2022 Toyota Tundra vs Chevy Silverado - Which Pickup Pulls this Travel Trailer Better?
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- Опубликовано: 13 июл 2024
- We take a 2022 Toyota Tundra and Chevy Silverado to our local RV dealership to find out which tows this travel trailer better.
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Should’ve never tested the the optional 6.2 and the standard 3.5 together. It should’ve been the 5.3 vs 3.5 or the 6.2 vs 3.5 hybrid. Would’ve been a much more comparable test
Then the Tundra should offer an option that compares better. If you want to to actually use the truck, the Jap crap doesn’t have an answer
I really like the dad's more unbiased opinions. These guys are awesome.
Yeah, I caught that too. Dad has the middle of the road facts which I liked
I thought he was more biased to the tundra
Chevy all day long. Or the old tundra with the V-8. I have two of them.
You guys do a great job. Love this channel. Found you on TFL years ago and lived your style. Glad to keep following your content here.
Very interesting video. Thanks for taking the time to make it.
I’m curious about a more apples to apples comparison. Like the 5.3 vs 3.5 or 6.2 vs the hybrid also trim comparisons like high county vs the platinum and above. I think that would be a better video and comparison
Too many car/truck channels are afraid to make a choice, especially when some of the criteria are subjective. Not you guys. Keep it up.
Your channel is awesome!!! We have a Silverado and I don’t understand why I don’t see sway for you lol we drove the other day in 10 mph winds going 62 and we kept being pushed around with our 7600 gvwr TT. Anyways love what you share!!
Great Video!
Quality content guys
I guess tow hooks on the front of the Tundra is a subscription 😂.
Compressed coils are harsher and compressed leaf springs are smoother. The opposite is true unloaded.
Good review. Looks like The tundra had “E” load rated winter tires on that probably contributed to the rougher ride. Both great trucks! Hard to go wrong with any of the half ton trucks these days. Cheers!
Actually, the Chevy’s 22” wheels would create the stiffer ride. Even E class rubber flexes better than a metal wheel with a narrower sidewall.
Senior does the best unbiased reviews that I have found on the web. If the car or truck doesn’t have lots of cameras or a smooth ride, then Junior doesn’t like it.
the junior should stop eating macs
Lol.
As a former F-150 Ecoboost owner I'll never own a turbo motor ever again. I traded it in for a 2021 Tundra and wish I had bought the Tundra in 2017 instead. The EcoBoost never got the mpg it claimed, requires way more expensive maintenance (GDI services), but I had problems with the turbos and even had them go out at 153,000'ish miles requiring $4,500 to replace. I ended up selling the truck as is to the Ford dealership refusing to pay the repair.
This 6.2L V8 is a great motor and I would take it over the TT6 Tundra.
Turbo is great only on diesel engines
@@marcelo403polo2 That is true because you absolutely have to have one to get them to work well. The difference is they are cast iron and built like tanks to last forever.
My grandfather had an old Dodge Ram diesel from the 1980s that did not have a turbo. It was the slowest vehicle known to man, and people would honk at us all the time when I would drive with him, and it would make me laugh so hard when they would blow by us with their horns blaring, and my grandfather would yell out his window, "I've got it floored ya morons!"
I'm laughing right now thinking about those great memories as I type this. He passed in 2016.
Nice video. I think I would buy the gm truck also
Hell yeah being waitting for this
Perfect Video. I have that excact Flagstaff travel trailer and debating between GMC and Toyota. Thanks! Still undecided.... Lol
I ended up putting air bags to get rid of the squatting especially when you put a slight load in your bed
The Silverado also just SOUNDS so AMAZING as well. GM does a WICKED good job, with their vortec V8's. Like, wicked awesome.
Have to agree I have a 2015 high country with 6.2 has been completely reliable and returns 22 mpg on the highway. Never disappoints when you mash the go pedal with my edge tuner and borla exhaust and intake its surprisingly quick for a 5600lb truck glad I optioned the 6.2 for sure
@@jameskwak3198 Amen 🙏 🙌
I wanted to know the towing MPG you were getting between the 2
That weather looks horrible....so glad i live in sunny and warm santa Barbara California
Thanks!
Good job. No BS.
