I had an option to hold this thing in my own hands when I visited the museum - that thing is SOOOO fricking heavy!!! Even unloaded, it's at least 15kg in mass. You can kinda see why it's development ended in a prototype phase... It's an incredibely unwieldy gun. I would even use a word "antiergonomic"😂
When you think about the tools they had, it makes sense. If you wanted something flat, you could use a planer. If you want something cylindrical, you use a lathe. If you want something else, you figure out how to do it with flats and cylinders or by hand with a file. Milling machines were the new hotness at the 1876 expo in Philly, and they only started proliferating as a general use tool in the 1890s.
@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 steampunk has more emphasis on the weird mechanical contraptions than on the steam part. Because otherwise a pot when I boil the water for my pasta is the most steampunk device ever. Watercooled MGs are just MGs that boil water with the barrel heat
YES ! I’ve been waiting forever to get a closer look at this gun. There are very few detail pictures available online, even on the museums own website. Please tell me you’ll look at the Praga II as well while you’re there. The masses yearn for it !
Three syllables, start with the "Z" sound, blend it with "broy" kind of a cross between "boy" and "Roy." The second syllable is "-ov" pronounced like "of" but with a "v" instead of an "f." The third syllable is "ka." "Zbroy-ov-ka" In Czech, a "j" is pronounced like a "y" @@mrkeogh
Wow, that is sure something. And here I thought a Maxim gun was a convoluted steampunk monstrosity, but this takes it to a whole new level. Every twist and turn of this thing left me exclaiming WTF. Especially the whole bass ackwards design of the barrel and gas system. Just an absolutely bizarre and amazing system. It's also amazing how basically every part is just gigantic and chunky, like they had to make every part out of inch thick steel. But this is one of the most perfect Forgotten Weapons guns ever. It's an obscure prototype with a mechanism unlike anything else, that failed to be a true success. I'm so glad these fine museum people let you go digging for stuff like this.
What an interesting design. It always boggles my mind when someone designs something so complicated. It's like watching a precision drill team with all of the movements of the cartridge.
Thanks for your brilliant demonstration, Ian. There is no way my mind could have ever envisioned how this gun operated without that visual explanation.
What an amazing and beautiful example of machining! The Czech engineers have always seemed to be clever and this takes it to '11'. Great video! Thanks Ian.
the fact that these types of mg designs ever worked is completely mind blowing. the action is so complex with so many moving parts that all have to work together in concert.. amazing
I would love to see them get a clear (tempered glass, perspex or similar) set of side panels for this to allow complete functionality with full visibility. Would be awesome.
This is one of those firearms whose thumbnail and description made me immediately stop scrolling and say "Wait, wtf is THAT thing?" Which is to say it's a perfect addition to yoyr channel. Cheers!
I was hoping you’d end the video with “it really is as simple as that!” Or “and toMORROW, I’ll be taking this out to the two-gun match, so stay tuned!”
It's the gun action that I was daydreaming about back in high school but then convinced myself would never actually work! It looks kind of like my conclusion was confirmed...
The Czech guns never cease to amaze me with their methods of firearms manufacture and all the "out of the box " thinking that goes into them ! But Boy do I love them , especially there commercial market guns , all mine are absolute tack drivers ! As someone else mentioned , this one is about as " Steam Punk" as they come and looks like it has some kind of heavy duty sewing machine innards . A mesh mash of several different gun designs all thrown together in a pot ,,stirred together with a couple of Czech curve balls and knuckle balls thrown into the works as well , and out comes a very interesting design! But then , that just might be the methodology they use to name there towns too now I think about it ? Close your eyes , bang on a keyboard and ,,BINGO out comes the name of the town or city ,,,Seriously, have you ever tried to pronounce one in English ,,forgetaboutit , it ain't happening ! LOL The muzzle blast on that thing must have been as bad as an "88" though , I couldn't even imagine shooting it with it being 8mm Mauser and so short !!! OMG It's So Cool to be able to see some of this old tech and oddities on display here ! Though I grew up in my Dads gun shop starting in the 50's-60's and thought I'd seen it all, but you NEVER FAIL to amaze me with what you come up with ! I would never have had the opportunity to see some of these oddities you find to put up otherwise . Thank You ,Thank You ,Thank You !!
In seventies, when Czechoslovakia exported/smuugled arms to the "national liberation movements" = Soviet backed guerrilas, the cargo was often declared as sewing machine parts :) . (OK, i dont have reliable proof, it may have been an urban legend).
Good idea to show on the prototypes in the next videos how the engineers gradually came up with the design of the ZB-26 (British BREN). Just a little glimpse into the designer's mind.😀
I was about to post asking if anyone else thinks it looks like an Ork Shoota, and find the comments section filled with people mentioning it. I feel a tremendous sense of being among my people, although I'm sure a lot of viewers are terribly confused :)
The loading and ejection system has a wild off by one quality. Pull the charging handle until a round comes out the bottom and do not worry about how many are in there or where they went...
