NFL Week 18: The Overreaction Monday Podcast with Rich Eisen & Chris Brockman - January 8, 2024
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- Опубликовано: 17 ноя 2024
- A weekly staple on ‘The Rich Eisen Show’ since 2018, ‘Overreaction Monday’ is now also an extended podcast with Rich and Chris Brockman debating the latest in the NFL. Today’s topics:
1:30 - Bills are going to the AFC Championship game
5:10 - Neither 1-seed is making the Super Bowl
6:55 - Trevor Lawrence is not the QB we thought he was when drafted #1 overall
10:20 - Justin Fields has played his last snap for the Chicago Bears
16:20 - CeeDee Lamb should be Offensive Player of the Year
20:00 - One conference will see all higher seeds win in Wild Card Weekend
23:00 - Belichick will be a playoff coach next season
26:00 - The Rams have the best backup QB situation of any playoff team
30:30 - Reviewing Brockman’s past predictions
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15 years ago it was uncommon for rookie QB to start a game. The expectation is unrealistic. Everyone wants a phenom rookie because you get all the upside and don’t have to pay. It’s resulting in a lot of trash teams because you miss way more than you hit
Or the fact that most of the QBs from our memory either sat behind, or had on the clip board, high caliber veterans teaching them along the way. Rodgers had Favre, Tom Brady had Bledsoe. Of course there are outloers though like Drew Brees or Rivers.
Amen. Thats exactly why there is subpar performance from most of them. They need a good 2 years behind a vet. Period.
@@BroMo-dl6mmlook at how gappy those years are. Thats why its not a guarantee…thats his point.
The difference is a couple of those guys listed had really rough rookie seasons and their teams and the media didn’t panic because of it. People these days forget that you aren’t a top drafter because you’re just a QB away in most cases, top drafted QBs are usually the first step in addressing a bad team, not the final piece
@@BroMo-dl6mm You forgot Luck.
It’s been a week and the Ravens are already underrated
This is exactly why Lamar said they were the underdogs
Love it! Keep sleeping on the Ravens and they can watch us in the SB!
Nope.Just not expected to beat the Niners.
Good, that's the way it needs to be for Baltimore to win.
I've been saying Ravens to the SB by week 12. But this 2 weeks of rest I think may come back to haunt them.
I think the most impressive is the rookie receiving record would fall. That record has stood for 63 years and THIS is the year it happens? That's uncanny, Chris!
Definitely agree. The Lamar one is really not that impressive. He's already an MVP winner, and his offense got better. Why wouldn't he be at least a finalist?
Well there is extra games now
Yup that rookie record was set with a 14 game season.@@wuzi7049
@@wuzi7049Yeah. For me, records don't mean much when they are accomplished in extra games
Lawrence started 8-3 and finished 0-5. The 1 win the jags in the last half of the season was with Beathard. That's brutal
He wasn't that great, even when they were winning.
The should have kept Rourke, big mistake. I saw what he can do in the CFL and the NFL preseason.
49ers broke them
They were never the same after that smackdown they received from the Niners.
@@craigburner1296😂
I don’t know how CMC is not OPOY. Yards from scrimmage and TD leader
He will be OPOY
Yes. It seems like an odd argument doesn’t it
If he somehow becomes MVP, then he won’t be OPOY.
*_IF._*
Ceedee lamb is easily stoppable.
-buffalo bills
Who is more valuable to their team, CMC or Lamar? I would argue neither team wants either injured, but the 49ers would fare MUCH better without CMC, than Baltimore would without Lamar. Hence Lamar is more valuable. Jackson for MVP.
Love this show
Me too. I also love it when Rich Eisen and Kurt Warner call games. And this show is awesome.
The whole media should apologize to Joe Namath for trashing him when he said Zach Wilson wasn't the answer early in the season. Haven't heard one apology yet lol. Just goes to show maybe players who played and are legends are legends for a reason and actually know something 🤷♂️
Joes Super Bowl was a scam tho. Dude doesn’t really know ball. I do agree with his take on Wilson tho
Small miss, but no mention of Chase on the discussion of pre season top 5 is an insane oversight 😅
Lol yeah that was insane
Chris those season takes were fucking fire, well done man
Really enjoyed the season long recap, loved the recap cause I remember watching the initial episode.
The end segment was great!
An unexpected surprise that I didn't know I needed until now.
