Palestinian American Noura Erakat on the Israel-Hamas War | FULL EPISODE | Uncomfortable Convos
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- Опубликовано: 19 окт 2023
- In the second part of a 2-episode special, Emmanuel Acho sits down with Palestinian American and activist Noura Erakat to honor the tragic loss of civilian life as an international crisis continues to unfold.
Watch Part 1 with Israeli-born Noa Tishby: • Israeli-born Jewish Au...
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1:25 Introduction
2:28 How has this impacted you personally on a human level?
4:18 Palestinian Survivor's Guilt
5:36 Being Palestinian in America
6:35 Breaking Down the Atrocities of October 7th
7:54 The Palestinian Experience since the late 1940s
9:08 Jewish vs. Palestinian
9:56 Self-Determination
11:16 Open-Air Prison
12:21 What can you do to support?
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Thank you Emmanuel for trying to see the story as a neutral and allowing a Palestinian to speak without interruption but with the intention of understanding.
There’s nothing to see her but hyperbole and nonsense
Creating a false narrative to support terrorist regimes like " Palestine /Hamas " and even BLM..
National defense and security for Israel is not a moral equivalent to Hamas/Gaza/terrorist attempting to seize Israel to kill people and take their things. Gazans ARE oppressed, but it's not Israel doing so. Like the low culture haters in America who relate to the imaginary oppression of " palestinian" they are their own problem. Stop blaming better people for your bad outcomes. The irony of women who can't show their hair calling America oppressive....🇮🇱🇺🇸🇮🇱
Emanuel, Can you have a discussion with both Noura Erakat and Noa Tishby at the same time. Talk about how we can be pro the people and anti the forces that put us in the crossfire of this conflict.
How can we pro-apartheid and the settlers who are complicit in that settlement? Palestinians didn't ask for the settlers to create this oppressive state that dehumanizes their existence.
Americans, like me, really need to ask ourselves why we are pro-military support for Israel.
@@AutisticLee FFS, I wish people would stop using the term apartheid when they clearly have no fkn idea what it means 🙄
Noa is a lightweight who repeats government talking points. A debate with Noura wouldn't be in her best interests.
This is a great question 👏🏾
These conversations make a difference. Thank you Acho.
Asking the right questions, "what emotions do you feel in your body...?"
"I don't struggle from a place of guilt anymore, I struggle from a place of love"
"You cannot extinguish a people's thirst for freedom"....deep words by Noura
Deep?? Ha!!!! If you consider this deep than you must be extremely shallow.
She has freedom. What Palestinians want is power.
Which is exactly why Israel and the Jewish people will never be defeated. It's suicidal for the Palestinians to continue this insanity.
Yes, killers hate being restrained.
The Palestinians had many opportunities to create their own state but they rejected every one of them. Which means they don’t really want their own state but wish for the destruction of Israel.
Neura, I applaud you and your comments. I’m neither Israeli or Palestinian nor am I Jewish so maybe it’s easier for me to see the humanity and the inhumanity in this conflict and, I agree, we have to ask how and why did we get here. The only thing that I do know is that war is not the answer. Dehumanizing people isn’t the answer.
Absolutely correct.
Praying for President Putin. He's a great man and President. He's not like our American president president who supports the Holocaust against the Palestinians in Palestine. When the war was over majority of Nazis escaped Europe and went to Palestine with the help of United States and Europe. The Zionist don't believe in God they are not the religious Jews. They are the Jews that killed the religious Jews. Hitler was a Jew that descendant from Ukraine but they are Ashkenazi Russian Nazi Jews killing the Palestinians. They are actually Nazis and United States is hiding that secret. They same way they killed the religious Jews they are killing the Palestinians its a Holocaust. USA is supporting a Holocaust in Palestine while the whole world watches and believe the lies Isreal is sending out. They are preaching the same thing Hitler preached.
Keep drinking the coolaid
you don't need to see anything except knowing what happened Oct 7. This is cruel and beyond humanity.
@@larry5356you need to see everything, including what happened way BEFORE October 7th and what is continuing to happen. If you don’t, you might as well claim the holocaust did not happen because that is exactly what you are choosing to do.
As a Jewish American, I am so sorry Noura. The story of your cousin breaks my heart. That should never have happened to your family. And the messages that you recieve are vile and no logical Jewish or Israeli person should ever type or speak those words. I am also recieving death threats in my inbox for defending and even just mentioning Jews and the historical atrocities that my ancestors have faced. Unfortunately, it seems to be happening to ALL of us. I would have loved to hear more about your perspective on Hamas and how they treat and stand for the Palestinian cause.
Bless your heart! Empathy and compassion is what is needed for Palestinians and good warm hearted Jewish people like yourself ♥
As a Zionist Israeli Jew That IS PRO-PALESTINIANS, you took the words right out of my mouth.
I believe that history will not treat Israel kindly. To the casual observer, it may be hard to understand the challenges that Palestinians face. But after hearing stories of discrimination, not much different from the hardships of Blacks in the Jim Crow era, one can come away with an understanding of what prompted the atrocities of October 7th, without condoning them. Certainly considered terrorists at their time, Nat Turner and John Brown are viewed much differently today, than at the time in which they lived.
