍🏼✌🏼🙏🏼🌹🌟💓
Great conversation!!! Thanks so much keep the dialogue going. BLESSINGS
“Conversations with a black man except it’s just Chelsea handler talking at someone for 15 minutes straight”
Cocaine is a helluva drug.
About her celebrity privilege
@@kevin15776 facts
To be fair, a good interviewer's job is to get their guest to talk as much as they can, as long as it's productive or interesting. I think this went well. It didn't seem very uncomfortable though. :-D
@@NathanielJordan85 Of course it is, Mackenzie doesn't seem to understand this basic tenant. All of the best interviewers, Larry King, Conan, Rogan, Charlie Rose, Howard Stern (ok Stern had his own style, but it worked and revealed a usually hidden side of the guest) - they know how to ask the right question and then listen to the answer.
I have been watching Emmanuel's forum here ever since it started. I know from my own experience with my own hatred, that the only way to understand anyone or any group of people is to sit down and talk with someone talking and the other listening then reverse it. So, I want to know how can I help? I'm an old white man, 65, who grew up in central Florida in a small town and all I learned when I was a kid about Black people was that they "lived down in the quarters" and liked collard greens and opossum. So, as you can tell, I learned from the play book of racism. After I hit my teens I became a wanna be hippie and hung out with people of all colors. The crap I heard from my father and a lot of other white people felt very wrong to me. I didn't like that 'n' word. It felt like so much contempt and hatred balled up in one word. I took a friend of mine who happened to be a Black guy to a bar one night and on the way he told me he didn't know if it was a good idea. I said, "Hey man, it's the 70s". Guess what? I went in. After a few minutes I looked back at the door and he was still there with 3 guys looking at the stuff he was taking from his wallet. I went over and after he ran out of IDs they told him he couldn't come in. He had more IDs than I did. I couldn't believe it and I felt so bad for my friend. Of course we left. So, I would like to know. How can I help?
Cheryl Hoffman challenge your white brothers and sisters who’s never interacted with someone of color, to simply get to know and befriend a person who doesn’t look like them. I truly appreciate you wanting to help because this country needs togetherness and healing. Peace and blessing to you.
Be part of the conversation. Call out racism when you see or hear it. Listen to Black voices and follow their lead. Show up to your city council meetings and pay attention to how racism in local ordinances might impact the Black people living in your community. Patronize Black businesses (seek them out before hitting Amazon). Subscribe to Black media and newsletters, like the Antiracism Daily. www.antiracismdaily.com/
Good luck!
Oh, are you on Twitter?
You can begin by teaching other white people that its not enough to "not be racist"...but instead, they must be anti-racist. You can begin by showing other white people the honesty in who we are as black people; that we work hard and have jobs, we go to school, we start businesses and have families, that we love and have dreams, and that despite all that has been done to us, we continue to embrace white people by sharing our culture and extending ourselves. You can begin by sharing true statistics regarding drugs, violence and poverty among black people in this country and understand the idea of poverty among our group where systematic racism is concerned. You can begin by distancing yourself from those who refuse to listen and change course. You can begin by educating yourself much more by speaking to other black people, taking a more intimate peek into their lives, learning more about their challenges and seeing them as equal individuals. You can begin by learning the true history of black people in this country and opening your eyes to the fact that we unfairly fear for our lives and those of our loved ones when we haven't done anything wrong. You can begin by looking at that fact that in this country, we have never been the aggressor. You can begin by understanding the root of the racism of whites in this country, where it came from and how / why it started, and the fear that white people have, that is attached. You can begin by judging each person based on their disposition as opposed to their race and where they come from. You can begin by understanding that ANYONE who refuses an education or is on drugs or who was never given the education to manage their money properly (prioritizing material things coveted over things needed) has NOTHING to do with race, but says more about the circumstances that has led them to either of those paths...race not included. You can begin by understanding that black people want to be treated fairly because everything that happens to us today has been happening since we were forcefully brought to this country, and being black is not a crime, nor does it make us unworthy of respect... or that we should even be seen as some kind of threat. And you can begin by realizing that no one has a choice in their birth and how they were born...but still, who they are and the fact that they exist deserves them the basic rights of community and dignity. You can begin there.
@Ramon Ramirez Well, to be honest, Cheryl Hoffman asked this question and so, was provided the suggestion to patronize black businesses. You must be confused because I don't recall anyone responding with that particular suggestion to you. But, if you have experienced any amount of racism by black people or by anyone, then its disheartening. However, things can never get to where they need to be if folks think as you do. Assuming that your statement is true, you can't judge the ENTIRE race of black people based on your experiences. I mean, have you actually met every black person, in this country and abroad?
When you are truly ready to be a part of the conversation, you know where to find us. Until then, reassess where your negativity cones from and start there. Heal up.
Love your videos!! Thank you Emmanuel !
LOVE YOUR SHOW EMMANUEL!!! Keep it going!!
This is so cringeworthy. Acho needs to have conversations with someone with different views such as Brandon Tatum, Coleman Hughes, and Thomas Sowell.
very surprised nothing was said on the topic of her statement to 50 cent as I assumed that was the reason she was on here.
She did a whole documentary about white privilege. I think that is why she was invited.
The only reason I started watching was because I thought he would call her out on that. But, if hes not, I'm out!
That sort of question is uncomfortable and so would never be asked here.