What Stroud is doing is insanely impressive, especially with a rookie head coach. Even Mahomes sat on the bean during his rookie year (minus the last game of the season)
mahomes had a proven quarterback in alex smith ahead of him, stroud has davis fucking mills lmfao, and case keenum but he isn't any better lol
@@danielgravino The Alex Smith situation is pretty rare. That a vet QB, who had recently been taking his team to the playoffs (granted then losing) would stick around for a final year and be happy to coach up his replacement. But getting back to Stroud, what that team is doing given the rest of the roster, cool stuff, and my god how does David Tepper feel, having taken Bryce Young.
New to watching this show, and wow, it's a winner. Intelligent analysis with a good dash of humor, and none of that idiotic "Bro" posturing that too often infects sports talk. Refreshing.
These overreaction shows are the best companions to the best show in sports! These takes are absolutely delicious.
Rich, I'm sure you know that the one's that are the more "off the rails" are what make's the show great!
All six games have interesting stories to them. I can't wait until next Monday, when I will hear how the games turned out.
Rams are my dark horse to make it to the superbowl.
Na they not getting past the Lions I wanna see Lions get revenge on the Cowboys
There's a guy up in Cincy that should have been among your WR discussion.
Couldn’t believe they missed him! I was screaming Chase! As a ravens fan!!!
Seriously, at the start of the season, he was easily top 3. He was the 1st WR off the board in my fantasy league.
Chris was so so proud of himself. and he deserves it.
Rich is in love with the Bills
Me too
Put big money on the bills at +650. This is the year.
At least Rich and the rest of the Jets fans have an actual NY team to root for 😮
@douglasdaly1727 be nice, they've suffered enough
At least they've been to four super bowls that's more than most
Rich is dead wrong about Fields. The Bears moving on from him is definitely not an overreaction. it may not happen, but it's become a reasonable opinion if not a likely outcome.
Like the ringer talked about, it’s the resetting of the contract that will sway them
Damn Chris earned a like on this video with those pre season takes. Crazy how many were even close
For the love of god Tampa Bay was never 6-6 during their Super Bowl run with Brady. They were 7-5, have heard multiple analysts say they were 6-6 before running the table.
So you’re saying they were six and six at one point?
This. They ended 11 and 5, so they could never have been 6 and 6 at any point.
The Football World wants Lions-Browns
Redemption Bowl! Let's goooooo!
That would be cool. Easy to root for them both.
Maybe the Jags just need some better linemen...on offense and defense.
Finally back in the studio❤
Rich and Chris = Entertainment gods!
Trevor is what people expected Purdy to be and vice versa.
Lawrence has been good but not great, gotta Remember the hype with him was all time high.
Poetic. 1st pick and last pick.
He is nicks 2nd favorite behind baby mahomes@@scruffd0g193
Purdy on another team would just be another guy.
Kyle made Matt ice a MVP
Kyle had Jimmy G take his team to the Super Bowl
Kyle has Mr irrelevant looking like a Super Bowl champion.
He is a HUGE part of his success
@@Drewswaggy Kyle got lucky. The Jimmy G/ Trey Lance mess would have buried most teams.
Impressive predictions Chris
These are the spiciest hot takes you've had all year. Some of these are PREPOSTEROUS
Lets go Rich!!! Go Bills
Enjoyed this guys!
I think the Texans have a good shot to win one or two playoff games. They have been competitive in almost every game.
AS a Bears fan I am tired of losing to the Packers because their coach and QB are better than ours. Get Harbaugh. Draft a new QB. Trade Fields -- he is 0-6 against them.
Your owner is your problem. Nothing will change until that does.
Harbaugh is not the answer
Cry baby. You’ve had this mindset since the late 80’s and where has that gotten you? Go Pack Go!
You really don’t see Fields as having potential if they get him another top wr and some line help?
@@Bleepbloopblappp I do not. Johnny LuJack had better stats over 17 games.
16:27 CMC is OPoY! More yards, more TDs, and in more ways! And did so on a team with 3 other players with 1k scrimmage yards including Aiyuk with nearly 1400 yards and Kittle with 1000 yards.
Agreed. Lamb made a push but CMC was insane this year.