Should have towed with the hybrid tundra for a realistic "apples to apples "comparison. Not to mention the air bag rear suspension which would definitely give a smoother ride. Seems like ur handicapping the tundra. Never owned a tundra but this doesn't seem like a fair comparison to me. If I can do a little bit of research online I'm sure someone over there could have.
Friends don’t put you foot behind the ball to push the ball down off the trailer coupler. Because if the trailer moves forward instead of back you could destroy you foot.
Cool vid
Nice to see you and your dad making fun videos 👍
Have you had any issues with the tundra? I have seen videos of turbos having problems.
Not yet!
Turbo issue was narrowed down to less and 100 cases. Just made the headlines because haters want to hate it.
That is a very beautiful Silverado!
Would like to see a comparison more towards the top end of the Chevy tow rating to see if the Tundra still has more to give or if the 11,000 pound rating is legit.
GM boxed their frames over twenty years ago. My 2012 1/2-ton Sierra CC has an 1805 pound payload and is rated for 10,400 pounds. The GM product is more refined, mature and rugged. Coil spring rear suspension is not made for hauling much over 8,500 pounds.
The coil spring suspension is capable of over double that. Tow rating on a Ram 2500 Cummins with coils is 20k on the gooseneck and like 18k on the bumper .Both the ram 1500 and the tundra have rear coils and over a 12,000 pound rating.im sure you know more than there engineers and have logged more test miles than them, definitely take advice from just anyone on RUclips over the manufacturer.
@@JohnDiMartino Yeah, and they lost payload capacity by switching to coil over leaf springs. They went with form over function, softer ride which sacrificed towing prowess too. No thanks. I daily a Yukon XL, like my coils but when we haul heavy, it's the Sierra and her leaf springs that do the job better.
I still think airbags are the future.
@@Steph-lv5fg Probably, big rigs have been using them for over 20 years. As car prices continue to climb, they'll probably all have coils and airbags. Downside is maintenance and longevity.
The reality is few trucks haul trailers. Most are now mini van replacements
Well done
Did you get the off road package on the Tundra ? I have seen in Toyota forums that the new tundra rides better than the old one and it goes against everything you’re saying. I would have to imagine it’s the set up and maybe I’ll get something different.
It'd be nice to see you guys test the tundra vs the 3.0 duramax... that would be interesting
The tundra has a lot more power of course it’s going to tow better lol
@@amocat11wilson48 tundra tested in video was $10k less than the Silverado. If it has less power then that's too bad. They should've tested the hybrid tundra instead of the 2nd option v6.
As always good stuff. Love dads perspective too. Did you mention by any chance how much they weigh ? I know both pay load was around 1500
7k
I missed it, but did he talk about mpg or lp100k?
I agree with the conclusions in this video based on the 2 trucks compared. However, I also believe this: The Chevy in this video was nearly the best Chevy suspension and powertrain setup available for towing from them. The Tundra was not. However, I suspect, a Tundra Hybrid with the load leveling rear air suspension would be a better overall towing partner for travel trailers etc. Than any Chevy 6.2. I'm looking forward to the rematch.
The best setup in the chevy because it's softer? IMO the best would be the highest rating. The high country lacks here. Other trim levels can go to 13300 in the GM trucks but I bet it wouldn't ride as smooth. Id love to see a max tow comparison with the highest ratings both offer.
@@EGGINFOOLS I assumed this was a better towing suspension since it's not a z71? Maybe it is and I missed it. Powertrain wise, this truck has it all except the axle ratio I guess? If it had the right axle, this engine/trans combo would probably have the highest rating I believe. My main point was the 6.2 engine and non-off road suspension which I assumed would be better at towing. For suspension, Tundra has several choices, and this was just the base.
Silverado has a diesel duramax inline 6 that will tow 13k + and way better mpg than hybrid Toyota…
@@lorenyoder8696 Yeah the heavy duty packages have 3.73 gears and a stiffer suspension. I didn't know what you meant when you said better. I was asking a serious question but reads sarcastic. 😆. Didn't mean it that way. I don't tow over 7500 so I would take the smoother suspension setup that's still rated at 9100 over the stiffer 13.3k setup.
