I grabbed one in 7.62x39 with 11" barrel... in Canaduh. Great rifle... but cz is definitely using parts they have in storage because mine came with 14x1 left hand threads on the barrel. Which annoyed the crap out of me.
Came to say the same thing. I’ve never seen a Bren 2 with irons from the factory and they may look like Troy (maybe even pronounced by them), but the sights that came with the Bren 805 are not stamped Troy.
After release of Bren 3 it's going to be near impossible to get parts for Bren 2. It's not that easy now, but imagine how it's going to be in the future
Also one of my concerns. I hope (for CZ, too) that the Bren 3 is "the end of the line" for quite some time as far as constructional differences go. Producing parts for the rifle makes no sense for third parties either, if CZ comes up with a different one every few years.
@@Mister5point56 only the lower, bolt, and charging handle are cross compatible between the 2 and 3. I just sold my Bren 2 due to the lack of parts that has already been stated. Small parts such as springs and aftermarket items are available, but finding say a bolt or spare barrel is near impossible. People haven't been able to find 7.62 barrels outside of buying a pistol since launch
They imported a very small number of Bren 2s (no M) pistols which are pretty much exact copies of the military Bren 2 but in semi auto. Also, one other difference between the 2Ms and military patterns is the lack of lightening cuts in the 2Ms receiver, but the 2s still had those.
@@ForgottenWeapons Please ask them why 1.) the cheek riser looking part on the stock is still "fake" (i.e. no cheek riser) 2.) there's no bayonet lug on civilian versions (no I won't shut up about it 😁) Edit: 3.) Civilian Bren 2/3 in .308 when?
@@danielfisher3545 There were a few others reporting the same in this comment section, last I looked. Do you know where he bought the rifle from? Might help us figure out why this doesn't seem to be a universal occurrence.
Small correction (unless they did another run of ms Carbines), the MS Carbines they put out in 2019 included no iron sights and came with a D&H steel magazine!
Couple other differences between the bren 2ms carbine and the pistols: Gas system length is significantly longer on the 16in. Its weirdly short on the 14.5 but about right for the 11in Gas port options are normal/ suppressed/off on the carbine, normal/adverse/off on the pistols.
Ill be popping in to CZ on Friday but the Bren 2 was a bit expensive for me I went with a VHS-2. Now I just need some silencer height sights for my P07.
@@billybob6784 RUclips has done pretty much everything they can to kill my motivation. I'm still getting random strikes and videos removed for things that follow their rules... But thanks for the feedback. I have a couple projects in the works that people might find interesting that i would like to share.
Love the Czech SCAR! They are among my favorites. I have the 16 inch Carbine and a 9 in pistol in 762x39. I had to special order the CZ Iron Sites for it tho. Didn't come with the carbine but they did on the pistol... Go figure
The CZ Bren 2 MS must be a pretty solid semi-automatic firearm, i'm glad you liked it Ian because you're right about the Bren 2 being a very good and cool-looking assault rifle.
Funny, how the "carbine" (16.5") has a longer barrel than the "rifles" (11" and 14.5"), just because CZ decided to use the carbine designation as it's meant for AR-15s (because of the "carbine length" barrel and gas system). 😁
Always had huge respect for czech gunsmithing. They also have made some impressive artillery over the years. It's interesting that despite being a smaller nation often under foreign domination, their weapons industry has always been flourishing.
Interesting video. I obtained a Bren 2 when CZ had their law enforcement purchase program right before they got rid of it. The weapon did not come with any type of back up sights. I was disappointed with the accuracy of this rifle compared to the other 556 rifles I own. The side folding stock also was not stable and wobbled a bunch. Found an after market shim kit that helped but was still not happy overall with this weapon at the price point. The brake is effective and the weapon is fun to shoot at CQB drills.
Point of order: the Magpul mags with the window also (at least the ones I bought do) have a coil of the spring painted bright orange, and markings along the window with round counts. Also the placement of the BUIS on this rifle is making my eye twitch.
Here in Canada we got the original handguard in both short and long guise. Since the longest 16.5" version still doesn't fit our SBR cutoff (18.5" for NR centerfire), we have various shops converting existing 8", 11", and 16" models to 18.5", which results in funny combinations of a 18.5" barrel and a pistol length gas system.
The short gas length look progressively stranger the further away you get from the 8-9" minimal barrel length. The jump to 11" and 14" should have gone back to the original length system and handguard.
