Following racer tv from past 4 years and always waiting for new upload... RUclips suggested me this old video and I clicked and love it..... My love for Cafe racer started from 2010 when I first watched a movie called "tron legacy" when the main character of the movie sam rides Ducati s 1000 classic sports I just fall in love with that kind of bike and 3 years later royal enfield launched gt 535 which made in my country....... And I'm happy because not everyone can't afford Ducati but royal enfield is for every middle class guy like me... And cheap because it's made in India
I used to really hate these videos because the slow computer voice just really annoyed me, after learning i can playback your videos at 1.25 ive come to appreciate how much effort you put into your videos
Thank you my friend for sharing your perspective. I know that the Robotic voice can sound very bad for many. And that is why i have been trying to improve the speech during the last 2 years, and i think it is much better now. :) Cheers.
It is MUCH better now. Whatever process you use, you've gotten very good at it and it sounds great. I'm sure it's a ton of effort. Also, your videos are excellent. The content and execution are top notch. Been watching for years. Just got the KZ750 I've been dreaming of for the past 5 years. Heading out to the shop now to get started! Your videos have inspired and prepped me for a great experience!
Thanks Sir. Because of your videos I've purchased a BMW R NineT and now I'm turning it to a Cafe Racer. Your channel is the best motorbike outlet in the web!!! Keep the videos coming please!!!!!!
+Antonio Gantus Filho You're welcome my friend. I'm always glad knowing that my videos are very useful. Thank you, and Good luck for your R nineT project. Um abraço.
Thank you my friend for your kind comment. Yes, the voice on this video is still the first "robotic" voice i used. :) Cheers
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This so called "divine proportion" is refered to in design as the golden section or golden ratio and has been used for millenia. Renaissance artists like Da Vinci and Michaelangelo used it extensiely in their works, but it dates back to ancient times way before them. Great video!
the Astons Martin are the most elegant cars and the finish is impeccable. I am from Le Mans and I confirm that they are magnificent in ultra sport mode.❤😊
You are welcome. The only problem with your Yamaha, is the big fuel tank. You should see a very good solution for this. Check my video about the ducati Monster by Kikishop customs. Here is the link: ruclips.net/video/SakDXCUlkt0/видео.html Enjoy it and good luck for your project.
Thats the best part of this. On use the imagination an create something like a miracle. I know it is difficult but not impossible. Thank you and i love your channel. It's the best on youtube.
use this all the time, also we assert a visual weight to a design, it has a synchronous effect in our brains, also remember this principal works in 3 dimensions, and styling works by picking up cues and accents from all over the designs, so it all 'just works' every kid should be taught the golden spiral in school, it natures perfection : )
You are one of the few who still appreciate the character of this robotic voice made by software. It is artificial, but has lot of personality. Thanks for your kind words.
Por tu nombre supongo que hablas español es cierto pero esa formula esta en toda la naturaleza es impresionante ver que en las cosas que creemod insignificantes esta presente
Forgot the Golden Rule that was intensionally and consciously used some thousands years ago ... Ain't a new "science" thing - but an Ancient Greek analogy inspired by the perception of balance - beauty - lightness - analogy - the proportions that empirically were most pleasing the eye and sense of perfect form .... Ain't no Aston intension - though I bow to this modern day work of art - there's a Parthenon before it ..!
Yes, I know all that you said is true. And that is exacly why i made a part 2 of this video. Here is the link: ruclips.net/video/nFPuBoZ100A/видео.html
This is interesting and makes me want to see how it applies to choppers and other styles... also, makes me want to see if the stretched swingarm sportbikes and other customs I don't like still are in 1,618.
Your comment is also interesting. I Hadn't thought to apply this formula in other styles of bike.But one thing is certain. Only the most beautiful cars in the world confirm the divine proportion.I have already tried this proportions on ordinary cars, and didn't work.Thanks for your comment.
1.618 is a good one, but it's not the only number. Repetition of ratios is more important. The various combinations of the golden ratio go much further to show that it is the repetition and relationship that really matters. And ultimately, to me, the cafe racer is about form as an expression of function. The mechanical purpose of the cafe racer is to subtract weight and achieve the greatest speed from an engine of given size. It may well be that the golden ratio yields a lighter bike, but I would propose that there are a number of repeatable ratios that can yield a visually pleasing result.
+Andrea Marangia I'm really sorry, but the voice ID that i'm using, is one of those secrets that i can't reveal. It took me a lot of time and research to find it. I hope you understand. Cheers.
I'm sure that a good looking cafe racer design will not "hurt" the handling.The divine proportion is just a mean to help getting good proportions on our bike.Thanks for sharing your comment.
Thanks for your kind words. But the problem with this voice(created in a Text to speech software), is that doesn't seem real to people who speak english everyday.
the best way is not to calculate of follow any rule.....its an art....if many like your art then you are good....if people will keep following rules, nothing new will be discovered.....one good example is the virago....nobody was using a virago before for a cafe racer untill i can not remember how many years back when one guy was able to make a beautiful virago cafe racer....cant even remember if its yellow or orange LOL
I understand what you're saying. But i think the Divine Proportion is a very good tool of orientation, and that is why most Architects, Artists and Professional Photographers use this "tool" all the time. :) Cheers.
To be honest, i never tried in a bobber. But i think if you divide the length of the gas tank by 1,618, you may get the right length of the seat. :) Cheers.