@@EGGINFOOLS It's all good, I either forgot or didn't know Chevy had a hd pack. So 3 suspensions for them then. Cool. I agree with you, I think most of these trucks are to stiff for how a lot of people use them. I guess I still think a Tundra hybrid with rear airbags would be pretty sweet for towing 7-9k loads like the rv in the video. Doesn't get a diesel's hwy fuel economy, but no def and more pep. Still plenty of torque as well.
How about this exact same towing comparison video between the 22 Tundra and the 21 Tundra?
Should have weight distribution hitch on for these tests....
Test loop seems incomplete to me without any highway driving where lateral stability really comes into play but I'd take the Chevy over the Tundra anyway.
By the way, the Silverdo in low on the column shifter and in sport mode, down shifts very nicely. And it override cylinder deactivation. Win Win...
Shift it into manual and leave in 5th gear (for the 6 speed) to keep it from going into V4 mode. I have a Range AFM/DOD on my 5.3 Silverado so it never goes into V4 mode.
You should do some tow tests in the high mountains of Canada since your up there it would be a very nice change for your channel
From where they live to the high mountains is about a 5 000 km drive...ask me, I know. Have done it 2X in 18 and 19.
In a higher altitude the chevrolet will be at a disadvantage higher altitude equal denser air the
I agree with you, but Ontario is pretty flat. So is Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Quebec...
@@mexking2683Wrong. Higher altitude equals less dense air not “denser air” as you said.
Really enjoy your dads commentary. I have a 2022 Tundra and love it. Tows great with a 7x14 enclosed trailer. Gets good fuel economy highway unloaded. It’s a truck and I don’t mind the stiffer ride.
I did like the previous Gen tundra more for the V8 and reliability but the frame in the new truck is way better.
I drove a 2021 Chevy 5.3 did not like it as much as my Tundra.
Do AT4 and tundra I want to know which one is better so I can start the purchase.
You're right Silverado is the way to go
Negative
Again no replacement for displacement! The Turbo also has to have more aggressive engine braking because it’s a tiny turbo V6 it lacks compression! The V8 will hold the load much better on hills guaranteed !
Only a Chevy guy would say his truck is better at going down hills. 😂😂👍👍👍
@@51AB Really ? I drive a 2021 F-350 7.3 ! Lmao 🤣
@@roadglide1142 Easy mistake. The video is about half tons. My daughter drives for a hot shot company. They have two of the first 7.3s sent to Calgary. One has over 600,000 kms and the other over 400 pulling a flat deck. No problems at all after the original spark plug wire issue.
@@51AB The 7.3 so far has been an amazing truck for me. It’s got 4.30
Gears & recently I plowed a 2’ Blizzard here in the North East with it & it simply wasn’t even phased by it . Luv it so far !
@@roadglide1142 Absolutely. The owner is a friend of ours. He said they have been the lowest maintenance most trouble free gas engine he's ever seen. He doubts they will ever wear out. Happy plowing! We have zero snow in Southern Alberta.
Best not to stand behind a vehicle when hitching up to trailer....off to side and safe in case driver has an issue.
Hey Buddy, thanks for your video. Just like all your videos very honest and detailed, great info. I am a huge Toyota fan, I love my 2014 Tundra, just like my 2005 Tacoma, and my 1983 Tacoma. Ever since the talk came out for the supposed to be a "Big World Beater" 2022 Tundra with out the a V8 option. I was not feeling it. Of course I have became biased to all the negative opinions people of the 2022. Your video had pointed out some of the sacrifices I believe Toyota did to this truck then what Toyota is known for. I think they sacrifice the well built tank for a luxury truck. And trued to hard to satisfy everyone with the MPG. All they had to do with that well built V8 was maybe put different transmission, and maybe something with the electronics to get it around 16 to 18 mpg, I would have been happy with that. Now here they are with all this waste gate turbo issues, and all the other normal gremlins with a new new upgrade. But anyway sorry for rambling on here. All in all great video, gave me some other detailed performance items to think about. It is forsure not WORLD BEATER In its class. It is a nice truck, but ya with that price tag it should be. I just hope they didn't sacrifice there RELIABILITY and DEPENDABILITY in the long haul. Thanks
My buddy is on his 3rd Tundra, current 1 is a Platinum Hybrid Max. He said it pulls his big camper like a beast, but the mpg sucks.