She leaves out the part of cars being used as bombs as to why Israeli soldiers would be on extreme guard.
@@Malgus87 I completely agree
Even during “ordinary” times the Gaza Strip suffers from a chronic water shortage. About 90 percent of the water in the faucets is not potable. The majority of the 2.2 million inhabitants depend on water that was desalinated and purified in special facilities that is sold or distributed in containers and at special drinking fountains in the cities. Only a small, specific class of people can afford to buy bottled mineral water.
Perhaps Hamas shouldn’t use the EU funded water pipes for rockets…
@@Stevef2022maybe you should ask yourself why Hamas even exists and how it came to be
@@roronoazoro2970Maybe you should ask yourself the same about the Taliban and why they attacked America on 9/11. 😘
@@NessaBear90 the ones who already got proven to get funded and trained by the CIA? Yeah ok lmao
@@NessaBear90 btw I’m a U.S. army combat vet so just know it’s possible to admit when your own side is wrong something you civilians need to learn is compromising and broadening perspectives
This is so sad, the international community need to do something now. The Palestinian people have been suffering for far too long
Amen
They had so many opportunities for a two state solution, and always rejected it. In 1948 they rejected it to state solution, between 1949 in 1967 the Arab world could’ve created a Palestinian state with the West Bank Garza and east Jerusalem. In 2000 they were being given 99% of what they were asking for and still turned it down. The Palestinians don’t want a two state solution. That’s why they shout from the river to the sea.
@@charlesrutherford7057 bullshit. This tired argument has no basis in practical reality. They would never receive their homes back. The militias have been killing Palestinians since 1907. Its astonishing the Israelis are doing this to another group of people, especially since they’ve suffered unspeakable horrors themselves.
they have been given hundreds of millions of dollars in aid but what did they do with that money? THEY BUILT TUNNELS AND BUY WEAPONS.
@@charlesrutherford7057
Thank you for sharing this truth 1:53 .
Such an important conversation to have so that we have a better understanding & be more empathetic when it comes to Palestinians. 🙏🏼🇵🇸❤️
13:46. Exactly right, Gaza has a beautiful shoreline. So why Hamas, since 2005 when Israel left Gaza didn’t invest in Gaza, and instead put all it effort to smuggle arms from the sea (hence why the blockade) from the Egyptian border (hence why Egypt close their border with Gaza and export Terri to Israel (hence the tight border on the Israel side) and built a huge tunnel system to attack Israel or smuggle arms from the Egyptian side.
It took at least 30 comments to finally see someone who questioned the narrative. If it is an open air prison why don't we ask why Arabs (Egypt) is one of the prison guards?
@@scottgraham5284No one Questions that🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Hi Noura, I’m so sorry for your loss and what’s happening to the Palestinians right now and in the past. I have Jewish roots and many Jewish family members but I condemn the Israeli government. I’m so torn bc at the same time I also condemn Hamas and how Jewish people have been treated for centuries now. The pain and trauma on both sides is very real and so heartbreaking. I’m reading a lot of books about this topic, trying to educate myself on this without choosing a side. But my heart goes out to all the Palestinians suffering. And the Israelis and Jewish people. Heartbroken. We are all human in the end. I hope this comment doesn’t get hate. Now is a time to show love and compassion. We are craving it.
i hope to see many jewish like u so i believe we can live to gather with equal rights,
i grow up as a palestinian who dont have the right to return, i am 44 but i could not even a once to visit my country,
i remember my father has to travel to jordan every time so he can meet with his parents who were living in west bank
this is has to end, the suffering of palestinian whos still on palestine or even us
i believe there is many jewish against whats happening to us, and we have all to work to gather to end it,
i educated my self with abooks of Illan pape avi shlaim bani mores, they all Israeli and admitted the atrocity that happen to us and still on going
Im a Jew with Israeli family killed in both this attack past ones. Peace on both sides please
@@SHope-rq1hc I’m so incredibly sorry for your loss. Stay strong. And yes - let’s pray for peace. It’s the only way to move forward.
Hi, I have studied the conflict for five years from a human rights and anti-war perspective for my bachelors and currently my masters, here are some organizations I highly suggest everyone to look into; they are those also searching for peace.
B’Tselem
Al Haq
Breaking the Silence
Public Committee Against Torture in Israel
Physicians For Human Rights Israel
Tent of Nations
Human Rights Watch
Seeds of Peace
Friends of Sabeel
Holy Land Trust
Amnesty International
The Israeli Coalition Against House Demolitions
Peace Now
Musalaha Ministry of Reconciliation
Parent’s Circle Family Forum
Rabbis for Human Rights
Palestinian here 👋 we love our Jewish brother and sisters who can see what the Israeli gov is doing is furthering us from peace. We stand with you guys as you guys stand with us. I hope for freedom for all one. No aparthied walls or checkpoints and one state with us together. That’s how we get closer to humanity
You deserve to be free and you deserve to be loved just like every other innocent human being on both sides..God bless 🙌🏼
I knew Ms. Noura would go much more in depth about the oppressed history of the Palestinians! Ms. Noa acted as if she couldn't find 1 single reason why Israel would be seen as the oppressors, smh. Thank you for bringing Noura Erakat on to shine light on the situation. It was much needed after that last interview!