Kyren Williams missed 4 games, 5 including Sunday and barely finished 3 in rushing. Also was the backup originally because Cam Akers was supposed to be the guy. He starts game one he beats cmac 🤷 it is what it is
Also broke the goats td record
@finalflash6074 but he didn't though so you typed all that for nothing😂
@@FINALFLASH1988 maybe, but you can't guarantee it. you can't give him accolades as the leading rusher based on a projection. McCaffrey actually played and IS the leading rusher and leading in Yards from Scrimmage. Can't take it away because your guy happened to be injured.
Congrats rich
Brock man did great on those preseason predictions
How dare you?LOL man you guys are raw. Love it
Rich I disagree. Fields has lost all confidence in the organization.
To have the opportunity to secure your job for the next 2+ years and you go out and score 9 points, have under 200 total yards against an okay defense without their best corner.
Jaire played lol
@@izik7220 my b. Thought he served his suspension this week.
Chris Brockmann looks like Darth Vader in Return of the Jedi after Luke takes off his helmet at the end of the movie.
As a chiefs fan im happy Rich has jumped onto the mafia tables. Yo8 have to be committed to be a chiefs fan
Look at you guys with your matching shirts! 😎
Why do they all forget Mike Evans???? Will be a first round Hall of Famer!!
Didn't mention Stefan Diggs, either.
@@mathewfullerton8577probably cause Diggs disappeared this season after the beginning
It always blows my mind when there’s a discussion about the top wide receivers how many analysts leave Amon Ra St Brown out. There’s a quick blurb here and there how well he’s doing, but very seldom does he make the list of the “elite” WR’s… 119 Rec 1515 yards this year and not a starter in the Pro Bowl. His first 3 seasons he’s caught 315 passes for 3588 yards…just first year he only started 9 of 17 games (still played, but only started 9) -- over the last 3 seasons combined hes had more receptions than CeeDee and Jefferson, but he doesn’t make most lists. The kid’s an absolute beast.
Mike Evans is always overlooked in that conversation also.
30:15 - Key and Peele!! Ah the memories....
Brockman doing his job! Rich you need to give this guy a raise. I’m actually considering what Belichick in Atlanta would look like. Just need a QB but maybe we get Penix or Nix at 8? And maybe we bring Pioli back to the building for a reunion? Then you got about 3-5 years to figure out your coaching situation Mr Blank. In the meantime this will be a blast!
PS I like the Falcons chances with Wentz better than Ridder this year.
Rich McKay what are you even doing?
Wentz has a lot of bad baggage hype, true or not.
I'm a die hard chiefs fan. And I think they got us. I'm for Josh this year. He deserves it more. He has the heart. ❤ much love to both teams
One thing I'll say about this Jacksonville squad is we saw something similar with the Sacksonville year, where I think this is a team that didn't live up to its own internal hype cycle. I think when you fall short like that with still a chance to win and you're in its an indictment on many levels not just QB. It makes me think of Joe Theismann when he got one of his first real chances with the Redskins actually, they started out hot and had an epic collapse at a team level. But following that season, those 'Skins teams became very good teams that competed for and won championships and Theismann was a big part in that. My point being I agree with Rich and I think this could be a good thing for everyone involved in the organization. This is a team that could be a lot better next year because of this adversity then that Sacksonville squad and Lawrence could be a big part in that. I certainly believe he has more of an impact on this teams chances then a Blake Bortles did in the same circumstance. But also, I don't view this Jacksonville squad as driven by emotions as that Sacksonville year was by many personalities that didn't handle the adversity well.
How bout Bills & Phins in Orchard Park for the AFC Championship game
This show had me laughing several times.
Probably pretty typical for a bozo 😂
I have Trevor Lawrence as No.15 on my list of Top QB's in the NFL.
Baker Mayfield > Trevor Lawrence. Just saying
Fun final list of old picks by Brockman.
Buck was 7-5 after Chiefs game and finished 11-5
I don't think Belichick would want to live in LA. I could see him going to Atlanta.
Yes, Josh Allen is the epitome of the eternal existential Ying Yang dichotomy of all human existence...
The Lawrence talk is crazy. The team screwed up by not benching him and getting him healthy when he hurt his ankle at 8-3. He never got an opportunity to heal, he was never right after the ankle sprain.
Wouldn't matter. Trevor ain't him
He refused to sit, he wasnt gping to sit
Still didn't have lot amazing games
@@zacknelson8918Dolphins or Texans won't be at the superbowl 🤣🤣🤣😆😆😆
@@Chris_1300the Dolphins will but probably not the Texans
Funny how golden boy Lawrence needs more time but Justin Fields gets shipped off with 1 less win than Trevor
@chameleon6576A playoff win against a Brandon Staley coached Chargers team isn’t that impressive. Especially when Lawrence threw 4 first half ints. If LA has even an average coach that’s a loss 99 times out of 100.