Flash hider: 922R requirements Sights: Not installed on carbine models sold in US Mags: Plastic CZ mags only ship with pistol models, carbines ship with US metal mags (922R again)
Shout out to the old school, tacticool Casio. That was the go-to watch for Portuguese Army basic training through the 90's and 00's. It was even recommend by instructors. Very cool to see you wear it.
Love my Bren 2. I have 2 of them. Very much looking forward to the Bren 3 being available on the US market, though I imagine it's at least a year out if not 2.
That magazine window on the heel is a neat idea. I imagine it's easier to glance at this mag without rotating the rifle or dropping the mag to see how many rounds you're still rocking. I wonder if it's feasible to make ones that show the entire column and still maintain strength in the mag casing? Even cooler if it had, say, 5 round hash marks up the window. Just spitballing.
One other small difference between the pistol and carbine is the backstrap size for the grip. The pistols have a small size while the carbine is a medium size.
On the barrel thing: The best option would be to make barrels in all lengths and profiles but that is not all that ecenomical. The second best thing is to make just a heavy barrel so that people can reprofile it themselves. The worst thing IMO is to only make a pencil barrel because that leaves out any options for reprofiling.
The 805 brake is likely cheaper to manufacture and the curved flash hider is not required for the heavier barrel. The original reason for the curved flash hider was to remove resonance when firing. Heavier and longer barrel probably solved that problem.
Military 14.5" versions of the riflw still have a bayonet lug, while it's not even an option on the civilian market (I know some very early ones still had it). 😭
It was the underneath side of the gas block wasn't it? They should install them on everything and call them a czechaninny quick attach/detach light/laser mount.
Maryland has a ban on rifles that have two or more of Flash Hider, Folding Stock, and Grenade Launcher, so I assume the brake is just there to make it legal for MD (and maybe some other states)
Maybe it was a change, but the Bren 2 MS carbine I got about a year ago didn't have iron sights and came with a pmag. Pretty sure that's standard on the rifle.
I really like the Bren 2 MS but I never bought one because of that chunky barrel. If they offered a lighter profile barrel I would have picked one up when they were available. Hopefully the Bren 3 addresses that.
I cannot believe we have allowed the market to get to the point where it is acceptable for a gun to be sold without any sights at all, which is only done so the irons can be sold separately at a markup. This is just like how if you buy a new phone it no longer comes with a wall plug only the USB charger, or how so many games get released in unfinished condition and it can take years for them to reach their final form. We as consumers are really not demanding enough for our hard earned money.
I look at it from the opposite angle, like how bolt-action hunting rifles have been sold without sights for decades -- 99% of buyers are going to put a scope (or in this case a red dot or whatever) on it, so why bother putting factory iron sights on it when they'll just be an annoyance for the buyer to remove? I guess it makes more sense from a cost standpoint in the former case, saving the expense of cutting dovetails &c., as opposed to just throwing a set of clip-onto-the-rails sights in the box with the modern modular rifle, but ...
Many rifles are already sold without sights because there is an expectation that the buyer would put on an optical sight of their own choosing, either one they already have or one purchased for the rifle. It is most comparable to the wall charger for smart phones since many people either have a computer to plug the phone into, or would purchase a wall charger better suited for their needs which would likely exceed the capability of whatever was supplied. It’s a cost saving for the company which doesn’t practically affect enough end users to matter, so it’s an easy saving to make. The unfinished game is a less apt comparison since the end user isn’t adding things to the product through future purchase or prior possession. The equivalent to unfinished games would be doing a SIG Sauer and using their fanboys to beta test their Gen 1 products.
"We invented a new military assault rifle!" >it's an AR18 on the inside "We invented a new military assault rifle!" >it's an AR18 on the inside "we invented a new military assault rifle-"
I might be the only person not excited about the Bren 3. Bren 2 is my favorite rifle, and I have a LOT of them. One of the things I love about it is how lightweight and maneuverable it is, specifically the pistol versions with their lightweight barrels. Bren 3 with thicker heavier barrel is a no go for me . . .
It's a go for me lol. When it hits the US market I'm getting it for sure. It won't be a heavy barrel like the 16". It'll be like a medium barrel, for improved accuracy and length of life. CZ may be doing away with the pencil barrels
4:25 You completely missed a big difference of the handguard from the military configuration, or even the civilian pistol configurations; that M-lok handguard is free-floated! Odd, since you said that in the other video.