She's really taken on the elitist attitude of a 50's Southern belle.
Yes, Ms. Noa gave the perspective as a privileged person.
@@sigmamind711how exactly?
@@noazelinger5396 I just feel like she could have spoken on the prejudices against Palestinians. Like not being able to vote in Israeli elections even though Israel governs Gaza. Or not being to leave without a special I.d. w
When asked why Israel is seen as oppressive. She seemed as if she had no idea as to why. That's all.
@@sigmamind711 I can see your point now. Btw, since 2005 (I think, fact check me please) Israel DOES NOT govern Gaza anymore.. does that change anything?
So glad to see this prospective!! I was critical yesterday glad to see this brother covering the whole story.
May I ask you what did you think about the last episode? Now that you’ve seen he gave both sides a voice?
And what do you think about the lack of mentioning of Hamas (let alone condemning them) and its role in all of this?
@@noazelinger5396 we don't ask isrealis to condemn the IDF or its extremists.
@@anabali6301and yet, when necessary, we do.
@anabali6301 because the UN does that every day already lol.
Thanks so much for this courageous conversation!❤
Thanks for this Emmanuel. This conversation NEEDS to be heard
Beautifully said. Thank you for this brave conversation ❤️
We need to keep these conversations going . Thanks for giving all sides of this conflict an opportunity to tell their stories .
I would like to come on Emmanual Acho show and speak to him. There something I want to talk to him about.
I've emailed Emmanuel Acho and tried to speak to make a time to have me on his show to speak about conversation he declines to reply.
what conflict? who made the first attack on Oct 7? They came into a musical festival and please remind me what they did. All because Israsel and Saudis were agreeing to a deal?
Thank you for being willing to have this conversation
Thank you so much Noura! So humbled by your courage and commitment! You're clear and powerful voice is so important .. Thank you!!!
Let’s be honest. This conversation is so needed but sadly it is one of few. Thanks for being so bold and courageous and doing this.
I love Noura Erakat. ❤ Thankyou for interviewing her.
Thank you again for the two perspectives Emmanuel! These make a difference!
Much of this was predicted by the late professor Zeev Sternhell, a Holocaust survivor and Israel’s foremost authority on fascism, who explained in his 2018 essay titled “In Israel, Growing Fascism and a Racism Akin to Early Nazism” that these fascists “don’t wish to physically harm Palestinians. They only wish to deprive them of their basic human rights, such as self-rule in their own state and freedom from oppression.” Though the appointment of the sadistic Ben Gvir as minister of National Security is about wishing the Palestinians physical harm.
In short, those who continue to doubt that fascism is an impending danger for Israel, are not paying attention to how its coalescing chauvinistic forces are planning on ravaging whatever is left of Israel’s liberal institutions in order to turn the Jewish state into a full-fledged fascist theocracy.
"When the oppressed becomes the oppressor"
Oppressed so-called
I applaud you again for using you platform to provide some clarity on the plight of those that are being affected by the GENOCIDE that has been unfolding. Innocent people are dying daily, Hammas needs to be condemned and stopped just as the Isreali govt need to be curtailed and restrained!!!
Thank you for speaking the young child's name! We cannot sit and watch this happen without acting
When you say Genocide, who and what are you referring to actually?
By Genocide I am referring to the actions that are leading to thousands of Palestinians (not just Hammas) being asked to leave an area that has not water, electricity, food and being bombed...all of this is by design by the Isreali govt and can only lead to the mass death of palestinians@@Jay-zq2um
Expect no clarity when you hear dramatic music on the background
@@TheSvRomait bothered me when it happened in both episodes. It comes off as deceptive.
How do you propose to stop Hamas?
Thank you, thank you! We all really need to understand ALL SIDES.
Thank-you so much for this.
Sanctity of human life is something all humans should be able to agree on. I appreciate her perspective
Too bad Hamas didn't/doesn't believe in that
@@christifrat thinking same, but have humans, as a whole, EVER agreed that all of human life is sacred? Not since the dawn of mankind, and I'm not so hopeful that it will happen now.
Sanctity of life is not something Palestinians feel the same. They use their own children as shields. They are murderous cowards, that's the definition of most Palestinians and certainly ALL Hamas and Hezbollah.
@kathysowers yes, that's why the Christian west invented human rights.
Hey Emmanuel I would love to see if it’s possible getting both groups on the show at the same time talking to each other. Don’t know how much of a conflict that would be. Just trying to understand
Hamas doend't want to talk. They don't want to negotiate. They don't want peace. They want to kill Jews and destroy Israel. This has been their goal and is in their charter. Israel is not fighting to get revenge. Israel is fighting to stay alive.
I think it's hard considering how emotional the situation is
The Palestinian women would turn the opportunity down..
Well done. Thank you for this.
Welp she definitely got the harder questions… and she handled herself very gracefully! #freepalestine !
Free Constantinople
What was the harder questions?
I thought the interview question were equal.