Well yeah, Fields sucks, Lawrence can at least game manage
Fields is outright bad. He can’t read a defense
@chameleon6576it’s as impressive as going down by 27 in the first place is repulsive.
@chameleon6576 yeah well he finished 0-5.
Cooper Rush is the best back up QB in the playoffs.
Tyreek Hill and a house afire is an interesting comparison given that his house caught on fire last week.
please have a running score for the correct predictions!
Niners lost due to missing a 38 yd field goal and a extra point. Shut up.
This show is gold, consummate professionals excelling above the rest 🫡
It will never happen, but as the Bears, I would heavily consider trading the first round pick, trading Justin Fields, and picking up a bridge QB in FA. Flacco, Rudolph, Minshew, Brisett, and Tyrod are all free agents (this gives them the captial to attract a good coach and use those picks in the next draft). Alternatively, you could go after Cousins and use those picks to get some NFL ready talent immediately.
The 49ers blew out so many teams that before Purdy was sat for week 18 he had already rested 4 fourth quarters. The dude essentially only played 15 games. Hes the MVP.
“Tyreek hill started as a house of fire” 😬
… and then he choked. More word play there 😏
I’m glad the media is overlooking the Steelers helps me sleep at night!!! Lets go mason!
5:35 the injuries to playmakers caused the "weird season" this year
I don't know how you miss Jamar Chase as a top receiver before the season started, but you guys will surely fuel Chase's fire for next season.
35:05 Nacua didn't break the 63 year old record because that record is a 14 game record and Nacua took 17 games to better it. So that 14 game record still stands and can only be broken if a player does it within 14 games.
Stfu already. He missed 1 game and you didn't even know. That tells me you are not a fan you don't watch him. If NFL accepts this as a record breaker in history who are you to say no? The NFL will increase regular games so nobody in NFL will break season record forever is that what you are saying? So all those record breakers in the past till this point should not be accounted because they all played more games than the previous seasons. Puka will be in history book whether you like it or not and you can wait till someone breaks his record to say that player is not eligible because he plays more games than Puka if you live to see it. Maybe it's another 63 years.
@@yl9941for real @motelghost coming in hot with the bs "technical truth" no one agrees or cares man
Tua will never be as good as Josh Allen in clutch spots. Accuracy and speed is cute and fun when it's working. You can have the most explosive offense in the league. What happens when that speed and fun fizzles out? Tua did what Tua usually does at the end of the season with the division on the line. There's your receipt Tua.
After moving to the USA, I guess I'm slowly becoming a Jags fan for reasons I cannot figure out but I've gotta say. Trevor Lawrence just never looks comfortable when he's playing, like he's got a bad case of the jitters. Big plays coming from him almost seem surprising at times. While I won't say he's terrible, I can't say honestly he looks like the qb of the future (at least right now). He has flashes of greatness sure, but those flashes seem to be few and very far between.
I could see rams upsetting niners
😂😂
They're McVay's kryptonite. I'd be super surprised, but it would be an all-time hilarious collapse. Rooting for this
I don't see that happening even if they play because I don't see the Rams beating the Lions.
The upset I do see is the Packers beating the Cowboys.
@@Mr.X2188 I have no doubts that the rams are beating the lions
Bills vs Detroit in the Super Bowl. One of these teams would have to win, right?
NGL Brockman coooked 😂 🔥
It took big Mike a while to get in a rhythm calling plays but he’s done great. I was disgusted in my fantasy draft when I had to settle for lamb in the 2nd round because Garrett Wilson, Amon ra and Kupp were sniped 3 consecutive picks before mine. It worked out okay for me.
I still find it funny how Daniel Jones never truly proved himself and got paid. Trevor Lawrence gets endless chances to not be criticized fully. Josh allen and Justin Herbert still get passes but we bury Justin Fields who plays for a franchise that never had a franchise QB like come on man
Danny Dimes had some good games and a playoff win. Seems like everyone keeps making excuses for Fields. Also, Herbert has won less than Jones, Burrow has missed his second season, Watson is out and Flacco is winning. What happened to Russ? No easy answers ever.