No problem. You are right about the pronunciation. That is one of the reasons that i changed of Voice software. Curiously, i discovered last year that in Italy, Moto Guzzi is pronounced as "moto Gutezzi". :) Thank you my friend for your comment. Cheers.
Thanks. But unfortunately, things are more complicated than most people may think. I use this "robotic" voice created by software, because i'm Portuguese, and my bad english accent (and voice), can ruin the documentary character that i like for my videos. I already tried a real american voice in one of my videos, but things didn't worked as i expected. Curiously, the robotic voice sounds very good for all non english natives. Cheers.
Michael Paniagua Well, all the measurements are out of scale. But the calculations are correct, because they were made using AutoCad Software. I didn't have the correct measurements of the bikes(And cars) when i made this video.But i think the application of the formula, and how it works, was correctly demonstrated in the video. Cheers.
I tried this with my build. And it's far to long. I feel like design is more subjective than calculated. But if it works it works, just didn't look right in my case
Can you help me with the meassures of a harley davidson street and ducati scrambler full throttle? thank you! Im not sure if its real all this but I rather use this method than nothing at all. (:
Bern DeVille As i said in the video(part 1 and part 2), this "Divine Proportion" can be applied in everything. It is used by many Designers, architects, painters and so on. It is a very good tool to achieve the right proportions of all objects.I know that this "formula" works fine in a cafe racer project. But i never tried in a scrambler bike.I didn't understand what you intend to do.Maybe transforming the harley davidson street into a Ducati full throttle look? Am i right?
Bern DeVille Well, to be honest with you, i wouldn't choose any of these 2 bikes.would be preferable to buy a new cafe racer ready, like a Moto Guzzi V7 Racer, or a Triumph Thruxton with some changes, or even the BMW Rnine T(Also with some changes).You just have to choose according to your tasteI recommend you to see this video before you decide.Here is the link: ruclips.net/video/0GcUQSX7F7s/видео.html
RACER TV I have a Triumph Bonneville Cafed out buy why did you leave the Ducati GT 1000 off the list its a beautiful looking bike Particularly with some of the modded ones ive seen around. Probably the more powerful one to. I don't know how it would stand up against the BMW but more power then the other two.
Eazy Rider Ooops. You are completely right. I forgot the Ducati GT 1000. Sometimes, it is difficult to answer all the comments i get in this Channel, And therefore, easy to fail in some of them. Thanks for your suggestion. Cheers.
Yes, i agree, but this number is still an excellent tool to reach the right proportions. But like you said, we still need the passion and good taste, to get the right shape. Cheers.
+Lestat Odagled The measures in this video are out of scale. The main idea was to demonstrate how to use the formula. I didn't have the real dimensions of those bikes, but the relation between the measurements shown in the video is real, and works fine like it was demonstrated. Cheers.
(How to calculate the proportions of your bike) I think this statement only leads to homogenous bikes that appear the same. This is just my option but I have been riding since 1967.
angeIoforte I recognize that this matter can be strange for some of us. But from my perspective, i only see it as a very useful tool to help the cafe racer build. But thanks for sharing your opinion. Cheers.
With all do respect, there's no formula for good proportions. We're way passed Renaissance now. The only "tool" for good proportions is a trained eye. Look at some Frank Gehry Architecture/ design. And If I may add, the best looking Aston Martins are from the last Century.
Proportion cannot be calculated...it is something you have to be able to visualize, I believe some people are born with the ability to gauge proportions while some can do an equally good job using numbers. Classical example is Audi R8 and a Ferrari F40 (I know they're different category of cars) both are great but I'm sure you can tell which was built using numbers and which was built using natural talent.
+RACER TV I love how you try to reply to every comment its very cool and makes you different from all the other you tubers you have yourself a new fan lol
+deathfalls69 Thank you my friend. I really try to answer all comments, but recently due the high number of comments, it has been hard keeping up. :) Cheers.
Riders are all different shapes and sizes so whatever. Build the bike how ever you like to suit your personality, Size and style how's that for a formula?.
Eazy Rider I understand your comment. But even so, you can always build a bike to suit your personality, and keeping it proportional to the rider's body. I think is harder to get a perfect cafe racer for small riders than bigger riders. Thanks for sharing your opinion. Cheers.
I have noticed that in some Countries(Like USA), there are different interpretations about this matter. Here in Europe, we use commas since middle ages. So from my perspective, i don't see any reason to change it. :) Cheers.
Sorry. I was deceived by google translate. According to google translate, Hood can be interpreted also as bonnet. But now I know that this isn't correct. Thanks for your comment.
Dear RACER TV- please accept my apologies. When I posted my first comment, I didn't realise you were not English but Portuguese. You are not deceived - google - being American in origin - uses the American term for what we English call a bonnet. I love the effort you have made in creating a really informative and interesting video and I want to encourage you to keep up the great work! I love your humility too - if I could communicate in Portuguese half as well as you do in English, I would be very pleased indeed! Take care, Gandalf.
and its no quinkydink that 1.618...is...611 twice...the 611 you can see,,and the 8 is 6,1,1...which is ephesians 611....put on the whole armor of god....ha check dat out.
Is this ratio for aerodynamics? Style? Both? Or something else? Possibly form? And i love the videos but style of voice bugs me...sounds like siri's brother.