He asked the same question to both
I learned so much from Noura, thank you both for this conversation❤
Thank you Emmanuel. We needed this.
May all of our Middle Eastern brothers and sisters hopefully find peace amidst the fog of War being enacted by those who simply refuse to move on
Emmanuel, thanks for these conversations
Much love Emmanuel to you and Noura. I'll do all I can which isn't much, however I can and will continue to pray for freedom and peace.
Thanks for these two episodes , loved both ladies, praying for true peace
I don't know who's ultimately right or wrong in this situation and I don't have a side... but being black in America, I can relate with what she's expressing and going through much more than I can connect with your other guest. I would love to hear the conversation with both of them together!! That's the real Uncomfortable Conversation... make it happen Emmanuel and let's see what's really real!!
There is no comparison to the history of blacks in America and the Palestinians. The Palestinians turned down two-state proposals in 1947 and the 1990's. From 1995 to 2015, Palestinians carried out over 140 suicide attacks and people like this woman can't understand why the Israelis setup checkpoints and build walls and barriers.
"This is why as an American, as a Black American, I will always stand against hate and stand with the people who are targets of hate. Hamas, like the nazis, target people with hate. This is not complicated, America." - Senator Corey Booker, member of the Foreign Affairs committee who was in Israel during Saturdays terrorist attack.
Do the reading
agreed! not having the two views able to challenge one another is a huge loss.
@@louisea4920I’ve read about 7 books on Israel and been there 4 times. What’s your frame of reference for your views on Israel and its history?
Such a beautiful conversation with such a positive ending, which every human being deserves in this earth equally. Thank you for arranging it, Emmanuel Acho. Really appreciate it ❤
I appreciate this Eman. I appreciate this platform. As humans this is heartbreaking. I love how his questions were in a way that black people can relate to
He's not black. He's a nigerian phony who cosplays American black men to tether onto our heritage.
First we need to have the guts to condemn any extreme groups and ideologies and absolutism.
I noticed that in the conversation with the Israeli American the sentiments between the two women were quite similar actually. They both want peace & freedom from both sides. It’s important to separate the people from the politics. There are people in many countries suffering under corrupt, inept, or authoritarian governments. Sadly, other countries cannot go in & fix other governments. We tried that in Afghanistan. The Palestinian people must first be free of Hamas if they can ever consider a democracy.
In a more clear reading of the history of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict and behind it all the liberation narratives around the world, we find that Hamas, like any liberation movements, will be accused of being terrorist and subversive, but if it is victorious in its battle, it will emerge publicly as a liberation movement against the occupation. Therefore, we must read the events within their historical and geographical contexts. What the media propaganda tries to portray for degrading material goals and objectives.
Hamas was created by Israel to fight plo and then Israel occupied and displaced Palestinians. Now with all the killings, a ppl with no hope are supposed to do what? When they were peaceful the world did literally nothing during the march of return.
Israel is an apartheid state. What are you talking about? What about the people in West Bank who are incessantly getting harassed by a Israeli settlers, and the Israeli government gives the settlers guns, an encouragement to harass and even kill, harass them when they’re trying to pray in their mosques force them to walk on another side of the street treated like cattle, an animal with no dignity and subhuman
The West Bank doesn’t have Hamas that’s where majority of Palestinians live and it’s under the most control. Palestinians are never heard. What we need is for people to see the humanity in Palestinians. Even if there was no Hamas there would not be freedom it would make no difference. In fact there was no Hamas when isreal first established itself and put Palestinians under apartheid. Hamas developed later
@@aminaibrahim9811 Exactly 💯 👏
Brilliant, respectful and absolutely moving.
Thank you for this clip. She made some sense.
Thanks and props for having her on and giving the Palestinian perspective.
What a horrific situation for a family member to endure. May God help us all.
Thank you for being brave and telling your history!
Thank you both.
Big ups to you Acho for getting to the real, when most Americans blindly following the government and not understand what’s really happening. What’s happening on the holy land is so so so much deeper than everyone realizes.
What’s to understand the Palestinian plight is one side and the other has the same tragedies
Almost exactly! It’s a fight between good and evil, between those who seek life, unity, peace and love and Hamas terrorists.
So called "black' Americans have been screaming the same things for decades, but it fell on deaf ears. Their situation is a mirror image of the plight of the so called 'black' Americans.
@@noazelinger5396You’re an Evil Evil person
@@michaelreiter503both have tragedies but not same! One side is understood the other is silenced! What’s your understand is also the ones silenced
Dude, never stop. The world needs to have these conversations. These thoughtful clips are a toe in the water to get people talking.
The trick is to get this messaging outside the echo chamber.
I read an article written by her from 2016 in the NYT and became a fan of hers. Sister Warrior, indeed. I am so glad she has remained steadfast in her dedication.
Great episode .. thank you
Absolutely heartbreaking. Your heart strings are pulled by hearing the story of her cousin. I'm so sorry to hear of it. She displays great strength in the midst of hurt. I'm praying for her.
I applaud Acho for asking the questions and helping us to be aware of the suffering from people that have connections to the issues going on in the Middle East. Let us pray for a peaceful resolution to this.