And that's why all these younger folks are wrong on the v6 turbo but they still don't understand
Excellent
Definitely pushing the truck further without the hitch most campers have 15% tounge weight witch is heavy especially on the tiny payload 1/2 ton trucks have 800lbs eats up most payload plus 1/2 ton trucks require wd hitch by law for any trailer over 5k pounds
Now you need to do the 6.2 chevy vs the 3.5 f150 ecoboost
A little tuner on the Yota and it will be the same power or better. Better daily mileage, more towing capacity. I'll take a Tundra.
I’m struggling to comfortably tow my 26’ Jayco with my 2016 tundra TRD. It pulls fine but over 45 mph, back roads, rough roads, just nerve wracking, hard to explain. I have a top line Equalizer hitch with 4 point sway control, and just not loving the whole experience. I’m frustrated because love my Tundra, & brand new Jayco camper that took us 4 months of shopping to find. I installed airbags, didn’t seem to help, backed off the tension on the hitch, did not help. Went to try the airbags with pressure off the hitch, and now my right air bag is leaking air, so now need to troubleshoot that.
How many times will they do the job, before go to the shope? 😅
For towing, I'm absolutely convinced the twin turbo V6 is the best way to tow in a half ton. I tow a 7500lb travel trailer cross country with an f150 3.5 Ecoboost, and have encountered multiple posted 15% grades, and ran up even steeper unmarked grades. Never reached the bottom of the throttle, and maybe 3500 RPM max? Definitely not hunting for gears or even sweating. Just asks for more and never complains. I'd imagine the Tundra has similar towing performance
It has better than ford. Theres a video where they compare em.
Great video. Just think that if your going with the biggest engine most output Chevy then you should have tested with the hybrid tundra. So it’s both top models not just one going head to head. Just not the same level truck. Add the hybrid to the tundra and the air bags in comes on the top mode and I’m sure it would be a lot better. Should have tested it against the 5.7 at this level.
Exactly my thoughts! wtf!
New Chevy interior looks great. But how can you compare "0-100" kph tests if you didn't start at 0?
Unfortunately you did not compare the gas millage between the two which would have been interesting to see.
Love what you guys do. I've owned both trucks and I still favor the tundra. The interior room and ease of functions are hands down better in the tundra. But for ride the tundra is a bit harder and not as smooth as the chevy.
Past generations or current generation?
Hell I just traded my 22 tundra for a rst and if I liked anything about new tundra it was the look n ride smoother but I felt info system was not user friendly
Btw I was gtn 15.5 mpg on hwy w tundra now I get 17.5/18 mpg w the rst 5.3 💁🏻♂️
Guys, give us more numbers. Whats MPG like when towing!?
You didnt mentioned about the tongue weight….and payload after the hitch tongue….
They did say that up until the higher part of the LT models you'll still get the lower grade interior. I think the LTZ is when you get the more modern interior.
The refreshed 2022 models start production on Feb 21st. The current 22’s are just 2021’s carried over until the refreshed models were ready. & the WT and custom trims get the old interior. The LT & up get the new interior.
@@frankiexv4533
Ok thank you. I thought it was the LTZ model that started to get the nicer interior.
Butt chatter...Butt Dino...best review yet. Thanks guy for using rough roads and windy day for the review. Great real world review.
Really should be using a platinum I force max. And having a truck with factory Avs.
Wouldn’t testing the 5.3 Chevy be a better comparison?
I really want the comparison between the tundra 3.5 vs the 2.7 or the hybrid tundra vs the 2.7 to make an apples to apples comparison
The marketing is annoying with the hybrid powertrains... They add the max output of the ICE engine and the electric motor and come up with a ridiculous torque number. The electric motors aren't doing much when the ICE is atax output.
As much as we applaud the plethora of technological advances in today's full-size pickups (such as turbocharged engines and coil springs), we have to remember that these changes will really only help these trucks when driving empty - the way the vast majority of full-size truck owners will use these vehicles. When it comes to doing actual work, tried-and-true technology like naturally aspirated OHV V8s and simple but effective leaf springs will get the job done just as well, if not better.