Nicholas Ficca I recommend you to see the second part of this video. This ratio can be applied in almost anything, except in aerodynamics. It is like obtaining the correct proportion of all things, but it doesn't guarantee beauty or Style. It only helps.Sorry about this voice. But this was the best voice created by software, when i made this video. If you check my recent videos, you will see that i use a much better voice now.Thanks for your comment.
I did end up watching part two right after and it made more sense. I find the ratio very interesting and thank you for the help, I am restoring an old 1974 Yamaha RT3 and just researching what modifications I might make. (The voice for the video isn't that bad either) Thanks again.
Mark Thorne I just chose one of the most amazing cars built in the last years. It seems that you are the one who has the eyes closed. Why don't you see the Part 2 of this video. Maybe you will have a surprise.
Hello Racertv team, Greetings from India. I have one Rajdoot 175 cc 2 stroke single cylinder engine. I am working to transform it into a cafe racer. while researching, I stumbled on your page. god knows how much I thanked him for stumbling upon RacerTv. I thoroughly enjoy your content on motorbikes, especially cafe racers. I would like your or anybody around the world who is seeing this comment, help/opinion on my build. I will link the motorbike image in the comment. I have not started the build but I am starting to source parts for the build. like I was looking for new fuel tank and I stumbled on Yamaha SR500 fuel tank. let me know it your team or any could help. keep vrooming the RacerTV page. the link: auto-zer.com/photo/rajdoot-175/10/default.html for a close look to this bike just google "RAJDOOT 175". Regards
Lol. In what concerns to this voice, here is the problem.I cant use my own voice, because I'm Portuguese, and my bad english accent will destroy the documentary character that I like.This voiceover was made in a "text to speech" software.But I am already working on getting a good and real voiceover.Thanks for you comment.
eRaeonne I'm really sorry, but i can't share some of my secrets, because it took me a lot of time and effort to find this voice. But if you are looking for a good text to speech software, try the NeoSpeech. I hope you understand my point. Cheers.
It is because the voice is not real. I use this "robotic" voice created by software, because i'm Portuguese, and my bad english accent (and voice), can ruin the documentary character that i like for my videos. I already tried a real american voice in one of my videos, but things didn't worked as i expected. Curiously, the robotic voice sounds very good for all non english natives. Cheers.
There's nothing magical or profound in .618:1:1.618 ratio...A more profound ratio is the square root of Two, .707:1:1.41 ...this has a vastly more significance in mathematics. Then there is .7937:1: 1.2599, the so-called "Acoustic ratio".
Thank you my friend for your support. But i have to disagree with you about the divine proportion. I use the "divine proportion" almost every day on photography and interior design, and I can confirm that it works beautifully. :) Cheers.
most annoying voice ever, also surely the true proportions of ANY machine is down to builder and riders preference, i dont find aston martins particularly attractive, i believe 'scientists' calculated that marilyn monroe's proportions were the benchmark for ultimate feminine perfection and beauty, i find her average looking also..
bony tarnes If you see my most recent videos, the voice is now much better.I never said that this "divine proportion" is used in all bikes and cars.But it is a very good tool to be used in a cafe racer project, or other any designs. Please check the Part 2 of this video, and you will understand the importance of this "Divine Proportion".Just for my curiosity, if the Aston Martin isn't beautiful enough for you, Which kind of car do you consider beautiful?
How does 100, X 1,618 = 161,65? this is at 1min 32. Sorry just lost what little interest I had in your channel, unsubscribed!! Please other viewers , be real, it's a public video upload portal, there's plenty of real videos out there!!!
Daniel Cook Yes, it is a little mistake which cause no problem in the main message of the video. If you think that a small mistake like this is important enough to unsubscribe a channel, that only means you never liked cafe racer bikes.Try to spend several hours using Autocad Software to create all the measurements you saw in this video, and i'm sure you will understand why some mistakes happen.I agree with you when you say there's plenty of real videos out there. But you will find no other channel with so important tips to Cafe Racer Enthusiasts.By the way, only those who never did anything, criticize the ones who are trying to do something.
RACER TV Thank you for responding. I'm not to sure it's a little or small mistake as you have put. As to not liking cafe racers, well, that's incorrect , unsubscribing means I don't like your channel. I have spent many hours with 3d CAD programmes, and, no those blatant errors don't happen, although that might have to do with 'several hours' I have spent on them. I particular like the instant quote at the end though. I was going to make up a suitable one myself but re-read it and thought , yes I did something, and you haven't , by leaving this innacurate video up. Nice to hear from someone who answers there comments, appreciated. Daniel
Daniel Cook Hi Daniel, i can assure you that an error of 0,15 in that Aston Martin, is completely irrelevant, because the application of the measurements in the car is not completely accurate.I just wanted to show that in general, this formula works. And this is what really matters. Cheers.
Thank you again for responding. Have you read that post? Yes there always has been a formula for what 'appeals' to the human eye. It's pretty basic and not gonna go into the reasons why, to long, to dull, and the result is the same. I like ya self adore , if I may say, the aching beauty of cafe racers. I think it appeals to a very basic instinct, of geometry, proportion, and in my own opinion, the f~~k all that if it looks good and sounds good, its gotta be right. Sorry for being arsey , I have re subscribed. Dano
breg77 I'm sure that you didn't understand this video, and i'm also sure that you didn't saw the Part 2 of this video. This formula is not everything to make a good cafe racer. It is just a tool to help you achieving the right proportions of your ideas and creativity.Everything have to start with an idea. And this formula it will only help. And that's exactly why it is used for more than 500 years.