1. That's uhh, a lot of words there sport. 2. That's a old stripped down Horus Heresy-pattern bolter that the Orks got working again. 3. VULKAN LIVES! 4. What are your feelings about the alien, the mutant, the heretic, and the virtues of honorable melee with that bolter and it's muzzle brake in the next crusade brother?
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the return of ian's 3rd and 4th hands
he shows his additional arms only in special occasions like this gun
Ian is AI GENERATED!!!!!11!!!
🤣
I had an option to hold this thing in my own hands when I visited the museum - that thing is SOOOO fricking heavy!!! Even unloaded, it's at least 15kg in mass. You can kinda see why it's development ended in a prototype phase... It's an incredibely unwieldy gun. I would even use a word "antiergonomic"😂
Im loving this trend of early beltfed machineguns basically being "box with toob"
Humans when new invention:
*Childhood Lego Moment*
When you think about the tools they had, it makes sense. If you wanted something flat, you could use a planer. If you want something cylindrical, you use a lathe. If you want something else, you figure out how to do it with flats and cylinders or by hand with a file.
Milling machines were the new hotness at the 1876 expo in Philly, and they only started proliferating as a general use tool in the 1890s.
You're ignoring a lot of complicated shit inside that box.
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 *moar tiny Legos*
So happy to see you finally grew an extra set of arms
I keep them hidden away when not needed so that I don't attract too much attention.
I thought that wasThing.
Not to bring yet more 40k nonsense to this comment section, but...Ian is now a confirmed Genestealer Hybrid.
So you can brush your beard and your hair at the same time. 😂
I need those extra hands also.
@@ComicGladiator Is that also why he never seems to age?!?
Outside: Fallout scrapyard find
Inside: Swiss clock
TODAYZ ON FORGOTIN GUBBINZ
WEEZ GOT DIS ERE GOFFZ SHOOTAH
It's a block of metal
A FINE SLUGGA IT IS
When you realise that czech word for "machine gun" (samopal) is literally "SELF-SHOOTA"...
I love heavy bolters
@@MrKOLCOO erm technically samopal means SMG, MG is "kulomet" 🤓☝
BEHOLD, We have the CZECHNOLOGY!
Much better than Kraut space magic
CZECH THIS OUT!
Underrated comment
@@lewisbenzie845 i dunno, the G11 is a clockwork bocks and that is pretty funny
Oh that made me laugh harder than it had any right to
Whoa much respect to Czechia, that trigger mechanism makes even a German envious.
"A Blow-Forward Bullpup Semi-Auto-Selectable Vickers Gun"
Not a string of words I expected to lay my eyes on
This is by far the weirdest machine gun out there IMO. Such a steampunk, Victorian, Orky, mad scientist gun and I love it.
I'd say that title would have to go to the Vickers or the Maxim gun given they actually steam.
@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 steampunk has more emphasis on the weird mechanical contraptions than on the steam part. Because otherwise a pot when I boil the water for my pasta is the most steampunk device ever.
Watercooled MGs are just MGs that boil water with the barrel heat
@marcogenovesi8570 I'm off to steampunk my dinner to al dente perfection!
@marcogenovesi8570 You have zero sense of humor.
Close enough, but the Madsen machine gun takes the cake of the weirdest operating system. You can't spell Madsen without mad.
How you even got that holy bolter?
He probably has some friends in the adeptus mechanicus
He's Gun Jesus. There is no holier gunner than he.
Dat der iz a shootah, ya grot
Literal Ork Shoota
@@thesalmonorchestra651 All it needs is an anti-aircraft sight on the front and some geometric shapes in bold colours
This weapon seems to function largely on optimism
Umm, no. I was told it runs on steampunk.
I know right, i feel any bullet that wasn't in decent condition went through it would turn into a nightmare of a jam.
Nice dakka for da boyz!
the title sounds like something you would chant to summon a famed gun designer
Looks like Ian growed another pair of hands just to rotate it for us. Such dedication to firearms history!
Ah. The ork shoota.
Great props gun for 40k's ork.
Maybe we were the orks all along. Remember the 50. Cal shoota made by cartels enforcers ? They were digganobz
More dakka
WAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!
Had exactly same thought.
YES ! I’ve been waiting forever to get a closer look at this gun. There are very few detail pictures available online, even on the museums own website.
Please tell me you’ll look at the Praga II as well while you’re there. The masses yearn for it !
I did this one and the I-23.
So cool! I've been interested in these two guns since I started looking at the zb26 history
@@ForgottenWeapons Ian, I need you to do a video on that rotary rocket launcher!
"Alright, so there's a number of things going on here." Priceless.