Exactly right. Most people buying trucks today never use them as such, which is now why you have trucks with car suspensions under them. They wanna have a "truck" so they can be macho girls with their buddies, but haven't the slightest inclining's of ever doing anything with it other than trips to Walmart and the mall. So, that's why you have trucks full of electronic nannies now, knobs to help them backup a trailer they have no business towing, and a dozen cameras and even at that they still manage to run into everything around them.
Not true. The V6’s with turbos have been refined over the years. Power and torque made down low allows for towing heavier trailers than naturally aspirated V8 motors while at the same time providing equal or better fuel mileage. Longevity of the motors is proving itself daily. If turbo engines weren’t proving themselves folks would be running away from them as they did in the 70’s when manufacturers such as GM tired them and didn’t have sufficient technology.
Many of us who have owned v8 motors have switched and are very happy with those decisions.
@@kenwelsh4189 LOL. If that's what you think. I'll keep my V8 they don't work nearly as hard as those underpowered turbo 4 and 6 cylinder engines when being tasked to do the work of a V8.
@@wildbill23c gotta love a die hard v8 guy. I was that guy too. When the ecoboost f150 came out in 2011 I too felt that way. Couldn’t believe a 6 banger could outperform a naturally aspirated v8. Got ready to upgrade my 02 f150 with 5.4 and test drove the ecoboost. Wow,performance right off the line. Heck you could smoke the tires, even in 4x4. Still, I wasn’t a believer in the baby v6 turbo. Test drove and bought a 2011 screw with 5.0. Still an awesome motor, just not the performance that I’d seen in the ecoboost. Pulled a 7500 lb loaded travel trailer. The 5.0 did well, albeit a bit sedate up to highway speeds while pulling. Fuel mileage in the newer trucks was much better than my old 5.4 and power comparisons were much better in the new truck. Fuel mileage though typical when towing sucked. Typically in the 9.0 mpg range.
In 2018 I decided to upgrade my truck again. By This time I had read much more about the ecoboost and spoken with friends who owned and lived theirs. Still I looked for another 5.0. As luck would have it I couldn’t find the truck equipped as I wanted so I again drove the ecoboost. This time I came home with it. Love the truck. Power output, especially for towing is very similar to a diesel- comes on down low. Getting up to speed towing feels like a big block v8- power power to spare. Fuel mileage, whether towing or not is about 20% better than the 5.0 ( I attribute part of this to the new 10 speed transmission). Going up hills, mountains, it rarely gets avoided 3500 rpm even on long grades. Towing fuel mileage with the same trailer sees 10.5/12 mpg.
Best em up if you want but you will see many on the road and with todays fuel prices - seeing a 4x4 getting upwards of 22 mpg is just too hard to ignore.
@@kenwelsh4189 Numbers on paper are one thing, but in the real world, the V8 will outlast a turbo V6 by a long shot when used as a truck, I'll take one with a V8 under the hood any day. A turbo V6 might sound cool on paper but in reality they're not made to work hard all the time...once in a while towing your camp trailer to the mountains for a weekend getaway yes, but not used as a daily HD towing machine, it won't hold up long.
I use my trucks to work, so I'll keep the V8s and diesels.
What model of trailer are you pulling
I heard a chattery warble in the voices when the Toyota was towing, not nearly as much with the Silverado, which goes along with the firm Tundra ride comments. I was watching the water bottle in the Tundra; wish there was one in the Chevy (for comparison).
Good eye.
I'm curious if the Toyota was on its jounce bumpers? If I overload my Ram 1500, and the rear axle is within an inch or so of the bumpers, it gets that ass and back punch feeling on rough roads.
No, neither was in danger of bottoming out.
Review and test again when Tundra Hybrid arrives. Better match.
Just an FYI, turbo engines don't rev up like naturally aspirated engines because of the boost. Ecoboost engines are like that also. They make more torque at the low end so it doesn't seem like they are working harder, but they are...just not revving more.
Ok great tow test. Thanks guys, but very briefly at the beginning of the video you showed pricing. $18,000 U.S. MORE for the Chevy. Big consideration there considering you probably won’t be towing for hours on end on chatter/washboard roads so the ride differences will be less different I would think. That’s a lot of money.