Alberto Lucà Sorry to hear that about the voice. But if you see my most recent videos, you will find a much better voice. I use this "robotic" voice, because i'm Portuguese, and my bad english accent (and voice), can ruin the documentary character that i like for my videos. I already tried a real american voice in one of my videos, but things didn't worked as i expected. Believe it or not, this robotic voice sounds very good and real, for all non english natives. Try to see all this, as one of the firsts youtube channels in the world, using a voice that isn't real. It couldn't be more original than that. :) Cheers.
RACER TV Honestly, since your grammar and vocabulary is so good, I think no-one would mind. But yeah, i get the point about the fact that everyone understands it. Makes the videos unbearably to watch for me though, pity.. :/
Nick Van den Broeck Sorry to hear that. I understand your point. But what about the voice on my recent videos? Some Racer TV fans say that is only a question of getting used to.
Sorry, but most measures presented in this video, are not the real ones. The main goal of the video, was only to demonstrate how to use the formula, therefore, it is irrelevant to have the right measures. But i have to clarify, that the ratio between all measures is correct, because everything was calculated using a professional drawing software called "AutoCad". Cheers.
Following racer tv from past 4 years and always waiting for new upload... RUclips suggested me this old video and I clicked and love it.....
My love for Cafe racer started from 2010 when I first watched a movie called "tron legacy" when the main character of the movie sam rides Ducati s 1000 classic sports I just fall in love with that kind of bike and 3 years later royal enfield launched gt 535 which made in my country....... And I'm happy because not everyone can't afford Ducati but royal enfield is for every middle class guy like me... And cheap because it's made in India
Thank you my friend for sharing your perspective. :) Cheers.
I used to really hate these videos because the slow computer voice just really annoyed me, after learning i can playback your videos at 1.25 ive come to appreciate how much effort you put into your videos
Thank you my friend for sharing your perspective. I know that the Robotic voice can sound very bad for many. And that is why i have been trying to improve the speech during the last 2 years, and i think it is much better now. :) Cheers.
It is MUCH better now. Whatever process you use, you've gotten very good at it and it sounds great. I'm sure it's a ton of effort.
Also, your videos are excellent. The content and execution are top notch. Been watching for years. Just got the KZ750 I've been dreaming of for the past 5 years. Heading out to the shop now to get started! Your videos have inspired and prepped me for a great experience!
I set the speed art 2.
Thanks Sir. Because of your videos I've purchased a BMW R NineT and now I'm turning it to a Cafe Racer. Your channel is the best motorbike outlet in the web!!! Keep the videos coming please!!!!!!
+Antonio Gantus Filho You're welcome my friend. I'm always glad knowing that my videos are very useful. Thank you, and Good luck for your R nineT project. Um abraço.
Those videos give so much joy make go back on time.Thank you very much great work.
You are welcome my friend. My pleasure. Cheers.
Interesting Video. Much to learn. But missing the Racer TV Voice I am addicted to. And as always and hopefully for ever: thank you for making Racer TV
Thank you my friend for your kind comment. Yes, the voice on this video is still the first "robotic" voice i used. :) Cheers
This so called "divine proportion" is refered to in design as the golden section or golden ratio and has been used for millenia. Renaissance artists like Da Vinci and Michaelangelo used it extensiely in their works, but it dates back to ancient times way before them. Great video!
+Leonardo Meléndez González Thank you. I'm glad you liked. Cheers.
Something about these videos just make you want to keep watching, almost an eerie effect to them.
matt ribeiro Lol. Well, if the videos make you feel good, keep watching them. :) Cheers.
its so fascinating.....i did't thought a number can make such a big difference.....once again thank you racer tv
You are welcome my friend. My pleasure. Cheers.
Refined science is like magic!
the Astons Martin are the most elegant cars and the finish is impeccable. I am from Le Mans and I confirm that they are magnificent in ultra sport mode.❤😊
Thank you my friend for sharing your perspective. :) Cheers.
this video (part 1 & part 2 ) really usefull for beginner Cafe Racer Builder like me, thank you much
Geri Centura I'm glad you liked. It is always a pleasure to help. Thanks for you comment. Cheers.
Thanks for the advice. Now I can applied this number to my project, a 1997 Yamaha XJ600.
You are welcome. The only problem with your Yamaha, is the big fuel tank. You should see a very good solution for this. Check my video about the ducati Monster by Kikishop customs. Here is the link: ruclips.net/video/SakDXCUlkt0/видео.html Enjoy it and good luck for your project.
Thats the best part of this. On use the imagination an create something like a miracle. I know it is difficult but not impossible. Thank you and i love your channel. It's the best on youtube.
Me ha encantado, definitivamente tal como se menciona ahora veo todo de manera distinta, me fasino muchas gracias por compartirlo con nosotros :D
jose arturo garza cruz Es mui agradable ver cuando la gente entiende realmente la importancia del mensaje de este video. Gracias por tu comentario.
GREAT PIECE OF INFORMATION...!!!
+Rolf Zen Eckell I'm glad you liked. Thanks for your comment. Cheers.