I wonder if the 7.62 x 39 BREN 2 is being used in Ukraine as well? Took a minute to get mine running good. CZ finslly came out with a 3 hole gas tube they sent me, then HB came out with their 3 hole gas tube with the chrome piston and gas spring I switched to. Pin & welded a Sure fire warcomp on the 14.5" barrel. Recoil is lighter than some of my 5.56 AR's now. Glad I stuck it out instead of getting rid of it.
There are were a few photos of short variant of Bren 2 in 7.62x39, but primary GUR (military intelligence), SOF and International Legion use 5.56 variant.
Is it possible that they set the civilian version up as sort of a designated marksman's rifle? It wouldn't be a super lightweight gun anyway since it's not polymer, so longer heavier barrel + muzzle brake + comfy adjustable stock would make sense for a DMR build. Just add a nice optic and you are pretty much good to go.
Ian, is there any specific reason you’ve ever heard as to why CZUSA will not import the 308 Bren? Until recently even the Canadians were going to get it but obviously probably not since almost everything recently got banned. I just don’t get why CZUSA cannot just bring them in as pistols worse case scenario and then sell the stocks as aftermarket pieces like that JDI fellow does with the SIG SG 55x pistols he sells.
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Mine didn't come with iron sights. I had to buy them separately.
And buying original CZ sights can be expensive.
Ian, do you know if the safety can be engaged in any status eg like an HK?
This is one of the few solid options for a semi-automatic rifle in 5.56 left in Canada after the latest gun ban. It's only like $3000 😅
Only.
Can't find NR versions anywhere
I grabbed one in 7.62x39 with 11" barrel... in Canaduh. Great rifle... but cz is definitely using parts they have in storage because mine came with 14x1 left hand threads on the barrel. Which annoyed the crap out of me.
@DarkCatfish guys buy the res version and convert them. Now you have a $4000 after that.
Buy it before you can’t. It’s only a matter of time before it’s banned.
Ian speedrunning on the BREN 2 so he can cover the BREN 3.
Saw the unveiling of that at Eurosatory. Looks lovely!
Soon enough he can get to the Bren 10
FYI -- the sights do NOT come standard on the carbine version. They were/are shipped without irons of any kind. (pistol versions do have them, though)
Came to say the same thing. I’ve never seen a Bren 2 with irons from the factory and they may look like Troy (maybe even pronounced by them), but the sights that came with the Bren 805 are not stamped Troy.
@@BigLittleKid415perhaps the laws have answers
In Europe mine did come with BUIS
After release of Bren 3 it's going to be near impossible to get parts for Bren 2. It's not that easy now, but imagine how it's going to be in the future
Also one of my concerns. I hope (for CZ, too) that the Bren 3 is "the end of the line" for quite some time as far as constructional differences go. Producing parts for the rifle makes no sense for third parties either, if CZ comes up with a different one every few years.
And I just bought one too. 🙄
Do parts not interchange??
@@Mister5point56 only the lower, bolt, and charging handle are cross compatible between the 2 and 3. I just sold my Bren 2 due to the lack of parts that has already been stated. Small parts such as springs and aftermarket items are available, but finding say a bolt or spare barrel is near impossible. People haven't been able to find 7.62 barrels outside of buying a pistol since launch
@@wolfnthemist ah is see, the have the 805 and Bren 2. I’ll be honest…I’m not optimistic that the parts situation will be any better with the Bren 3
They imported a very small number of Bren 2s (no M) pistols which are pretty much exact copies of the military Bren 2 but in semi auto. Also, one other difference between the 2Ms and military patterns is the lack of lightening cuts in the 2Ms receiver, but the 2s still had those.
Looking forward to video on Bren 3 :)
I will be at CZ in a few weeks, and it's definitely in the plans to film. :)
@@ForgottenWeapons awesome!
I need a Bren 3….
@@ForgottenWeapons Please ask them why
1.) the cheek riser looking part on the stock is still "fake" (i.e. no cheek riser)
2.) there's no bayonet lug on civilian versions (no I won't shut up about it 😁)
Edit: 3.) Civilian Bren 2/3 in .308 when?
@@ForgottenWeapons I was wondering when you would be flying over here as soon as the Bren 3 news came out :D
Bought one of these last year. Great rifle. Did not include sights or CZ magazines. Came with D&H aluminum mags.
Friend bought one few months ago that alsocame with D&H aluminum mags. Was very confusing, you're the first I've seen it also happen to
@@danielfisher3545 There were a few others reporting the same in this comment section, last I looked. Do you know where he bought the rifle from? Might help us figure out why this doesn't seem to be a universal occurrence.