The cylinder deactivation system on the Chevy destroys cams and followers, the 10-speed trans has been known to fail at under 20k miles, and the transfer cases are failing in record numbers. Get a TRD Pro Tundra to eliminate the chatter on washboards. Current 2021 and 2022 Silverado 1500’s are rated “Far Below Average” on Consumer Reports. Yikes. Go check out new Cadillac Escalades. Even worse.
@@ronrannals1 This is nonsense. Consumer reports is nothing short of a scam if you ever look into them, and these trucks have not bean having any issues other than the DOD which is a problem at about 200k, but can be fixed with a $160 delete.
@@Steph-lv5fg these Toyota guys are f****** hilarious. Just making s*** up as they go. The 6.2 L easily overpowers any truck engine Toyota ever made and probably gets better gas mileage doing it. The 10-speed has been nothing but Rock Solid in the GM config of it. AFM has been an issue on very few of the GM trucks even though everybody wants to complain about it. The fact of the matter is the percentage of trucks that it actually affects is so small that they're not even remotely in the running for being the most unreliable brand of trucks. Anybody that's using Consumer Reports as a guide deserves what they get. All you have to do is look up a brief history of consumer reports to see that what it comes down to for them is who gives them the biggest check. Now jd power on the other hand, totally different ballgame. An interestingly enough JD Power always votes General Motors quite well. Another interesting fact, in all the years we've owned newer vehicles around here since we have a fleet of them that we constantly turnover, the only firm I've ever gotten a review from or ask to fill out a survey from was JD Power. I've never seen anything from Consumer Reports. I've lost track of the amount of JD Power one's I filled out. Geez I wonder who I'm going to believe. Consumer Reports on the other hand has been sued for a lot of their Antics, and they seem to always lose in court.
@@ashes2ashes863 So true, I couldn't agree more.
I know too many people who buy vehicles based on consumer reports only to be disappointed.
@@Steph-lv5fg my father told me once that when he first married my mother and they bought a new home to start life together, he was talked into a washer and dryer by a sales rep who used the Consumer Reports documentation to push this one set specifically. He said the dryer lasted 3 years before the element went out and the washer had an issue every month until a relative literally gave then a old one to get them by because they couldn't afford to fix it constantly. It also flooded the house once because of a well know to the manufacturer sensor issue. Consumer Reports said it was great buy though and continued to for years to come through it's newer replacements .
I’m looking at getting a tundra and a camper. This video was very helpful. Thank you!
Help me understand why the Toyota oil pressure gauge always read low compared to other brands. Seems like every video I watch of the tundra the oil pressure is well below half on the gauge.
Does it hurt your feelings?
I went with the tundra. I don’t trust GM anymore on their quality. Had a 2018 Silverado and had a stalling issue the dealer never figured out. Had a list of issues that was ongoing. My ‘23 tundra had been awsome so far.
I can put on a EQ hitch in about 5 minutes I'd like to see how it take you an hour
do the same thing again with the Tundra Hybrid
Ride harshness could be the tire selection, load rating, and air pressures. Probable more than the springs.
If anything ride harshness should be a negative with the GM. 22 inch wheels don’t leave a lot of meat between tire, wheel, and ground. I was actually surprised. Prior Toyotas have always had mushy suspension with any weight in the back so the firmer suspension or feel anyway may relate as much to the seats in the Toyota as the actual ride firmness of the suspension.
@@kenwelsh4189 Agreed i traded in my 2020 tundra 4x4 for a 22 Tundra TRD Off road and the seats in this model are not nearly as good as my other tundras they are smaller and thinner.
You may be right! But you better be prepared to trade about every 3 years or problems will eat you alive after about 75,000 miles! But the leaf springs is a big deal in towing I think Toyota messed up with the coil springs to much sag, I wanted the air lift on the coils springs but Toyota didn’t off them but on the higher trims.
Btw at 100miles. The Chevy is still in a learn mode. Its mapping the systems so the the motor is running less than optimally at this point.
I'm wondering about the impact of 22 vs 18 inches tires on the bumpy ride feeling?
I think the tire sizes are the same but the wheel size is different. Just a different aspect ratio on the tires.