Boa dica,obrigado
If James Bond owned a motorcycle, it would be a café racer.
gmoore9449 Only if the Cafe Racer bike was as cool as it is. :) . Cheers.
gmoore9449 He would own a Norton for sure; more exclusive than a Triumph.
use this all the time, also we assert a visual weight to a design, it has a synchronous effect in our brains, also remember this principal works in 3 dimensions, and styling works by picking up cues and accents from all over the designs, so it all 'just works' every kid should be taught the golden spiral in school, it natures perfection : )
Thank you my friend for sharing your "Divine" perspective. :) Cheers.
Great one!
Excellente vidéo. Super utile, et introuvable sur le Web. Merci ✌
Thank you my friend for your support. :) Salute
2:47 that bike is amazing! I saw it online the other day too, and saved the picture.
Does anybody know who made it?
It's a 1969 HONDA CB750 ‘El Gato’ by Deranged Motorworks. Cheers.
Nice video, thank you bro!
+Matheus Marques I'm glad you liked. Cheers.
Great narration (and video). The guy sounds like a slightly tipsy near future artificial intelligence.
You are one of the few who still appreciate the character of this robotic voice made by software. It is artificial, but has lot of personality. Thanks for your kind words.
I love you RacerTV
@@RACER_TV I couldn't get that it was AI at first, feels like a middle aged man speaking.
looking this proportion and compare to my design hopefully next 2 years i can participate in DGR from Jakarta, Indonesia. Salam thx for this info.
Plastic surgeons take notes! good video!
+Branden Bunny :) Thank you for your support. I'm glad you liked. cheers.
Gracias Fibonacci
this is true, Leonardo Davinci used this formula in the Vitrubios man paint or sketch
+Harry Postres most of his work employs the golden ratio, and so does most of the renaissance art.
Por tu nombre supongo que hablas español es cierto pero esa formula esta en toda la naturaleza es impresionante ver que en las cosas que creemod insignificantes esta presente
Divine proportions? Works for me,like your style why change it if works?To make personal!
Nortoooooonnnnn!!
Thanks for the info. I have a kz200 I want to cafe.
Actually is golden mathematic sequence of plato!
Forgot the Golden Rule that was intensionally and consciously used some thousands years ago ... Ain't a new "science" thing - but an Ancient Greek analogy inspired by the perception of balance - beauty - lightness - analogy - the proportions that empirically were most pleasing the eye and sense of perfect form .... Ain't no Aston intension - though I bow to this modern day work of art - there's a Parthenon before it ..!
Yes, I know all that you said is true. And that is exacly why i made a part 2 of this video. Here is the link: ruclips.net/video/nFPuBoZ100A/видео.html
This is interesting and makes me want to see how it applies to choppers and other styles... also, makes me want to see if the stretched swingarm sportbikes and other customs I don't like still are in 1,618.
Your comment is also interesting. I Hadn't thought to apply this formula in other styles of bike.But one thing is certain. Only the most beautiful cars in the world confirm the divine proportion.I have already tried this proportions on ordinary cars, and didn't work.Thanks for your comment.
what unit we use for 1.168 meter or centimeter!
You are epic
Thank you my friend for your support. :) Cheers.
1,618 is even the magic number in art, even the lenght of ore own bodyparts ;) . Even the great Leonardo Davinci knew that...
Indeed. That is what i also said in the Part 2 of this video. Cheers.
1.618 is a good one, but it's not the only number. Repetition of ratios is more important. The various combinations of the golden ratio go much further to show that it is the repetition and relationship that really matters. And ultimately, to me, the cafe racer is about form as an expression of function. The mechanical purpose of the cafe racer is to subtract weight and achieve the greatest speed from an engine of given size. It may well be that the golden ratio yields a lighter bike, but I would propose that there are a number of repeatable ratios that can yield a visually pleasing result.
Thank you my friend for sharing your perspective. :) Cheers.
Hello RACER TV.. a question slightly OT: what do you use to create your audio / speech?
Thanks
+Andrea Marangia I'm really sorry, but the voice ID that i'm using, is one of those
secrets that i can't reveal. It took me a lot of time and research to find it. I hope you understand. Cheers.
Using The golden mean might give you a nice looking bike, but will it handle?
I'm sure that a good looking cafe racer design will not "hurt" the handling.The divine proportion is just a mean to help getting good proportions on our bike.Thanks for sharing your comment.
que motos más guapas
+Victor Manuel Corrales Rodriguez Gracias. Saludos.
I like this voice :) Dont know why but it reminds me movie Davinci Code ;)
great videos - keep it up !
Thanks for your kind words. But the problem with this voice(created in a Text to speech software), is that doesn't seem real to people who speak english everyday.
the best way is not to calculate of follow any rule.....its an art....if many like
your art then you are good....if people will keep following rules, nothing new will be discovered.....one good example is the virago....nobody was using a virago before for a cafe racer untill i can not remember how many years back when one guy was able to make a beautiful virago cafe racer....cant even remember if its yellow or orange LOL
I understand what you're saying. But i think the Divine Proportion is a very good tool of orientation, and that is why most Architects, Artists and Professional Photographers use this "tool" all the time. :) Cheers.
how would you apply this proportions to a brat seat?
To be honest, i never tried in a bobber. But i think if you divide the length of the gas tank by 1,618, you may get the right length of the seat. :) Cheers.
interesting
wow....!!!!