The Bears situation is so interesting. Picks 1 and 9. Over half of the top 10 picking teams need QBs and there are so many QBs in this draft. If they stick with Fields, they could get a massive haul for the #1 pick and surround him with more talent. But, do they believe Fields is their guy? That's the question.
As a Jags fan, here's the overreaction I've been contemplating which would be right up Chris' alley: Trevor Lawrence is the next Kirk Cousins
You should be so lucky. Check Cousins stats and injury history. 10+ seasons, top half or better every year I think, missed his first game to injury this year.
@@jimandersen3003 Yeah, I realize the comparison is not good in some ways. Depressingly enough for me I was trying to be optimistic :/
Justin Jefferson, CeeDee, Amra St. Brown, then rank everybody else
I’ve said for years….Kellen Moore was the absolute worst play caller for Dallas. He’s a stats guy, not a wins guy. Ask the Chargers if I’m not right.
CeeDee Lamb should WIN MVP. That's coming from and Eagles fan, BTW. If that award were true to it's name, he would win it. No team gives up more that the Cowboys do when he doesn't play or doesn't have a good game.
Look at the Steelers record when TJ Watt doesn't play? Literal definition of MVP.
3:10 "AFC Championship"?????? It's IMPOSSIBLE for the 2nd and 3rd sead to meet in the AFC Championship game 😂🤦♂️ THEY'LL MEET IN THE CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME!!!!
What did you say? They can't meet in the AFC champ game but they'll meet in the AFC Conference champ game? Get the point?
@@jimandersen3003 somehow you don't understand the difference between not having CONFERENCE in the title... Get the point 🤡?
Im honestly surprised Brockman didn't go out of his way to diss the Steelers
Who says the Patriots aren’t a playoff team next year if they draft their own CJ Stroud? The defense is elite
Amazing how people forget so quickly that Easton Stick and the 5 win Chargers almost eliminated Bills from the playoffs 2 weeks ago..
“I believe in the Flaccosance” aged about as well as your hairline Rich. 😂
Since the NFL is the new WWE, the divisional round will feature Buff vs KC and Browns vs Ravens
Cowboys vs Eagles and Niners vs Lions
Or Lions vs cowboys and niners vs eagles
I sort of expect the Bucs to beat the Eagles in round 1.
If the Lions beat the Rams and the Eagles beat the Bucs, then the 5th seed Eagles would face the 1 seed Niners. The only way the Eagles get another shot at the Cowboys, is if the Rams can beat the Lions. The 6th seed Rams would face the Niners and the Eagles would go to Dallas
@@abbajabba7 Yay!!!
@@Go__Birds Those would be classics.
T Law is overrated. Definitely not the QB people thought he would be. Minshew had less weapons to work with and a lesser coaching room and still had a better TD/int ratio. Lawrence is a turnover machine and doesn't offset that with TDs.
Cowboys fan here: if Cowboys lose in the wild card round and Jerry Jones decided a HC change is necessary, I would take Dan Quinn over Bill Belechek 100%. It wouldn't even a discussion.
Chris Simms had Ceedee Lamb as #1 WR going into the 2020 draft, he had Justin Jefferson as #2. He also did not put Jerry Juedy in the top 5 who most others had as #1.
As a 49er fan, I want the Rams, Packers and Bucs to win this coming weekend!
With all of the scenarios of the great stories of players facing their old team, how can they not bring up the juicy divisional matchup that has a good chance to happen? Flacco going back to Baltimore. Takes the Bills, Chiefs and Browns winning this weekend.
"The Bengals won't make the playoffs." That was brilliant.
I’m so glad you’re not thinking about the Steelers. It just gives them more determination to win. Sometimes it’s better to be the underdog.
Did he literally say Justin Fields isn't the player Daniel Jones is yet? I'd take Fields ten out of ten times and not think twice about it.
And lose 8 out of ten unless Jones is hurt, which destroyed his cred. But noone slams Burrow or Lamar when they get hurt and Jones has more playoff wins than Lawrence, Herbert or Murray.
For Bill Belichick to be a playoff coach in 2024, he'd either have to somehow get Tom Brady on a team or go to another team with a transcendent quarterback.
As a raiders fan, there’s no way in hell that bill belichick will be the raiders head coach next year. The fan base would riot and the players would boycott just as Nate Hobbs and Jack jones said after last nights game.
C.J. Stroud is a star will make it to the AFC Championship with the Bills.😊
Go Chiefs