I would not want a truck that is downshifting the second I let off the trottle. I like the Ford, Ram and GM programs that drop down the second you tap the brakes. Coasting is more efficient and easier on the drivetrain.
And the adage; brakes cost a lot less than transmissions. (use the brakes unless you need more, then downshift)
@@chuckgrenci6404 Yes sir 🙌 last I checked thos 10 speeds are 6k+ and on back order because of our leadership in the government. Engine braking has its place but but dropping 5 gears every time you let go of the trottle will surely shorten it life even if it has a Toyota badge on it.
@@harlandurant7014 Toyota is so I overrated 🤦♂️ it has such a fan following
Two circumstances you want engine braking. When I push the button for it because I am towing downgrade with a heavy trailer behind. Then in the same instance with most any trailer on snow covered roads (downhill.) You don't want to be on the brakes downhill in the snow. Last time I checked, TT's, including mine, are not ABS. When you hit the brakes, the trailer wheels will lock up and since it can go side to side and keep speed, it's more of a risk. Downshifting on a downgrade is good in their instance. It's not overworking anything. Especially for more inexperienced drivers that are afraid when pulling a trailer for some reason, they ride brakes often and the last thing you want or need is brake fade. Brake fade sucks a fat one.
Only in tow haul mode do they do this. For obvious reasons. Savings brakes and enabling safety going down long grades. And saving drivetrain wear when unloaded. New fords do similarly and shift rather pleasantly.
Not sure I agree this was a fair comparison - turbo V6 doesn’t compete with the 6.2L, the hybrid V6 is the one that is comparable
The EcoBoost has outperformed every 6.2 on TFL . Why wouldn't Toyota?
The v6 is the tundras only engine option which is kinda sad
@@51AB TFL does most of their testing at high elevation where having turbos is a big advantage over naturally aspirated
I think it’s great that you aren’t using a weight distribution hitch because at least with an f150 they are rated for max towing without the need for one, I would say the other manufacturers do the same.
Ford still sets a 5000 max without it. The owners manual and their towing guide are good reads.
Really should have tested the hybrid vs the 6.2
Whats the name of the app on 9:56 ?
Which state are you in?
Both trucks probably require a weight distribution hitch for a trailer of that weight. That turbo V6 reaches peak torque at lower RPM than most normally aspirated V8s. Half ton trucks have suspensions that are tuned more for comfort that towing and hauling. If you’re going to tow a lot, air bags or Timbren spring might be a good idea. If I were towing a trailer that heavy I would choose neither of those truck. I’d probably get an F250 with the 7.3 Godzilla.
I like Chevrolet, my whole family buys the brand. My only gripe is that I wouldn't pay any more for a decent tundra but I would definitely have to pay a very hefty extra just to have a truck that is slightly better than a tundra. Food for thought Chevrolet...
Why don't you guys use tow mirrors or WDH? How are the stock mirrors?
Did you not watch the entire video?
👍Nailed it
What app did you use for the speed test>?
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That TT V6 makes peak torque at 2,400rpm. That's almost diesel numbers. As opposed to that 6.2 making peak torque at 4,100rpm.
The 6.2 makes peak torque at 1,500 RPM
Great Video. Hey Steve. I have a question for your Dad and you. I have to travel to Canadian Mine sites in the near future. I am wondering whether GM's 3.0 duramax or Ram's Ecodiesel would be better for cold starts and overall reliability?
Great question Steve, we really can't say that either will be reliable as the first gen EcoDiesel had emissions problems and the Duramax is just too new. I would wager that the Duramax is going to be a little more reliable, but I'm biased as that's the truck I want. But you can't go wrong either way for these, so get the one you like more.
Inline engines always better for cold weather
Duramax! from all the comparisons ive watched the gm is a better smoother engine. Fiat has had a lot of emissions issues with the engine.
Get the Ram. Chevy/GM sucks and is garbage and can't tow worth a crap.
@@cbskwkdnslwhanznamdm2849 cylinder layout has little to do with warm or cold weather.
Should compare the trucks price to performance because the engine is very different from each other and the price difference is 10k over the tundra.
How does the 6.2 have more HP than the 6.6?
Did you forget the i6? That has a turbo. Would of been a better comparison