Great video and thanks for the info. Just want to add that "Moto Guzzi" pronunciation came out a bit wrong. (sorry, I'm not trying to be mean)
No problem. You are right about the pronunciation. That is one of the reasons that i changed of Voice software.
Curiously, i discovered last year that in Italy, Moto Guzzi is pronounced as "moto Gutezzi". :) Thank you my friend for your comment. Cheers.
Great video!! I wonder if this proportions apply to women >:3
YouThoughtThatWasFunny? Looool.
it does , its seen in everywhere in nature in someway or another
Great video. BUT, Why voice sounds so syntetical? is it not real voice?
Thanks. But unfortunately, things are more complicated than most people may think. I use this "robotic" voice created by software, because i'm Portuguese, and my bad english accent (and voice), can ruin the documentary character that i like for my videos. I already tried a real american voice in one of my videos, but things didn't worked as i expected. Curiously, the robotic voice sounds very good for all non english natives. Cheers.
Thanks for answer. Yes you're right, indeed syntetical english much more better for understanding.
Whats the unit of measurement? Inches?
What measurement are you using cm,inches...
Michael Paniagua Well, all the measurements are out of scale. But the calculations are correct, because they were made using AutoCad Software. I didn't have the correct measurements of the bikes(And cars) when i made this video.But i think the application of the formula, and how it works, was correctly demonstrated in the video. Cheers.
100 x 1,618=161,80 my friend
Fibonacci laws rule the entire universe
161.8 is Fibonacci Numbers
Phi - losophersphone...of course :)
The number of the universe..
Essentially, Gods thumbprint.
I tried this with my build. And it's far to long. I feel like design is more subjective than calculated. But if it works it works, just didn't look right in my case
Thank you my friend for sharing your perspective.
Can you help me with the meassures of a harley davidson street and ducati scrambler full throttle? thank you!
Im not sure if its real all this but I rather use this method than nothing at all. (:
Bern DeVille As i said in the video(part 1 and part 2), this "Divine Proportion" can be applied in everything. It is used by many Designers, architects, painters and so on. It is a very good tool to achieve the right proportions of all objects.I know that this "formula" works fine in a cafe racer project. But i never tried in a scrambler bike.I didn't understand what you intend to do.Maybe transforming the harley davidson street into a Ducati full throttle look? Am i right?
Both are new models and and I want to get one of those and convert it to a cafe racer
Bern DeVille Well, to be honest with you, i wouldn't choose any of these 2 bikes.would be preferable to buy a new cafe racer ready, like a Moto Guzzi V7 Racer, or a Triumph Thruxton with some changes, or even the BMW Rnine T(Also with some changes).You just have to choose according to your tasteI recommend you to see this video before you decide.Here is the link: ruclips.net/video/0GcUQSX7F7s/видео.html
RACER TV I have a Triumph Bonneville Cafed out buy why did you leave the Ducati GT 1000 off the list its a beautiful looking bike Particularly with some of the modded ones ive seen around. Probably the more powerful one to. I don't know how it would stand up against the BMW but more power then the other two.
Eazy Rider
Ooops.
You are completely right.
I forgot the Ducati GT 1000.
Sometimes, it is difficult to answer all the comments i get in this Channel, And therefore, easy to fail in some of them.
Thanks for your suggestion. Cheers.
IT IS NOT THIS FORMULA OF 1,618!! BUT IT IS THE PASSION N FLAIR THAT A DESIGNER HAS FOR HIS DESIGN!!
Yes, i agree, but this number is still an excellent tool to reach the right proportions. But like you said, we still need the passion and good taste, to get the right shape. Cheers.
Flair and passion make for messy paintings when we don't know the rules
we bend or break to acheive our goals and the desired results therein.
is it in Foot or Inch?
+Lestat Odagled The measures in this video are out of scale.
The main idea was to demonstrate how to use the formula.
I didn't have the real dimensions of those bikes, but the relation between the measurements shown in the video is real, and works fine like it was demonstrated. Cheers.
I see. Thank you sir!
(How to calculate the proportions of your bike) I think this statement only leads to homogenous bikes that appear the same. This is just my option but I have been riding since 1967.
The proportion of nature 3:5:8:13:21:34 .....
this feels like an Illuminati confirmed video
angeIoforte I recognize that this matter can be strange for some of us. But from my perspective, i only see it as a very useful tool to help the cafe racer build. But thanks for sharing your opinion. Cheers.
my opinion wasnt really saying anything about the video it was just an observation but i see that it works
With all do respect, there's no formula for good proportions. We're way passed Renaissance now. The only "tool" for good proportions is a trained eye. Look at some Frank Gehry Architecture/ design. And If I may add, the best looking Aston Martins are from the last Century.
I personally think the
Proportion cannot be calculated...it is something you have to be able to visualize, I believe some people are born with the ability to gauge proportions while some can do an equally good job using numbers. Classical example is Audi R8 and a Ferrari F40 (I know they're different category of cars) both are great but I'm sure you can tell which was built using numbers and which was built using natural talent.
Too much maths just doing it by eye lol 😂
+deathfalls69 The problem is when the eye isn't sure about what really works. Lol. Cheers.
+RACER TV I love how you try to reply to every comment its very cool and makes you different from all the other you tubers you have yourself a new fan lol
+deathfalls69 Thank you my friend. I really try to answer all comments, but recently due the high number of comments, it has been hard keeping up. :) Cheers.