Would love to see a conversation between her and Noa 🙏🏽
Great discussion yes we needed this especially during these difficult times
Great show! It's so horrible what has happened to the civilians. Thank you for using your platform to have these conversations. We may not all agree, but we can agree to disagree without hurting one another. Koodos to you.❤
I love her point that "we all have the right to belong to this land, but not be masters of this land.' Therein lies the crux of the problem. I am a Christian, from the US. I am no expert. However, I don't believe that Jewish people or Muslim people are more or less at fault for the problems regarding peace in the Middle East. I am supremely frustrated by the unwavering support of Israelis by the US government and some citizens with complete disregard for the human rights of Palestinians. This is heartbreaking. Thank you for this honest conversation!
It's convenient politics
The root of the problem is the Israel though it could be created with no regard to people already there. To get 50% of land when you were 80% of the population when it was created…and till this day 70% of Palestinian lands are controlled in the West Bank and Gaza is controlled externally by Israel yet internally Hamas has some influence. They exterminate, exploit the people there. And expect the violence that birthed Israel created groups like Hamas. The PLO has not been able to gain ground with the right wing Israeli government that doesnt want them to exist.
I know you are not going to want to hear truth but let me tell you something. In 1964 I stood outside the walls of the old city of Jerusalem staring up at Arabs with guns pointed down at us from atop the walls. Yes, we were forbidden to enter the old city when it was under Arab rule as were Christians also forbidden. You know what happened in 1967 after Israel was attacked on all sides by Arabs?????? We took Jerusalem back and you know what????? EVERYONE regardless of race, creed, religion or any other differentiation has been welcomed with open arms to the old city. Sorry to ruin your day with truth.
Thank you for covering this topic 🇵🇸
We pray for peace ,serenity
& understanding for all
I have Palestinian American friends. They once told me that his brother was going to get married. So both brothers were traveling to Palestine together. The Israelis gave them such a hard time at the airport. They interrogated them for about 8+hours. The Israelis kept insisting on the brother if you are coming for your brother's wedding whom you are sitting right next to and traveled with from America, "where is your wedding invitation card?"
I am a Jewish man and travelled to Israel by myself for work. Held up for 5 hours by airport security.
Pain on the butt, however they are totally within their rights to do so.
Just look up the story of Anne-Marie Murphy to understand why the Israelis have to be skeptical, especially at the airport.
We do that in America after the religion of peace used our own airplanes to kill more innocent people.
Palestinians have been blowing up Jewish children for decades and you expect the Israelis to take that crime and easily let them in?
Jewish people can’t even travel to Arab countries if they’ve been to Israel, that’s why they don’t stamp your passport.
@@Stevef2022this bullshit! In their own country? Getting held up and questioned for 8 hours! If Israel is not doing bad stuffs to the Palestinians why are they scared in the first place? Why? If you can answer that with a very great answer I will give you my pay check!
Thank you for speaking TRUTH. The world is waking up !!!
amazing interview
I think on platforms such as this it's important to address and emphasize the historical context of these conflicts and controversies and how the ignorance of the historical context especially in the media perpetuates further conflicts
It’s a shame she didn’t acknowledge all the Jewish people cast out of their homes in Arab countries.
100% And she left out the part of why the war started in 1948. It was because the Palestinians refused a two state solution and all of the Arab countries declared war on Israel. How convenient for her. SMH
@@Sdority905They've been doing that this WHOLE time. Every post I've read is calling Israeli people colonizers. How can you be a colonizer if you've been there for 3000+ years?! Make it make sense. Playing the victim. Like I feel horrible about her cousin 😢 and what her family has gone through. It seems like they were taught only a scewed version which paints them as the 100% victims.
My heart is breaking. How can people treat others like that and call themselves 'human'?
Thank you for this. Both sides!
Thankyou for giving someone an opportunity to speak on this issue, when MSM is mute on this entire perspective
Emmanuel, thank you for asking the questions and facilitating the conversation. Please put this and your previous video with Noa Tishby together so that everyone has to watch both people's pain and insights. If you could blend them together or something. I understand why you've shown them separately, but I think people need to be forced to listen to people from different backgrounds and understanding.
Only by hearing perspectives and thoughts, we feel uncomfortable with will we grow and develop a more tolerant, understanding and compassionate society.
I stand for Peace.
Everyone deserves to be free and safe, but let's remember what happened on Oct 7th. NOTHING can justified what happened that day in Israel.
If we bring in up October the 7th then we're not solving anything nor progressing, it's 20th of October. Same shit happened to the Palestinians for a whole damn week.
Oh really... the same as Oct 7th? You should check the facts on what happened that day in Israel. It's like saying let's not talk about 9/11, violence happens everywhere@@xgolden610
It’s been happening to us for 75 years!!!!!!
Yes, 75 years of illegal israeli occupation on the Palestinians can, thats the root problem anyway.. occupation.
“Calm is when Gaza is bombed, villages are invaded, homes are bulldozed, journalists are shot, ambulances are attacked, mosques are vandalized, schools are tear-gassed, and Palestinians are massacred
Calm shattered is when Palestinians finally respond”
no calm can exist with a boot on a people’s neck, only desires for freedom
Even if you know nothing about history the story of her cousin alone tells you why the 7th of october happened
This was real honset conversation that needed to be had.