Holy crap this is complicated. This is a LOT of precision parts to make work.
follows the german "more complex more gooder" design phylosphy even if it's czeck
I never knew that Rueb Goldberg designed weapons for the Czechs.
But apparently not enough parts to bring success.
@@marcogenovesi8570some call Czechs "slavic Germans". Guess, there is a reason for that.
@@marcogenovesi8570 So that's why those cars are pain in the butt.
Mildly cursed but also kinda badass looking.
I love how "zbrojovka" became "Żubrówka"
I never know how to pronounce Czech words.
What's the correct way to say Česká Zbrojovka?
Three syllables, start with the "Z" sound, blend it with "broy" kind of a cross between "boy" and "Roy." The second syllable is "-ov" pronounced like "of" but with a "v" instead of an "f." The third syllable is "ka." "Zbroy-ov-ka"
In Czech, a "j" is pronounced like a "y" @@mrkeogh
@@mrkeogh the exact same way its written, česka zbrojovka
And żubrówka is brand and flavour of Polish vodka 😂
@@mrkeogh tsheskaa zbroyovka
Wow, that is sure something. And here I thought a Maxim gun was a convoluted steampunk monstrosity, but this takes it to a whole new level. Every twist and turn of this thing left me exclaiming WTF. Especially the whole bass ackwards design of the barrel and gas system. Just an absolutely bizarre and amazing system. It's also amazing how basically every part is just gigantic and chunky, like they had to make every part out of inch thick steel.
But this is one of the most perfect Forgotten Weapons guns ever. It's an obscure prototype with a mechanism unlike anything else, that failed to be a true success. I'm so glad these fine museum people let you go digging for stuff like this.
What an interesting design. It always boggles my mind when someone designs something so complicated. It's like watching a precision drill team with all of the movements of the cartridge.
Now dis is a propah shootah, boyz!
i had three strokes reading that title. what the heavens, how is such a thing possible
Thanks for your brilliant demonstration, Ian. There is no way my mind could have ever envisioned how this gun operated without that visual explanation.
Only this man with four hands can accomplish this 😂
Quite the TF2-worthy box of violence
What an amazing and beautiful example of machining! The Czech engineers have always seemed to be clever and this takes it to '11'. Great video! Thanks Ian.
I'm always amazed by the Czech's engineering. It's clever experiments like these that really push technology forward.
These early machine guns are always so perfectly weird and wacky.
That is one of the most interesting operating systems I’ve ever seen.
I can imagine mars pistols as side arms
...and Hellriegel as a personal weapon.
Oh my god, it's literally an Ork shoota.
MORE DAKKA!
@@WayStedYouMOAR DAKKA! DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA!
OI BOSS! WE FOUND SUM MOR DAKKA!
Dis a propah shoota, bois! Time for Waaaaaaaaaagh!
look like something from war hammer 40k.
this this is super cool!! it must have been crazy to fire it, with all that movement and action going on with each cycle
the fact that these types of mg designs ever worked is completely mind blowing. the action is so complex with so many moving parts that all have to work together in concert.. amazing
This is essentially a working Shoota.
The Orks were right all along.
least insane czech design
I think he should put pictures on screen of the firearms he mentions on the videos.
3:20 I audibly laughed. This is exactly how I'd imagine an Ork Shoota to work.
It looks like a big bulky gun I used to draw as a kid
Wez krumpin humies wit dis one boiz!
I've only been subscribed for about 6 months or so but absolutely love these videos.
You remember how you called the SA81 the 'Bolter'?
CZECHUS MECHANICUS PRESENTING: THIS is a HEAVY BOLTER
man this is a shoota, clearly ork tech
Holy extractor system batman!
I would love to see them get a clear (tempered glass, perspex or similar) set of side panels for this to allow complete functionality with full visibility. Would be awesome.
This is one of those firearms whose thumbnail and description made me immediately stop scrolling and say "Wait, wtf is THAT thing?"
Which is to say it's a perfect addition to yoyr channel. Cheers!
That trigger group was engineered to last a thousand years.
Thanks Ian, that was great- stay safe out there
Ian plays Orks - CONFIRMED
Nice dakka!
Nice shoota, WAAAGH!!!
I was so impressed I donated at the door, I’m sure they are wondering who put a load of US money in the box! The best military museum I’ve ever seen!!
Ian, unnecessarily complicating the pronunciation of "zbrojovka" for himself is just lovely 😁
This thing has to win an award for most satisfying sounding MG when cycling.
*ker-chlunk ker-chlunk ker-chlunk*
I was hoping you’d end the video with “it really is as simple as that!”
Or “and toMORROW, I’ll be taking this out to the two-gun match, so stay tuned!”
This Museum literally echoes History.
what a crazy rube goldberg mousetrap of a vickers/maxim gun
Resulta casi hipnótico ver sus piezas internas operando. Una auténtica obra de arte.