Riders are all different shapes and sizes so whatever. Build the bike how ever you like to suit your personality, Size and style how's that for a formula?.
Eazy Rider I understand your comment. But even so, you can always build a bike to suit your personality, and keeping it proportional to the rider's body. I think is harder to get a perfect cafe racer for small riders than bigger riders. Thanks for sharing your opinion. Cheers.
It should be 1 point 618. You have a comma instead of a period. you have it written one-thousand-six hundred-eighteen.
I have noticed that in some Countries(Like USA), there are different interpretations about this matter. Here in Europe, we use commas since middle ages. So from my perspective, i don't see any reason to change it. :) Cheers.
really? didn't know that. Thanks for the info!
You are welcome my friend. My pleasure. Cheers.
Hood?! That was a bonnet my man. A 'hood' is what we call the roof on a soft top roadster.
Sorry. I was deceived by google translate. According to google translate, Hood can be interpreted also as bonnet. But now I know that this isn't correct. Thanks for your comment.
Dear RACER TV- please accept my apologies. When I posted my first comment, I didn't realise you were not English but Portuguese. You are not deceived - google - being American in origin - uses the American term for what we English call a bonnet. I love the effort you have made in creating a really informative and interesting video and I want to encourage you to keep up the great work! I love your humility too - if I could communicate in Portuguese half as well as you do in English, I would be very pleased indeed! Take care, Gandalf.
Gandalf606
No problem Gandalf. Thanks for the understanding, and also by your kind words.
RACER TV - you're welcome sir.
Ancient greeks mathematicians would had beautiful bikes...
100 x 1,618 = 161,8 *not* 161,65.
measure twice....cut once.
サムネの人ってデスランディングの人⁇
and its no quinkydink that 1.618...is...611 twice...the 611 you can see,,and the 8 is 6,1,1...which is ephesians 611....put on the whole armor of god....ha check dat out.
this damn vid aint loadin
There are probably many people seeing the video at the same time, Lol.
Golden ratio. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio
I measured the back end of my mother in law, she should be 9 feet tall to be in proportion!
Loool.
I believe I saw this number before π
100*1,618 isn't 161,65.. it's 161,8
just sayin. good video though!
yap, my mistake. Sorry for that. But the formula still works. :) Cheers.
Is this ratio for aerodynamics? Style? Both? Or something else? Possibly form? And i love the videos but style of voice bugs me...sounds like siri's brother.
Nicholas Ficca I recommend you to see the second part of this video. This ratio can be applied in almost anything, except in aerodynamics. It is like obtaining the correct proportion of all things, but it doesn't guarantee beauty or Style. It only helps.Sorry about this voice. But this was the best voice created by software, when i made this video. If you check my recent videos, you will see that i use a much better voice now.Thanks for your comment.
I did end up watching part two right after and it made more sense. I find the ratio very interesting and thank you for the help, I am restoring an old 1974 Yamaha RT3 and just researching what modifications I might make. (The voice for the video isn't that bad either) Thanks again.
your calculation is wrong.... this is right 100 × 1618 = 161800
never heard so much rush ,if you think that Aston is beautifully you need to open your eyes . DB 5 OR DB 4 YES or a E Type yes they are real cars .
Mark Thorne I just chose one of the most amazing cars built in the last years. It seems that you are the one who has the eyes closed. Why don't you see the Part 2 of this video. Maybe you will have a surprise.
Hello Racertv team,
Greetings from India.
I have one Rajdoot 175 cc 2 stroke single cylinder engine. I am working to transform it into a cafe racer. while researching, I stumbled on your page. god knows how much I thanked him for stumbling upon RacerTv. I thoroughly enjoy your content on motorbikes, especially cafe racers.
I would like your or anybody around the world who is seeing this comment, help/opinion on my build. I will link the motorbike image in the comment. I have not started the build but I am starting to source parts for the build. like I was looking for new fuel tank and I stumbled on Yamaha SR500 fuel tank.
let me know it your team or any could help. keep vrooming the RacerTV page.
the link: auto-zer.com/photo/rajdoot-175/10/default.html
for a close look to this bike just google "RAJDOOT 175".
Regards
Bazi
sounds like stephen hawking
Lol. In what concerns to this voice, here is the problem.I cant use my own voice, because I'm Portuguese, and my bad english accent will destroy the documentary character that I like.This voiceover was made in a "text to speech" software.But I am already working on getting a good and real voiceover.Thanks for you comment.
RACER TV which text to speech software is this?
eRaeonne
I'm really sorry, but i can't share some of my secrets, because it took me a lot of time and effort to find this voice.
But if you are looking for a good text to speech software, try the NeoSpeech. I hope you understand my point. Cheers.
RACER TV Ok I understand, thanks for the speedy response
Nice idea, but i couldn't listen to that grating computerised narration D'oh !!!
Im not good in maths.
BS
Why is the voice always so strange?
It is because the voice is not real. I use this "robotic" voice created by software, because i'm Portuguese, and my bad english accent (and voice), can ruin the documentary character that i like for my videos. I already tried a real american voice in one of my videos, but things didn't worked as i expected. Curiously, the robotic voice sounds very good for all non english natives. Cheers.