Great word and work Emmanuel.
😢I’m not Palestinian. I’m amazed by the courage of the Palestinian people. It’s time the world to step up for human rights. 😢😢😢
No human rights when Hamas is involved!
As french Jewish, I am so soory Madame Erakat ... My grand grand parents got deported and killed by monster and I know that no one must go like this again ... Im soo sorry ...
No such thing as French Jewish wtf does that even mean...are you mixed heritage ? Are you mixed dna ?
Are you a European convert ? European converted into Christianity a middle eastern religion ... so maybe your ancestors still converted into judaism
Where's the line between religion beliefs and genetics
@@rediettadesse2828 ah ah ah, check definition of DNA before talking about it maybe ^^
Religion and DNA in the same sentence is hilarious 🤣
And there is no link between nationnality and DNA too.
Your comment is an absolut no sens ...
Thats fine, everybody got is ups and down.
We still love you
I think what they mean is they are Jewish of mostly French mix and they're family has lived in France for most of the diaspora. *Please correct me if I'm wrong btw!* Like my great grandparents where Iranian Jews. Like Ben Shapiro is a Russian Jew and Lithuanian Jew or how Gal Gadot is a Eastern European Jews. Etc etc Jews have been without their own homeland for thousands and thousands of years remember? And if I'm not mistaken all Palestinian Jews live in Israel now. From what I know there aren't many Jews left in Arab lands though. Most middle eastern Jews went back to Israel or live elsewhere. It makes you wonder whose ethnically cleansing who, but that being said I think like all humans there's bad apples everywhere. And I'm deeply sorry for what this lady went through. I'm deeply sorry for all of the innocent Palestinians who have died and I'm deeply sorry for all of the Israelis that died barbarically.
I do believe you could be both Pro Israel and Zionist and aso Pro Palestine.
I liked this episode so that more people could see and listen to Noura Erakat!!
Thank you, Noura. My heart hurts for the Palestinian and Jewish people. I pray for peace.
Beautiful interview. I pray for peace for her and her family. 🙏❤️ What a horrible story of her family that was killed on the way to a wedding. 😢 I do wonder if she feels it would be insensitive to ask “why” the Israeli government would respond to a Palestinian the way she implored us all to ask why Hamas did what they did to innocent civilians on October 7th. “If we don’t ask why…” Would that feel insensitive to her? All of these questions we ask of the other side we have to first ask ourselves.
Because Israelis are racist. We already know that. They are supremacists and the military is trained that way
I feel like maybe because she seemed more calm and less intense Emmanuel handed her or was able to hand her the more uncomfortable questions as when he was interviewing the other Israeli American author he seemed to play it more safe like he was afraid to upset her further. I felt like the other episode wasn't as uncomfortable with the questions. Then in this episode the questions were harder but yet I've felt more logical informative answers with less emo attached were given.
Also I'm kinda disappointed in Emmanuel he seemed not to have enough knowledge from his questions and his responses, but maybe it's good in a way cuz other people who are as less informed as him or know even less than him can ask the same questions and genuinely learn.
It’s because Emmanuel is proIsrael.
Beautiful work
Pulling at heart strings once again. History speaks for itself.
Great Interview. Noa and Noura's inteviews are great. Jews and Palestinians have, for different reasons, the same story. Hate and death.
Very well said 👏 👍
They don’t though, one is an occupying state the other is occupied, restricted movement, children are arrested, every other free years Israel has what they call “mowing the lawn” meaning killing Palestinians to remind them of their place..
Emmanuel, thank you for asking these questions calmly and compassionately. And thank you to your guest for responding calmly and compassionately. I am heartbroken for her personal loss, and for the subjugation of the people trapped in Gaza under the brutality of both the IDF and of their own Hamas leadership. It is incredibly tragic that she lives in fear for her own safety, with evil maniacs like that landlord out there (who is rightfully in jail and facing first-degree murder charges). Her answers, while heartfelt, are also admittedly biased (as every person with relatives in this conflict are) and based on her personal heart-wrenching experiences and perspectives.
Most American Jews, most American Palestinians, and most people around the world sincerely want there to be peace - genuine peace with both peoples living without fear. There are extremists in the Israeli government who promote awful policies of "settlements". And it would be immensely naive to view Hamas as anything other than a terrorist organization, whose singular mission (as stated repeatedly in their founding charter, in their current leadership's words, and most of all in their actions since 2007) is the literal extermination of 9 million Jews and other non-Muslims living in the region. It is irrefutably the origin of the phrase "from the river to the sea", despite effective co-opting by the PLO to tack on the phrase more recently "Palestine will be free" in order to sway global public sentiment.