Small correction (unless they did another run of ms Carbines), the MS Carbines they put out in 2019 included no iron sights and came with a D&H steel magazine!
Confirmed, though my mags are aluminum.
@@SharkVsTree IVE BEEN RIPPED OFF
Love that Bren, really enjoyed, thanks
Couple other differences between the bren 2ms carbine and the pistols:
Gas system length is significantly longer on the 16in. Its weirdly short on the 14.5 but about right for the 11in
Gas port options are normal/ suppressed/off on the carbine, normal/adverse/off on the pistols.
I love the extra effort to throw in the little extras plus its Czech🤘 I'm sold.
Ill be popping in to CZ on Friday but the Bren 2 was a bit expensive for me I went with a VHS-2. Now I just need some silencer height sights for my P07.
If James Reeves made this video: "today we pulled out a Bren 2 MS to Czech it out..."
One of my favorites.
Hey, why no videos lately? I really dig the T91 videos you did.
@@billybob6784 RUclips has done pretty much everything they can to kill my motivation. I'm still getting random strikes and videos removed for things that follow their rules... But thanks for the feedback. I have a couple projects in the works that people might find interesting that i would like to share.
Love the Czech SCAR! They are among my favorites. I have the 16 inch Carbine and a 9 in pistol in 762x39. I had to special order the CZ Iron Sites for it tho. Didn't come with the carbine but they did on the pistol... Go figure
The CZ Bren 2 MS must be a pretty solid semi-automatic firearm, i'm glad you liked it Ian because you're right about the Bren 2 being a very good and cool-looking assault rifle.
Funny, how the "carbine" (16.5") has a longer barrel than the "rifles" (11" and 14.5"), just because CZ decided to use the carbine designation as it's meant for AR-15s (because of the "carbine length" barrel and gas system). 😁
Always had huge respect for czech gunsmithing. They also have made some impressive artillery over the years. It's interesting that despite being a smaller nation often under foreign domination, their weapons industry has always been flourishing.
CZ still makes some unique designs.
My Bren 2 MS Carbine didn't come with sights. However the sights you mentioned came with my 8 inch pistol version.
Interesting video. I obtained a Bren 2 when CZ had their law enforcement purchase program right before they got rid of it. The weapon did not come with any type of back up sights. I was disappointed with the accuracy of this rifle compared to the other 556 rifles I own. The side folding stock also was not stable and wobbled a bunch. Found an after market shim kit that helped but was still not happy overall with this weapon at the price point. The brake is effective and the weapon is fun to shoot at CQB drills.
I've always wanted one of these
Love the ruger p series in background with all the high end guns
There's a Spectre on the wall as well.
@@ironwolfF1 and you see hi point when they show sights...
Point of order: the Magpul mags with the window also (at least the ones I bought do) have a coil of the spring painted bright orange, and markings along the window with round counts.
Also the placement of the BUIS on this rifle is making my eye twitch.
Here in Canada we got the original handguard in both short and long guise. Since the longest 16.5" version still doesn't fit our SBR cutoff (18.5" for NR centerfire), we have various shops converting existing 8", 11", and 16" models to 18.5", which results in funny combinations of a 18.5" barrel and a pistol length gas system.
The short gas length look progressively stranger the further away you get from the 8-9" minimal barrel length. The jump to 11" and 14" should have gone back to the original length system and handguard.
Given a choice of short-stroke piston options, I'll take the BRN-180 upper. It's sooo good.
Great video and very informative.
Bren 2 vs 3 video needed.
Informative as always, thank you
Flash hider: 922R requirements
Sights: Not installed on carbine models sold in US
Mags: Plastic CZ mags only ship with pistol models, carbines ship with US metal mags (922R again)
Interesting, thanks Ian
Can't wait to see the bren 3.
I did enjoy the video
It's my favorite modern assault rifle ever!
How much does it usually cost? I am also in Italy and love the BREN2.
@@martino7263 nuovo, tra 2900 ed i 3100 dipende dalle armerie
@@Exhumed86 caspita, me lo aspettavo sui 2400-2600. È assurdo 3000
@@martino7263 ehh già, stessa mia reazione ed è lo stesso motivo per cui non l’ho ancora preso 😓😓
I love my sbr-ed Bren 2. Some modifications, but a fun shooting gun
Also worth mentioning, tho I think you did in video for the military model, the bolt carrier has no buffer/dead weight system in it
Shout out to the old school, tacticool Casio. That was the go-to watch for Portuguese Army basic training through the 90's and 00's. It was even recommend by instructors. Very cool to see you wear it.