You do not need a formula
Agree
Even tho it was imperfect, i liked the honda cb the best out of the bikes that he has shown in the last part of the vid
There's nothing magical or profound in .618:1:1.618 ratio...A more profound ratio is the square root of Two, .707:1:1.41 ...this has a vastly more significance in mathematics. Then there is .7937:1: 1.2599, the so-called "Acoustic ratio".
Car is car bro i dont give a shit about what sort of car is on the road.
I love the channel, but the Devine proportion is in the realm of conspiracy theory.
Thank you my friend for your support. But i have to disagree with you about the divine proportion. I use the "divine proportion" almost every day on photography and interior design, and I can confirm that it works beautifully. :) Cheers.
All those design suck
most annoying voice ever, also surely the true proportions of ANY machine is down to builder and riders preference, i dont find aston martins particularly attractive, i believe 'scientists' calculated that marilyn monroe's proportions were the benchmark for ultimate feminine perfection and beauty, i find her average looking also..
bony tarnes If you see my most recent videos, the voice is now much better.I never said that this "divine proportion" is used in all bikes and cars.But it is a very good tool to be used in a cafe racer project, or other any designs. Please check the Part 2 of this video, and you will understand the importance of this "Divine Proportion".Just for my curiosity, if the Aston Martin isn't beautiful enough for you, Which kind of car do you consider beautiful?
why it seems to me like PURE BULLSHIT!
bistakos1 It seams "PURE BULLSHIT", because you didn't saw the part 2 of this video.
How does 100, X 1,618 = 161,65? this is at 1min 32. Sorry just lost what little interest I had in your channel, unsubscribed!! Please other viewers , be real, it's a public video upload portal, there's plenty of real videos out there!!!
Daniel Cook Yes, it is a little mistake which cause no problem in the main message of the video. If you think that a small mistake like this is important enough to unsubscribe a channel, that only means you never liked cafe racer bikes.Try to spend several hours using Autocad Software to create all the measurements you saw in this video, and i'm sure you will understand why some mistakes happen.I agree with you when you say there's plenty of real videos out there. But you will find no other channel with so important tips to Cafe Racer Enthusiasts.By the way, only those who never did anything, criticize the ones who are trying to do something.
RACER TV
Thank you for responding. I'm not to sure it's a little or small mistake as you have put. As to not liking cafe racers, well, that's incorrect , unsubscribing means I don't like your channel. I have spent many hours with 3d CAD programmes, and, no those blatant errors don't happen, although that might have to do with 'several hours' I have spent on them. I particular like the instant quote at the end though. I was going to make up a suitable one myself but re-read it and thought , yes I did something, and you haven't , by leaving this innacurate video up. Nice to hear from someone who answers there comments, appreciated. Daniel
Daniel Cook Hi Daniel, i can assure you that an error of 0,15 in that Aston Martin, is completely irrelevant, because the application of the measurements in the car is not completely accurate.I just wanted to show that in general, this formula works. And this is what really matters. Cheers.
Thank you again for responding. Have you read that post? Yes there always has been a formula for what 'appeals' to the human eye. It's pretty basic and not gonna go into the reasons why, to long, to dull, and the result is the same. I like ya self adore , if I may say, the aching beauty of cafe racers. I think it appeals to a very basic instinct, of geometry, proportion, and in my own opinion, the f~~k all that if it looks good and sounds good, its gotta be right. Sorry for being arsey , I have re subscribed. Dano
What a nonsense to show a stupid car for 1/3 of the video.
Forget the math, use your eye.
If you don't know how to do that, math won't help.
breg77 I'm sure that you didn't understand this video, and i'm also sure that you didn't saw the Part 2 of this video. This formula is not everything to make a good cafe racer. It is just a tool to help you achieving the right proportions of your ideas and creativity.Everything have to start with an idea. And this formula it will only help. And that's exactly why it is used for more than 500 years.
RACER TV good proportion for what??
bistakos1
For the seat and for the fuel Tank and fairing, obviously. It seems that you just didn't hear what is said in the video.
if you don't have this proportion on a bike what you ll miss?
bistakos1
You will miss a nice and good looking proportional machine. And that's why the best designers use this number.
Please stop using that annoying fake voice, I want to keep watching but it's really hard, god...
Alberto Lucà Sorry to hear that about the voice.
But if you see my most recent videos, you will find a much better voice.
I use this "robotic" voice, because i'm Portuguese, and my bad english accent (and voice), can ruin the documentary character that i like for my videos. I already tried a real american voice in one of my videos, but things didn't worked as i expected. Believe it or not, this robotic voice sounds very good and real, for all non english natives. Try to see all this, as one of the firsts youtube channels in the world, using a voice that isn't real. It couldn't be more original than that. :) Cheers.
Maybe you are right haha
very good content though!!! :D
RACER TV Honestly, since your grammar and vocabulary is so good, I think no-one would mind. But yeah, i get the point about the fact that everyone understands it. Makes the videos unbearably to watch for me though, pity.. :/
Nick Van den Broeck
Sorry to hear that. I understand your point. But what about the voice on my recent videos? Some Racer TV fans say that is only a question of getting used to.
what unit we use for it metre or centimeter!
Sorry, but most measures presented in this video, are not the real ones. The main goal of the video, was only to demonstrate how to use the formula, therefore, it is irrelevant to have the right measures.
But i have to clarify, that the ratio between all measures is correct, because everything was calculated using a professional drawing software called "AutoCad". Cheers.