The most important question Emmanuel asked, is near the end when he asks how to "practically" achieve peace. Tragically, your guest could not answer that question - not in practical, logistical terms. No one has been able to, on either side, for decades. That is the key issue here. How can Israel, with all of its horribly flawed governmental policies, logistically and practically tear down the walls that were set up after Gazan residents elected Hamas into power, while also protecting their 9 million Jewish, Christian and Palestinian residents (yes, there are many Palestinians living outside of Gaza and the West Bank) from a terrorist organization funded by Iran. When Israel ripped its residents out of Gaza in 2007, the international community pushed tons of resources and equipment into Gaza in hopes that schools and hospitals would be rebuilt. Hamas, in complete control, instead used that concrete and those resources to build a network of tunnels and means by which to use their own residents as human shields.
This is not a simple good versus evil problem. It's tragedy beyond words, especially for the 2 million innocent Palestinians trapped in Gaza. Anyone who tells you it's one side being evil and the other side being good is either naive or deliberately lying to you. The modern age of social media only exacerbates this problem, when facts are hard to verify because the conflicting reports are coming directly from the IDF (who have lied before) and from Hamas (who use lies as one of their primary weapons). The weaponization of misinformation is one of the primary tools used by Hamas, and has been for decades. This is an awful situation with unspeakable acts of horror levied against both populations, and I have yet to hear from either side any practical and logistical means by which to end the persecution of Gaza's and the West Bank's residents while also preserving safety for the millions of people in Israel. Notice this doesn't even begin touch upon the added layers of complexity in the geo-political interests and influences by Iran and the United States. There's a reason this is the most complex conflict in world history.
Now watch me get death threats...
Heyy, pro-Palestinians (THE PEOPLE), zionist Israeli Jew (currently in Israel) here. Loved your comment and the way you showed a glimpse of the actual complications and nuances that exist to this crisis. This isn’t a fairytale, it doesn’t have a happy simplistic beginning, middle and probably even end. I can proudly say I have no f*cking clue on how to end this in the least horrible way but I do believe in the power of actual conversations that influence your beliefs and who you are in this world in a constructive way. It’s so much easier to just hate and point a blaming finger towards anyone but yourself than it is to listen, reflect and work together rather than against each other.
@@noazelinger5396 I am so sorry for the horrors that you are also enduring. I hope you are able to find some measure of peace and safety throughout this conflict.
@@longbordr5252 thank you. I pray for better, peaceful days and for humanity to be restored in all of us. Also that everyone stop hating everyone
This should be the top comment. You said the complexities in the situation. You have my gratitude.
Well summarized. There is way too much over simplification….this vs that/right vs wrong/etc. It’s naive as you said. Of course, on the surface, people see tragic videos of destitute people being bombed & it triggers sympathy. We should have sympathy BUT this is so much bigger than that. There is a reason other Muslim nations don’t open their borders to Gaza….Hamas. They won’t allow Hamas either. She said “one nation “ for all which means no state of Israel. That feels an unreasonable demand.
Good job on this talk.
New follower, bravo! Enjoyed the conversation
Nour as Palestinian I’m proud of you ❤️ I love you xx
Noura, Even in the West Bank I felt like in the Prison just one the bigger territory. All those check points, harassment at the airport when entering the Ben Gurion airport, I did not feel comfortable at all. I love this sentence you said "sanctity for all civilian life".
Yes Jews have sanctity for human life. The check points exist bec too many of nouras fellow palestinians have no respect for life and commit terror attacks in israel
Including her cousin @@miriamfox9127
What an amazing lady. Thank you so much for your courage and determination.
I love this Podcast Ancho is amazing with ooen-ended questions and articulate when speaking.
This interview should have been longer
How about having Noura and Noa together for Uncomfortable conversations? It was difficult to train myself to not bang my head against the table on Noa's assertions that it was Palestinians who refused a peace settlement. Does it not occur to Noa that maybe the "terms" were unacceptable to the Palestinians?!!!
Yes the terms were unacceptable bec they want all of the land! We are talking about territory the size of new jersey! Have u ever looked at the map od arav states?!
The Arabs were offered ALL of the West Bank (by the way, home to Jews for 3000 years) except for 5% which was a security border between what would have been the Palestinian State and Israel. The truth hurts to know when you are prey to propaganda.
What do you think is the point behind a peace agreement? Two conflictng sides sit down to come up with an agreement to end hosilities.
Awesome presentation showing both sides of Israel/Hamas war with truth and compassion!
Thank you brother for being consistent and hearing both sides of the story. May God bless you with guidance and the true message of Jesus, who walked on the land of Palestine. 🇵🇸
And also dont forget that Jesus was a Jew and that the land thats being fought over has always been the land of the Jews.
@@josearguello4523 Also don't forget that Jews do not believe in Christ, and they will be going to hell at this point. Maybe pray for them? Or maybe they are right and we are all going to hell... I wish I had the answers.
He was a muslim by faith, someone who submits to their Lord ... far more important to what race you belong to.
@@DR-ge8hp yea that is the Christian perspective regarding salvation and maybe one day we’ll know who’s right🤷🏻♂️ but that doesn’t really have anything to do with that land belonging to Jews thousands of years before there was a “Palestine”, that’s an easily provable fact that there seems to be a lot of misinformation about.
@josearguello4523 do your history brother ... there was NO Israel before 1947 ... they were all Palestinian Jews liv8ng side by side with the muslims ... check out Mea Shearim in Palestine ... there you will find the real Jews who call Palestine their home as well as abiding my the laws of Moses correctly.