It's like an advent calendar of mechanical complexity
That is the cleanest machine gun i have ever seen.
I could almost hear Powerhouse playing in my head when he was demonstrating the action.
This gun is so crazy, no one even noticed Ian growing a second pair of hands.
That's his selective finger setting
It's the gun action that I was daydreaming about back in high school but then convinced myself would never actually work!
It looks kind of like my conclusion was confirmed...
I was literally doing that yesterday and was trying to figure out how to make it work
Sorry guys I never got past the blow forward part in high school 😊
Always the neatest things on this channel.
The Czech guns never cease to amaze me with their methods of firearms manufacture and all the "out of the box " thinking that goes into them ! But Boy do I love them , especially there commercial market guns , all mine are absolute tack drivers !
As someone else mentioned , this one is about as " Steam Punk" as they come and looks like it has some kind of heavy duty sewing machine innards . A mesh mash of several different gun designs all thrown together in a pot ,,stirred together with a couple of Czech curve balls and knuckle balls thrown into the works as well , and out comes a very interesting design!
But then , that just might be the methodology they use to name there towns too now I think about it ? Close your eyes , bang on a keyboard and ,,BINGO out comes the name of the town or city ,,,Seriously, have you ever tried to pronounce one in English ,,forgetaboutit , it ain't happening ! LOL
The muzzle blast on that thing must have been as bad as an "88" though , I couldn't even imagine shooting it with it being 8mm Mauser and so short !!! OMG
It's So Cool to be able to see some of this old tech and oddities on display here ! Though I grew up in my Dads gun shop starting in the 50's-60's and thought I'd seen it all, but you NEVER FAIL to amaze me with what you come up with ! I would never have had the opportunity to see some of these oddities you find to put up otherwise .
Thank You ,Thank You ,Thank You !!
In seventies, when Czechoslovakia exported/smuugled arms to the "national liberation movements" = Soviet backed guerrilas, the cargo was often declared as sewing machine parts :) . (OK, i dont have reliable proof, it may have been an urban legend).
I heard you like barrel shrouds so we added a second shroud to your shroud.
Brother Ian has bring to us the Krieg Pattern Bolter!
May the Omnisiah bless Ian with the sacred and purest oils in Terra .... and the Bolter also.
I bet it calls its own name when firing. PragaPragaPragaPragaPraga
I was just there last week! What an amazing museum!! It would take you 12 hours to see everything properly
Ok this is where they got the idea for the mouse trap game. Great video.
this looks like one of the guns in league of extraordinary gentlemen
Good idea to show on the prototypes in the next videos how the engineers gradually came up with the design of the ZB-26 (British BREN). Just a little glimpse into the designer's mind.😀
Quite the steampunky machine! I love the visual brutality of the early belt fed weapons.
Cool, I used to draw guns exactly like this as a 7 yr old kid
I was about to post asking if anyone else thinks it looks like an Ork Shoota, and find the comments section filled with people mentioning it.
I feel a tremendous sense of being among my people, although I'm sure a lot of viewers are terribly confused :)
What a marvel of engineering!
THATS A SHOOTA, BOSS
Firearm perversions is so interesting. Sometime I really love it
The loading and ejection system has a wild off by one quality. Pull the charging handle until a round comes out the bottom and do not worry about how many are in there or where they went...
"Heavy and a bit awkward"
Same buddy
40k fans gonna make 80% of this video views
"That will never work," says the sales force to the project engineer. 😜 Thanks for the detailed explanation, Ian.
At this point I don’t think we should be surprised if Gun Jesus finds actual Fallout version of guns.
We’re all thinking the same thing about this gun, aren’t we?
That’s space opera Czechnology
A fine addition to Elbonia's arsenal
To imagine that, and turn into a functional machine gun, took some serious talent.
@3:20
That third hand got me good. 🤣🤣🤣
Yet another gun that looks like one of those doodles i draw in primary school
I once heard that it's simple to over complicate a design, it's complicated to make it simple. I think maybe this is one example of that.
This thing looks straight outta Warhammer 40k
A gun so bulky and heavy, Ian grew a 2nd pair of hands to operate it.
Another perfect weapon for future Fallout sequel!
I love this gun, it's perfect
Ian pronounces "zbrojovka" as "Zubrowka", which is a brand of Polish vodka.
The most 40k thing in this channel so far..
Serial number: 2. haha that got me.
The Czechs 🤝KelTec
Designing weird ass guns
That's beautiful.
All hands on deck for this one
1. That's uhh, a lot of words there sport.
2. That's a old stripped down Horus Heresy-pattern bolter that the Orks got working again.
3. VULKAN LIVES!
4. What are your feelings about the alien, the mutant, the heretic, and the virtues of honorable melee with that bolter and it's muzzle brake in the next crusade brother?