@@glennwatson3313 Because she's a hypocrite
Keep in mind they very likely may have filmed this before she made that comment.
One of my favorites, though I've appreciated all of them. I just like her direct approach. Thank you for continuing these conversations.
I am love your conversations! I've passed them on to my husband and everything. I just can't stop watching!
Thank you for your continuous love and support ❤️
2020 felt like a year long episode of Black Mirror...
I didn't know slave owners were given reparations? Thank you for this interview.
Yeah that blew my mind. Another point for me when I gotta argue with these southern ass racist mfs in this town that I live in
If I recall correctly, the British also paid their slave owners for loss of property. The amount was large enough that they finally zeroed out the balance less than ten years ago....and they ended slavery before America did.
Soooooo, let's talk disparity of income and how former slaves started off behind FINANCIALLY. Then we can discuss the legal system that added other shackles.
@@williamhicks8529 you may wana read up on yo history before repeating some ole BS like that. These southerners know how to read dummy, unlike you.
@@zinaj9437 Abe Lincoln actually authorized the payment to slave owners about midway through the civil war in an attempt to save the US.
oh yeah, and when some of the ships of the Transatlantic route would get lost at sea/sunk, the human traffickers would get their insurance payout...
Love thoses episodes keep’em commin
Great conversation. Well done Emmanuel Acho. Thank you for all these conversations that add light to our world!
Emmanuel, if you read this, I want you to know that I love you as a brother. What you're doing is so important (not that you need my validation) for America. I have 3 kids whose mom is black, my wife is black, my closest friends are black. I didn't know what to do to help these problems they face and then you started this show. Now I feel like the inside man having uncomfortable conversations veiled as safe place conversations.
My ask is that you go on tour with different police departments and do what you did in Petaluma and make it personal to them. God bless and stay strong 💪 🙏
I love these conversations, but as a colleague mentioned to me, some of the conversations appear far more comfortable than others.
I found your page off instagram and I’m telling you I cant stop watching your videos 🥺❤️... Thank you . You have teach me alot .
A rising tide floats all boats. Wow. Thank you for uploading this video, Emanuel.
This woman is a horrible human being. She believes “some people” shouldn’t be allowed a fair trial.
Should add people with disabilities in the group that need to succeed. They have no one to help them and are forgotten.
That includes veterans and children, VETERANS GIVE UP SO MUCH, INCLUDING THEIR OWN LIVES, AND CHILDREN JUST WANT SOMEONE TO GIVE THEM LOVE,
@@karenculver4550 child of a veteran here, not so fun fact but a lot of people get into the military to get out of poverty (my dad did to feed me my mom and my sister) and some of them when they retire go right back to it, or in my families case we live off my father's disability money. And there's a clause in his in paycheck that says if he dies we get nothing. We're middle-class now and doing okay for ourselves but if he died all 6 of my siblings, my mother and myself would be fucked. The military is a shit show both mentally and physically for people and its almost like it's desgined to take people, use them and then fuck them over. And tbh I feel that way about a lot of systems in the US. (Sorry for the rant)
@@orgionofnoob2100 Losing benefits when the beneficiary dies is common in the Unions too. Not saying that makes it OK, just saying it happens outside of the military as well.
I really enjoy these videos Emmanuel!
I loved this soooo much!!! This was such a great conversation and I really appreciate hearing that I'm not the only one who really does not like cancel culture at all because yes... I agree that people need the chance to change if and only if they are truly sorry!! People need to be held accountable and challenged to do the actual work necessary so that they can transform and the world becomes a better place so the same mistakes don't keep happening! :))
Hey Emmanuel- Watched five or six of your videos, and really enjoy how you break down a complex subject into thoughtful morsels. If I had a critique, it's that your guests are all so earnest; it would be compelling to watch you interact with people who don't get yet that there might be another side to the story... great job regardless!
I think it's a good concept, but I know that you can't have a conversation with someone who isn't willing or open minded.
Oh that would be tough, unfair and unnecessary to put the host in the position to have to hear such harsh and hateful ideologies to his face, then have to defend his very existence to someone who feels he has no value as a human. I’d want no part of a conversation with someone such as that. I think hearing from people who have put the difficult work in to realize their own hatred and supremacy and found a way to heal and grow is much more beneficial to our climate. However, It may work with non-racist white host leading those conversations.
Great interview as usual
great episode- need a part 2!
Handler: "Sure I've done bad things, but I can't think of an example."
Watson: Sure I can throw shade, just don't ask me what my point is.
@@coppersense999 You can ask me for my point is anytime. Of course you won't. You might get triggered.
“The white liberal is like a fox..” - Malcom X
He didn’t like you either , don’t try and quote him for your own agenda
@Based Blonde Guy He’s a white trump supporter , it’s not hard to tell. Read between the lines
@Based Blonde Guy You just said a whole lot of nothing man lol
@Based Blonde Guy I’m black lol, @Malik is a dumbass 😂😂
@@ChrisFalls Your profile pic and the fact that your name is Cody shoes that you’re lying , nice try tho bud lol
This is one of my favorite episodes of this so far.
Wish this was longer ! Such a great duo
Dam, this was good. Thank you youtube. Didn't know this existed
Welcome ✋🏼 Watch and enjoy the other episodes !
Great discussion, makes you think and realize how subtle racism can be.