6:06 When do you allow yourself time to be human? That broke my soul. 7:07 Don't ask why, ask How did we get here? I still wonder how its a religion vs a natiionalty? 3 nautical miles on their own shore lines is CRAZY. My freedom doesn't take away from your freedom. AMEN.
Thanks Emmanuel for sitting down with both Noura and Noa.
A big red flag for me Noura’s encouragement to ask “why” with regards to what happened on October 7th. There is no good reason or justification for what happened. It doesn’t matter if someone was tortured, there is never reason to act such a way in order to get revenge. God is the only just avenger.
What has happened with both Palestinians and Jews is terrible, sad, and heartbreaking, and we should try to understand and empathize with each others’ hurts, not justify what caused them.
I was like wait, I know Erakat and I know Acho is this an actual interview?
Didn’t know you had this depth, thank you. Free Palestine
There's so many casualties in this brutality, not just Israeli or Palestinian. It's just a massacre responded to with another massacre. And the breakdown of WHAT Gaza is, on the words of a Palestinian, is mind-blowing to hear for the first time. An Open-air prison. Never would that stand in America, or so I would hope. Imagine being told you can live in your city but you can't leave it without military approval. You work, buy, eat, drive, watch, interact with ONLY what is permitted to be within those borders, and you could be harshly punished if you break these laws.
That happened to the population with Japanese ancestry born not only in the United States, but also born in other parts of the continent, like Peru, during WWII. After Pearl Harbour. US troops took them away, and put them in concentration camps in several states, such as California, Arizona and others.
She left out a few important facts. In 2005, Israel handed over Gaza to the Palestinians. They forcibly removed Jewish settlers and they removed all their military. Essentially, the Palestinians got exactly what they wanted: their own land with no Jews and no Israeli military. What did they do? They democratically elected a radical terrorist organization (Hamas) to run the place. Hamas has turned it into an open air prison and war zone. Hamas has taken valuable resources and spent them on acquiring weapons and building a new of underground tunnels. Hamas has also used the civilians as military shields. That is entirely the fault of the Palestinians.
@@micaelapesantes6561 And it's still happening to the Palestinians today.
This is not true Gaza IS NOT an open air prison! This is a lie repeated by noura and others like her. Gaza has 2 borders, 1 with egypt and 1 with Israel. Some gazans work in israel. Supplies enter gaza from the israeli side as does water and electricity. Why egypt dsnt help their arab brothers is anyones guess.
Unimpressed doesn’t begin to explain my reaction to this interview. Hamas wasn’t mentioned one time by this woman. Its highly relevant given that Egypt also enforces the blockade of Gazans because they have a terror problem. Egypt spent decades fighting terror and they don’t want the cancer that is Hamas spreading within their borders either. Her clear and deliberate choice not to address the terror group that is deeply entrenched in that land when that group’s entire mission is to exterminate all Jews did nothing to help the Palestinian cause. To fail to condemn Hamas or even to simply acknowledge that everyone who disagrees with jihadists is threatened was a very big miss on her part. The only people she impressed were people who already do not believe Israel has a right to exist.
Preach!
Absolutely. 💯
Yes!!!
Stop it.
Oppression is Oppression.
Free Palestine 🇵🇸
Not one single mention of what Hamas did on October 7th or that she feels terrible for what they did. Plus all of the things about Israel keeping them in a prison are completely false! Hamas is doing those things to them, not Israel. She is either extremely brainwashed, ignorant and uninformed or a gigantic liar and terrorist supporter.
The contrast between these two women is striking. What an amazing woman Noura is. So hearfelt, so eloquent, so honest. Palestinians just want to be seen as human and worthy of consideration. And plenty of Jews (myself included) agree with their plight.
Omg am in tears as I watch this what the hell .
Wow. Not enough questions, Acho. Not enough definitions. Define “Palestinian,” “Zionist,” “Israeli,” ask about Hamas and Hezbollah. What is the polar opposite of “Zionist.” How much should 1949 inform 2023? Why was there an “Arab-Israeli War” at that time to begin with?
Noa Tishby better be watching this and doing some serious soul-searching
She isn't a self-hating jew or denies that land belongs to her like you do.
@@Malgus87this intolerance and this religious crap is a part of what's keeping this conflict going.
@xgolden610 Stay in your lane. Muslims are the ones keeping this going, not Jews.
Isreal is just protecting its own existence, and last time I checked, Isreal needed the air dome to prevent the religion of peace from sending peaceful rockets.
I'm not denying that we have a right to live in our ancestral homeland. In fact, I've gotten in trouble in far-left spaces for defending that right.
What I'm saying is that it's the Palestinians' ancestral homeland too and we don't have a right to kick them off it to found an apartheid ethnostate. There's nothing antisemitic about saying Palestinians deserve the same right to freedom, safety and being able to live in their homeland that Jews do.
@@anthonybencivengo6901I'm a liberal but the far-left jumps in head first without doing any research. They are just as bad as the MAGA people who think Trump is Jesus and you can't say they didn't say that because I have seen and heard it myself.