Love my Bren 2. I have 2 of them. Very much looking forward to the Bren 3 being available on the US market, though I imagine it's at least a year out if not 2.
That magazine window on the heel is a neat idea. I imagine it's easier to glance at this mag without rotating the rifle or dropping the mag to see how many rounds you're still rocking. I wonder if it's feasible to make ones that show the entire column and still maintain strength in the mag casing? Even cooler if it had, say, 5 round hash marks up the window.
Just spitballing.
One other small difference between the pistol and carbine is the backstrap size for the grip.
The pistols have a small size while the carbine is a medium size.
On the barrel thing:
The best option would be to make barrels in all lengths and profiles but that is not all that ecenomical.
The second best thing is to make just a heavy barrel so that people can reprofile it themselves.
The worst thing IMO is to only make a pencil barrel because that leaves out any options for reprofiling.
The 805 brake is likely cheaper to manufacture and the curved flash hider is not required for the heavier barrel.
The original reason for the curved flash hider was to remove resonance when firing. Heavier and longer barrel probably solved that problem.
I'm just siting here looking at that Ruger P series with the decocker on the back wall.
Never forget that Troy Industries is the company that hired the ATF sniper from Ruby Ridge.
very nice
The Bren 3 is already out there
Love my Bren 2
We still can't find the most interesting versions of the Bren 2 on shelves and CZ is already rolling with the Bren 3
Military 14.5" versions of the riflw still have a bayonet lug, while it's not even an option on the civilian market (I know some very early ones still had it). 😭
It was the underneath side of the gas block wasn't it? They should install them on everything and call them a czechaninny quick attach/detach light/laser mount.
MTZ-762 Aftermarket Part. The JAK (Whatever the Name gonna be…)😮
Update: MTZ-762 will NOT have an Aftermarket Part as the 5.56 caliber😕
Maybe the heavier barrel is because they assume recreational shooters in the USA shoot really a lot of ammo very fast in the desert?
CZECH REPUBLIC MENTIONED!!!!
so many pbots under me lmao
CO JSOU TO KURVA POŘÁDNÝ SILNICE?!?!
I own a CZ. Also you are an adult, it is time for you to know that the name of your country translate in my language as "the blind republic".
Cechia!
Ahoj!
The receiver is also different - it lacks some of the lightening cuts that the military pattern has.
I, as a hungarian am surprised that the bren raced against the msbs grot
Maryland has a ban on rifles that have two or more of Flash Hider, Folding Stock, and Grenade Launcher, so I assume the brake is just there to make it legal for MD (and maybe some other states)
Maybe it was a change, but the Bren 2 MS carbine I got about a year ago didn't have iron sights and came with a pmag. Pretty sure that's standard on the rifle.
CZ Stuff good stuff
I wish we could get the 308 version here in Canada
The muzzle break might also be to make it Massachusetts compliant. We can have brakes here but not flash hiders
Living the CZ life 🤘
Get well soon!
I really like the Bren 2 MS but I never bought one because of that chunky barrel. If they offered a lighter profile barrel I would have picked one up when they were available. Hopefully the Bren 3 addresses that.
really wanna get a bren 3 once its out to go with my scorpion
mmm nice xmas present.👍👍👍👍👍
Maybe including the Troy sights is for parts count reasons?
Hey same watch i also own a Casio f91w my dad gifted me when i was in 7th grade i am a graduate now and still using it to this day.
I have one, and it is my favorite rifle!
I cannot believe we have allowed the market to get to the point where it is acceptable for a gun to be sold without any sights at all, which is only done so the irons can be sold separately at a markup. This is just like how if you buy a new phone it no longer comes with a wall plug only the USB charger, or how so many games get released in unfinished condition and it can take years for them to reach their final form. We as consumers are really not demanding enough for our hard earned money.
I look at it from the opposite angle, like how bolt-action hunting rifles have been sold without sights for decades -- 99% of buyers are going to put a scope (or in this case a red dot or whatever) on it, so why bother putting factory iron sights on it when they'll just be an annoyance for the buyer to remove?
I guess it makes more sense from a cost standpoint in the former case, saving the expense of cutting dovetails &c., as opposed to just throwing a set of clip-onto-the-rails sights in the box with the modern modular rifle, but ...
Many rifles are already sold without sights because there is an expectation that the buyer would put on an optical sight of their own choosing, either one they already have or one purchased for the rifle. It is most comparable to the wall charger for smart phones since many people either have a computer to plug the phone into, or would purchase a wall charger better suited for their needs which would likely exceed the capability of whatever was supplied. It’s a cost saving for the company which doesn’t practically affect enough end users to matter, so it’s an easy saving to make.
The unfinished game is a less apt comparison since the end user isn’t adding things to the product through future purchase or prior possession. The equivalent to unfinished games would be doing a SIG Sauer and using their fanboys to beta test their Gen 1 products.
It’s not the 1980’s anymore, why would you want irons 😂
"We invented a new military assault rifle!" >it's an AR18 on the inside "We invented a new military assault rifle!" >it's an AR18 on the inside "we invented a new military assault rifle-"
Nice Casio Ian
I might be the only person not excited about the Bren 3. Bren 2 is my favorite rifle, and I have a LOT of them. One of the things I love about it is how lightweight and maneuverable it is, specifically the pistol versions with their lightweight barrels. Bren 3 with thicker heavier barrel is a no go for me . . .
It's a go for me lol. When it hits the US market I'm getting it for sure. It won't be a heavy barrel like the 16". It'll be like a medium barrel, for improved accuracy and length of life. CZ may be doing away with the pencil barrels
And thanks to the release of the Bren 3 it's now on sale everywhere in Czechia lol... so maybe a vid on the 3?
Still waiting on (and hoping for) that sale, though. 🙄
Guy: Wait It's just AR180?
Ian: Always has been -_-
There was never any "Grot trials" in Hungary. I'm not sure where did you get this from.
They do NOT come with Troy sights. Whoever added that foregrip must have also added the sights.
4:25 You completely missed a big difference of the handguard from the military configuration, or even the civilian pistol configurations; that M-lok handguard is free-floated! Odd, since you said that in the other video.
I wonder if the 7.62 x 39 BREN 2 is being used in Ukraine as well? Took a minute to get mine running good. CZ finslly came out with a 3 hole gas tube they sent me, then HB came out with their 3 hole gas tube with the chrome piston and gas spring I switched to. Pin & welded a Sure fire warcomp on the 14.5" barrel. Recoil is lighter than some of my 5.56 AR's now. Glad I stuck it out instead of getting rid of it.
There are were a few photos of short variant of Bren 2 in 7.62x39, but primary GUR (military intelligence), SOF and International Legion use 5.56 variant.
Is it possible that they set the civilian version up as sort of a designated marksman's rifle? It wouldn't be a super lightweight gun anyway since it's not polymer, so longer heavier barrel + muzzle brake + comfy adjustable stock would make sense for a DMR build. Just add a nice optic and you are pretty much good to go.
I assume the flash hider is a result of 922(r) compliance and is made in the US.
I bought a Bren 2 ms in Europe pretty recently and the handguard is of a totally different design.
On mine, the iron sights are from LWRC.
The earlier Ms carbines came without sights and with 2 aluminum gi mags
its always interesting the weird and wacky guns that end up becoming hilariously popular here in canada given our laws and restrictions
Mine also came with 2 steel magazines not a CZ polymer mag
Bren 2 content !!!!!!
I’d love to see a Daewoo K5 in a video at some point
Just wait to see the new Bren 3.
When did Ian start running ad reads that take up 10% of the video's run time?
If the Bren was manufactured by Valve, we would never get the Bren 3...
Because the second iteration would’ve already been perfected.
They would have called it Alyx
This is definitely a forgotten weapon cause they came out with the Bren 3 and have completely forgotten about the Bren 2 people lol
That hopefully it isn’t forgotten for a little while it looks like it is as good as the Ar15 and depending on price I might buy one if run into one
Ian, is there any specific reason you’ve ever heard as to why CZUSA will not import the 308 Bren? Until recently even the Canadians were going to get it but obviously probably not since almost everything recently got banned. I just don’t get why CZUSA cannot just bring them in as pistols worse case scenario and then sell the stocks as aftermarket pieces like that JDI fellow does with the SIG SG 55x pistols he sells.
I bought mine last winter and it did not come with sights or the CZ mags, only two generic steel mags.
I cant wait for the Bren 3
What is also different between military bren 2 and this is that it has magpul QD points in upper and stock
Huh? There is nothing Magpul on that gun...
I LOVE the heavier barrel
CZ has stopped sending the rifle with sights. I purchased one last year and confirmed that they have been deleted.
The 16" actually does not come with iron sights
Im curious about this vs my lockhart tactical raven 556